Iidoor Dabacayuun
Rashid Adam
In badan baa Internetka laga waayay in Iidoor qabyaalada ka daayo Ummaddan
qaxootiga ah ee iyaduba iskeed u dhiban. Maalinba mid Mijintu si ku noqotay
ama Beerkii la wareersanbay soo hogaamimiyaan inuu godka dab ka shido. CAWO,
HAYAAN, JAMAAL, SOMALI123, BOONDHEERE. Hadaad kulugiin isu wada tagtaan Udub
jeexi ma gaadhaan. Hinaase aan meelna idiin wadin baa idin madax maray. Waxse
yaable kuwa la bah sheegteen yacba odhanayn. Mise Iidoor waa isma dhaantiyo
dhasheed.? Sidii mudane Hirad yidhi waxaad leedihiin
Waan kala hayaaye igu soo hagaaji
Awal haday ahayd waan hoyanayaa, hadda waa Naa sii hagaaji waan kue. Gaala darisoow waxaan hadalba ii cuslayn Iidoor Afdhogor oonba wuu dili
intiinan nasiibka qurbaha u hasheyna Aidska iyo khamraduba way dili.
Sidii caruurta kolkay sheeda ka arkaan Iidoor bidhaantii odhan jiray
IIDOOR AF DHOGOR AYDUU KUDAA EEDAADIYAA.......
Waa in la idiinla qasto, saa jooga diide'e
Udub ku caraabi oo waxaad tidhaahdaa:
Qarjajafo Qudhaanjadu gashiyo Qori jabkuu daadshay
Qaranqaaro nama joojisee waa Bir qalaxdaase.
Wad IIdoor.
Abdirahman Osman
In article <5d1iaa$3...@freenet-news.carleton.ca>,
dp...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Rashid Adam) wrote:
Sidii mudane Hirad yidhi waxaad leedihiin
> Waan kala hayaaye igu soo hagaaji
> Awal haday ahayd waan hoyanayaa, hadda waa Naa sii hagaaji waan kue.
Rashid,
Qabiil qabiil isku caaya haddad rabtaan laakiin walaalow waa idin
baryayaaye gabdhaha Soomaaliyeed oo meesha lagu caynayo iska dhaafa.
Hooyooyinkeen waaye waxaad wax ka sheegaysaan. Gabar haddaad la
caytamaysid gabarnimadeeda Rabbi siiyey meel ha uga dhicina ee waxyaabo
kale ku qabsada. Kalmadaha kor ku qoran waxaad u malaynaysaa inay hal
gabar kaliya khusayso laakiin dib u feker. Midda labaad gabdhaha mar walba
ayagaa la baryaa hadana wax laga sheegaa. Taas ceeb waaye.
C/Raxmaan.
MR AH ABDULLAHI
In article <5d1iaa$3...@freenet-news.carleton.ca> dp...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Rashid Adam) writes:
>From: dp...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Rashid Adam)
>Subject: Iidoor Dabacayuun
>Date: 2 Feb 1997 08:12:58 GMT
Rashid,
Gaala darisoow waxaan hadalba ii cuslayn Iidoor Afdhogor oonba wuu dili
>intiinan nasiibka qurbaha u hasheyna Aidska iyo khamraduba way dili.
>Sidii caruurta kolkay sheeda ka arkaan Iidoor bidhaantii odhan jiray
>IIDOOR AF DHOGOR AYDUU KUDAA EEDAADIYAA.......
>Waa in la idiinla qasto, saa jooga diide'e
>Udub ku caraabi oo waxaad tidhaahdaa:
>Qarjajafo Qudhaanjadu gashiyo Qori jabkuu daadshay
>Qaranqaaro nama joojisee waa Bir qalaxdaase.
>Wad IIdoor.
This the language the Dung beetles understand most.A tit for a tat is a fair
game and they had set the precedent!
Abdirashid.
