TACSI (Sh. Cabdulaahi Sh. Ibraahim)
Abdulkadir Egal
Waxaa maalintii sabtida 22/March/97 ku geeriyooday DUBAI, U.A.E alaha u
naxariistee Shiikh Cabdulaahi Sh. Ibraahim (BAARDHEERE). Waxaan ilaahay
uga baryaynaa inuu asagana u dambi dhaafo, qoyskii iyo eheladii uu ka
tagayna inuu samir iyo iimaan ka siiyo.
Waxaa lagu aasi doonaa magaalada HEEMA, Soomaaliya maalinta isniinta
24/March/97.
Abdulkadir O. Egal
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Ahmed Yusuf
Inaa Li Laahi Wa inaa Ilayhi Raajicuun. Ilaahay ha u naxriisto Sh. Cabdullahi
jannada ferdowsana ha ka waraabiyo, aamin. Ehelkiisana samir iyo iimaan Ilaahay
ha siiyo, aamin.
Ahmed Yusuf
In article <333471...@nortel.ca>, eg...@nortel.ca says...
Abdirahman Osman
Walaal Abdulkadir:
Rabbi janada ha ka waraabiyo walaalkeen Shiikh Cabdulahi Sh. Ibrahim.
Aamiin. Eheladii iyo asxaabtii uu ka tegeyna Rabbi samir iyo iimaan haka
siiyo. Dhamaanteen dhimasho ayaa noo dnabeysa ee Rabbi Muslimeenta ha u
naxariisto.
Mar labaad, Allah ha u naxariisto Sheekh Cabdulaahi. Aamiin, aamiin.
Abdirahman.
Burhan Jama
In article <333471...@nortel.ca>, Abdulkadir Egal <eg...@nortel.ca> wrote:
>Waxaa maalintii sabtida 22/March/97 ku geeriyooday DUBAI, U.A.E alaha u
>naxariistee Shiikh Cabdulaahi Sh. Ibraahim (BAARDHEERE). Waxaan ilaahay
>uga baryaynaa inuu asagana u dambi dhaafo, qoyskii iyo eheladii uu ka
>tagayna inuu samir iyo iimaan ka siiyo.
>
>Waxaa lagu aasi doonaa magaalada HEEMA, Soomaaliya maalinta isniinta
>24/March/97.
>
>
>
>
>
> Abdulkadir O. Egal
> Nortel Technology
> Multimedia Communication Systems
> eg...@nortel.ca
War Cabdulkadir;
Samir iyo iimaan Alle ha inaga siiyo Shiikh Cabdulaahi Sh. Ibraahim oo ku
magac dheeraa BAARDHEERE. Ilaahay ha naxariisto aamiin.
Innaa li laahi, wa innaa ileyhi la raajicuun.
Burhan Jama
Daud7
Dear Brothers and Sisters
Asalamu Aliakum
I find myself strong to question the validity of such condolence without
mentioning the role of the man against islamic saxwa in Somalia. I used to
believe that he was in southern part of Somalia then moved to central part
of the country devoting all his time to wipe out Somali islamist from the
face of the nation.
Before his dying days he working hard to have strong affiliation of
Tigrean agenda in Somalia. Then the Maniyah come to him. This is what I
heard about this man. Didn't its wise to stand up our moral stand and
clearify the smoke?.
According to my poor islamic knowledge, condolence shows respect and
appreciation of what person stand in his/her life. If we apply this
formula on the deceased one we should find out our stand contradict loudly
his stand. Be careful this is not takfiir. Take note.
Abdi Isse Da'ud
faisal hassan
Waa maxay waalidan aan meel loogu soo gabado aan lahayn. Dadkii
geeriyoodayna waa ay ka baxsan la' yihiin ina Da'ad. Waryaarahayn maxaan
idin lahaa bal eega "af-xumadiisa?". Eebe ha u naxariisto Cabdulaahi iyo
dhamaan dadkii Soomaaliyeed ee eeriyooday. Aamin.
