Can anybody explain why The Broons, who seem to be typical (or stereotypical)
working class folk, can afford what seems to be their own country cottage?
When I've asked friends for explanations, they tell me "They only rent the
but'n'ben", but if you browse through any annual, you'll see that they are
there for at least six weeks every year. Anybody who could afford to rent a
cottage for those number of weeks (peak time, i.e. all summer) could
certainly afford to buy their own. What does Paw do for a living anyway? His
dungers would imply that he is in some sort of manual job, but I can't
remember ever seeing it written down. All the adults seem to have really long
holidays, but they don't look like teachers. Any ideas?
By the way, I don't know why there was all that fuss a few years back about
fertility treatment for women in their fifties, since Maw must have been at
least eighty when she had the Bairn.
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Queen Margaret College
Edinburgh
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> This has been bothering me since I was a kid......
>
> Can anybody explain why The Broons, who seem to be typical (or stereotypical)
> working class folk, can afford what seems to be their own country cottage?
I don't know much about Dudley D. Watkins' background, but with a name like that
(no prejudice intended) I doubt if he was from the working class. Perhaps he
assumed
everybody had a place in the country.
| This has been bothering me since I was a kid......
|
| Can anybody explain why The Broons, who seem to be typical (or stereotypical)
| working class folk, can afford what seems to be their own country cottage?
| When I've asked friends for explanations, they tell me "They only rent the
| but'n'ben",
Correct and, as it is a 2 room hovel, very cheap too.
| but if you browse through any annual, you'll see that they are
| there for at least six weeks every year.
Not an unusual occurance for the time period it was originally conceived.
It was fairly common to take long summer lets and maw and the weans would
head for the country. Paw would join them at week-ends and for his fortnight
holidays.
| Anybody who could afford to rent a
| cottage for those number of weeks (peak time, i.e. all summer) could
| certainly afford to buy their own.
Not then. Cottages in the country were dead cheap - particularly but n bens.
Anyway, they have 5 incomes coming in, Paw, Hen, Joe, Maggie and Daphne all
work.
| What does Paw do for a living anyway?
He works for some sort of engineering company. Hen and Joe work in the same
place
| By the way, I don't know why there was all that fuss a few years back about
| fertility treatment for women in their fifties, since Maw must have been at
| least eighty when she had the Bairn.
She was 66. Paw was a guinea pig for Viagra experiments.
: Can anybody explain why The Broons, who seem to be typical (or stereotypical)
: working class folk, can afford what seems to be their own country cottage?
I've always assumed that the but an' ben was where the Broon's ancestors lived
before the family moved to the city. It didn't seem odd to me as a child, as
in Glasgow everyone's grandma knew someone with a wee house in Millport.
Anyway, they have five set of wages coming in!
: What does Paw do for a living anyway?
He works in a shipyard, as does (as far as I can remember) Joe. Hen works in
an office. I refer the Honorable Gentleman (or should that be Hon Man?) to
the Broons episode in which the bairn, tired of the others giving Maw IOU's
all the time, replaces their packed lunches with pictorial IOU's. We are
shown the reaction of the adults as they open their sandwiches in their
workplaces.
: By the way, I don't know why there was all that fuss a few years back about
: fertility treatment for women in their fifties, since Maw must have been at
: least eighty when she had the Bairn.
Not at all. I would guess that she and Paw are in their late forties, with
the bairn about 4, the twins 10, Horace 15 and Maggie, Joe, Hen and Daphne
between 18 and 30. Quite possible - and, for the time, quite restrained. My
great grandmother died shortly after giving birth to her fourteenth child, at
about 40.
Ian
a.gal...@mail.qmced.ac.uk wrote:
> This has been bothering me since I was a kid......
>
> Can anybody explain why The Broons, who seem to be typical (or stereotypical)
> working class folk, can afford what seems to be their own country cottage?
> When I've asked friends for explanations, they tell me "They only rent the
> but'n'ben", but if you browse through any annual, you'll see that they are
> there for at least six weeks every year. Anybody who could afford to rent a
> cottage for those number of weeks (peak time, i.e. all summer) could
> certainly afford to buy their own. What does Paw do for a living anyway? His
> dungers would imply that he is in some sort of manual job, but I can't
> remember ever seeing it written down. All the adults seem to have really long
> holidays, but they don't look like teachers. Any ideas?
>
> By the way, I don't know why there was all that fuss a few years back about
> fertility treatment for women in their fifties, since Maw must have been at
> least eighty when she had the Bairn.
>
Actually, it was given to them on a "use it as long as you want" lease by
the "fairmer doon the road". I read the episode :)
Scotty
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> Not an unusual occurance for the time period it was originally conceived.
> It was fairly common to take long summer lets and maw and the weans would
> head for the country. Paw would join them at week-ends and for his fortnight
> holidays.
I know loads of people who did indeed come into that category, but they are
all middle (indeed upper-middle) class. My own parents were working class
turned middle class (my father taught) and we could only afford to rent a
cottage for one week, at Easter, two years running. That would have been in
the early sixties. The Broons had had their one for quite a while by then.
> Not then. Cottages in the country were dead cheap - particularly but n bens.
> Anyway, they have 5 incomes coming in, Paw, Hen, Joe, Maggie and Daphne all
> work.
Good point. I hadn't thought about all those incomes. How do they all fit in
there anyway?
> | By the way, I don't know why there was all that fuss a few years back about
> | fertility treatment for women in their fifties, since Maw must have been at
> | least eighty when she had the Bairn.
>
> She was 66. Paw was a guinea pig for Viagra experiments.
ROFL. Hence that permanent smile on his face.
--------------------------
They bring to mind 'Oor Willie' - a rather engaging gamin, as I
recall. Is he still around?
Frederick Gall wrote:
Jings crivens he is, every Sunday in the Sunday Post.
MacGregor
>It's damn near 60 years since I read the old Sunday Post with 'The
>Broons' therein.
>
>They bring to mind 'Oor Willie' - a rather engaging gamin, as I
>recall. Is he still around?
>
He is - and if you'd like to go to my website you can see an episode
each of Oor Wullie and the Broons. The Oor Wullie one is from the
issue of 21st May, 1939 and the Broons episode is from 31st December,
1944. If you're as old as me you'll likely remember them!
I'm very Scottish - I never throw anything out...
Měcheil Rob Mac Phŕdruig
"Faire faire dhuin' ňig
cia do bharantas mór?
'N i do bharail bhith
beň 's nach eug thu?"
Gordon Gregor MacGregor wrote:
> Frederick Gall wrote:
>
> > It's damn near 60 years since I read the old Sunday Post with 'The
> > Broons' therein.
> >
> > They bring to mind 'Oor Willie' - a rather engaging gamin, as I
> > recall. Is he still around?
>
> Jings crivens he is, every Sunday in the Sunday Post.
> MacGregor
Happiness is not only finding a copy of the anniversary book in a
second hand book shop (missed it when it came out), but also getting the
new one - Oor Wullie and the Broons at War (or some such title).
Lesley Robertson
> Happiness is not only finding a copy of the anniversary book in a
>second hand book shop (missed it when it came out), but also getting the
>new one - Oor Wullie and the Broons at War (or some such title).
>Lesley Robertson
Pardon the boasting but I'm even happier! I've got a Oor
Wullie t-shirt! I've had more fun just showing him off and
watching the smiles on the faces of those in the know. Then
there are those who ask, "Why are you wearing some guy
sitting on the bog on your chest?" I'd post where I got
it, but I've got a friend from Hamilton planning to buy the
place out for Xmas presents - Sorry.
