OGADEN MAP (famine effected area)!!!!
ahmed...@my-deja.com
IN THE HORN OF AFRICA WHERE 100 WOMEN AND CHILDREN ARE DYING EVERY DAY
FOR HUNGER AND DISEASE. THE RED AREA IS THE MAP OF OGADEN LAND WHICH IS
EVIL ETHIOPIA OCCUPIED ILLEGALY AND ALSO THE HISTORY OF OGADENIA
THE EVIL ETHIOPIAN GOVERNMENT IS ISOLATED THIS NATION FROM OUTSIDE WORLD
THE OGADEN PEOPLE THEY ARE IN CONCENTRATION CAMPS LIKE EVIL HITLER
DONE TO JEWS PEOPLE.
PLEASE HELP THIS PEOPLE THEY ARE LIKE YOUR PEOPLE BY GIVING CONTRIBUTION
TO AID AGENCIES WHO ARE GOING TO OGADEN REGION.
TO SEE THE MAP IN OGADENIA LAND
TAKE THIS ADDRESS
http://www2.unl.ac.uk/~ams013/ogmap.html
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Guleed
Aad ayaan runtii uga xumay dhibaatada maanta haysata dadka somaliyeed
ee degen Gobalka ogadeen.
Lakiin maanta sidaynu ognahay majirto Somali wax istarikarta oo cadow
iska dhicinkarta sidii dagaalkii 70 tanadii dhacay ee xabashida iyo
somalidu iskaga horyimaadeen. Maanta qofkastaa halka uu joogo ayaa
dhibaatadu kuhaysaa, xataa cid maanta aduunka inooga hadasha ma haysano
awoodkalaba daayoo. Markaa suáalahaas iyo qaarkale oo badani waxay
dhalinayaan sida tan.
1. Miyaanay maanta suurto gal ahayn in maanta Ogaden lagu raadiyo nabad
iyo wada hadal siyaasiyeed, Not voilant movement. Oo laraaco wadadii
Nelsson Mandela kusoo xoreeyay South Africa iyo waxyaabaha lamidka ah.
Taas waxaan u leeyahay haddii maanta ay dadka Ogadeen Dagaal hubaysan
Xabashida kuqaadaan miyaan markaa Xabashida loo samayn siday doonayaan.
Maanta xabashida Awood aynu iskaga difaacno ma´hayo. Xabashiduna sidaad
ogtahiin somalida weligeed mayka heli jirin oo markastaba waxay u
aragtaa Cadow iyo dhibaata kusoo koraysa.
2. xataa hadii dagaal hubaysan lagu qaado dhibaatada xooga ahi waxay
soo gaadhaysaa dadka kunool deegaankaas oo xabashidu waa dawladaas
wayn. "Gurilana war" sidaad ogtahay dawlad Gobal ayqabsatay kama soo
dhacsho inuu daciifiyo mooyaane. Dadka dagaalamaaya ayaga dhibaato aan
xadlahay ayaa gaadha.
Hadalkii oo kooban aniga waxay ilatahay in maanta Ogadeen loo baahan
yahay New strategi. Kaas oo ah Not violent movement method. Balkaas
kawarama dadka iiga warka roon arinkanoow.
Mahadsanid akhriste
Guleed
ahmed...@my-deja.com
Dear guleed
aad iyo aad ayaan ooga xumahay dadkaa ay abaartu iyo cudurku uulaynayo
ee gobolka ogadeenya ethiopia ayaa abuurtay dhibaatada iyada ayaana ka
xixidhay aduunweynaha hadana waxay rabtaa cawimaada aduunweynaha siiyi
in ay kula dagaalanto Eritrea.
LET ME ANSWER ONE OF YOUR QUATION
>waxaad tidhi ogadeen ha lagu raadiyo xal nabad galyo not voilent way?
saxiib qof aduunyada ku nool oo nabad diidadaya ma uujiro haduu wax
ku helayo laakiin ethiopia iyada ayaa qaska iyo dagaalka rabta oogumana
aysan talo galin in ay nabadi ka dhalato gobolka ogadeenya waxaa jirta
waqti dheer oo uusan dagaal jirin ethiopia hadii ay daacad tahay maxay
wax oogu qaban wayday wadanka.
xaysalaade ilaa iyo mingiste ilaa iyo kuwan hada heysta
isku siyaasad ayay ku dhaqmayaan oo ah in uu military xukumo ogadeenia
oo aysan wax nabadgalyo ah ka dhicin dhulkeena maxkamado maleh
militariga ayaa dadka xukumaya waxa ay ku xukumayaana waa dil joogto ah.
wadankaa weyn wax wado ah uma aysan dhisin jaygii waagii uu talyaanigu
qabsaday ayaa wali la isticmaalaa isbitaalo maleh waxbarasho maleh
waxay cad in ay dhulkan u haysato SECURITY ZONE waxaa jirta in
heshiisyo badan ay lagashay jabhadaha intiiba iyada iyada ayaa jabisay
iyada oo diidaysa in wax is badal nololeed uu ka dhaco gobolka.
hadii uu dadkeenu is dhiibo oo uu dhaho nabad ayaan rabnaa in aan kuwada
noolaano ethiopia ayaan ogolayn sababta ayasan u ogolayn waa maxay?
waxaysan u ogolayn waxaa meesha ka baxaya xukunkii militariga waayo
looma baahno waxaana dhalana maamul shicib waxaa dib ubilaabanaya
waxbarshadii dadkii way ilbaxayaan kadib ethiopia qasab ayay ku tahay
in ay dadkaa xaqooda siiso laakiin ma ay rabto in taasi dhacdo oo
siyaasadoodii ay u dajiyeen ayay ka horimaaneysaa marka waa in ay
diidaan nabada oo waligii military ka taliyo
doodu way furantahay ( open discussion )
visit maabka ogaden ee hoos ku qoran
dhulka intaa la eg wax wado ah maleh waa wax layaab leh.
people they are still using the rufy road the Italian they left.
http://www2.unl.ac.uk/~ams013/ogmap.html
sidaas iyo dood wacan
ahmed eegge
In article <8claat$804$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
Guleed <a...@araby-dalbo.com> wrote:
> Salaan dhamaantiin!
>
> Aad ayaan runtii uga xumay dhibaatada maanta haysata dadka somaliyeed
> ee degen Gobalka ogadeen.
>
> Lakiin maanta sidaynu ognahay majirto Somali wax istarikarta oo cadow
> iska dhicinkarta sidii dagaalkii 70 tanadii dhacay ee xabashida iyo
> somalidu iskaga horyimaadeen. Maanta qofkastaa halka uu joogo ayaa
> dhibaatadu kuhaysaa, xataa cid maanta aduunka inooga hadasha ma
haysano
> awoodkalaba daayoo. Markaa suįalahaas iyo qaarkale oo badani waxay
Mahmoud Abib
Talo aad u wacan ayaad soo jeedisay. Durbaan tunkii iyo
Xabashi soo dilaay!!! Waa dhaamatay aniga siday ila tahay.
Xabashina waxa maanta guusha iyo gacanta siiyay waa innaga.
Markaan isku cun'nay sidii wuxuushta, ma cadowbaa kaa waaban?
Markaan gaalkii na gumeystay gaalo ka xun noqqonay, guul
waligeen haleelimeyno.
Haddaba maanta, dadkeennii oo gaajo iyo macluul u liita, in dab iyo
olol-dagaal loogu daraa ma habboona. SomaliGalbeed waa in lagu soo
dhiciyaa wada hadal, waan waan iyo xeel xirfad ku saleysan.
Waxaan kula talin lahaa kuwa maanta qaxwaha cadeyska ah ku cabbaya
carro shiisheeye, in dadkeenni maanta u baahan yahay mucaawino deg
deg ah, dagaal iyo rabshadna ay ka daaleen.
Nabadgelyo.
Abib
Guleed
Salaan dhamaantiin!
Mahadsanid Abib.
Waxay ilatahay Abib labadeenu meel ayaynu waxa kawada aragnaa. Taasina
waa sidii aynu horaba u sheeganay ina nabad lagu raadiyo xasiloonida
iyo xuquuqda dadka somaliyeed ee degen Ethopia.
In short time: Sidaynu ognahay dhamaanteen Hadafkeenu/Goal waa inaynu
xorayno dadka somaliyeed ee degen Ogadeeniya. Markaa waa inaynu dadka
somaliyeed ee degen Ogadeen region aynu u raadino xuquuq taam ah (in
short time) oo ay gooni isu maamulikaraan. Waa inaynu isku daynaa sidii
aynu u qancin lahayn hogaamiyaasha Ehopia (nimankaas madaxa adag) inay
siyaan xuquuqda dadka somaliyeed inaga oo aduunka kaashanayna, wadada
aynu maraynaana aytahay wadahadal nabadeed. Dagaalka hubaysana aynu aad
uga fogaano. Kuna doodno inaynu dad Ehtopina nahay,lakiin asalkoodu
somaliyahay oo aan usoo jeedin in Ogadeen lagu daro somaliya. Waayo
Ehtopiáanku hadalkaas ayay aad cuqdad uga qabaan ( waxaa uu
xasuusunayaa dagaaladii 70-nadii ee xoraynta Ogadeen).