Daud7
Mr Rashid,
Asalamu Aliakum,
Your writing is full of hate and blunt lie. Why you put in use such wicked
title to destroy any meanful understanding between foaming folks.
Cyberspace rift shouldn't take anyone into such hate fearmongering as you
employed your article.
Remember, as member of Isaq family, your naked attack on Issaq serve
nothing but your sinster thinking in the age of reasoning and
understanding.
Btw, if you want to play more ritual trible play with certain team, go
your paltry for more cultural sabotage. Don't be blinded by your ego to
attack savegely on honarable clan.
Having said harshly that, I'm still bound the believe, untill islamic
value take lead of our way of thinking, mindset pariah will last long. And
that's why I was very caustious to my previous follow up in Udub's
article!!.
After this harsh reaction to your article, you wonder why Ina Daud of way
of writing this time into more explicit arena?!!!. And anwser is in hand.
Because your title was more heinous than anything I've red so far in this
forum, as well as your unnecessary generalization.
If you're offended by this- which I'm sure it's- be careful for your
future posting.
Abdi Isse Da'ud
A. H. H. Hirad
Rashid Adam wrote:
> Sidii mudane Hirad yidhi waxaad leedihiin
> Waan kala hayaaye igu soo hagaaji
---
Rashid:
Please, don't misquote me! My debate is with Awo, Hayan, Boondheere and
those who kow tow to clan mentality.
I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST THE ISSAQ CLAN.
IDOOR DABACAYUUN = DAAROOD DABACAYUUN. Just depends on the perspective.
Several individuals = The whole Clan is untrue statement. Example, say,
since you insulted Issaq, how about if one retaliates and insults your
clan!
Deal with those individuals and stay away from blanket statement. Take
it from me.
Regards,
Hirad
MR AH ABDULLAHI
In article <19970202214...@ladder01.news.aol.com> da...@aol.com (Daud7) writes:
>From: da...@aol.com (Daud7)
>Subject: Re: Iidoor Dabacayuun
>Date: 2 Feb 1997 21:41:24 GMT
Mudane Daud,
Assalaamu Aleika ya Sheikh.
>Your writing is full of hate and blunt lie. Why you put in use such wicked
>title to destroy any meanful understanding between foaming folks.
>Cyberspace rift shouldn't take anyone into such hate fearmongering as you
>employed your article.
I honestly believe your article is misplaced and misdirected at the wrong
people. In your article, it explicitly becomes clear that you accuse the
victim of hatemongers and the dung beetles company and not the aggressors
and hatemongers! Attack the source of the disease if you want to stop its
spreading!
>Remember, as member of Isaq family, your naked attack on Issaq serve
>nothing but your sinster thinking in the age of reasoning and
>understanding.
This again should have been directed to the Dung Beetles (group of the
Iidoor) for justice sake! Or is it despite your vociferous islamic
preaching, there is a part of you that will never tell your clansmen to Stop
what they are doing, and are only too eager to point 'reaction' by the
victim of the whole saga?
>Btw, if you want to play more ritual trible play with certain team, go
>your paltry for more cultural sabotage. Don't be blinded by your ego to
>attack savegely on honarable clan.
Yet again this message of yours should be addressed to the initiators of
what you call 'ritual trible play' but what the cavers call more succinctly '
the Dung beetle company'.
>Having said harshly that, I'm still bound the believe, untill islamic
>value take lead of our way of thinking, mindset pariah will last long. And
>that's why I was very caustious to my previous follow up in Udub's
>article!!.
I did not know until now the wadaadatha whom I held so much respect for '
"could wear different shirts or in your case different Khamis" to suit
their goals. Why am I saying this? Well so far you have failed the litmus
test of addressing the issues raised by the Dung beetles but have only been
too obsessed with responding in a most blatant manner to the victims as if
they have not had enough from the dung beetles.
>After this harsh reaction to your article, you wonder why Ina Daud of way
>of writing this time into more explicit arena?!!!. And anwser is in hand.
