Apology to sister faduma :)
mux...@my-deja.com
> Najib or Maxamed! your bad mouthing of this sister beyond Somali
culture you
> are crying for let alone an Islamic character.
First of all i want take the opportunity to say to fatuma "IM SORRY
WALALEEY".. because I jumped to conclusion about you without reading
the whole thread of that particular discussion on somali culture. After
Ina-Daud brought to my attention, i made an effort to go back to it and
i realized you are a "Decent somali sister."
sincerly,
Nagiib
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> First of all i want take the opportunity to say to fatuma "IM SORRY
> WALALEEY".. because I jumped to conclusion about you without reading
> the whole thread of that particular discussion on somali culture.
>After,Ina-Daud brought to my attention, i made an effort to go back to
>it and i realized you are a "Decent somali sister."
My uncle always used to say that "sorry" rag makala saarto. I could use
this against you but lets just say I know better. You'v made a mistake
and you have admitted it publicly and thats enough for me... You are
forgiven!!!
One word of advice though walaalo, its not very nice to name call,
judge, label a person whom you do not even know and always no matter
what check facts. This is not only for you but also for those two
ediots at carleton (or the ediot at carlton and friend) and brothers
Ahmed Barre ( and I truely expected more from this bro.) and Carrabay
whom I have never had a discussion with but choose to name call myself
(though not directly) and brother D'aud.
I just want to know what ever happened to give each other the benefit of
the doubt and the good old fashioned way of asking each other (nicely)
to calrify, explain, elaporate on our points etc... Don't you all think
that SCS would be a much better place.
Just for the record me being a 'whore' was inveted by the boy at
carlton.. who also called me ugly. How he knows, Allahu yaclam.. but
the fact that he is commenting on my looks (via the net) shows the
validity of his statements. What you think of me personaly, really does
not matter. I am not looking to please anyone on this forume, but bear
in mind that you all must give respect to get respect.
Bye
FM
Ahmed Barre
<7jopec$mf0$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>. This is not only for you but also for those two
> ediots at carleton (or the ediot at carlton and friend) and brothers
> Ahmed Barre ( and I truely expected more from this bro.) and Carrabay
> whom I have never had a discussion with but choose to name call myself
> (though not directly) and brother D'aud.
Dear Fatima:
I am really surprised that i found my name on your offenders's list or i am
one of those "who chosed to name call you!". Being an old man and big
believer of " lady is always right" Somali classical theory, i don't have
much choice left but "inaan xaal bixiyo ama sabeen kugu xiro".:-). and It
was really really sad inaan gefo. But i am human after all.
However, you see fatima, i need reminder. i mean when it was that i entered
in your books as an offender?. you see as you grow old, you don't recall
much!. And that is what is happening to me.
but hold on, did you say you and your AKHUUKA FI LAAH Ina Daud?.
I think Fatima we have to separate ideology from personality. I mean when
it comes ideology everyone should defend what he/she believes. And me and
Ina Daud have ideological difference. and I believe everything that i say
to him. Because he can't distingiush apple from orange and wants to win
ideological war, i have every rights of calling him any unintelligent name
and i think he deserves. but when it comes to personalizing, i've never
been accused of.
And you, as a fatima you made me shocked by putting me on the list of your
offenders, those who called you "a whore" or any other name. And i think
that neither i nor Carrabey called you any name. And if i am not mistaken
it was you who called my idea "blah blah blah, nothing important, nothing
substential". So what you gonna say about that?
--
[In uriidu ila-al islah ma astada'atu.Wamaa tawfiiqii ilaa bilaah]
Ahmed Yassin
fatima_...@my-deja.com
> I am really surprised that i found my name on your offenders's list or
>i am one of those "who chosed to name call you!". Being an old man and
>big believer of " lady is always right" Somali classical theory, i
>don't have much choice left but "inaan xaal bixiyo ama sabeen kugu
>xiro".:-). and It was really really sad inaan gefo. But i am human
>after all.
