Quursugu Qiil Maleeyahay
bashir ali
> Any further comments or discussions in this topic will be highly
> appreciated and welcomed.
How about if we start with this:
"Mandkind! verily We created you of a male and female,
and We made you nations and tribes that you might know one
another. Verily, the most honourable of you near Allah is
that (believer) who has Taqwa.."(Qur'an 49:13)
"And it is He Who has created man from water,
and has appointed for him kindred by blood, and
kindred by marriage.."(Qur'an 25:54)
Bashir.
Mohamed Yusuf
Quursigu Qiil Ma Leeyahay
This article was discussed in BBC Somali service on last Three weeks and
participated by many Somali intellectuals, artists, poetess and experts
from various fields including both men and women.
In my opinion it was very interesting topic, I was amazed on the extent
which the BBC Somali service discussed this untouchable topic, which
enabled many participants to view their opinions and talk freely about it.
Every one of those who thought they were superior (aji) were blaming
unknown characters and encouraged to get rid of that bad habit whereas
others were asking to be accept as a normal citizens and were simply asking
others to discard
This barbaric tradition which has no base in our religion and also in the
secular society.
I learned from this discussion some views, that explained the origin of
some Somali clans and what make them what they are today.
Quursi (cast system) is disgraceful and baseless tradition, which has been
in existence in our society since in memorial.
Although Quursi (cast system) is a practice, which is as old as a mankind
on this planet. Different communities have different types of cast system
but ours has reduced some members of our community to a low esteemed and
full of inferiority complex.
In our case as a Somalis we should discard this but the question is how and
where do we start to dismantle this monster which has haunted and lived
with us for a long time?.
dird...@humberc.on.ca
bas...@worldnet.att.net wrote:
Mudane Bashiir:
Waxaad ku mahadsan tahay xusidda aayaadka Ilaahay. Waxay mar kale na
xusuusiinayaan in sababta Ilaahay, swt, Qura'aanka noogu soo dejiyay ay
tahay in haddaan Aadane nahay aynaan samaysan karin SYSTEM aan caddaalad iyo
barwaaqo ku gaari karno. Waxay kale oo na xusuusinayaan in Aadanuhu, culimo
iyo caamaba, ay ka dheeraadeen, dhihiddu yeelkeede, dhaqangelinta aayaadkaas.
Waxaan taas u lee yahay: Waynu aragnay wadaaddo ku wacdinaya, iyo kuwo ku
dagaallamayaba, in waddada Eebbe la raaco, miyaynuse aragnay wadaaddo ka
dagaaallamaya DULLIGAAN QUURSIGA, oo naf, maal, nasab, ama wax kale u huray
si ay u soo afjaraan dulligaas lagula kacay walaalaheen Muslim iyo Soomaaliba
nala sheegta? Ka warran, haddii wadaaddadu arrintaa kacaan ka samayn
lahaayeen, oo oran lahaayeen war si aynu dullinimadaan uga xorowno, rag iyo
dumarba aynu ka guursanno gayaankaas xaqdarrada loogu xukumay nasabdhimanka?
Sow maanta arrintaas QUURSIGU ma dhamaateen, oo wadaaddadu nooguma
libsheegteen in ay soo gunaanadeen dullinimo si kale u jiri lahayd?
Tixgelin,
Deeq A. Diiriye
> How about if we start with this:
>
> "Mandkind! verily We created you of a male and female,
> and We made you nations and tribes that you might know one
> another. Verily, the most honourable of you near Allah is
> that (believer) who has Taqwa.."(Qur'an 49:13)
>
> "And it is He Who has created man from water,
> and has appointed for him kindred by blood, and
> kindred by marriage.."(Qur'an 25:54)
>
> Bashir.
>
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Abdiwali M Ahmed
bashir ali (bas...@worldnet.att.net) writes:
> Mohamed Yusuf wrote:
>
>> Any further comments or discussions in this topic will be highly
>> appreciated and welcomed.
>
>
>
> "Mandkind! verily We created you of a male and female,
> and We made you nations and tribes that you might know one
> another. Verily, the most honourable of you near Allah is
> that (believer) who has Taqwa.."(Qur'an 49:13)
>
We have already told you to go back to school and study the
mystery of the "wow" in the verse. The "wow" in here is carrying
conjunctive message. Unequivocally and from what we see on the
plant, Allah created two categorises of people in a geographically
specified space. One people is composed of tribes, and the other is
a pure nation with without clans. In other words, the application of
verse can only make sense when you accept the reality that some
societies do exist without clans. Is Allah lying?
Mudane Mohamed Yusuf,
Thanks Allah, the media is at last jumping at the beauty of
clanless Somali society. We are a living proof that any Somali
can survive without seeking any assistance from the mythical
clan system or extending a helping hand whatsoever to their
former mythical clan members.
For the last 10 years, we have been training ourselves to forget
judiciously all mythical clan names and see Somalis as members of
one society that nature put them together to be citizens of one country,
one flag and one nation.
If we comment on how this corrupt system can be expunged from the
Somali blood system, off-hand, our recommendation is that the Somali
expatriates who have seen enough of how the governments conduct their
business and survive, and how the settled societies behave, should start
reevaluating themselves by asking tough questions about the beliefs of the
mythical clan system. We are putting the responsibility on the shoulders
of the Somali expatriates because their number has been growing
exponentially since the collapse of the Somali state. Call it expediency if
you want, but they are in position where they have no direct interest with
their mythical clans. Most of them are free to express their feelings without
fear and intimidation. They are an important economic engine for the people
back home, and through their dollars can take steps to make the influence
of the mythical clan less effective and harmless.
The leaders and organizers of the Somali expatriates must come out of
these Somalis who are trained economists or at least from those who
comprehend the broad principles of the discipline of economy. It has
been agreed on the more a person understands the economy of a country,
the more likely he/she sees and believes in the big picture.
Some people may argue this mythical clan system can not be defeated
in one generation. We say to those that Mohamed (CSWS) has changed
the lives of many generations forever. If you are a Moslem, you are
supposed to imitate the prophet and change the bad thing in one generation.
Out for now.
Ardaaga QabiilDiid......
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|Maaweello dhaqan++++Muslimoo ku hadli++++Afkeygaa macaan|
|Magacaa qabiil++++++Iska maydhayoo+++MABDA'WEYN KU SOCON|
| QabiilDiid: July'96 |
Ahmed Yusuf
Bashir's translation in this verse "nations and tribes" is the way we understand
this verse in our time, however, the actual meaning of "shucuuban wa qabaa'il is
"people and tribes." These descriptions "people=nation" and tribes (or clans) are
bestowed upon us by our Creator, however, the emphasis is to appreciate one
another rather than hate each other.
You see there was no nation state when the Quran was revealed. The rise of nation
state is a recent European phenomena that has caused untold destruction of
humanity. From the colonization of the people of color to the European wars of 19
th century and 1st & 2nd European wars (1914 & 1938). The god of nationalism is
dead and is being buried in Europe.
Your last sentence is totally inappropriate and it only shows your ignorance
about the aqeeda of a Muslim.
A word of advice, Abdiweli, try to make your movement compatible with Islam or it
will die a natural death. May be you should relable it Somali Anti-Clanism
(Casabiya) Society.
Ahmed Yusuf
Mohamed
bashir ali <bas...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in article
<6ouden$o...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>...
> Mohamed Yusuf wrote:
>
> > Any further comments or discussions in this topic will be highly
> > appreciated and welcomed.
>
>
> How about if we start with this:
>
> "Mandkind! verily We created you of a male and female,
> and We made you nations and tribes that you might know one
> another. Verily, the most honourable of you near Allah is
> that (believer) who has Taqwa.."(Qur'an 49:13)
>
Bashir
Thank you for your extreme and thoughtful comment, which is, based on the
last resort which no body who is a true believe can question
or add anything to it.
Bashir the bottom line is if Muslims practiced this verse
there could be no injustices and hard feelings in our community.
The question is that how come the cream of our society,
the Islamist, whom I assume you are one of them don't practice this verse,
Therefore bro. Bashir since we are the lights of our society we
should endeavor to set an example to our people and practice what our
countrymen consider a taboo,
That is we should be pioneers of intermarriages and go
beyond where no any Somali dared to.
Mohamed
Mohamed
Abdiwali M Ahmed <cy...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in article
<6p0atd$r...@freenet-news.carleton.ca>...
> If we comment on how this corrupt system can be expunged from the
> Somali blood system, off-hand, our recommendation is that the Somali
> expatriates who have seen enough of how the governments conduct their
> business and survive, and how the settled societies behave, should start
> reevaluating themselves by asking tough questions about the beliefs of
the
> mythical clan system. We are putting the responsibility on the shoulders
> of the Somali expatriates because their number has been growing
> exponentially since the collapse of the Somali state. Call it expediency
if
> you want, but they are in position where they have no direct interest
with
> their mythical clans. Most of them are free to express their feelings
without
> fear and intimidation. They are an important economic engine for the
people
> back home, and through their dollars can take steps to make the influence
> of the mythical clan less effective and harmless.
>
> The leaders and organizers of the Somali expatriates must come out of
> these Somalis who are trained economists or at least from those who
> comprehend the broad principles of the discipline of economy. It has
> been agreed on the more a person understands the economy of a country,
> the more likely he/she sees and believes in the big picture.
>
Abdiwali M Ahmed
It was very nice to hear from you . I appreciate your level
Of communication,
You are among those few setting an example for all of us
With your witty, sensible and
Intelligent writings, yet with such a depth that it reveals a far
More sophisticated mind than any of us thought possible.
I in great debt to you.
I doubt what we Somali expatriates which I certain that many of us been
adopted in evil costumes can contribute to discard that bad tradition.
I am sure is if we accept our religion as a whole that we can conquer all
evil things including Quursi .
