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The Highlander

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Jul 3, 2009, 8:13:26 PM7/3/09
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I'm looking for soc.culture.scottish.

La N

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Jul 3, 2009, 8:28:02 PM7/3/09
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The Highlander wrote:
> I'm looking for soc.culture.scottish.

http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,1908411,00.html


Friday, Jul. 03, 2009
The Incredible Shrinking Sheep of Scotland
By Bryan Walsh

News alert: the sheep of Scotland are shrinking! On Soay Island, off the
western coast of Scotland, wild sheep are apparently defying the theory of
evolution and progressively getting smaller.

Why? In short, because of climate change. Generally, the sheep's life cycle
goes like this: they fatten up on grass during the fertile, sunny summer;
then the harsh winter comes, the grass disappears and the smallest,
scrawniest sheep die off, while their bigger cousins survive. That's how you
end up with big sheep, which - according to Darwin's laws of natural
selection - will pass on their big genes to the next generation. (See
pictures of sheep and other animals.)

But over the past 25 years, the average Soay Island wild sheep has decreased
in size, according to a report in the July 2 issue of Science by a team of
researchers led by Tim Coulson of Imperial College London. Thanks largely to
global warming, the winters on Soay Island are becoming shorter and milder.
That makes food more abundant and allows some of the smaller, more
vulnerable and younger sheep to survive. Then they go on to have offspring
that tend to be small themselves - and have a better chance of survival
because of the increasingly mild winters. "The environmental and
evolutionary processes are intertwined," says Coulson "There's still natural
selection, but it's not leaving as big a signature as it used to. There's
still a disadvantage to being small, but not as much." (Read "The Fine Art
of Sheep-Shearing [EM] for Fun and Profit")

And while being big is still an advantage - size offers a better survival
cushion if food proves hard to find - there are other factors that limit how
easily that trait is passed down. Coulson and his colleagues identified what
they call the "young mum" factor. Sheep, unlike many other mammals, tend to
have offspring quite early in life - mothers can have lambs at one-year-old,
before they're fully grown. Since the size of the lambs is limited by the
size of the mothers, younger mothers have smaller babies. Thanks to the
milder winters, more sheep are able to survive that difficult first year and
have lambs, which means there are more small lambs being born, bringing down
the flock's average size - and causing the shrinking of the Soay sheep.
"Those lambs had been born with a slight disadvantage, but that's been
erased as the climate has warmed," says Coulson. (Read "Why Some Animals
(and People) Are Gay")

The Science paper explores a fascinating topic: how species will adjust to a
warmer world. The environment has always driven natural selection -
successful species adapt to their surroundings, or they die - and while the
environment has also always changed, never has it done so as quickly as it
does today, thanks to the billions of tons of CO2 we're shoveling into the
atmosphere. (Watch TIME's video "How to Shear a Sheep")

As the Soay sheep show, animals can respond to climate change, but not in
the ways we're accustomed to. "They can do so in two ways," says Coulson.
"They can do so through the evolutionary process, which is a little slower,
but they can also adapt by changing their growth rate in response to their
environment." Scientists like Coulson can then separate the effects of
evolution from the effects of the environment.

That doesn't mean that animals will adapt and thrive in a warmer world. Far
from it - by some estimates, rapid climate change could drive as many as
one-third of the species on the planet out of existence by mid-century.
Though warmer winters in blustery Scotland might sound nice - especially if
you're a sheep on the small side - the changes due to global warming are
likely to be far from positive in most parts of the world. Evolution will
help species adapt, but there's a term for what happens when the pace of
evolution can't match the pace of climate change: extinction.

See pictures of sheep on LIFE.com.

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HardySpicer

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Jul 3, 2009, 9:35:17 PM7/3/09
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On Jul 3, 5:41 pm, Fred J. McCall <fjmcc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The Highlander <mich...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> :
> :I'm looking for soc.culture.scottish.
> :
>
> Good luck.  I think you helped wreck it with your incessant attacks on
> people you didn't like.
>
> --
> You are
> What you do
> When it counts.

Yeh - fuck off and get your own group. alt.teuchters

Peter Jason

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Jul 4, 2009, 1:32:20 AM7/4/09
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"The Highlander" <mic...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> I'm looking for soc.culture.scottish.

It's that notorious Troll-of-Ages PPiper whats wrecked it.


Douglas Clark

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Jul 4, 2009, 3:42:34 AM7/4/09
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The Highlander wrote:
> I'm looking for soc.culture.scottish.

I would agree that this group is not what it used to be. This is
happening to many newsgroups as ISPs drop them and people migrate to
Facebook etc. Very sad. Not much worth reading around here nowadays.


--
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http://usergroup.plus.net .......... http://www.dgdclynx.plus.com

conwaycaine

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Jul 4, 2009, 9:46:20 AM7/4/09
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"The Highlander" <mic...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> I'm looking for soc.culture.scottish.

Not here.
They all moved over to alt.feckistani
(Good to see you posting again)


conwaycaine

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Jul 4, 2009, 9:49:58 AM7/4/09
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"Peter Jason" <p...@jostle.com> wrote in message
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Hear! Hear!
There's a wit about The Highlander's posting.
pee pee only spews filth.


The Highlander

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Jul 4, 2009, 10:08:52 AM7/4/09
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On Jul 3, 5:41 pm, Fred J. McCall <fjmcc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The Highlander <mich...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> :
> :I'm looking for soc.culture.scottish.
> :
>
> Good luck.  I think you helped wreck it with your incessant attacks on
> people you didn't like.
>
> --
> You are
> What you do
> When it counts.

I disagree. I think it has been wrecked by trolls like you who have
tried to take the group over and make it a forum for your personal
problems. As the PP has pointed out more than once, you know almost
nothing about Scotland but along with others have made the group into
an American playground. A previous page is concerned almost entirely
with American chat that is completely alien to Scots and concerns
people who are essentially unknown to most Scots.
You have already been kicked out of other groups because your lack of
knowledge about their content, and as someone who has been a member of
this group pretty much since its inception, I strongly resent your
pathetic attempts to speak for the group as though you are a welcome
and permanent resident. I for one am sick of reading your pathetic
snide remarks and attacks on others who know little or nothing about
you and who like me are fed up with reading your litany of quotes
which you apparently use as an attempt to prove that you have had some
sort of formal education.
A far as Scottish content goes, your contribution to this group has
been one of complete and total ignorance, as witness the constant
corrections made by Scots posting here who have to keep explaining to
you that much of what you have gleaned from various popular authors
which you have attempted to pass off as Scottish history is pure
rubbish.

You are clearly unaware that most Scots were denied an education about
Scotland and its history, thanks to an English initiative which
ensured that English history was what they were taught at school in an
attempt to make Scotland an integrated part of the United Kingdom.
Most of those who post facts here were self-taught as adults; part and
parcel of our attempts to rescue our nation's history by presenting
the real face of Scotland to those who want to know what their country
did and how they struggled through centuries of trying to keep England
at bay.
People like you who pervert the reality of what Scotland was and is
are as unwelcome here as the plague.Your contribution here is
completely valueless and only serves to distort the story of our
nation. It has not been helped by some of the more ignorant trolls
such as Heid the Baa, the foul-mouthed, illiterate village idiot who
crashed in here some time ago and who, like you, has used this forum
to demonstrate that ignorance and stupidity are not confined to those
who were allegedly born and raised in Scotland.

There is much here of interest for those whose parents and ancestors
left Scotland to live overseas because of lack of opportunity and the
need to make a living. This is an opportunity that many have seized
and as a result some are as knowledgeable as any native Scot. You seem
to have rejected that opportunity in exchange for imposing your
bizarre problems on the other members of this group.