* R
: Happiness is not only finding a copy of the anniversary book in a
: second hand book shop (missed it when it came out),
Genuine Dudley D books are going through the roof at the moment - 30 quid for
one in good condition is quite usual. So I was delighted to get one for 3 quid
last week!
Ian
| second hand book shop (missed it when it came out), but also getting the
| new one - Oor Wullie and the Broons at War (or some such title).
Broons at War it was. Couple of years back, but I can't remember what it
was commemorating, was it really 1995 and 50 years from the end of WW2?
>In article <360A050D...@stm.tudelft.nl.removethis>, Lesley Robertson
><l.a.ro...@stm.tudelft.nl.removethis> wrote:
>
>
>| second hand book shop (missed it when it came out), but also getting the
>| new one - Oor Wullie and the Broons at War (or some such title).
>
>Broons at War it was. Couple of years back, but I can't remember what it
>was commemorating, was it really 1995 and 50 years from the end of WW2?
The Jubilee 60th anniversary edition of both Oor Wullie and
the Broons in 1996? It had alot of the war cartoons
reprinted in it, as I recall.
I have a copy that I bought that year when I was home. It's called "Oor
Wullie Goes To War" PLUS "The Broons On The Home Front", and it was
published in 1989.
Helen
If they're still as litigious as they used to be, I expect you'll be
hearing from D C Thomson's lawyers real soon now about a breach of
copyright action....
>I'm very Scottish - I never throw anything out...
--
Ian O. Morrison
Great! It's like the beginning of the academic year.
All those old arguments and favourites come back
again and again and again!
BTW Ian, SCRAN got a mention in the latest issue
of the Library Association Record - bet that makes
you proud!
Gizzajobmate.
> Broons at War it was. Couple of years back, but I can't remember what it
> was commemorating, was it really 1995 and 50 years from the end of WW2?
I remember what it was about. The Bairn told Ma that she heard Granpa say
he was going to commemorate 50 years of comical misunderstandings ensuing.
But when Pa had got the whole family together and they all went around to his
place they discovered he'd actually said _commiserate_ on 50 years stuck in a
timewarp with the same plot repeated at four weekly intervals.
My, how they chortled!
--
============================ G.S.Sinclair ====
========================= Oh, it's a _scythe_!
Now I've got the book in front of me - "The Broons and Oor Wullie at
War" - isbn 0-85116-651-2. Publication, DC Thomson, 1997. One thing I've
found interesting, Wullie turns up in a couple of the Broons frames, and
his parents mention a family called the Broons.
Lesley Robertson
Yes "freehold" is only an English term. It's only a short while since we had
a thread on Land Tenure and Feudalism in Scotland. Surely it's not time for
another one?
Beannachd leibh
Stephen
>In article <3609d4a7...@news.whidbey.com>, =?iso-8859-1?q?Micheil_
>Rob_Mac_Ph=E0druig?= <mik...@whidbey.com> writes
>>He is - and if you'd like to go to my website you can see an episode
>>each of Oor Wullie and the Broons. The Oor Wullie one is from the
>>issue of 21st May, 1939 and the Broons episode is from 31st December,
>>1944. If you're as old as me you'll likely remember them!
>
>If they're still as litigious as they used to be, I expect you'll be
>hearing from D C Thomson's lawyers real soon now about a breach of
>copyright action....
>
Imagine that! I already had a letter from someone at the Scotsman -
very pleasant he was too - he seemed quite gratified and gave me
permission to continue displaying the material.
Nice of you to brighten my day with your thoughtful comment. It's
always nice to know that there's someone making it his business to
ensure we don't overstep the bounds of propriety and enter the murky
world of high crimes and misdemeanours,
>On Thu, 24 Sep 1998 15:46:31 +0100, "Ian O. Morrison"
><I...@nmsdoc.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>In article <3609d4a7...@news.whidbey.com>, =?iso-8859-1?q?Micheil_
>>Rob_Mac_Ph=E0druig?= <mik...@whidbey.com> writes
>
>>>He is - and if you'd like to go to my website you can see an episode
>>>each of Oor Wullie and the Broons. The Oor Wullie one is from the
>>>issue of 21st May, 1939 and the Broons episode is from 31st December,
>>>1944. If you're as old as me you'll likely remember them!
>>
>>If they're still as litigious as they used to be, I expect you'll be
>>hearing from D C Thomson's lawyers real soon now about a breach of
>>copyright action....
>>
>Imagine that! I already had a letter from someone at the Scotsman -
>very pleasant he was too - he seemed quite gratified and gave me
>permission to continue displaying the material.
>
The Scotsman has nothing at all to do with DC Thomson or the Broons.
It's published by a completely different company.
Derek Hodge <g...@edinburgh.almac.co.uk>
George Hodge Associates
Press & Public Relations Consultants
11 Maritime Street, Leith, EDINBURGH EH6 6SB
Tel: (+44) 131 624 8911 Fax (+44) 131 624 8912
http://www.almac.co.uk/gha/
You can't expect Paterson to know that, Derek. He's already admitted he
isn't Scottish.
--
Ian O. Morrison
>
>On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 20:28:50 GMT, mik...@whidbey.com (Micheil Rob Mac
>Phŕdruig) wrote:
>>Imagine that! I already had a letter from someone at the Scotsman -
>>very pleasant he was too - he seemed quite gratified and gave me
>>permission to continue displaying the material.
>>
>
>The Scotsman has nothing at all to do with DC Thomson or the Broons.
>It's published by a completely different company.
>
There's some material from the Scotsman.
| On Mon, 28 Sep 1998 15:45:39 GMT, g...@edinburgh.almac.co.uk (Derek
| Hodge) wrote:
|
| >
| >On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 20:28:50 GMT, mik...@whidbey.com (Micheil Rob Mac
| >Phàdruig) wrote:
|
| >>Imagine that! I already had a letter from someone at the Scotsman -
| >>very pleasant he was too - he seemed quite gratified and gave me
| >>permission to continue displaying the material.
| >>
| >
| >The Scotsman has nothing at all to do with DC Thomson or the Broons.
| >It's published by a completely different company.
| >
| There's some material from the Scotsman.
..but _the_ material both you and he were discussing was the war edition
of the Broons and Oor Wullie - probably both from the recent collection
published, The Broons at War - and they have nothing to do with the Scotsman
as the man, and indeed any Scotsman, would tell you. They are owned by DC
Thomson based in Dundee. The Scotsman is based in Edinburgh and an entirely
different company.
He's also right about DC Thomson's litiguous nature. A while back they took
action against some small charitable organisation using Desperate Dan as a logo.
>In article <36109cf0...@news.whidbey.com>, mik...@whidbey.com
>(Micheil Rob Mac Phŕdruig) wrote:
>
>| On Mon, 28 Sep 1998 15:45:39 GMT, g...@edinburgh.almac.co.uk (Derek
>| Hodge) wrote:
>| >The Scotsman has nothing at all to do with DC Thomson or the Broons.
>| >It's published by a completely different company.
>| >
>| There's some material from the Scotsman.
>
>..but _the_ material both you and he were discussing was the war edition
>of the Broons and Oor Wullie - probably both from the recent collection
>published, The Broons at War - and they have nothing to do with the Scotsman
>as the man, and indeed any Scotsman, would tell you. They are owned by DC
>Thomson based in Dundee. The Scotsman is based in Edinburgh and an entirely
>different company.
I know that. I've always known that. I don't understand why my
original comment should be interpreted as not knowing that.
>You can't expect Paterson to know that, Derek. He's already admitted he
>isn't Scottish.
You mean the post about Otis D. Smith?
You must be even more humour-impaired than I thought.