Allah Subhanahu wata'alaa…
"O ye who believe! Enter into Islam whole-heartedly, and follow not the
footsteps
Of the Satan for he is to you an avowed enemy". S.2V.208
Bro. Only this short ayah can solve our problems without cast aside our
clans.
Mohamed
Mohamed
bashir ali
Bashir wrote:
> > How about if we start with this:
> > "Mankind! verily We created you of a male and female,
> > and We made you nations and tribes that you might know one
> > another. Verily, the most honourable of you near Allah is
> > that (believer) who has Taqwa.."(Qur'an 49:13)
> Bashir the bottom line is if Muslims practiced this verse
> there could be no injustices and hard feelings in our community.
You got that right, Mohamed, but if some Somali
Muslims would have practiced their religion,
they would not have said that tribal system is
a "barbaric tradition which has no base in our religion".
Mohamed, the fact that you are saying that tribe is
a "barbaric tradition" is not really practicing
Islam, because a tribe is something Allah created,
just as He created nations(shacuubo).
Now, you might say that people abuse the tribe itself
and therefore it is barbaric tradition. However, if tribe,
in itself, is a barbaric tradition and it is something that
people mishandle which in turn causes harm, what about
nations? As you know Mahamed, people misuse their
nationality also and a nationalism is something that causes
harm as well, but can you say that nationalism or nation
is barbaric tradition too?
> The question is that how come the cream of our society,
> the Islamist, whom I assume you are one of them don't
> practice this verse.
You assumed wrong, my brother. I am my own Islamist by practicing
Islam as much as I can and I follow no Islamist organization.
> Therefore bro. Bashir since we are the lights of our society we
> should endeavor to set an example to our people and practice what
> our countrymen consider a taboo,
As a Muslim, I am forbidden to consider something which Allah
created as taboo. Mohamed, if tribe were taboo, a prohibited
object or something not approved of by Allah, I would be the
first person to deny its existetence, but the fact is that Allah
made "nations and tribes" and I'm not going to set an example by
denying and saying Somalis do not have tribal differences.
> That is we should be pioneers of intermarriages and go
> beyond where no any Somali dared to.
Mohamed, intermarriages between tribes is a good thing, but
saying tribal existence is a "barbaric tradition" is not.
Bashir.
MUHAMMED HUSSEIN
>Sow maanta arrintaas QUURSIGU ma dhamaateen, oo wadaaddadu nooguma
>libsheegteen in ay soo gunaanadeen dullinimo si kale u jiri lahayd?
Mudane Dek,
Halkii la rabay baad ka taabatay Quursiga. Halganka Bulshayga ah weeye kan
xaqiiqda ku sugan. Waa JIHAAD baan odhan karaa hadduu Islaami dhalinyar uu
la xidido dad Soomaaliyeed oo la xaqiro. Islaamiga qoriga wata inta badan
wuxuu JIHAAD u yaqaan dagaalka bambooyinka, artilleriga, iwm. Islaamiga
wanaagsan waa qoraa qalin kula hirdamaya marinhabaabinta ilbaxnimada
Islaamiga ee ay maanta dunida badankeed ku istareexayso. Dumarka Islaamka
xuquuq hanti bay lahaayeen 1400kii sano ee la soo dhaafay, kuwa ingiriiska
boqol sano ka hor wax ka yar baa loo oggolaaday xuquuqdaa. Dumarka
Islaamka waxaa dulmiyay ragga Islaamka iyagoo adeegsanaya shuruuc aan
Islaami ahayn. Labo talo unbaa nala qumman:
a) Reer galbeed ha ku lib sheegto inuu quursiga Soomaali la dagaallamayo
oo aan u dayno isaga iyo ururadiisa tirada badan.
b) Innagu, waynu karnaaye, aynu howsha galno.
Doorashada hore waxay noo taswiiri dad aan awoodin inay dhaqankooda foosha
xun iyagu saxaan: Wuxuush (savages to be civilized!). Tan dambe waxay
muujin inaynu nahay bulsho awood u leh inay iyagu noloshooda hagaajistaan.
Ta hore waxay keeni in bulshada Soomaaliyeed ay nuugaan bulshooyinka ku
heeran ama kuwa ka fogba. Waqtigu aad buu noogu yar yahay and "Doomsday is
near" ;-). Aan isdaba qabanno baa ila habboon, Islaami oo kaliyana yaynaan
ku hellayn howshan muhiimka ah.
--
<Udub ?>
bashir ali
> Waxaan taas u lee yahay: Waynu aragnay wadaaddo ku wacdinaya, iyo kuwo ku
> dagaallamayaba, in waddada Eebbe la raaco,
Deeqoow, haddii wadaado ama kuwa aad wadaado ahayn ku yiraahdaan
anaga na raac, waxaad ku tiraahdaa, Ilaahay iyo Diintiisa kaliya
ayaa mudan in la' raacdo.
> miyaynuse aragnay wadaaddo ka
> dagaaallamaya DULLIGAAN QUURSIGA, oo naf, maal, nasab, ama wax kale u huray
> si ay u soo afjaraan dulligaas lagula kacay walaalaheen Muslim iyo Soomaaliba
> nala sheegta? Ka warran, haddii wadaaddadu arrintaa kacaan ka samayn
> lahaayeen, oo oran lahaayeen war si aynu dullinimadaan uga xorowno, rag iyo
> dumarba aynu ka guursanno gayaankaas xaqdarrada loogu xukumay nasabdhimanka?
> Sow maanta arrintaas QUURSIGU ma dhamaateen, oo wadaaddadu nooguma
> libsheegteen in ay soo gunaanadeen dullinimo si kale u jiri lahayd?
Deeqow, haddii uu wadaad iyo mid aan wadaad ahayn ay duloobeen, qabiilna
ku dagaaltamaan, waa ay qaldan yihiin, iyaga iyo Ilaahayna wa sugayaan
aakhiro.
Laakiin haddii aad la dagaalantid wadaad iyo mid aan wadaad ahayn markii
ay kuu sheegaan in uu qabiil Ilaahay abuuray, waad qaldan tahay, adiga
iyo Ilaahayna waad isi sigaysaan aakhiro.
Bashir.
Abdi Daud
>
>In article <6p0gag$tpp$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com> dird...@humberc.on.ca writes:
>
>>Sow maanta arrintaas QUURSIGU ma dhamaateen, oo wadaaddadu nooguma
>>libsheegteen in ay soo gunaanadeen dullinimo si kale u jiri lahayd?
Mr Deeq, af xidhka dhaqankan qallafasan waxaa uu baahan yahay inay dadka oo
dhan ka dab qaataan Islaamka. Markaynu Islaamka ka dhiganno horyaalka
nolosheenna iyo mid qaabeeya hab u fikirkayaga waxaa noo suurtoobi doonta
inaynu soo af xidhno dhaqanka lagula dhaqmo dadkan waxban galbsan ee geedka
lagu xidhay, waxaa kale oo albaada loo xidhi lahaa dhaqammo badan oo xidhiidh
raad ku lahayn qaybo badan oo noloshayada ka mid ah.
>Mudane Dek,
>
>Halkii la rabay baad ka taabatay Quursiga. Halganka Bulshayga ah weeye kan
>xaqiiqda ku sugan. Waa JIHAAD baan odhan karaa hadduu Islaami dhalinyar uu
>la xidido dad Soomaaliyeed oo la xaqiro. Islaamiga qoriga wata inta badan
>wuxuu JIHAAD u yaqaan dagaalka bambooyinka, artilleriga, iwm. Islaamiga
>wanaagsan waa qoraa qalin kula hirdamaya marinhabaabinta ilbaxnimada
>Islaamiga ee ay maanta dunida badankeed ku istareexayso.
Mr Udub, waxaa jiray dad Islamist ah oo Soomaaliyeed oo sanadihii qadhaadhaa
isku dayay inay wax ka qabtaan arinkaasi oo guursaday dumar badan oo geed lagu
xidhay.
> Dumarka Islaamka
>xuquuq hanti bay lahaayeen 1400kii sano ee la soo dhaafay, kuwa ingiriiska
>boqol sano ka hor wax ka yar baa loo oggolaaday xuquuqdaa.
Well said, welina waxaa jira dumar yar oo Soomaliyeed oo maskaxda laga xalay oo
weli rumeysan qubadda baarlaamka reer galbeedka xuquuqdooda u soo celin karta
iyaga oo iska indha tiraya taariikhda dheer ee islaamku siiyay xuuquuqdooda.
>Dumarka
>Islaamka waxaa dulmiyay ragga Islaamka iyagoo adeegsanaya shuruuc aan
>Islaami ahayn.
I agree and most are Somali seculars.
>Labo talo unbaa nala qumman:
>
>a) Reer galbeed ha ku lib sheegto inuu quursiga Soomaali la dagaallamayo
> oo aan u dayno isaga iyo ururadiisa tirada badan.
>b) Innagu, waynu karnaaye, aynu howsha galno.
>
>Doorashada hore waxay noo taswiiri dad aan awoodin inay dhaqankooda foosha
>xun iyagu saxaan: Wuxuush (savages to be civilized!). Tan dambe waxay
>muujin inaynu nahay bulsho awood u leh inay iyagu noloshooda hagaajistaan.
>Ta hore waxay keeni in bulshada Soomaaliyeed ay nuugaan bulshooyinka ku
>heeran ama kuwa ka fogba. Waqtigu aad buu noogu yar yahay and "Doomsday is
>near" ;-). Aan isdaba qabanno baa ila habboon, Islaami oo kaliyana yaynaan
>ku hellayn howshan muhiimka ah.
Haddii aynaan isa sixin cidna nooma maqna ceelna nooma qodna.
Ina Da'ud
>--
><Udub ?>
>
>
Mohamed
bashir ali <bas...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in article
<6p2795$m...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>...