It alright walaalo, it was not that big of an issue any ( well at least
not as bad as being called a whore). May be I was wrong to have
mentioned this here.. But you have made some statements that bothreed me
a little and I thought that I might as well mention something since I
was already discussing the issue. However, you have opologised in a
genle-man like manner and I am willing to forget that it happened.
> However, you see fatima, i need reminder. i mean when it was that i
>entered in your books as an offender?. you see as you grow old, you
>don't recall much!. And that is what is happening to me.
Being called a confused sister, a wahaabi and a Saudi wannabe ( though I
think that it was Carabay who said this) did offend me a bit.
> but hold on, did you say you and your AKHUUKA FI LAAH Ina Daud?.
> I think Fatima we have to separate ideology from personality. I mean
>when it comes ideology everyone should defend what he/she believes. And
>me and Ina Daud have ideological difference. and I believe everything
>that i say to him. Because he can't distingiush apple from orange and
>wants to win ideological war, i have every rights of calling him any
>unintelligent name and i think he deserves. but when it comes to
>personalizing, i've ever been accused of.
> And you, as a fatima you made me shocked by putting me on the list of
>your offenders, those who called you "a whore" or any other name.
Just because I have mentioned your name along with theirs does not mean
that I tink that you are on their level, them boys are in a class of
their own (if you want to call it a class). I had respect for you
brother and I guess i still do, but I am the kind of person who speaks
their mind, I am starting to think that this is not allowed in SCS.
What I am saying is I will always voice my opinion but I guess I chose
the wrong place this time..
>And i think that neither i nor Carrabey called you any name.
Maybe you did maybe you did not... but who was the confused sister that
brother Ciise was allegedly guiding... Maybe it was an ideological
thing, but categorising people into wahaabies, confused, saudi wannabe's
and the like is to me name calling.
>And if i am not mistaken it was you who called my idea "blah blah
>blah, nothing important, nothing substential". So what you gonna say
>about that?
It was not me.. I have respect my elders (not that I think that U R an
old man). I would say this sort of thing to the kid at carlton &
friends. But I would never use this level of argument with an
intelligent person, and I personaly think that the mojority of brothers
and sisters (with the exeption of the few) are decent, intelligent
people.
I don't ever recall using those words and I don't think that you and I
have ever had a 121 discussion untill now.
Take care now,
Fatima.
Mohamed Foore
fatima_...@my-deja.com wrote in message <7jopec$mf0$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>
>
>> First of all i want take the opportunity to say to fatuma "IM SORRY
>> WALALEEY".. because I jumped to conclusion about you without reading
>> the whole thread of that particular discussion on somali culture.
>>After,Ina-Daud brought to my attention, i made an effort to go back to
>>it and i realized you are a "Decent somali sister."
>
>My uncle always used to say that "sorry" rag makala saarto. I could use
>this against you but lets just say I know better. You'v made a mistake
>and you have admitted it publicly and thats enough for me... You are
>forgiven!!!
>
>One word of advice though walaalo, its not very nice to name call,
>judge, label a person whom you do not even know and always no matter
>ediots at carleton (or the ediot at carlton and friend) and brothers
>Ahmed Barre ( and I truely expected more from this bro.) and Carrabay
>whom I have never had a discussion with but choose to name call myself
>(though not directly) and brother D'aud.
>
>Bye
>
>FM
Walaal Fatima.
salaamu calaykum warraxmatullaahi wa barakaatuhu.
Bismillaah.
kuwa aflaagaadeeye hablaha dhowrsoon Eebbe wuxuu ka yidhi.
Kuwa Tuhma (ku eedeeye dhilaysi) dumarka dhowrsoon oo aan keenin
afar markhaati ah jeedala siddeetan jeedal ,diidana maraggooda weligiin,
kuwaasi waa fasiqiin dhab ah.
Miyaaney ahayn Ca'isha bintu saddiiq, markay tuhmeen munaafiqiintii,
iyo muslimiintii khaldamay in eebbe amaray in muslimiinta gefeyna la jeedalo
Munaafiqiintana u sheegay in cadaab daran lagaga abaal marin doono.
