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Abdidhoof

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Nov 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/14/98
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"Just imagine how terrible it will be on the Day you Die
Others will go on Speaking
But you will not be able to Respond.."

(Ram Mohan Ray)


Abdi900938

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>abdi...@aol.com< writes:


Abdidhoof,

I know you have your own masjid, tafsiir and Imaamah but I thought verses of
Quran was enough to remind us the terrible death action instead of qouting this
faceless RAM. Isn't Quran Kafaa bihi wacdan.

P.S

Btw, what happen your singiture, "Abdisecular". Is it gone without notice or
changing is in order here?. I hope it's absence is a good sign of change.

Ina Da'ud

Abdidhoof

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Nov 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/17/98
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Ina Da'ud wrote:

>Isn't Quran Kafaa bihi wacdan.

Dear Ina Da'ud,

I speak a good Somali, but quite frankly this is new to me, can you please
explain the meaning of these words "Kafa bixi wacan ?" Are you a Somali Abbo or
something ?

Islam is my religion and the Qur'aan is its code, but to be honest with you ,
it isn't enough for my curious mind, I read it only when I want to fall sleep
really fast, just as boring as the Bible, only a little less original.


Abdidhoof

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Nov 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/17/98
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Ina Da'ud wrote:

>P.S
>
>Btw, what happen your singiture, "Abdisecular". Is it gone without notice or
>changing is in order here?. I hope it's absence is a good sign of change.


Dear Ina Da'ud,

Sorry to disapoint you, but I was, I am and I shall always be a secular person.


>Quran was enough to remind us the terrible death action instead of qouting
>this
>faceless RAM.

This faceless RAM ? you sound like having a problem with Ram Mohan Ray, has he
done something wrong to you ?
Other than Prophet Mohamed and Allah, do you have any *other* that you respect
or love in this world ?


J.J.Jama

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bashir ali

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Nov 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/18/98
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Abdidhoof wrote:

> Islam is my religion and the Qur'aan is its code, but to be honest with you ,
> it isn't enough for my curious mind, I read it only when I want to fall sleep
> really fast, just as boring as the Bible, only a little less original.


Abdidhoof, I'm sure you are not the only one to
fall sleep when reading the Qura'n.

I know that there are a lot of Muslims like you
who are illiterate of the Arabic language in which
the Qura'n was originally revealed. I also know that
there are lot of Muslims who have not even taken the
effort of learning the art of reading the Arabic language.

However, we know that there are many Qur'anic
translations in many languages including the
English language, but my is question is that
is the Qura'n intended to be used for only
when one wants to fall sleep fast as one uses
any over the counter sleepinal capsules that
are available in many drug stories?

I mean, I have seen, heard or read many Muslims
using, reading or reciting the Qur'an as means of
guidance and inspiration or seeking reward from it
as they read the Qura'n, but I have never seen, heard
or even read until now a Muslim person saying that he
uses the Qur'an as a nighttime sleeping aid.!!!

Bashir.

Abdidhoof

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Nov 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/18/98
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J. Jama wrote:

>Mr: Abdi
>
>I am deeply offended and outraged by your comment here,
>And certainly was not called for. Your comment here is
>clear disrespect for the sacred Qur'an of the Muslims, and
>being secular does not give License to disrespect The Quran
>which is both sacred and lasting miracle, and only miracle
>the prophet come with it, and Allah’s gift to lead humanity
>from darkness to light. The way you can get bored of the
>Quran is if you either Ignorant of its meaning and
>Arabic language , or your heart is not open to it.
>And you better keep it for yourself such mindless and
>Tasteless comment .
>FYI , Ina Daud does not represent Quran and Islam
>But himself alone and as a Muslim, and there is no reason
>for you to disrespect The Quran if he did not respect RAM
>Mohan or whatever.

Dear JJ

I am sorry if I offended your intelligence, I meant no disrespect when I wrote
that "mindless tasteless" response to Ina Da'ud's "mindless and also tasteless"
comment.

Now that I have re-read it again, it does not look good to me at all, quite
frankly, I am very much ashamed by it, my God, how could I be so blind ?

Sometimes I heard people say "the devil made me do it..", I think now I know
something about that, to me, this time Ina Da'ud was the Devil !

For everyone of you who was also offended by my response to Ina Da'ud on this
particular thread, please accept my sincere apologies.

Please pray for me, and I pray for you, so Allah forgive us all.

I am sorry.

Abdidhoof (the Secular)

Abdi900938

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>abdi...@aol.com< wrote:

>
>J. Jama wrote:
>
>>Mr: Abdi
>>
>>I am deeply offended and outraged by your comment here,
>>And certainly was not called for. Your comment here is
>>clear disrespect for the sacred Qur'an of the Muslims, and
>>being secular does not give License to disrespect The Quran
>>which is both sacred and lasting miracle, and only miracle
>>the prophet come with it, and Allah’s gift to lead humanity
>>from darkness to light. The way you can get bored of the
>>Quran is if you either Ignorant of its meaning and
>>Arabic language , or your heart is not open to it.
>>And you better keep it for yourself such mindless and
>>Tasteless comment .
>>FYI , Ina Daud does not represent Quran and Islam
>>But himself alone and as a Muslim, and there is no reason
>>for you to disrespect The Quran if he did not respect RAM
>>Mohan or whatever.
>
>Dear JJ
>
>I am sorry if I offended your intelligence, I meant no disrespect when I
>wrote
>that "mindless tasteless" response to Ina Da'ud's "mindless and also
>tasteless"
>comment.

Just I remind you the glory of Quran my comment was mindless and tasteless?. I
wonder what else I would tell you?.


>Now that I have re-read it again, it does not look good to me at all, quite
>frankly, I am very much ashamed by it, my God, how could I be so blind ?

I hope you have a courage to re-read again all your previous painting and see
how it is/was/will be ugly then ashamed you. Do you? I hope.

>Sometimes I heard people say "the devil made me do it..", I think now I know
>something about that, to me, this time Ina Da'ud was the Devil !

You're secular man with little respect for the believe of Muslims. Why you care
at this time the hearsay of the people you mock and laugh them?. Blame is
squarely on your shoulder. Blame no one except yourself. Didn't you heard in
Quran, "Yet I do not absolve myself, (of blame); the (human) soul certainly
incites evil, unless my lord do bestow His Mercy". 12:53

Your filthy soul is responsible for whatever you said at this time and you
should be held plainly responsible on your kufri statement.

>For everyone of you who was also offended by my response to Ina Da'ud on this
>particular thread, please accept my sincere apologies.

Yes on "this particular thread". That is a good sign. What about other threads
where you insulted and hurt the feeling of muslims. I hope you have a courage
to submit your sincere appology to the public without further pretex.

>Please pray for me, and I pray for you, so Allah forgive us all.
>
>I am sorry.