Bashir
I think you misunderstood what I was trying to clarify
When I said "this barbaric tradition has no base in our religion" I didn't
Disown our tribal system but simply the cast system whereby we
discriminated each other and thus feel superior or inferior to some clans.
> > The question is that how come the cream of our society,
> > the Islamist, whom I assume you are one of them don't
> > practice this verse.
>
>
> You assumed wrong, my brother. I am my own Islamist by practicing
> Islam as much as I can and I follow no Islamist organization.
If I tell you, you are an Islamist I didn't mean you belong or identify
yourself which certain Islamist organization or sect. But because I have
seen you base your views in an Islamic light, which in what every Muslim
should be expected to do.
I have rough idea what those people who communicate in the SCS believe,
that is, Islamist, Moderates, seculars, and atheist.
by the way, bro. What is wrong with the Islamist organizations?
what do you mean "my own islamist"?
> saying tribal existence is a "barbaric tradition" is not.
bashir I didn't say that.
Mohamed yusuf
bashir ali
> > Bashir wrote:
> > > > How about if we start with this:
> > > > "Mankind! verily We created you of a male and female,
> > > > and We made you nations and tribes that you might know one
> > > > another. Verily, the most honorable of you near Allah is
> > > > that (believer) who has Taqwa.."(Qur'an 49:13)
> > > Bashir the bottom line is if Muslims practiced this verse
> > > there could be no injustices and hard feelings in our community.
> > You got that right, Mohamed, but if some Somali
> > Muslims would have practiced their religion,
> > they would not have said that tribal system is
> > a "barbaric tradition which has no base in our religion".
> Bashir
> I think you misunderstood what I was trying to clarify
> When I said "this barbaric tradition has no base in our religion" I didn't
> Disown our tribal system but simply the cast system whereby we
> discriminated each other and thus feel superior or inferior to some clans.
Sorry Mahamed, I thought you were
saying(like some people in this newsgroup),
we do not have tribal system in our society
and that Allah did not intended Somalis to become
tribal society.
> > > The question is that how come the cream of our society,
> > > the Islamist, whom I assume you are one of them don't
> > > practice this verse.
> > You assumed wrong, my brother. I am my own Islamist by practicing
> > Islam as much as I can and I follow no Islamist organization.
> If I tell you, you are an Islamist I didn't mean you belong or identify
> yourself which certain Islamist organization or sect.
Well, I do not know how many Islamist organizations there
are in Somalia and certainly, I am not one of the ones you
said "don't practice this verse"
> But because I have seen you base your views in an Islamic
> light, which in what every Muslim should be expected to do.
Yes, every Muslim should base his or her views in an
Islamic light, including you and I.
> I have rough idea what those people who communicate in
> the SC. believe, that is, Islamism, Moderates, seculars,
> and atheist.
I too have sometimes difficult with differentiating where
people base on their views from and I wish whenever anyone
posting or airing his or her views on this newsgroups tell
us where he or she is coming from.
> by the way, bro. What is wrong with the Islamist organizations?
Mahamed, there is something wrong with the Islamist you assumed that
I am "one of them", especially when you said, they "don't practice
this verse", the above one.
> what do you mean "my own islamist"?
As I said, I do not belong to or identify with any
"Islamist Organization, especially, the ones you said
"do not practice" Islam, so I am my own Islamist "practicing
Islam as much as I can", especially the verse above.
> > saying tribal existence is a "barbaric tradition" is not.
> bashir I didn't say that.
I stand corrected.
Bashir.
MUHAMMED HUSSEIN
abdi...@aol.com (Abdi Daud) writes:
>Mr Udub, waxaa jiray dad Islamist ah oo Soomaaliyeed oo sanadihii qadhaadhaa
>isku dayay inay wax ka qabtaan arinkaasi oo guursaday dumar badan oo geed lagu
>xidhay.
Mudane Ina Da'ud,
Aad baan ugu farxay tallaabada ay qaadeen Islaamyahannadu (Islamists).
Waxaa kaloo habboon inay bulshada inteeda kalana ka qayb qaataan. Waa
fikrad mudan in la shaac bixiyo iyadoo la adeegsanayo durdurrada
warhelidda (channels of communication) ee ay ka midka yihiin
xayaysiisyada, qoraallada, wargeysyada, iwm. Diinla'aha Soomaaliyeed
(Somali secular) fikirkiisu waa mid qurracan inta badan. Ififaalaha
Dowliga Soomaaliyeed ee berri haddii ayna ku salaysnayn ama ay hirdiyayso
dhaqan-dhaqaalaha Islaamiga waa hubaal in ay qaran dumin ku biyo shubi
doonto fikri qofeedka Soomaaliga. Tummaatiga iyo turunturrada ay keenaan
garasho ku salaysan Yuurooamerikaan kana madhan diidmo gudeed waxay
jiritaanka bulsho ka tuuri dawyo ka soo noqodkoodu adag yahay. Sideedana
bulsho aan karin dhaliil iyo isdhaliil in la nuugo ma dhib badna! Dhaqanka
Islaamigu waa mid ka guulaystay tijaabooyin adag. Waan qabaa in lagu daro
barashada habdhis Soomaaliyeed qaddarinka doorka ah ee ay mudan tahay
fikri Islaami ah.
Tixgelin,
--
<Udub ?>
Abdiwali M Ahmed
Ahmed Yusuf (stor...@interramp.com) writes:
>Bashir's translation in this verse "nations and tribes" is the way we
>understand this verse in our time, however, the actual meaning of
>"shucuuban wa qabaa'il is "people and tribes." These descriptions
>"people=nation" and tribes or clans) arebestowed upon us by our Creator,
>however, the emphasis is to appreciate one another rather than hate each
>other.
But, do you still agree that there is two parallel concepts in this verse?
One being people=nation and one being tribes(or clans)? Or Do you still
believe the wadaad Somali standard translation of the 3-stage metamorphosis
of human creation? To elaborate this for the interested reader, this
translation of the verse says simplisticly that Allah creates you firstly
from families(households); then out of families he creates tribes; then out
of tribes he creates people=nations. Do you agree this or you don't?
>You see there was no nation state when the Quran was revealed.
Even if we assume that no nation state at that time, are you implying
that Allah has no predictive qualities and that he had no preknowlege
of the present world where there is nation-estate governments in every
corner of the globe. Is not the Quran supposed to be valid in all times
and at all places?
>The rise of nation
>state is a recent European phenomena that has caused untold destruction of
>humanity. From the colonization of the people of color to the European wars
of 19 >th century and 1st & 2nd European wars (1914 & 1938). The god of
>nationalism is dead and is being buried in Europe.
Nationalism is well and alive. It is flourishing in every corner of the
world. It is the engine that runs each and every state on the planet. The
only concept that can replace it is what is called The World Government
where every human being no matter where he is born can reside and work in
any spot on the planet. We guess that is what Islam believes, too, but it
is not realizable until the Europeans colonize Mars or other planets and
migrate from mother Earth.
>Your last sentence is totally inappropriate and it only shows your ignorance
>about the aqeeda of a Muslim.
You sound the typical Somali wadaad or traditional sheihk that sees
the Quran through only the "green" spectacles constructed by some self-serving
Islamic jurists centuries ago.
>A word of advice, Abdiweli, try to make your movement compatible with
>Islam or it
>will die a natural death. May be you should relable it Somali Anti-Clanism
>(Casabiya) Society.
Sir, this is called Somali Anti-Clan Society whose mission is to dismantle
the Somali mythical tribal system. This is completely compatible with Islam.
If the Ardaaga QabiilDiid philosophy dies you are the second victim, because
Somalia and Somalis are in an infirmary, and the magic cure is formulated
only in the labs of this Society as far as we know. However, be assured of
one thing, this movement can die a natural death with the mentioned
consequences, but it will not die of anything else.
Ardaaga QabiilDiid......
>Ahmed Yusuf
Abdiwali M Ahmed
bashir ali (bas...@worldnet.att.net) writes:
>Deeqoow, haddii wadaado ama kuwa aad wadaado ahayn ku yiraahdaan
>anaga na raac, waxaad ku tiraahdaa, Ilaahay iyo Diintiisa kaliya
>ayaa mudan in la' raacdo.
Maxaa dhacay? Wadaadku soo maaha qofka wakiilka ka ah diinta oo gacanta
ku haya fidinteeda iyo daryeelkeeda. Teeda kale, haddii uu qof aan wadaad
ahayn uu ku tuso waxa wanaag iyo maslaxadi ku jirto, mi uusan mudneyn in
aad raacdo?
> miyaynuse aragnay wadaaddo ka
> dagaaallamaya DULLIGAAN QUURSIGA, oo naf, maal, nasab, ama wax kale u huray
>si ay u soo afjaraan dulligaas lagula kacay walaalaheen Muslim iyo Soomaaliba
> nala sheegta? Ka warran, haddii wadaaddadu arrintaa kacaan ka samayn
> lahaayeen, oo oran lahaayeen war si aynu dullinimadaan uga xorowno, rag iyo
> dumarba aynu ka guursanno gayaankaas xaqdarrada loogu xukumay nasabdhimanka?
> Sow maanta arrintaas QUURSIGU ma dhamaateen, oo wadaaddadu nooguma
> libsheegteen in ay soo gunaanadeen dullinimo si kale u jiri lahayd?
>Deeqow, haddii uu wadaad iyo mid aan wadaad ahayn ay duloobeen, qabiilna
>ku dagaaltamaan, waa ay qaldan yihiin, iyaga iyo Ilaahayna wa sugayaan
>aakhiro.
Halkan gacmo taag bay kaa tahay! Aakhiro adiga uun baa isbedbaadinaya.
Maxaad isku weydiin weyday waxa duleeyay wadaadka iyo kaan wadaadka ahayn
oo aad ugu dhabagaliweyd walaxa kharibey waxna aad uga qaban weyday?