In long time: Sidaas kadib waa inaynu samaynaa "New strategic plan"
kaas oo inagaadhsiinkara hadafeena, xoraynta Ogadeen mustaqbalka In
shaalaah. Taasina waa inaynu kuraadino nabad iyo wada hadal, Not qori
caradii. Arinkani aad runtii umaanfaah faahin waayo waxyaaba badan oo
aanan ogayn ayaa jira. Lakiin sidaas fikrada u eeg ayaa lagu gaadhi
karaa hadafkeena. Wakhtideera way qaadan doontaa, sabir badana way
ubaahantahay. lakiin sidaas aan kor kusoo sheegay markasta way
dhaamaysaa dagaal hubaysan.
Runtiina waxaa aad u wanaagsan in markasta laga war hayo waxa
aydoonayaan dadka degen dhulkaas, ayagana lawaydiiyo sidii xalka loo
helilahaa iyo sidii ugu haboon ee looga fagaan lahaa dhibaatooyinka
maanta kataagan rejenkaas. Looma baahna inay dadka debeda joogaa shaaha
kucabaan dhibaatada maanta dadkaas haysata. OO leh waxaanu nahay urur
hubaysan oo kasoo horjeeda Ethopia. Taasna waxay keenaysaa inuu
maamulka Ethopia cadaadiyo dadkaas ayaga oo u arka cadaw soo koraaya.
Mahmoud Abib
Guleed
Salaan dhamaantiinba!
Abib aad ayaad runtii u mahadsantahay. Sidaad adba shegtay waxaa jira
waxyaaba badan oo u dhigma xalada aykusugan yahiin Somali-galbeed.
Markaa sidaynu wada ognahay waxaa jira taarikhda aduunka tusaalayaal
badan oo lamid ah lagana faaķidaysankaro sidii xal loogu dooni lahaa
Somali-galbeed. Markaa sidaan dhamaanteen wada ognahay marna dagaal xal
makeeno.
Abib waa runtaa oo region kaas Ogadeen oo qudhi madagana. Somali-
galbeedna aniga aad ayaan magacaas runtii ula dhacay. Inkasta oo
magacaasi ina xasuusinaayo dagaaladii 70-dii ee Ethopia iyo somalia
iskaga horyimaadeen. Runtiina waa inaynu markastaba xasuusnaano
dadkeenii dagaalkaas ku dhintay, wax layska indhatirikarana maįha,
cidkastaa magacaas ha bixisee!
1. Lakiin waxaa iswaydiinleh Ethopia ma waxay cadaadisaa somalida oo
qudha, mise waxay cadaadisaa cidkasta oo u dhago nuglaanwayda xukunka
iyo isku xidhnaanta Ethopia?
2. Haddii ay somalida Ethopia khasantan aad u cadaadiso maxaa keenay
taas?
3. Xagee laysku afgaran layahay oo ay dhibaatadu ugu wayni kajirtaa?
Mahadsnaid Haddii aad suįalahaa iiga soo jawaabi kartaan.
ahmed...@my-deja.com
To mohamoud abib
waxaa cad in aad ka xuntahay magaca OGADEN ee loogu yeedhayo dhulkaaa
ay xabashidu gumaysato magacan dad ogaadeen ah uma aysan bixinin dhulkan
ee waxaa u bixiyaya gumaysigii ingriiska hadii uu afweyne magacii
badalay isaga oo ka lahaa ujeedooyin fara badan oo oogu yeedhay
soomali-galbeed waxuu marin habaabiyay aduunweynahii iyo taariikhdii
dhulkaa ogadenia ee ay xabashidu gumaysato. hadii aan tusaale yar ku
siiyo.
markii ay dawladii soomalia jirtay shir lagu qabtay Nairobi Kenya oo
lagu wada hadal siinayay Ethiopia iyo Somalia wasiirkii soomliya waxuu
ku doodayay Ethiopia dhul ayay naga haysataa layiraahdo somali-galbeed
Ethiopiana waxay ku doodaysay anagu dhul layirahdo soomali-galbeed
soomaliya kama heysano oo soomalia afarteeda jiho waa xor ee dhulka aan
heysano waxaa layiraahdaa OGADEN waxuuna shirkii tusay oo uu ku
doodayay maabka aduunyada oo ay ku taalo OGADEN markaas ayaa layidhi
somaaliya ayaa gardarada wada.
marka siyaasad xumada soomiliya ayaa horta dadkaan dhulkaan dega ay
laxoroobi waayeen.
marka waxaa nasiib daro ah in dad adiga oo kale ah uu wali aaminsanyahay
jahawareerintii afweyne ee aheyd dhulkaa lama yiraahdo ogaden in uu ku
badalay magac layiraahdaa SOMALI-GALBEED waxaan ku tusayaa in ay
khaldantahay siyaasada afweyne wadan walba waxuu leeyahay afar jiho
wagooyi, koonfur, bari iyo galbeed , marka soomaliya afarteedii jiho
waa xor ee jihada kale ee ay ku tilmaameyso somali-galbeed xagee ayay
katimid waa jaha wareerin iyo la dagaalan in ay dadkaas helaan
xuquuqdooda.
waxaad tidhi sidan hoos ku qoran
> 5)In la tirtiro ereyga ah "Ogaden" sababtoo ah waddanka ma deggana
> Ogadeen oo keliyah, ee waxa dega Sacad Muuse, Ciida-Gale, Arab,
magaca OGADEN waa sumad dhul maqan oo ay xabashidu gumaysato taariikhda
aduunyada oo dhan ayay ku qoran tahay iyo maabka aduunyada afeynana wuu
badali kari waayey evil ethiopiana wey badali kari weyday ee hadii aad
daacad tahay magac wax sheegi maayee halganka dhulka ka qeybqaado.
* hadii aan tusaale ku siiyo wadamo badan oo layiraahdo magac qabiil oo
ah wadamo waaweyn oo happy ku nool wax dhibaato ahna aysan ka jirin
waxaa kamid ah
1) india waa wadan weyn waxaana loogu magac daray qabiilka layiraahdo
hindu.
2) saudi-arebia waa wadan weyn waxaana loogu magac daray qoyska
boqortooyada ee wadanka xukuma
3) france waxaa loogu magac daray qabiil layiraahdo franc oo guu badnaa
qanigii 16naad
marka soomalidu waxay ku maah maahdaa lax diidan meel ay ku xoqoto ma
weydo. ee waxba ha ku ordin magaca OGADEN ha la tirtiro e la imoow
karti iyo dadnimo aad wadanka OGADENIA aad amxaarada ooga kiciso.
* dhulkana lama yidhaahdo somali-galbeed ee taariikhda dib ubaadh
meeshana kama hadleyno reer hebel ayaa dega iyo reer hebel ee waxaan ka
hadleynaa dhul maqan oo cadow xabashi ah uu gumeysto.
insha'alah ogadenia wey xoroobi
visit this web address
http://www2.unl.ac.uk/~ams013/ogmap.html
sidaas iyo nabad galyo
Dalsana
wrote:
>
>
>To mohamoud abib
>
>
>
>waxaa cad in aad ka xuntahay magaca OGADEN ee loogu yeedhayo
dhulkaaa
Mudane Axmed,
Inta aan la isa soo gaadhin xukumada Tigreega ah, inaan anagu
dexdeena is dilo miyaadan ka cabsaneyin. Yaase masuul ka noqon
arrintaasi hadey dacdo? Waxa weeyaan, anigu waxaan aaminsanahy
in arrinta gudahu ka muhiimsantahy ta dibedda. Ha.
Dhulkaas "Ogadenia" ayaa looga yaaqaan dibadda. Gudahase Dad
badan ayaa magaca diidan e maxaan yeelaa walaal?
Horey ayaa loo yidhi kacaan lama soo dhoofin karo. Waa in uu
ummadda ka dhex dhashaa.
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Gosay
Doodiinan beryahnba waan akhriyay, waana mid xiise leh.
Hadaan hal point ku darsado anigoon ka soo horjeedin in dhulkaa ethiopia
gumaysato ee soomaliyeed laga xoreyo, hadana waxaan macquul u arkaa qodobka
Abib ee ku saabsan magaca Ogadenia.
Magacan sidaan aminsanay markii horeba Ingiriisku khad buu ka damacsanaa oo
ah in ay Ogadenku yidhaahdaan magacan dhulkan la dhahaa Ingiriiska ayaa u
bixiyay oo ay u tacasubaan, dadkii kalena ay yidhaahdaan waar niminyow
Ogaden magacan meesha halaga dayo oo halkaa jafaajriqu ka bilaabmo oo
magacaniba mixnad noqdo, excatly wuuna yahay mixnad oo dad badan baan
ogolayn in la yidhaa magacan oo ah degaanka meesha.
Markaa Axmedow aduunyada kale marka laga tago waa in aad aniga i qancisaa oo
kula daga hadii kale dhabar jab ayan kugu noqonaya, oo waxaan u arkayaa in
aad anigana hadhowto i gumaysan doonto ninkaagan aan ogolayn in aynu magaca
share garayno intaan wax kaleba laysla gaadhin.