We pray Allah to you Allah to clean your soul and show you on the right path

Ina Da'ud


Abdidhoof (the Secular)
>

Ahmed Barre

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Nov 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/18/98
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Dear Abdi:
Good for you abdi. that was nice of you.and truly speaking as the people
have their ups and downs, that was your down moment. But thanx for the
apology and please stay away from ina daud. he offers nothing but getting
the cool people's nerve. ONly Alah knows why he is here abusing islam in
the name preaching.
--
[In uriidu ila-al islah ma astada'atu.Wamaa tawfiiqii ilaa bilaah]
Ahmed Yassin

Abdidhoof <abdi...@aol.com> wrote in article
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>
> J. Jama wrote:
>
> >Mr: Abdi
> >
> >I am deeply offended and outraged by your comment here,
> >And certainly was not called for. Your comment here is
> >clear disrespect for the sacred Qur'an of the Muslims, and
> >being secular does not give License to disrespect The Quran
> >which is both sacred and lasting miracle, and only miracle
> >the prophet come with it, and Allah’s gift to lead humanity
> >from darkness to light. The way you can get bored of the
> >Quran is if you either Ignorant of its meaning and
> >Arabic language , or your heart is not open to it.
> >And you better keep it for yourself such mindless and
> >Tasteless comment .
> >FYI , Ina Daud does not represent Quran and Islam
> >But himself alone and as a Muslim, and there is no reason
> >for you to disrespect The Quran if he did not respect RAM
> >Mohan or whatever.
>
> Dear JJ
>
> I am sorry if I offended your intelligence, I meant no disrespect when I
wrote
> that "mindless tasteless" response to Ina Da'ud's "mindless and also
tasteless"
> comment.
>

> Now that I have re-read it again, it does not look good to me at all,
quite
> frankly, I am very much ashamed by it, my God, how could I be so blind ?
>

> Sometimes I heard people say "the devil made me do it..", I think now I
know
> something about that, to me, this time Ina Da'ud was the Devil !
>

> For everyone of you who was also offended by my response to Ina Da'ud on
this
> particular thread, please accept my sincere apologies.
>

> Please pray for me, and I pray for you, so Allah forgive us all.
>
> I am sorry.
>

> Abdidhoof (the Secular)
>
>

Ahmed Barre

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Nov 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/18/98
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Dear JJ.

That was nice advice .It also come a right time in a right place. For
sure, anyone that knows arabic or even can understand little bit can't say
the quran is boring. Even those who don't understand even single word when
they heard being read, can realize that the rymth of the Quran is such
beautiful that one cann't resist but burst into tears.

Anyway thanx for that brotherly advice.

[In uriidu ila-al islah ma astada'atu.Wamaa tawfiiqii ilaa bilaah]
Ahmed Yassin

J.J.Jama <ja...@inforamp.net> wrote in article
<36520447...@inforamp.net>...


>
> Mr: Abdi
>
> I am deeply offended and outraged by your comment here,
> And certainly was not called for. Your comment here is
> clear disrespect for the sacred Qur'an of the Muslims, and
> being secular does not give License to disrespect The Quran
> which is both sacred and lasting miracle, and only miracle
> the prophet come with it, and Allah’s gift to lead humanity
> from darkness to light. The way you can get bored of the
> Quran is if you either Ignorant of its meaning and
> Arabic language , or your heart is not open to it.
> And you better keep it for yourself such mindless and
> Tasteless comment .
> FYI , Ina Daud does not represent Quran and Islam
> But himself alone and as a Muslim, and there is no reason
> for you to disrespect The Quran if he did not respect RAM
> Mohan or whatever.

> For Ina Daud let me say to you this , you are doing
> disservice to Islam and Muslims and stop instigating
> And inciting others, there was no reason for you to inject
> Qur’an into his comment, and your are in clear and direct
> Violation of this Aayah
>
> 6-108: Revile not ye those whom they call upon besides
> Allah, lest they out of spite revile Allah in their
> Ignorance. Thus have We made alluring to each people its
> Own doings. In the end will they return to their Lord, and
> We shall then tell them the truth of all that they did.
>
> Mr.: Abdi Please take back those words, that you said out
> of Ignorance and respect our feelings and emotions.
> J.J.Jama

>
> >>Ina Da'ud wrote:
>
> >>Isn't Quran Kafaa bihi wacdan.
> >Dear Ina Da'ud,
> >I speak a good Somali, but quite frankly this is new
> >to me, can you please
> >explain the meaning of these words ;Kafa bixi
> >wacan ? Are you a Somali Abbo or
> >something ?
>

Garaar1

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Nov 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/18/98
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Abdidhoof is brave enough to confront his mistakes and make an apology, but
Abdi Da'ud , being a failed Clanist who become a Born Again Muslim or a BAM as
Abdidhoof would call it, after his clan was defeated by another Clan in north
west Somalia reacted in this way:



>Your filthy soul is responsible for whatever you said at this time and you
>should be held plainly responsible on your kufri statement.
>

With this mocking grin on his face, on one hand abusing one Muslim person like
this way while on the other hand supporting the likes of Fedoon, its clear to
me that this guy's requirements for being a proper Muslim is very much
confusing indeed, and therefore one might logically assume that he would want
nothing short of having Allah and Heaven all for himself.

Please say this after me:

"A'uuuudu Billaahi Mina Sheydaani Rajiiiiiiiimm !"

No doubt, if ever was a Sheytaan or Devil in this Cave, Ina Da'ud must be the
one !

Shuushoow Bax !! Shuushoow Bax !!

"Exorcist of the Cave..., I summon you !"


Abdi900938

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Nov 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/18/98
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Garaar paints on this wall:-


>Abdidhoof is brave enough to confront his mistakes and make an apology, but
>Abdi Da'ud , being a failed Clanist who become a Born Again Muslim or a BAM
>as
>Abdidhoof would call it, after his clan was defeated by another Clan in north
>west Somalia reacted in this way:
>
>>Your filthy soul is responsible for whatever you said at this time and you
>>should be held plainly responsible on your kufri statement.
>>

Garaar?!!, instead of filling this wall this kind of crab why you don't sit
back and enjoy the debate in peace.


>With this mocking grin on his face, on one hand abusing one Muslim person
>like
>this way while on the other hand supporting the likes of Fedoon, its clear
>to
>me that this guy's requirements for being a proper Muslim is very much
>confusing indeed, and therefore one might logically assume that he would want
>nothing short of having Allah and Heaven all for himself.

I wish all muslims khayr. You are the one who does not know in "reeri gu'a u
da'ayoo gamasho keynaaneen". It is you who negate Islam and speak for
something has nothing to do Islam. It's clanist like you who have no courage
even to reveal his real name. It's you and likes we want them learn lslam then
divorce all kind of ritual trible play. It is you who was brainwashed by Somali
Warlords and need help. It is you and likes who run in the society with all
kind of venom and need us being vigilant.


>Please say this after me:
>"A'uuuudu Billaahi Mina Sheydaani Rajiiiiiiiimm !"
>
>No doubt, if ever was a Sheytaan or Devil in this Cave, Ina Da'ud must be
>the
>one !

>Shuushoow Bax !! Shuushoow Bax !!


May be the only witness you have in this statement (after few muharijiinis)
will be Benyamin Netanyahu and haaliq Isak Shamir?. Don't tell this kind of
buffoon this forum.

May Allah help you and guide you to the right path.


Ina Da'ud

J.J.Jama

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Nov 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/18/98
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Walaal: Ahmed Yassin:
Adiga ayaa Mudan oo mahadsan.
Jama

J.J.Jama

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Dear Abdidhoof:
Your sincere apologies accepted and thank you very much.
Jama

Abdidhoof wrote:

> J. Jama wrote:
>
> >Mr: Abdi
> >
> >I am deeply offended and outraged by your comment here,
> >And certainly was not called for. Your comment here is
> >clear disrespect for the sacred Qur'an of the Muslims, and
> >being secular does not give License to disrespect The Quran
> >which is both sacred and lasting miracle, and only miracle
> >the prophet come with it, and Allah’s gift to lead humanity
> >from darkness to light. The way you can get bored of the
> >Quran is if you either Ignorant of its meaning and
> >Arabic language , or your heart is not open to it.
> >And you better keep it for yourself such mindless and
> >Tasteless comment .
> >FYI , Ina Daud does not represent Quran and Islam
> >But himself alone and as a Muslim, and there is no reason
> >for you to disrespect The Quran if he did not respect RAM
> >Mohan or whatever.
>

Ilyaas99

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Nov 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/19/98
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Walaal Abdidhoof,

I don't agree with many of the things you write on SCS, but to tell the truth
like it is, I always read your articles before those of Abdi Daud's, because I
personally find his writings most boring of all.

