PRESIDENT EGAL GOES TO ETHIOPIA FOR TALKS
Osman Ahmed
morning left Hargeisa airport on an official visit for Ethiopia at the
invitation of Premier Meles Zenawi.
The President was accompanied by ministers of finance, trade, justice
and the Governor of the Central Bank of Somaliland. The president and
his delegation were picked up from Hargeisa from by an Ethiopian
Airlines aircraft . Ethiopian and Somaliland leaders will meet tomorrow
to discuss bilateral issues. President Egal and members of his
delegation travelled to Ethiopia on new Somaliland passports.
Another Somaliland delegation led by the Somaliland Foreign Minister
with two other ministers is already in Ethiopia.
omar...@my-deja.com
Whatever the gangs in Mogadishu and their hostages "new parliament" do,
Somaliland is pursing what it sees as its interest and it is more so
when alternatives for peaceful co-existance with daarood and hawiye is
noll!! I understand their dilemma! It is indeed a regretable situation!
It hurts me see the suffering of my people because of their division
and hatred of one another!!! I cannot longer wait the day when we will
rise from the ashes and confront collectively the greedy clanist among
us!
Omaryare
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Before you buy.
ahme...@my-deja.com
omar...@my-deja.com wrote:
> Dear SOMALIANS!!
> Whatever the gangs in Mogadishu and their hostages "new parliament"
do,
> Somaliland is pursing what it sees as its interest and it is more so
> when alternatives for peaceful co-existance with daarood and hawiye is
> noll!! I understand their dilemma! It is indeed a regretable
situation!
> It hurts me see the suffering of my people because of their division
> and hatred of one another!!! I cannot longer wait the day when we will
> rise from the ashes and confront collectively the greedy clanist among
> us!
>
> Omaryare
Dear Somalilanders,
Since i am one of few somalis who got sick of somaliland, puntland,
jubaland and whatever xland that anyone can think of politics, would i
be wrong to suggest if you have your own newsgroup where you can
exchange your the ideas and the news of your lovely country?.
The thing you somalilanders, or any other xlanders for that matter,
should understand is here is for somalis who believe in only one
somalia irrespective which part of somalia they came from. It is where
for those of us who believe in somalism can exchange their social-
politics issues.
In my opinion, if any particlur of somalis who reject the idea of one
somalia should give up the previladge of participating SCS. After all,
they aren't different from Djabutians. The reason they aren't different
from Djabutians is although we all know Djabuti was part of somalia,
its people decided not to join somalia which was their will. We somalis
understand that and respect. And i guess same applies to any part of
somalia whose people decide to secede.
However, i don't see any Djabutian spaming Djabuti-related articles
here on SCS. They do have their newsgroups i guess. Not do i see any so-
called Xlanders doing the same.
Thus, I am asking you somalilanders please have your own newsgroup and
leave us the hell alone. I get sick of your attention-seeking attitute.
And I doubt if any one-somalia-believer, like me, has any interest in
somaliland related-news. take your blah blah to somaliland websites.
Will you?!.
Ahmed Barre
and stop spamming> In article <3A0AF94B...@home.com>,
omar...@my-deja.com
ahme...@my-deja.com wrote:
Dear Somalian!
I must admit you are a democrat! and congratulations for that! But I
suspect or read between the lines a sense of anger and rage, not to
mention the controvercy in your reply! How can you accept all ethnic
Somali clans and reject those who were part and parcel of the former
republic! We, I mean those who found their newly fought freedom are not
going anywhere but staying here and excercising their right and telling
the misery you inflicted on us!!! How many years we were forced to
listen you rubbish homogenicity, while carrying out homocide!!! We will
expose you to the world - nothing more, nothing less!!!
carr...@my-deja.com
omar...@my-deja.com wrote:
> In article <8ujvso$924$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> ahme...@my-deja.com wrote:
Dear Omaryare,
I have to agree with Mr. Ahamed barre. He has a valid point when he
says this nwsgrp belongs exclusively to Somalis... and we all know
what that means. It is somalia without suffix, namely(Land), or clan
label such as Ogadenia or another cooked up name such as Puntland or
Djibouti for that matter. the topics and issue discussed here should
relate somehow to that of Somali Republic. Moreover, it really dosen't
matter if one is negative as long it is pertaining to Somalia.
Having said that, I personally don't have anything against the "land"
entities... I will be the first to admit the atrocities carried
aganist people of Hargeisa. I will be the first to admit the massacre
of Majerteen by afweyne. And the suffering which has been inflicted
upon Digil and Mirifleh......
No one is denying the sad chapter of Somali history. What, I and many
others find appalling though is the endless self-promotion of emirates.
Is it to much to ask to take Somaliland issues to Somaliland nwsgp,
that of Puntland to Putland site, Ogadeni issues to Ogadeen forum and
so on.
It is only fair to remind that you cann't have both ways. I mean to
divorce the Somaliness on one level and embrace it when appropriate on
another.( I am talking about the system, not the ethnicity. Ethnic
wise, all of us are Somalis).