Miyaanay ahayn gabadhii Muslimada ahayd ee qurduba markii dad xunku wax
yeeleeyey tii tidhi WAA ISLAAMAA YAA MUCTASIMAA.(Muctasim=amiir muslim ahaa)
dabeedna ay daraadeed usoo duuleen in ka badan boqolka kun ee mujaahid.
Miyaaney ahayn gabadhii muslimadda ahayd ee Ansaareed tii sababtay
dagaalkii Nabiga nabad iyo naxariis korkiisa ha ahaatee ku qaaday
yuhuuddii Bani Nadiir markii suuqa ninka mid ahi gabadha ku faraxumeeyey.
Hayeeshee Faatimaay waxaa nasiib darro ah in maanta adiga iyo hablaha
dhowrsan ee muslimiinta ah ee meel kastaba lagu aflaagaadeeye aynaan waxba u
tari
karin haddaba walaashay waxaan kaa codsanayaa salaad kasta ee aad tukatid in
aad innuugu ducaysid in allaah inoo fududeeye sidaan u soo celin lahayn
sharafteennii, dawlad islaami ah oo daneheenna ilaalisana Dhulka u taagi
lahayn.
wiilka Carleton iyo maciisaba aan goobtooda ugu tagi lahayn...
Mohamed.
fatima_...@my-deja.com
Dear Mohamed
Walaalo thank you so much for your intresting article. I just hope our
little brother(s) has learnt a lesson from it. Me, I am not really
bothred at the end of the day my Creator and family know what sort of a
person I am that is all that matters to me. The only person the kid at
carlton is hurting his himself.. couse he is the one who will be
answerable to his CREATOR for what ever he has accused me of in the past
2 months (and there are many). I just don't understand what is eating
the kid, if anyone knows please advice.
However I am willing to accept a major appology from this brother and
let 'by gones be by gones' if he is willing to grow up and stop this
school boy act ( how old RU M Ali). If he insists on keeping it up, then
fatima is the worst enemy anyone could ask for. The decision is yours M
Ali ( I know your reading this carlton boy.... looking for something to
use on your next "regarding fadumo"-- good luck)
About us getting an islamic 'dawlad', well I pray that inshAllah with
time, patients, islamic education and a lot of ducaa we will find our
way to a good state. I like what sister Fadumo H said in "sideen ku
heshiinaynaa" maybe those are the answers to our problems as somalis.
What do you say.
Take Care all
FM
G13a3m1
no regard the feeling of others.
Always she pretends that is so inocent,
but she knows how to belitlle the guys.
She is very a manuplative girl amd knows
who to disguise her hurtfull words .
She very decietfull and cunning .
She knows how to put down people and the
same time pretend good muslima.
I consider faduma ''MUNAAFAQ''
What she writes and the way she put dow
the people are to different.
I'been following what she writes and the way she responds to the others are to
different.
Dhaga juun.
Abdi Daud
>but hold on, did you say you and your AKHUUKA FI LAAH Ina Daud?.
She is my ukhti fillaahi what about you?!!!!
>I think Fatima we have to separate ideology from personality. I mean when
>it comes ideology everyone should defend what he/she believes.
Do you have any ideology?!. I doubt!!!.
>And me and
>Ina Daud have ideological difference.
If I explicit with you I would say to you that you're xaadhibu Layl rather
worst than normal Caami. I would add loud and clear you're a big lier,
confused, ignorant, Islamist hater, secular lover, and now Amxara supporter and
much much more.
>and I believe everything that i say
>to him. Because he can't distingiush apple from orange and wants to win
>ideological war,
Your plain insult on Islamist also is part of your shallow ideology. Got ya!!.
May Allah give you clean tongue.
>i have every rights of calling him any unintelligent name
>and i think he deserves.
Again may Allah give you clean tonque.
> but when it comes to personalizing, i've never
>been accused of.
What a lie?. In one single passage you've many personality. Enjoy it.