Dear brother, you may have missed the point, what was boring your mind was not
the Holy Quran, it must have been the writings of Abdi Daud's, thats where
things went really dull, repetitve and boring, and you were confused by it.

He says that he is praying for you, but as others have said, this is a very
selfish and a jealous man, who would not share even Allah and Heaven with the
rest of God's creations, his body may be praying with the Ummah, but no doubt
in my mind, his heart is in a very lonely place.

Once Again, dear Abdidhoof, thank you for being so brave ( I knew you are) in
correcting the mistake, we all do mistakes, no one is perfect, only that
unlike you, Abdi Daud is never brave enough to face his blunders like you did.

Remember what he said when brother Abdirashid asked him the question ? I do,
and he said that he was busy at the time, but you know what ? He was lying,
because he was never too busy to follow up to this thread, and he is still
here, looking for stupid points to score, while brother Abdirashid is still
waiting for his answer.

Wasalaam.

Mohamed Foore

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Nov 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/19/98
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Dear Ilyaas

As far as I know Mr abdidhoof (the secular) is the only person
who did not beat about the bush when he is firing his views on Islam.
He is totally against Islamic rule.

He also goes to such an extent that he mocks and looks down,
upon those who devoted themselves in propagating our religion
in order to find a solution to our people.

To my point of view, This time he has reached the end of the line.
when he declared that he is bored Qur'an (word of Allah) this clearly
indicates that he is not satisfied with Quran, thus, not believer
to what our prophet was revealed.

This is a grave matter and does not require an apology
but a sincere repent to ALLAH.

Ilyaas you have to be fair and stand for the truth no matter
how bitter it is, Abdi Daud is the one of those whom I can say
had acquired enough knowledge of islam and
also defends and devotes his time and energy for his
religion no mater what it cost him, meaning he has to endure insults,
mockery and undermining of his personal integrity.

My dear brothers/sisters I suggest that the righteous people
to be supported and to pray for those whose faith is shaken
by western civilization.

My Allah shows us the right path.

--
~Mohamed Foore~


Ilyaas99 <ilya...@aol.com> wrote in article
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carr...@my-dejanews.com

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I am sure we are playing into hands of ina Daud. after all, it is the
attention that he is seeking to find some refuge from the debilitating
loneliness. Some people are responsible; others are not. He happens to fall
into the category of not. I really don't want to waste any more time because
enough man hour has been wasted on him by the forum memberes already. However
I would like to take this opportunity to put the issue in a different
perspective.

Since the forum is microsom of the Somali people at large and all kind of
personalaties is more less represented, this fellow is the poster boy for the
new breed of theology Warlords who scheme behind the veil of Islamic values.
Like those are those who are chopping the hands off of Somalis peasants for
unsubstantiated allegations of theivery or some other pity crime, so they can
embed fear in the community. Make no mistake, their victims are always some
poor transient guy who doesn't have anyone to protect him. These are the same
people who used to tell little old ladies to put some money in the Kitaab
Quran, the infamous Kitaab fur, before any healing can be rendered. They are
the same people who used to take advantage of the most vulnerable members of
the society, the sick, the confuse, the weak. How many times have we heard
stories in which these vultures cohercing ladies to have sex with them. Why??
Because their exalted fornication would somehow help the unlucky infertile
women to have babies.


The only difference now, is that they are doing their tricks out in the open;
and their victims are no longer only the gullible amongst us. For all I can
say these must be the best times for them because of the power vacuum. Worse
yet ,In some corners, they are actually running the show. Alla help the poor
Somalis.

And speaking of running the show, I recall a tragic story that took place in
Northwest Somalia, specifically hargeisa. Few years ago an acquaintance told
me, (in fact others have collaberated his account since, but our brothers
from that region can confirm), that three ladies were stoned to death in the
middle of the day at town center by mob. It turns out religious zealot had
decreed the execution of the poor women. And who was this man who given the
ultimate sentencing. A recovering alcoholic who became, you have guessed it,
born again Muslim. Since the day I heard that story, I cann't shake off my
mind of the gruesome mental image of these women crying in vain. Just imagine
buried waist high and hundreds of people taking turns by hitting you with
stones while cursing, and ultimately dying in agonizing painful slow death.
It also important to mention that, as usual, the three ladies ( May Allah
forgive them) were poor and didn't have any relatives. The haunting question
to every Muslim is, even if they had committed the adultery, where were
their male partners. Religion is absolutely not vaque about the act of
condemning one to death by stone. There should be at least three devout
Muslims who had witnessed the intercourse act, literally the penetration
*itself*. Non of these guidelines were properly followed I understand in this
savage homocide.

To make long story short, Somalia is endanger more than anything else of this
new brand of terror in the name religion, actually it more like BIDCA. We
have to be all vigilant and stop them before it is too late and satanic
ritual of the slaying of those three ladies plays out million times. Indeed,
ina Daud's harassment of some membrs; such as Abdidhoof is only the preview
of the coming horror attraction. Watchout you all, will you.?


Let me conclude by saying, when confronting these criminals never ever buy you
are " against religion rhetoric" cliche. It is part of the strategy of
disarming the populace.


Salaan aan soo gudbinaa.

Carrabay.

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Abdi900938

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>bdid...@aol.com< wrote:

>Ina Da'ud wrote:
>
>>P.S
>>
>>Btw, what happen your singiture, "Abdisecular". Is it gone without notice or
>>changing is in order here?. I hope it's absence is a good sign of change.
>
>
>Dear Ina Da'ud,
>
>Sorry to disapoint you, but I was, I am and I shall always be a secular
>person.


You will never disappoint me as long as long as I call you Islam. I will try my
best to offer you the Islamic remedy you need. For yourself secular
indulgement, you're not the only one who cry for this title to relate anything
but Islam. For me and my fellow Islamist we know it means seperation of
Religion from State. We know it's the product of Western Culture. We know it
has nothing to do Islamic teaching let alone Somali Culture you like to drum
around. Moreover, we know those whom brainwashed whom departed the teaching of
Islam are ones who imported and enforced it without their consent in many
fields in Islamic world despite it's contradicition of the very fundemental of
Islam. After all, we know it failed before and it has slim chance to make
another take off in Somalia.


>>Quran was enough to remind us the terrible death action instead of qouting
>>this
>>faceless RAM.
>
>This faceless RAM ? you sound like having a problem with Ram Mohan Ray, has
>he
>done something wrong to you ?
>Other than Prophet Mohamed and Allah, do you have any *other* that you
>respect
>or love in this world ?
>


Yes, I do respect all creatures that conform their nature with the accordance
of the mission given to them in this world. For those who negate their duty in
this world and become subservient of their lust, they have hard time to win any
respect.

Btw, didn't you find enough verses that address the "horror" of death? instead
of qouting this faceless RAM?. I hope you don't cry this time " I'm out of
Islam" as anyone gain anything but you if you stay in Islamic boundry.


Ina Da'ud


Abdidhoof

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Nov 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/21/98
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Dear Ina Da'ud,

You may be oblivious to this, but I think your soul has been taken by the
Sheytaan, and he is using you to make Islaam look as most terrifying as
possible.

