Akins vs Foonly: The 2000 International Ignorance Contest.
Jon Croft
The following is highlight coverage of the year 2000
International Ignorance Contest, brought to you by
BBC Sport. Now, to Edinburgh, Scotland and our
announcer, Nigel Bundy.
Nigel: Well, good evening everybody, and welcome to our ignorance
contest. Before we meet our finalists, I'd like to introduce our guest
analyst. He was the Vice-President of the United States, and his
spelling of "potatoe" has made him quite a legend with the ignorant
around the world. Please welcome Dan Quail!
Dan: It's great to be here in England, Nigel.
Nigel: Umm, we're in Edinburgh, Scotland, Mr. Vice-President.
Dan: Really? Well, me and the wife flew into London so we could go to
the shops around Big Ben, and no one has asked for our passport since
Heathrow... I figured we were still in England.
Nigel: Yes... Well, now to our contestants: Our European contestant is
from right here in Scotland. His name is William Peter Nisbet, but he
goes by the name "Foonly". He is a third year computer science student
ar Heriot-Watt, and he became a finalist by including the following on
the CV available at his web site: "Worked on the delicatessen as a
sales assistant. In one of safeways out of town centres. Develop good
communication skills:
With customers.
With peer group.
With management."
Dan: My, that *is* ignorant. Why didn't he make the first two lines a
single sentence? I don't see why he needed the period in there.
And shouldn't it have been "*Developed* good communication skills"?
Nigel: Quite right, Dan. It was extremely poor sentence structure,
especially when bragging about the communication skills he aquired...
At the Deli... Excuse, me, I need a drink of water... There that's
better. Now, to our American contestant, Steven Akins of that Ilk.
He became a finalist by starting a Clan no one has ever heard of, then
arguing that he wants nothing to do with the Lord Lyon, then bragging
about his application being before the very same Lord Lyon he wanted
nothing to do with.
Dan: I don't think I understand...
Nigel: That's ok Mr. Vice-President, none of the rest of us understand
either. That's why he's here. Let's have a few words with our
contestants before we begin. So tell us Foonly, how does it feel to be
here?
Foonly: Well, Nigel I'm honoured. I know there are a lot of ignorant
people in the world, so it's thrilling to be recognized as one of the
best.
Dan: I'd like to say how happy I am to meet you, young man.
Foonly: You're an American, aren't you? I've seen you guys on the
television, and I think you're right bastards. Especially you hyphen
ones what want to take my culture from me.
Nigel: Now, Foonly, I think you should save your ignorance for the
competetion. No sense in wearing yourself out early.
Foonly: I was only warming up, Nigel. If I go out there without a
warmup I'm likely to pull a brain muscle. It's tough being ignorant at
the international level.
Nigel: You're quite right, Foonly. Good luck. Now let's meet our other
contestant, shall we? Welcome to the show, Steven.
Steven: Thank's for having me. I'm really glad that the two people
covering this contest are white, you know. It just makes me feel more
comfortable.
Nigel: Well, thank you, Steven. I can see why you're here tonight.
It looks like our lad Foonly will have an uphill battle against
Steven, eh Mr. Vice-President?
Dan: Ummm, quite so, Nigel. I don't think *I* ever said anything that
ignorant.
Nigel: Don't feel bad, Mr. Vice-President, these are professionals.
Now, I'm sure we're all anxious to get started, so let's hear from our
lad Foonly:
Foonly:
>Another thing that pisses me off is American (USA) citizens that call
>themselves Scottish-Americans, you're not Scottish, you are Americans. I'll
>let any Canadians off as they are at least citizens of a Commonwealth
>country.
>Irish-Americans are worse just because their great-great-great grandmother
>worked in a whore house when some Irish farm hand dropped by for some fun. I
>maybe complaining about Scottish-Americans however the Irish-American
>problem is 100 times worse.
Nigel: That's quite a start, Mr. Vice-President, but I'm afraid he
won't be able to keep up that pace. Your thoughts?
Dan: It was really quite well done, and I think he's thrown the
gauntlet down for Steven. It will be tough to be more ignorant than
that.
Nigel: It's Steven's turn now, so let's see how he responds.
