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Murchadh

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Feb 8, 2004, 1:48:57 AM2/8/04
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D'ye smell like a pig cutter's semmit?
(Do you smell like a pig castrator's vest?) (US: undershirt)

That was the opening line for a soap commercial by Johnny Polson on
Caithness Radio, "comin til ye live, county-wide across eh hulls an
moors uh Caithnaass from wur studio, a second floor rented room in
MacKay's Motel, in eh swingan toonie a Weeck!" etc.

Hilarious episodes such as when the station mechanic, Big Jock Budge
having bent the handlebars of the Outside Broadcast Unit, ate some
scones for his tea which a lady, Mrs. C. ("We dinna use real names til
avoid lynchin") had sent in for a contest but had accidently baked,
with castor oil instead of castor sugar.

"Ah kin see hum yet, Mrs. C., mekkin for eh door (rhymes with poor) wi
eh flex from hus Budge tartan earphones streamun oot behind hum. But
at's no y end o y story there, Mrs. C, because when he got til eh
roomie, it was locked in hus face! For inside, Mrs. C,; inside was wur
secretary, Jessie, desperately tryun til get rid o yer last week's
entry..."

Johnny Poulson was really Colin Campbell, the funniest man I had heard
from the Highlands in a long time, who had an enviable range of
Northern and Northeast accents which he handled perfectly. His
interview on Radio Bettyhill with John Angus Mackay on how to pick up
a girl at a Sutherland dance was a classic that reduced me to helpless
laughter.

"The lassies are always in wan corner, whisperin an gigglin......ye
make yer way across the floor to her and when you get within ten
yairds - or 30 feet if ye've gone metric - ye pull a half-bottle from
your pocket, an take a swig oota it yerself. Then ye proffer it to the
young maiden and utter these romantic words, 'Here wumman - tek a sook
oota that!'"

You can see that I still remember the dialogue with no problem at all.
(Actually, I've rewritten it slightly for the sake of comprehension.)
I often wondered if Colin Campbell ever took his act further, but from
what I can find out he seems to have been "Piobair a aona phuirt" (A
piper with one tune). A shame, because his act was great.

------------------------------------------------------
Salesman: And how are you getting along with the completely waterproof
nappies (diapers) I gave you to try out on Little Torquil?

Hebridean mother: Och fine. Chist fine. Ah havna changed him for a
minth! Thi only proplem iss, he's gettin aaful heavy to lift!
------------------------------------------------------

Murchadh.

S Viemeister

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Feb 8, 2004, 10:31:38 AM2/8/04
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Murchadh wrote:
>
> You can see that I still remember the dialogue with no problem at all.
> (Actually, I've rewritten it slightly for the sake of comprehension.)
> I often wondered if Colin Campbell ever took his act further, but from
> what I can find out he seems to have been "Piobair a aona phuirt" (A
> piper with one tune). A shame, because his act was great.
>
Have you heard his 'Balinaheuchter Air Traffic Control' routine?
It's on the same recording as 'Rev MacLeod's Quickie Divorce Service', and
'The Highland Wind Crofter'.

Sheila

Sally

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Feb 8, 2004, 9:49:26 PM2/8/04
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S Viemeister <firstname...@which.net> wrote in message news:<4026565A...@which.net>...

Verra funny! not quite tears running doon ma face, but loud laugh! Sal

Murchadh

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Feb 8, 2004, 10:24:18 PM2/8/04
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Really? All new stuff then! I must start saving my pennies...

Murchadh.

S Viemeister

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Feb 8, 2004, 10:27:54 PM2/8/04
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Ask nicely, and I might pick up a copy of his most recent tape for you,
next time I visit my favourite music shop in Inverness.

Sheila

Murchadh

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Feb 9, 2004, 10:10:12 AM2/9/04
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On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 22:27:54 -0500, S Viemeister
<firstname...@which.net> wrote:

That's far too much to ask of you - I can buy them online and I
certainly don't want to put you to any trouble. How very nice of you
to offer.

Murchadh.

Helen Ramsay

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Feb 9, 2004, 10:37:27 AM2/9/04
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"Murchadh" <murc...@shaw.ca> wrote

> S Viemeister<firstname...@which.net> wrote:
> >Murchadh wrote:
> >>
> >> You can see that I still remember the dialogue with no problem at
all.
> >> (Actually, I've rewritten it slightly for the sake of
comprehension.)
> >> I often wondered if Colin Campbell ever took his act further, but
from
> >> what I can find out he seems to have been "Piobair a aona phuirt"
(A
> >> piper with one tune). A shame, because his act was great.
> >>
> >Have you heard his 'Balinaheuchter Air Traffic Control' routine?
> >It's on the same recording as 'Rev MacLeod's Quickie Divorce
Service', and
> >'The Highland Wind Crofter'.
> >
>
> Really? All new stuff then! I must start saving my pennies...

Looks good. They have lots of good things at this site. It's in Perth,
so I'll have to have a look when I'm home in June.

http://www.concordemusic.com/

Colin Campbell "Local Radio - Volume 13" CD
Tracks include Donnie the Dounreay Rabbit, Local Radio Mastermind,
Shorepath to Kyle, Hedgie McPrickle, Unfair Dismissal, The Flow Country,
For a' That and a' That, George Christie of Fochabers, Sir Freddie
Fitztightly, The Weeks Semi Good Cause Appeal, The Song of the Failed
Boxie Player, Balmacara Once More, The Holiday Programme & The Furrows
End.

I had just finished looking at this when I felt a bit strange. I went to
get a drink of water and the next thing I remember was looking up at my
kitchen ceiling and wondering how I got there! Maybe it was the price of
the CD:)
--
Cheers, Helen
hramsay at cogeco dot ca

Murchadh

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Feb 9, 2004, 5:32:08 PM2/9/04
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On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 10:37:27 -0500, "Helen Ramsay" <r...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

I hope ye were jokin!

