Nataniël - The Hong Kong Kiss
Moira de Swardt
on I was hooked. I read his books and found that they were indeed
as funny and as touching as his shows. I am generally not a
dedicated fan of popular music, English or Afrikaans, and the
Afrikaans stuff tends to fall way under my radar detection leaving
me blissfully unaware of it. Not that Nataniël's shows are
Afrikaans. They have a small, very small, Afrikaans content, mostly
where he talks about his family, such as anecdotes about his
grandmother, but they are intensely and authentically South African.
This latest show, "The Hong Kong Kiss", at The Theatre of Marcellus
at Emperor's Palace is Nataniël's celebration of twenty years in
show business. During that time there have been fifty two stage
productions, fifteen CDs, the latest of which is "I wear white", ten
books and a range of lifestyle products called "Kaalkop" which can
be found at his shop in the Southdowns Shopping Centre in Irene,
Pretoria, and, for your shopping convenience, at the theatres where
he performs.
This particular show describes a visit made by Nataniël to Hong Kong
in search of perfect bowls for his shop. The anecdotes describe the
trip from the moment he boards the plane to his return and the
lessons learned from the experience. Nataniël is a talented
entertainer, and his stories are, in my opinion, the best part of
his show. The music is pleasant, and the lyrics are by Nataniël
himself, giving the show a cohesive mood and character.
He has both supporting vocalists, Robert Finlayson, Lydian Vom
Hagen, Wess-Lee and Lulu Dikana and a separate supporting band,
Tonia Selley (vocals and percussion), Charl du Plessis (keyboard and
vocals), Corne Dannhauser (bass and vocals), Juan Oosthuizen
(guitar), Vincenzo Henrico (drums).
Existing fans will find this show more of the genre they enjoy, and
new fans will introduced to the amusing and personal vulnerable
style of performing which Nataniël has perfected.
Highly recommended.
Skokkie
"Moira de Swardt" <moir...@wol.co.za> wrote in message
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Sorry about thereat, but his sickly sweet simpering camp sentimentality
brings out the homophobe in me!
This stuff is for specialist focus groups only !
Moira de Swardt
"Skokkie" <gle...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> "Moira de Swardt" <moir...@wol.co.za> wrote in message
> > Highly recommended.
> Sorry about thereat, but his sickly sweet simpering camp
sentimentality
> brings out the homophobe in me!
What sort of "sentimentality" does he express which brings out the
homophobe in you? Perhaps an example would help me determine what
you mean. For example, in this show, the only sentimental bits
related to the advice his grandmother gave him, hardly the stuff of
which homophobia is forged.
Other works I've seen of his don't make much of homosexuality, and
indeed this one hardly does. The kiss from which the production
draws its title is a homosexual kiss, but that is the only reference
to homosexuality in the entire work. The funny bits related to him
being addressed as "Madam", being mistaken for a circus performer,
having less fun than a dead person, and paying a fortune for a bowl
and wondering how to sell it to South Africans.
> This stuff is for specialist focus groups only !
Ah well, Nataniël makes a reasonably good living from these
specialist focus groups, by which I presume you mean people who are
not homophobic?
--
Moira de Swardt posting from Johannesburg, South Africa
Remove the dot in my address to find me at home.
Bodie
> I'm a Nataniël fan. I first heard him perform in 1991 and from then
> on I was hooked.
No accounting for taste, innit?
> I read his books and found that they were indeed
> as funny and as touching as his shows. I am generally not a
> dedicated fan of popular music, English or Afrikaans, and the
> Afrikaans stuff tends to fall way under my radar detection leaving
> me blissfully unaware of it. Not that Nataniël's shows are
> Afrikaans. They have a small, very small, Afrikaans content, mostly
> where he talks about his family, such as anecdotes about his
> grandmother, but they are intensely and authentically South African.
Nataniel is a raging homo, and his shows only make it more obvious.
What I don't mind, even if he does simper along just a tad, are his cooking
segments.
Only problem I have with those is that he pushes Clover products and these
carry that stupid fucking islamofascist logo.. *halaal*
Then again, difficult to find any products that do not have this fucking
logo .. silent infiltration ... typical ragheads.
I would NOT recommend any of Nataniels shows to anybody.
Bodie ...
--
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."
("General Introduction to Psychoanalysis," S. Freud)
Skokkie
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> "Skokkie" <gle...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > "Moira de Swardt" <moir...@wol.co.za> wrote in message
>
> > > Highly recommended.