>Laakiin haddii aad la dagaalantid wadaad iyo mid aan wadaad ahayn markii
>ay kuu sheegaan in uu qabiil Ilaahay abuuray, waad qaldan tahay, adiga
>iyo Ilaahayna waad isi sigaysaan aakhiro.
Ilaahay umada Soomaaliyeed uma abuurin hab iyo hanaan qabiil ee waxa uu ka
dhigay ummadda qura. Garashada ay garan la'yihiin in aysan qabiilo aheyn oo
ay iska raacayaan hanaanka badawiga Carbeed, ayaa keenta in ay xaalladdoodu
ku sugnaato mid u dhow baa'ba. Illaah quraankiisa wuu ku caddeeyay in uu
aadamiga labo siyaabood u abuuray: dad uu umad ka dhigay IYO dad uu qabiillo
ka dhigay. Haddii aad abuurka sidan ah diidana adiga ayaa u dhow in aad
seegto Ilaah maalinta yooma qiyaamo.
Ardaaga QabiilDiid......
>Bashir.
Abdi Daud
>abdi...@aol.com (Abdi Daud) writes:
>
>>Mr Udub, waxaa jiray dad Islamist ah oo Soomaaliyeed oo sanadihii qadhaadhaa
>>isku dayay inay wax ka qabtaan arinkaasi oo guursaday dumar badan oo geed
>lagu
>>xidhay.
>
>
>Mudane Ina Da'ud,
>
>Aad baan ugu farxay tallaabada ay qaadeen Islaamyahannadu (Islamists).
>Waxaa kaloo habboon inay bulshada inteeda kalana ka qayb qaataan. Waa
>fikrad mudan in la shaac bixiyo iyadoo la adeegsanayo durdurrada
>warhelidda (channels of communication) ee ay ka midka yihiin
>xayaysiisyada, qoraallada, wargeysyada, iwm.
Mudane Udub,
Waa fikrad wacan oo loo baahan yahay in lagu dhaqaaqo waayo raggaasi isku dayay
caynkaasi waxay mudan yihiin dhiirrigelin iyo qaddarin dheeraan. Waxay kaloo
mudan yihiin in lagala qayb qaato dabar goynta dhaqankaasi caynkaasi ah.
>Diinla'aha Soomaaliyeed
>(Somali secular) fikirkiisu waa mid qurracan inta badan.
Thank you for your keen observation.
>Ififaalaha
>Dowliga Soomaaliyeed ee berri haddii ayna ku salaysnayn ama ay hirdiyayso
>dhaqan-dhaqaalaha Islaamiga waa hubaal in ay qaran dumin ku biyo shubi
>doonto fikri qofeedka Soomaaliga.
Tummaatiga iyo turunturrada ay keenaan
>garasho ku salaysan Yuurooamerikaan kana madhan diidmo gudeed waxay
>jiritaanka bulsho ka tuuri dawyo ka soo noqodkoodu adag yahay. Sideedana
>bulsho aan karin dhaliil iyo isdhaliil in la nuugo ma dhib badna! Dhaqanka
>Islaamigu waa mid ka guulaystay tijaabooyin adag. Waan qabaa in lagu daro
>barashada habdhis Soomaaliyeed qaddarinka doorka ah ee ay mudan tahay
>fikri Islaami ah.
>
Hadalkaasi wacan waad ku mahadsan tahay.
Ina Da'ud
>Tixgelin,
>--
><Udub ?>
>
>
Dek Dirie
Waxaad mooddaa in ay ku habboonayd, in aadan ka qaybqaadan doodaha SCSta
haddiiba aadan haleeleyn in aad la qabsato sida jaantu u dhacayso, oo ah mid
degdeg iyo is dabayaal ah. Oo waxaad halis u noqon in aad ku sifowdo
gadaal-ka-gaarkii goobdumiska lagu sheegay. Anoo taas ku sii cudurdaaranaya,
dhabqisna aan maagganayn, ayaa waxaan jeclahay in aan doodda wax ku sii
darsado:
Waa hagaag! Waa dhab oo waa muhiim in arrinta QUURSIGA wax laga qabto. Weliba,
sida Macallin Udub qeexay, sida ugu dhakhsaha badan, iyada oo aan culimo iyo
caamaba loo kala harayn. Anoo taa idinku waafaqsan, ayaa waxaan weli soo
qaddimayaa WADAADDADA, labo sababood awgood:
Waa mare, aragtida wadaaddadu waa ISLAM, oo waa aragti Ilaahi ah, oo dabcan
ka door roon mid kasta oo dadsamee ah. Saas oy tahayse, waxaan tuhunsanahay
in wadaaddadu "Saaxibu Nisyah" yihiin, oo ay ka gaabin karaan fahanka iyo
dhaqangelinta aragtidaa Ilaahiga ah, waa Qur'aankee. Saas aawadeedna, waxaan
is tusiyay in aan Wadaaddada ku baraarujiyo in ay geesmareen amaba garbiyeen
arrin wax ka qabashadeedu mudnaan lahayd.
Waa markeeda kalee, laga soo bilaabo halgankii daraawiishta, haddiiba,
dalkeena, ay aragtiyi, cimri iyo cawaaqib yeelatayba, waxaa horkacayay
wadaad, lahaa: "WAR ILAAHAY KA BAQA!" Waxaynuna maanta ognahay, in ay jiraan
dhallinyaro himadooda, hubkooda, iyo hantidoodaba ku jiheeyay in ay dalka ku
jideeyaan Jidkii Alle. Iyagaas, oo aan rajada biday, baan jeclaystay in aan
xusuusiyo in aan u dullownay dulmi, iska-qaadiddiisu aanay KURSI u baahnayn!
Hadaba, Wadaaddow, haddaad, sida Ina Da'ud, na leedihiin wadaaddadu
kaalintoodii waa ka soo dhalaaleen, oo arrintaan QUURSIGA wax bay ka qabteen.
Inta foorinno baa waxaan idin leenahay: "VOCIO!" Oo saad u dhamaydeen Axmad
Cali Cigaal baa idinka cod dheeraa.
Haddaad, sida Bashiir, na leedihiin Ilaahay baa sida noo xukumay, waxaan idin
leenahay: "CUQDIIN IYO CAWRADIIN! ISLA HELA CURAAFAHA"
Tixgelin,
Deeq
In article <6p2816$l...@portal.gmu.edu>,
mhus...@osf1.gmu.edu (MUHAMMED HUSSEIN) wrote:
> In article <6p0gag$tpp$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com> dird...@humberc.on.ca writes:
>
> >Sow maanta arrintaas QUURSIGU ma dhamaateen, oo wadaaddadu nooguma
> >libsheegteen in ay soo gunaanadeen dullinimo si kale u jiri lahayd?
>
> Mudane Dek,
>
> Halkii la rabay baad ka taabatay Quursiga. Halganka Bulshayga ah weeye kan
> xaqiiqda ku sugan. Waa JIHAAD baan odhan karaa hadduu Islaami dhalinyar uu
> la xidido dad Soomaaliyeed oo la xaqiro. Islaamiga qoriga wata inta badan
> wuxuu JIHAAD u yaqaan dagaalka bambooyinka, artilleriga, iwm. Islaamiga
> wanaagsan waa qoraa qalin kula hirdamaya marinhabaabinta ilbaxnimada
> Islaamiga ee ay maanta dunida badankeed ku istareexayso. Dumarka Islaamka
> xuquuq hanti bay lahaayeen 1400kii sano ee la soo dhaafay, kuwa ingiriiska
> boqol sano ka hor wax ka yar baa loo oggolaaday xuquuqdaa. Dumarka
> Islaamka waxaa dulmiyay ragga Islaamka iyagoo adeegsanaya shuruuc aan
> Islaami ahayn. Labo talo unbaa nala qumman:
>
> a) Reer galbeed ha ku lib sheegto inuu quursiga Soomaali la dagaallamayo
> oo aan u dayno isaga iyo ururadiisa tirada badan.
> b) Innagu, waynu karnaaye, aynu howsha galno.
>
> Doorashada hore waxay noo taswiiri dad aan awoodin inay dhaqankooda foosha
> xun iyagu saxaan: Wuxuush (savages to be civilized!). Tan dambe waxay
> muujin inaynu nahay bulsho awood u leh inay iyagu noloshooda hagaajistaan.
> Ta hore waxay keeni in bulshada Soomaaliyeed ay nuugaan bulshooyinka ku
> heeran ama kuwa ka fogba. Waqtigu aad buu noogu yar yahay and "Doomsday is
> near" ;-). Aan isdaba qabanno baa ila habboon, Islaami oo kaliyana yaynaan
> ku hellayn howshan muhiimka ah.
>
> --
> <Udub ?>
bashir ali
> bashir wrote:
> >Deeqoow, haddii wadaado ama kuwa aad wadaado ahayn ku yiraahdaan
> >anaga na raac, waxaad ku tiraahdaa, Ilaahay iyo Diintiisa kaliya
> >ayaa mudan in la' raacdo.
> Maxaa dhacay?
Waxabana.
> Wadaadku soo maaha qofka wakiilka ka ah diinta oo gacanta
> ku haya fidinteeda iyo daryeelkeeda.
Wakiil adiga ayaa iska ah, wadaadkana tiisa ayuu leeyahay.
Diinta Ilaahay cidkaa xigta majirto haddii aad Muslim tahay,
fidinteedana waa kugu waajib adigana, waloolow Aaya.
> Teeda kale, haddii uu qof aan wadaad ahayn uu ku tuso
> waxa wanaag iyo maslaxadi ku jirto, mi uusan mudneyn in
> aad raacdo?
Qof aan wadaad ahayn haddii uu wax wanaagsan kuu sheego,
isaga ma'aha in aad raacdo ee waxa uu kuu sheegay ayaa
la raacdaa. Bini Aadanka raacashadiisa ma wanaagsana.