>[In uriidu ila-al islah ma astada'atu.Wamaa tawfiiqii ilaa bilaah]
Inturiidu illaal ifsaada mastadhacta walaa towfiiq minallaah xataa tatuuba.
Abdi Da'ud "Ina Da'ud"
Daud7
>From: g13...@aol.com (G13a3m1)
>Date: Tue, 15 June 1999 07:01 PM EDT
>Message-id: <19990615190142...@ng-ce1.aol.com>
Dhaga Juun,
Lagu salaan
I hate to put my nose for people's business but your quick verdict caught my
attention. If you know the meaning "munaafiq" then the world should cry for
mercy.
May Allah give us knowledge.
fatima_...@my-deja.com
> >Message-id: <19990615190142...@ng-ce1.aol.com>
> >
> >Faduma is the worest offender and she has
> >no regard the feeling of others.
Slow down brother, I remember saying somewhere that I give respect when
I get it. I treat people the way they treat me and this means that I
will approach YOU in the same manner that you approach me. If your
running arround throwing false accusations and insults at me. Then
honey don't expect me to be nice about it. I have tried being polite
and have tried to explain myself to you brothers but that don't work...
there is a somali saying which goes the "caruurta markaad ilkahaaga
tustid, futadooda ayay ku tusaan". From what I experinace in deja you
and your mates are acting like a bunch of kids....... so whats is the
use of being nice to you.
> >Always she pretends that is so inocent,
I don't pretend anything and no I don't think or have said that I am
innocent, I am a human being therefore I am free from prefection like
everyone else.
> >but she knows how to belitlle the guys.
True--- but only those who try to play smart with me..
> >She is very a manuplative girl amd knows who to disguise her hurtfull
words . She very decietfull and cunning .
I never try to disguise anything ---- I have been staright to the point
from the beginning, maybe that is what got me into trouble with you guys
in the first place.. What do you want me to lie just make you people
happy-- I don't think so.
> >She knows how to put down people and the same time pretend good
muslima. i consider faduma ''MUNAAFAQ''
Let Allah be the judge of wether I am a munafiqa or not-- like brother
Daud said please look up the word. How do you expect me not to put down
people, while some of you only engage themselves in putting down fatima.
Don't you ppl have anything else to talk about? do you get together and
plan the next nasty insult to throw at fatima or are you a member of
some sort of an underground cult who work on 'deviant somalis' ( which
is what I am -right).
> >What she writes and the way she put dow
he people are to different.
> >I'been following what she writes and the way she responds to the
others are to different.
This does not make any sense, what I write are my response to others.. I
try to think positive and post some positive messages but people like
you are making it hard..
Take care now,
fatima
Ahmed Barre
G13a3m1 <g13...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19990615190142...@ng-ce1.aol.com>...
> Faduma is the worest offender and she has
> no regard the feeling of others.
Dhega juun & Akhayaarta kaleba:
War illeyn anagaa belaayo aragnay!.
Akhayaaarey anigu waan yaabanahaye gabadhaan faadumo ah maxay ku kasbatey
intaas oo cay ah iyo aflagaado ah. Mid wuxuu ku yiri "whore" . midkale
"confused" . midkalena "munaafaqad". iyo magacya kaloo badan.
Ogaantey wax weyn oo ay cid u dhintay ma garanayo oo aan ka ahayn inay tiri
"Somaalinimada ka hor anigu muslimad baan ahay oo aan horeysiinayaa".
Marka ma intaas ayaa waxaan oo cey ah ugu dhacayaan mise wax kale ayaan
moogahay?.
Akhayaarey waad igu biirin kartaan waxaan moogahay laakiin waxaan u
maleynayaa "Baroortu orgiga ka weyn". Waxaana u maleynayaa inay jiraan
waxyaalo kale oo yartaan loo daba socdo. Bal marka aan mala awaalee sidey
aniga ila tahay.
a) Gabadhu ma mid yaroo dhib badan oo faraha laga qaad ah oo hadee waxaanan
ogayn bay kasbatay?.:-)
b) Ma Wixii raga Somaliyeed lagu xaman jirey baa halkaan ka rumoobey oo
ahaa inaynaan arki karin gabar "aftahad ah" ama "cod kar ah"?.
c) Haddee raggoow gabadha waa loo wada kulul yahoo raga kuleyl baa ka
qayli siinaya oo itaal baaska sidaan "haasaawe" doon baan nahay!?
ahahahah.