Steven:
>Yes, I believe that different races of people do exist, I do not believe
>that we are all one big happy family. I like variety, not some mud-colored
>world where everyone is the same mongrel mixture. I rather like things the
>way nature intended. You seem to want to slide off into some great
>sludge-heap with everyone else, well, go on then.
Nigel: My goodness that *is* ignorant! Doesn't he realize that *all*
Europeans are "mongrels" to one degree or another? Do you suppose he's
ever bothered to read about the historic migration of peoples
throughout Europe? Do you suppose he believes that this intermingling
took place in a vacuum, and that *he* is somehow "pure"?
Dan: Gee, Nigel what are you talking about? I thought all the French
people came from France, and that Scottishers were from Scotland-land,
and like that.
Nigel: Nevermind, Mr. Vice-President, it's all rather complicated.
Let's see how Foonly responds to that ignorance from Steven.
Foonly:
>Hyphenated Scots are cultural parasites not giving anything to the society
>to which the claim allegiance. They dilute the definition of Scottish so
>anybody with a tenuous link to Scotland can define themselves as Scottish.
>Scotland is not defined by hyphenated Scots however the term
>Scottish-(insert other nationality here i.e. Americans) detracts from the
>definition of Scottishness.
Dan: Gee, Nigel, that doesn't make any sense... How could hyphenated
Scots "detract from the definition of Scottishness"?
Nigel: I'm not sure, Mr. Vice-President, but it's a pleasure to watch
these lads work. I never thought I would see such skill at being
ignorant. It's now Steven's turn, and then we go to the judging.
Steven:
>You have to understand that America is a country of many different and
>diverse cultures and races. Not all Americans are of British origin, we have
>just as many who are of Mexican, African, Italian, Polish, Chinese, Jewish
>or what have you. It certainly doesnt suprise me that one in five Americans
>couldn't find the U.S. on a world map, we are not a nation of Scots after
>all, you have to make allowance for the other races.
Nigel: Well, that will certainly make the judging difficult... How do
you think this contest will turn out, Mr. Vice-President?
Dan: Gee, Nigel, I don't know... They were both so ignorant, it's
going to be really hard to pick a winner.
Nigel: Quite so, Mr. Vice-President... Hold on, I've just been handed
a note that the judges have walked out in protest due to the appalling
level of ignorance! It looks like this battle will have to be fought
all over again! You can be sure that when the ignorance resumes,
the BBC will be covering it. This is Nigel Bundy, wishing you a good
evening.
This program produced by:
Jon Croft
blue...@prodigy.net
Ian O. Morrison
I suspect he has been at the drinks cabinet again. Any fule kno that
under the affluence of incohol one's Ignorance Quotient goes through
the roof, so a drugs test should be instigated and if Foonly tests
positive, as I suspect "he" will, he should be barred from any further
part in these Games.
--
Ian O. Morrison
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Bryn Fraser
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WooooH Haaaaaaaaa! Way to go..................
<croak...
shite....
ALIXGUNN
Perspective at last!!!!!
Thank you, Jon!
Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk
Jon Croft wrote in message <38f6d86c....@nntp.we.mediaone.net>...
LOL! I must admit that even I enjoyed a guid laugh in reading the coverage
of the Foonley vs. Akins debate! I would that I had your gift of humor.
Steven Akins of that Ilk
sja...@sonet.net
Shawn Kilpatrick
> International Ignorance Contest, brought to you by
> BBC Sport. Now, to Edinburgh, Scotland and our
> announcer, Nigel Bundy.
<brilliance snipped>
Sir, you are my hero. :)
SK
Ignoramus
ISP to have this message removed. I'll then sue you
for deformation of character.
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Peter William Nisbet
http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~cstpwn/"Jon Croft" <blue...@prodigy.net> wrote in
message news:38f6d86c....@nntp.we.mediaone.net...
Moses Lambert
news:OgEU8BAh...@finhall.demon.co.uk...
> <croak...
> shite...
Now, now, Bryn, don't strain yourself.
Leo B.
>
> The following is highlight coverage of the year 2000
> International Ignorance Contest, brought to you by
> BBC Sport. Now, to Edinburgh, Scotland and our
> announcer, Nigel Bundy.