These look better at £8.99 each, halfway down the page.

http://www.musicinscotland.com/musicstore/search_result.asp?REFERER=OvertureUS&description=Colin%20Campbell

Murchadh.

Helen Ramsay

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Feb 9, 2004, 9:01:51 PM2/9/04
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"Murchadh" <murc...@shaw.ca> wrote
> "Helen Ramsay" <r...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> >Looks good. They have lots of good things at this site. It's in
Perth,
> >so I'll have to have a look when I'm home in June.
> >
> > http://www.concordemusic.com/
> >
> >Colin Campbell "Local Radio - Volume 13" CD
> >Tracks include Donnie the Dounreay Rabbit, Local Radio Mastermind,
> >Shorepath to Kyle, Hedgie McPrickle, Unfair Dismissal, The Flow
Country,
> >For a' That and a' That, George Christie of Fochabers, Sir Freddie
> >Fitztightly, The Weeks Semi Good Cause Appeal, The Song of the Failed
> >Boxie Player, Balmacara Once More, The Holiday Programme & The
Furrows
> >End.
> >
> >I had just finished looking at this when I felt a bit strange. I went
to
> >get a drink of water and the next thing I remember was looking up at
my
> >kitchen ceiling and wondering how I got there! Maybe it was the price
of
> >the CD:)
>

> I hope ye were jokin!

Actually no:( I woke up wondering in slow motion why I was on the floor
and how did I get there. The huge goose egg and bruise on my noggin were
proof indeed. I had to spend the night in Emergency at
McMasterUniversity Medical Centre.

You know, we hear complaints about our health care but from the time the
Telehealth Ontario nurse hung up an ambulance was at the door in about 2
minutes! I kidded them that I wouldn't be able to write a Letter To The
Editor complaining about poor service:) Immediately upon arrival at the
hospital my symptoms were recorded by a nurse, blood pressure was taken
and orders were given for blood work, blood sugar and an ECG/EKG. I also
have an appointment with a neurologist tomorrow! How's that for sevice?

> These look better at Ł8.99 each, halfway down the page.
>
>
http://www.musicinscotland.com/musicstore/search_result.asp?REFERER=OvertureUS&description=Colin%20Campbell
>
Lots of good ones. I'd rather have the CDs though. The place in Perth
says that they have lots more in store than they show on the website so
a wee browse will be in order. I've already got almost Ł100 worth of
stuff to be delivered to my Mother's from Amazon.co.uk. I'll be getting
thrown of the plane on the way back:)

Rick

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Feb 9, 2004, 9:16:49 PM2/9/04
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Helen Ramsay wrote:

> "Murchadh" <murc...@shaw.ca> wrote


>
> > I hope ye were jokin!
>
> Actually no:( I woke up wondering in slow motion why I was on the floor
> and how did I get there. The huge goose egg and bruise on my noggin were
> proof indeed. I had to spend the night in Emergency at
> McMasterUniversity Medical Centre.
>
> You know, we hear complaints about our health care but from the time the
> Telehealth Ontario nurse hung up an ambulance was at the door in about 2
> minutes! I kidded them that I wouldn't be able to write a Letter To The
> Editor complaining about poor service:) Immediately upon arrival at the
> hospital my symptoms were recorded by a nurse, blood pressure was taken
> and orders were given for blood work, blood sugar and an ECG/EKG. I also
> have an appointment with a neurologist tomorrow! How's that for sevice?
>

> > These look better at £8.99 each, halfway down the page.


> >
> >
> http://www.musicinscotland.com/musicstore/search_result.asp?REFERER=OvertureUS&description=Colin%20Campbell
> >
> Lots of good ones. I'd rather have the CDs though. The place in Perth
> says that they have lots more in store than they show on the website so

> a wee browse will be in order. I've already got almost £100 worth of


> stuff to be delivered to my Mother's from Amazon.co.uk. I'll be getting
> thrown of the plane on the way back:)
> --
> Cheers, Helen
> hramsay at cogeco dot ca

Hey! Don't be doing stuff like that! :-(
Take care of yourself and let us know the results.
Hopefully it won't be anything but a fainting spell...

Murchadh

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Feb 9, 2004, 9:53:01 PM2/9/04
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On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 21:01:51 -0500, "Helen Ramsay" <r...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>"Murchadh" <murc...@shaw.ca> wrote

It sounds excellent. It also sounds like you had a blackout. May have
been something passing through from heart to brain that caused a
momentary obstruction. That's what pressing on the carotid artery
simulates, producing the same effect, i.e. instant loss of
consciousness.

>
>> These look better at £8.99 each, halfway down the page.


>>
>>
>http://www.musicinscotland.com/musicstore/search_result.asp?REFERER=OvertureUS&description=Colin%20Campbell
>>
>Lots of good ones. I'd rather have the CDs though. The place in Perth
>says that they have lots more in store than they show on the website so

>a wee browse will be in order. I've already got almost £100 worth of


>stuff to be delivered to my Mother's from Amazon.co.uk. I'll be getting
>thrown of the plane on the way back:)
>--
>Cheers, Helen
>hramsay at cogeco dot ca
>
>


Murchadh.