You might be interested to know that when this group was flourishing
some years ago, Americans were barred from posting here. I was one of
those who fought for the right of those of Scots descent to
participate in this group, pointing out that those from overseas were
no less Scots than the local posters, regardless of their current
nationality. Most were hungry to learn something about the land of
their ancestors and there was a time that soc.culture scottish was
widely acknowledged as the most interesting and vibrant group on the
internet. We have corresponded with people from South America, Turkey,
Kazakhstan, Argentina, Moscow; people whose ancestors were Scots and
who wanted to learn more about the land of their fathers.
If you need to be provocative and are determined to spread the story
of Fred J. McCall and all his wonders, try
soc.culture.irish, where you will probably be run out of town within
minutes of your first post.

I come from a family whose guiding principle is "Never apologise;
never explain" and I'm not particularly thrilled at finding myself
explaining. I do so simply to remind all who decided that they knew
best about the emotions I was feeling that there are often things
hiding behind the scenes and that jumping to conclusions has its
dangers.

I also want to refute any idea that left here in a snit after
remarking that I had some problems to resolve.. I have a child in
hospital who is not expected to outlive me and I have been extremely
depressed for some time as I have already buried my wife and have no
appetite for burying one of my beloved children. If this was not
enough, my younger daughter is showing signs of the same problem. On
top of these problems my business also died, thanks to the recession
and I now live on a pension, saving what I can whenever I can. Quite
bluntly, if it wasn't for the food bank, things could be a lot
tougher.
It was for these reasons that I ignored the remarks about spending
money on new browsers, as the money is needed elsewhere. I make no
excuse for all this as none of it was my fault, but it has affected me
profoundly, both financially and emotionally. That is why I left for a
while, because I just don't need to have shit thrown in my face by
those who have no idea what is actually driving my emotions and
feelings.
.


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Deirdre Sholto Douglas

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Jul 4, 2009, 12:47:11 PM7/4/09
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The Highlander wrote:

> You might be interested to know that when this group was flourishing
> some years ago, Americans were barred from posting here.

Bullshit.

SCS has never been moderated and you can't "bar"
anyone from posting on an unmoderated USENET
newsfroup. If you're going to embellish, at
least make it semi-credible, hm?


Deirdre


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folk don't have any film.

sandy58

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Jul 4, 2009, 5:44:42 PM7/4/09
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You two-faced lying bastard, Plastic Jock. What about all the monied
cronies/family etc that you loved to boast about? Your "uncle" was a
gurka whatever...according to you, NO-One you ever met was a nobody!
You great steaming heap of dog-shit. Just because some people here
questioned your lies the wee shit-for-brainz got the hump. Pissed off
to regroup. Has now returned with some trumped-up sob story all tears,
sniffles & sobs.....hoping to squeeze s modicum of sympathy here!!!
Why don't you just spend a few bob on a back-street
"Plastic" man for a new face and/or skin colour & fuck off where no-
one knows (or WANTS to know) you?


>That is why I left for a
:while, because I just don't need to have shit thrown in my face by
:those who have no idea what is actually driving my emotions and
:feelings. >

I would never throw shit in your face, Plastic Man. Not when there are
bricks handy anyway. What a fuckin' asshole. Have a good trip.

Happy

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Jul 4, 2009, 6:49:32 PM7/4/09
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"The Highlander" <mic...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:68990961-2760-44e4...@12g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
> I'm looking for soc.culture.scottish.

My impression is that the group just wants to struggle along wihout a
leader.
Maybe you should try later?

The Phantom Piper

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Jul 4, 2009, 11:32:57 PM7/4/09
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On Jul 4, 7:08 am, The Highlander <mich...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> You are clearly unaware that most Scots were denied an education
> about Scotland and its history, thanks to an English initiative which
> ensured that English history was what they were taught at school in
> an attempt to make Scotland an integrated part of the United Kingdom.

Oh my, you're certain to catch it for having brought that up!

> Most of those who post facts here were self-taught as adults; part and
> parcel of our attempts to rescue our nation's history by presenting the
> real face of Scotland to those who want to know what their country did
> and how they struggled through centuries of trying to keep England at
> bay.

I can already sense the Borders rising - well, what passes
for them, these days - to quell your insurrectionist heresy!

> I also want to refute any idea that left here in a snit after remarking

> that I had some problems to resolve. I have a child in hospital

(!) I'm sorry to hear she's in hospital! You had posted that
she was ill, but I never suspected it was that bad.

> who is not expected to outlive me and I have been extremely
> depressed for some time as I have already buried my wife and
> have no appetite for burying one of my beloved children. If this
> was not enough, my younger daughter is showing signs of the
> same problem.

Wait - was it your younger daughter you had posted about?
Dear God, Micheil, I had no idea!

> That is why I left for a while, because I just don't need to
> have shit thrown in my face by those who have no idea
> what is actually driving my emotions and feelings.

Well you are always welcome here so far as I am concerned;
God knows we won't agree on everything - but then so what?
And as for the recent brouhaha, could anything have *been*
more Trivial in terms of the initial point of contention? It's easy
to see, now, how you might have reacted as you did if you were
so stressed-out by Real World Concerns! I'm quite certain that
SheilaV doesn't hold any grudges either; it was a _silly_ wee
thing - as I tried to point out - and shouldn't be nursed.

I know you'll likely catch Hell from certain quarters for what you've
posted above, but remember that there are plenty of people here
who both appreciate your Cultural posts *and* who can understand
the effects of a tough Personal situation. On behalf of those of us
who fall into that rather large group, I hope you'll find the time to
at
least keep us updated on the health of your daughters, whom I know
to be the very Pride of your life.


Genuinely,

The Phantom Piper

The Phantom Piper

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Jul 4, 2009, 11:37:01 PM7/4/09
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On Jul 4, 7:57 am, the Scumbag Fred J. McCall <fjmcc...@gmail.com>
spewed forth:

>
> You are
> What you do
> When it counts.

In that case, you must be some Shite, stuck to a Heel.


Scraping You Off,

The Phantom Piper

The Phantom Piper

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Jul 4, 2009, 11:41:00 PM7/4/09
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On Jul 4, 9:47 am, "Deirdre Sholto Douglas"

<finch.enter...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> ________________
> Everyone has a photographic memory, but some
> folk don't have any film.

You *ARE* Fred J. McCall and I claim my £5!


Solving The Mystery,

The Phantom Piper

La N

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Jul 4, 2009, 11:44:39 PM7/4/09
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Wow. I'm sorry I didn't read all of Mike's post else I would have seen this
bit about his daughters. That sucks. I'm sorry to hear of that.
Unfortunately, Usenet is not a great venue in which to garner
sympathy/empathy, and I hope that Mike is able to receive the support he
needs from good friends through this trying time.

- nilita


The Phantom Piper

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Jul 4, 2009, 11:51:07 PM7/4/09
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On Jul 4, 2:44 pm, sandy58 <alecki...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> You great steaming heap of dog-shit.

So, he kicked your sorry arse from here to Hell and back
some time ago, I'm guessing...?

> Has now returned with some trumped-up sob story all tears, sniffles
> & sobs.....hoping to squeeze s modicum of sympathy here!!!

Actually, you sick puke - "sandy58" or "aleckie68" or
whatever - he's written about his wife for over 15 years,
and about the illness of (I thought one) daughter previously
this year, and for you to make light of that, regardless of
how deep your grudge goes, makes *you* the despicable
scumlicker here, not him.

It must be nice to know that you have the likes of Braindead
Fred McCall and Heid Thi Ba' as Soulmates. `Sucks to be you...


Re-Scraping My Boots Clean,

The Phantom Piper

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La N

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Jul 5, 2009, 12:44:59 AM7/5/09
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Happy wrote:
>
> My impression is that the group just wants to struggle along wihout a
> leader.
> Maybe you should try later?

Haiku

Tear down the statues
the statutes, the FAQ
Usenet anarchy!