Nabad
Faisal Hassan.
Abdirahman Osman
Brother Daud:
Since I am one of the members who prayed Allah for Sh. Abdallah, I
couldn't help replying to your article as soon as I read it.
Daud7 wrote:
>
> Dear Brothers and Sisters
>
> Asalamu Aliakum
>
> I find myself strong to question the validity of such condolence without
> mentioning the role of the man against islamic saxwa in Somalia. I used to
> believe that he was in southern part of Somalia then moved to central part
> of the country devoting all his time to wipe out Somali islamist from the
> face of the nation.
>
Brother Daud, I never heard of brother Abdulah before but his name
clearly shows that he was a man with deep Islamic believes because of
his religious title. He may had some disagreement or confrontations with
other groups in the same Islamic umbrella, but Islam is one and should
never be divided into arch enemy sub-groups. Also, never, in prophet
Mohamed(SAWS) time did two Islamic groups fight, therefore, we must be
careful and cautious on judging someone's believes, only because he/she
doesn't see things the way you do. In this person's mind, you may be
wrong even though you read the same Kitab and haddiths.
> Before his dying days he working hard to have strong affiliation of
> Tigrean agenda in Somalia. Then the Maniyah come to him. This is what I
> heard about this man.
You based your analysis on "I heard" without any convincing evidence.
Can this be short of rumors, which Islam clearly forbids and calls it
like eating your dead brother's body. Also, every person's deeds will be
judged by Allah, and Allah alone.
>Didn't its wise to stand up our moral stand and clearify the smoke?.
What smoke to clarify? Do you think that brother Abdullah was not Muslim
at all? If so, why? In my believe, every Muslim needs Allah's rahma
and if someone is not willing to pray for another muslim he/she had
better choose not confuse others.
>
> According to my poor islamic knowledge, condolence shows respect and
> appreciation of what person stand in his/her life. If we apply this
> formula on the deceased one we should find out our stand contradict loudly
> his stand. Be careful this is not takfiir. Take note.
>
According to your Islamic understanding, can you please tell me and the
others who may have the same idea as mine, where in the Kitab and the
prophet's(SAWS) teaching, it says we cannot pray Allah for a fellow
muslim unless we make a full investigation of his past. Allah will not
ask us the deeds of brother Sh. Abdullah but he'll ask us ours. What
will you say if you meet brother Abdalah in here after and he says
"Brother Daud made baseless allegations against me after my death?"
I am telling you this because I see you as one of the members who are
worth correcting. It would have been better if you started another
thread about this issue with general approach to all the people against
"Islamists" instead of asking questions about the validity of wishing
well for a fellow Somali/Muslim brother who just died recently. What do
you have to tell his close family who lost a dear family member? I think
you owe an apology to them.
Again, I pray Allah for Sh. Abdallah and all Muslims thru out the world
for Alah's pardon and Rahma.
> Abdi Isse Da'ud
Abdirahman.
Abdulkadir Egal
Daud7 wrote:
>
> Dear Brothers and Sisters
>
> Asalamu Aliakum
>
> I find myself strong to question the validity of such condolence without
> mentioning the role of the man against islamic saxwa in Somalia. I used to
> believe that he was in southern part of Somalia then moved to central part
> of the country devoting all his time to wipe out Somali islamist from the
> face of the nation.
>
> Tigrean agenda in Somalia. Then the Maniyah come to him. This is what I
> clearify the smoke?.
>
> appreciation of what person stand in his/her life. If we apply this
> formula on the deceased one we should find out our stand contradict loudly
> his stand. Be careful this is not takfiir. Take note.
>
Waa tan koowaade hadaad ku farxi lahayd iyo hadaad ka nixi lahaydba
waxaan leeyahay kun iyo kow jeer alaha u naxriisto Sh Cabdulaahi iyo
ummada islaamka ah oo dhan. Anagana kuwii fidmooba gadashiis ale nagama
yeelo. Tan labaad, hadii aad wax sheegayso wax murti leh baa la sheegaa
ama waa la iska aamusaa. Sh Cabdulaahi camalkiisii aakhiruu la joogaa
ilaahay baana xukmin doona, adiguse kaaga ka fakar saad u hagaajin
lahayd.