>Because your title was more heinous than anything I've red so far in this
>forum, as well as your unnecessary generalization.
Atleast this title was more open and honest. Moreover it was a reaction
to the preceeding title. What of the Title Ogaadeen? Did you even in the
most polite manner question the motives behind those who started that
thread?
>If you're offended by this- which I'm sure it's- be careful for your
>future posting.
>
In fact, ina Daud, b4 now I had much respect for what you stood for. But hey
I believe I was mistaken if for what ever reason you, as the religious
authority(or so I beleived!) can not tell your clansmen stop their
hatemongering what makes you believe people like me (who have been at the
recieving end of Ogaden bashers because of the Dung Beetles you know very
well who they are)would give much credibility to your writing?
So far, I can assure you that you have let down the aspirations of many
Somalis who believed that Islamic rule will be the last solution for
Somalia. At least not with the wadaad like you having double standards
being around.
You must be wondering why I am harsh with you also? Please I just want to
elucidate the hypocracy in the stand you have chosen so far!
May Allah (SWT) guide our Ulumaa U deen so that they do not take sides in
our struggle to find solutions for our problems.
Abdirashid.
Rashid Adam
Mr. Ina Daud,
Wacalayka Assalaam,
Inaad damqatood kutubta tuurto waa la sugayey. Xageebaad ku maqnayd
kolkuu Afku dhogore dad uusan gaadhi karin burush xaarka leh sidaa
ugu firdhinayey. Waligaa war jooja ma tidhi. Jawaabtu waa maya, oo
waad ku raaxaysanaysay waxa CAWO, HAYAN,OMAR OTHMAN, SOMALI 123,GORSIE
Midka Tigreega aheed Xididka tihiin, Naanaabkii Ciidagalee Sacad Siciid,
iyo kuwa la mid ihi markay qudhunka iyo warxumada ceelkan laga wada
Cabo la taagnaayeen Ogaadeen waa sidan iyo waa sidan.
Hayga sugin waan waan danbiyo inaan walaaloowno!!!
Xagoona madaxaan kaaga taagnaan, Halkana intaad Qasateenoo kale
tirso.
IIDOORKA II DOORIDAA INANTU NOO KEENTAY
WAR AFKU DHOGORADII BAA KIBRAYE ILMADA HA IKA DUUGEENE
ALWAAX IYO SIDII LOOXYO JABAY EBER (ZERO) HA QAATEENE.
Xagee baad geli kitaab beenloow Akhirana waan kaaga horeeyaaye.
Wad Iidoor.
Habib Abdi
Rashidow, ma noo sheegi kartaa waxa adiga iyo raggan wareersan(123, O. othman, M. Omar, etc.) ee aad ku sheegtay Idoorka waxa aad kukula duwan tihiin.
Siday aniga ilatahay majirto habayaraatee waxaad uga duwantahay nimankaa cadaystay neceebka ay uqabaan qabiil dhan oo Somaliyeed-Darood. Haddii aadan sidoodoo
kale aanan neceyb aad u qabto qabiil Somaliyeed-Isaq feeraha kaa buuxin ma aadan
aflagaadayn lahayn qabiil dhan oo Somaliyed hadalo raqiis ah oo ay soo tuurtureen dhowr nin oo maskax ka jiran una baahan gargaar dhekhtereed oo deg deg ah.
Nabadeey
Daud7
Mr Rashid
Asalamu Calaykum
I thought your're reason man but I was wrong since you wrongly believe I
played loudly all type of nepostim against Ogaden people while everyone
knows my stand and my struggle against some of these bogus hawks in so
called Somalilandnet and Xnomadnet for the issue of Ogaden region and
people.
I'm relatively new to this SCS as everyone knows and my record speaks
loudly without waiting anyone gratitude. Where I've been rest since?. In
Somalilandnet and Xnomadnet frontiers, venturing to a destiny that never
dared anyone before. To know the correctiness of this statement...Please
read my follow up to Abdirashid's article then re-consider what U uttered
unnecessary.