- nilita .... hmmm ... it's missing something ..... wondering if Cory can
figure it out .... after he wears off his hangover, that is ...


sandy58

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On Jul 5, 4:51 am, The Phantom Piper <ThePhantomPi...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Your guessing? You have too close a tie, in both grammar & wording, to
the Plastic fella to be a stranger here, Phantom Phukker. Slimy bastard
(s). Why come on whingeing about some offspring being sick? Here of
all places? The Plastic Jock never had much "upstairs" but now he has
lost the plot entirely, silly twat. All his bumptious nonsense about
how HE was related to heroes etc. He never ever MET a normal bloke,
according to HIM! They were all Phigments of his lurid imagination. I
reckon you went "off line" for a wee while to have your server changed
(takes a couple of weeks) & have come back as Shit-For-Brainz, Plastic
Jock's alter ego. You and he fall into line too snuggly, Phoolish
Phukker, to be casual buddies. Two peas outa THAT pod? Nah, stretching
coincidence TOO Phar, Phukheid. If he is Phishing phor sympathy around
these groups he's sorely mistaken. You worked that scam before,
remember? Two of "you" with the identical e-mail addy etc. replying to
each others silly shit in complimentary phashion. But YOU, phuckwit,
didn't have the nous to cammo your bodged job. Idiot to the end,
Auslander. Find some phoney Galic Group where you can chunter on in
what you claim to be the pure lingo. You are a sad sick summbitch to
play on a family sickness for cheapo sympathy, shit-for-brainz.

Lesley Robertson

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Jul 5, 2009, 4:34:01 AM7/5/09
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"Deirdre Sholto Douglas" <finch.e...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
message news:7b9fcqF...@mid.individual.net...

> The Highlander wrote:
>
>> You might be interested to know that when this group was
>> flourishing
>> some years ago, Americans were barred from posting here.
>
> Bullshit.
>
> SCS has never been moderated and you can't "bar"
> anyone from posting on an unmoderated USENET
> newsfroup. If you're going to embellish, at
> least make it semi-credible, hm?
>
I've been here since the start, and don't remember a bar on USians. I
doubt whether some of our much-missed members such as MacR would have
stood for it, or taken any notice, let alone current members, USian or
not. As you say, it can't be enforced, it's also against the "come all
ye" part of the consitution.
We were better, back then, at mocking the trouble makers rather than
getting upset by them - laughter makes them go away, indignation gives
them the attention they crave. Remember the Bridge Awards" where we
subjected trolling attempts to review and evaluation of whatever
idiocy they'd come up with? These days, some people seem to be going
out of their way to find an excuse to be offended.

Lesley Robertson


The Phantom Piper

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Jul 5, 2009, 4:47:00 AM7/5/09
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On Jul 5, 12:02 am, sandy58 <alecki...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> Your guessing?

Are you commenting on my Guessing (which,
the last time I looked, was not a Noun anyway),
or are you actually so illiterate that you don't
know the difference between "your" and "you're?"

> You have too close a tie, in both grammar & wording, to
> the Plastic fella to be a stranger here, Phantom Phukker.
> Slimy bastard(s).

If that were a meaningful measure, then _you'd_
just have to be Braindead Fred McCall! (Oh wait,
I take that back: he's smarter than you.)

Let's watch you prove it now, shall we?

> Why come on whingeing about some offspring being sick? Here of
> all places? The Plastic Jock never had much "upstairs" but now he has
> lost the plot entirely, silly twat. All his bumptious nonsense about
> how HE was related to heroes etc. He never ever MET a normal bloke,
> according to HIM! They were all Phigments of his lurid imagination. I
> reckon you went "off line" for a wee while to have your server changed
> (takes a couple of weeks) & have come back as Shit-For-Brainz, Plastic
> Jock's alter ego. You and he fall into line too snuggly, Phoolish Phukker,
> to be casual buddies. Two peas outa THAT pod? Nah, stretching
> coincidence TOO Phar, Phukheid. If he is Phishing phor sympathy around
> these groups he's sorely mistaken. You worked that scam before,
> remember? Two of "you" with the identical e-mail addy etc. replying to
> each others silly shit in complimentary phashion. But YOU, phuckwit,
> didn't have the nous to cammo your bodged job. Idiot to the end,
> Auslander. Find some phoney Galic Group where you can chunter on in
> what you claim to be the pure lingo. You are a sad sick summbitch to
> play on a family sickness for cheapo sympathy, shit-for-brainz.

Well, so in addition to apparently having hit a nerve
(no easy task with an unevolved creature having as
limited a nervous system as you do!), we get to see
you make an utter arse of yourself once and for all!

*/:~D

Yeah, that's right: Micheil and I *must* be the same
person, since we occasionally nearly come to blows
with each other, and have (always had) entirely
different ISPs (Google Newsgroups isn't a "server,"
you moron, and entirely _different_ e-mail addresses
(hint: mine's a dummy - just like you - whereas his is
an actual working address). You know, far smarter
Stupid People than you have made this assumption
in the past - I remember "Georgia" was one; she was
a remarkably idiotic and vicious Nasty Piece Of Work...
Perhaps you're *her* - ?

(But do go on; it's always amusing watching the complete
breakdown of an utter fool in such a public venue: it's what
I've been attempting to effect with Braindead Fred, after all.)


Laughing At You,

The Phantom Piper

Joe Makowiec

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Jul 5, 2009, 6:37:25 AM7/5/09
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On 05 Jul 2009 in soc.culture.scottish, Lesley Robertson wrote:

> These days, some people seem to be going out of their way to find an
> excuse to be offended.

I do believe you've got it, although that merely makes s.c.s a microcosm
of the broader world.

--
Joe Makowiec
http://makowiec.org/
Email: http://makowiec.org/contact/?Joe
Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org/

Deirdre Sholto Douglas

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Jul 5, 2009, 7:49:21 AM7/5/09
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Lesley Robertson wrote:

> These days, some people seem to be going out of
> their way to find an excuse to be offended.

And upon finding said excuse, they have
hissy fits and huff about as if the wound
were mortal.

Truly, if one's indignation is so close to
the surface that USENET nonsense puts it
on danger money, then one should find a
different, less upsetting, past-time.

Deirdre

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some people have.

conwaycaine

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Jul 5, 2009, 1:34:36 PM7/5/09
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"Lesley Robertson" <l.a.ro...@tnw.tudelft.nl> wrote in message
news:UKudnYQ-VOfO-M3X...@infopact.nl...

Even I can remember the scathing rhetoric heaped on trouble makers.
It was a wicked sight to behold, so it was.
Wonder what happened?
Are we all getting old and crotchety?


Jeffrey Hamilton

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Jul 5, 2009, 1:43:20 PM7/5/09
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The Highlander wrote:
> On Jul 3, 5:41 pm, Fred J. McCall <fjmcc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The Highlander <mich...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>

<snipped for brevity>

> I also want to refute any idea that left here in a snit after
> remarking that I had some problems to resolve.. I have a child in
> hospital who is not expected to outlive me and I have been extremely
> depressed for some time as I have already buried my wife and have no
> appetite for burying one of my beloved children. If this was not
> enough, my younger daughter is showing signs of the same problem. On
> top of these problems my business also died, thanks to the recession
> and I now live on a pension, saving what I can whenever I can. Quite
> bluntly, if it wasn't for the food bank, things could be a lot
> tougher.
> It was for these reasons that I ignored the remarks about spending
> money on new browsers, as the money is needed elsewhere. I make no
> excuse for all this as none of it was my fault, but it has affected me
> profoundly, both financially and emotionally. That is why I left for a
> while, because I just don't need to have shit thrown in my face by
> those who have no idea what is actually driving my emotions and
> feelings.