Tusaale ka soo qaad hadii Ingiiirskii uu u bixin lahaa somaliland= ISaaq
land oo ay sidaa xornimo u heli lahaayeen, waxaan aminsanay intaan meel
kaleba laysla gaadhin magacaasa laysku dili lahaa.
Ninkan Ingiriis la yidhaa dabinaduu daadiyay ayuun baa malinba mid inala
qarxayaa waayo isagu ujeedadiisu waa in ayna heshiin meelahii uu gamaysan
jiray oo dhami oo dhul uun haysku haystaan ilaa qiyamaha adna ka iibi uun
hubka iyo waliba carrurtaaduba sida Usa Iwm
Way ila fogaate
Fiii amaani lah
maju...@my-deja.com
to dhamantiin
anigu waxaan taageersanahey fikrada ( sir: Ahmed Eegge )ee ah in
dhulkaa looyaqaan ogaden in lagu raadiyo xornimadiisa ama wax u
qabashadiisaba magaca aduunweynaha looga yaqaan wax layiraahdo
somali-galbeed majiraan ninkii raba in uu xoreeyo somali-galbeed orad oo
xoree dhulka layiraahdo "baay iyo bakool " ee soomaliya halkaas ayaa
layiraahdaa somali-galbeed ha isku qasina jihooyinka sida uu siyaad bare
isku qasay wax walba.
waxaa qosol leh oo aan idiin sheegayaa wagii uu siyaad bare lahaa waan
xoreyn ogaden ee uu kabadalay magaca una bixiyay wax lagu magacaabo
soomali-galbeed waxaa la isku ogaa magacaa halagu dagaal galo
qabiilooyinkii kale ee dhulka ogaden degi jiray way diideen magacii oo
waxay sameysateen jabhad kale oo layiraahdo "sii-galbeed"!!!!! maxay ula
jeedaan sii galbeed waxay dhaheen soomali-galbeed ogaden ayaa u badan
marka marabno marka dadka noocaas ah ayaa maanta wax laga sugi jawaabtu
waa maya dhulkan waxaa layiraahdaa OGADEN ama deganoow oo sug inta aan
kaaga xoreynayno ama ka guur oo meeshii hore ee aad ka timid ee aheyd
soomaali weyn dib oogu noqo.
magaca ogaden badalidiisa cidna lagala tashan mahayo ama gumeysi ha u
bixiyo ama amxaaradu ha bixiso waa magac international ah oo ku qoran
maabka aduunweynaha kaa uun baana dhulkaa lagu raadin. ethiopia xaataa
wey isku deyday in ay badasho wey badali kari weyday
waxaa la yaab leh in dadku uu iska indho tiro xaqiiqada meesha taala oo
ah dulka layiraahdo OGADEN in maanta loogu yeedho somali-galbeed hadii
aan kuwiina ka naxsan ama diidan magaca ogaden aan idin xusuusiyo in
dadka kale ee dhulkaaa degan aysan xaataa hadii labadalo magaca ogaden
in aysan ka qeybqaadaneynin dhulkaa wax dantiisa ah ayaan kitaab jaamac
ah ku mari anigu aqoon dheer ayaan u leeyahay dadka aan ogaadeenka aheyn
in ay isku taxalujiyaan wax u qabadka dhulkaa ay xabashidu gumaysato in
ay sii burburiyaan mooyee.
hadii aad daacad u tihiin dhulkaa in laga saaro xabashida maxaad u
sameyn weydeen jabhad magaciina wadata oo dhehda dhulkaa ogaden ayaan u
dagaalami adeer yay naan beenta is ku sheegin waa layaqaana waxa aad
tihiin waan idiin ogolaaney in aad dhulkaanaga dagtaan oo aad
gabdhahaanaga aad guursataan laakiin idiinma aanaan ogolaan in aad si
kastaba noo duleysataan oo maanta halkan ku soo qortaan magaca ogaden ha
labadalo hadii aada rabtaan in aan dhulka xoreyno taasi waa sheeko
caruureed.
hadii naadan ku faraxsanyn magaca ogaden yaa ku qasbaya ka guur ogaden
oo dib oogu noqo soomaliya meel aadan ka maqleynin magaca oagden
la imaada xal dhulkan magaciisa aniguna mabadli karo adiguna ma badali
kartid
sidaas iyo nabad galyo
majuwana( freedom supporter )
Mahmoud Abib
maju...@my-deja.com
hadii aad umaleysay in aad ku doodi karto hala badalo magaca ogaden
waqtigaaga ayaad iska luminaysaa waxaadna ubaahantahay in aad madaxa
iska baadho waayo waad waalantahay.
adeer waxaad tidhi dad yar oo ogaden u dhashay ayaa ku dhintay dagalkii
1977kii waxaan umaleynaa in aadan lasocin taariikhda dhabta ah iyo waxa
ka dhacay "ogaden war" ilaa iyo 20.000 kun oo u dhashay ogadeen ayaa ku
dhintay ilaa yio hadana ku dhinta.
hadii uu afweyne ku jaho wareeriyay oo ku soo galiyay dagaalkii 1977 oo
kugu jirdhi ogaden adinka ayaan idinsiin doonaa ee dagaalka gala hadaba
been ayuu indiin sheegay.
maxaad oogu dagaalami weyday hadii aad daacad tahay waxii ka danbeeyay
1977 ilaa iyo hada rag ayaa ku dhinta oo dagaal wada xagee ayaad ku
maqneyd ku mee? kuma arkee ? maxaad tahay sheydaan aan la arkeynin
xageedse ka dagaalantaa ma cirka ama dayaxa maxaa laguu arki waayey?
iam sure not ogaden land?
*Adeer caano boodhaha Tigreegu ku siiyo caloosha ka buuxso oo dhinac
dhinac u seexo dhuusadana kor u saydh "xarshina"iyo "harta sheekh "
* ilaahii ku siiyaya ku mahdi ogadeenkana jaajuus oo dheh kani ONLF ayuu
ku jiraa iyo kan wiilkiisa ayaa ku jira jahadaha. nimankii dhulka iska
lahaa wey udagaalamayaan maalin maalmaha kamid ahna cadowga way ka qaadi
ee iskaga noolow inta aan umaaneyno adeer dhulka waxaa iska leh ogadeen
people.
adeer maxaa ku dhacay somali weyn maxaa loogu soo qaxay ogaden oo uu
ruux walba marka aan soo dhaweynay in uu nala sheegto oo uu yiraahdo
magaca ogaden halabadalo waa arin cajiib ah naga ayaana isku keenay
sidaas yio nabad galyo
MAJUWANA (FREEDOM SUPPORTER)
Guleed
Salaan dhamaantiin!
Kalimada Ogadeen isticmaali maayo oo waxaa isticmaalaya Somali-galbeed
qoraalkayga. Dooduna way qasantay oo meel aan kaga hagaago garan maayo.
Waxa yaabo badan ayaa laysku jacburiyay. Xaaladu waa "wareeeeeeeeeeeer"
Waxay ilatahay dooda intii aan odhan lahaa waxaa yidhi Mr. Abib. Haddii
aan in yar kudarsadana waa sida tan.
Doodan markii ugu horaysay ee aan xiiseeyay inaan ka qayb galo runtii
waan kaqajilaayay inaan idhaahdo Ogadeen. Waayo waxaan islahaa dadbadan
ayaa kalimadaa qabiilka ah (ogadeen) kugu qabsan. Markii Abib magaca
Somali-galbeed igu caawiyay runtii aad ayaan uladhacay. Waayo uma arko
inaan qolo farta saaraayo. In beesha meshaas degen Majoritigu Ogadeen
asalkoodu yahayna marka Aniga iyo Abib maánaan inkirin.
Waxaa runtii aad uga yaabay sidii arinkiiba iskugu bedelay aflagaado,
cay loola jeeda dad somaliyeed oo ayaguba mar qaxoonti ahaa, sidan ayuu
qoray Majuwana:"Adeer caano boodhaha Tigreegu ku siiyo caloosha ka
buuxso oo dhinac dhinac u seexo dhuusadana kor u
saydh "xarshina"iyo "harta sheekh". Runtii dadka sidaas u qasta ma
wanaagsanaba inay doodi idin dhex marto. Waayo sharcigii dooda iyo
waxii laga hadlaayayba qofkani muu fahmin. In loo jawaabana kuma haboon
umana qalanto!
Meeshan sidaan anigu ku ogaa meel ciyaal Chatting kusameeyaan maáha.
Fikradaha ayaa laysku waydaarsadaa. Adiga oo cada iyo niyadjabka ku
haysta cabiraaya uma baahnid inaad dadka aflagaadaysid. Ixtiraamku waa
shay aad u qaaliya ee xataa haddii aan lays horfadhiyin ixtiraama dadka
dooda kaqayqaadanaaya iyo akhriste yaashaba.
Waxay ilatahay siday doodani u wanaagsanaato aynu kaga hadalo sidan:
1. Somali-galbeed ama Ogadeen keebaa haboon oo loogu yeedhaa somalida
meshaas degen. Marka hore taas aynu meel isla dhigno. Qofkastaana hasoo
daayo siday latahay. Mawduucana haka bixina.