Any reasonable person who reads your stupid writings and Islamist rantings can
see how lost and lonely you are, and as Garaar has said, its also clear to me
that your aproach to Islam is just as selfserving as your former lost Clanist
ambition, only that you have substituted your failed Clanism to yet another
twisted form of Islamism

I and the rest of the Somali seculars will make sure that you fail again, that
Somalia will never fall under the rule of the worshippers of the God of Fear.

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Abdidhoof

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Nov 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/21/98
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Hey ! Now when the Death-Point between dawns upon me,
I will give up the preouccupation of all-desiring mind,
Enter unwavering the experience of clarity of the percepts,
And transmigrate into the birthless space of inner awareness;
About to lose this created body of flesh and blood,
I will realize it to be impermanet illussion !

(From the Tibetan Book of the Dead)

Ahmed Barre

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Nov 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/22/98
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Dear cavers:

jabkaa ina daud gaaray waan ku diirsadaye
ileyn waa lagu digtaa haduu ruux kuu darnaan jiraye
bal dayoooy waa wadaadkii sii dabayshadaye

===marxuum 3ali Aadan (3ali dhuux)======

he is gone... he is gone for goo000000D. the underpaid Saudi agent's
personal profile came to an end.
thus, i would like to take time to thank the fact-finding team who took
their precious time writting about this character's unholy mission. you
all know that it was not easy to accomplish this task. It was not easy
because the agent was wearing religious mask as ladder to accompalish his
mission.

i would to thank you guys once again your efforts but please note our long
way of reaching SOME ISLAH out here in the cave is not ended; we still have
a long way to go which means there are other agents hidding.

but hey don't you think that if we speak out againt clanism, warlordism,
and wahabism, we can do good job?.
i would like to remind you that the our beloved Messenger said" the best
mujahid is the one who tells the truth against tyrant king" which means,
to speak out against tyrany, dictatorship, mental slavery of weaks is
considered the best jihaad.

Abdi900938

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>"Mohamed Foore" Writes:

>Ilyaas you have to be fair and stand for the truth no matter
>how bitter it is, Abdi Daud is the one of those whom I can say
>had acquired enough knowledge of islam and
>also defends and devotes his time and energy for his
>religion no mater what it cost him, meaning he has to endure insults,
>mockery and undermining of his personal integrity.

Without self tazkiya, thank you bro for your remarks. I'm not that kind of
person who knows a lot from Islam. What brought me to this stage is these self
defeated Somalis whom thought they can sell this bad commodity
("secularism+ritual play) in this forum under false names. Their persistant
attack on Islam under man made pretex made me and my fellow other muslims
look/examine source of their claim.

As you know the more we give them brotherly advice/insight the more they call
personal shots. The day they feel you a knowing person who understand their
agenda they aim you at all cost. I'm sure these losers will not hestitate to
kill and mutilate any Islamist if they got a chance. History events has proven
they are murderer merciless cold blooded. Look what they did in Egypt, Algeria,
Tunisa, Saudi Arabia, Morocco etc. Before they were a clanist looters in
Somalia then lonesome seculars in diaspora.


These self appointed losers has a daunting job to face Somali Islamist in
everywhere in globe. Look out Somali refugee around the globe. You will find
the only hand that help them out rather sustain their Islam and culture (that
conform Islam) is Somali Islamist. Where are these clanist covert securlars
(CCS)?. Chewing Kat and back biting behind the Somali Islamist.

Did anyone saw any contirbution they make to the well being of Somalis in
Diaspora.?!! Let they have courage and tell the forum what they did for Somalis
in diaspora?!. I was told once in one State, some Somali parents had requested
from their local district school not to add the lunch menu any pork etc. The
next day a Somali secular was out of dirty mission telling the principle and
resource teacher that eating the Pork is allowed in America due to weather
change.

Look, how this Fiqi Buraale ignorant fatwaa?!! I'm not saying all Seculars did
this but what I'm pointing out is how ignorance and arragont dwells in their
heart.

Look all these peoples in cave: Ina Barre, Abdidhoof, Ilyaas, Garaar1! and
their new freshmen Carrabay, who join them lately their unholy Marathoon
against Somali Sharia!!. Look at this man, Aw Jama oo tusbax dheer sita oo
suunnada diidan dabadeedna uga jiibinaya from the window. Are they monogenic
or quadripartite? or more. Whatever they are, some of them are beyond norms
like Abdidhoof. Others are die hard hatemongers like Ina Barre who lost in
touch core of Islam!!. Others become double bogey like Carrabay and Garaar one
whom fail to grasb the basic foundation of Islam in peace.

I become their taboo?. Whenever I crush one of these seculars another faceless
stubborn comes out of closet. Thus, the struggle between truth and false
continue until day of judgement.


>My dear brothers/sisters I suggest that the righteous people
> to be supported and to pray for those whose faith is shaken
> by western civilization.


Yes bro, that is right. These cowardice are part of our current history that we
are erasing from the map and mindset of fellow Somalis. We, Somali Islamist are
part of bigger mission that is already shaping the history of our country.

For these seculars has a limited choice: back to Islam in full or buy grave and
box in West. Nothing else!!. There will be no middle ground in horizon as I
many see it.

>My Allah shows us the right path


Aamin

Ina Da'ud


-
>~Mohamed Foore~
>

Abdi900938

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>abdi...@aol.com (Abdidhoof)

>Ina Da'ud wrote:
>
>>Isn't Quran Kafaa bihi wacdan.
>
>Dear Ina Da'ud,
>
>I speak a good Somali, but quite frankly this is new to me, can you please
>explain the meaning of these words "Kafa bixi wacan ?" Are you a Somali Abbo
>or
>something ?


Abdidhoof, there is nothing called Somali Abbo. As far as "Kafa bihii wacdan"
concern is an arabic sentences in which I meant, " Wacdi isaga ayaa ku filan"
(oo aan ula jeeday Quraanka).

I'm sure you will learn let alone save us a lot if you ask us similiar
questions in Islam.

Ina Da'ud

Abdidhoof

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Ina Da'uud,

Xajadeenu waa Kaaf iyo kala dheeri, adna waxaad rabtaa in af Soomaaliga lagu
dhigo Carabi, anna waxaan ku tala jiraa in Quraanka lagu barto Af Soomaali oo
weliba Afkeenna hooyo Eebe lagu caabudo.
Af Carbeedkaan ee aad sanka naga soo gelgelinayso intaad joojiso, Aayadaha af
Soomaali ma u fasirtay sida ina Aw-Muuse, mise waxaa lagaa dhadhiciyey inuu
Alle Af Carabi keliya ku hadlo ?
Iska Illoow ! Aniga iyo adigu isku Alle ma nihin, kaftanna igama aha, kaagu
waa Cabsi iyo Amar ku taagleyn oo adiga ayaaba wax weyn la ah, keyguna waa
Jacayl iyo dulqaad, aniga iyo diqsiguna uma kala duwanin.

Mohamed Foore

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Ahmed Barre <aya...@intergate.bc.ca> wrote in article
<01be1627$fa6f8220$b1adc2cf@user>...


> Dear cavers:
>
> jabkaa ina daud gaaray waan ku diirsadaye
> ileyn waa lagu digtaa haduu ruux kuu darnaan jiraye
> bal dayoooy waa wadaadkii sii dabayshadaye
>
> ===marxuum 3ali Aadan (3ali dhuux)======


Daer Ahmed
asalaamu calaykum.