> >Deeqow, haddii uu wadaad iyo mid aan wadaad ahayn ay duloobeen, qabiilna
> >ku dagaaltamaan, waa ay qaldan yihiin, iyaga iyo Ilaahayna isi sugayaan
> >aakhiro.
> Halkan gacmo taag bay kaa tahay! Aakhiro adiga uun baa isbedbaadinaya.
Naxariista Ilaahay iyo camal wanaagsan ayaa lagu badbaadaa Aakhiro.
> Maxaad isku weydiin weyday waxa duleeyay wadaadka iyo kaan wadaadka ahayn
> oo aad ugu dhabagaliweyd walaxa kharibey waxna aad uga qaban weyday?
Wixii qabiil iyo wadaninimo ku dagaal tama waa ay qaldan yihiim, wax
iswaydiina
malaha, dabagalna malaha, meel laga qabtana majoogin.
> >Laakiin haddii aad la dagaalantid wadaad iyo mid aan wadaad ahayn markii
> >ay kuu sheegaan in uu qabiil Ilaahay abuuray, waad qaldan tahay, adiga
> >iyo Ilaahayna waad isi sigaysaan aakhiro.
> Ilaahay umada Soomaaliyeed uma abuurin hab iyo hanaan qabiil ee waxa uu ka
> dhigay ummadda qura. Garashada ay garan la'yihiin in aysan qabiilo aheyn oo
> ay iska raacayaan hanaanka badawiga
Noo sheeg meesha aad ku aragtey in uu Ilaahay ummada Somaaliyeed
usan ka abuurin qabaa'ilo? Hana ilaawin Aayada nambarkeeda.
> Illaah quraankiisa wuu ku caddeeyay in uu
> aadamiga labo siyaabood u abuuray: dad uu umad ka dhigay IYO dad uu qabiillo
> ka dhigay.
Meesha uu Ilaahay cadeeyey in Soomalida uga dhigin qabaailo, waa meeshii
Quraanka?
> Haddii aad abuurka sidan ah diidana adiga ayaa u dhow in aad
> seegto Ilaah maalinta yooma qiyaamo.
Adigana haddii aa sheegi kari la'dahay meeshii uu Ilaahay uga
reebay in qabaa'ilo leeyihiin Soomalida, qumanahaadaa qoorta kuugu jira.
Bashir.
bashir ali
>
> Dek Dirie wrote:
>
> > Haddaad, sida Bashiir, na leedihiin Ilaahay baa sida noo xukumay, waxaan idin
> > leenahay: "CUQDIIN IYO CAWRADIIN! ISLA HELA CURAAFAHA"
>
> habaartan, cuqdiimo waxaa ah nin ka soo horjeesta xaqa bini
> aadamka, laakiin taas waxaa ka cuqdiimo badan ninkii beeneeya
> xukunka Ilaahay.
>
> "Waxaan idin ka dhignay shacuubo iyo qabiilo si aad isku ogaataan"
>
> Bashir.
Deeq, iga raali noqo, magaca deeq ayaan si qalada u qorey.
bashir ali
Abdi Daud
Waar Deeqow Vocio maxay ahayd?. Anigu waxaan idhi qudha dad si serious wax uga
qabtay ayaa jiray sanadihii 92 iyo.93gii oo dumar badan oo geed ku xidhnaa ka
furay. Isku daygaa caynkaasi waxaa uu dhaliyay dareen islaami iyo yididiilo
wayn oo haddii ay sii taabbo qaadi lahayd midho fiican yeelan kari lahayd.
Codka Ina Cigaal dhawaali qaban waa aqalkii deriskiisa ahaa. Xusiddiisu xiiso u
yeel ee culays wayn malahayn waayo markii lagu yeedhiyay siidhigii waa kan ka
caray his off springs isagii oo aan cashiiqaddiisa wax ogaysiin.
Anyway, tirtirsiintu waa mid wanaagsan.
>Haddaad, sida Bashiir, na leedihiin Ilaahay baa sida noo xukumay, waxaan idin
>leenahay: "CUQDIIN IYO CAWRADIIN! ISLA HELA CURAAFAHA"
>
>Tixgelin,
>Deeq
>
>
A.MohamudOmar
Quursigu Qiil ma leeyahey: Waxaan filayaa in qof walbaa uu ogyahey in bulsho
isu baahan tahey oo eysan marna kala maarmin iyo in qof kasto oo bulshadaa ka
mid ah uusan jecleyn in hoos loo eego sinaba laakiin waxaa dhacdey in umada
muslimiin ah oo weliba ah dadka ugu wanaagsan la xaqiro xuquuqooda qarniyo aad
u fara badan inkastoo weli umadda s/liyeed oo sheegato iney 100% muslim tahey
eey ku sii socdaan wax eey jaahilnimo ku qasabtey taasoo dhibaato uurkutaalo
leh ku ah bulsho mulimiin ah oo wax haba yaraatee dhibaato ah geysan. Waa
nasiibdarro in eynu muddo intaa le'eg eeynu indhaha ka qarsaneyney inagoo mar
walbo is xejineyna dhaqankaan xun ee aan loo dul qaadan karin. U maleynmaayo
in qof inaga inaka mid ah uu hal saac u adkeysan karo xanuunkaas kaas oo u
muuqdo mid eeysan soomalidu diyaar u aheyn in eey wax ka qabtaan inaakstoo
breyhaaan aad looga hadlo haddana ma jiro xal la isku raacey si wax looga
qabto dhamaanba qeybaha kala duwan ee bulsahada s/liyeed laakiin waxaa
cadaatey in eynu aad u qaladanahey dhinac kasto loona baahan yahey in la isa
saxo si deg deg ah. Hadaba su'aashu waxey tahey sidee looga bixi karaa
mugdigaan lagu jiro oo looga dhaahdicin karaa bulsho caadeysatey dhaqankaan
aan salka laheyn? Waxey ila tahey ineynu isku daalineyno hadii eeynu soo
jeedino fikrado kala duduwan isla mar ahaantaana eeynaan waxbo ka qaban
arintaan cudurku ku noqtey bulsho aan eed iyo danbi midna gelin. Anigu waxaan
aaminsanahay in arintaan si xilkasnimo ah wax looga qabana karo iyadoo lala
kaashanaayo culimada diinta iyo odayaasha qabaa'ilka soomaalida oo aan u arko
in eey wax weyn ka bedeli karaan arintaan oo kale. Hadii eeynu iska hadalno oo
eeynaan arinta si toos ah u abaarin waxaan filayaa in waqti inakkaga
dhamaayo wax aan micno laheyn.
A.M.Omar
Abdiwali M Ahmed
bashir ali (bas...@worldnet.att.net) writes:
> Dek Dirie wrote:
>
>> Haddaad, sida Bashiir, na leedihiin Ilaahay baa sida noo xukumay, waxaan idin
>> leenahay: "CUQDIIN IYO CAWRADIIN! ISLA HELA CURAAFAHA"
>
> habaartan, cuqdiimo waxaa ah nin ka soo horjeesta xaqa bini
> aadamka, laakiin taas waxaa ka cuqdiimo badan ninkii beeneeya
> xukunka Ilaahay.
>
> "Waxaan idin ka dhignay shacuubo iyo qabiilo si aad isku ogaataan"
Orod diinta Ilaahay si fiican u soo baro. Ilaahay dadka waxa uu ka dhigay
labo kooxood: Koox shacuubo ah IYO koox qabaa'il ah; naxwahana qalladka ka
dhaaf.
Ardaaga QabiilDiid.....
Mohamed
Dek Dirie <dird...@humberc.on.ca> wrote in article
<6p8a9d$m22$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
> Mudane Udub, Daa'uud, Bashiir, Cabdiweli, Maxamed, iyo Ikyaarta kaleba:
Deeq.
> Waa hagaag! Waa dhab oo waa muhiim in arrinta QUURSIGA wax laga qabto.
Weliba,
> sida Macallin Udub qeexay, sida ugu dhakhsaha badan, iyada oo aan culimo
iyo
> caamaba loo kala harayn.
Ma ogtahay deeqow sidaadoo kale sidaydookale iyo ragga Doodan ka qaybqaatay
Iyo kuwii Bbcda dooddaan ku lafa guray iyo dhammaan soomaali gebi
ahaanteedba
Noocuu doonaba ha ahaadee waxay sheegeen in quursigu yahay dhaqan khaldan
oo in la titiro u baahan, arrintanu waxay u baahantahy oo kali ah illeen
warlord kuma xidhnee
in qof kastaaba qalbigiisa ka sifeeyo ee hadii gabar jeclaadana guursado
haddii laga soo doonana shuruuhada islaamku ku xiray eego.
> Waa mare, aragtida wadaaddadu waa ISLAM, oo waa aragti Ilaahi ah, oo
dabcan
> ka door roon mid kasta oo dadsamee ah. Saas oy tahayse, waxaan
tuhunsanahay
> in wadaaddadu "Saaxibu Nisyah" yihiin, oo ay ka gaabin karaan fahanka iyo
> dhaqangelinta aragtidaa Ilaahiga ah, waa Qur'aankee. Saas aawadeedna,
waxaan
> is tusiyay in aan Wadaaddada ku baraarujiyo in ay geesmareen amaba
garbiyeen
> arrin wax ka qabashadeedu mudnaan lahayd.