Sida Mr. eegge sheegay ayaan doonayaa inaan ka jawaabo.
India, Suadu-arabia iyo France aad sheegaysid miyaanad ogay inaanay
maanta cidna waxba uga baahnayn sidee ayaad ugla mid dhigikartaa
dhibaatada haysato dadka somaliyeed ee kunool Somali-galbeed. Haddii
aad leeday anagu somali waynu kamaaranay taasi waa sheeko kale. Haddii
kala waa in magaca lagu heshiiyaa!
Waxii gumaysigu kuu bixiyay ee uu doonayay inuu Somalida kaaga takooro
ayaad weli kusii dhegentahay. Miyaanad ogay in wadankii Zaire laga
bedelay magacii gumaysiga oo loo bixiyay Kongo oo hore loo odhan jiray.
Aduunku haddii aad leedahay Somali-galbeed ayuu wax u qabanayaa oo
magacaas ayaa aduunka looga yaqaan maxaa uu dagaladii 77-kii kuu caawin
waayay? Ogow aduunku waxba kaama oga ee dadka meeshaas kuwada nool
civil-war haka dhex kicin. Somali ayaad markasta garab iyo naxariis
markastaba kula garab taagana fikradaada dib ugu noqo. Xataa miyaad
dafirtay dhibaatooyinkii inaga sooo gaadhay dagaalkii 77-kii. Maxaynu
kumadhanaynay ee dagaalka ina geliyay? Cajiib.
Mahadsanid akhriste
Guleed
Mahmoud Abib
Cay iyo aflagaaddo cidna wax kaga qaadi meysid. Adiga ayuun bay
dib kuugu soo noqqon. Magacayga waxa la yidhaa "Maxamud Cali Abib".
Ma aan waalli, ninka Sheydaanka la yidhaahdana waxba ma wadaagno
ee sidaasi ula soco. Waxase iga yaabisay sida aad u tahay
caasi-waalideyn oo aad adeerka u aflagaadeysay!
Aad baan runtii uga xumaaday sida ciyaal-suuqnimada leh
eed dooddii ugu beddeshay qabyaalad iyo anaa kuu taliya.
Anigu waxba kamaan sheegin degaankaaga iyo waxaad cuntidba.
Haddaad mooday in aan "Harta Sheikh" iyo "Xarshin" ku koobanahayna,
barasho laxaad leh ayaa iigu kaa laaban.
Ogadeenkii ku dhintay dagaalkii 1977kiina, anigu waxba kamaan
sheegin. Waan la socdaa in Ogadeen ka badan tirada aad sheegtay
ku dhinteen dagaalkaasi. Laakiin waxay dadkaasi u badnaayeen shicib
Xabashidu qafaalan jirtay ooy ka dhigan jirtay "human sheilds".
Anigu waxan ka hadlaayey dagaalkii JigJiga, oo markii dagaalku
ka holcaayey aan agteeda joogay. Inta Somali halkaa ku naf beeshay,
Allah ayuunbaa og. Haddaba, is weydiiyow, ayay u dhimanayeen?
Qas'digoodu_se muxuu ahaa? Ma waxaad moodday ummaddii
Somaliyeed ee dagaalkaasi ku naf waayey inay adiga kuu
ahaayeen calooshooda u shaqeystayaal lasoo kiraystay?
Kula qas'san maayo anigu, laakiin waxan ku soo afjarayaa
in waligeed magac WADDAN oo la yidhaahdo "Ogadeen"
jiri doonin. Waa haddii aad doonaysaan waan waan, wada
noolaasho, nabad, wada qeybsasho, iyo walaaltinnimo.
Haddii kale sidii Somaliya ka dhacday oo kale ayuunbaanu isku
cuni doonnaa. Dagaalkii ahaan lahaa, xoreynta waddanna,
wuxu isku beddeli doonaa mid qabiil iyo geel-kala-bililiqeysi.
Waxayba aniga ila tahay, tuhunna ha ahaatee, in aad nimanyahow
Xabashiba xidhiidh hoose leedihiin. Al-xabash waa og yahay
in magaca "Ogadeen" dhibaato qabiil ka dhalan doonto.
Maxaad u fah'mi la' dihiin taasi? Magaca la yidhaahdo
Somali Galbeed ama Westren Somalia, sun iyo waabey ayuu
u yahay Xabashi, waayo wuxu magacu xanbaarsanyahay midnimo
Somaaliyeed iyo isku duubni.
Nabadgelyo,
Abib.
maju...@my-deja.com wrote in message <8ct0ps$988$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>To: m.abib sheydaan
>
>
>hadii aad umaleysay in aad ku doodi karto hala badalo magaca ogaden
>waqtigaaga ayaad iska luminaysaa waxaadna ubaahantahay in aad madaxa
>iska baadho waayo waad waalantahay.
>
>
>adeer waxaad tidhi dad yar oo ogaden u dhashay ayaa ku dhintay dagalkii
>1977kii waxaan umaleynaa in aadan lasocin taariikhda dhabta ah iyo waxa
>ka dhacay "ogaden war" ilaa iyo 20.000 kun oo u dhashay ogadeen ayaa ku
>dhintay ilaa yio hadana ku dhinta.
>
>hadii uu afweyne ku jaho wareeriyay oo ku soo galiyay dagaalkii 1977 oo
>kugu jirdhi ogaden adinka ayaan idinsiin doonaa ee dagaalka gala hadaba
>been ayuu indiin sheegay.
>
>
>maxaad oogu dagaalami weyday hadii aad daacad tahay waxii ka danbeeyay
>1977 ilaa iyo hada rag ayaa ku dhinta oo dagaal wada xagee ayaad ku
>maqneyd ku mee? kuma arkee ? maxaad tahay sheydaan aan la arkeynin
>xageedse ka dagaalantaa ma cirka ama dayaxa maxaa laguu arki waayey?
> iam sure not ogaden land?
>
>*Adeer caano boodhaha Tigreegu ku siiyo caloosha ka buuxso oo dhinac
>dhinac u seexo dhuusadana kor u saydh "xarshina"iyo "harta sheekh "
>* ilaahii ku siiyaya ku mahdi ogadeenkana jaajuus oo dheh kani ONLF ayuu
>ku jiraa iyo kan wiilkiisa ayaa ku jira jahadaha. nimankii dhulka iska
>lahaa wey udagaalamayaan maalin maalmaha kamid ahna cadowga way ka qaadi
>ee iskaga noolow inta aan umaaneyno adeer dhulka waxaa iska leh ogadeen
>people.
>
>
>adeer maxaa ku dhacay somali weyn maxaa loogu soo qaxay ogaden oo uu
>ruux walba marka aan soo dhaweynay in uu nala sheegto oo uu yiraahdo
>magaca ogaden halabadalo waa arin cajiib ah naga ayaana isku keenay
>
>
>
>
>sidaas yio nabad galyo
>
>
> MAJUWANA (FREEDOM SUPPORTER)
>
>
maju...@my-deja.com
waxaan kuweydiiyay maxaad kuwan iidoorka ah ee qarankii soomaliyeed
burburiyay ee wata magaca gumaysigu uu u bixiyay ee ah Soomali-Land
soomalinimana diiday ee rag u dhashay gobolka ogadeenya qaqabtay oo
xabashida u dhiibay soomaali nacayb daraadeed.
maxaad iyagana ula sheegan weyday dhulkooda oo aad oogula doodi weyday
magaca badala waa magac gumeysiye oo labaxa magac dhexdhexaad ah.
mise ogadeenka ayuunbaad ka adagtahay ileen Tigree ayaa ku garab taagane
oo kugu yidhi ogaadeenka dhulka waan ka madhin aduuna kuu hadhayaa
hadaba been ayay kuu sheegeen sidii uu "siyad barre" beenta kuugu
sheegey.
marka waxaan kugula talin lahaa dhulkan waxii loogu yeedho iska iloow
oo la imoow siyaasad cad oo aad halganka dhulka aad ooga qeybqaadato
hadii kale adeer hayna oomin waxaad tahay kuwii labaxay "sii-galbeed"
ee layidhi marka kheyrka laraadinayo ayay sharka raadiyaan" marka
sharka laraadinayana kheyrka ayay raadiyaan" "what i mean here they are
opposite side all the time ".