It's not me that's humour-impaired, it's the lawyers representing D C
Thomson. My original posting on this thread was simply a friendly word
of warning about using D C Thomson material without permission. If you
choose to ignore the warning, muddy the waters with idle ad hominem
attacks, or make confused references to entirely different newspaper
publishers, that's up to you.
And, personally, I thought your Otis D. Smith post revealed quite a lot
of the true Paterson, unlike the pseudo-Gaelic persona you usually tout
around these parts.
--
Ian O. Morrison
>In article <36119298...@news.whidbey.com>, =?iso-8859-1?q?Micheil_
>Rob_Mac_Ph=E0druig?= <mik...@whidbey.com> writes
>>On Tue, 29 Sep 1998 08:30:30 +0100, "Ian O. Morrison"
>><I...@nmsdoc.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>You can't expect Paterson to know that, Derek. He's already admitted he
>>>isn't Scottish.
>>
>>You mean the post about Otis D. Smith?
>>
>>You must be even more humour-impaired than I thought.
>
>It's not me that's humour-impaired, it's the lawyers representing D C
>Thomson. My original posting on this thread was simply a friendly word
>of warning about using D C Thomson material without permission. If you
>choose to ignore the warning, muddy the waters with idle ad hominem
>attacks, or make confused references to entirely different newspaper
>publishers, that's up to you.
"A friendly word of warning?" I thought it had all the intrusive
malevolence which I have come to associate with you. It's been a nice
group while you were away; within days of your return you are already
fomenting unpleasantness.
Not that it's any of your business, but I did in fact write to D C
Thompson some time ago, but am still waiting for a reply. I find it's
better to tackle these matters by the front door, rather than sneaking
around in the manner with which you have decided to characterize me
without bothering to ask whether I had permission or not to display
the material. Not the gesture of a prudent man, I would have thought.
>And, personally, I thought your Otis D. Smith post revealed quite a lot
>of the true Paterson, unlike the pseudo-Gaelic persona you usually tout
>around these parts.
I don't care about your opinion; I think you're a pitiful little man
with a personality problem. However, I have just spent the last hour
writing a farewell to s.c.s. as I've pretty well decided, like so many
others, that I don't care to share this newsgroup with you. If I do
post it, you can be sure it will make fascinating, detailed reading.
Micheil Rob Mac Phŕdruig wrote:
> I have just spent the last hour
> writing a farewell to s.c.s. as I've pretty well decided, like so many
> others, that I don't care to share this newsgroup with you. If I do
> post it, you can be sure it will make fascinating, detailed reading.
>
But I've only just decided to come back!!!! Was it something I said????
Waaahhhhhh.....
Lesley Robertson
I know someone who had some experience of them recently over a copyright
thing, involving the Broons as it happens. It took DCT a long time to
respond, and they weren't very helpful when they did. Publishing their
famous cartoons on the web, I hazard, would be just the thing to get
their legal team all excited, I'd have thought.
In my limited experience, companies or institutions who have popular
images in their possession don't like other people publishing them on
the web.
>
>I don't care about your opinion; I think you're a pitiful little man
>with a personality problem. However, I have just spent the last hour
>writing a farewell to s.c.s. as I've pretty well decided, like so many
>others, that I don't care to share this newsgroup with you. If I do
>post it, you can be sure it will make fascinating, detailed reading.
Crivvens.
--
Michael Wade
[About copyright of The Broons/Oor Wullie]
| Not that it's any of your business, but I did in fact write to D C
| Thompson some time ago, but am still waiting for a reply.
That delay may have something to do with your confusion over who actually
publishes it!!
>Not that it's any of your business, but I did in fact write to D C
>Thompson some time ago, but am still waiting for a reply. I find it's
>better to tackle these matters by the front door, rather than sneaking
>around in the manner with which you have decided to characterize me
>without bothering to ask whether I had permission or not to display
>the material. Not the gesture of a prudent man, I would have thought.
On the contrary, it is prudent to assume that D C Thomson will not have
given you permission to display their cartoons, since they rarely do.
Far more common is legal action on their behalf. I have no intention of
telling them that you have pre-empted their reply, but they do have a
strong web presence and will probably find out in due course.
>
>>And, personally, I thought your Otis D. Smith post revealed quite a lot
>>of the true Paterson, unlike the pseudo-Gaelic persona you usually tout
>>around these parts.
>
>I don't care about your opinion; I think you're a pitiful little man
>with a personality problem. However, I have just spent the last hour
>writing a farewell to s.c.s. as I've pretty well decided, like so many
>others, that I don't care to share this newsgroup with you. If I do
>post it, you can be sure it will make fascinating, detailed reading.
To expand on Mr Wade's response - "jings, crivvens and helpmaboab".
If it's the usual fiction, I wouldn't bother. It will only make you look
even more foolish and spiteful than you do already.
As far as I can see, it is the disappearance of your friends and
admirers from this group that has attracted back so many of those whose
opinions I value.
Cheerio!
--
Ian O. Morrison
>Micheil Rob Mac Phŕdruig wrote:
>
>> I have just spent the last hour
>> writing a farewell to s.c.s. as I've pretty well decided, like so many
>> others, that I don't care to share this newsgroup with you. If I do
>> post it, you can be sure it will make fascinating, detailed reading.
>>
>
>But I've only just decided to come back!!!! Was it something I said????
>Waaahhhhhh.....
>Lesley Robertson
Every newsgroup I post to has some irritating gits I can't stand. If we all
picked up our balls (?) and went home every time someone annoyed us usenet
would be a very quiet place. This would be at least the second time MacP's
has quit this newsgroup in a cream puff and frankly I'm no more impressed
this time than I was last time.
--
Colin Rosenthal
High Altitude Observatory
Boulder, Colorado
rose...@hao.ucar.edu
: > I have just spent the last hour
: > writing a farewell to s.c.s. as I've pretty well decided, like so many
: > others, that I don't care to share this newsgroup with you. If I do
: > post it, you can be sure it will make fascinating, detailed reading.
Damn. McPrat storms out in the nineteenth recorded huff of his Internet
"career" and, thanks to my kill file, I haven't seen a word of the row.
Who probed a bit too intelligently this time?
Ian
: As far as I can see, it is the disappearance of your friends and
: admirers from this group that has attracted back so many of those whose
: opinions I value.
Maybe he couldn't afford the multiple ISP subscriptions any more. And yes,
it's nice to see the group get back to some semblance of what we
laughingly call "normality".
Ian (not the grizzled one. Well, not much.)
>If they're still as litigious as they used to be, I expect you'll be
>hearing from D C Thomson's lawyers real soon now about a breach of
>copyright action....
I was particularly interested to read the following at the foot of the
Broons page.
"All rights reserved. All content copyright © 1997/1998 Měcheil
Rob Mac Phŕdruig."
I think not somehow.
Did he ever pay you his threatened "visit"?
>I was particularly interested to read the following at the foot of the
>Broons page.
>
>"All rights reserved. All content copyright © 1997/1998 Měcheil
>Rob Mac Phŕdruig."
>
>I think not somehow.
>
>Derek Hodge <g...@edinburgh.almac.co.uk>
>George Hodge Associates
>Press & Public Relations Consultants
>11 Maritime Street, Leith, EDINBURGH EH6 6SB
>Tel: (+44) 131 624 8911 Fax (+44) 131 624 8912
>http://www.almac.co.uk/gha/
Have you considered becoming a police informer? I understand it pays
quite well. I suggest this only because public relations doesn't seem
to be, you know, the _strongest_ card among your many skills.