Deeqow waxaa jirtey in wadaadadu markasta ay ahaayeen kuwo aad looga
qaddariyo bulshadeena dhexdeeda ereygooduna socodo inkastoo xukunka aan loo
dhiibi jirin
Balse xagga guurka iyo wixii laxiriira iyagoo inoo wadi jirey, markaa mo
agtahay
in wadaadadeenii aaney dembi u arki jirin kala sarreynta dadka iyo in
guurku kuf leeyahayna ay aqbali jireen iyadoo loo aanaynayo Mad-hab ku
koobnaanta Haddase arrintaa waadaadada xil weyn bay iska saareen waana kuwa
meel kasta la taagan.
waa dhab Beryan dambe olole weyn ayaa ka socdey dhinaca galbeedka , waa
nasiib wanaag marka la eego dhaqankeena galbeedku wuxuu ahaa meelaha ugu
daran quursiga, ogow eedayn maayee
> Waa markeeda kalee, laga soo bilaabo halgankii daraawiishta, haddiiba,
> dalkeena, ay aragtiyi, cimri iyo cawaaqib yeelatayba, waxaa horkacayay
> wadaad, lahaa: "WAR ILAAHAY KA BAQA!" Waxaynuna maanta ognahay, in ay
jiraan
> dhallinyaro himadooda, hubkooda, iyo hantidoodaba ku jiheeyay in ay dalka
ku
> jideeyaan Jidkii Alle. Iyagaas, oo aan rajada biday, baan jeclaystay in
aan
> xusuusiyo in aan u dullownay dulmi, iska-qaadiddiisu aanay KURSI u
baahnayn!
Waa runtaa
Waxxanse orana lahaa walaal nin aan awood lahayni siduu wax u beddelaa aad
bey u adagtahay oo waxaa loo bahan yahay 'Kalimatun tahdii wa sayfu
yaxmii'(ibnu taymiyah).
> Deeq
,
Maxamed
Mohamed
Deeq.
dhiibi jirin.Balse xagga guurka iyo wixii laxiriira iyagoo inoo wadi jirey,
markaa mo
agtahay in wadaadadeenii aaney dembi u arki jirin kala sarreynta dadka iyo
in
guurku kuf leeyahayna ay aqbali jireen iyadoo loo aanaynayo Mad-hab ku
koobnaanta Haddase arrintaa waadaadada xil weyn bay iska saareen waana kuwa
meel kasta la taagan.
waa dhab Beryan dambe olole weyn ayaa ka socdey dhinaca galbeedka , waa
nasiib wanaag marka la eego dhaqankeena galbeedku wuxuu ahaa meelaha ugu
daran quursiga, ogow eedayn maayee
> Waa markeeda kalee, laga soo bilaabo halgankii daraawiishta, haddiiba,
> dalkeena, ay aragtiyi, cimri iyo cawaaqib yeelatayba, waxaa horkacayay
> wadaad, lahaa: "WAR ILAAHAY KA BAQA!" Waxaynuna maanta ognahay, in ay
jiraandhallinyaro himadooda, hubkooda, iyo hantidoodaba ku jiheeyay in ay
bashir ali
> > Dek Dirie wrote:
> >> Haddaad, sida Bashiir, na leedihiin Ilaahay baa sida noo xukumay, waxaan idin
> >> leenahay: "CUQDIIN IYO CAWRADIIN! ISLA HELA CURAAFAHA"
Bashir wrote:
> > Deeqow, ama eedee wadaado ama kuwa wadaado ahayn, ama
> > habaartan, cuqdiimo waxaa ah nin ka soo horjeesta xaqa bini
> > aadamka, laakiin taas waxaa ka cuqdiimo badan ninkii beeneeya
> > xukunka Ilaahay. "Waxaan idin ka dhignay shacuubo iyo qabiilo
si aad isku ogaataan"
> Orod diinta Ilaahay si fiican u soo baro.
Wa arin wanaagsan, mahadadsanid.
> Ilaahay dadka waxa uu ka dhigay labo kooxood:
> Koox shacuubo ah IYO koox qabaa'il ah; naxwahana
> qalladka ka dhaaf.
Abdiwaliyoow, noo sheek meesha uu Ilaahay kooxda
Soomaaliyeed ku darey(sounds like team), hanna ilaawin
daliil inaad bixisin, mid Quraan ah iyo mid naxwe ah.
Bashir.
Dii...@my-dejanews.com
bas...@worldnet.att.net wrote:
Mudane Bashiir:
Salaan ka bacdi, waxa aad i xusuusisay sheekadaan:
"Nin baa beri xaaskiisa, oo xanuunsan, waxa uu u keenay takhtar. Ninka iyo
xaaskiisu waxa ay ahaayeen Reer Xamar, Takhtarkuna Reer Waqooyi.
Ninkii baa wuxuu yiri: "Takhtarow, naagteyda, calooshaa, xalay, laga
khabtey!" Takhtarkii baa wuxuu yiri: "Dabadeedna?" Ninkii, oo yaabban, oo u
qaatay in takhtarku wax ka weyddiiyay xaaskiisa dabadeeda, baa wuxuu yiri:
"Haddii oy wax cabto ama wax cunto waa hunqaacooysaa!" Takhtarkii baa misana
yiri: "Dabadeedna?" Ninkii, oo Ilaahay yaab isugu keenay, baa xaaskiisa
dhegta u dhaweeyay, oo ku yiri: "Ay Iisho, ad dabada maa ku xanuunayso!"
Naagtii, oo tacbaan ah, baa tartiib u tiri: "Maya!" Ninkii, baa takhtarka u
soo jeestay, oo wuxuu ku yiri: "Dabo ma xanuunayso, meel kale ma xanuunayso,
caloosha lee xanuunaysa!" Takhtarkii baa misana yiri: "Dabadeedna?" Ninkii,
inta naagtiisii u jeestay, buu ku yiri: "Ay Iisho, takhtarkaan ash ma aho,
dabo lees kasaahe, naga keen, kii oo calooshaan raadihaynaahe!""
Bashir, aniga, oo aan ninka, takhtarka, iyo naagta toona kugu nisbaynayn,
waxaa jira is fahan la'aan, oo waxaad mooddaa in ay kaaga dhegtay 'Shuucaban
wa Qabaa'ilan", iyada oo dadkii kalena ku oomay war Ilaahay nama oran is
quursada.
Akhii, marka lagu yiraahdo qabiil Hebel baad tahay, oo gun baad tahay,
gabadhaadu guur ma leh, waa XANUUN. Haddii aad tiraahdo Ilaahay baa kugu
xukumayna waa QARRACAN. Haddaad been ka sheegaysana, waa QALAD FAWQAL QALAD
FAWQAL QALAD.
Min fadlak, haddii aad rabtid in aad Ilaahay u dhawaatid, ka dagaalan
QUURSIGA, al yacni, JIHAADKII Udub sheegay. Hana na weyddiin addilo, illeen
meel walba bay taallaaye. Haddii aad muran rabtidna, Bashiirow, maaddo kale
raadso!
Tixgelin,
Deeq
> Dek Dirie wrote:
>
> > Haddaad, sida Bashiir, na leedihiin Ilaahay baa sida noo xukumay, waxaan
idin
> > leenahay: "CUQDIIN IYO CAWRADIIN! ISLA HELA CURAAFAHA"
>
> Deegooqow, ama eedee wadaado ama kuwa wadaado ahayn, ama
> habaartan, cuqdiimo waxaa ah nin ka soo horjeesta xaqa bini
> aadamka, laakiin taas waxaa ka cuqdiimo badan ninkii beeneeya
> xukunka Ilaahay.
>
> "Waxaan idin ka dhignay shacuubo iyo qabiilo si aad isku ogaataan"
>
> Bashir.
bashir ali
> Mudane Bashiir:
> Bashir, aniga, oo aan ninka, takhtarka, iyo naagta toona kugu nisbaynayn,
> waxaa jira is fahan la'aan, oo waxaad mooddaa in ay kaaga dhegtay 'Shuucaban
> wa Qabaa'ilan", iyada oo dadkii kalena ku oomay war Ilaahay nama oran is
> quursada. Shuucaban wa Qabaa'ilan", iyada oo dadkii kalena ku oomay war
> Ilaahay nama oran is quursada.
> Akhii, marka lagu yiraahdo qabiil Hebel baad tahay, oo gun baad tahay,
> gabadhaadu guur ma leh, waa XANUUN. Haddii aad tiraahdo Ilaahay baa kugu
> xukumayna waa QARRACAN. Haddaad been ka sheegaysana, waa QALAD FAWQAL QALAD
> FAWQAL QALAD.
> Min fadlak, haddii aad rabtid in aad Ilaahay u dhawaatid, ka dagaalan
> QUURSIGA, al yacni, JIHAADKII Udub sheegay. Hana na weyddiin addilo, illeen
> meel walba bay taallaaye.
Deeqoow, markii macduucan aan ku jirno uu Maxamad
furey--Quursugu Qiil Maleeyahay--, qofkii ugu horeeyey
ee soo jeediyey in uu Ilaahay abuurey shacuubo iyo
qabiilo, yirina qof qof ka roon and ka fiican ma jiro
waa aniga. Waliba waxaan soo qaatey aayada oranaysa:
"INNA AKRAMA CINDA'LAAHI AD'QAAKUM".
Marka deeqoow, is fahan la'anta labadeena naga daxaysa
ilaa iyo hadda waa ay jirtaa. Maxaa yeeley, wili waxaad ii
haysataa in aan leeyahay isquursiga Ilaahay baa abuuray.
> Haddii aad muran rabtidna, Bashiirow, maaddo kale raadso!
Qof muran iyo habaar(CUQDIIN IYO CAWRADIIN! ISLA HELA CURAAFAHA)
u soo jeeda aniga ma ahi.
Bashir.
Abdiwali M Ahmed
bashir ali (bas...@worldnet.att.net) writes:
>>>"Waxaan idin ka dhignay shacuubo iyo qabiilo si aad isku ogaataan"
>>Orod diinta Ilaahay si fiican u soo baro.
>Wa arin wanaagsan, mahadadsanid.