>
> Nigel: Well, good evening everybody, and welcome to our ignorance
> contest. Before we meet our finalists, I'd like to introduce our guest
> analyst. He was the Vice-President of the United States, and his
> spelling of "potatoe" has made him quite a legend with the ignorant
> around the world. Please welcome Dan Quail!
<large snip of brilliant writing -- absolutely see the original>
Four week ago, I returned from a trip to Scotland. After scanning the
titles of the 400+ e-mails waiting, I decided to see what had been
happening in Soc.Culture.Scottish. Yee Gods!!! Almost 6000 messages --
what had happened??? Was there some monumental debate going on? Had the
whole world joined S.C.S.???? But, as I went through some of the
postings, I was dismayed [or was that "disapriled"??]. A lot of tripe
from posters I don't remember as regulars on S.C.S. Tripe??? No, that's
not fair to say....not fair to tripe that is. Oh, I would look for the
names I knew would post intelligent comments but.....they were few and
far between. It seemed that S.C.S. had morphed into a slanging match
among a small group of ill-mannered, ill-educated folks with way too
much time on their hands [and on their keyboards].
But..........salvation.............a short while ago I read Jon's latest
creation as I sipped my Bunnahabhain. Thank you Jon; S.C.S. is indeed
alive and well and intelligent and creative. This is a keeper for my
S.C.S. File.
McLeo
P.S. to everyone: read the original...........
2nd P.S. I'll have to write a few notes about my trip, including my
meeting up with a true S.C.S. gentleman. [That ought to have everyone
scratching their heads :-)].
Duncan
<snip>
>2nd P.S. I'll have to write a few notes about my trip, including my
>meeting up with a true S.C.S. gentleman. [That ought to have everyone
>scratching their heads :-)].
Gawd, was that YOU?
-DDM
True s.c.s. Gentleman.......................
(who, for the record, has got everyone's 1999 tax returns filed *on
time*...and who will be crawling happily into a bottle for the
weekend)
Jon Croft
<sja...@sonet.net> wrote:
>
>Jon Croft wrote in message <38f6d86c....@nntp.we.mediaone.net>...
>
>
>LOL! I must admit that even I enjoyed a guid laugh in reading the coverage
>of the Foonley vs. Akins debate! I would that I had your gift of humor.
Well, the ability to laugh at yourself denotes a lack of an
inferiority complex, which is the hallmark of most racists. I am
encouraged by your response, although somewhat dissappointed that we
won't get into the flame war I was so looking forward to.
Jon Croft
blue...@prodigy.net
Jon Croft
<ian_o_m...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>I've seen pictures of that Foonly and his eyes seem terribly bloodshot.
>I suspect he has been at the drinks cabinet again. Any fule kno that
>under the affluence of incohol one's Ignorance Quotient goes through
>the roof, so a drugs test should be instigated and if Foonly tests
>positive, as I suspect "he" will, he should be barred from any further
>part in these Games.
If you had bother to read the rule book, Ian, you would see that huge
consumption of alcohol is mandatory for true competetive ignorance. A
brief walk through a Glaswegian pub would confirm this.
Jon Croft
blue...@prodigy.net
Jon Croft
wrote:
>How dare you call be ignorant. I'll be contacting your
>ISP to have this message removed. I'll then sue you
>for deformation of character.
I'm sorry, Foonly, but we haven't started yet... You must try and hold
back until the whistle blows, which signals the start of the ignorance
contest.
Jon Croft
blue...@prodigy.net
Jon Croft
>2nd P.S. I'll have to write a few notes about my trip, including my
>meeting up with a true S.C.S. gentleman. [That ought to have everyone
>scratching their heads :-)].
I think it's a rather short list, to be sure... My guesses, in no
particular order:
Ian O. Morrison
chic MacGregor
Bryn Fraser
ummmm....
Jon Croft
blue...@prodigy.net
Ian Morrison
blue...@prodigy.net (Jon Croft) wrote:
>Ian O. Morrison
>chic MacGregor
I object to being included on a list of "gentlemen" that
includes a MacGregor! A contradiction in terms, I think you must
agree.......