I am in a great dilemma where to put you, because some times
you portray your self as a matured intellectual being capable
of expressing and contributing in our forum With highly reasonable
solutions and feedback.
On other hand some times I see you as a child holding
Grande as a toy.
To be frank with you, the comments, conveyed by you in this
topic of Abdi daud and the secular groups was inappropriate.
Leaving your personal differences behind, I think it is
proper from my point of view to say, that ,you have lot of things
in common with In Daud than secular groups.

This is because you are a person who have sound believe
in his religion, Islam.
Whereas, for the seculars, there is doubt that some of them may
have reached the other side of the fence, thus, out of the
religion due to what they are uttering.
Therefore, I fail to understand why you are associating yourself with
these confused devils who have deserted thier religion becuase
of the glittering of the west.

Don't you remember that Our prophet (s.c.w.)siad
((Al Mar'u Maca Man Axabba)).
we don't know what is in the heart of the people but we judge
everybody according what he/she writes.

My dear Ahmed please watch out for our sworn enemy is
Shaytaan iyo Cawaantiisa.

--
~Mohamed Foore~

Ilyaas99

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>Abdi Da'ud Wrote:
>Look all these peoples in cave: Ina Barre, Abdidhoof, Ilyaas, Garaar1! and
>their new freshmen Carrabay, who join them lately their unholy Marathoon
>against Somali Sharia!!.

Abdi Da'ud:

Before going any further, I challenge you in the name Allah (SW) to tell
Maracase and the rest of the readers of SCS, WHERE and WHEN I said I am against
Somali Sharia ??!!!

Its true, I am not lying, I don't like your aproach and the way (the style) of
your writngs, I am not accusing you of this, but you come across as someone who
is too eager to shed Somali blood and who is impatiantly waiting in ambush
against the rest of us, for the day the opportunity and the power comes to his
way.
Please calm down, we are not an enemy, we are your brothers and sisters, we are
Somalis like you.

Its true and I am not lying that I wouldn't hire you as the spokeperson for
the Muslim community, but this is not to say that I am against the Islamic
Sharia, because that is not true, because I believe that Somalia needs Islam,
true Islam.
Please refrain from accusing others of being against the Sharia when they say
that they don't like you.

You can't make me or others to like you by falsely accusing me of participating
in "an unholy marathon against Islam Sharia in Somlaia", I never said such
things, if anything,, by lying like that, you are only enforcing my opinions
against you.

I hope this time you will face your *shortcomings* and be brave enough to take
back this baseless accusation against me.

Wassalaam.

Abdi900938

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Nov 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/24/98
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Ilyaas,

Without further discussion I have decided to withdraw your name from below
statement. If you believe I shouldn't group with you these folks, that is fine.
However, do you brave to take back all your insults on me?. In addition, if
you are for true Sharia in Somalia do you brave to quell on those who reject
loud and clear the rule of Sharia for Somalia?.

Ina Da'ud

Abdi900938

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>abdi...@aol.com< writes:

>Ina Da'uud,
>
>Xajadeenu waa Kaaf iyo kala dheeri, adna waxaad rabtaa in af Soomaaliga lagu
>dhigo Carabi, anna waxaan ku tala jiraa in Quraanka lagu barto Af Soomaali oo
>weliba Afkeenna hooyo Eebe lagu caabudo.
>Af Carbeedkaan ee aad sanka naga soo gelgelinayso intaad joojiso,

Waar inta kaleba kula gartaye, sidee Af Soomaliga Alla loogu caabudayaa?. Ma
waxaad rabtaa in Salaadda lagu tukado afka Soomaaliga, Quraankuna lagu akhriyo
far Somaliga?.


> Aayadaha
>af
>Soomaali ma u fasirtay sida ina Aw-Muuse,


In Alla lagu caabudo far Soomali waa mid, in lagu fasironana waa mid kale?.
Maxamed Musa tan dambe ayuu sameeyay oo sharciga waxba ka qabin, ta horena wa
curad adiga kugu eg.

>mise waxaa lagaa dhadhiciyey inuu
>Alle Af Carabi keliya ku hadlo ?

Aniga ma odhan hadalkaa qallafsan, ha ii odhan waxaanan dhihin. Markay
cibaadada timaaddo Carabiga ayaa lagu cibaadaysanayaa gaar ahaan salaadda.


>Iska Illoow ! Aniga iyo adigu isku Alle ma nihin, kaftanna igama aha,


Wixii maanta ka horreyey waxaa moodayay inaan isku Rabbi nahay, imminkanse
waxaa cad in qallad kugu dhacday oo aad leedahay ktaab gooni ah, tafsiir gooni
ah, masjid gooni, imaam gooni iyo Rabbi gooni ah. Enjoy your ignorant and
kufriyaad if it has anything to enjoy. I wonder how long it take to live with
lawlessness?!!.

> kaagu
>waa Cabsi iyo Amar ku taagleyn

Ma waxaad rabtay inaad Alla talada la wadaagtid. Allahaan caabudayo waa Allah
la su'aalin waxa uu sameeyo. Miyaadan maqlin ayaadda uu Alla ku yidhi, "lama
su'aalo wixii uu sameeyo iyaguna waa la su'aala waxay sameeyaan".

Waa Alla maqnaan iyo joogid lagaga cabsado, haddana waa Alla laga jecel yahay
wax kasta, xataa naftaada iyo labadii ku dhashay?. Waa Alla looga mahadceliyo
nimco kasta oo uu kugu galladaystay oo aan la koobi karin..........and list
goes on.


> oo adiga ayaaba wax weyn la ah,

Lier, lier, lier. Nacuudu billaahi inaan sheeganno waxaanan ahayn. I challenge
you Abdidhoof to back up your claim?.


> keyguna waa
>Jacayl iyo dulqaad, aniga iyo diqsiguna uma kala duwanin.

What is His name?. Sifooyinkiisu maxay yihin xaggeese ka qaadatay?. Lagama baqo
miyaa?. Ma jirtaa ayaad kitaabkiisa ku taalla oo sheegaysa in laga baqo?.
?????

Ina Da'ud

Ilyaas99

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>Ilyaas,
>
>Without further discussion I have decided to withdraw your name from below
>statement.

Its not that you decide or not, when you are caught lying about somebody or
something, you are obliged to take back the lie and eat it, or else you risk
losing the respect of others.

>If you believe I shouldn't group with you >these folks, that is fine.

I was not talking about *these folks*, I was talking about me, you tried one of
those cheap tactics of yours on me, to paint me as being one who is against the
Sharia and therefore by extension a potential Kufri target for beheading in
your twisted mind, only this time your were caught red handed, and was stopped
cold in the midst of the evil act.

> However, do you brave to take back all your insults on me?. In addition, if
>you are for true Sharia in Somalia do you >brave to quell on those who reject
>loud and clear the rule of Sharia for Somalia?.

I don't think I ever insulted you, all I did was to express my views about what
you write on SCS, thats all.
Like I said, even though I disagree with some of the things Abdidhoof writes on
SCSI, still I would rather read his articles than those of yours, because he
comes across as an imperfect human being, like the rest of us, but
you come across( and this is not an accusation, just an observation) as a cold
and calculating prosecutor whose wish is to, at the first opportunity, teach
the rest of the Somalis a lesson written in their own blood.

Furthermore, you have actually validated my expressed opinions about you on my
original posting, by trying to stain my reputation and nakedly lying about me
and without any reason, none whatsoever accusing me of being against the
Islamic Sharia.