Haddii aad wali barasho u diyaar tahay, ha murmin eh, orod qaado talada oo
hawada uga bax dadka diinta yaqaanna doonnayana in ay difaacaan qabiilka
khuraafiga ah.
>>Ilaahay dadka waxa uu ka dhigay labo kooxood:
>>Koox shacuubo ah IYO koox qabaa'il ah; naxwahana
>>qalladka ka dhaaf.
>Abdiwaliyoow, noo sheek meesha uu Ilaahay kooxda
>Soomaaliyeed ku darey(sounds like team), hanna ilaawin
>daliil inaad bixisin, mid Quraan ah iyo mid naxwe ah.
Oday, adigu ma waxa aad leedahay Ilaah baa si cad, isaga oo isticmaalaya
ereyga Soomaali sheegay in dadka Soomaaliyeed ay qabii'l yihiin amse xitaa
ay muslinmiin yihiin? Waxba naxwe ha saxin eh, sida kale u caddee!
Ahmed barre
ka dib markii aan muddo fiirinaayeey doodii adiga iyo "qabiildiid" iyo
waliba
ta cusub ee idin dhexmartay adiga iyo Deeq Diiriye, waxaa halkaa iiga cad
inaad la soo taagan tahay Ilaahay baa qabiilka "abuuray".
Hadaba taasi waxayaniga ila tahay inaad qalad u fasiraysid ayaadda quranka
ah.
sababtoo ah Alleqabiil ma abuurin ee inagaa abuurnay" MAAHIYA ILAA
ASMAA'UL SAMAYNTUMUUHAA ANTUM WA AABAA'UKUM MAA ANZALALAAHU BIHAA
MIN SULDAAN"[waa magacyo aad samaysateen adinka iyo aabayaashiin ,
allena wax ujeedo ah uusan u soo degin]
Bahir haddii aad ku doodin qabiilka allaa abuuray, ogow inaad leedahay alaa
abuuray
MIDGAAN, TUMAAL, BOON, YIBIR,ETC. taasina waa xaqdarada ugu weyn eelaga
galo bani'aadam. Midgaan , tumal.... aabayaasheen iyo awoowayashen baa
sameeyey
si xaq daro ah. taariikh ahaana waa qabiilo laga adkaaday oo la
adoonsaday.
Waxaan aaminsanahay in Deeq kaa saxsan yahay oo aan quursigaan alle na
badin
ee aan wax ka qabano.
Midda kale waxaan ka codsanayaa inaad joojisid afduubka iyo aayado ku
garaaca dadka
.waxaan ka wadaa markii doodaan la soo bandhigay waxaan la soo booday
ayaadaa.
laakiin aan ku waydiiye AAYADU MA HADAY SOO DEGTEY? mise dadka
soomaliyeed
baa hadda islaamay? .15000 ku dhawaad bay ayaadu joogtay muddo ku dhowna
muslim baan
ahayn QUURSIGANA WAAN WADNAY.
marka la i moow xal, ku dhawaajinta aayadanu meel ku gaarsiin maysee!!
--
[In uriidu ila-al islah ma astada'atu.Wamaa tawfiiqii ilaa bilaah]
Ahmed Yassin
: "CUQDIIN IYO CAWRADIIN! ISLA HELA CURAAFAHA"
>
> Deegooqow, ama eedee wadaado ama kuwa wadaado ahayn, ama
> habaartan, cuqdiimo waxaa ah nin ka soo horjeesta xaqa bini
> aadamka, laakiin taas waxaa ka cuqdiimo badan ninkii beeneeya
> xukunka Ilaahay.
>
> "Waxaan idin ka dhignay shacuubo iyo qabiilo si aad isku ogaataan"
>
>
> Bashir.
>
bashir ali
> Dear Bashir:
> ka dib markii aan muddo fiirinaayeey doodii
> adiga iyo "qabiildiid" iyo waliba ta cusub ee
> idin dhexmartay adiga iyo Deeq Diiriye, waxaa
> halkaa iiga cad inaad la soo taagan tahay Ilaahay
> baa qabiilka "abuuray".
Taas miyaa shaki kaaga jiraa, Ahamdoow in uu Ilaahay
abuuray qabaail sida uu u abuuray shacuub?
> Hadaba taasi waxayaniga ila tahay inaad qalad
> u fasiraysid ayaadda quranka ah.
Qaladka ma'iisheegi kartaa aan u fiiriyey Aayadan?
"Shacuuban Wa Qabaa'ila, Li Tacaarafuu"(Qur'an 49:13)
> sababtoo ah Alleqabiil ma abuurin ee inagaa abuurnay
> " MAAHIYA ILAA ASMAA'UL SAMAYNTUMUUHAA ANTUM WA AABAA'UKUM
> MAA ANZALALAAHU BIHAA MIN SULDAAN"[waa magacyo aad samaysateen
> adinka iyo aabayaashiin ,allena wax ujeedo ah uusan u soo degin]
> Bahir haddii aad ku doodin qabiilka allaa abuuray,
> ogow inaad leedahay alaa abuuray MIDGAAN, TUMAAL, BOON, YIBIR,ETC.
> taasina waa xaqdarada ugu weyn eelaga galo bani'aadam. Midgaan ,
> tumal.... aabayaasheen iyo awoowayashen baa sameeyey si xaq daro ah.
> taariikh ahaana waa qabiilo laga adkaaday oo la adoonsaday.
Ahmadoow, Ilaahay waxuu abuuray shacuubo kala duwan iyo qabiilo
kala duwan, magacyada aan sameesanay anaga iyo aabayaasheen waa
kuwa aan anaga sameeysany oo uusan Ilaahay noo samayn.
Magacyada waxay noqon karaan kuwa si xun loo la jeedey,
dadka lugu macagaacabayna micna heedada ma aha in Ilaahay
xaggiisa ay kaxun yihiin, kuwa lagu magacaabay fiicanaana
ma aha in in ay xaggiisa ka fiican yihiin.
Magacyada waxay noqon karaan kuwa qabiileed(ADOON, MIDGAAN, DAAROOD
HAWIYE, ISAAQ, RAXAWAYN), waxaa kale ay noqon karaankuwa
qaaradeed(DARK CONTINENT-AFRICA, YURUB, AMERICAS,..., waxay
kaloo noqon karaan kuwa dal ah(ITOOBIAYA, SOMAALIA, KEENYA, ITAALIYA),
waxay kaloo noqon karaan kuwa dad isku baxshey(NIGGER, NOBLE..),
micnaheeda ma'aha in uu Ilaahay magacyadaas abuurey.
> Waxaan aaminsanahay in Deeq kaa saxsan yahay oo aan
> quursigaan alle na badin. ee aan wax ka qabano.
Haddi uu Deeq ku saxsanyahay, wuxuu uga saxsan yahay qofkale
oo aan Bashiir ahayn, maxaayeeley aniga quursiga ma dhihin
Ilaahay baa buuray ee waxaan qabaa in Ilaahay abuurey shacuub
iyo qabiilo.
> Midda kale waxaan ka codsanayaa inaad joojisid
> afduubka iyo aayado ku garaaca dadka. waxaan ka
> wadaa markii doodaan la soo bandhigay
> waxaan la soo booday ayaadaa.
Ahmadoow, waan kaxumahay in aan kaa diidey codsigaada,
maxaa yeeley Quraanka in la joojiyo ma wanaagsana ee waa
in markii loo baahdo la soo bandhigo sida loo arko.
> laakiin aan ku waydiiye AAYADU MA HADAY SOO DEGTEY?
> mise dadka soomaliyeed baa hadda islaamay? .15000 ku dhawaad
> bay ayaadu joogtay muddo ku dhowna muslim baan ahayn QUURSIGANA WAAN WADNAY.
> marka la i moow xal, ku dhawaajinta aayadanu meel ku gaarsiin maysee!!
Ahamadoow, Aayadaas Quraanka ah waa xal, waxayna xal u
tahay qofkii aqbala, kii beeneeya Aayadaasna, ama ha
istimaalo quursi(racism=qabyaadad) ama ha istimaalo ixtiraam(wanaag),
isga ayay jirtaa, meesha ay gaarsiiysana Ilaahay baa og.
Aayada waxay leedahay: Ilaahey wuxuu abuurey shacuub iyo
qabaa'l, cid cid ka fiicana majirto Ilaahay xaggiisa
maahee(Kii Ilaahay ka baqo)(Qur'an 49:13)
Bashir.
bashir ali
> >>>"Waxaan idin ka dhignay shacuubo iyo qabiilo si aad isku ogaataan"
>
> >>Orod diinta Ilaahay si fiican u soo baro.
> >Wa arin wanaagsan, mahadsanid.
> Haddii aad wali barasho u diyaar tahay,
> ha murmin eh, orod qaado talada
Nin talo iyo barasho waligiis u baahan
baan ahay, muran taana kama qabo.
> oo hawada uga bax dadka diinta yaqaanna
> doonnayana in ay difaacaan qabiilka khuraafiga ah.
Hawada waa ay wayntahay, kii qabiil in la
abuurey beeneysay iyo kan qabyaalad ku dhaqmaba
waa u furan tahay.
> >>Ilaahay dadka waxa uu ka dhigay labo kooxood:
> >>Koox shacuubo ah IYO koox qabaa'il ah; naxwahana
> >>qalladka ka dhaaf.
> >Abdiwaliyoow, noo sheek meesha uu Ilaahay kooxda
> >Soomaaliyeed ku darey(sounds a like team), hanna ilaawin
> >daliil inaad bixisin, mid Quraan ah iyo mid naxwe ah.
> Oday, adigu ma waxa aad leedahay Ilaah baa
> si cad, isaga oo isticmaalaya ereyga Soomaali
> sheegay in dadka Soomaaliyeed ay qabii'l yihiin
> amse xitaa ay muslinmiin yihiin?
> Waxba naxwe ha saxin eh, sida kale u caddee!