>On 30 Sep 1998 23:41:27 GMT,
>Ian Johnston <engs...@sable.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
>>: Micheil Rob Mac Phŕdruig wrote:
>>
>>: > I have just spent the last hour
>>: > writing a farewell to s.c.s. as I've pretty well decided, like so many
>>: > others, that I don't care to share this newsgroup with you. If I do
>>: > post it, you can be sure it will make fascinating, detailed reading.
>>
>>Damn. McPrat storms out in the nineteenth recorded huff of his Internet
>>"career" and, thanks to my kill file, I haven't seen a word of the row.
>
>Did he ever pay you his threatened "visit"?
>
No, he didn't, although he stood outside for a few minutes, sorely
tempted, until prevailed upon to leave it be.
>High Altitude Observatory
>Boulder, Colorado
>rose...@hao.ucar.edu
I notice you don't live too far from me.
: >Damn. McPrat storms out in the nineteenth recorded huff of his Internet
: >"career" and, thanks to my kill file, I haven't seen a word of the row.
: Did he ever pay you his threatened "visit"?
That honour did not come my way, no. It would have been nice to introduce
him to Scotland.
Ian
> On 1 Oct 1998 17:31:37 GMT, rose...@asp.hao.ucar.edu (Colin
> Rosenthal) wrote:
> >On 30 Sep 1998 23:41:27 GMT,
> >Ian Johnston <engs...@sable.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
> >>: Micheil Rob Mac Phŕdruig wrote:
> >>
> >>: > I have just spent the last hour
> >>: > writing a farewell to s.c.s. as I've pretty well decided, like so many
> >>: > others, that I don't care to share this newsgroup with you. If I do
> >>: > post it, you can be sure it will make fascinating, detailed reading.
> >>
> >>Damn. McPrat storms out in the nineteenth recorded huff of his Internet
> >>"career" and, thanks to my kill file, I haven't seen a word of the row.
> >
> >Did he ever pay you his threatened "visit"?
> >
> No, he didn't, although he stood outside for a few minutes, sorely
> tempted, until prevailed upon to leave it be.
> >High Altitude Observatory
> >Boulder, Colorado
> >rose...@hao.ucar.edu
> I notice you don't live too far from me.
> Měcheil Rob Mac Phŕdruig
> "Faire faire dhuin' ňig
> cia do bharantas mór?
> 'N i do bharail bhith
> beň 's nach eug thu?"
Yes, but he can see you coming from a long way off by the looks of it.
Dirty B***tard.
regards
chic
>Have you considered becoming a police informer? I understand it pays
>quite well. I suggest this only because public relations doesn't seem
>to be, you know, the _strongest_ card among your many skills.
They're certainly considerably stronger than your knowledge of the
Scottish media or respect for other people's copyright. But I'm not
here to trade ad hominems with yourself.
As to being an informer, I really just can't be bothered. Though it
would have only taken about 30 seconds of my time to drop you right
in it with DC Thomson's lawyers.
A bit of professional advice (free but worth a lot more). It is not
particularly smart to abuse DC Thomson's copyright in any way. They
are famous for their litigious nature.
To display their material on a commercial Internet site is even less
clever. They are partners in Scotland Online who run, among other
things, a Scottish internet site http://www.scotland.net/ that is in
direct competion with your own effort.
To then claim, as you did, that the Broons' and Our Wullie strips on
your site were "All rights reserved. All content copyright ©
1997/1998 Měcheil Rob Mac Phŕdruig." was really asking for it.
Just as well they've gone really.
> I don't care about your opinion; I think you're a pitiful little man
> with a personality problem. However, I have just spent the last hour
> writing a farewell to s.c.s. as I've pretty well decided, like so many
> others, that I don't care to share this newsgroup with you. If I do
> post it, you can be sure it will make fascinating, detailed reading.
It only took you an hour Micheil ? You obviously don't have the stamina
of your younger days. Please submit the usual 18 page essay full
of self rightous huff by Monday and we'll have it marked for you by next
weekend.
Or you could just recycle your last one.
Strangly I've almost come to quite like MacP. In an ever changing world
it's nice to be able to rely on someone churning out the same old nonsense
month after month. I look forward to your inevitable return.
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Hello Derrek and Everyone,
I like the "oor Wullie and the Broons" along with many
others. And if someone wishes to post it here, in this
newsgroup, I would be very gratefull, since I am living
at the arse end of the world.
So someone please tell me again, where can I read
these cartoons on the internet?
Please Derek do not be a wet blanket.
It is very unlikely someone will make a dollar out of
a few posts just for fun.
Oor Wullie and the Broons are National Icons.
Derrek,
Have you paid for "all" the software on "your" computer?
I have yet to meet anyone who has.
Lets chuck unnecessary fear out the window.
Kindest Regards,
John Crighton
18 Talwong Street
Hornsby Heights
New South Wales
Australia
>On Fri, 02 Oct 1998 03:19:13 GMT, by which time the Broons and Our
>Wullie had disappeared from his web site for "copyright reasons"
>mik...@whidbey.com (Micheil Rob Mac Phŕdruig) wrote:
Actually I received a very pleasant letter from a Mr. Tom Mackay three
days ago who said he regretted that my original request to display
them would have to be refused. He mentioned that they had
"difficulties" with the copyright and noted that (because of these
difficulties, I assume) they don't even portray the characters on
their own sites, including the Sunday Post site.
So I gather the Watkins heirs must have made some very stringent
conditions part of the agreement to allow the Sunday Post to maintain
publishing rights to the two strips and this is why they are so
litigious, in order to avoid losing their licence to publish. I
presume it's to prevent them being used for advertising purposes.
Followng Mr. Mackay's letter, I removed the strips as I've had a lot
of pleasure from the Sunday Post over the years and don't want to
contribute towards any problems they may have. Also, I don't wish to
develop a reputation for being "difficult".
>>Have you considered becoming a police informer? I understand it pays
>>quite well. I suggest this only because public relations doesn't seem
>>to be, you know, the _strongest_ card among your many skills.
>
>They're certainly considerably stronger than your knowledge of the
>Scottish media or respect for other people's copyright. But I'm not
>here to trade ad hominems with yourself.
Let me disabuse you once and for all Mr. Hodge - I have always known
that the Sunday Post and the Sctosman are owned by different groups;
you have simply chosen to misinterpret my remarks in a previous post.
However, far be it from me to restrain you in your little cawings of
happiness over some self-perceived victory. It does however give one a
rather unfortunate impression of lowered intelligence.
>As to being an informer, I really just can't be bothered. Though it
>would have only taken about 30 seconds of my time to drop you right
>in it with DC Thomson's lawyers.
>
>A bit of professional advice (free but worth a lot more). It is not
>particularly smart to abuse DC Thomson's copyright in any way. They
>are famous for their litigious nature.
Thank you, but I don't need your advice on matters Scottish. I have
perfectly competent lawyers of my own in Edinburgh who handle various
matters for me from time to time; quite apart from various members of
my family and friends who live there. I realize that you are not alone
in seeing the world as "foreign" and assume therefore that I know
nothing of Scotland or its affairs, but many people such as myself
maintain close links with several countries and move around them or do
business in them with no sense of being "abroad". Cosmopolitanism, as
opposed to provincialism. I am Scottish by birth, blood and upbringing
and even went to school in Edinburgh, so as might be expected, I do
know my way around my native country.
>To display their material on a commercial Internet site is even less
>clever. They are partners in Scotland Online who run, among other
>things, a Scottish internet site http://www.scotland.net/ that is in
>direct competion with your own effort.
>
Yes, I'm familiar with the site and we're not in competition as I sell
nothing on my site and they don't either as far as I'm aware. I
realise that your world glorifies scrambling after bawbees, but my
site is strictly for my own amusement and those who care to patronize
it as visitors, not as "pro bono publico" critics.