S Viemeister

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Feb 9, 2004, 10:12:03 PM2/9/04
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Helen Ramsay wrote:
>
> Actually no:( I woke up wondering in slow motion why I was on the floor
> and how did I get there. The huge goose egg and bruise on my noggin were
> proof indeed. I had to spend the night in Emergency at
> McMasterUniversity Medical Centre.
>
> You know, we hear complaints about our health care but from the time the
> Telehealth Ontario nurse hung up an ambulance was at the door in about 2
> minutes! I kidded them that I wouldn't be able to write a Letter To The
> Editor complaining about poor service:) Immediately upon arrival at the
> hospital my symptoms were recorded by a nurse, blood pressure was taken
> and orders were given for blood work, blood sugar and an ECG/EKG. I also
> have an appointment with a neurologist tomorrow! How's that for sevice?
>
I, too, assumed you were joking - take care of yourself! And let us know
how you're doing.

Sheila

ZsaZsa

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Feb 9, 2004, 10:39:42 PM2/9/04
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"Helen Ramsay" <r...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Holy shit Helen! I am so glad you did the right thing and looked after
yourself, and called for help right away. I hope it doesn't turn out to be
anything serious. Remember to do the obvious things, like eating even if you
haven't much appetite, getting enough sleep, and drinking even if you're not
thirsty. (I dehydrate myself all the time through pre-occupation & absent
mindedness).

Mac is a great hospital. Their unique med school is the best in the country
IMO, and they have a reputation for real common sense. If one of their
specialists orders tests and stuff, they are likely to be really necessary,
and not just some clever person using all the high-tech toys at their
disposal.


ejaycee

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Feb 9, 2004, 11:00:58 PM2/9/04
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"Helen Ramsay" <r...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I had just finished looking at this when I felt a bit strange. I
went to
> get a drink of water and the next thing I remember was looking up at
my
> kitchen ceiling and wondering how I got there! Maybe it was the
price of
> the CD:)
> --

Good job I know you don't drink

Take care - we don't want you missing in action with May looming on
the horizon

Ejaycee >


Jim Stewart

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Feb 9, 2004, 11:21:22 PM2/9/04
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"ZsaZsa" <re...@ng.org> wrote in message
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I am sure they will give you a pill or two to work things out. Don't worry
and
follow Doctors orders. We will worry for you. Barb sends her sympathies
and love.

Jim Stewart


MacRobert

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Feb 9, 2004, 11:49:35 PM2/9/04
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On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 21:01:51 -0500, "Helen Ramsay" <r...@hotmail.com>
paused to reflect but wrote anyway:


I don't suppose you would like a box of Jello sent to "India Rubber
Ramsay" every Feb 07 from now on?

Oh, yeah, almost forgot. Is the counterop all right...?


Stephen

SammyM

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Feb 10, 2004, 6:43:25 AM2/10/04
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"Helen Ramsay" wrote :-

> - - I had to spend the night in Emergency at
> McMasterUniversity Medical Centre.

Take care Helen.
My thoughts and prayers are with you.

SammyM

Elaine Goldberg

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Feb 10, 2004, 7:14:19 PM2/10/04
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SammyM wrote:

>Take care Helen.
>My thoughts and prayers are with you.

Ditto what Sammy says, Helen. Please look after yourself.

Elaine

lochmaree

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Feb 10, 2004, 8:06:07 PM2/10/04
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"Helen Ramsay" wrote

I woke up wondering in slow motion why I was on the floor
and how did I get there. The huge goose egg and bruise on my noggin were
proof indeed. I had to spend the night in Emergency at McMasterUniversity
Medical Centre.

Hi Helen,

I'm in Mississauga - not far from you. I'm glad they treated you well at
McMaster. If I can be of assistance, if you need a lift, groceries, plants
watered, anything, let me know - and stay away from the Colin Campbell CD's
for awhile, eh!

take care,

joyce marie


ZsaZsa

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"lochmaree" <lochm...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Hey Joyce, thanks for offering to look after auntie Helen. Are you
Scottish?


Helen Ramsay

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Feb 10, 2004, 9:59:48 PM2/10/04
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"Helen Ramsay" <r...@hotmail.com> wrote

> I also have an appointment with a neurologist tomorrow!
> How's that for sevice?

The professor at Mac is sure it was irritation of the vagus nerve and
was probably a one shot deal:)

However, since my Father died from a heart attack at 60 and my Mother
had a heart attack at 62, to be on the safe side, he's sending me to the
nuclear medicine department for a Persantine Stress Test next Tuesday. I
may well glow in the dark after that:)

http://www.vmmc.org/dbCardiology/sec74454.htm

Helen Ramsay

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Feb 10, 2004, 10:01:25 PM2/10/04
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"S Viemeister" <firstname...@which.net> wrote

> I, too, assumed you were joking - take care of yourself!
> And let us know how you're doing.

Thanks Sheila. I've given the neurologist's diagnosis upthread.

Rick

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Helen Ramsay wrote:

Well, we want to hear from you EVERY day, please, or I'm gonna be worried
about you!

Helen Ramsay

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"ZsaZsa" <re...@ng.org> wrote

> Holy shit Helen! I am so glad you did the right thing and looked after
> yourself, and called for help right away. I hope it doesn't turn out
to be
> anything serious. Remember to do the obvious things, like eating even
if you
> haven't much appetite, getting enough sleep, and drinking even if
you're not
> thirsty. (I dehydrate myself all the time through pre-occupation &
absent
> mindedness).

Thanks Liz! The dehydration thing is an old trick of mine even although
I *do* know better.

> Mac is a great hospital. Their unique med school is the best in the
country
> IMO, and they have a reputation for real common sense. If one of their
> specialists orders tests and stuff, they are likely to be really
necessary,
> and not just some clever person using all the high-tech toys at their
> disposal.

It's a great teaching hospital. In fact I think they pioneered a
teaching method that is now used in many leading medical facilities. I'm
glad it's not even 5 minutes away:)

--
Cheers, Helen
hramsay at cogeco dot ca

I just found this...
The McMaster University medical school is one of the most innovative
medical schools in the world. It pioneered the community-oriented,
people-centred, interdisciplinary and problem-based learning model,
which has been adopted by many leading medical schools. McMaster is a
pioneer in the field of evidence based medicine.