>waxaad kale oo aad tidhi xabashidu sunteedu waa magaca soomali-galbeed
maxaad kula doodi xabashigu haduu ku yidhaahdo anigu dhul layidhaahdo
soomali-galbeed ma'aan heysto soomliya afarteedii jiho waa kuwaa xorta
ah tani waa siyaasad xumadii "siyad barre" duhur cad wadada loogu soo
riday shirkii "OAU" ee Nairobi ka dhacay waxaad kula doodi kartaa
aduunyada magaca ay yaqaanaan ee ah
"ogaden region"
hadaba xabashi sunteedu iyo hoogeedu waa adiga oo lu dooda magaca
dhulkan loo yaqaan waa hadii aad qalin iyo nabad galyo aad wax ku
raadineyso hadii kale waa in aad xoog aad dhulkaaga aad ku qaadataa.
xaaladu mataagna dhulkan magacaas iyo magacaas haloo bixiyo taasi waxay
imaan kartaa marka aad xuquuqdaada aad ka hesho "evil ethiopia" waa
mustaqbalka dheer.
soomalidu waxay ku maahmaahdaa "war hashu maxay ku nuugu maxayse ka
nuugi" inta aynaan ka wada hadlin magaca dhulkan horta kartidii wax
qabad halagaa helo ee dhulkan cadowga looga soo dhicin lahaa.
waqti badan mahayo waxaan ahay mashquul
doodu wey furantahay
sidaas iyo nabad galyo
majuwana ( freedom supporter )
Mahmoud Abib
>maxaad iyagana ula sheegan weyday dhulkooda oo aad
> marka waxaan kugula talin lahaa dhulkan waxii loogu yeedho
Dalsana
Sheekadii wey xumaatey. Dagaaladii dhacey ka soo bilow 77kii
dhammaan dadka gobalkaa waxa wax ka heley oo ka faaiideystey ma
jiraan. Imisaa ayaa xero qaxooti ku dhimatey? Imasa ayaa dagaal
ku dhintey? Imisa ayaa wabiyada lagu darey? Imisa yaa maanta
abaaro leynayaan? Imisa ayaa la iska dilaa ilaa hadda? Hadal iyo
dhammaan, waxaan hadda jecelnahy in nabadi ka xasiloonaato
Geeska Africa. Waxa khaastan wanaagsan dadka dibadaha jooga ee
wadankan u dhashey in ay urruro sameytaan. Waxa aan boogaadin u
soo jeedineynaa ururka markii ugu horeysey u soo qaylyey
abaartan sida xun dadka u leysey oo la yidhaaho "Ogaden welfare
society".
Waxaanse hubaa in gobolkaasi xorrobi doono oo magac iyo calan
isku mid yeelan doono. Wada hadal kan oo kalena waxa uu ku
wanaagsan yahay, hadii aan aflagaado ku jirn, in fakaradaha
horseed ummad u noqon doona laga dhex helo. Waxaana kana soo
baxa fikrado dano u ah dadweynaha oo cadowna u ah dadka danaha
shaqsi ka wata dhibaatoyinka. Sidaa iyo nabad
maju...@my-deja.com
hadii aan kuu fasiro magaca "majuwana" waa naaneysteyda magacayga
asalka ahna waxaa layiraahdaa "abdullahi abdi" anigu fulay ma ihi qof
aan illahay aheyna oo aan kacabsado majiro.
hadii aan doodeenii meeshii kasii wado horta waa in aan laba kala
saarnaa dhul maqan iyo dhul xor ah.
hadii aan tusaale kusiiyo " xoolaha maxaa sumada loogu dhigaa waxaa
loogu dhigaa in looga garto xoolaha kale haday is dhaxgalaan"
marka adigu maxaad ku diidi in lagu raadiyo dhulkan sumadiisa oo ah
"ogaden" maabka aduunyada iyo laybareeriga buugaagta taala waad ka
heli magaca ogaden oo ku qoran dhulkaa ay xabashidu gumeysato.
laakiin waxaadan marnaba aadan ka helaynin magaca aad la ordeyso ee uu
"afweyne" bixiyay ee ah soomali-galbeed waa hadii aynu run isku
sheegeyno.
hadii aad daacad tahay maxaad ku diidi inaad ku dagaal gasho magaca
dhulkan loo yaqaano oo hadii bari uu illaahey ku garab qabto
TIGREEGANA aad ka saartid ileen waxaad tahay nin xaq ku dagaalamayee
maad markaa dhehdid anigu magacaan majecli ee aan badalo waxaan hubaa
in aysan wax doodi ah habe yaraatee aysan ka imaateen.
marka aniga waxaa ila quman in aad ka tirto maskaxdaada ku qufulan
soomali - galbeed oo aad baadho taariikhda dhulkaan iyo magaca
aduunweynaha looga yaqaano.
dhulkan waa neef xoole ah oo lumay marka maxaad ku diidi inlagu raadiyo
sumadiisii ama magac qabiil hawato ama magac "geed" hawato haduu uu
halganka iyo dhuljaceyku daacad kaa yahay maanta dhul aan xor aheyn oo
cadow madoow haysto ku ma aadan doodeen magaca OGADEN badala.
waxaad tidhi sidan hoos ku qoran
> Haddii runta la isku sheegana, Siyaad Barre
> wuxu Ogaadeen u qabtay, Somali danbe oo taasi tiigsan karaa
> inu jiri doono ilama aha. Gaashaanle Sare iyo Sareeye Guuto intu
> idinka wada dhigay, ayuu maanta abaalkaas kaa helay miyaa?
> Waxan arkaa isagoo xabaashii rogroganaaya!
malasocotaa in uu "siyaad bare" dictator " Mingiste" oogu sixiiyay
magaalada "japuti" dhulka OGADEN in ay san soomaliya dib danbe aysan
usheegan doonin 1983 isaga oo ka codsanaya ethiopia in ay joojiso
jabhadaha kasoo horjeeday Afweyne In ay kasoo saaraan Ethiopia oo aysan
mar danbe ku hubayn doonin isaga oo wata dantiisa khaaska ee ah in uu
soomaliya waligii uu madaxweyne kaligii ka ahaado.
marka ninka dhulkeygii u saxiixay cadow shisheeya waxa uu iiqabtay
maxay tahay haduu afar nin oo askar u ahaa oo difaaceysay uu garaadi
siiyay isaga ayaa dankuway in ay difaacaan. marka taasi wax qabad
ma'aha. ee waa iibsasho.
waad ku doodi kartaa dagaalkii 1977 ayuu afweyne indin caawiyay oo
dhulkii ogaden xoriyeey taasi waa run laakiin siyaasadii kadanbeysay
ayaa waxay aheyd in aysan ogaden go'in sidii jabuuti ay u go'day
markaas ayuu afweyne soo galiyay ciidankii soomaliya dagaalka si ay u
qabtaan dhulka ogaden inta aysan jabhaduhu dhulka kuli wada qabanin
waana lagu fashilmay taasi waxay kamid aheyd siyaasad xumadii soomaaliya
waxaa loo baahnaa in ay u daayaan dagaalka jabhadaha oo ay uun
taageeraan laakiin taasi madhicin.
xaataa la taliyihii ingriiska ahaa ee afweyne waxuu kula taliyay
inuusan ciidamada soomaliya uusan galinin dagaalka oo uu udaayo
jabhadaha " "soomalidu waxay ku maahmaahdaa nin meeli u cad meeli ka
madoow "" afweyne waxaa u cadeyd ogaden wey go'i ee qabo maxay ku
danbeysay hoog iyo ba.
m.abib waxaad u baahantahay in aad maskaxdaada furto oo aad sameyso
cilmi baadhid dheeraad ah oo ku saabsan dhulkaa ogaden iyo taariikhdiisa
iyo sidii wax loogu qaban lahaa.
anigu soomalida man necbi waxaana ahay soomali. soomali la'aanteedna
manoolaan karo taasi ayaa xaqiiq ah laakiin "waxaa layidhi sidee xeego
lagu xagtaa ilkana ku nabad galaan" .
sidaas iyo nabad galyo
OPEN DISCUSSION
majuwana(FREEDOM SUPPORTER)
Mahmoud Abib
Abib waa waalan yahay iyo ma waalla, ee iga war sug
anaa kuu soo sheegi doone eh, miyey doodiini iskugu
biyo shubatay?
majo...@my-deja.com wrote in message <8d0l1u$3af$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>In article <8d0k7l$2c7$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> ahmed_...@my-deja.com wrote:
>> In article <KOGI4.288$fR6....@news.goodnet.com>,
>> "Mahmoud Abib" <Quran...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> I don't think you have emotional stability. You posted two
>> contradictory messages in one week time.
>>
>> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>> Before you buy.
>>
>
>Ahmed, I don't think Mahmoud has got mental problem. But, I will find
>out and tell you if he is really sick.
Mahmoud Abib
Doodiiba hadday gashey Abib waa waalan yahay
iyo ma waalla, waxan u maleynayaa in lasoo gaadhay
xilligii aan idiinka soo degi lahaa giraantiinan.
Waxan kusoo gunaanadaya qoddobadan:
1) Waddan la yidhaahdo "Ogaden" ma jiro mana jiri doono.
2) Waddanka waxa la yidhaahdo Somali Galbeed.
3) Dagaal hubeysan iyo bombooyin qarintu ha dhammaato.
4) Dagaal maskaxeed iyo halgan cusub ha la galo.
5)Dadka meesha deggan bara xuqquudooda intaad
bareysaan sida naf bani Adam loo dilo. "Qalinku waa ka
quwad weyn yahay seefta".
6)Ha la tix galiyo Somalida carriga deggan, oo marka la isku
daro kaba tiro badan, Ogaadeenka Somali Galbeed deggan.
7) Ha la ogaado inaan magac qabiil qaran lagu dhisi kareyn.
Wa salamu Caleykum.