Dhowr sano ka hor waxaan ka mid ahaa dadkii asaasay scs, indhowaalana
ma akhrin, sababtoo ah waxaa ku batay qoraalo badan oo aan u qalmin
in wakhtiga qaaliga ah lagu dhumiyo. Ayna qoreen adiga iyo dad yaroo
kula mida. SCS looma aasaasin in dad dhintay lagu aflagaadeeyo, ee
waxaan u asaasnay in lagu soo bandhigo loogana doodo fikrado diinteena,
dadkeena, iyo dalkeenaba wax u taraya. Hadaba wax fikradoo qiime leh
ma haysaa?
C/qaadir
--
Daud7
Mr Faisal;
You can cry and insult day in day out as you're vanguard of scs while you
have no guts to understand the God fearing legitimate right to correct or
raise question. When you will let others to have meaningful share in this
forum.
Btw, tacsi subject is serious matter, be advised, it's not political
society debate..
Ina Da'ud
J.J.Jama
Abdulkadir Egal :
Thanks for pointing out that,
How much more some one can be selfish, on one hand He is begging
people to pray for him because he is traveling, Fair=85 and on the
other hand denies people to pray for Muslim Sheiks and leader
What a contradiction =85 !! After all , we all face Allah what we did
when we were well and live not what the well wish=92s do when
we expire.
J.J.Jama
faisal hassan
On 1 Apr 1997, Daud7 wrote:
> Mr Faisal;
> You can cry and insult day in day out as you're vanguard of scs while you
> have no guts to understand the God fearing legitimate right to correct or
> raise question. When you will let others to have meaningful share in this
> forum.
I don't cry. I go out and claim what is mine. Where are you evidence Mr.
Da'ud? I did question your integrity as a cave member and you turn around
and employ your tactics of "hide and seek" strategy? You see, I told you
to "drive safe and drink less Samsam." This advise was a reply to a very
important occassion for you because you were travelling. All over sudden,
you and Mr. Omar translated as being insult. I differ to disagree. Show me
where I insulted day in and day out? "Ka fiirso intaadan Falin" waa
maahmaah Soomaaliyeed.
> Btw, tacsi subject is serious matter, be advised, it's not political
> society debate..
> Ina Da'ud
Da'ud waxa kale oo kugu haboon "Hasha geela cunta ee misna cabaada". Adiga
ayaa afka xun la galay "marxuun" Soomaaliyeed oo aad ka hadshay wakhti aan
loo baahnayd in laga hadlo taariikhda "marxuunka". Shame on you. Indeed,
it is a serious matter. Tixgeli dadka nool iyo kuwa dintay oo iska daa
waxa Mudane Udub ugu yeeray "dhuumaalaysiga"
Nabad
Faisal.
SAFIA
Daud7 wrote:
>
> Dear Brothers and Sisters
>
> Asalamu Aliakum
>
> I find myself strong to question the validity of such condolence without
> mentioning the role of the man against islamic saxwa in Somalia. I used to
> believe that he was in southern part of Somalia then moved to central part
> of the country devoting all his time to wipe out Somali islamist from the
> face of the nation.
>
> Before his dying days he working hard to have strong affiliation of
> Tigrean agenda in Somalia. Then the Maniyah come to him. This is what I
> heard about this man. Didn't its wise to stand up our moral stand and
> clearify the smoke?.
>
> According to my poor islamic knowledge, condolence shows respect and
> appreciation of what person stand in his/her life. If we apply this
> formula on the deceased one we should find out our stand contradict loudly
> his stand. Be careful this is not takfiir. Take note.