Helen Ramsay

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Feb 10, 2004, 10:08:56 PM2/10/04
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"Jim Stewart" <ste...@ceet.niu.edu> wrote

> I am sure they will give you a pill or two to work things out.

Looks like I may not even need a pill Jim:)

> Don't worry and follow Doctors orders. We will worry for you.
> Barb sends her sympathies and love.

Thanks to you and Barb for the good wishes.

Helen Ramsay

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Feb 10, 2004, 10:10:17 PM2/10/04
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"MacRobert" <Ah_Et_...@nd.hewizguid!> wrote

> I don't suppose you would like a box of Jello sent to "India Rubber
> Ramsay" every Feb 07 from now on?

Make that the 8th and the Jello should be green please!

> Oh, yeah, almost forgot. Is the counterop all right...?

It's fine. Thank goodness for that!

Helen Ramsay

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"SammyM" <Sam...@world.com> wrote

Thanks Sammy. I appreciate that:)

MacRobert

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Feb 10, 2004, 10:36:26 PM2/10/04
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On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 22:10:17 -0500, "Helen Ramsay" <r...@hotmail.com>

paused to reflect but wrote anyway:

>"MacRobert" <Ah_Et_...@nd.hewizguid!> wrote


>
>> I don't suppose you would like a box of Jello sent to "India Rubber
>> Ramsay" every Feb 07 from now on?
>
>Make that the 8th and the Jello should be green please!

I would have thought red, black and blue...

http://www.house-of-tartan.scotland.net/house/tfinder.htp

And you thought I was cruisin' for a bruisin...

>
>> Oh, yeah, almost forgot. Is the counterop all right...?
>
>It's fine. Thank goodness for that!

Oh, good. Tradesmen can be *such* a bother...


BTW, stop doing that.

Stephen

ZsaZsa

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Feb 10, 2004, 10:56:32 PM2/10/04
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"Rick" <notgi...@alltel.net> wrote in message
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Yeah, what he said.


Helen Ramsay

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Feb 10, 2004, 11:24:02 PM2/10/04
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"Alan Hardie" <axha...@clara.co.uk> wrote
>
> And what, pray - happened to the goose? And what did
> you do with the egg?

I roasted the goose and scrambled the egg! It was a fine meal indeed:)

Helen Ramsay

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Feb 10, 2004, 11:26:40 PM2/10/04
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"lochmaree" <lochm...@hotmail.com> wrote
>
> "Helen Ramsay" wrote

Thank you joyce marie! That's very kind of you. I'll certainly keep it
in mind. Maybe the Colin Campbell CDs will be the ticket. After all,
laughter's the best medicine, eh? :)

Helen Ramsay

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Feb 10, 2004, 11:28:30 PM2/10/04
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"ejaycee" <mise_m...@hotmail.com.au> wrote

> Good job I know you don't drink

They asked me that a the medical centre and I told them I have an
unopened bottle of Scotch that I brought through duty free years ago.

> Take care - we don't want you missing in action with May looming on
> the horizon

Tell me about it! I'm in good hands though:)

Helen Ramsay

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Feb 10, 2004, 11:50:33 PM2/10/04
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"T N Nurse" <tnnu...@hotmail.com> wrote

> Oh - you take care of yourself.

Will do. Thanks. If I require the services of a nurse when I'm home in
June, can I count on you? :)

> > You know, we hear complaints about our health care but from the time
> > the Telehealth Ontario nurse hung up an ambulance was at the door in
> > about 2 minutes! I kidded them that I wouldn't be able to write a
> > Letter To The Editor complaining about poor service:) Immediately
upon
> > arrival at the hospital my symptoms were recorded by a nurse, blood
> > pressure was taken and orders were given for blood work, blood sugar
> > and an ECG/EKG. I also have an appointment with a neurologist
> > tomorrow! How's that for sevice?
>

> A *lot* better than the NHS. Is this free healthcare?

http://www.health.gov.on.ca/english/public/program/ohip/ohip_mn.html

I know we used to have premiums deducted from our wages years ago, but
the cost was later shifted to employers. I don't think that's the case
any longer because it was a hardship for small businesses. I'm certainly
not paying anything. I think it's now a provincial government service.
Maybe somebody who is still working would know.

I still pay a very small monthly premium to my former employer and I
their insurer pays the costs for dental visits including crowns, bridges
etc., as well as prescription drugs. I can send in a claim and get back
money spent on specs, orthotics and orthopaedic shoes to name but a few.
All in all, I consider myself extremely lucky:)

Helen Ramsay

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Feb 10, 2004, 11:56:30 PM2/10/04
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"Rick" <notgi...@alltel.net> wrote

> Well, we want to hear from you EVERY day, please, or I'm gonna be
worried
> about you!

Thanks Rick! I'm going to buy a helmet just in case:)

ZsaZsa

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"Helen Ramsay" <r...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "T N Nurse" <tnnu...@hotmail.com> wrote
>
> > Oh - you take care of yourself.
>
> Will do. Thanks. If I require the services of a nurse when I'm home in
> June, can I count on you? :)
>
> > > You know, we hear complaints about our health care but from the time
> > > the Telehealth Ontario nurse hung up an ambulance was at the door in
> > > about 2 minutes! I kidded them that I wouldn't be able to write a
> > > Letter To The Editor complaining about poor service:) Immediately
> upon
> > > arrival at the hospital my symptoms were recorded by a nurse, blood
> > > pressure was taken and orders were given for blood work, blood sugar
> > > and an ECG/EKG. I also have an appointment with a neurologist
> > > tomorrow! How's that for sevice?
> >
> > A *lot* better than the NHS. Is this free healthcare?
>
> http://www.health.gov.on.ca/english/public/program/ohip/ohip_mn.html
>
> I know we used to have premiums deducted from our wages years ago, but
> the cost was later shifted to employers. I don't think that's the case
> any longer because it was a hardship for small businesses. I'm certainly
> not paying anything. I think it's now a provincial government service.
> Maybe somebody who is still working would know.