Calaa kuli xaal anigu waxaan iraahdo garan maayee .
Hadii qodobka 1aad run yahay (u maleyn maayee) hadee garta rag ha loo
saaro oo gabadhu ha loo sheego iney dhibka dhaafto ama ha leygu simo anaa
adeerkeed ahe:-).
Hadii qodobka 2aad u run yahayse dee ragu raganimo ha iska baaro baqdinta
ha la iska dhaafo oo gabadha sida ha loo dhaamo gabadh cod kar ah waa wax
loo baahan yahaye. oo sidaani se ma ahee gabdhahii soomaliyeed waan bah
dilee sidaan u dhahaynay "naa aamus" baanu ka dhignay "ciyaal" aan caqli
ahaan kobcine aan dib isugu noqono. Runtiina waxaan u maleynayaa inay
dhibaato weyn tahay oo na heysata sideynaan u ogoleyn haween codkooda
dhiibta ama raga ka gar hela.
Hadiise arrintu ay tahay qodobka 3aad. arrinku waa sahal ragu ha tartamo
ee gabadha si ilbaxnimo leh haloola haasaawo. dee gabadhuna ma qaybsantee
ninkii horoow calaal caleeg dheh oo ceyda jooji. anigana dee adeerkeed baan
ahaye sooryada ha ley keeno:-)).
haddiise uusan midna ahayn dee ha la ii sheego.
Intaas ka dib akhayaareey walaahey saan waa laga fiican yahay ee gabadha ha
laga xishoodo waxaani waa gunimee. Xataa haddey wax geysato gabadha yaan
saas loola dhaqmin.
[In uriidu ila-al islah ma astada'atu.Wamaa tawfiiqii ilaa bilaah]
Ahmed Yassin
Abdirashid
Ahmed Barre wrote in message
In kasta oo aanan wada akhriyin wixii la qorey, haddana waxay u muuqataa in
"Baroortu Orgiga ka Weyntahay". Waxa igu filan inaan gunaanadkaa gaadho
taariikhdii hore ee Sister Fatima ee nadiifta ahayd. Soomaaliduna waxay
tidhaahdaa Qof aaad taqaanid (through the internet) yaa tahay lama
yidhaahdo. Laakiin waxaan yara jecleysan lahaa inaaney Fatima dheg u dhigin.
Waayo? waxaa la rumeysanayahay in Xayawaanka qaar ka mid ihi udgoonka ku
dhintaan, qashinka iyo qudhunkana ku raaxaystaan. Baniaadmigana in badan
ayaa wanaaga iyo ciddii sheegtaba neceb, Akhlaaq xumada iyo Af xumada ku
istareexa. Markaa, wax lala yaabo iilama muuqato inaan dad noocaas ah halkan
ku aragno. Meesha ugu sareysa ee ay higsanayaani waa iney helaan qof ama dad
hadalkooda wax ka soo qaada.
March on and never look back as they would wish.
Abdirashid
>Ogaantey wax weyn oo ay cid u dhintay ma garanayo oo aan ka ahayn inay tiri
> "Somaalinimada ka hor anigu muslimad baan ahay oo aan horeysiinayaa".
>Marka ma intaas ayaa waxaan oo cey ah ugu dhacayaan mise wax kale ayaan
>moogahay?.
>
>Akhayaarey waad igu biirin kartaan waxaan moogahay laakiin waxaan u
>maleynayaa "Baroortu orgiga ka weyn". Waxaana u maleynayaa inay jiraan
>waxyaalo kale oo yartaan loo daba socdo.
>[In uriidu ila-al islah ma astada'atu.Wamaa tawfiiqii ilaa bilaah]
>Ahmed Yassin
>