>
> Abdi Isse Da'ud
Assalamu 'alaykum,
Brother Abdi Isse,
Your denigrating remarks will not hurt the dead neither will they shut
the door of Mercy to this desceased Sheikh. His soul is in the Hands of
Allah and He alone has the Keys of Heaven and Hell. Let the
Compassionate One be the Judge:
*No bearer of burden can bear the burden of another*.
But take my word for it, brother, your thoughtlessness hurts the living
and will add to the grief of the bereaved family, you need to take back
your words. Your retort was uncalled for. And this puts your credibility
(as a God-fearing person) on the line. Talking ill of the dead is *not*
an Islamic trait. May Allah forgive you your thoughtlessnes. Aamin.
Wassalam
P.S.
Sh. Cadulaahi Sh. Ibrahim is a relative of mine. He was also married to
my aunt who passed away a few years ago. Sh. Cabdulaahi was an old man
and was unwell the best part of the last 8 years and brother Abdi Isse's
allegations are based on pure conjecture.
Abdulkadir Egal
J.J.Jama wrote:
>
> Abdulkadir Egal :
> Thanks for pointing out that,
> How much more some one can be selfish, on one hand He is begging
> other hand denies people to pray for Muslim Sheiks and leader
> when we were well and live not what the well wish’s do when
> we expire.
>
>
Jama, Abdirahman iyo Faisal:
Waxay ila tahay ina-Da'ud in la wada garanayo wuxuu yahay
iyo meeshuu ka soo jeedaba. Laba wajiilanimada hada lama
uu imaane waa wuxuu ku dhashay. Haduu sharaf leeyahay
mar horuu oran lahaa waa khaldamee raali ahaade.
Waad ku mahadsantihiin ina-Da'ud khaladkiisa aad tusteen.
--
Mahadsanidiin
Daud7
Cavers;
As many aware of, the intellectual debate in scs has a new setting when we
deal very serious topic related to our religion. The death of person and
condolence to his family- regarless of his stand- is well documented and
practiced over the course of centures. Somali social domain never saw such
questioning of the validity of premium condolence that most of people pay
without back up. Dictator Siyad and Aidid was not exceptional.
Now; Cabdillaahi Baardheere represent one of the most ritaul trible face
in Somali course. On one hand; he tried to unite sub family under the
banner of his bidcas. On the other hand he worked hard to disloge Somali
domain from islamic saxwa.
Leading sub clan into unknown destiny was not something easy. When his
father died in Bardheere; all over sudden his grave become a shrine to
escape from the woes of material world!!!. This grave had become the
destiny of many followers. Their demand varied from blunder reguest of
passing examination to prescribing the ultimate prescribtion of all moral
and social woes of Somali domain.
According to my knowledge; this man never taught anyone islamic sharia let
alone recite quran collectively rather teach himself to what quran and
sunnah said his bidcas. He was big suufi whose world was different from
the world of islam.
Islamically; you shouldn't make condolence to someone whose name was
known beause against islamic saxwa. We say MAY ALLAH GIVE HIM WHAT HE
DESERVE!! This is what culimas says always about this matter. IF maniyah
or death comne to him and make towbah before his death let me know it.
To J.J.Jama
Your comment landed on plain error. You can question if you have hadith
and sunnah to what Allah said and find out from you quran what does mean
altawxiid.
To Abdiqaadir; You shouldn't speak like that way. Spare energy and speak
knowledge. This Khuraafi stood beside Amxara as he tried hard to stop
ducaad getting into Gaalkacyo. For maore information ask Southern scholar
J. Abdisalam.
Ina Da'ud
Hassey Abdullahi
I was keenly reading your articles about this man, i know personally
this man and how the Ziyarah of his father became the dating place for
some people,don't mentiont only his bad deeds, the man also did build
several mosques in Bardheere and the nearby Sarinley which are know in
hands of the rijalu saxwa, so you can never say if Allah will for give
him because of that.Lastly brothers/sisters let this man face his deeds
infront of Allah but not infront of us.