Abdi900938

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Nov 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/25/98
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Ilyaas,

I was too lienient to you in my first follow up, hoping you grasp the
foundation of Islam, but unfortunately I found your follow up was a fatal blow
to my slow reaction of many of your insults and ignorance. Hence, I decided to
follow up this strongly.


> ilya...@aol.com (Ilyaas99) writes:

>>Ilyaas,
>>
>>Without further discussion I have decided to withdraw your name from below
>>statement.
>
>Its not that you decide or not, when you are caught lying about somebody or
>something, you are obliged to take back the lie and eat it, or else you risk
>losing the respect of others.


I'm lying here and nor I'm afraid to lose any respect. I have given you a
benefit of doubt last time but it seems you're druming the language of seculars
who cry that they love Islam but not it's messengers;


>>If you believe I shouldn't group with you >these folks, that is fine.


>I was not talking about *these folks*, I was talking about me, you tried one
>of
>those cheap tactics of yours on me, to paint me as being one who is against
>the
>Sharia and therefore by extension a potential Kufri target for beheading in
>your twisted mind, only this time your were caught red handed, and was
>stopped
>cold in the midst of the evil act.
>


Again you're here smelling like ignorant stoogies whom puddling with naked
arrogancy. Learn islam then speak with knowledge before you storm the stage.
Why you twist the issue of beheading?. I see you asking to play a fire?. The
issue of beheading was not my idea nor it's tatic local consumption to silence
those who change their religion after Islam. This was a Hadith saxiix from the
prophet peace upon him. You should abide it's merit instead of making a mocking
headband.


>> However, do you brave to take back all your insults on me?. In addition, if
>>you are for true Sharia in Somalia do you >brave to quell on those who
>reject
>>loud and clear the rule of Sharia for Somalia?.
>


>I don't think I ever insulted you,


If this is not lie what else?. You said with little disdain and qoute, "it
must have been the writings of Abdi Da'ud's, thats where things went really
dull, repetive and boring......"
Listen, despite my shortcoming, I was writing from the objective of Sharia.
You can't refute that because those who speak with knowledge knows that?.

> all I did was to express my views about
>what
>you write on SCS, thats all.

So this was a liberal view that fail to consider the xuduudul Islam , "This is
a very selfish and jealous man, who would not share even Allah and Heaven with
the rest of God's creations, his body may be praying with the ummah, but no
doubt in my mind (!!!), his heart is in a very lonely place".

With re-reading this statement I found you the most lier person I ever come
across (of course, Abdidhoof). How do you know I'm that kind of evil mushrik
person?. By new Waxyi, by Ilhaam, by dream by reading the Daxlaani book or by
reading David Recardo theory. I'm sure none of Islamic books nor my humble
writing support your disturbing claim.


Listen man, not only you lied about me in my silence but also warrant to lie to
your self. You're rukn al kadib rather dajaal dhega bacaar dhigaya. Just I
stated the Hadith that fit the condition of your defeated secular friends, you
are associating with me these devil characteristics. I know your Qamuus is
full of hate and lies, make no mistake, I'm not kind of person you can
distract him from his mission. Moreover you've no courage at all to produce
anything to back up your wild claim. Challenge stand!

>Like I said, even though I disagree with some of the things Abdidhoof writes
>on
>SCSI, still I would rather read his articles than those of yours, because he
>comes across as an imperfect human being, like the rest of us, but
>you come across( and this is not an accusation, just an observation) as a
>cold
>and calculating prosecutor whose wish is to, at the first opportunity, teach
>the rest of the Somalis a lesson written in their own blood.


This is pure nonsense. I don't believe anyone who care about Islam and muslim
brotherhood dare to utter such nonsenses. You read Abdidhoof ninjaas writing
with high trances!. On what basis?. Because he bashes on Somali Islamist or
because you share with him a lot of charactersitics?. As bro Foore said there
is no in common between you and him? Or you want to tell us something else?.

If you know Islam I would ask you where is walaaa? and where is baraa but
since you seem an empty shell your love of Abdidhoof writing shows a lot of
your personality.


Those who speak with knowledge knows that they have a daunting job to rehab
those who negate their religion and cry for impossible.

>
>Furthermore, you have actually validated my expressed opinions about you on
>my
>original posting, by trying to stain my reputation and nakedly lying about me
>and without any reason, none whatsoever accusing me of being against the
>Islamic Sharia


Frankly I care less for what you stand since you fail more than once to
understand the difference between walaa and walbaraa in Islam. Morever, I see
you as a faceless namaam who is full of hate and ignorance without reason.

Once you live up your diin and have courage to disassociate from these folks ie
Abdidhoof and accept for murtad should beheaded then ask people to be
considered you a serious a waaci muslim who can materialize his call. Untill
then good luck and May Allah guide you and give fiqil islaam wa fiqul waaqic..


Ibnu Rumi has said once:

O My servants, were you not angry on My behalf, on behalf of Me, the Majestic,
the Splendid?.

Did you forsake your brethren and desert them - out upon you - as ignoble men
desert (their fellows)

You were not jealous on account of My jeolousy, so you abandoned My inviolable
ones to those who deflied My sanctuary.

And I am alone, when they rise up to accuse me, and the Prophet himself takes
charges of the case against me on their behalf..


Ina Da'ud


Ahmed Barre

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Mohamed Foore <Mora...@thornlietafe.wa.edu.au> wrote in article
<01be16c3$ef8299a0$a406...@mod6112.aus.com>...

>> Daer Ahmed
> asalaamu calaykum.

Mohamed.
wacalaykuma salam

> I am in a great dilemma where to put you,

How about, for Alah's sake, if you just dumb me into your garbage container
(if u have any)?
and leave me in there.I think that is my place.


>because some times
> you portray your self as a matured intellectual being capable
> of expressing and contributing in our forum With highly reasonable
> solutions and feedback.

i doubt that. i think your mind was playing silly games on you. It was
telling you lies.

> On other hand some times I see you as a child holding
> Grande as a toy.

hahahaah . you could say that as far as i am here to hammer down wahabaism.
and Don't you think it is good for me to have some flashback of my chilhood
and my alaab alaabeey games? .
If you didn't have some chilhood problems, i think you also do have the
kind of nostalgic and longing feeling i do have for that never-come-back
era, the chilhood.

And please recall that it was 3ali binu abuu daalib who once said "
aaaaaaaaaah law 3utu fii shabaaabii yooman, li-a3rifa maa adrakani fii
shuyuukhii" meaning "oo0000H if i could go back my old-youth days for
single day just to see the effect of aging is having on me "


> To be frank with you, the comments, conveyed by you in this
> topic of Abdi daud and the secular groups was inappropriate.

In your point of view.. but in my point of view i would like to tell you
that i hate this man. It is coz he and his cult don't want to be free
thinking human beings. In fact they chosed to be mentalslaves of saudi
badweins. And i would like to tell you that if could i wuold have put him
in a car and use him as CRASH-TEST DUMMY.

> Leaving your personal differences behind, I think it is
> proper from my point of view to say, that ,you have lot of things
> in common with In Daud than secular groups.


of course , my dear moracase, i and those seculars have our own
differences. And i would like to tell you that it is one my principles that
i on an one hand i will never ever agree 100% with any living human while
on the other hand i won't disgaree him/her with 0%, too.

But to say i and this wahabi have anything in common is really unforgivable
mistake. Let having anything in common, i even doubt if we pray to same
Alah.
About those secularists, i think they at least believe "live and let others
live, too". at least they are not slaughtering anyone in the name of
islam.