Employers Health Tax, business with a payroll under 300k don't have to pay
into it, & the Fair Share Health Care Levy paid by high income individuals.


Helen Ramsay

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Feb 10, 2004, 11:59:13 PM2/10/04
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"MacRobert" <Ah_Et_...@nd.hewizguid!> wrote
> "Helen Ramsay" <r...@hotmail.com> wrote

> >"MacRobert" <Ah_Et_...@nd.hewizguid!> wrote
> >
> >> I don't suppose you would like a box of Jello sent to
> >> "India Rubber Ramsay" every Feb 07 from now on?
> >
> >Make that the 8th and the Jello should be green please!

> I would have thought red, black and blue...

Nah. More like navy, yellow, green and purple. Yeuch!

> >> Oh, yeah, almost forgot. Is the counterop all right...?
> >
> >It's fine. Thank goodness for that!
>
> Oh, good. Tradesmen can be *such* a bother...

The folks who did my kitchen were a real pleasure to do business with:)

> BTW, stop doing that.

I'll try:)

Helen Ramsay

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Feb 11, 2004, 12:05:13 AM2/11/04
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"MacHamish" <rus...@concentric.net> wrote
> "Helen Ramsay" <r...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> >The professor at Mac is sure it was irritation of the vagus nerve and
> >was probably a one shot deal:)
>

> Good news!!

I'll say! I have to admit that it *was* pretty scary:)

> >However, since my Father died from a heart attack at 60 and my Mother
> >had a heart attack at 62, to be on the safe side, he's sending me to
the
> >nuclear medicine department for a Persantine Stress Test next
Tuesday. I
> >may well glow in the dark after that:)
> >
> > http://www.vmmc.org/dbCardiology/sec74454.htm
>

> Well, that's no big deal, hen. It can't possibly outshine your
natural
> glow.

Thanks:) Have you been taking lessons from that silver-tongued Irishman?
If I end up with a distinct aura I'll send a photie.

ZsaZsa

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"Helen Ramsay" <r...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Their med school program is unique as far as I know. They have a different
set of admission criteria. You didn't used to have to write the MCAT, ( Iam
not sure if this is still true). Med School in Canada is 4 years, that
being 3 years in the classroom, and a year of clinical clerkship in the
hospital, following the normal academic year of a uni, ie Sept -April.. At
Mac it is more of an apprentice ship model, with students tagging along with
doctors and seeing patients almost from day one. The school year is 10
months long. It is THE place to go to have a baby, if you don't want to
stay at home.


ejaycee

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Feb 11, 2004, 7:17:11 AM2/11/04
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"Helen Ramsay" <r...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Helen Ramsay" <r...@hotmail.com> wrote
>
> > I also have an appointment with a neurologist tomorrow!
> > How's that for sevice?
>
> The professor at Mac is sure it was irritation of the vagus nerve
and
> was probably a one shot deal:)
>
That's interesting Helen - I have a damaged vagus nerve
but have never passed out from it.

Ejaycee

Ejaycee>
>

Helen Ramsay

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Feb 11, 2004, 8:51:00 AM2/11/04
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"ejaycee" <mise_m...@hotmail.com.au> wrote
> "Helen Ramsay" <r...@hotmail.com> wrote

> > "Helen Ramsay" <r...@hotmail.com> wrote
> >
> > > I also have an appointment with a neurologist tomorrow!
> > > How's that for sevice?
> >
> > The professor at Mac is sure it was irritation of the
> > vagus nerve and was probably a one shot deal:)
> >
> That's interesting Helen - I have a damaged vagus nerve
> but have never passed out from it.

Well now! There's an interesting question for the anaesthesiologist who
will be giving me a nerve block in my ankle on Thursday ejay! Perhaps,
as in your case, it depends on where the damage occurs.

Séimí mac Liam

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rus...@concentric.net (MacHamish) wrote in
news:88dk20t9u1rs0160j...@4ax.com:

> On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 00:05:13 -0500, "Helen Ramsay" <r...@hotmail.com>
wrote:


>
>>> >However, since my Father died from a heart attack at 60 and my
Mother
>>> >had a heart attack at 62, to be on the safe side, he's sending me to
>>the
>>> >nuclear medicine department for a Persantine Stress Test next
>>Tuesday. I
>>> >may well glow in the dark after that:)
>>> >
>>> > http://www.vmmc.org/dbCardiology/sec74454.htm
>>>
>>> Well, that's no big deal, hen. It can't possibly outshine your
>>natural
>>> glow.
>>
>>Thanks:) Have you been taking lessons from that silver-tongued
Irishman?
>

> He's my hero. I've learned so much from him. :-)


>
>>If I end up with a distinct aura I'll send a photie.
>

> Think of the money you'll save on electricity!!
>
>
> MacHamish Mór
>
>

I was thinking of inviting her to be my house guest, just to save on the
light bill, like.( Live Long and Prosper, Helen.)