Abdulkadir Egal
Ina Dau'd;
Waxaan ku waydiiyey weligaa qof masaajid la keenay oo jenaaso lagu
tukanayo wax ma uga tukatay? Hadaad ku tukatayse, ma imaamkaad u tagtoo
tiri ha la ii soo bixiyo buugii qofkaan xasanaadkiisa iyo sayi'aadkiisa
lagu qori jirey? mase malaa'igtaa kuu sheegtay inuu ehelu jano yahay?
Maxaad ku ogaatay inuu qof kaasu ehelu jano yahay markaad akhirinaysey
ducada "ilaahow hanaga qadin ajarkiisa, hanana fidneyn dabadiis, una
naxariiso anaga iyo asagaba"
Sh. Cabdulaahi alaha u nariistee nin dadkiisa iyo dalkiisaba wax u taray
ayna ka danbeeyeen oo xushmo iyo qadarin ka mudan buu ahaa. Qayb weyn
buu ka qaatay maanta nabada ka jirta bari iyo riseef, oo soomaali oo
dhani magan u tahay, nabadna ay ku haystaan. Lana mid ma aha
labawajiilayaasha aad ka soo jeedo oo marna soomaali sheegta marana
xabashida u jaajuusi jirey. Gaalkacyo wixii xumaan wada ama ha u
dhasheen ama fidmo inay ka dhaliyaan ha u yimaadeene waa loo diidayaa.
Ha isku dayin inaad itixaad magacood ku hadasho, maxaa yeelay ma matali
kartid. J. Cabdisalaan af buu leeyahay, soomaaliduna waxay tiraahdaa "af
jooga looma adeego". Waxaad doonaysey bay ila tahay wax camal
la'aantaada kuu wehel yeela, dacdaadana kula qasta, ee shuqul yeelo.
C/qaadir
MGiama Isse
Daud7 wrote:
> Islamically; you shouldn't make condolence to someone whose name was
> known beause against islamic saxwa. We say MAY ALLAH GIVE HIM WHAT HE
> DESERVE!! This is what culimas says always about this matter. IF maniyah
> or death comne to him and make towbah before his death let me know it.
>
Fadiilatu Sheekh Abdi Isse Daud:
Assalaama calaykum wa Raxmatullahi wa Barakaatuhu! Salaan
kaddib, walaal waxaan jeclaystay inaan kuu sheego in dadka
caamada ah, oon ka mid ahay, ay ku wareerayaan is-haysadka
culimada oo xitaa qubuuraha isku deyn waayay!
Qayb sax ah iyo mid qaldan kolley anigu ma aqoon karo, waxaase
ila habboon in khilaafkiinnu uusan xushmada guud ka boodin. Bal
xusuuso sidii ay isu khilaafeen afartii Imaam ee madaahibta Islaamka
iyo sida ay mar kasta isu qaddarin jireen.
Maansada soo socota waxaan ku cabbirayaa aragtida caamada
dhaqanleyda ah, kaftan-dhablana kama marnee iga oggolow:
Adduunyadan walaahowdayee waabadka idlaysay!
Adduunyadan wacdiga kii lahaa weerar kicinaayo
Adduunyadan wadaadkii dhintaa waaqle lagu jeedin!
Weger iyo ka waasacan wexeer waranka loo qaatay
Weydiin qubuureed miyaa golahan loo waabtay?
Daauud walaalkeen miyaa wada su’aashiiba?
Weydii Ilaah towbadoo waani garadkaaga!
Ka wareego weedhii xun iyo warammo tuurtuurka!
Noo sheeg wacdiga Eebbe iyo Nebiga weedhiisa!
Nabadgelyo iyo Naxariista Eebbe ha kuu sugnaato,
Ciise
Macne iyo ula jeeddo:
Walaahow = confusion
Weydiin qubuureed = waxaa loo jeedaa tii Munkar iyo Nakiir (su’aasha qabriga)
su’aashiiba = waa su’aasha qabriga
Saciid Maxamuud Maxamed
Subject: Re: TACSI (Sh. Cabdulaahi Sh. Ibraahim)
Date: 3 Apr 1997 07:17:35 GMT
From: da...@aol.com (Daud7)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.somalia
References: <333C5C...@nortel.ca>
>From: da...@aol.com (Daud7)
>Cavers;
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>On the other hand he worked hard to disloge Somali domain from
>islamic saxwa.