I am so sorry to hear about your daughter's illness and subsequent
hospitalization, Micheil. The economic downturn has certainly hit a great
many people adversely (my family included), but hopefully it will pass and
opportunities will arise for the many now having to struggle. I know you're
a strong willed person and will persevere, not only for yourself, but for
your children too. They will need _you_ to be strong. _You_ will get *your
second wind*, of that I am sure.
I will now segway into this song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbuU1OtaX4g&feature=fvst

Billy Joel - You're Only Human (Second Wind)

You're having a hard time and lately you don't feel so good
You're getting a bad reputation in your neighborhood
It's alright, it's alright, sometimes that's what it takes
You're only human, you're allowed to make your share of mistakes
(You're only human, ooo-ooo)

You better believe there will be times in your life
When you'll be feeling like a stumbling fool
So take it from me you'll learn more from your accidents
Than anything that you could ever learn at school

Don't forget your second wind
Sooner or later you'll get your second wind

It's not always easy to be living in this world of pain
You're gonna be crashing into stone walls again and again
It's alright, it's alright, don't you feel your heart break
You're only human, you're gonna have to deal with heartache
(You're only human, ooo-ooo)

Just like a boxer in a title fight
You got to walk in that ring all alone
You're not the only one who's made mistakes
But they're the only thing that you can truly call your own

Don't forget your second wind
Wait in your corner until that breeze blows in

You've been keeping to yourself these days
Cause you're thinking everything's gone wrong
Sometimes you just want to lay down and die
But that emotion can be so strong
But hold on 'till that old second wind comes along
(You're only human, ooo-ooo)

You probably don't want to hear advice from someone else
But I wouldn't be telling you if I hadn't been there myself
It's alright, it's alright, sometimes that's what it takes
We're only human, we're supposed to make mistakes
(You're only human, ooo-ooo)

I survived all those long lonely days
When it seemed I did not have a friend
Cause all I needed was a little faith
So I could catch my breath and face the world again

Don't forget your second wind
Sooner or later you'll feel that momentum kick in
(One more time!)
Don't forget your second wind
Sooner or later you'll feel that momentum kick in

Don't forget your second wind
(You're only human, ooo-ooo)

cheers.....Jeff


La N

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conwaycaine wrote:
>
> Even I can remember the scathing rhetoric heaped on trouble makers.
> It was a wicked sight to behold, so it was.
> Wonder what happened?
> Are we all getting old and crotchety?

But, who is to determine who are the "troublemakers" upon whom the rest
should dogpile? It is human nature for individuals to give a free pass or
yellow card to certain players in Usenet drama with whom they otherwise get
along, and a red card to others for whom they see no redemption.

As in all things in life, YMMV.

- nilita all zenlike today ....


La N

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Shush, Jeff! You live so close to the country of Quebec, and you didn't
know the word is "segue"? :) :) :)

Anyway, I share your sentiments. Despite what I might think of an
individual in other realms of discourse, I can't find it in myself ever to
kick someone when they are down.

- nilita


Rick

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I'm sorry to hear of your troubles, Michael.
My sympathies and best wishes on a recovery in all things for all concerned.

Rick.

Message has been deleted

Nebulous

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"The Highlander" <mic...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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On Jul 3, 5:41 pm, Fred J. McCall <fjmcc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The Highlander <mich...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> :
> :I'm looking for soc.culture.scottish.
> :

Snip>>>

Sorry to hear about your problems Mike.

I wish you and your family well. Feel free to email me if you want to,
hopefully you still have an email address for me?

Take care

Neb


sandy58

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Jul 5, 2009, 4:20:32 PM7/5/09
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On Jul 5, 9:47 am, The Phantom Piper <ThePhantomPi...@comcast.net>
wrote:

So what's wrong with your alter ego, Phantom Phukker? Cat got his
tongue....or just his/your usual phukwit lack of grey stuff? His kids
busy dying? What a stroke to pull, the arsehole. And you with your
twee little answer, "Oh, my dear Micheil! Wait - was it your younger


daughter you had posted about? Dear God, Micheil, I had no idea! "

What a load of old crap THAT was. Talk of "setup"? Who DO you think
your kidding Plastic Mac? You are STILL phucking clueless on here. Go
exhume some of those "Landed Gentry" & fellow "cold steel bade users,
why dontcha, hero. Remember that one about....."using high-grade
carbon steel- whatever- blades to cut the throats" ? The uncle who was
"awarded" some medal for gallantry in the Crimean whatever war? How
Sir Paul McCartney still owes you a fiver when he "forgot his wallet
(in the hoose near Campeltown) & had to borrow from you in the pub?
Must I go on.......? You have fed this NG with all kinds of pure
bullshit, trying to hold it up to the 1st whyte settlar's chatter but
couldn't quite pull it off as good as HE did, you total balloon.
:-) Pathetic, brainless, retarded twat.
Oh, and if you DO have any kids.....I hope they can forgive your
snidey attempt to gain sympathy at their expense.

Nkosi

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"sandy58" <alec...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 5, 9:47 am, The Phantom Piper <ThePhantomPi...@comcast.net>
wrote:
> On Jul 5, 12:02 am, sandy58 <alecki...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
it is the brain dead dog turd lurker from soc.culture.zimbabwe who boasted
about knowing everyone in Jo'burg and Harare but never set foot out of the
gorbals shit house he lives in. Piss of ye wee wanker.

Nkosi (ama_ecosse)


Jeffrey Hamilton

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Jul 5, 2009, 4:45:37 PM7/5/09
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A massive oooops on my part ! I spelt it the way it sounds, silly me. I
totally forgot about the two wheeled vehicle.
I was too interested in getting the addy and the words to the tune, posted
correctly, that I forgot to check _my_ spelling.
I'm glad noone else saw it. <g> It'll be _our_ little secret.

The Phantom Piper

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On Jul 5, 10:34 am, "conwaycaine" <conwayca...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> Wonder what happened?

Yes - that seems to be SOP for you.

> Are we all getting old and crotchety?

No - you, for example, are getting Old and Senile.


Happy To Help,

The Phantom Piper

The Phantom Piper

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Jul 5, 2009, 5:20:23 PM7/5/09
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On Jul 5, 11:46 am, "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Shush, Jeff!  You live so close to the country of Quebec,
> and you didn't know the word is "segue"?

How judgemental of you! Perhaps he meant he was
going to ride a two-wheeled, gyroscopically-stabilised,
electrically-powered vehicle into the song! Did that
ever occur to you?!

> I can't find it in myself ever to kick someone when they are down.

Unless perhaps we're talking about Billy Joel...


Thinking It Over,

The Phantom Piper

Fifeshire Floozie

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Jul 5, 2009, 5:21:14 PM7/5/09
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"conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote wondered ...

> Are we all getting old and crotchety?

Old ... "yes" ... crotchety ... "never!" Or should those answers be
reversed? Hm, Conway ... maybe you should have added forgetful to the
question. Mind you, that can sometimes be a good thing.;-)

La N.

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On Jul 5, 2:20 pm, The Phantom Piper <ThePhantomPi...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Not even Michael Jackson.

- nilita

Mind you, there is that little issue of some neocons ... are they down
yet?

The Phantom Piper

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Jul 5, 2009, 5:34:16 PM7/5/09
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On Jul 5, 1:20 pm, sandy58 <alecki...@googlemail.com> continued its
Public Self-Demolition thusly:

>
> Go exhume some of those "Landed Gentry" & fellow "cold steel
> bade users, why dontcha, hero. Remember that one about.....
>"using high-grade carbon steel- whatever- blades to cut the throats" ?
> The uncle who was "awarded" some medal for gallantry in the
> Crimean whatever war? How Sir Paul McCartney still owes you
> a fiver when he "forgot his wallet (in the hoose near Campeltown)
> & had to borrow from you in the pub?