--
Saint Séimí mac Liam
Carriagemaker to the court of Queen Maeve
Prophet of The Great Tagger
Canonized December '99

Duke of URL

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Feb 11, 2004, 9:59:38 AM2/11/04
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In news:c0cclf$14jttd$1...@ID-207901.news.uni-berlin.de,
Helen Ramsay <r...@hotmail.com> radiated into the WorldWideWait:

> "Rick" <notgi...@alltel.net> wrote
>
>> Well, we want to hear from you EVERY day, please, or I'm gonna
>> be worried about you!
>
> Thanks Rick! I'm going to buy a helmet just in case:)

Helen, I just now saw that you had a fall. I've been ignoring this
thread about vomit completely, but happened to click one.
I'm glad you're doing okay. Pinched vagus nerve, huh? Oh, yes, that's
a f*u*n one, innit?
Very pleased that you didn't suffer further grievous damage.


Josiah Jenkins

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Feb 11, 2004, 12:05:39 PM2/11/04
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On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 08:59:38 -0600, I read these words from "Duke of
URL" <macbenahATkdsiDOTnet> :

>In news:c0cclf$14jttd$1...@ID-207901.news.uni-berlin.de,
>Helen Ramsay <r...@hotmail.com> radiated into the WorldWideWait:
>> "Rick" <notgi...@alltel.net> wrote
>>
>>> Well, we want to hear from you EVERY day, please, or I'm gonna
>>> be worried about you!
>>
>> Thanks Rick! I'm going to buy a helmet just in case:)
>
>Helen, I just now saw that you had a fall. I've been ignoring this
>thread about vomit completely, but happened to click one.
>I'm glad you're doing okay. Pinched vagus nerve, huh? Oh, yes, that's
>a f*u*n one, innit?

For anyone, like myself, who hadn't a clue what the "vagus nerve" is :

"The vagus nerve is the longest of the cranial nerve. Its name is
derived from Latin meaning "wandering". True to its name the vagus
nerve wanders from the brain stem through organs in the neck, thorax
and abdomen. The nerve exits the brain stem through rootlets in the
medulla that are caudal to the rootlets for the ninth cranial nerve.
The rootlets form the tenth cranial nerve and exit the cranium via the
jugular foramen. Similar to the ninth cranial nerve there are two
sensory ganglia associated with the vagus nerve. They are the superior
and inferior vagal ganglia. The branchial motor component of the vagus
nerve originates in the medulla in the nucleus ambiguus. The nucleus
ambiguus contributes to the vagus nerve as three major branches which
leave the nerve distal to the jugular foramen. The pharyngeal branch
travels between the internal and external carotid arteries and enters
the pharynx at the upper border of the middle constrictor muscle. It
supplies the all the muscles of the pharynx and soft palate except the
stylopharyngeas and tensor palati. These include the three constrictor
muscles, levator veli palatini, salpingopharyngeus, palatopharyngeus
and palatoglossal muscles. The superior laryngeal nerve branches
distal to the pharyngeal branch and descends lateral to the pharynx.
It divides into an internal and external branch. The internal branch
is purely sensory and will be discussed later. The external branch
travel to the cricothyroid muscle which it supplies. The third branch
is the recurrent branch of the vagus nerve and it travels a different
path on the left and right sides of the body. On the right side the
recurrent branch leave the vagus anterior to the subclavian artery and
wraps back around the artery to ascend posterior to it. The right
recurrent branch ascends to a groove between the trachea and
esophagus. The left recurrent branch leaves the vagus nerve on the
aortic arch and loops posterior to the arch to ascend through the
superior mediastinum. The left recurrent branch ascends along a groove
between the esophagus and trachea. Both recurrent branches enter the
larynx below the inferior constrictor and supply intrinsic muscles of
larynx excluding the cricothyroid. The visceromotor or parasympathetic
component of the vagus nerve originates from the dorsal motor nucleus
of the vagus in the dorsal medulla. These cells give rise to axons
that travel in the vagus nerve. The visceromotor part of the vagus
innervates ganglionic neurons which are located in or adjacent to each
target organ. The target organs in the head-neck include glands of the
pharynx and larynx (via the pharyngeal and internal branches). In the
thorax branches go to the lungs for bronchoconstriction, the esophagus
for peristalsis and the heart for slowing of heart rate."

There's more but I don't understand the rest !!!!!!

-- The Despicable Stewart
-- Perfidious Alban
-- http://www.ian-stewart.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk

Duke of URL

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Feb 11, 2004, 1:06:15 PM2/11/04
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In news:d0ok20hcsavne8me5...@4ax.com,
Josiah Jenkins <scs-in...@pap.com> radiated into the WorldWideWait:

It boils down to, as Helen& I found out the hard way, that you do NOT
want ANYTHING to EVER mess with it!


Bryn Fraser

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Feb 11, 2004, 2:07:29 PM2/11/04
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In message <c0c5tn$152uhd$1...@ID-207901.news.uni-berlin.de>, Helen Ramsay
<r...@hotmail.com> writes

>"S Viemeister" <firstname...@which.net> wrote
>
>> I, too, assumed you were joking - take care of yourself!
>> And let us know how you're doing.
>
>Thanks Sheila. I've given the neurologist's diagnosis upthread.

I've not been reading this thread...
I sorry to hear you had a fall...
And there I was warning you about the ice...
You take care now...

Bryn
>

Helen Ramsay

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Feb 11, 2004, 3:11:17 PM2/11/04
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"Bryn Fraser" <br...@finhall.demon.co.uk> wrote

>Helen Ramsay <r...@hotmail.com> writes
> >"S Viemeister" <firstname...@which.net> wrote
> >
> >> I, too, assumed you were joking - take care of yourself!
> >> And let us know how you're doing.
> >
> >Thanks Sheila. I've given the neurologist's diagnosis upthread.
>
> I've not been reading this thread...
> I sorry to hear you had a fall...
> And there I was warning you about the ice...
> You take care now...