Taa macneheedu, ma in baraarug (saxwa) islaam oo keliyii jiraa , kaas
keliyiina toosan yahay. sidaa darteed ninkastoo ka hor yimaada ma
toosna. qaloocnaantaasi waa waa mid ay tahay hadda in ay inaka saxaan
wadaada arragtida Sacuudiyeysana ama Masriyeysan ee islaamka kala timi
dhulkaa ay soo joogeen. Markaa soomaalidii hore islaamkooda waa loo
toosinayaa oo baadil iyo waxba kama jiraan bay ahaayeen baad ku
socotaa.
Daa'uud, intaadan madhabaha cusub oo debedda inakaga yimi, sax
keligood ka dhigin, dhamaanna soomaalidda khalad ka dhigin dib isugu
noqon oo bal miisaan caddaali ah saar.
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> He was big suufi whose world was different from the world of islam.
............................
Suufiyaddu ma debi baa gebi ahaateedu. Goormay saa noqotay. Mise waa
iskuul balaadhan oo le dadkiisa wanaagsan oo badan, lagana heli karo,
maadaana gefayaal la wada yahay, dad leexsan oo isku tiiriya. Sida
maanta , shiikha ugu weyn dacwadda sacuudiga ka soo jeeda u gefayo;
waxaan u jeedaa Eebe debigiisa iyo keenaba ha dhaafee , Ibnu Baas.
............
>Islamically; you shouldn't make condolence to someone whose name was
>known beause against islamic saxwa. We say MAY ALLAH GIVE HIM WHAT HE
>DESERVE!! This is what culimas says always about this matter. IF maniyah
>or death comne to him and make towbah before his death let me know it.
Culimadda ma kuwa gaar ah baa. Weli islaamig saxwa qolo ayaad u
tiirinaysaa. qolooyika kalena wax kuma taal baad ka dhigaysaa.
>To Abdiqaadir; You shouldn't speak like that way. Spare energy and speak
>knowledge. This Khuraafi stood beside Amxara as he tried hard to stop
>ducaad getting into Gaalkacyo. For maore information ask Southern scholar
>J. Abdisalam.
> Ina Da'ud
Nabadgelyo
Saciid Suugaan
SAFIA
Assalamu 'alaykum,
Our Prophet, salla allahu alaihi wassalim, said:
A man once said: By Allah, Allah will not forgive So-and-so. At this
Allah the Almighty said: Who is he who swears by Me that I will not
forgive So-and-so? Verily I have forgiven So-and-so and have nullified
your [own good] deeds (or as he said [it]
On the authority of Jundub (RA). It was related by Muslim.
I hope brother Daud is reading this hadith.
Allah is the Most Compassionate and He did not send Muhammad (SAW) but
as a Mercy to all Mankind.
Wassalam
Daud7
Waar Jaamac lagu Salaan Asalamu Calaykum
Goortaan idhaahdaba waydiintan hakad geli sow idinkaan i hororaya sow ma
ahan?. Iyamaa wanaagsan in la waydiiyo shakhsiga xujada doonaya iyo kan ka
biqlaynaya runta.
Culimadu way wada doodi jirtay wayna wada heshiin jidheen laakiin ma
jidhin kuwa shaadhka iyo dirayska culimada xidhoo dhagaxna tuur tuura.
Qolyihiinna Caamada ah maxaa idiin diidiy inaad daawadayaal noqotaan ama
su'aalaha badhi gantaaltaanoo gunaanad fiican doontaan.