>To then claim, as you did, that the Broons' and Our Wullie strips on
>your site were "All rights reserved. All content copyright ©
>1997/1998 Měcheil Rob Mac Phŕdruig." was really asking for it.
Mr. Hodge, your image as a pompous and pontificating ass is rapidly
solidifying. The footer in question is automatically placed at the
bottom of all the pages on the site by means of a simple macro. If I'm
losing you with these technical terms, "the program does it". To
suggest that I placed the footer there for my own aggrandisement is
rather juvenile, don't you feel?
>Just as well they've gone really.
Well, at least you're no longer tempted to pick up the phone and drop
a dime, as the Americans say. Has it not yet occurred to you that I
had consulted D C Thompson before I even wrote the original post? I
suppose your reaction in general reflects your own personal values.
> Have you considered becoming a police informer? I understand it pays
> quite well. I suggest this only because public relations doesn't seem
> to be, you know, the _strongest_ card among your many skills.
That's an interesting point of view from someone who urged people to phone
my employers to complain about my use of their internet connection.
> Měcheil Rob Mac Phŕdruig
Paul
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You have more nerve than a tooth ache.
I hope you don't leave us any time soon. True we have become bedeviled
by a few on this ng but all in all it really is enjoyable when I get the
time to read it. Usually there is about 1000 posts to Wade through. I
have really gotten into just deleting everything but the few people I
care to read.
Dave asked me to contace you and ask you to send a copy of the 23 Psalm
and The Lords Prayer in Gaelic. He thought you already had it. If that
would not be too much trouble. BTW, those t shirts should be in the
mail this week.
I wrote to Ian. I wanted to see if he was a real man or just a wanta
be. We shall see.
Other than that what is happening????
S
If I have an excuse, it is long hours at work in combination with long
hours on the road and too little sleep and almost no play time of late.
When I saw once again more sniping between to of the corner posts of
this ng I just lost my patience. Though that is no excuse for my
behavior.
I hope that you will forgive my poor behavior and doing exactly what I
had criticized others for doing.
Again I apologize for my poor judgement and lack of consideration. It
should have never happened.
Sandy
ga...@worldnet.att.net@postoffice.att.net wrote:
> This is to all and sundry.
(snip)
> I hope that you will forgive my poor behavior and doing exactly what I
> had criticized others for doing.
>
> Again I apologize for my poor judgement and lack of consideration. It
> should have never happened.
>
> Sandy
(MacRobert off)
Brava! While I didn't think the offence was all that terrible, it is
admirable of Sandy to retract and offer amends. Sandy, you have set a good
example.
(MacRobert on)
However, I think perhaps a bottle of Talisker would go a long way towards
cementing my own already high opinion of you. Just make sure you use (looks
around to see if MacPackage Opener is listening) UPS. And oh, yes, remove
the label from the box.
MacRobert
Send him nothing , certainly not Talisker or anything else
which is likely to contain alcohol. It's not good for him.
It only encourages him to look around and see if there are
any other sources (preferably free or verra cheep) from which
he can extract some sympathy or comfort (his words).
This is the first time I have noted him come right out and ask
directly for T*l*sk*r, he must be getting worse !
The fact that he now wants it un-labelled is also a bad sign.
I can assure you, it's in his own best interests.
Mr Hamilton's doctor.
On reflection, since the 'heat' in question was actually caused by
Donald Dewar, it was in fact quite inappropriate, and unfair, and I
withdraw it in it's entirety.
In truth I cannot even remember the circumstances that lead to the
creation of the knickname and Mr Lang is probably no more guilty of
economies with the truth than most other politicians.
regards
chic
Ian Stewart wrote in message <3616ad44....@news.dial.pipex.com>...
1) I have to confess, whisper it quietly, I don't like malt whisky !
Not for serious drinking anyway, one is OK from time to time
but I haven't yet found one I can say is my favourite tipple.
That has to be Asbach Uralt weinbrau !
I drink blended scotch, usually Grouse, or, for a change of taste
dark rum.
2) In order to administer the "maintenance dose", logic dictates that
McR and myself would require to be in reasonably close proximity.
So, either I move to Redneck and watch for that choo-choo to
arrive so that I can administer his "medicine" or he comes back
over here. I'm afraid that if he did that, he would settle in
Hamilton as the local laird and that would mean he was only about
two miles away from me.
No, my thoughts were only for my fellow man but in retrospect -
there are limits and if the only solution is to send the bottle to a
third party, well you're closer than me. Want to volunteer ?
-- Ian Stewart
Age and Treachery Overcome Youth and Skill
Ever try Meyers Original Dark or Cruzan Clipper?
>
>2) In order to administer the "maintenance dose", logic dictates that
> McR and myself would require to be in reasonably close proximity.
> So, either I move to Redneck and watch for that choo-choo to
> arrive so that I can administer his "medicine" or he comes back
> over here. I'm afraid that if he did that, he would settle in
> Hamilton as the local laird and that would mean he was only about
> two miles away from me.
>
>No, my thoughts were only for my fellow man but in retrospect -
>there are limits and if the only solution is to send the bottle to a
>third party, well you're closer than me. Want to volunteer ?
Somehow, I think being comtroller of McR's supply of drink could be a
thankless occupation so no I'll not take that 1 step foward and I'll be
watching closely to see if everyone else takes one step back.
>
>-- Ian Stewart
>Age and Treachery Overcome Youth and Skill
>
>
Jim Woodard
It's better to be rich and healthy than poor and sick.
Apologies can get very expensive, in more ways than one.
Sandy
Perhaps if I sent it to you. Then you could dole it out for medicinal puposes only.
(I won't ask who gets the dole.)
Sandy
Great minds, huh? I am afraid I responded similarly. I should have
saved my fingers.
Sandy
Only the second? I thought it was more than that.
I must be mixing him up with Chic.
georgette
Methinks another Ian, Ian.
georgette
snicker.
>And yes,
>it's nice to see the group get back to some semblance of what we
>laughingly call "normality".
>
>Ian (not the grizzled one. Well, not much.)
Yes, the normal set of grouchy Scots.
;-)
georgette
>Derrek,
>Have you paid for "all" the software on "your" computer?
>I have yet to meet anyone who has.
>Lets chuck unnecessary fear out the window.
Actually, John, I have paid for "all" the software that
actually cost something. Freeware is freeware,
the rest is the hard work of someone who should
be paid. So your point really doesn't make any sense.
georgette
> My point was double standards.
ah, point taken then. i had no idea how software
and The Broons related.
>Do you manage
> to get hold of Oor Wullie and the Broons"
> where you are?
Right at the moment, I am in the
Eastern US. I only manage it when
I go to Scotland and a friend
saves interesting things for me.
georgette
Ian Stewart wrote:
> Sandy,
>
> Send him nothing , certainly not Talisker or anything else
> which is likely to contain alcohol. It's not good for him.
>
> It only encourages him to look around and see if there are
> any other sources (preferably free or verra cheep) from which
> he can extract some sympathy or comfort (his words).
>
> This is the first time I have noted him come right out and ask
> directly for T*l*sk*r, he must be getting worse !
>
> The fact that he now wants it un-labelled is also a bad sign.
>
> I can assure you, it's in his own best interests.
>
> Mr Hamilton's doctor.
>
You're fired, you quack! And by the way I've been meaning to discuss your
so-called "bedside manner" the guid wife has been on about whenever I get back
from my trips.
>I wrote to Ian. I wanted to see if he was a real man or just a wanta
>be. We shall see.