M.Abib
ahmed_...@my-deja.com
majo...@my-deja.com
Ahmed, I don't think Mahmoud has got mental problem. But, I will find
out and tell you if he is really sick.
ahmed_...@my-deja.com
majo...@my-deja.com wrote:
> In article <8d0k7l$2c7$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> ahmed_...@my-deja.com wrote:
> > In article <KOGI4.288$fR6....@news.goodnet.com>,
> > "Mahmoud Abib" <Quran...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I don't think you have emotional stability. You posted two
> > contradictory messages in one week time.
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
> >
>
> Ahmed, I don't think Mahmoud has got mental problem. But, I will find
> out and tell you if he is really sick.
>
Majuwana, you don't need to tell me or any one else; Everybody knows
him in Barbara (this is the place he used to live). Ask if they
know "Mahmoud Sicko" (= "the weird") and they can tell you the corect
description of this person.
Guleed
Salaan dhamaantiin!
Waxay ilatahay Abib inay doodiisu aad u macquultahay. Ahmed iyo
Majuwana markay arkeen inaanay dood doodu macquul ahayn ayaa sheekadii
waxay urogeen "Personal attack" oo sheekadii waxay kadhamaan la´dahay
Abib waa waalan yahay iyo mawaala. Dhinaca kalana waxay leeyahiin doodu
waa furan tahay. Waar managa ayaa waalan dee, doodoodu iska harimamad
badana; aamus iyo hadal ayay meel iskugu keeneeneh. Marka loo
fiirsadana dhaleecaynta runta ah uma dulqaadanayaan? wareer. Nimankani
ayaga oo waxaba isla hayn ayay doonayaan inay "dadka nool aasaan".
Haddii aad dawlad noqotaana sidee ayaad dadka u gelilahaydeen meshaas
idinla degen, madaama idinka oo Somali kamarmayn aad sida tan u
hadlaysaan? Xataa Aabihiin Siyaad oo Somali dhamaanteed Saylada taagay
oo intuu kari karaayay wax idiin qabtay ayaydeen wax mahadnaq ah u
hayn???? Arinkan sidee ayaa lagu fahmayaa. Qalada badan oo idinku
gasheena dadka ayaad saaraysaan!! Mawaxaad naga dhaadhicinaysaan Somali
ayaa halkaan maanta joogno nadhigtay?
Waxay aniga ilatahay Siyaasad xumidiina waligeedba ( waxaan ujeedaa
dadka hogaamiya dadka degen goblkaas Somali-galbeed) jiratay ayaa
halkaas idin dhigtay! Somalida dhiiga muslimka hasaarina, adeera yaal
dee! Siyaasad xumidiinu waata maanta aad kudiidaysid inaad huwataan
magaca Somali-galbeed, taas oo dadka somaliyeed oo dhami garab
idinsiinayaan. Kuwa gobalkaas deginina naftooda idiin hurayaan!
Haddii Somaliland ayla baxdo Isaaq-land taas somali waxba kama qaadi
karto. Waxaan ujeedaa dakda degaankaas degen cadow laga xoraynayaa
majiro, sidaad daradeed caawimada somalida aad uguma baahna marka loo
barbar dhigo Somali-galbeed. Laakiin isku xidhnaanta dadka degen
deegaankaas ayaa kala jabaaya taas oo keeni karta dagaal sokeeyo oo aad
ubaan. Sidaas silamid ah ayaa kadhacaysa goboka Bari haddii loo bixiyo
magaca dadka meeshaas degen. Arinkaas waxaan layaabanay siduu idiinku
adag yahay inaad fahamtaan!!! Cajiib.
Iminka ayaad leedahiin ha hadlina ee balkawarama dadka xukunkiina
hoostaga Ahmed iyo Majuwana. Ilaahow usahal dadkaas. Waxaa
kadhicilahayd Siyaadow iqarso.
Waxaan rajaynayaa inaan dadka Somali-galbeed (Ogadeen) aydaan metelin
oo anay sidaas aaminsanayn. Waxaan rajaynayaa inaad tihiin Laba shaqsi
oo "Borin" ku hayo wadamadan R.galbeed oo doonaya sheeko ay shaaha
kucabaan, dal ay xoreeyaan daayoo. Haddii dadka degen Somali-galbeed
ayaguna sidaas aaminsanyahiin (sida Ahmed iyo majuwana) halis waxaynu
ugu jirnaa dagaal sokeeye oo kadhaca gobolka Somali-galbeed wakhti aan
fogayn. Ilaahow noosahal amuuraha...aaaamiiiin.
Mahadsanid akhriste
Guleed
carr...@yahoo.com
I have been reading your posts, and really quite disappointed that in
this days and age there are Somalis who are knowingly or unknowinggly
perpetuating the colonial propoganda, which strips the Somaliness from
the SomaliGalbeed region by dubbing it as qabiil region, OGADENIA.
Every time I see a Somali calling that region Ogadeina, I suspect that
he is paid Ethiopian traitor.
The bottom line is if you cann't even call the region its appropriate
name, SomaliGalbed, please take your sickness to somewhere, like
OGADENIA.COM. There, you will find the proper support group. I know at
least one, MAGAN who used to post the Same garbage here.
The same goes for Somaliland Puntland etc. and all Qabiil regions that
are hiding behind made up names.( At least the Ogadeenia name spells
out who it is affiliated)
This Forum belongs to Somalis... It is ALL SOMALI ALL THE TIME.
Carrabay
maju...@my-deja.com
regitering yourself ahmed eegge name and buting extra "e" that is shame
to you
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AHMED EEGGE BY BUTING HIS NAME EXTRA "E" YOU ARE MAD MAN GO HOSPITAL
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Abib,
Thanks for standing up for SomaliGalbed. As you may already know, every
Somali qabiil is found in that region. Attaching it to a single qabiil
flies into the face of reality on the ground. Oh! MY, how could we ever
defeat the enemy.
Actually the main reason I posted this, is to ask you a question. If
you feel that debate is all ready over, you don't have to answer.
A while back a brother had asked you" How do you know the number of
Salaat or the number of Rakaat in each Salaat, if you only consult the
Quran".
Could you please address that question again directly and breifly. In
this case provide the reference Sura and Aya.....
Thanks in advance. Again, you don't have to answer if you don't feel
like it.
Carrabay
Mahmoud Abib
<<TIGREEGANA aad ka saartid ileen waxaad tahay nin xaq ku
maju...@my-deja.com
saxiib anigu sheekada ma'anan qasin laakiin waxaa qasay ninkale oo isku
rajisgareeyay magaca ahmed_eegge waxuuna ku daray magacaa "e" dheeraad
ah sida aad ku arki doonto qoraaldii hore ee "ahmed eegge" iyo kuwa
kale oo uu qoray ninka cusub ee qsaka iyo labka wada hadii aan midaa
mehsaa ooga baxo sheekadu meel fiican ayay inoomaraysay.
lakiin waxaan kuu sheegi in wadankaa aan la dhihin magacan aad la
ordayso ee ah soomali -galbeed waligiisna aan la dhihin doonin dhulkan
waxa loo yaqaan waa "OGADENIA" qabiilka waxaa looyaqaana "ogaadeen" ee
sidaa ula soco waxii hada ka danbeeya waxan waa dhul maqan magaca uu ku
maqan yahay ayuunbaa lagu raadin.
Ogadenia waxaa lagu xoreyn qalin iyo qori labada ee sidaa ula soco.
sidaas iyo nabad galyo
majuwana (freedom supporter)
Mahmoud Abib
>A while back a brother had asked you" How do you know the
>number of Salaat or the number of Rakaat in each Salaat,
>if you only consult the Quran".>>>
Salaam Carrabay,
First, the question is a "slap on Allah's face". When Allah says
the Quran is complete and fully detailed, we need to accept that
fact unhesitantly and without questions, period.
Second, the number of Salaat prayers are listed in the Quran:
1. The Dawn Prayer or Fajr is found in these Ayats: (11:114, 24:58).
2. The Noon Prayer or Duhr is found in (17:78).
3. The Afternoon Prayer or Asr' (2:238).
4. The Sunset Prayer or Maqrib (11:114).
5. The Night Prayer or Cisha (24:58).
Furthermore, we have the Friday Jummah (congregational prayer)
which is an obligatory upon every Submitting man and woman (62:9).
Third, the number of rakaats WERE NEVER DISPUTED and were
never an issue. Therefore, the Quran corrected ONLY what was
corrupted. And that is why we do not see the rakaat
units in the Quran. One needs not to correct someone when s/he
is doing things properly in the first place. That is what I mean when
I say the Quran corrected only what was corrupted. Hence, the number
of rakaats were 24434 before the prophet, and they remain
the same today.
Fourth, Islam EXISTED before Prophet Muhammad. Islam was not
a new religion brought by Prophet Muhammad. People used to
pray Salaat before the Prophet, and people worshiped Allah
before the Prophet. This point is very crucial! When we understand
the fact that there were no such things as the "flying horse" and that
blasphemous story, then it becomes clear.
Fifth, before we do salaat, we must perform "Weyso" or ablution.
Does the Quran details how to do ablution? Certainly. Here is the
list and the Quran's perspective. You will find the list in sura 5: verse 6:
(1) wash your faces,
(2) wash your arms to the elbows,
(3) wipe your heads, and
(4) wash your feet to the ankles.