No, I don't remember *any* of that, you moron, because
I never posted any of that. Again, you are merely doing
a Proper Job of demonstrating what an utter fool you are.
(And paranoiac, too, by the looks of it!)

> Must I go on.......?

I wish you would; it exposes you for the buffoon you are.
For anyone who cares to check, they can easily find many
instances where MacP and I have gone at it tooth and nail
over the past - oh, *15 Years* or so - and then there's the
fact that some members of this forum have met MacP in
the flesh, whereas _none_ have ever met me. Jon Croft has
corresponded via e-mail and spoken telephonically with both
of us; he knows damned well which geographical regions we
each inhabit, and that we're not anywhere near each other.

> Pathetic, brainless, retarded twat.

Yes, you're doing an *extremely* good job of proving yourself
to be one! Please keep it up; your efforts are _so_ much more
damaging to you than anything I could accomplish merely by
slagging you!


Enjoying The Show,

The Phantom Piper

Jane Margaret Laight

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Jul 5, 2009, 6:12:38 PM7/5/09
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On Jul 4, 10:08 am, The Highlander <mich...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> On Jul 3, 5:41 pm, Fred J. McCall <fjmcc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The Highlander <mich...@shaw.ca> wrote:

<snip>

Just a very short note with my best wishes for the continued good
health of your girls.

Not having had children of my own, I have no idea how devastating the
thought of the loss of any of them must be, and my heart goes out to
you. I truly hope that your remaining family and friends will be a
source of comfort and strength for you in those days that lie ahead.

Deep peace I breathe into you
Oh weariness here, O ache, here!
Deep peace, a soft white dove to you;
Deep peace, a quiet rain to you;
Deep peace, an ebbing wave to you!
Deep peace, red wind of the east from you;
Deep peace, gray wind of the west to you;
Deep peace, dark wind of the north from you;
Deep peace, blue wind of the south to you!
Deep peace, pure red of the flame to you;
Deep peace, pure white of the moon to you;
Deep peace, pure green of the grass to you;
Deep peace, pure brown of the living earth to you;
Deep peace, pure gray of the dew to you;
Deep peace, pure blue of the sky to you!
Deep peace of the running wave to you,
Deep peace of the flowing air to you,
Deep peace of the quiet Earth to you,
Deep peace of the sleeping stones to you,
Deep peace of the yellow shepherd to you,
Deep peace of the wandering shepherdess to you,
Deep peace of the Flock of Stars to You.
Deep Peace of the Son of Peace to You.
Deep peace, Deep Peace.

--John Rutter, "Deep Peace".

conwaycaine

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"La N" <nilita20...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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IMHO, if all that is heard is a steady stream of filth and juvenile insults,
he/she is a trouble maker.

And I wouldn't put my arch enemy, pee pee, in the category of a true
troublemaker.

conwaycaine

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Jul 5, 2009, 6:39:27 PM7/5/09
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"Fifeshire Floozie" <htr.@faeFife.com> wrote in message
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Forgetfulness?
This morning was a new world record for me.

I went out the door without me bible.
I did not lock the garage door.
I did not zip my fly.
And I forgot to push the automatic garage door closer..

Then I noticed Sherry staring at me
And staring and staring and staring.................


Fifeshire Floozie

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Jul 5, 2009, 9:28:05 PM7/5/09
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"conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote
> "Fifeshire Floozie" <htr.@faeFife.com> wrote

>> "conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote wondered ...
>>
>>> Are we all getting old and crotchety?
>>
>> Old ... "yes" ... crotchety ... "never!" Or should those answers
>> be reversed? Hm, Conway ... maybe you should have added forgetful
>> to the question. Mind you, that can sometimes be a good thing.;-)
>
> Forgetfulness?
> This morning was a new world record for me.
>
> I went out the door without me bible.
> I did not lock the garage door.
> I did not zip my fly.
> And I forgot to push the automatic garage door closer..
>
> Then I noticed Sherry staring at me
> And staring and staring and staring.................
>
I think she's cloored you with that skillet one time too many.

S�im� mac Liam

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Jul 5, 2009, 10:20:28 PM7/5/09
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Deirdre Sholto Douglas <finch.e...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:7b9fcqF...@mid.individual.net:

> The Highlander wrote:
>
>> You might be interested to know that when this group was flourishing
>> some years ago, Americans were barred from posting here.
>
> Bullshit.
>
> SCS has never been moderated and you can't "bar"
> anyone from posting on an unmoderated USENET
> newsfroup. If you're going to embellish, at
> least make it semi-credible, hm?
>
>

> Deirdre
>
>
> ________________
> Everyone has a photographic memory, but some
> folk don't have any film.
>

It is Micheal, isn't it?

--
Saint S�im� mac Liam
Carriagemaker to the court of Queen Maeve
Prophet of The Great Tagger
Canonized December '99

S�im� mac Liam

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Jul 5, 2009, 10:23:55 PM7/5/09
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"Fifeshire Floozie" <htr.@faeFife.com> wrote in news:7bd296F1ui27tU1
@mid.individual.net:

Or one time too few.

conwaycaine

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"Fifeshire Floozie" <htr.@faeFife.com> wrote in message
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I think so.
The term "Addlepate" fairly leaps to mind, Miz Helen.


conwaycaine

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"S�im� mac Liam" <gwy...@comcast.nospam.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9C3FC5...@74.209.136.82...

> "Fifeshire Floozie" <htr.@faeFife.com> wrote in news:7bd296F1ui27tU1
> @mid.individual.net:
>
>> "conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote
>>> "Fifeshire Floozie" <htr.@faeFife.com> wrote
>>>> "conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote wondered ...
>>>>
>>>>> Are we all getting old and crotchety?
>>>>
>>>> Old ... "yes" ... crotchety ... "never!" Or should those answers
>>>> be reversed? Hm, Conway ... maybe you should have added forgetful
>>>> to the question. Mind you, that can sometimes be a good thing.;-)
>>>
>>> Forgetfulness?
>>> This morning was a new world record for me.
>>>
>>> I went out the door without me bible.
>>> I did not lock the garage door.
>>> I did not zip my fly.
>>> And I forgot to push the automatic garage door closer..
>>>
>>> Then I noticed Sherry staring at me
>>> And staring and staring and staring.................
>>>
>> I think she's cloored you with that skillet one time too many.
>>
>>
>
> Or one time too few.

You think need more swats with the skillet?


sandy58

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Jul 6, 2009, 10:02:30 AM7/6/09
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On Jul 5, 9:42 pm, "Nkosi" <Nk...@Kya.Kamina> wrote:
> "sandy58" <alecki...@googlemail.com> wrote in message

hahahahahahaha Welcome back, wee Nkosikazi...the wee wannabe-black-but-
can't-spell-right "gay fella". A "gorbals shit house" (Your quote) is
normally a good few social grades higher than your Kya (kia=house)
Kamina= of yours, belonging to you. The Kia was the nanny's joint (as
you should know well as you have crawled in and out of quite a few,
Nkosikazi, after curfew too, eh? hahahahah Yer a wee beaut, you are.
Yer biggest asset is your mouth and then the foot that ends up in your
mouth as soon as you open the latter.
Nkosi (Zulu for King/lord etc) is king of his own little dungheap
in.......where did you end up after taking the gap, poofter?
hahahahah What does Nkosikazi mean, I wonder.......little fuckwit?
Gwan, DO tell. Meanwhile, Nkosikazi, keep yer hand on yer ha'penny,
hen. hahahahahahaha Beware of the "Slow Puncture". :-(

La N

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Is there a "bampot" in this story?

- nilita, having learned a new word on this group yesterday, butt not
actually knowing what it means, but thinking it cool nonetheless ... :)


The Phantom Piper

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On Jul 6, 6:08 am, "conwaycaine" <conwayca...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> You think need more swats with the skillet?