Ian Morrison
http://homestead.deja.com/user.ian_o_morrison/index.html
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Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk
Jon Croft wrote in message <38f78912....@news.randori.com>...
>On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 08:46:11 -0000, "Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk"
><sja...@sonet.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>Jon Croft wrote in message <38f6d86c....@nntp.we.mediaone.net>...
>>
>>
>>LOL! I must admit that even I enjoyed a guid laugh in reading the coverage
>>of the Foonley vs. Akins debate! I would that I had your gift of humor.
>
>inferiority complex, which is the hallmark of most racists. I am
>encouraged by your response, although somewhat dissappointed that we
>won't get into the flame war I was so looking forward to.
There are probably a lot of things which I don't have in common with most
people you would catagorize as "racist", and inferiority complexes are only
one of them. You must understand that I don't wish any ill for anyone of a
different race, in fact I probably wish better things for them (education,
enviroment, lifestyle, etc.) than they do for themselves. I'm just not a
bleeding hyppocrite who says one thing and feels another. I speak my mind,
and if any take exception with what I believe, they are free to say so, but
it doesn't necessarily mean that they are right and I am wrong (or
vice-versa). After all, opinions are like belly-buttons - everyone has one,
and no one's is worth any more than anyone else's.
"Oh what a gift the giftie gie us,
Tae see oorsel's as ither's see us!"
Jon Croft
<sja...@sonet.net> wrote:
>Jon Croft wrote in message <38f78912....@news.randori.com>...
>>Well, the ability to laugh at yourself denotes a lack of an
>>inferiority complex, which is the hallmark of most racists. I am
>>encouraged by your response, although somewhat dissappointed that we
>>won't get into the flame war I was so looking forward to.
>There are probably a lot of things which I don't have in common with most
>people you would catagorize as "racist", and inferiority complexes are only
>one of them. You must understand that I don't wish any ill for anyone of a
>different race, in fact I probably wish better things for them (education,
>enviroment, lifestyle, etc.) than they do for themselves. I'm just not a
>bleeding hyppocrite who says one thing and feels another.
Well, I admit that your racial views are not at the extreme end of the
spectrum, but I still would disagree with your stance. Having lived in
the Los Angeles area my entire life, I can see how a casual observer
might attribute various social problems to specific races, but I
believe you are missing a key indicator. Do these races exhibit the
same negaitive tendencies in their home countries? For example, you
have given a list of negative traits associated with blacks, such as
criminality, lack of family responsibility, and so forth. Are these
traits common in Africa? I would say no... My opinion is that the
African family structure is stronger than that of many "whites" in the
United States, and that crime rates in Africa are lower than many
"white" countries, such as Russia. If you agree that these traits do
not apply to their native homelands, then how can you attribute it to
race, rather than environment?
My other objection is a bit more personal. For many years, I thought I
was a complete Honky, and that there were no minorities in my lineage.
Then my mother-in-law began searching the family tree, and found that
I had a full-blooded American Indian great-great grandmother.
I believe this makes me 1/16 Indian, but I don't feel any different
than before. My wife is all German, and our son was born with white
hair and blue eyes. Even the most critical observer would not think
him anything other than "white" so how reliable can race-based
assumptions be? Is he somehow inferior because he is a "mongrel"?
And if his descendants all bred with "racially pure" Europeans, would
they ever *stop* being mongrels? The figures Foonly gave showing the
effects of 30 generations on relationships shows that it is unlikely
that you are as pure as you think. Given the Roman conquests of
Europe *60* generations ago, it is entirely likely that a Latin
centurion named "Bigus Dickus" resides in your family tree
somewhere... Does that make *you* a mongrel?
Jon Croft
blue...@prodigy.net
Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk
Jon Croft wrote in message <38f79bd7....@news.randori.com>...
No, in their homelands they spend most of their time starving to death and
dying of A.I.D.S.. I think that there is a lower crime rate because there is
nothing to steal, unless you happen to covet your neighbor's nose-bone to
the point that you cannot see living without it and you break into his hut
one night and attempt to pull the prized nasal ornament out of his mucous
membrane without waking him. I would think that their tribal blood-letting
ceremonies might also serve to satisfy their appitite for the sort of
knifings and shootings their exiled kinsmen in America seem to resort to.