>
> > Sorry about thereat, but his sickly sweet simpering camp
> sentimentality
> > brings out the homophobe in me!
>
> What sort of "sentimentality" does he express which brings out the
> homophobe in you? Perhaps an example would help me determine what
> you mean.
Moira, I am sure that Nataniel is a nice guy and he is possibly talented,
it's just that I am not wired that way and cannot identify with his music. I
cannot cite you examples as I have not really taken the time to pursue his
work. I cannot comment on his calalogue, all I know is that he comes on the
TV every now and again, I find him to be a simpering twit so I change
channels. When he is in the You magazine I go straight to the blockwords. It
is not that I dislike him or his stuff, I just do not identify with it.
I often think that he must be very close to one of those gay guys in control
who used to inhabit the SABC before it became the SANCBC. I used to get
acting work there when I was younger (Did a few episodes on Senior Smith
etc.) It all came to an end when I was eating lunch one day and I felt a
hand on my backside and instinctively jabbed it with a fork. The gentleman
concerned declared me as a persona non gratia and I went back to my day job.
This gave me the distinct opinion that there was a solid corps in the SABC
that would not only give preference to homos, but exclusivity and even push
them when thay would not make it where all things were even.
For example, in this show, the only sentimental bits
> related to the advice his grandmother gave him, hardly the stuff of
> which homophobia is forged.
I do not think anybody thinks that Homophobia is "forged", it just sorta
comes naturally. Most Gai commentators seem to think that straight people
need education to deliver them from a natural tendency. "Forged" is serious
spindoctor language.
>
> Other works I've seen of his don't make much of homosexuality, and
> indeed this one hardly does. The kiss from which the production
> draws its title is a homosexual kiss, but that is the only reference
> to homosexuality in the entire work.
Homosexual kiss? Ug that is offputting!
The funny bits related to him
> being addressed as "Madam", being mistaken for a circus performer,
> having less fun than a dead person, and paying a fortune for a bowl
> and wondering how to sell it to South Africans.
>
> > This stuff is for specialist focus groups only !
>
> Ah well, Nataniël makes a reasonably good living from these
> specialist focus groups, by which I presume you mean people who are
> not homophobic?
Yeah, People who are Heterophobic!
jack mehoff
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>> "Skokkie" <gle...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> > "Moira de Swardt" <moir...@wol.co.za> wrote in message
>>
>> > > Highly recommended.
>>
>> > Sorry about thereat, but his sickly sweet simpering camp
>> sentimentality
>> > brings out the homophobe in me!
>>
>> What sort of "sentimentality" does he express which brings out the
>> homophobe in you? Perhaps an example would help me determine what
>> you mean.
>
> Moira, I am sure that Nataniel is a nice guy and he is possibly talented,
> it's just that I am not wired that way and cannot identify with his
But you guys could talk for hours on end about your sex lives. Swap notes
and shit .
jack mehoff
The "Polka" advert ? That was you ?
jack mehoff
"Bodie" <bo...@home.net> wrote in message
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> "Moira de Swardt" <moir...@wol.co.za> wrote in message
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>> I'm a Nataniël fan. I first heard him perform in 1991 and from then
>> on I was hooked.
>
>
> No accounting for taste, innit?
>
>> I read his books and found that they were indeed
>> as funny and as touching as his shows. I am generally not a
>> dedicated fan of popular music, English or Afrikaans, and the
>> Afrikaans stuff tends to fall way under my radar detection leaving
>> me blissfully unaware of it. Not that Nataniël's shows are
>> Afrikaans. They have a small, very small, Afrikaans content, mostly
>> where he talks about his family, such as anecdotes about his
>> grandmother, but they are intensely and authentically South African.
>
> Nataniel is a raging homo, and his shows only make it more obvious.
>
> What I don't mind, even if he does simper along just a tad, are his
> cooking
> segments.
Yup. Youre a homo.
>
> Only problem I have with those is that he pushes Clover products and these
> carry that stupid fucking islamofascist logo.. *halaal*
You just pissed, cos he's not pushing it in yoour crack.
>
> Then again, difficult to find any products that do not have this fucking
> logo .. silent infiltration ... typical ragheads.
>
>
>
> I would NOT recommend any of Nataniels shows to anybody.
But you just love his line of kinky lingerie.