Question: Is that how muslims perform ablution? No!!!!!
So Carrabay, even if you show those who refute the Quran's
completeness the number of rakaats in the Quran on bold letters,
the MAJORITY WILL PREFER HUMAN WORDS OVER ALLAH'S
Clear and DIRECT commands.
peace, M.Abib
Mac Dhiirane
The unfortunate drought, misfortun, has been to some degree the workings of
clan to the effect as in somalia.
The only people who use this name are ONLF members, not to be confused with
the Oromo's OLF, but are a group of radicals who want nothing less for an
independent country by that same name. They do not wish to be any part of
Somalia nor Ethiopia. They don't mind other people living in that region as
long as that name remains. Members in this group is limited to as per the
name says.
WSLF -- another one of the former Somalia creation. It includes of all
people from that region plus more from the Somalia republic itself. The
objective of this group is very clear or (was) clear... yank that region
from there to here.
AlItihad Al Islamic - this is a joke. Actually their objective is to start a
new country called Ummah or to join whoever starts a similar one in the
region as long it is ruled as per the Islamic way only. This group is not a
clan based as they the followings from places like luq city which lead a
trail for tigrey to follow there.
Others include the Somali democratic groups of region 5. This group is like
WSLF except they're being sponsored by Ethiopia itself to appose all the
above. This group is clan based as usaul and consists the mother of all
clans except you know who...
The same clans that are in Somalia also live in that region. same clan
skirmishes daily so there you have it!
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> i don't think you are real ahmed eegge but you are using his name by
> regitering yourself ahmed eegge name and buting extra "e" that is shame
> to you
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> visit this web address
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M. Yusuf
waa maxay ogadeen? waa magac qiil sida magacyda qabaailka oo kale.
dhul ogaadeen la yiraahda ma jiraa? jawaabtu waa maya.
maxay ku doodayaan kuwa Damiirlawayaasha ee halkaan warka ku qoray?
jawaab: doofaarka bahalka la yirahda damiir malaha laba siyoodba ( waa mida
hore saxaradiisa ayuu cunaa, waa mida labaade kiisa ninkaa xaaskiisa akma
ceshado raga kale). waxaa taas la mid ah aadanaha shaqsiga gumaysiga
dhushiisa saaran u adeega iyo kaan ka dhiidhiyiyin oo aan danqan.
kuwiina ku doodaya dhulka gacanta gumaysiga foosha xun een xabashida ku jira
lama yiraahdo somali-galbeed waxaad ka dhigan tihiin xagayga doofaarka
sifahaas leh.
somali-galbeed waa dhul somaliyeed oo somali ka maqan, xorayntiisuna waxay
masuuliyadu saarantahay qof kasta oo somali ah, gaar ahaan kuwa dagaankaas
dagan. ummada somaliyeed taasi mid ay moog tahay maaha oo taasi waxaa
marqaati u ah maal iyo naftoodaba way u hureen hadaynu taariikhda xaqiiqada
ka sheegayno. waxaan ogahay in sababta uu dhulkaasi wali gacanta gumaysga
ugu jiro ay tahay sabab ay leeyihiin dadka somali- galbeed dagan, gaar ahaan
kuwa ku doodaaya dulkaan waxaa la yiraahda ogaadeen.
shalay awoowayashiin iyo abayashii ayaa shisheegye kalkalnimo dhulkaas
gacanta gumaysiga u galiyey ( caado qaatayaal).mantana waxay ku doodaysaan
midaan si aad qalaaaso kale u abuuraan oo dadka
somali- galbeed gacanta gumaysiga ugu jiro.
waxaan ku dhashay somali-galbeed, waxaan aad uga xumahay in kuwo
sheeganaya in ay dagaankaas ku dhasheen ay ayagoo gumaysiga u adeegaya ay
ummadda somaliyeed halkaan aflagaado ula yimaadaan,
meeshay u mahad celin lahaayeen kaalinta lama iloobaanka ee ay ka qaateen
walina ay diyaarka walalahooda ula yihiin.!!!!!!! taasi walahayga somaliyeed
waxaan ka leeyahay maha kuwo matali karaaya dhulka ay sheeganayaa waana
damiirlawayaal uu gumaytuhu caana boore u walaaqo ,oo kaba qaadya kuna
qaraabanaaya magaca dadka ku nool somali- galbeed. dhulka somali- galbeed
waa ka baxayaa gacanta cadawga waana dhul somali oo dhan, caado qaatayaasha
iyo gumaytahana guul daro ayaa u danbayn doonta.
waxaan mahad u celinayaa walahayga somaliyeed ee jawaabta ku haboon siiyey
dhamiirlawayaasha halkaan dooda keenay indha cadaynta oo gumaystaha
xabashida siyaasadiisa qaybi oo xukuna gacanta siinaya.
M. Yusuf
nuur...@my-deja.com
waxaan hubaa in aad ubaahantahay in aad madaxa aad iska soo baadho qof
caadi ah matihid waxii kharash ah ee ku baxa baadhidaadana u dir kufriga
melas zenawi ee itoobiya heysta isaga ayaa bixinayee sababtoo ah dadka
diga oo kale ah ee maangaabka ah ee meel hoose iyo qabiil ku fikira
ayuu jecel yahay kala saar magac dhul iyo magac qabiil ogaden is a land
ogaadeen waa qabiilka dhulkaa iska leh soomalidu nin walba meel ayuu
iska leeyahay hadii aad umaleysay in dhulkan ay xabashi waligeed joogi
doonto oo uu qof walba iska sheegan karo anigaa iska leh iyo ayeeyday
ayaa ku dhalatay waad khaldantahay oo orad oo madaxa iska soo baadh.
anigu i aan maanta ku doodo "waqooyi" anigaa wax ku leh waxaan umaleyn
in uusan madxaygu iga yeeleen ama "bari" ayaan wax ku leeyahay ama
"xamar" iyaguna igama yeeleen oo waad ogtahay in waxii aan dadkooda
aheyn dabka ku shubeen!!!!!! laakiin anigu waan ka fiicnahay waxaan kuu
ogolaaday in aad ku noolaato oo aad sheegato dhulkaeyga laakiin waa in
aad u dagaalantaa oo la timaadaa in aad u ragto cadowga dhulka heysta
in uusan wax kheyr ah uusan kuu soo wadin
meesha leyskama hadlo waxaa fiican marka hore in aad maskaxdaada aad
isticmaasho adiga oo kale waan aqaanaa waxaa tahay mafikire iska
tageeraya wax uu san lasocon.
dhulkan ay xabashidu gumayasato waxaa layidhaahdaa OGADEN LAND aan kuu
sheego wax layiraahdo soomali-galbeed majiraan ee sidaa oola socda
adiga iyo kuwa kula midka ah ee maan gaabka ah!!!!!!!!
orad oo taariikhda aduunyada soo baadh inta aadan la soo ordin somali-
galbeed orad oo maabka aduunyada kafiiri "ogaden" waad ka helaysaa
laakiin ka heli maysid soomali-galbeed oo uu afweyne bixiyay waxaan kuu
sheegi in aad caqli gaab tahay hadii aad la socoto ethiopia waxay ukala
qeysansantahay dad walba reginka ay degaan sida " oromo region" ogaden
region" tigree region " habasha region " wax layidhaahdo somali-galbeed
ma uu jiro taasi waa waxii ay dawladii afweyne ay siyaasad xumadeedi ku
fashilantay,
waxaan ku dagaal galynaa oo aan ku raadinaynaa dhulkaanaga "OGADEN"
adiga iyo dadka kula midka ah ee xanuunsan ee ay cuduradu iyo wadaadudu
ay ku soo dagayaan marka ay maqlaan magaca ogaden lagala tashan mahayo.
ama jeclow ama necbow !!!!!!!!! taasi waa mid adiga ku khusaysa.
sidaas iyo fikar wacan
nuuradiin
M. Yusuf
Waxaad ka fogtahay xaqiiqada, taasi waxa kugu kalifayana maaha mid aan meel
fog ka raadinaayo oo asal iyo sinji ayaad u leedahay. magaca ( ogaden-land )
gumaysi ayaa sameeyey ee maaha mid ummada somali-galbeed ay la baxday,
taariikhda dib u raac ( qaybi oo xukun )
casharkaan qaado dhulka qabiil kasta oo somaliyeed ayaa dagan sida:- ciise,
canfar, adrariyiin, Isaaq, majeerteen, ogadeen, gari, bartire,
habasguul,hawiye, dir, warwarood,midgo, sidaan kuma aan soo koobikaraajo
dhamaan iwm.
ogadeen waa qabiil ahaan marka loo eego qabiilka ugu badan ee dhulka somali
galbeed dagan,waana ka yaryihiin 40% guud ahaa marka dadwaynaha la tiro
koobo. waxayna dagaan dhulka oomanaha ee aynu wada garanayno ( fiiri maanta
waxa ka taagan) . maanlaawowe miyaadan ogayn in in dhulka intiisa muhiimkaa
dadka dagan in aysan qabiilka ogadeen ahayn, sida dirir- dhabe , harar,
ji-jiga iwm. ee ay yihiin somali- galbeed qabiiladeeda kale.