>My other objection is a bit more personal. For many years, I thought I
>was a complete Honky, and that there were no minorities in my lineage.
>Then my mother-in-law began searching the family tree, and found that
>I had a full-blooded American Indian great-great grandmother.
>I believe this makes me 1/16 Indian, but I don't feel any different
>than before. My wife is all German, and our son was born with white
>hair and blue eyes. Even the most critical observer would not think
>him anything other than "white" so how reliable can race-based
>assumptions be? Is he somehow inferior because he is a "mongrel"?
>And if his descendants all bred with "racially pure" Europeans, would
>they ever *stop* being mongrels? The figures Foonly gave showing the
>effects of 30 generations on relationships shows that it is unlikely
>that you are as pure as you think. Given the Roman conquests of
>Europe *60* generations ago, it is entirely likely that a Latin
>centurion named "Bigus Dickus" resides in your family tree
>somewhere... Does that make *you* a mongrel?
There are varying degrees of mongrelism, I suppose. For instance, Romans or
Italians are actually catagorized as Caucasian, though I would place them
down on the lower end of the scale with Spaniards, Portugese, Greeks, and
Arabs. I don't suppose that it is called miscegenation when one Caucasian of
a certain ethnic group marries (or otherwise unites) with one from a
different ethnic group. There is even some evidence which suggests that part
of the North American continent was inhabited by pre-Columbian Europeans, as
per Keniwick Man and the Ogham Stones of New England indicate, so maybe the
so-called "Native Americans" are not all Asiatic in origin. Even in China,
there are the Inu and there were recently found some very Celtic looking
mummified bodies in the desert of western China. While you and others make
much of the mixed nature of the ethnic heritage of Europe I don't really see
any indication of non-Caucasian races contributing to the European
gene-pool. Southern Britain and France were occupied by the Roman military
for some four hundred years, but you must remember that there is a great
deal of difference between Romans and sub-Sarahan Africans or Chinese.
njc-2
that I had a full-blooded American Indian great-great
grandmother.
I read that and developed an envious feeling, ya lucky bugger..
njc-2
>to death and dying of A.I.D.S.. I think that there is a lower
>crime rate because there is nothing to steal, unless you happen
>to covet your neighbor's nose-bone to the point that you cannot
>see living without it and you break into his hut one night and
>attempt to pull the prized nasal ornament out of his mucous
>membrane without waking him. I would think that their tribal
>blood-letting ceremonies might also serve to satisfy their
>appitite for the sort of knifings and shootings their exiled
>kinsmen in America seem to resort to.
Your an ignorant little shit at heart aren't you..
Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk
Anne Jackson wrote in message <200004150...@zetnet.co.uk>...
>The message <plMJ4.56$CI2...@newsfeed.slurp.net>
> from "Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk" <sja...@sonet.net>
>contains these words:
>
>> "Oh what a gift the giftie gie us,
>> Tae see oorsel's as ither's see us!"
>
That was fram mem'ry dear, how bad was I aff?
Ignoramus
> Tae see oorsel's as ither's see us!"
>
> sja...@sonet.net
I wish you could see what a repugnant cretin you are.
Anne Jackson
from "Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk" <sja...@sonet.net>
contains these words:
> "Oh what a gift the giftie gie us,
> Tae see oorsel's as ither's see us!"
If you're going to quote the Bard, for christssake *dae it right*!
Anne
Micheil
<sja...@sonet.net> wrote:
>"Oh what a gift the giftie gie us,
>Tae see oorsel's as ither's see us!"
One of the basic rules of quoting poetry is to get the quote right.
"O wad some power the giftie gie us,
Tae see oorsel's as ither's see us!"
- měcheil
- innis dhomh sgéile mu 'n Thěr nan Ňg......
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Micheil
<sja...@sonet.net> wrote:
>No, in their homelands they spend most of their time starving to death and
>dying of A.I.D.S..
>I think that there is a lower crime rate because there is
>nothing to steal, unless you happen to covet your neighbor's nose-bone to
>the point that you cannot see living without it and you break into his hut
>one night and attempt to pull the prized nasal ornament out of his mucous
>membrane without waking him. I would think that their tribal blood-letting
>ceremonies might also serve to satisfy their appitite for the sort of
>knifings and shootings their exiled kinsmen in America seem to resort to.