Thanks. I've been very careful of the ice. I passed out in my kitchen
and made a helluva a dint in the floor! :)

Rick

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Feb 11, 2004, 3:51:32 PM2/11/04
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Josiah Jenkins wrote:

> There's more but I don't understand the rest !!!!!!
>
> -- The Despicable Stewart
> -- Perfidious Alban
> -- http://www.ian-stewart.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk

Basically speaking, the vagus nerve runs up both sides of the neck
adjacent to the carotid arteries.. Vagul stimulation can cause the heart
to 'slow' down. Stimulation can occur from being 'pinched', ( an example
might be the "Choker Hold" used by wrestlers and the Police) by manual
manipulation (rubbing along both sides of the neck simultaneously- a
medical technigue used to reverse rapid heartbeat ) or even by straining
to have a bowel movement...which is sometimes the cause for finding folks
passed out in bathrooms.
Sorry. I used to be a Flight Medic.

Bryn Fraser

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Feb 11, 2004, 4:43:09 PM2/11/04
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In message <c0e28m$16dcgr$1...@ID-207901.news.uni-berlin.de>, Helen Ramsay
<r...@hotmail.com> writes

Its always the way... Floors jumping up you when you lest expect......

Bryn

--
Brian Fraser Lovett-White

http://www.finhall.demon.co.uk

Madra Dubh

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"Helen Ramsay" <r...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Have I not warned you about the mulled ale?
(I trust you've been to the doctor about this)


Duke of URL

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Feb 11, 2004, 6:21:22 PM2/11/04
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In news:402A95D3...@alltel.net,
Rick <notgi...@alltel.net> radiated into the WorldWideWait:

> Josiah Jenkins wrote:
>
>> There's more but I don't understand the rest !!!!!!

> Basically speaking, the vagus nerve runs up both sides of the neck


> adjacent to the carotid arteries.. Vagul stimulation can cause the
> heart to 'slow' down. Stimulation can occur from being 'pinched', (
> an example might be the "Choker Hold" used by wrestlers and the
> Police) by manual manipulation (rubbing along both sides of the
> neck simultaneously- a medical technigue used to reverse rapid
> heartbeat ) or even by straining to have a bowel movement...which
> is sometimes the cause for finding folks passed out in bathrooms.
> Sorry. I used to be a Flight Medic.

Spent a lot of time in airplane restrooms, did you?


Rick

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Feb 11, 2004, 7:08:18 PM2/11/04
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Duke of URL wrote:

Most of my patients had catheters. Not much room for a restroom in a
helicopter...

MacRobert

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Feb 11, 2004, 8:41:37 PM2/11/04
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On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 23:28:30 -0500, "Helen Ramsay" <r...@hotmail.com>

paused to reflect but wrote anyway:

>"ejaycee" <mise_m...@hotmail.com.au> wrote


>
>> Good job I know you don't drink
>
>They asked me that a the medical centre and I told them I have an
>unopened bottle of Scotch that I brought through duty free years ago.
>

<gggnnnnrrrrgghhh...>

>> Take care - we don't want you missing in action with May looming on
>> the horizon
>
>Tell me about it! I'm in good hands though:)

Och aye, no thi whusky, but!

MacRobert

ejaycee

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"MacRobert" <Ah_Et_...@nd.hewizguid!> wrote in message
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Ummm..... if you haveno use for it you could always bring it to
Stirling .

Ejaycee


ejaycee

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"Helen Ramsay" <r...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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It certainly does

Ejaycee>


ejaycee

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"Rick" <notgi...@alltel.net> wrote in message
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> Duke of URL wrote:
>
> > In news:402A95D3...@alltel.net,
> > Rick <notgi...@alltel.net> radiated into the WorldWideWait:
> > > Josiah Jenkins wrote:
> > >
> > >> There's more but I don't understand the rest !!!!!!
> >
> > > Basically speaking, the vagus nerve runs up both sides of the
neck
> > > adjacent to the carotid arteries.. Vagul stimulation can cause
the
> > > heart to 'slow' down. Stimulation can occur from being
'pinched', (
> > > an example might be the "Choker Hold" used by wrestlers and the
> > > Police) by manual manipulation (rubbing along both sides of the
> > > neck simultaneously- a medical technigue used to reverse rapid
> > > heartbeat ) or even by straining to have a bowel
movement...which
> > > is sometimes the cause for finding folks passed out in
bathrooms.
> > > Sorry. I used to be a Flight Medic.
> >
I have to tell you if the peristalsis is affected there would be no
straiing involved..............


Ejaycee
>


ejaycee

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"ejaycee" <mise_m...@hotmail.com.au> wrote in message
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But it obviously makes me repeat myself

Ejaycee >


Helen Ramsay

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Feb 12, 2004, 8:34:06 AM2/12/04
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"Alan Hardie" <axha...@clara.co.uk> wrote
> "Helen Ramsay" <r...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >"Alan Hardie" <axha...@clara.co.uk> wrote
> >>
> >> And what, pray - happened to the goose? And what did
> >> you do with the egg?
> >
> >I roasted the goose and scrambled the egg! It was a fine meal
indeed:)
>
> On the mend then! Hopefully.

Me! Yes! The goose ... well what can I say :)

Actually, it seems there's nothing to mend. It was a flukey thing.

Helen Ramsay

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Feb 12, 2004, 10:54:52 AM2/12/04
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"ejaycee" <mise_m...@hotmail.com.au> wrote
> "MacRobert" <Ah_Et_...@nd.hewizguid!> wrote
> > "Helen Ramsay" <r...@hotmail.com> wrote

> > >"ejaycee" <mise_m...@hotmail.com.au> wrote
> > >
> > >> Good job I know you don't drink
> > >
> > >They asked me that a the medical centre and I told
> > >them I have an unopened bottle of Scotch that I
> > > brought through duty free years ago.
> >
> > <gggnnnnrrrrgghhh...>
> >
> > >> Take care - we don't want you missing in
> > >> action with May looming on the horizon
> > >
> > >Tell me about it! I'm in good hands though:)
> >
> Ummm..... if you haveno use for it you could always
> bring it to Stirling .