Hmm. Your other private-email-that-became-a-post
dealt with the same thing. Let me lay your worries to
rest. I have met IanM for lunch once or twice and
he appears quite male to me. (I think this is the Ian
you mean?). You can usually tell from the neck and
the wrist, but in his case I don't think a woman would
EVER want to look like him! Sorry Ian! (i now
duck and cover head with small dog to deflect incoming)
He is quite museumish, matter of fact. Hey, I am
sure if you are ever in Edinburgh, he would be happy
to meet you for lunch too! Just go to the museum
on Chambers Street, enter (you have to pay!), and
walk to the big information desk in front of you and
ask for him. It takes a while for him to appear from
the labyrinth, but he does eventually. However,
don't ask him to give you a tour of the museum,
he has NO idea what goes on in there. They
are building a new wing, should be open in November?
(is the Queen still on for a visit?) and it looks
quite exciting...mostly Scottish stuff will be
displayed ( I think). I am sure he would give
you a tour there.
Hey, I would have emailed this to you but
you won't let me email you!
Wanting to clear up all misconceptions...
georgette
>Other than that what is happening????
Not much.
>. Also, I don't wish to
>> develop a reputation for being "difficult".
>
>You have more nerve than a tooth ache.
>
>I hope you don't leave us any time soon. True we have become bedeviled
>by a few on this ng but all in all it really is enjoyable when I get the
>time to read it. Usually there is about 1000 posts to Wade through. I
>have really gotten into just deleting everything but the few people I
>care to read.
That's very kind of you. In fact several people emailed me in a
similar vein, proving that bad taste is a universal phenomenon...
>Dave asked me to contace you and ask you to send a copy of the 23 Psalm
>and The Lords Prayer in Gaelic. He thought you already had it. If that
>would not be too much trouble. BTW, those t shirts should be in the
>mail this week.
Emailed as per instructions. I also included Amazing Grace as you
originally asked for the Gaelic Psalm, (which I have heard it called
from time to time) so I assumed that was what you wanted.
>I wrote to Ian. I wanted to see if he was a real man or just a wanta
>be. We shall see.
>
>Other than that what is happening????
>
Work and more work. The curse of the drinking classes. However, money
is trickling in, so all is not lost!
>In article <361444c9...@news.whidbey.com>, mik...@whidbey.com
>(Micheil Rob Mac Phŕdruig) wrote:
>
>> Have you considered becoming a police informer? I understand it pays
>> quite well. I suggest this only because public relations doesn't seem
>> to be, you know, the _strongest_ card among your many skills.
>
>That's an interesting point of view from someone who urged people to phone
>my employers to complain about my use of their internet connection.
>
Correction, Paul - I urged people to call your employer to compliment
him on having an employee who worked such long hours without being
paid for them - a splendid example of the sort of spirit sorely needed
if Scotland is to maintain economic parity with the rest of the world.
Yet nobody even bothered to phone. People are so ungrateful.
What's all this about. I presume it's another Ian - but it really sticks in
the craw to see anyone apologizing to that old fake, "Patterson".
Ian
>>I wrote to Ian. I wanted to see if he was a real man or just a wanta
>>be. We shall see.
I don't know what a "real man" is like in Texan terms (though I have
pretty good idea that it must involve riding on horseback with short
hair and waving a huge weapon) but I'm definitely male. Just a minute
while I check that again....
Can a "real man" prefer something other than Talisker? If so, a bottle
of nice Bruichladdich (10 year old would be fine) would help to
ameliorate my bruised ego and accept your apology. Trouble is I can't
figure out what you're apologising for.....
<georgette replied>
>
> Hmm. Your other private-email-that-became-a-post
> dealt with the same thing. Let me lay your worries to
> rest. I have met IanM for lunch once or twice and
> he appears quite male to me. (I think this is the Ian
> you mean?). You can usually tell from the neck and
> the wrist, but in his case I don't think a woman would
> EVER want to look like him! Sorry Ian! (i now
> duck and cover head with small dog to deflect incoming)
> He is quite museumish, matter of fact. Hey, I am
> sure if you are ever in Edinburgh, he would be happy
> to meet you for lunch too! Just go to the museum
> on Chambers Street, enter (you have to pay!), and
> walk to the big information desk in front of you and
> ask for him. It takes a while for him to appear from
> the labyrinth, but he does eventually.
That is all quite correct, though I do absent myself from time to time,
especially as two thirds of work time is spent working for another
organisation. Details of all that, a copy of my diary for the next few
weeks, and so forth, are all available at
www2.scran.ac.uk/staff/ianm/index.htm
A phone call in advance is usually advisable, and if you're just coming
to see me, you don't have to pay.
> However,
> don't ask him to give you a tour of the museum,
> he has NO idea what goes on in there. They
> are building a new wing, should be open in November?
It is not "a new wing" it is The Museum of Scotland. On no account call
it "the extension" or "the new wing" ;-) Its opening has been described
(admittedly by our management) as "the most important cultural event of
the century". It will open on November 30th this year.
> (is the Queen still on for a visit?)
Yes, as far as I know. She doesn't keep me informed of her minute-by-
minute schedules, however.
>and it looks
> quite exciting...mostly Scottish stuff will be
> displayed ( I think). I am sure he would give
> you a tour there.
Hmmm. I can't even find my way round the existing building, let alone
the new one, but I would do my best.
PS I have no idea why MP dislikes me so much, before you ask. I can't
say that worrying about it keeps me awake at night, though.
--
Ian O. Morrison
>Yes, I'm familiar with the site and we're not in competition as I sell
>nothing on my site and they don't either as far as I'm aware. I
>realise that your world glorifies scrambling after bawbees, but my
>site is strictly for my own amusement and those who care to patronize
>it as visitors, not as "pro bono publico" critics.
>
That will be why you have a rate card for advertising banners then,
starting ar $5 a go. Seems a bit expensive to me so perhaps you're
telling the truth when you say you don't sell anything. The banners
that are on the site already, did you give them away?
>>To then claim, as you did, that the Broons' and Our Wullie strips on
>>your site were "All rights reserved. All content copyright ©
>>1997/1998 Měcheil Rob Mac Phŕdruig." was really asking for it.
>
>Mr. Hodge, your image as a pompous and pontificating ass is rapidly
>solidifying. The footer in question is automatically placed at the
>bottom of all the pages on the site by means of a simple macro. If I'm
>losing you with these technical terms, "the program does it". To
>suggest that I placed the footer there for my own aggrandisement is
>rather juvenile, don't you feel?
>
So you've automated the process by which you spout nonsense. Isn't
technology wonderful.
Derek Hodge (der...@post.almac.co.uk>
> On 3 Oct 1998 13:05:08 GMT, "ga...@worldnet.att.net"@postoffice.att.net
> wrote:
> >. Also, I don't wish to
> >> develop a reputation for being "difficult".
> >
> >You have more nerve than a tooth ache.
> >
> >I hope you don't leave us any time soon. True we have become bedeviled
> >by a few on this ng but all in all it really is enjoyable when I get the
> >time to read it. Usually there is about 1000 posts to Wade through. I
> >have really gotten into just deleting everything but the few people I
> >care to read.
> That's very kind of you. In fact several people emailed me in a
> similar vein, proving that bad taste is a universal phenomenon...
> >Dave asked me to contace you and ask you to send a copy of the 23 Psalm
> >and The Lords Prayer in Gaelic. He thought you already had it. If that
> >would not be too much trouble. BTW, those t shirts should be in the
> >mail this week.
> Emailed as per instructions. I also included Amazing Grace as you
> originally asked for the Gaelic Psalm, (which I have heard it called
> from time to time) so I assumed that was what you wanted.