Why think you would that?


Go Now For While,

Phantom Piper

The Phantom Piper

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Jul 6, 2009, 12:35:12 PM7/6/09
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On Jul 6, 8:07 am, "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> - nilita, having learned a new word on this group yesterday,
> butt not actually knowing what it means, but thinking it cool
> nonetheless ...

Examples of Bampots:

Fred

Hardy

Examples of Havering Bampots:

Boedicia

"Sandy58"

Example of a Havering Bletherskite:

Conway

S�im� mac Liam

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"conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in news:kBm4m.19619
$he4....@bignews3.bellsouth.net:

You never call. You never write.

Ian Smith

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Jul 6, 2009, 3:06:04 PM7/6/09
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On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 07:08:52 -0700, The Highlander wrote:

>> The Highlander <mich...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>> :
>> :I'm looking for soc.culture.scottish. :

I too am sorry to hear of your children's illnesses. It is especially
heartbreaking whenever young ones are involved. You need a lot of that
famous steely Scottish resolve to get through this. I'm sure if we could
all send some over, we would.

Lesley Robertson

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Jul 6, 2009, 4:37:56 PM7/6/09
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"conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Lesley Robertson" <l.a.ro...@tnw.tudelft.nl> wrote in message

> Even I can remember the scathing rhetoric heaped on trouble makers.
> It was a wicked sight to behold, so it was.
> Wonder what happened?
> Are we all getting old and crotchety?
Nah, we're just divided. It was easier when we had a really obvious
matter to deal with.....
Lesley Robertson

Lesley Robertson

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Jul 6, 2009, 4:40:34 PM7/6/09
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"La N" <nilita20...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> conwaycaine wrote:
> >
>> Even I can remember the scathing rhetoric heaped on trouble makers.
>> It was a wicked sight to behold, so it was.
>> Wonder what happened?
>> Are we all getting old and crotchety?
>
> But, who is to determine who are the "troublemakers" upon whom the
> rest should dogpile? It is human nature for individuals to give a
> free pass or yellow card to certain players in Usenet drama with
> whom they otherwise get along, and a red card to others for whom
> they see no redemption.

Ah, you weren't here when we researched a wannabe to pieces.
Completely cool and polite, and very effective. Takes more time and
creativity than just spouting insults, but highly amusing.
Lesley Robertson

Lesley Robertson

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"Fifeshire Floozie" <htr.@faeFife.com> wrote in message
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I prefer to see it as maturing nicely!
Lesley Robertson

The Phantom Piper

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On Jul 6, 1:41 pm, "Lesley Robertson" <l.a.robert...@tnw.tudelft.nl>
wrote:

>
> I prefer to see it as maturing nicely!

In that case, I just had a dram of a very Forgetful malt.


What Was I Saying...?,

The Phantom Piper

S Viemeister

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Jul 6, 2009, 5:23:30 PM7/6/09
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That was a marvelous group effort!

S Viemeister

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Jul 6, 2009, 5:24:15 PM7/6/09
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Like whisky, fine wine - and cheese?

conwaycaine

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Jul 7, 2009, 10:16:03 AM7/7/09
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"S�im� mac Liam" <gwy...@comcast.nospam.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9C406F...@74.209.136.97...

> "conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in news:kBm4m.19619

>>>> I think she's cloored you with that skillet one time too many.


>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Or one time too few.
>>
>> You think need more swats with the skillet?
>>
>>
>>
>
> You never call. You never write.

I'm sorry to say this, James, but I found someone new...
(Send the spuds. I'll write)
;=)


conwaycaine

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"La N" <nilita20...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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No, no, Nilita.
"Bamskillet"
;=)


conwaycaine

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Jul 7, 2009, 10:18:39 AM7/7/09
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"Lesley Robertson" <l.a.ro...@tnw.tudelft.nl> wrote in message
news:pcydnbs7UoQ7_c_X...@infopact.nl...

Oh where is Akins of that Ilk when we need him????


conwaycaine

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Jul 7, 2009, 10:19:30 AM7/7/09
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"Lesley Robertson" <l.a.ro...@tnw.tudelft.nl> wrote in message
news:pcydnbs7UoQ7_c_X...@infopact.nl...

I meant "Akins of that Ilk".
I guess I'm worried about what may have happened to AWS................


conwaycaine

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Jul 7, 2009, 10:20:51 AM7/7/09
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"Lesley Robertson" <l.a.ro...@tnw.tudelft.nl> wrote in message
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I think so too.
Bear in mind, as long as the dice haven't stopped rolling we are all
winners..............


La N

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Jul 7, 2009, 10:21:34 AM7/7/09
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That celebrity chef Emeril Lagasse is famous for yelling "Bam"! whilst
cooking.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvazQUYG1kE


Happy

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Jul 7, 2009, 11:26:48 AM7/7/09
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"La N" <nilita20...@yahoo.com> wrote
>
> That celebrity chef Emeril Lagasse is famous for yelling "Bam"! whilst
> cooking.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvazQUYG1kE
>
>

And there's "Bamm-Bamm Rubble" from "The Flintstones" who were
pretty big in the early 60s. Bamm-Bamm must be grown up by now.


La N

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Jul 7, 2009, 11:32:19 AM7/7/09
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"Happy" <a@b.c> wrote in message news:h2vpfv$kk6$1...@theodyn.ncf.ca...

Then there's Bam-bi that the Scots evidently love to eat ... :)


S Viemeister

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Jul 7, 2009, 12:00:20 PM7/7/09
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So Bam Pot is Lancashire Hot Pot made with deer?

La N

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Jul 7, 2009, 12:11:51 PM7/7/09
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"S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
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And it merits a proper haiku.

Cory?

- nilita


Joe Makowiec

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Jul 7, 2009, 12:16:04 PM7/7/09
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Given that 'Lankashire Hot Pot' is 5 syllables, it should be relatively
easy. Lesse:

Lankashire Bam Pot
Crafted of wild venison
Simply delicious

--
Joe Makowiec
http://makowiec.org/
Email: http://makowiec.org/contact/?Joe
Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org/

La N

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"Joe Makowiec" <mako...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns9C417CCC2DB69ma...@85.214.113.135...

> On 07 Jul 2009 in soc.culture.scottish, La N wrote:
>
>>
>> "S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
>> news:7bh9onF...@mid.individual.net...
>>> La N wrote:
>>>> "Happy" <a@b.c> wrote in message
>>>> news:h2vpfv$kk6$1...@theodyn.ncf.ca...
>>>>> "La N" <nilita20...@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>>>> That celebrity chef Emeril Lagasse is famous for yelling "Bam"!
>>>>>> whilst cooking.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvazQUYG1kE
>>>>>>
>>>>> And there's "Bamm-Bamm Rubble" from "The Flintstones" who were
>>>>> pretty big in the early 60s. Bamm-Bamm must be grown up by now.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Then there's Bam-bi that the Scots evidently love to eat ... :)
>>> So Bam Pot is Lancashire Hot Pot made with deer?
>>
>> And it merits a proper haiku.
>
> Given that 'Lankashire Hot Pot' is 5 syllables, it should be relatively
> easy. Lesse:
>
> Lankashire Bam Pot
> Crafted of wild venison
> Simply delicious
>

:) :) :)

Good one!


Mike MacKinnon

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On Jul 4, 2:46 pm, "conwaycaine" <conwayca...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> "The Highlander" <mich...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>
> news:68990961-2760-44e4...@12g2000pri.googlegroups.com...

>
> > I'm looking for soc.culture.scottish.
>
> Not here.
> They all moved over to alt.feckistani
> (Good to see you posting again)

Hmmm, all looks very different now. Jeez, I go away for a while and
the whole edifice crumbles! What can I say?

Anyway, Madra, Highlander, ciamar tha thu?

