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Jerry Geiger
Jan 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/30/99
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I'm doing genealogical research regarding the windish people. I believe that
groups of windish people emigrated to the United States from what is now
Slovenia. I would appreciate receiving any information as to where in
Slovenia these people came from. If their are any websites in the windish
language or regarding the windish, kindly advise. Thank you.
groups of windish people emigrated to the United States from what is now
Slovenia. I would appreciate receiving any information as to where in
Slovenia these people came from. If their are any websites in the windish
language or regarding the windish, kindly advise. Thank you.
Jerry Geiger
gge...@ptdprolog.net
soc.culture.slovenia
Jan 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/30/99
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soc.culture.slovenia
Jan 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/30/99
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Jerry, so called "Windish" reffers to Slovenes in the Austrian and Slovenian
province of Carantania (Roman name), however it can actually be reffered to
all Slovenes as Windi, or as some writers say Veneti. If we assume that
Veneti were actually Slovenes, that ecompasses a lot of people, across a
good part of Europe. You can read about it in the books by Matej Bor and
Tomazic.
Regards!
Bozidar Golob
Ottawa
Barbara Bizjak
Feb 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/4/99
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I believe what you are talking about is a big misunderstanding. There is
no such thing as Wenden or Windish people!
Winden or Wenden was originally a german expression for Veneti and later
for all Slavic peoples. As the time passed, the expression Windish was
used to describe a Slovene living amidst a predominantly German
population (in Austria - Koroska or Karnten region) and Wenden for other
Slavic people who lived in the same situation (Polabski Slovani, Luziski
Srbi).
Already during but especially after the WW1 the expression Windish got a
negative connotation in Kartnten and Steiermark (Austria) and a special
theory (Windish theory) was developed, claiming that there exists a
special Windish population with its own language, different from German
or Slovene, which has not evolved to its written form yet. That people
were Slovenes speaking their language, which was a mixture of Slovene
(spoken and learned at home) and German (the official language). The
theory, aimed at denying these people their cultural identity and the
right to express it, became very agressive in the years after the year
1920. The category "Windish language" was first used in a 1939 census (a
nazi one).
A similar theory (Wenden theory)was developed in Hungary, where a lot of
people have emigrated from after the war and took the theory with them
to the States.
no such thing as Wenden or Windish people!
Winden or Wenden was originally a german expression for Veneti and later
for all Slavic peoples. As the time passed, the expression Windish was
used to describe a Slovene living amidst a predominantly German
population (in Austria - Koroska or Karnten region) and Wenden for other
Slavic people who lived in the same situation (Polabski Slovani, Luziski
Srbi).
Already during but especially after the WW1 the expression Windish got a
negative connotation in Kartnten and Steiermark (Austria) and a special
theory (Windish theory) was developed, claiming that there exists a
special Windish population with its own language, different from German
or Slovene, which has not evolved to its written form yet. That people
were Slovenes speaking their language, which was a mixture of Slovene
(spoken and learned at home) and German (the official language). The
theory, aimed at denying these people their cultural identity and the
right to express it, became very agressive in the years after the year
1920. The category "Windish language" was first used in a 1939 census (a
nazi one).
A similar theory (Wenden theory)was developed in Hungary, where a lot of
people have emigrated from after the war and took the theory with them
to the States.
Barbara
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