Soomalida waa ummad ummadaha la
abuurey ka mid ah(shacuubo iyo qabiilo).
Meel umadaha loo kala saarey shacuubo iyo
qabiilo kuma arag Quraanka, nabigana ma
xaaraantimeen qabiil jiritaankiisa.
Qabiilo badan oo shacuubaha ka mid ah, ama
Muslimiin ha ahaadeen ama yeysan ahaan, baa jira.
Muslinimada ma aha mid Soomaalida ugaartahay, meel
loogu diidayna kuma arag Quraanka, sidoo kale meel
loogu diiday in ay ka mid yihiin shacuubo iyo qabiilo
ma arag. Qofkii raba in uu Muslim noqda, ama Maraykan
ama Carab ama African waa uu noqon...Muslinimada ma
kala laha dal, qabiil, shacuub, black, white......
Bashir.
Abdiwali M Ahmed
bashir ali (bas...@worldnet.att.net) writes:
Ardaaga QabiilDiid wrote:
>>>>>"Waxaan idin ka dhignay shacuubo iyo qabiilo si aad isku ogaataan"
>
>>>>Orod diinta Ilaahay si fiican u soo baro.
>>>Wa arin wanaagsan, mahadsanid.
>>Haddii aad wali barasho u diyaar tahay,
>>ha murmin eh, orod qaado talada
>Nin talo iyo barasho waligiis u baahan
>baan ahay, muran taana kama qabo.
Muranka jooji inta aad waxbaraneysid.
>>oo hawada uga bax dadka diinta yaqaanna
>>doonnayana in ay difaacaan qabiilka khuraafiga ah.
>Hawada waa ay wayntahay, kii qabiil in la
>abuurey beeneysay iyo kan qabyaalad ku dhaqmaba
>waa u furan tahay.
Indho xafajada qabiilka nolosha mooday oo Ilaahay ku caasiyeyba way u furan
tahay hawado.
>>>>Ilaahay dadka waxa uu ka dhigay labo kooxood:
>>>>Koox shacuubo ah IYO koox qabaa'il ah; naxwahana
>>>>qalladka ka dhaaf.
>>>Abdiwaliyoow, noo sheek meesha uu Ilaahay kooxda
>>>Soomaaliyeed ku darey(sounds a like team), hanna ilaawin
>>>daliil inaad bixisin, mid Quraan ah iyo mid naxwe ah.
>>Oday, adigu ma waxa aad leedahay Ilaah baa
>>si cad, isaga oo isticmaalaya ereyga Soomaali
>>sheegay in dadka Soomaaliyeed ay qabii'l yihiin
>>amse xitaa ay muslinmiin yihiin?
>>Waxba naxwe ha saxin eh, sida kale u caddee!
>Soomalida waa ummad ummadaha la
>abuurey ka mid ah(shacuubo iyo qabiilo).
>Meel umadaha loo kala saarey shacuubo iyo
>qabiilo kuma arag Quraanka, nabigana ma
>xaaraantimeen qabiil jiritaankiisa.
Nabigu (CSWA) sidoo kale ma xaaraameyn ummad shaxab ka koonan oo ku dhaqanta
qabiil la'aan. Lagama hayo nabiga amase qowlka Ilaah weedhan oo kale: ma jiro
ummadi haddii ay jirtana waxa ay ka kooban tahay qabaa'il.
>Qabiilo badan oo shacuubaha ka mid ah, ama
>Muslimiin ha ahaadeen ama yeysan ahaan, baa jira.
>Muslinimada ma aha mid Soomaalida ugaartahay, meel
>loogu diidayna kuma arag Quraanka, sidoo kale meel
>loogu diiday in ay ka mid yihiin shacuubo iyo qabiilo
>ma arag. Qofkii raba in uu Muslim noqda, ama Maraykan
>ama Carab ama African waa uu noqon...Muslinimada ma
>kala laha dal, qabiil, shacuub, black, white......
Imika ayaad iskaga jawaabtay su'aashaadii. Shacuubta uu nabigu amase quraan
magacaabay waa wax faraha lagu tirin karo. Inta kale waxa loo nisbeeyey in
ay yihiin umaddii nabi Maxamed. Nabigu shucuubtaas wax qabaa'il ah kuma
tilmaamin, magacyada qabaa'ilkoodana ma sheegin haddii ay lahaayeen qabaa'il
wakhtigaa marka laga reebo reer bani Israa'il iyo Carabtii waqtigaa jirtay
oo uu nabigu ku dhexdhashay.
Ardaaga QabiilDiid....
bashir ali
> >>>>Orod diinta Ilaahay si fiican u soo baro.
> >>>Wa arin wanaagsan, mahadsanid.
> >>Haddii aad wali barasho u diyaar tahay,
> >>ha murmin eh, orod qaado talada
> >Nin talo iyo barasho waligiis u baahan
> >baan ahay, muran taana kama qabo.
> Muranka jooji inta aad waxbaraneysid.
Waayahaye, diinta Ilaahey na bar.
> >>oo hawada uga bax dadka diinta yaqaanna
> >>doonnayana in ay difaacaan qabiilka khuraafiga ah.
> >Hawada waa ay wayntahay, kii qabiil in la
> >abuurey beeneysay iyo kan qabyaalad ku dhaqmaba
> >waa u furan tahay.
> Indho xafajada qabiilka nolosha mooday oo
> Ilaahay ku caasiyeyba way u furan tahay hawado.
Waa sax, hawada way u furan tahay qof walba,
qofkii qof kale ku yiraahda "hawada ka bax"
waa uu qaldan yahay.
> >>Oday, adigu ma waxa aad leedahay Ilaah baa
> >>si cad, isaga oo isticmaalaya ereyga Soomaali
> >>sheegay in dadka Soomaaliyeed ay qabii'l yihiin
> >>amse xitaa ay muslinmiin yihiin?
> >>Waxba naxwe ha saxin eh, sida kale u caddee!
> >Soomalida waa ummad ummadaha la
> >abuurey ka mid ah(shacuubo iyo qabiilo).
> >Meel umadaha loo kala saarey shacuubo iyo
> >qabiilo kuma arag Quraanka, nabigana ma
> >xaaraantimeen qabiil jiritaankiisa.
> Nabigu (CSWA) sidoo kale ma xaaraameyn ummad
> shaxab ka koonan oo ku dhaqanta qabiil la'aan.
> Lagama hayo nabiga amase qowlka Ilaah weedhan
> oo kale: ma jiro ummadi haddii ay jirtana waxa
> ay ka kooban tahay qabaa'il.
shacabka Soomaalida qabaailo ayay ka kooban
yihiin, xaaraana adiga dartaa kuma noqonayso,
qiil diineedna meel aad uga keenayso ma jirto,
Cabdiwaliyoow.
> >Qabiilo badan oo shacuubaha ka mid ah, ama
> >Muslimiin ha ahaadeen ama yeysan ahaan, baa jira.
> >Muslinimada ma aha mid Soomaalida ugaartahay, meel
> >loogu diidayna kuma arag Quraanka, sidoo kale meel
> >loogu diiday in ay ka mid yihiin shacuubo iyo qabiilo
> >ma arag. Qofkii raba in uu Muslim noqda, ama Maraykan
> >ama Carab ama African waa uu noqon...Muslinimada ma
> >kala laha dal, qabiil, shacuub, black, white......
> Imika ayaad iskaga jawaabtay su'aashaadii.
> Shacuubta uu nabigu amase quraan magacaabay
> waa wax faraha lagu tirin karo.
Soomaalida ma ku jirtaa, Cabdiwaliyoow?!
> Inta kale waxa loo nisbeeyey in ay yihiin umaddii
> nabi Maxamed.
Ummadaha nabi Maxamed waa dadkoo dhan, gaal iyo Muslimba
ha ahaadeen, dalkastana ha joogeen hadda, maxaa yeeley
nabi dambe Ilaahay ma soo diri doono.
> Nabigu shucuubtaas wax qabaa'il ah kuma
> tilmaamin, magacyada qabaa'ilkoodana ma
> sheegin haddii ay lahaayeen qabaa'il wakhtigaa
> marka laga reebo reer bani Israa'il iyo Carabtii
> waqtigaa jirtay oo uu nabigu ku dhexdhashay.
Sidoo kale nabiga ma sheegin in ay shucuub Soomaali
la yiraahdo in ay jirto ama jiri doonto!
Bashir.
digay
xun umada baray in ay u aqbali doonan fikradaan halkaan lagu soo jeediyay
waxaan u malaynayaa midaasi in ay waqti iyo dad dan kalehba in loo baahan
yahay . JAAW
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>
>Quursigu Qiil Ma Leeyahay
>
>This article was discussed in BBC Somali service on last Three weeks and
>participated by many Somali intellectuals, artists, poetess and experts
>from various fields including both men and women.
>In my opinion it was very interesting topic, I was amazed on the extent
>which the BBC Somali service discussed this untouchable topic, which
>enabled many participants to view their opinions and talk freely about it.
>Every one of those who thought they were superior (aji) were blaming
>unknown characters and encouraged to get rid of that bad habit whereas
>others were asking to be accept as a normal citizens and were simply asking
>others to discard
>This barbaric tradition which has no base in our religion and also in the
>secular society.
>I learned from this discussion some views, that explained the origin of
>some Somali clans and what make them what they are today.
>Quursi (cast system) is disgraceful and baseless tradition, which has been
>in existence in our society since in memorial.
> Although Quursi (cast system) is a practice, which is as old as a mankind
>on this planet. Different communities have different types of cast system
>but ours has reduced some members of our community to a low esteemed and
>full of inferiority complex.
>In our case as a Somalis we should discard this but the question is how and
>where do we start to dismantle this monster which has haunted and lived
>with us for a long time?.
>Any further comments or discussions in this topic will be highly
>appreciated and welcomed.
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