> >I wrote to Ian. I wanted to see if he was a real man or just a wanta
> >be. We shall see.
> >
> >Other than that what is happening????
> >
> Work and more work. The curse of the drinking classes. However, money
> is trickling in, so all is not lost!
I would have posted support also Mike but as in theory I am also
trying to kick the habit for work reasons..........
Bloody hard though when there are such pickings isn't it?, reminds me
of kite flying, trying to see how many you can keep in the air at
once...or plate spinning, that's it, plate spinning.
I think their all up to max. revs. now so I'll leave for a month or
two before I come back to give them another tweak.
Keep them spinning Mike, I'll pay for any breakages.
regards
chic
| On Fri, 02 Oct 1998 10:06:29 GMT, g...@edinburgh.almac.co.uk (Derek
| Hodge) wrote:
|
|
| Derrek,
| Have you paid for "all" the software on "your" computer?
| I have yet to meet anyone who has.
I have - on both of them. You assume rather a lot.
| Lets chuck unnecessary fear out the window.
It's nothing to do with 'uneccessary fear' - the issue would probably have been
dropped had Michael Patterson not tried to bluff it out, dropped one clanger
after another and ended up looking a trifle foolish.
The first time, everyone said what a fine fellow you are, but I didn't.
I'd just like to take the opportunity to say ...
... o bugger, the phone's ringing.
[insert suitable valedictory speech]
--
Michael Wade
>> However,
>> don't ask him to give you a tour of the museum,
>> he has NO idea what goes on in there. They
>> are building a new wing, should be open in November?
>
>It is not "a new wing" it is The Museum of Scotland. On no account call
>it "the extension" or "the new wing" ;-) Its opening has been described
>(admittedly by our management) as "the most important cultural event of
>the century". It will open on November 30th this year.
I sit corrected. ;-)
georgette
>Have you paid for "all" the software on "your" computer?
>I have yet to meet anyone who has.
>Lets chuck unnecessary fear out the window.
>
We've never met, but I've paid for all the software on my computer.
Moreover, I'm up to date with my tax and VAT.
What has shocked me, since I bought my new super-duper PC lst year, is
th number of people, like you, who come waltzing in asking to copy my
software. Some of them I hardly know. I was thinking of publishing a
list of their names and addresses here, and then asking lawyers from
Microsoft Corporation whether they thought it was a good idea for these
people to try to obtain their programs in this criminal way.
I wouldn't be shopping them you understand, merely asking a question of
those Microsoft bods.
As a matter of fact, it's in other areas where my own morality is
somewhat lax. I don't want to talk much further about it, but is there
any chance that you could send me an inflatable kangaroo, mate?
--
Michael Wade
>Correction, Paul - I urged people to call your employer to compliment
>him on having an employee who worked such long hours without being
>paid for them - a splendid example of the sort of spirit sorely needed
>if Scotland is to maintain economic parity with the rest of the world.
>
Parity? We want better than parity you traitorous bastard.
--
Michael Wade
snipped to:
>As a matter of fact, it's in other areas where my own morality is
>somewhat lax. I don't want to talk much further about it, but is there
>any chance that you could send me an inflatable kangaroo, mate?
Oh for........ Mike!
<Wiping coffee out of keyboard and off monitor> I hope
you're satisfied, Wade. I'll now be humming "Tie Me
Kangaroo down, Sport" for the rest of the day! For that, I
hope you're a posted a duckbill platypu... oh never mind!
<...mumble...mumble>
Sorry, You were talking about free software? Well... there
was that incident of reformatting a couple aol and
compuserve diskettes, but I swear they came in the post! I
also demand to speak my attorney before going into anymore
detail.
R.
As we all get older, we have a tendency to remember what
happened in the past in the way we wished we had done
it, not exactly as it happened. I have done this many times
myself, being the old person that I am. I think Micheil
wished he had only done the above, but it was entrapped
with the following - it was taken by many of other posters as an
invitation to call Pauls' employer with complaints about his
use of the internet. Also is included was a posting
from another user discussing this issue...
Anyway, I think Paul you now understand that Micheil
really meant to have people call your employer with
compliments for your work, and anything else said
was done with the heat of the moment.
Taken from DejaNews...
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Re: Bad attitude of the English more options
Author: Micheil Rob Mac Phŕdruig
Email: mik...@whidbey.com
Date: 1998/05/04
Forums: alt.nuke.the.USA, soc.culture.british, soc.culture.scottish, soc.culture.irish
I also understand from one of the latest postings in this group that
you are being paid by your employer while you write this whining
nonsense and that he is unaware of your private arrangement whereby
instead of getting the day's work for a day's pay that he has the
legal and moral right to expect, he is buying your leisure time on
s.c.s. If this is true, then you are not only committing a breach of
trust; you are also a thief.
Having watched your behaviour on this group for some time,
(this goes on but is not pertinent to the point)
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Re: Bad attitude of the English more options
Author: Micheil Rob Mac Phŕdruig
Email: mik...@whidbey.com
Date: 1998/05/04
Forums: alt.nuke.the.USA, soc.culture.british, soc.culture.scottish, soc.culture.irish
Your record of unpaid work for your company makes you one of the great
philanthropists of our time. Given Britain's constant struggle to
upgrade the economy, this outstanding dedication to duty has truly
moved me. Anyone wishing to contact Paul's boss at Memex Technology
Ltd. (or Memex Inc. in the USA; I'm sure they'll be only too happy
forward your message) to express admiration for his superb exampleshould call:
(*numbers listed*)
Why bother - I imagine your boss will be only too happy to indulge you
when you're working for free, even to the extent of paying for the
phone time for downloading, etc.
Měcheil Rob MacPhŕdruig
Sgiůrsair nan Gall
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On Thu, 28 May 1998 12:53:14 +0100, Joseph Finlay
<jos...@jfinl.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>You mean the campaign between you and Macp and others to smear Ian
>Johnstone over comments he did not make. Let us also not forget the
>prompting by you and others for SCS readers to inform on Paul Sammy for
>using his firm's internet account. I also remember the fiasco some
>months ago when Macp wrongly accused someone in this group of hacking
>his web site.
>
What a total asshole you are, Finlay. Other than being a wife-beater
and an abuser of women, a man whose divorce judge was sharp enough to
pick up on the above, an habitue of porn sites, a foul-mouthed boor
and as we now see, a nil-brain, why are you still here? If you need
help to end your worthless life, I'll be happy to email you specific
instructions as to how you may achieve that commendable goal.
You're garbage. Go find a pond to drown yourself in.
Měcheil Rob Mac Phŕdruig
: It is not "a new wing" it is The Museum of Scotland. On no account call
: it "the extension" or "the new wing" ;-)
Does that mean there will be a Royal Museum of Scotland and a Museum of
Scotland next to each other, or are you going to rename the original bit?
In which case, can I suggest "Royal Scottish Museum" as having a nice
ring to it?@
: Its opening has been described
: (admittedly by our management) as "the most important cultural event of
: the century". It will open on November 30th this year.
I'm dying to see if it does. I noticed when passing it late at night last
week that there is still a heck of a lot of unfinished concrete visible
inside (though that could of course have been the architect's intention)
and that it was being worked on although the time was close to midnight.
A touch of panic, perhaps ... ?
Ian
: Parity? We want better than parity you traitorous bastard.
It's my parity,
And I'll dance if I wanna...
Ian
DOn't ride h-back, no boots, short hair..not always, but....wave
big wapon...yep...ego-on-hi..yep...Taxun...yep.
WAyne mc
Hell I thought those things were coasters with adverts on them.
You mean they were *software*? They look nothing like my 5.5 inch
floppies..........