Skokkie
"jack mehoff" <jackme...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Dismissed with contempt!
Skokkie
Joke Mehoff's usual puerile and obsessive garbage
Dismissed with contempt!
What a sad git!
Skokkie
Joke Mehoff's usual puerile and obsessive garbage
jack mehoff
Oooooh I seem to have hit a nerve .
Anonymous
Skokkie
Do not flatter yourself !
(Although I am a bit annoyed that you are trashing Moira's thread with your
puerile kak.)
Joke Meihoff , You are a sad git
Get Help!
Moira de Swardt
"Skokkie" <gle...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> "Moira de Swardt" <moir...@wol.co.za> wrote in message
> > "Skokkie" <gle...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > Sorry about thereat, but his sickly sweet simpering camp
> > sentimentality
> > > brings out the homophobe in me!
> > > This stuff is for specialist focus groups only !
> > Ah well, Nataniël makes a reasonably good living from these
> > specialist focus groups, by which I presume you mean people who
are
> > not homophobic?
> Yeah, People who are Heterophobic!
There are probably very few people who are heterophobic. It would
be surprising if any one, psychologists included, could make a
living, never mind a good one, from them.
People who are not homophobic normal. It is homophobia which is the
abberation.
Skokkie
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> "Skokkie" <gle...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > "Moira de Swardt" <moir...@wol.co.za> wrote in message
> > > "Skokkie" <gle...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > Sorry about thereat, but his sickly sweet simpering camp
> > > sentimentality
> > > > brings out the homophobe in me!
>
> > > > This stuff is for specialist focus groups only !
>
> > > Ah well, Nataniël makes a reasonably good living from these
> > > specialist focus groups, by which I presume you mean people who
> are
> > > not homophobic?
>
> > Yeah, People who are Heterophobic!
>
> There are probably very few people who are heterophobic. It would
> be surprising if any one, psychologists included, could make a
> living, never mind a good one, from them.
>
> People who are not homophobic normal. It is homophobia which is the
> abberation.
I disagree with you, My observation is that there are many who are
Heterophobic.
I probably would not describe myself as an outright homo hater, but maybe -
a Homoskeptic!
jack mehoff
Sorry Moira, it was not intenede for your eyes.
Skokkie
Don't bother Jack - she ducked out when your arseholery started. She's funny
like that!
JanPlank Moerdyk
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Jack, ... I mean ...Fack Theeeemoff
No, moff, the doctor (witchdoctor) did hit a few nerves and
braincells
when he hit you on your backside on that day he pulled you from yur
ugly mutha. Sad. He should have slapped yur mutha too for producing
such a beeeeeg pile o' braindamaged pigsheeeeet.
To you and your native family and your ancestors :
"Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you and fuck you... who's next?"...
jack mehoff
"JanPlank Moerdyk"
Tsk tsk another silly dutchmen. No wonder you guys lost the country.
Dont worry, there always be work for you mom and sisters.
You on the other hand will have to keep standing at the robot with your
cardboard sign.
( Scares me actually, I tell the kids to lock the doors in case we get a
wiff of your BO.)
My kids say to me "Daddy, did those people really run the country long,
long, long ago ?"
Kids! They say the darndest things. Your son will probably work for my son
one day. Start teaching him to tell the difference between a weed and a fern
otherwise the master could get the "moerin".
JanPlank Moerdyk
Crackwhore-Boff
Your above hazy crack-dream refers
Daddy-boff and his genetic-depleted charcoal kiddies were
sucking crack again after dropping mommy off - downtown
on the cheapest street corner, he? He he he...
That's where these typical African kaleidoscope-dreams
and Boffy's dizzy bushmen-dance symptoms come from
offcourse. Did you dance around the fire too many times
again? Tell another lie and say "no". He he he...
No wonder your native sub-hominid brothers are 'running'
your beloved steeenking cunt-try Maverick-Mugabe-Style
right into the ground where it belongs. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!!!!!
Keep on dreaming, assholic baffy boy...
Bodie
Nope .. leave that for the Wanker-Boi gay types like you and your ilk.
Swapping shyte I mean.
Bodie ....
jackmehoff
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Got you real angry, didnt I ? Hit a nerve, didnt I ?
jackmehoff
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Is it tic, sugars or straight meth you smoking ? that shit will kill you.