Haddaynu taariikhda runta ka sheegayno qabiilka aad ku doodayso maaha mid
naftiisa iyo walalihiis midna magac wanaagsan u soo hoyiyey, haddaad aniga
wax iga maqlaysana waxaan ku aran lahaa sheegashadiisa iska daa, waayo
magacaasi waxuu ka dhigan yahay ( cawaan, dhuuni qaate, dameerlaawe,
shisheeye kalkaal, doqon iwm). Anigu kama aan dhigin waxgaradkooda ayaa ka
dhigay, intaaso sifo ayuu ummada somaliyeed ,caalamka iyo gumaystaha
laftigiisaba ka leeyahay.
ma xusuusantahay in xayle salaase yidhi itoobiya sidaan ayaan ku xukumaa:(1)
ogadeen hunguri (2) amxaaro dil (3) eriteriya daaqilyo hoose (4) tigree
ganacsi ayaan u dayey.
haddad waali u aragto sheegashada dhulka somaliyeed sida hargasa ,bassaaso
iyo xamar midaan ayaan kuleyahay, waa gartaa oo danbile ayaad ka tahay. hase
yeeshee maaha wiilkagu mid uusan sheegan karayn.
waxaad taasi u diidaysa shalay markii qaxootigii somali- galbeed uu siyaad
barre u adeegsaday sidii xabaddii kuwii danbilayaasha ahaa ayaad ahayd oo
burburka somali wayn qaybta ka qaadanayey.
runtu waxay tahay waad garanaysaa hargaysa qabiilkaad sheeganayso waxuu ka
gaysatay waad ogtahay.
taasi macnaheedu maaha hadaad adigu danbiile tahay in dadka somali- galbeed
aysan hargeesa iyo xamar sheegan karayn, kan dagaanka u lehna somali-
galbeed waa dhul wali gacanta gumaysiga uga maqan oo waa tuu naftiisa iyo
maalkiisa u huraayey, maatadana gargaarayey walina maankiisa kama maqna.
taasi abaal wayn ayaan u hayaa walalahayga somaliyeed ee gacanta nasiinayey
markaan ku hadlaayo magaca somali- galbeed, maanta oo aan somali wayn ogahay
xaalda ka jitrana waxaan u rajaynayaa in ay ka kabtaan buburka gaaray oo aad
adigu qaybta ka qaadatay taageerona waan la garab taagnahay. haddaad taasi
waali u aragtaan kuwiina dameerlawayaasha taariikhda ayaa sidii
awoowayaashii indin dafiri doonta oo raadkiinu meel uu ku danbeeyey lama
arki doono.
waxaan idin waydiinaya daamiirlaweyaa dhulka somali-galbeed markii (ahmed
gurey) u halgamayey ogadeen xagee jiray? markii amiir omar halgamyey
ogaadeen xagee jiray? markii wiil waal halgamayey ogadeen xagee jiray?
markii ugu danbaysay oo somaliyi aysan u kala harin ogadeen xagee jiray?
taasi jawaabteeda ummadda somaliyeed oo idil ayey u furan tahay oo tayda
qormadayda danbe ayaan ku soo gudbinaaya.
waxaan halkaan mar labaad mahad u celinayaa walahayga somaliyeed kaalinta ay
ka qaateen halgankii gobanimo doonka soomaali- galbeed, waxaanan faraaya in
ay ogadaan in ay jiraan kuwa u adegaya gumaystaha oo sheeganaya in ay
gobanimo doon yihiin sida kuwa halkaan aflagadada iyo beenta ku soo
qoraya.waxaa itaas idiin raacinayaa maanta waxaan idiin rajaynayaa xaalada
jirta somali wayn in aad ka gudubtaan waqtiga adag adinka oo isku duuban,
waayo taasi ayaa adinkana dani idiinku jirtaa anagoo gacan gumaysi wali ku
sugana ay dani noogu jirtaa si aan ugu soo biiro somalida xortaa, taasi oo
aan halgankeeda wadno guushuna ay dhalan doonto.
haddal yar waa midkaan kuwiina damiirlawayaasha ee ku doodaya in aad
doonaysaan wadan ogadeen la yiraahdo kaasi horay uma jirin hadana
maskaxdiina kasaara, garasha xumadii awoowayaashiin iyo abyashiin ayaa
keentay in aad jinsiyadiina garan waydaaane. casharkaan aqristoo caruurtiina
bara cida ay dhab ahaantii jinsiyadoodu tahay ( waa somaali waana soomaali
oo waa soomaali oo sinjigiina cadaw gumayste badali karo u dhaha.
dagaankeena somali-galbeedna wali xor maaha oo gumaystaha itoobiya ayaa ku
hoos noolnahay ee u dagaalama xoriyada).
Ujeedadadu maaha ogaadeen qabiilka la yiraahdo oo idil in aan u dan leeyahay
ee waa kuwa somali diidka iyo kuwa damiirlawa yaasha ee hogaamiyaasha
ogaadeen ah waxa aan u jeeda. sida kuwa maanta waxa daaqiliyada loo yaqaan
ee ummada somali - galbeed lagu marin habinaayo taageersan.
waxaan ahay somaali sinjigaygu waa kaas ( Harar iyo Hawash baa i hudhan,
Muqdishiyo iyo Hargaysa i hudhan)
M. yusuf
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Mahmoud Abib
nuur...@my-deja.com wrote in message
>>>to: mental m.yusuf>>>
Waxan idin weydiiyay: Maxay tahay sababta qofkii wax
idiin sheegaba u yahay "mental iyo shayaadiin"?
Ogow hadda, qof waalani wuxu moodo in la wada waalan yahay.
Markaan akhriyay qoraalkaaga iyo ka u qoray Mr. Yusuf,
wax isku dhaw oo la is barbar dhigi karo ma'aha. Waxa aad
qortay qof "mental" ah ayuunbay ka suurta gashaa in u qoro.
Aqoontaada korodhso oo Yusuf wax ka baro. Aflagaadana joojiya.
Nabadgelyo,
M.Abib
ethop...@my-deja.com
Cool down Mahmoud. You are one of the few Participants that I respect
in this forum. Don't be emotional. I wonder how you treat your wife at
nights.
carr...@yahoo.com
Abiib waa salaaman tahay,
Thanks for responding to the question.... This was basically Q& A,
because I don't engage religious debate for two reasons... My knowlegde
toward subject is limited, and secondly I find it very counter productive
because it generally results MACSIYO( sin). Even though you haven't
presented the DALIIL about regarding the RAKAAT of salaat, I am still
satasfied with your response. At the end of the day, each one is entitled
to his opinion and bears the consquencies in the day of Judgment. For
me, I would never intend to undermine the teachings of messenger
Mohamed, peace be upon him. I find it contradictory to take the Quran at
face value, which as we all know he(Mohamed SAWS) had relayed to
mankind from ALLAH, but question his SUNNA. If I trusted and accepted
the Quran, I can certainlly accept the Sunna too. To make a lame
anology, it is like someone telling me about a pot of gold and believing
him, yet throwing away the map to that gold. Believing in that gold alone,
what good it is gonna do for me really. That is how I look at it.
May Allah guide all Muslims in the right path.
Take care brother,
Carrabay.
carr...@my-deja.com
Abdirashid
The question was simple and, hence you should have answered as such without
raving about what got corrupted or not. This was a new tactic your part.
Secondly, at times when you think of it to your advantage, you make
quotations. When, however, it appears against your argument, it is your
habit to give numbers. Significant doubts linger here. Now, I will quote the
Ayaat (verses) of the qur'an in full so your idolatrous agenda would further
be exposed.
1) The Dawn Prayer or Fajr is found in these Ayats: (11:114, 24:58).
Suratu Huud (11:114) Allah (swt) says: "And establish regular prayers at the
two ends of the day And the approaches of the nights..."
Suratul Nuur (24:58) Allah says:".......Ask your permission (before they
become to your presence), on three occasions: before morning prayer; the
while ye doff your clothes for the moonday heat; and after the late-night
prayer.....".
Where is the number of Rakacaat in those Ayat?
2) The Noon Prayer or Duhr is found in (17:78). SO ABIB CLAIMS!!!.
Sura Al-Isra (17:78) Allah says..." Establish regular prayers at the sun's
declineTill the darkness of the night and the morning prayers and reading
for the prayer and reading in the morning carry their testimony". Again
where is the number Rakaat?. Can prayer in the darness of night be Duhr?.
May be in M. Abib's idolatrous worshipping.
The rest of numbers he provided convey exactly same meanings as the two
examples given above. It is now clear that M. Abib talking about Islam is
just a waste of time. An additional question is where did he get the number
of rakaat (24434!!!). Did they come from the magic numbers of his prophet
Rashad Khalifa, may curse of Allah be on him?. A more crucial point is that
this man does not believe in Shahaada; LAA ILAAHA ILLA ALLAHU MUXAMADAN
RASUULULLAH. Therefore discussing with him about salaat may not be
appropriate. And Carrabey's question still remains, and probably will,
unanswered.
Abdirashid