Believe me, we, pro Somali unity, are having enough problems as it is,
without the added headache of emirates origin. We have warlords on top
of warlords. We have remanents of Afweyne masquerading as legitimate
authority. More power to you if you are better off. Just leave us
alone. Seriously, I don't give a damn about Egals itinerary. It dosn't
concern me. Tell me how Abdiqasim is collecting donation from Muslim
and Arab world on my behalf, in all the while trying to enrich his Ayr
family and the Hadhaagii Afweyne.
Nabaday
carrabay.
>
> Dear Somalian!
> I must admit you are a democrat! and congratulations for that! But I
> suspect or read between the lines a sense of anger and rage, not to
> mention the controvercy in your reply! How can you accept all ethnic
> Somali clans and reject those who were part and parcel of the former
> republic! We, I mean those who found their newly fought freedom are
mohamed
Dear Ahmed
Much I enjoy your outspoken attitude, and how fearlessly you speak your
mind, however,
You made a big mistakes here sir.
>Since i am one of few somalis who got sick? of somaliland? puntland?
Why you are comparing Somaliland to Puntland? Despite the fact they are
similar of some ways.
Puntland and Somaliland have two fundamental differences and opposing
orientations, Somaliland
is secessionist oriented while Puntland is federalist "
Puntland never ever claimed any kind of secession from the rest of the
country. It is been created after they tired the to make peace deal
with warlords who want “to borrow Marqans wisdom to maintain the status
quo due their vested interest.
These naturally law-abiding people remind peace and prosperity while
other parts of the country were killing each other.
Now it’s aim has been achieved and it was to get a central government.
Cammii ma in ay is cunaan baad rabtey sida Xamar oo ay boqol Yalaxow
iyo Caato ah yeeshaan.
Kala dambayni jirin.
Ahmed give the credit where is due..
So dear Ahmed I wonder why you are getting sick of them (Puntland).
Is it because they are different clan than yours? I hope it is not, but
I think it is.
Any way I want your honest answer.
Finally dear Ahmed I believe this Forum belongs to neither the
government we both you and I unconditionally support. Nor the “Somali
republic” but all Somalis whether they are from Ogaden, NFD, Djibouti
or Somali Canadians like you I guess. As long they are Somalis.
mohamed
ahme...@my-deja.com wrote:
> In article <8ugjbe$lng$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
Dear Ahmed
Much I enjoy your outspoken attitude, and how fearlessly you speak your
mind, however,
You made a big mistakes here sir.
>Since i am one of few somalis who got sick? of somaliland? puntland?
Why you are comparing Somaliland to Puntland? Despite the fact they are
similar of some ways.
Puntland and Somaliland have two fundamental differences and opposing
orientations, Somaliland
is secessionist oriented while Puntland is federalist "
Puntland never ever claimed any kind of secession from the rest of the
country. It is been created after they tired the to make peace deal
with warlords who want “to borrow Marqans wisdom to maintain the status
quo due their invested interest.
These naturally law-abiding people remind peace and prosperity while
other parts of the country were killing each other.
Now it’s aim has been achieved and it was to get a central government.
Cammii ma inay is cunaan baad rabtey sida Xamar oo ay boqol Yalaxow iyo
Caato ah yeeshaan.
Kala dambayni jirin.
So dear Ahmed I wonder why you are getting sick of them (Puntland).
Is it because they are different clan than yours? I hope it is not, but
I think it is.
Any way I want your honest answer.
Finally dear Ahmed I believe this Forum belongs to neither the
government we both you and I unconditionally support. Nor the “Somali
republic” but all Somalis whether they are from Ogaden, NFD, Djibouti
or Somali Canadians like you I guess. As long they are Somalis.
mohamed
> > Dear SOMALIANS!!
> > Whatever the gangs in Mogadishu and their hostages "new parliament"
> do,
> > Somaliland is pursing what it sees as its interest and it is more so
> > when alternatives for peaceful co-existance with daarood and hawiye
is
> > noll!! I understand their dilemma! It is indeed a regretable
> situation!
> > It hurts me see the suffering of my people because of their division
> > and hatred of one another!!! I cannot longer wait the day when we
will
> > rise from the ashes and confront collectively the greedy clanist
among
> > us!
> >
> > Omaryare
>
> Dear Somalilanders,
>
omar...@my-deja.com
mohamed <moha...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> In article <8ujvso$924$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> ahme...@my-deja.com wrote:
> > In article <8ugjbe$lng$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
>
Somalians
>"Finally dear Ahmed I believe this Forum belongs to neither the
>government we both you and I unconditionally support. Nor the “Somali
>republic” but all Somalis whether they are from Ogaden, NFD, Djibouti
>or Somali Canadians like you I guess. As long they are Somalis."
The above statement from Mohamed just indicates the confussion
between "clan loyalty" and "territorial loyalty" i.e. ethnicity versus
nationality. I need further clarification from the group before I
proceed my point!
Omaryare
ahme...@my-deja.com
mohamed <moha...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> In article <8ujvso$924$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
Dear Mohamed!