Skokkie
And then we get Joke Mehoff and his fantasies, and he takes JanPlank's
Moronic expression down to even lower levels!
fire_
Nataniel is the 1990 , weak , identify crisis, confused Afrikaner
looking for a place in the world .
I am hoping that the De La Rey Generation will be the Self Assured,
Affirmative Generation, with the gut's for good brawl.
We will see what happens but I have a lot of hope
jackmehoff
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Don yor khakis. We's gonna have another Save Lucas Mangope episode.
AWGB got fucked up good.
fire_
> "fire_" <vuurvree...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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No I am just a silly little Dutchmen with a strong nationalistic
streak. What are you ?
Bodie
--
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."
("General Introduction to Psychoanalysis," S. Freud)
"Bodie" <bo...@home.net> wrote in message news:...
Skokkie
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> No I am just a silly little Dutchmen with a strong nationalistic
> streak. What are you ?
>
Just so's you get something closer to the truth, I will answer that.
Jack is a puerile white american resident whose identity crisis causes
himself to project as an angry and powerful black man resident in
South Africa. He is very good at researching Africa on the search
engines (Does not have a life) but does not have the tactile day to
day experience of an African, and this gives his responses a clearly
contrived look. He covers this up by spewing forth low grade trollery
which is sauturated with an obsession with anal sex and masturbation
(See his nick name)
His practical knowlege of of Africa is so slight that he has not
cottoned onto the potential of my sock puppet's nickname to generate
derision
JanPlank Moerdyk
Schizo-demented, genetic retarded, ass-raped, over-jacked-off
baffy boy again angrily scolded himself when he popped that
dirty needle into his frail little arm :
"Got you real angry, didnt I ? Hit a nerve, didnt I ?"
...and then he suddelly turns around and asks himself :
"Is it tic, sugars or straight meth you smoking ? that shit
will kill you."
Yes, may it kill you soon.
You are way beyond yourself, jack-ass...
Do help yourself to a speedy euthanasia!
jack mehoff
One of the guys who won ?
jack mehoff
Aaah, recognition, at last.
at researching Africa on the search
> engines (Does not have a life) but does not have the tactile day to
> day experience of an African,
Oh, sorry my baas. We are not all "dumb pekkies." It must kill you.
and this gives his responses a clearly
> contrived look. He covers this up by spewing forth low grade trollery
> which is sauturated with an obsession with anal sex and masturbation
> (See his nick name)
You must meet my cousin. Haywood Jablomie.
> His practical knowlege of of Africa is so slight that he has not
> cottoned onto the potential of my sock puppet's nickname to generate
> derision
I am sorry, but idiot humour doesnt interest me.
fire_
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apart and the BBC insinuating gen .............................
fire_
> "Skokkie" <glen...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Mbkei said :""deeply embedded stereotype that Africans are less than
human, or, at
least, genetically inferior," the ANC said.""
Dave
fire
>> One of the guys who won ?
Don't miss look the question mark.
jack mehoff
Lame....so lame.
jack mehoff
Yup, things are going just swimmingly for me thank you.
jack mehoff
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> fire
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>>> One of the guys who won ?
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> Don't miss look the question mark.
>
Is that english you speak do ?
jack mehoff
...and Dutchmen tend to kill their families in the most sadistic ways before
blowing their brains out.
Dave
waarom verdra julle engelse die moffie?
jack mehoff
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Sorry, I know Afrikaans but not the retarded dialect one.
Bodie
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Want dit is soo lekker om hom rond te fok.
Hy is so fokken onnosel dat hy nog steeds dink hy kan mense bluff dat hy in
Suid Afrika woonsaam is.
Hy is, soos julle se, n' Dom etter.
Bodie (that was P.T.but I tried) ;-)
Dave
So, hy is die Pieter Dirk Uys van julle rolprent.
Maar hy neuk die storie op
Lekker aand vir jou, Bodie
Dave
Skokkie
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"Yup, things are going just swimmingly for me thank you." -
He said, quoting one of Ann Coulter's favourite expressions!
jack mehoff
How clever of you skokkie.
jack mehoff
"Dave" <d...@d.durbs> wrote in message
Lekker aand vir jou, Bodie ? God you guys are so gay. Like Brokeback
mountain with Veldskoens.
Skokkie
> "Skokkie" <glen...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Jolly Joke Mehoff the anal fetishist and his fantasies of Ann Coulter
with a strap on.
Yes things must be going swimmingly for you.