Before I go, let me state clearly, my conviction was never weaken by Igal
boys before and I don't think you will. My rejection to this title "Idoor
dabacayuun" remain firm as I rejected before loudly anything that set to
damage reputation of Ogadens and their struggles in the hands of Igals
bullies etc or demon any Somali tribes. If that's Kutubbo xoor fanicma
kutubbo xoor.
Ina Da'ud
MR AH ABDULLAHI
In article <19970203154...@ladder01.news.aol.com> da...@aol.com (Daud7) writes:
>From: da...@aol.com (Daud7)
>Subject: Re: Iidoor Dabacayuun
Ina Daud,
What does it take if you tell your folks to stop their hatemongering?And
secondly, Did you question those who started that thread"Ogadeen" and the
motives behind their sending it?
Thirdly, Would you mind to give pieces of advice from the Holy Quraan to
the Dung Beetles for they seem to be in need of some basic 'Quraan akhris"
on them? That is if you really believe in the scriptures.
Fourthly,always look at the SOURCE of the cyber-conflict and not at the
"consequences".
Fifthly, take Tadesse's advice and as a "religous man" (which I am starting
to doubt" either be impartial in the conflict OR stay away
alltogether.
Abdirashid
Daud7
Mr Abdirashiid,
Asalaamu Alaikum
I never lost my sanity or conviction I stand for when I raised my concern
not to catogeries whole clan into this fashion. To prove that, I never
failed to your litmus, please read my follow up to Udub and how I was
very cautious and fair to him not as explicit as Udub personaly
acknowleged. equally so, not as some brothers did followed up Mr Udub's
alleged article which proven later its hasten and naiveness and cast doubt
its authencity so far.
Mr Abdirashid, if you think I misdirected and misplaced my article to the
victums I'm happy to disagree with you gently. I wasn't talking
collectively, just I was responding to one article written by one person
whom I saw out of norms.. I'm very surprised and shocked that you never
consider my stand and critics on those whom you call them the Dung beetle
company when I followed up Udub article.
So, it was unnecessary to your strong conclustion to labell on me a man
who can wear easily different khamis to reach his goal. Cafallaahu canka.
That doesn't I've shorcoming when dealing any issue related to Somalia or
else.
Mr Abdirashid, where were you when Sacad Siciid attacked viciously on Omar
Khatib and I rushed from Xnomadnet to defend him?. Did anyone of you said
anything about that or even dare to defend him?. Or he is gun aan la
taaban karin as my foe in Somalilandnet said to me in the hight of his
mayhem?. Don't get me wrong, just I want to draw simply analogy. More than
that, where were you when I was defending day in day out Ogaden Jihaad
against Abyssinanian aggression using OGADEN Name without out embarssing
while such big scholars Like Omar stay using alternate name "Western
Somalia" untill many of my people thought I was Ogdeen in blood.
Subsequently, paid hefty price for my stand.
Mr Abdirashid, where were you when I stood firmly the cause of Ogaden in
Somalilandnet and Xnomadnet as Jihaad flares reached all over Ogaden
region?. About title of Ogaadeens...Did Sh, Omar, Heebaan, Waylac etc
whom are distinguished Somali scholars said anything about it? or
questioned its validity?. Why me?. On the otherhand do we asked to check
the motives?.
The man who raised this question "Ogaadeens" has no sanity in his art
difference inside durriyah when he labells least anyone whom he disagree
with him as he/she is Darood as he done to me many times!!.
I have respects to some brothers Like Jamaal and likes but Don't ask me
Hayan and likes whom their world are limited by Igal's eyebrows. They're
not different from any Somali group out there be Hawiyas, Daroods etc who
play this ritual trible play vigoursly and viciously.