Whit? I could land in jail for re-importing liquor bought at a Scottish
duty free shop! Too bad hen. Nice try:)

Murchadh

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Feb 12, 2004, 12:43:29 PM2/12/04
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On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 10:54:52 -0500, "Helen Ramsay" <r...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>"ejaycee" <mise_m...@hotmail.com.au> wrote
> > "MacRobert" <Ah_Et_...@nd.hewizguid!> wrote
> > > "Helen Ramsay" <r...@hotmail.com> wrote
>> > >"ejaycee" <mise_m...@hotmail.com.au> wrote
>> > >
>> > >> Good job I know you don't drink
>> > >
>> > >They asked me that a the medical centre and I told
>> > >them I have an unopened bottle of Scotch that I
>> > > brought through duty free years ago.
>> >
>> > <gggnnnnrrrrgghhh...>
>> >
>> > >> Take care - we don't want you missing in
>> > >> action with May looming on the horizon
>> > >
>> > >Tell me about it! I'm in good hands though:)
>> >
>> Ummm..... if you haveno use for it you could always
>> bring it to Stirling .
>
>Whit? I could land in jail for re-importing liquor bought at a Scottish
>duty free shop! Too bad hen. Nice try:)
>--
>Cheers, Helen
>hramsay at cogeco dot ca

Well, at least your stay would be free and there's always visiting
hour for seeing your friends and family!

Murchadh.

Helen Ramsay

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Feb 12, 2004, 7:48:26 PM2/12/04
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"Murchadh" <murc...@shaw.ca> wrote

> "Helen Ramsay" <r...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >"ejaycee" <mise_m...@hotmail.com.au> wrote
> > > "MacRobert" <Ah_Et_...@nd.hewizguid!> wrote
> > > > "Helen Ramsay" <r...@hotmail.com> wrote
> >> > >"ejaycee" <mise_m...@hotmail.com.au> wrote
> >> > >
> >> > >> Good job I know you don't drink
> >> > >
> >> > >They asked me that at the medical centre and I told

> >> > >them I have an unopened bottle of Scotch that I
> >> > > brought through duty free years ago.
> >> >
> >> > <gggnnnnrrrrgghhh....

> >> Ummm..... if you have no use for it you could always


> >> bring it to Stirling .
> >
> >Whit? I could land in jail for re-importing liquor bought at a
Scottish
> >duty free shop! Too bad hen. Nice try:)
>

> Well, at least your stay would be free and there's always visiting
> hour for seeing your friends and family!

Och away wi yi min! I can stay free (as well as stay free) with my
Mother:)

Murchadh

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On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 19:48:26 -0500, "Helen Ramsay" <r...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>"Murchadh" <murc...@shaw.ca> wrote

We lead different life styles. I always think of deportation as a way
to get home at no cost...


Murchadh.

JackieMulheron

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Feb 13, 2004, 5:11:37 PM2/13/04
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In article <402c4cb4.14067678@news>, murc...@shaw.ca (Murchadh) writes:

>>Och away wi yi min! I can stay free (as well as stay free) with my
>>Mother:)
>>--
>>Cheers, Helen
>>hramsay at cogeco dot ca
>
>We lead different life styles. I always think of deportation as a way
>to get home at no cost...

But you hate Scotland and are so glad that you don't live amongst us lesser
UnterScotch.

Glenallan

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"JackieMulheron" <jackiem...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Mulheron, I salute your indefatigability.! ;-)

Glenallan
----------


Bryn Fraser

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Feb 13, 2004, 6:45:28 PM2/13/04
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In message <402d51de$0$21299$cc9e...@news.dial.pipex.com>, Glenallan
<robert...@dsl.pipex.remove.com> writes

It should never be misunderestimated...

JackieMulheron

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Feb 14, 2004, 9:40:48 AM2/14/04
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In article <402d51de$0$21299$cc9e...@news.dial.pipex.com>, "Glenallan"
<robert...@dsl.pipex.remove.com> writes:

What's that? A skin complaint?

Helen Ramsay

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Feb 15, 2004, 2:22:51 PM2/15/04
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"Rick" <notgi...@alltel.net> wrote

> Josiah Jenkins wrote:
>
> > There's more but I don't understand the rest !!!!!!
>
> Basically speaking, the vagus nerve runs up both sides of the neck
> adjacent to the carotid arteries.. Vagul stimulation can cause the
heart
> to 'slow' down. Stimulation can occur from being 'pinched', ( an
example
> might be the "Choker Hold" used by wrestlers and the Police) by
manual
> manipulation (rubbing along both sides of the neck simultaneously- a
> medical technigue used to reverse rapid heartbeat ) or even by
straining
> to have a bowel movement...which is sometimes the cause for finding
folks
> passed out in bathrooms.
> Sorry. I used to be a Flight Medic.

Don't be sorry:) I'm sure the knowledge comes in handy.

The neurologist put a name on it for me ... vasovagal or
neurocardiogenic syncope.

"Vasovagal syncope (also called the simple fainting spell) occurs due to
a reflex (often triggered by pain, fright, an upset stomach, or many
other things) causing the blood vessels in the legs to dilate."

It seems mine was brought on by an upset stomach!

For anybody who might be interested about.com had a pretty simple
description of it here ...
http://heartdisease.about.com/cs/arrhythmias/a/Syncope2.htm

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