Mike

Rick

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Jul 7, 2009, 4:45:04 PM7/7/09
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Mike MacKinnon wrote:
>
>
> Hmmm, all looks very different now. Jeez, I go away for a while and
> the whole edifice crumbles! What can I say?
>
> Anyway, Madra, Highlander, ciamar tha thu?
>
> Mike

Hiya, Mike!
Rick in Dahlonega.

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S�im� mac Liam

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"conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in news:3JI4m.64327
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I am currently withholding scans of family photos in retaliation for my
niece in Idaho not sending your spuds. We'll see if it has any effect.

Mike MacKinnon

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Hi Rick! Long time!!

M

conwaycaine

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"La N" <nilita20...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> conwaycaine wrote:

>
> That celebrity chef Emeril Lagasse is famous for yelling "Bam"! whilst
> cooking.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvazQUYG1kE

We used to watch him all the time.
We got tired of the crowd going crazy every time Emeril mentioned garlic.


conwaycaine

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"La N" <nilita20...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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No one is to mention "Wham, bam, thank you, ma'am"?


conwaycaine

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"S�im� mac Liam" <gwy...@comcast.nospam.net> wrote in message
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> "conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in news:3JI4m.64327

>>> You never call. You never write.


>>
>> I'm sorry to say this, James, but I found someone new...
>> (Send the spuds. I'll write)
>> ;=)
>>
>>
>>
>
> I am currently withholding scans of family photos in retaliation for my
> niece in Idaho not sending your spuds. We'll see if it has any effect.

No photies of you to your niece?
Oh that will bring her about soon enough.


conwaycaine

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"Mike MacKinnon" <cels...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Mike

*****

("Ciamar" isn't one of my six words of Gaelic so I'll guess as to it's
meaning.)
Madra has mended his ways (sort of) and there is a fair chance Michael has
adopted a new persona (The Phantom Piper)
I've no evidence to prove that but I do have my suspicions.
The rest of the gang is still here. They're just lurking for a while.

Still in Ireland?


Mike MacKinnon

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On Jul 8, 1:50 pm, "conwaycaine" <conwayca...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> "Mike MacKinnon" <celsi...@gmail.com> wrote in message

Nope, just moved back to Godzone! got a house in Carstairs but still
working in Dublin! It's all good fun!

M

S�im� mac Liam

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"conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in news:6s05m.8395
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Do I detect a hint of mirth?

Val

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On Jul 3, 4:28 pm, "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> The Highlander wrote:
> > I'm looking for soc.culture.scottish.
>
> http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,1908411,00.html
>
> Friday, Jul. 03, 2009
> The Incredible Shrinking Sheep of Scotland
> By Bryan Walsh
>
> News alert: the sheep of Scotland are shrinking! On Soay Island, off the
> western coast of Scotland, wild sheep are apparently defying the theory of
> evolution and progressively getting smaller.
>
> Why? In short, because of climate change. Generally, the sheep's life cycle
> goes like this: they fatten up on grass during the fertile, sunny summer;
> then the harsh winter comes, the grass disappears and the smallest,
> scrawniest sheep die off, while their bigger cousins survive. That's how you
> end up with big sheep, which - according to Darwin's laws of natural
> selection - will pass on their big genes to the next generation. (See
> pictures of sheep and other animals.)
>
> But over the past 25 years, the average Soay Island wild sheep has decreased
> in size, according to a report in the July 2 issue of Science by a team of
> researchers led by Tim Coulson of Imperial College London. Thanks largely to
> global warming, the winters on Soay Island are becoming shorter and milder.
> That makes food more abundant and allows some of the smaller, more
> vulnerable and younger sheep to survive. Then they go on to have offspring
> that tend to be small themselves - and have a better chance of survival
> because of the increasingly mild winters. "The environmental and
> evolutionary processes are intertwined," says Coulson "There's still natural
> selection, but it's not leaving as big a signature as it used to. There's
> still a disadvantage to being small, but not as much." (Read "The Fine Art
> of Sheep-Shearing [EM] for Fun and Profit")
>
> And while being big is still an advantage - size offers a better survival
> cushion if food proves hard to find - there are other factors that limit how
> easily that trait is passed down. Coulson and his colleagues identified what
> they call the "young mum" factor. Sheep, unlike many other mammals, tend to
> have offspring quite early in life - mothers can have lambs at one-year-old,
> before they're fully grown. Since the size of the lambs is limited by the
> size of the mothers, younger mothers have smaller babies. Thanks to the
> milder winters, more sheep are able to survive that difficult first year and
> have lambs, which means there are more small lambs being born, bringing down
> the flock's average size - and causing the shrinking of the Soay sheep.
> "Those lambs had been born with a slight disadvantage, but that's been
> erased as the climate has warmed," says Coulson. (Read "Why Some Animals
> (and People) Are Gay")
>
> The Science paper explores a fascinating topic: how species will adjust to a
> warmer world. The environment has always driven natural selection -
> successful species adapt to their surroundings, or they die - and while the
> environment has also always changed, never has it done so as quickly as it
> does today, thanks to the billions of tons of CO2 we're shoveling into the
> atmosphere. (Watch TIME's video "How to Shear a Sheep")
>
> As the Soay sheep show, animals can respond to climate change, but not in
> the ways we're accustomed to. "They can do so in two ways," says Coulson.
> "They can do so through the evolutionary process, which is a little slower,
> but they can also adapt by changing their growth rate in response to their
> environment." Scientists like Coulson can then separate the effects of
> evolution from the effects of the environment.
>
> That doesn't mean that animals will adapt and thrive in a warmer world. Far
> from it - by some estimates, rapid climate change could drive as many as
> one-third of the species on the planet out of existence by mid-century.
> Though warmer winters in blustery Scotland might sound nice - especially if
> you're a sheep on the small side - the changes due to global warming are
> likely to be far from positive in most parts of the world. Evolution will
> help species adapt, but there's a term for what happens when the pace of
> evolution can't match the pace of climate change: extinction.
>
> See pictures of sheep on LIFE.com.

zendink chokolitz, pleeze...ve iss starvink!