Finally, to eloborate your unlogic elucidate of my hypocracy, I will
re-post one of many articles posted in Somalilandnet on 15th may, 1996
under the email: <Motherland...@neversomaliland.com> to let you
know and all browsers who is defending Ogaden people in the face Amhara.
Equally so, to prove your follow up was out of proprotion and cruel.
The article goes this way.
"Empty shell will never held any truth"
"I have been out of this net for a while and when I returned today I found
my wild netter Iqra and his old bad habits filled in this page. When
someone lacks the principle, it doesn't matter to him tocry for these
nonsenses!!. If someone feels he is overwhelmed by evidence and truth, its
not suprisable to look shelter under these mayhem and stupidity!!. This
man "Iqra" (which I suspect alternate name of Hayan) not always stand to
divide this family and this nation who yearn stability and understanding,
but also work hard to create new enemies to our family!!.
Today, since he is feeling desperate and isolation among our family or at
least intellecual spectrum, he extended his big mouth to our brethren
neighbours "the Ogadenians". If he ever cares the well being of our people
he will never insult Ogadenians or others. The economic and range
interdependcy of these two tribes are something obvious. Yes, we might
have some political differences due to this ritual trible play that
prevailed in Somalia, but real durriyah will not allow to their fellow
Ogadens to become a prey for Tigrean machine or insulted like this
childish moaning...........No one, I repeat loudly and proudly no one
except to his childish nonsense he represent in this open arena. To those
whom he dumed by these names, please have an easy breath. The real
belivers (sincer muslims) will not endorse to cultural idols projected
against you!!. Finally, Somaliland was/is and will be forever a bogus name
that never held any truth!!".
So Mr Abdirashid, is this and other writings are hypocracy or double talk
that I have chosen so far or it's another straight record that is
difficult to challenge and acknowledge. I'm not asking you any kind of
apology but I hope you brave to acknowledge your judgement was rush and
strong conclusion.
Let we differentiate ducaads and others. Let we embrace all islamic value
to stop this type of wasting effort and time. Let clan bashing remain in
the minded few misguided low life people. Let intellecuals have sanity and
brave to stop generalization. Let we attack together on our source of
ignorance. Let this forum remain free from pre-mindset agenda. We can do
that Allah willing if we have will, vision and sincerity.
Allaahuma Alif bayna quluubinaa wajmacnaa calal xaq.
Abdi Isse Da'ud
MR AH ABDULLAHI
In article <19970203175...@ladder01.news.aol.com> da...@aol.com (Daud7) writes:
>From: da...@aol.com (Daud7)
>Subject: Re: Iidoor Dabacayuun
Ina Daud,
Jazaka Allah for your long struggle against the evil forces of destruction
and hate.
I am sorry and I send you my apologies which as a man of religion you will
accept.However, all I had asked in my previous posts was to be explicit (
clear)in denouncing the Dung beetles and all they stand for.I too very well
remember you in Nomadnet and I am sure you remember me for my stand.It has
never changed.
So Cafuwan canka.
Afoorad wanagsan.
Abdirashid.
Daud7
Bro Abdirashid,
Asalamu Aliakum
I accepted your sincere apology that you have sent to me and may Allah
reward us all with his bounty. Bro, denouncing to some of these men was
minor issue to me. Becuase, I do have with Hayan and likes long long fight
over more than issue in Somalilandnet.
So, I seldom feel bothering to their pickering. I became their taboo. To
him and likes I was Sahra Jama, Mahdi, Faisal, and list goes on. More
than that, I was to him, Abib, Gun Burco kabaha ku toli jidhay ama geeli
u raaci jidhay!!. So, I didn't see anything new to their bubbling in the
cave.
What bothers me and need more islamic clarification is to what some of my
colleague has uttered in the wake of this ritual trible play. And that
will be when their writing is lasted.
Again, Thank you very much for braving to deliever an apology to your
brother. Let we all acknowledege in ourshortcoming and mistakes and have
faith on our sincere ducaads who live in their words.