And they tell me there is a DOS *3* on the market.............
PS Who *is* Bill Gates?
>but I swear they came in the post! I
>also demand to speak my attorney before going into anymore
>detail.
>
>R.
Bryn Fraser
glůinean geal
>In article <36153c6c...@mq.edu.au>, John Crighton
><jcri...@sia.net.au> writes
>
>>Have you paid for "all" the software on "your" computer?
>>I have yet to meet anyone who has.
>>Lets chuck unnecessary fear out the window.
>>
>We've never met, but I've paid for all the software on my computer.
>Moreover, I'm up to date with my tax and VAT.
>
>What has shocked me, since I bought my new super-duper PC lst year, is
>th number of people, like you, who come waltzing in asking to copy my
>software. Some of them I hardly know. I was thinking of publishing a
>list of their names and addresses here, and then asking lawyers from
>Microsoft Corporation whether they thought it was a good idea for these
>people to try to obtain their programs in this criminal way.
>
>I wouldn't be shopping them you understand, merely asking a question of
>those Microsoft bods.
>
>As a matter of fact, it's in other areas where my own morality is
>somewhat lax. I don't want to talk much further about it, but is there
>any chance that you could send me an inflatable kangaroo, mate?
>
>--
>Michael Wade
Hello Michael and all,
Pleased to meet you Michael.
How much money do you think Mr Gates
would want for dos6 and win3.1?
Did you get a scanner with your super duper computer?
If so, perhaps you could scan Oor Wullie and send it to me
direct via E- mail as a binary attachment.
That would be great!!!! :)
Or send it to this newsgroup if thats OK with our legal man Derek ??
One orifice or two in the inflatable?
>: Its opening has been described
>: (admittedly by our management) as "the most important cultural event of
>: the century".
Sounds like Whatsisname, Tallow and Semen are handling the
publicity...
So much for the rescue of the statues at Abu Simbel...
Well I guess your craw's used to having things stuck in it.
Mr Wade, stop messing about, go for the *genuine* article.
Rolf Harris
Tie me kangaroo down sport
Trips! Trips he said, well that's one way of putting it. Not exactly
what I would describe as the correct medical term for his absence.
Collapsed behind the outhouse because of "drink taken".
We knew where *he* was but as far as he was concerned,
the world had gone away - *for a week* !!!
Ray Milland ain't got nothin' on this kiddo, believe me.
Mr Hamilton's ex-medical advisor.
Soon to appear near you with his travelling medicine show.
>On Sun, 04 Oct 1998 21:39:00 GMT, jcri...@sia.net.au (John Crighton)
>wrote:
>
>> One man tries to bring a little warmth and a laugh
>> to faraway Scots by showing "oor Wullie."
>> and Derick is taking all the fun away by such
>> a nit picking attitude.
>> So who on s.c.s.cares if it is not perfectly legal?
>> I am in Australia, Georgette. Do you manage
>> to get hold of Oor Wullie and the Broons"
>> where you are?
>> Lets have fun, not sour grapes.
>> Where can I read this famous comic strip
>> on the internet?
>>
C'mon Mike, play fair (for once ?)
>I don't believe you can, John. And of course, Derek is merely
>exercising his right as a Central Belt Scot, that is, to ensure that
>anyone having a little fun anywhere should be stopped as soon as
>possible by any and all means.
That's a very broad brush statement from someone who has taken
issue with similar statements, made by others, in the past.
>
>The codewords "John Knox" will perhaps make my meaning clear...
There are not too many "wee frees" in this neck of the woods.
>
>In view of all the brouhaha about this matter, I have been considering
>removing everything from the site of the remotest interest or
>especially anything which might cause amusement, and replacing it with
>portions of the Shorter Catechism; in Gaelic of course, to increase
>the boredom and punishment. I'm busily writing a macro for s.c.s.
>which will automatically shunt readers there and lock their computers
>on the page for 20 minutes before being freed to return here.
>
And exactly which part of the watching is the punishment ?
The Gaelic Catechism or 20 minutes on s.c.s. ?
Martin Luther
> >Sorry, You were talking about free software? Well... >there was
> that incident of reformatting a couple aol and
> >compuserve diskettes,
>
> Hell I thought those things were coasters with adverts on them.
>
> You mean they were *software*? They look nothing like my 5.5 inch
> floppies..........
>
> And they tell me there is a DOS *3* on the market.............
>
> PS Who *is* Bill Gates?
The antichrist.
Faolchú Gaelach
"Whatshername"
> On Sat, 03 Oct 1998 11:28:05 BST, Solomon Paul Sammy
> <s...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >In article <361444c9...@news.whidbey.com>, mik...@whidbey.com
> >(Micheil Rob Mac Phŕdruig) wrote:
> >
> >> Have you considered becoming a police informer? I >> understand it pays
> quite well. I suggest this only because >> public relations doesn't seem to
> be, you know, the >> _strongest_ card among your many skills.
> >
> >That's an interesting point of view from someone who > >urged people to
> phone my employers to complain about >my use of their internet connection.
> >
> Correction, Paul - I urged people to call your employer to compliment him on
> having an employee who worked such long hours without being paid for them - a
> splendid example of the sort of spirit sorely needed if Scotland is to
> maintain economic parity with the rest of the world.
>
> Yet nobody even bothered to phone. People are so ungrateful.
But, but... I've been *busy*! I mean, it's not my fault!
Oh, allllll riiiight...
Faolchú Gaelach
"I have to do *every*thing around here..."
Micheil, Why didn't you just let her sleep? She probably will stay up after
you go to bed and burn your nice Windows Logo rug.
Jim
Oh, hi, Cailin, Nice wolfie.
>
>
>Faolchú Gaelach
>"Whatshername"
>
>
(affectionate) Snarl... (I just LOVE a man *out* of uniform...)
Is that your groin at my eye level, dear?
Doin' any *reading* lately, hmmmm?
Faolchú Gaelach
"...The jaws that hold, the claws that catch of the Frumius Bandersnatch..."
> >That's an interesting point of view from someone who urged people to
> phone
> >my employers to complain about my use of their internet connection.
> >
> Correction, Paul - I urged people to call your employer to compliment
> him on having an employee who worked such long hours without being
> paid for them - a splendid example of the sort of spirit sorely needed
> if Scotland is to maintain economic parity with the rest of the world.
Is this flimsy smokescreen the best you can do?
> Yet nobody even bothered to phone.
How do you know?
>People are so ungrateful.
> Měcheil Rob Mac Phŕdruig
Paul
... I am the Mask of Borg, "Assimilatin'!"
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>Claims that all his software is legit and genuine and in the next
>breath asks for an *inflatable* kangaroo ?
>
>Mr Wade, stop messing about, go for the *genuine* article.
>
>Rolf Harris
>Tie me kangaroo down sport
Damn it, Rolf! It's almost midnight and I just got
Rusty to stop singing that. Thanx pal.
Lars
Lars & Rusty wrote:
> On Mon, 05 Oct 1998 23:50:55 GMT, ian.s...@dial.pipex.com
> (Ian Stewart) wrote:
>
> >Claims that all his software is legit and genuine and in the next
> >breath asks for an *inflatable* kangaroo ?
> >
> >Mr Wade, stop messing about, go for the *genuine* article.
> >
> >Rolf Harris
> >Tie me kangaroo down sport
Amen! Once you've had Joey you never go back....
>
>
> Damn it, Rolf! It's almost midnight and I just got
> Rusty to stop singing that. Thanx pal.
>
> Lars
Well heya, Lars! Try getting her to hum instead.
$10 for the d*mn good advice, please.
Dr. MacRuth