"bal dayaay waakaas mohamed dhaafay hadalkiiye"
>You made a big mistakes here sir. Why you are comparing Somaliland to
>Puntland? Despite the fact they are similar of some ways.
My whole point was to tell somalilander to stop dumping on somaliland
related articles here on SCS and take their articles to somaliland
websites instead.
However, it seems to me that i accidently stepped on your clan's
political land mine--puntland. Yes, you right,in the begining puntland
was federalist. But i don't know if it is now.
Rest assured Dear mohamed, i have nothing against puntland althought i
don't like their current political stand when it comes to new somali
governmet.
Again, i didn't mean to compare puntland to somaliland nor any other
xland. that was not my point. I hope that helps.
Ahmed Barre
mohamed
omar...@my-deja.com wrote:
> In article <8uqe82$5gr$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> mohamed <moha...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> > ahme...@my-deja.com wrote:
> > > In article <8ugjbe$lng$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> >
>
>
> >"Finally dear Ahmed I believe this Forum belongs to neither the
> >government we both you and I unconditionally support. Nor the
“Somali
> >republic” but all Somalis whether they are from Ogaden, NFD, Djibouti
> >or Somali Canadians like you I guess. As long they are Somalis."
>
> between "clan loyalty" and "territorial loyalty" i.e. ethnicity versus
> nationality. I need further clarification from the group before I
> proceed my point!
>
> Omaryare
Dear Omaryare.
Honestly, I did not understand what you want to be clarified.
Any way if I put my words into another way. Bro. What I intent was,
just to disagree with Ahmed that this newsgroup belongs to certain
group, but all Somalis. That is all.
Mohamed s Abdikarim
Dufan505904241
mohamed
ahme...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> However, it seems to me that i accidently stepped on your clan's
> political land mine--puntland. Yes, you right,in the begining puntland
> was federalist. But i don't know if it is now.
>
> Rest assured Dear mohamed, i have nothing against puntland althought i
> don't like their current political stand when it comes to new somali
> governmet.
>
> Again, i didn't mean to compare puntland to somaliland nor any other
> xland. that was not my point. I hope that helps.
>
Mudane Axmed.
kalfadhigii Carta ayaa dawlad goboleedka Puntland doonaysay in ay iyadu
matasho goboladaas magaca ku bahoobay,cidda shirka tegaysa waxa lala
tegayo, iyo sida loo tagayaoba ay iyadu lahaato go'aankeeda. hase
yeeshee Axmedow dawladda Djibouti arrinkaa way ka madax adaygtay
waxayna Cabdillaahi iyo colkiisiiba kal meekhaan dhigatay dagaal
oogayaasha,aan innaba wax tixgelin ah ku lahayn kal fadhiga.cidna aanay
iyagu mathalin ee ay iskood uga qayb galaan.qodobadii ay la sacdeenna
la diiday.
Taas ayaa waxay kaliftay in Cabdillaahi iyo dawladdiisii ka baxaan
shirka.halkaas waxaa si fiican uga faa'iidaystay dadkii mucaaradka ku
ahaa iyo kuwii xurguftu ka dhexaysay,iyagoo dareensanaa in dadweynaha
reer puntland aanay ku raacayn cabdillaahi iyo xukuumaddiisa in laga
baxo shirka nabadda.dhibaato kasta ha ugu sugnaatee.
waxay ogayeen haddii maanta shirkaasi guuldaarraasto in aan mid kale la
filayn,cid dambe oo dhexdhaxaadin isugu dayaysaana jiri doonin.sidaa
daraadeed ay waajib tahay ka qayb galka shirka iyo in wax kastaba laga
tanaasulo.si qaranka looga badbaadiyo gacan shisheeye.iyo in aan
waddada si fiican loogu xaadhin kala goynta waddanka,waayo waxaa la
qiyaasi karaa in aan toban sano kabadan dad dadkale loo hayn karin.
kalo go'una qiil yeelanayo(ma i fahamtay)
sidaad la socoto waxaa ka dhacay banaan baxyo lagu taageerayo shirka
magaalooyinka puntland oo dhan,dadna waa bay kudhinteen kuwana
dhaawacmeen.
dadweynaha Gobolada magacaa ku bahoobay marna kama raalli noqon
Cabdillahi iyo dawladdisa in nabadaynta laga hadho.
Haddaba anigu aad baan uga xumahay in Puntland iyo madaxweyne
cabdllaahi Yusuf ay sidaa qaabka daran ku gabogaboobaan.(inkastoo
arrintaan gabogabaha dad badani igu diidanyihiin).
waxaan jeclaan lahayn in Puntland oo dhan ay shirka ka wada qayb gasho
anigoo qiyaasaya wax badan oo aan tebayo in ay keeni lahaayeen.
haba ugu weynaato in ay is hortaagaan Caasimad ku celinta Muqdisho
markale guul darro dabadeed. kama duwana Odaygii oo isna Xukunkii lagu
Celiyey.
wey dheeraatay
Nabdeey
mohamed s.