Tixdaadii waxaan ka idhi jacburkan isoo dhaafey;
Walaalee baan lahaa wadarta Somaali
Wacdi u kala qaad baan lahaa way wahsanayaane
Naaxil ka dhowr baan lahaa waxidnimada Eebe
Waraabaha ka celi baan lahaa waaxidnimadooda
is wareenkooda lahaa wax ha ku qaataane
Waxay doonayaan baan lahaa wadar ku gaadhaane
Hayeeshee wanaaggii miyaa laysku maan dhaafay
durbada weedhii Ilaah lahaa miyaa laysu dacareeyey
Nimankaa calanka loo sudhiyo siriq tuuraya
Nimanka waranka sitiyo seefta iyo baaruudda
Nimankaa sibraarka u sitiyo sahay aqooneede
Nimankaa dixdii ay degaan damacna reebaynin
Nimankaa Soomali wayn sama la doonaynin
Nimanka amxaarada eyga u noqdee muslimna duuflaanin
Eebe magane miyaan miyaan magac wadaagnaa
I know it's poor peom but that was irtijaali. Anigu weligay ma gabyin ee
sidaa ula soco.
Abdi Isse Da'ud
MGiama Isse
Daud7 wrote:
> Qolyihiinna Caamada ah maxaa idiin diidiy inaad daawadayaal noqotaan ama
> su'aalaha badhi gantaaltaanoo gunaanad fiican doontaan.
> Tixdaadii waxaan ka idhi jacburkan isoo dhaafey;
>
> Walaalee baan lahaa wadarta Somaali
> Wacdi u kala qaad baan lahaa way wahsanayaane
> Naaxil ka dhowr baan lahaa waxidnimada Eebe
> Waraabaha ka celi baan lahaa waaxidnimadooda
> is wareenkooda lahaa wax ha ku qaataane
> Waxay doonayaan baan lahaa wadar ku gaadhaane
> I know it's poor peom but that was irtijaali. Anigu weligay ma gabyin ee
> sidaa ula soco.
Walaal Abdi:
Sidee ayay caamadu ku aamustaa dhabarkooda ayaa la isku haystaaye!
Ujeedada aad gabayga ku sheegtay waa mid wanaagsan, hase yeeshee
ogow in xanaftu ay xagal daacin karto hirgelinta ujeedadaba!
Muxuu yahay xalka laga sugi karaa dad iyagiiba isku
haysta in Sheekh geeriyooday loo duceeyo iyo in kale!
Waa taas midda caamada dhibaysaa.
Anigu waxaan jeclaan lahaa godka SCS oo duco ka yeerto,
aamiintuna mawleyso!
Dhinaca gabaygana waad ku mahadsan tahay! Waa intaas oo aad
ugala sii dhawaataa! Mase ogtahay inay jiraan dad gabyi kara,
hase ahaatee aanba ogay inay kartidaa leeyihiin!
Ilaahow aqoon darrana ha nagu cadaabin, eexna ha nooga tegin!
Tixgelin,
Ciise
Daud7
Correction: Waar maxaa gabayna lugaha noo geliyay (kaftan)
Nimankaa sibraarka u sitiyo sahay agooneede (not aqooneede).
If you see more wrong qaafiyah and meaning ignore it, because kama soo
maaxan gabyaa sugaanta u sahlan tahay.
Ina Da'ud
Omar Khadhib
Ukhtuna Safia
Asalaamu Calaykum waraxmatullaahi wabarakaatuhu
Akhuuna Cabdi Ciise waa thoughtless ama dhaa'ish iwm waxaan u arkaa in
laga quruxsan yahay oo luuqad kale oo ka habboon diiniyan oo quluubta
aanan wax ku reebin inay dadka ku wada hadlaan.
Cabdi Daauudna waxaan dhihi lahaa haddii aad masa'alad diiniyan ka
hadlayso ha ka tegin iyada oo qabyo ah ama ka si fiican oo faafaahsan
uga hadal ama ka aamus gebigeedaba. Dadka aannu si sahlan aannu diinta
ugu sheegno iyada oo aanan waxba laga tegin ama lagu gorgortamin usuusha
diinta.