Btw, now I remembered your name and your stand and envision in Xnomadnet
and may Allah guide us all to the right path.
Ina Daud
MR AH ABDULLAHI
In article <19970205041...@ladder01.news.aol.com> da...@aol.com (Daud7) writes:
>From: da...@aol.com (Daud7)
>Subject: Re: Iidoor Dabacayuun
Ina Daud,
Once again I am so sorry to have grouped you in the "Dung Beetle Company".
You definitely DONOT belong there.It is a man with guts to apologise and it
takes a man with greater guts to accept an apology. You have my unwavering
respect and My Allah(SWT) forgive us for our sins.
Regards,
Abdirashid.
jonesey
Daud7 wrote:
>
> Bro Abdirashid,
>
>
Well done.
I hope the rest of us will follow your example.
Muhsin
Omar Khadhib
Rashid Adam wrote:
>
> Mr. Ina Daud,
>
> Wacalayka Assalaam,
>
> Inaad damqatood kutubta tuurto waa la sugayey.
Omar: Akh Rashiid hadalkaagan qayaxan waa laga quruxsan yahay in sidaa dadka
muslimiinta loola hadalana ma habboona. Hadduu ku yiri warkaada sax maahan si qabow uga
dood, oodda ha jiirin oo diintiisa wax ha ka sheegin. Yaa kuu sheegay inuu kutubbo xoor
yahay?. Ma waxuu kutubbo xoor ku noqonyaa inuu ku raddiyay matalan?.
> Hayga sugin waan waan danbiyo inaan walaaloowno!!!
> Xagoona madaxaan kaaga taagnaan, Halkana intaad Qasateenoo kale
> tirso.
>
Omar: Waxaad ku hadashay bal dib u fiiri qiimaha aqooneed ee uu xambaarsan yahay.
Waxaan shaki ku jirin inaad ka qoomamayn sida uu yiri Heebaan.
>
IIDOORKA II DOORIDAA INANTU NOO KEENTAY
> WAR AFKU DHOGORADII BAA KIBRAYE ILMADA HA IKA DUUGEENE
> ALWAAX IYO SIDII LOOXYO JABAY EBER (ZERO) HA QAATEENE.
>
Omar: Qabiil cayntu islaamku waa caayay bal islaamka halbeeg ka dhigo. Bal ka warran
hadii lagu yiraahdo:
Ogaadeen Ii dooridaa naagtu noo keentay
War cagdheer baa kibirtaye ilmada ha iga duugaane
Alwaax iyo oodo jabay eber ha joogeene.
> Xagee baad geli kitaab beenloow Akhirana waan kaaga horeeyaaye.
> Omar: yaa kuu sheegay inaad Daaud akhiro kaga itaal roon tahay?. Alle uga towban keen
hadalkaagan gaalnimada keeni kara waayo waxaad faraha la gashay qaybka Alle. Markaan
labadiin qoraal akhriyay Allaylahi Daaud kaa mowqif roon diiniyan iyo caqliyan ee
Rashiid waalow dib u cesho hadallan aan dadka qaban. Allana u towbad keen.
Abuu Xafsa, Omar Khadhib.
Daud7
Bro Muhsin,
Asalamu Aliakum and welcome to scs arena.
In the shreik of most rituals, people lose temper and sanity!. They
become obsessed for devotion and revenge for what they think smolder. As
bro Abdirashid said, "it's a man with guts to opologise and it takes a man
(definetly not like Ina Daud) with greater guts to accept an apology"
which very much true in Somali case.
If we want to succeed in this life and hereafter, let all brothers/sisters
put first the interest of brotherhood foundation before anything else. Let
we kill all together of snobbery that impede healthy debate and ruins
simple meanigful understanding among this community.Once this foundation
established on islam premises then we expect tears that follows from our
moms and childern turn into true smile.
May Allah forgive us for our all sins.
Ina Daud