> This is because you are a person who have sound believe
> in his religion, Islam.
> Whereas, for the seculars, there is doubt that some of them may
> have reached the other side of the fence, thus, out of the
> religion due to what they are uttering.


It doesn't matter what you believe as long as you aren't letting others
live in peace. Let Alah sort out who is who hereafter and let us live in
peace here on planet mother earth.

> Therefore, I fail to understand why you are associating yourself with

I doubt if you are capable of understanding anything as long as you are not
using your mind but letting some unknown badwein forces program you.


> these confused devils who have deserted thier religion becuase
> of the glittering of the west.

i think this too much.


>
> Don't you remember that Our prophet (s.c.w.)siad
> ((Al Mar'u Maca Man Axabba)).


dear foore of course i do. i also do remember that this hadith is one of
the highly quoted by wahabias to deny people's choice of life and what kind
of freinds they make.

> we don't know what is in the heart of the people but we judge
> everybody according what he/she writes.
>
> My dear Ahmed please watch out for our sworn enemy is
> Shaytaan iyo Cawaantiisa.


thanks that advuce but i would ike to tell you that satan is here to mind
his/her business while i ,too do mind mine---to hammmer some wahabia.

dear foore let me tell this ... do u know that you are on black list? of
you are in and you are # 3 while the first happened to be ina daud and
faadhyon the second.


Abdi900938

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>
>Ilyaas,
>
>I was too lienient to you in my first follow up, hoping you grasp the
>foundation of Islam, but unfortunately I found your follow up was a fatal
>blow
>to my slow reaction of many of your insults and ignorance. Hence, I decided
>to
>follow up this strongly.
>
>
>
>
>> ilya...@aol.com (Ilyaas99) writes:
>
>>>Ilyaas,
>>>
>>>Without further discussion I have decided to withdraw your name from below
>>>statement.
>>
>>Its not that you decide or not, when you are caught lying about somebody or
>>something, you are obliged to take back the lie and eat it, or else you risk
>>losing the respect of others.
>
>
>I'm not lying here and nor I'm afraid to lose any respect. I have given you a

Abdi900938

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>"J.J.Jama"> Writes:

>For Ina Daud let me say to you this , you are doing
>disservice to Islam and Muslims and stop instigating
>And inciting others,


Aw Jamac,

Me or You who denied without proof Sunnatul rasuulillaahi?. Waaryahee maxaa kaa
dhigay hashii cunaysay oo haddana cabaadaysay!!. Moreover, where you get this?.
I'm sure you know you have no inferences from Quran and sunnah to back up your
claim?. I wonder what kind of fiqi you follow if you deny me to tell others
annal Qura'ana kafaa bihi wacdan.


> there was no reason for you to inject
>Qur’an into his comment,

So you want me to play Plato game and preach anything but Quran. Aw Jamac,
there was more than one reason to tell your friend kafaa bihi wacdan in Quran?.


> and your are in clear and direct
>Violation of this Aayah

>6-108: Revile not ye those whom they call upon besides
>Allah, lest they out of spite revile Allah in their
>Ignorance. Thus have We made alluring to each people its
>Own doings. In the end will they return to their Lord, and
>We shall then tell them the truth of all that they did.


I like your fiqi buraale doctrine. How long it take you to master this kind of
Fiqi Buraale?. You assume this man as he is Kafir. And if someone remind him
the versus of Allah he throws back his anger on Allah (tacalallaahu camma
yaquulu althaalimuuna).

I'm sure if anyone wrote what you wrote the flare of fire would lid in the sky
of this medium for long long time but no thanks it was a gesture from lonesome
of a munkiri alsunnah to a secular loser.

Aw Jamac, this verse has nothing to do in your inferences. It can be xuja only
if this guy is Kaafir!!. Next time please be advised to consider conforming
al-daliilu wal madluulu calayhi to save us time and energy.

By the way, if we follow your logic and the way you used this verse we
definetly ask you loud and surprise who he worships this guy?.
You may not dare to answer this question but if you do so please consult the
writing of this man.

Good luck

Ina Da'ud


>Mr.: Abdi Please take back those words, that you said out
>of Ignorance and respect our feelings and emotions.
>J.J.Jama
>

>>>Ina Da'ud wrote:
>
>>>Isn't Quran Kafaa bihi wacdan.


>>Dear Ina Da'ud,
>>I speak a good Somali, but quite frankly this is new
>>to me, can you please
>>explain the meaning of these words ;Kafa bixi
>>wacan ? Are you a Somali Abbo or
>>something ?
>

faadhyoon

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alhamdu lilaahi waxdah wasalaatu calaa man laa nabiya bacdah,
shahadada towxiid ee qofka danbiyada badan anfaceysaa waa shahaadada leh
shuruuda saxda ah oo aan laantood qofka anfaceyeen intuu rabo carabkiisa ha
ku yiraahdo.