Abuu Xafsa
SAFIA wrote:
>
>
> Assalamu 'alaykum,
>
> Brother Abdi Isse,
>
> Your denigrating remarks will not hurt the dead neither will they shut
> the door of Mercy to this desceased Sheikh. His soul is in the Hands of
> Allah and He alone has the Keys of Heaven and Hell. Let the
> Compassionate One be the Judge:
>
> *No bearer of burden can bear the burden of another*.
>
> But take my word for it, brother, your thoughtlessness hurts the living
> and will add to the grief of the bereaved family, you need to take back
> your words. ...
Daud7
Sister Safia
Asalamu Alaikum
With all due respect, I should say that nothing prevent me to disagre
with your last reaction.
First, In using such language ie thoughtless etc was unapropiate.
Secondly, your deduction of the verse has no relation to what I was aiming
to. Third, If the credibily of muslim been question just becuase he/she
had raised valid question then no diin will remain to muslim!!. All
muslims will be introuble. And you know that is not what Allah says in
Quran "Kuntum Khayra ummatin ukhrijan linnaasi...". Fourth, Talking ill
for the benefit of all is part of this religion. We shouldn't dismiss to
what has deep foundation in islamic scholars from the dawn of islam to
present living days. Fifth, if sheekh was out of doing anything much of
last 8 years, what do you say about mashhad Sarinlay that he champoined
during his life time?. Does Islam validates such shirkiyaad deeds that he
validate all his time?. Can you tell us that he gave up this mashhad and
make repentent to Allah before his dying.
Sister, the issue is not whether deceased one was your kin or not. No.
The issue is his suufi empire in Sarinlay and how all type of shirki was
validated under his rule. We need to keep towxiid clean and bright and be
vanguard of janabaat altawxiid. Sister, I would say your follow up was
unnecessary rather uncalled.
Let we make insaaf for the towxiid before indivualizing this serious
topic.
Abdi Isse Da'ud
P.S As promised I will not follow up under this topic execpt for extreme
cases.
Daud7
Sh. Omar Khatib;
What is Qabyo?. I left every thing on intact. No qabyo or briefs involve
here.
So, please read this thread from Alif to ya before saying Qabyo?.
Btw, thank you your brotherly correction of such words ie thoughtless.
Ina Da'ud
Daud7
Sister Safia;
I don't understand how your deduction of such hadith fit my previous
argument?. Take note: serious debate was intercepted by indivializing the
topic. Take another note this is not takfiir.
Ina Da'ud
Omar Khadhib
Daud7 wrote:
>
> Sh. Omar Khatib;
>
> What is Qabyo?. I left every thing on intact. No qabyo or briefs involve
> here.
>
> So, please read this thread from Alif to ya before saying Qabyo?.
>
xiriirta inta la dakhdakhro laga tego. Cabdi adiga oo aanan kululaan
warkaad qortay qabyo ha uga tegin haddii lagu yiraahdo dhib kuma jiro.
Warkaad qortay waxaa ii muuqata inuu u baahan yahay faafahin badan u
baahan yahay. Wixii sharciyan u baahan in aad loo dhuuxo yaanan uga
tegin iyada oo la faafahin karo.
Btw, thank you your brotherly correction of such words ie thoughtless.
>
Omar: Adigaa mudan walaasheen Safiyana waa iga yeeshay inay la noqoto.
Ina Da'ud
Abuu Xafsa
Abdulkadir Egal
Maxaad u kala hadlaysaa? qofaad tiri yaan loo ducayn maxaa kaliya
oo loo qaadan karaa inaad gaalnimo ka wadid mooyee? Qofka aadan oran
karin alaha u naxiirsto waa qofaad gaalnimo ku hubto. Marka waxaan ku
oran lahaa laba mid soo gal;
1)Noo cadee meesha shiikhu ku gaaloobay
2) Ka noqo haladaadii danbi dhaafna rabi warso
C/qaadir
> Ina Da'ud
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