Val

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Jul 8, 2009, 3:52:29 PM7/8/09
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On Jul 4, 6:08 am, The Highlander <mich...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> On Jul 3, 5:41 pm, Fred J. McCall <fjmcc...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> > The Highlander <mich...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> > :
> > :I'm looking for soc.culture.scottish.
> > :
>
> > Good luck.  I think you helped wreck it with your incessant attacks on
> > people you didn't like.
>
> > --
> > You are
> > What you do
> > When it counts.
>
> I disagree. I think it has been wrecked by trolls like you who have
> tried to take the group over and make it a forum for your personal
> problems. As the PP has pointed out more than once, you know almost
> nothing about Scotland but along with others have made the group into
> an American playground. A previous page is concerned almost entirely
> with American chat that is completely alien to Scots and concerns
> people who are essentially unknown to most Scots.
> You have already been kicked out of other groups because your lack of
> knowledge about their content, and as someone who has been a member of
> this group pretty much since its inception, I strongly resent your
> pathetic attempts to speak for the group as though you are a welcome
> and permanent resident. I for one am sick of reading your pathetic
> snide remarks and attacks on others who know little or nothing about
> you and who like me are fed up with reading your litany of quotes
> which you apparently use as an attempt to prove that you have had some
> sort of formal education.
> A far as Scottish content goes, your contribution to this group has
> been one of complete and total ignorance, as witness the constant
> corrections made by Scots posting here who have to keep explaining to
> you that much of what you have gleaned from various popular authors
> which you have attempted to pass off as Scottish history is pure
> rubbish.
>
> You are clearly unaware that most Scots were denied an education about
> Scotland and its history, thanks to an English initiative which
> ensured that English history was what they were taught at school in an
> attempt to make Scotland an integrated part of the United Kingdom.
> Most of those who post facts here were self-taught as adults; part and
> parcel of our attempts to rescue our nation's history by presenting
> the real face of Scotland to those who want to know what their country
> did and how they struggled through centuries of trying to keep England
> at bay.
> People like you who pervert the reality of what Scotland was and is
> are as unwelcome here as the plague.Your contribution here is
> completely valueless and only serves to distort the story of our
> nation. It has not been helped by some of the more ignorant trolls
> such as Heid the Baa, the foul-mouthed, illiterate village idiot who
> crashed in here some time ago and who, like you, has used this forum
> to demonstrate that ignorance and stupidity are not confined to those
> who were allegedly born and raised in Scotland.
>
> There is much here of interest for those whose parents and ancestors
> left Scotland to live overseas because of lack of opportunity and the
> need to make a living. This is an opportunity that many have seized
> and as a result some are as knowledgeable as any native Scot. You seem
> to have rejected that opportunity in exchange for imposing your
> bizarre problems on the other members of this group.
>
> You might be interested to know that when this group was flourishing
> some years ago, Americans were barred from posting here. I was one of
> those who fought for the right of those of Scots descent to
> participate in this group, pointing out that those from overseas were
> no less Scots than the local posters, regardless of their current
> nationality. Most were hungry to learn something about the land of
> their ancestors and there was a time that soc.culture scottish was
> widely acknowledged as the most interesting and vibrant group on the
> internet. We have corresponded with people from South America, Turkey,
> Kazakhstan, Argentina, Moscow; people whose ancestors were Scots and
> who wanted to learn more about the land of their fathers.
> If you need to be provocative and are determined to spread the story
> of Fred J. McCall and all his wonders, try
> soc.culture.irish, where you will probably be run out of town within
> minutes of your first post.
>
> I come from a family whose guiding principle is "Never apologise;
> never explain" and I'm not particularly thrilled at finding myself
> explaining. I do so simply to remind all who decided that they knew
> best about the emotions I was feeling that there are often things
> hiding behind the scenes and that jumping to conclusions has its
> dangers.
>
> I also want to refute any idea that left here in a snit after
> remarking that I had some problems to resolve.. I have a child in
> hospital who is not expected to outlive me and I have been extremely
> depressed for some time as I have already buried my wife and have no
> appetite for burying one of my beloved children. If this was not
> enough, my younger daughter is showing signs of the same problem. On
> top of these problems my business also died, thanks to the recession
> and I now live on a pension, saving what I can whenever I can. Quite
> bluntly, if it wasn't for the food bank, things could be a lot
> tougher.
> It was for these reasons that I ignored the remarks about spending
> money on new browsers, as the money is needed elsewhere. I make no
> excuse for all this as none of it was my fault, but it has affected me
> profoundly, both financially and emotionally. That is why I left for a
> while, because I just don't need to have shit thrown in my face by
> those who have no idea what is actually driving my emotions and
> feelings.
> .

hey, Micheil

we havent had a good fight for ages, so as soon as you feel up to it,
lets do...

meantime...

{{{{{{{{{{{{Micheil! & Flok!}}}}}}}}}}}}

Luff,
De Lerkan Merkan....and THEM....

conwaycaine

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"Mike MacKinnon" <cels...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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********

Isn't that a bit of a swim??
;=)

conwaycaine

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"S�im� mac Liam" <gwy...@comcast.nospam.net> wrote in message
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> "conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in news:6s05m.8395
> $Uf1....@bignews2.bellsouth.net:
>
>>
>> "S�im� mac Liam" <gwy...@comcast.nospam.net> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9C41EC...@74.209.136.94...
>>> "conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in news:3JI4m.64327
>>
>>>>> You never call. You never write.
>>>>
>>>> I'm sorry to say this, James, but I found someone new...
>>>> (Send the spuds. I'll write)
>>>> ;=)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I am currently withholding scans of family photos in retaliation for
> my
>>> niece in Idaho not sending your spuds. We'll see if it has any
> effect.
>>
>> No photies of you to your niece?
>> Oh that will bring her about soon enough.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Do I detect a hint of mirth?

Mirth? Me?
You know full well I am as sober minded as a Scot in Kirk.
(Or a Scot with an empty purse and an empty bottle)


The Phantom Piper

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Jul 8, 2009, 7:29:51 PM7/8/09
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On Jul 8, 5:50 am, "conwaycaine" <conwayca...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> I've no evidence to prove that but I do have my suspicions.

That's because you're a Moron.

There is a Cure though; you will need:

1 Large Bucket or Tub (5+ Gallon Capacity)

5 Gallons of Creosote

A Cold Winter Day or Large Freezer

Place the Tub or Bucket on the ground or any
flat, level surface; fill it with the Creosote (Note:
Creosote *must* be _Ice Cold_!); bending at
the waist, submerge your head into the freezing
coal-tar. DO NOT RAISE YOUR HEAD ONCE
THE PROCEDURE IS UNDERWAY!!!!! Keep
your head fully submerged within the Creosote
until bubbles cease to be formed. You are now
no longer a Moron.


Helpfully,

The Phantom Piper

Mike MacKinnon

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Jul 9, 2009, 5:46:49 AM7/9/09
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Godnoze!! I've had to drive it for the past two weeks in my specially
adapted Volvo! I hired a big van (well, big for Ireland) to do the
move and it wasn't big enough. I'm still transporting car loads of
stuff over the water.

I'll be soooo glad when it's finished!

M

conwaycaine

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"Mike MacKinnon" <cels...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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****************

Moving is always a royal pain in the butt.
But it will all end and the experience will fade into a painful memory.


The Phantom Piper

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On Jul 9, 6:08 am, "conwaycaine" <conwayca...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> But it will all end and the experience will fade into a painful memory.

Just as you will, soon.


Preparing The Celebration,

The Phantom Piper

Jeffrey Hamilton

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Jul 9, 2009, 12:00:03 PM7/9/09
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I would have, but I was in a *bit of a rush*. Oh well....

cheers....Jeff


conwaycaine

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Jul 11, 2009, 10:27:56 AM7/11/09
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"Jeffrey Hamilton" <bbere...@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
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You are then the fastest man in all Calgary?
;=)


Jeffrey Hamilton

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Jul 12, 2009, 4:42:56 PM7/12/09
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erm.....possibly, If _I_ was in Calgary. I currently live in St Catharines.
About 60 miles or so from Toronto and about 15 miles from Niagara Falls.
Being a ex-drummer, I still have fast reflexes and hand speed though, does
that count ? <g>

cheers....Jeff


conwaycaine

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Jul 12, 2009, 5:31:58 PM7/12/09
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"Jeffrey Hamilton" <bbere...@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
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I'm not sure Speedy Gonzales was in to hand speeds.
But he did have great reflexes.

The Phantom Piper

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Jul 13, 2009, 12:43:33 AM7/13/09
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On Jul 12, 1:42 pm, "Jeffrey Hamilton" <bberesf...@cogeco.ca> wrote:
>
> Being a ex-drummer

*/:~D

Have you seen *this* yet?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0812243/


Hahahahahahahaha,

The Phantom Piper

Jeffrey Hamilton

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Jul 13, 2009, 12:59:49 AM7/13/09
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No, is it worth seeing ?

cheers.....Jeff


La N

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Jul 13, 2009, 1:05:08 AM7/13/09
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I've not seen it either, but it sure has good ratings.

btw, why didn't PP fix up some of your grammar. It's "an" ex-drummer, not
"a" ex-drummer, unless of course you were meaning Grade A ex-drummer ...
:))))

- nilita, who likes foreign films and whose little 18-month-old grandkiddy
has recently acquired his first set of little drums ... so damned sweet ...
and they're the real thing, straight out of a music store ... :)

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