shuruudu waa:
1-shardiga ku dhawaaqa:rasuulku wxu yiri salaalahu caleehi wasalam:(waxay
layku amray inaan dadka la dagaalamo ilaa ay markhaanti furaan ilaahay
maahee inaan ilaah kale jirin muxamed yahay rasulkii alle, salaadanaa
aqiiman zakadadana keenaan,hadaaay intaa smeeyaan way iga dhowrsadeen
dhiigooda iyo xoolahooda aan ahyn xaqa islaaamka xisaabtooduna ilaahay bay
jirtaa) mutafiq caleehi
nawawawi wxu yiri:wax ku jira in iimanku shardiguusu yahaylabada shahaado oo
la ogalaado lana ictiqaadohadana la ictiqaado wax kasta oo uu keenay
rasuulku salalahu caleehi wasalam.(nawawi calaa muslim1/221.
wxu ibntaymiyah yiri alle haw naxiirste:qofku hadaanu ku dhawaaqin isagoo
awoodi kara waa kaafir mulimiintu is ku raacsantahay,waana kafir kor iyo
hoos salfka agtooda iyo imaamada iyo jamaahirta culimada(majmuuc alfatawi
7/609)
2-shardiga ah inuu ku kufriyo daaquudka :daaquut ku waxa weeye wax kasta oo
la caabido ilaahay ahayn xataa qayb ka mida cibaadad isagoo raali ka ah
alle wuxu yiri:(qofkii ku kufriya daaquud ka ilaahayna aamina wuxu qabsaday
xarig adag9 alcurwa alwuthqa)oo aan goayn (laa in fisaama lahaa) allena waa
kii maqla oo caliim ah)
fahamka mukhalafadu ay na tusaysaa nusuusta sharciga ihi ,qofkii ilaahay
aamina laakiin aan ku kufriyin daaquutka ma uu qabasan xariga adag(alcurwa
alwuthqaa,mana la iman shahaado anfacaysa ama badbaadinaysa.
taas waxa cadeynay qoolkii rasuulka salaahu caleehi wasalam xadiiska uu soo
saaray muslim:(qofkii yiraahada laa ilaaha kufriyana waxa la caabido ilaahay
ka sokow waa xaraam xoolihiisu iyo dhiigisu xisaabtiisuna ilaahay bay
jirtaa))
wuxu yiri sheikh maxamed bin cabdilwahab:qoolkiisa(rasuulka)inuu ku kufriyo
waxa la caabido ilaahay ka sokow wuxu akidinayaa nafy,dhiigiisu xaraam ma
noqonayoiyo xoolihiisu hadaanu taas la iman,haduu shakiyo ama dibugurto ma
ilaalin dhiigiisa iyo xoolihiisa.)majmuucat altowxiid page35
waxan iri :sida qofka markhaanti fura ilaahay mooyee inaan ilaah kale
jirinlaakiin aan ku kufriyin dawaaqiida,waa sidii qof wax yiri iyo wxii ka
soo horjeeday is ku waqti,towxiid iyo shirk sida soomaliga la baxay
abdidhoof .
3-shardiga cilmiga ilaahay wuxu yiri(faclam anahu laa ilaaha ilaa
laah)moxamed 19 iyo qoolkii rasuulka salaahu caleehi wasalam xadiisku soo
saaray muslim:(qofkii dhinta isagoo aqoonsan ilaahay moo yee ilaaka kale
inaanu jirin wxu gelayaa janada).
xadiiska mafhuumkiisu waxa weeye qofkii dhinta isagoo aan aqoosanaynaan
ilaahay mooye inaan ilaaha kale jirin ma gelayo janada,waayo wuxuu ka
jahilay lamahuraan qalbigiisan kuma ictiqaadin,hadaan la ictiqaadin
towxiidkana waa gaalnimo aan khliaaf ka jirin
4-shardiga runta iyo ikhlaas:sida uu yiri rasuuku salaalhu caleehi wasalam
xadiiska uu soo saaray bukhari:ma jiro qof markhaanti furay ilaahay mooye
inaam ilaah kale jirin muxamedna rasuulkii ilaahay oo dhab ah kasoo goday
wadnihiisa oo aanu ilaahay ka xaraamtinaynayaa naarta)iyo qoolkii rasuulka
salaahu caleehi wasalam:(ku bishaaraysta uguna bishaaraya kuwa ini ka
dambeeya,qofkii markhaanti fura ilaahay moo yee inaan ilaah kale jirin oo
run ka sheekaya wuu galayaa janada.
xadiiska waxa la ga fahamyaa qofkii markhaanti fura ilaahay moo yee inaan
ilaah kale jirin oo ay ka tahay been iyo nifaaq aan run ahayn ,waa ahlu naar
janadana ma gelayo.
5-shardiga ah in laga waayo shaki alle wuxu yiri:(waxay yiraahdeen waa ku
kufrinay wax la idiin soo diray rasuladii waxa tiri ma ilaahay baa shaki leh
kii fadiray cirarka iyo dhulka)ibrahim 9-10
iyo qoolkii salaahu caleehi wasalam xadiiska uu soo saaray muslim:(shahado
inaan ilaahay mooye ilaahka kale jirin ana ahay rauulkiisi,adoonkasta oo
ilaahay kala hortaga aan ka shakisanayn wuu gelayaa janada).
mafhuumka xadiisku qofkii labada shahaado la yimaada oo ka shakisan ama wax
ku saabsan janada ma gelayo.
6-shardiga in la helo yaqiin:salalahu caleehi wasalam wuxu yiri xadiis oo
soo saaray muslim:(qofkii shahaado keena inaan ilaahy moo yee ilaah kale
jirin isagoo wadnihiisu yaqiinsanyahay ugu bishaaray janada.
waxa laga famaya taas qofkii laa ilaaha ilaa laah yiraahada aanse
yaqiinsanayn lawaazimteeda iyo mutadalbaadkeeda jano loogu bishaaran maayo
ahelkeedna ma aha.
7- shardiga jeceylka oo aan lahayn in yroo nacybanawxu ilaahay soo dejiyay
alle wuxi yiri:(wamina naasi man tatakhid min duuni allaah andaadan
yuxibuunahum ka xubi laah waladiina aamanuu ashadu xuban lilaah)albaqara
165.
allah wxu yiri:(qul in kaan aabaukum wa abnaaukum wa ikhwaanukum wa
azwaajukum wa cashiiratakum wa amwaalun iqtraftumuhaa wa tijaaratun
takhshoona kasaadahaa wa masaakinu tardoonahaa axabba ileekum mina allahi
wa rasuulih wa jihaadin fii sabiilih fatarabasuu xataa yatiya allahu biamrih
walallahu laa yahdii alqoom alfaasiqiin)toobah24.
alle wuxu kaloo yiri:(waladiina kafaruu fatacsan lahumwa adla
acmaalahum,dalika bianhum karihuu maa anzalalhu faxbada
acmaalahum)muxmad8-9.
ilaahay wuxu sabab uga dhigay gaalnimadooda iyo in la tirtiro camalkoodii
waxy ay naceen wuxuu ilaahay soo dejiyay, wuxu ilaahay soo dejiyay waxa ugu
fiican shahaadada towxiidka an laa ilaaha ilaa laah,qofkii naca ama
cadawadysta ,ama cadoow ka dhigta dadkeeda jeclaaadana kuwa cadawga u ah
wuxu ka mid yahay gaalada nacy wuxu ilaahay soo dejiyay.
waxa taas la mida qoolka ilaahay:(waxy yiraahdeen maalikoorabigaa hana
baabiyo wuxu ku yiri saa saad ku joogaysaan xaqii baan idiin keenay laakiin
saa ubadantihiin xaqa waa necebtihiin) zukhruf 78 sabab waxa loo ga dhigay
inay naarata jahanama ku waaraan inay xaqa ilaahay soo dejiyay nebcaayeen.
8-shardiga alridaa watasliim walinqiyaad(raali iyo isdhiib iyo uhogaansi
buuxa ilaahay wuxu yiri(falaa warabika laa yuuminuun xataa yuxakimuuk fiima
shajara beenahum thuma laayajiduu fii anfusihim xarajan mimaa qadeeta wa
yusalimuu tasliima)alnisaa65.
wuxu kaloo ala yiri:(yaa ayuha aladiina aamanuu laa tuqadimuu beena yadee
allahi warasuulih wa taqulaah ina allaha samiicun caliim,yaa ayuha aldiina
aamanu laa tarfacuu aswaatakum fooqa sooti nabiy walaa tajharuu lahu bil
qool kajahri bacdikum libacd an taxbada ac maalakum wa antumlaa
tashcuruun)alxujuraa 1-3.
allah wuxu yir:(wa maa kaana limumin walaa muimna idaa qada allahu
warasuuluh amran an yakuuna lahum alkhiiratu min amrihim)alaxzaab 36 alle
wuxu kaloo yiri :(faltaxdar aldiina yukhalifuuna can amrihi an tusiibahum
fitnah oa yusiibahum cadaabun aliim)alnuur 63
imaam axmed iyo kuwa kaleba min ahl cilm waxy ku fasireen alfitnah shirka
allah waxla barbardhigo allah wuxu yiri:(walfitnatu akbaru minal qatl)yacni
shirkiga iyo gaalnimada.
taas waxaa laga oganayaa qofkii ku hadla shahaada laa ilaaha ilalaah laakin
aan raali ka ahyn noloshiisa in uu ku dhaqmo oo manhaj ka dhigto aana isu
dhiibin una hogaansamin iyada iyo micnaheeda aana is ku xukumin qofkaasi ma
aha kuwa shahaadadu anfacayso maalinta qiyaamaha..
9_shardiga camalka iyada lagu camal falayo iyo lawaazimteeda :inuu ku camal
falo towxiidka shikigana ka fogaado kor iyo hoos ba allen taas ayuu ujeeda
markuu yiri:(wama umiruu ilaa liyacbuduu allah mukhlisiina lahu aldiina
xunafaa wa yuqiimuu alsalata wa yu'tuu zakata wadalika diinul
alqayima)albayinah 5
wuxu kaloo ilaahay yiri:(wamaa khalaqtu aljina wal insa ilaa
liyacbuduun)aldaariyat.

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