>There are varying degrees of mongrelism, I suppose. For instance, Romans or
>Italians are actually catagorized as Caucasian, though I would place them
>down on the lower end of the scale with Spaniards, Portugese, Greeks, and
>Arabs. I don't suppose that it is called miscegenation when one Caucasian of
>a certain ethnic group marries (or otherwise unites) with one from a
>different ethnic group. There is even some evidence which suggests that part
>of the North American continent was inhabited by pre-Columbian Europeans, as
>per Keniwick Man and the Ogham Stones of New England indicate, so maybe the
>so-called "Native Americans" are not all Asiatic in origin. Even in China,
>there are the Inu and there were recently found some very Celtic looking
>mummified bodies in the desert of western China. While you and others make
>much of the mixed nature of the ethnic heritage of Europe I don't really see
>any indication of non-Caucasian races contributing to the European
>gene-pool. Southern Britain and France were occupied by the Roman military
>for some four hundred years, but you must remember that there is a great
>deal of difference between Romans and sub-Sarahan Africans or Chinese.
>
>Steven Akins of that Ilk
>sja...@sonet.net
>
With the best will in the world, I have to say that I know no Scot who
could make such an appalling statement in public and expect approval.
This is as racist a post as any Nazi post I have read.
I have no belief in your "of that ilk" claims. It is my belief that
you are a liar and a poseur. I come from that segment of society where
titles are commonplace and believe me, people with unrecorded title
claims are legion. Indeed, in New York there is even a registry for
genuinely titled people, so that fakes and poseurs can be isolated and
exposed as confidence tricksters.
You are not recorded in Debretts or Burke's Peerage. You are not
recorded in the Lord Lyon's records or the New York Registry.
Therefore you are an imposter.
I read your brave statement in which you averred that you would not
bow to the Lord Lyon's jurisdiction. The genuine members of Scottish
titled society do, so why should you be exempt from that painless and
simple cross-check, designed to weed out imposters? Because you are an
imposter. There is no other rational explanation.
You are also an unpleasant racist; an anachronism in this day and age.
Your views on race are those of past centuries; your denigration of
those not of so-called "Caucasian" descent smacks of the anti-Semite.
In a word, you are an object of contempt and distaste to any decent
man or woman.
I have no interest in your ancestors, but if your views are their
inheritance, then they must have been contemptible.
I consider you to be white trash.
As a gesture of decency, your ceasing to post in this newsgroup would
be an act well-regarded by myself and several others, I believe,
especially that poster who is of Scottish-African descent. Scots
trancend racial boundaries and will marry regardless of race, colour
or creed. You have failed even this simple test of humanity which is
truly characteristic of the Scottish people, and thus, on their
behalf, I reject you as a Scot.
Jon Croft
>On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 20:08:58 -0000, "Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk"
><sja...@sonet.net> wrote:
>>No, in their homelands they spend most of their time starving to death and
>>dying of A.I.D.S..
>With the best will in the world, I have to say that I know no Scot who
>could make such an appalling statement in public and expect approval.
>
>This is as racist a post as any Nazi post I have read.
I would agree. I tried to rationally discuss this issue with him, but
the repose is a bit hard to belive.
"I think that there is a lower crime rate because there is
nothing to steal, unless you happen to covet your neighbor's
nose-bone"
Wow...
Big Chief Mongrel
blue...@prodigy.net
Jon Croft
wrote:
>I would agree. I tried to rationally discuss this issue with him, but
>the repose is a bit hard to belive.
^^^^^^
Where did that come from? Did I mean "response", or am I making
Freudian slips?
Jon Croft
blue...@prodigy.net
Moses Lambert
> On Sat, 15 Apr 2000 04:03:51 GMT, blue...@prodigy.net (Jon Croft)
> wrote:
>
> >I would agree. I tried to rationally discuss this issue with him, but
> >the repose is a bit hard to belive.
> ^^^^^^
>
> Where did that come from? Did I mean "response", or am I making
> Freudian slips?
>
lace.
Lesley Robertson
Micheil wrote in message <38f7dd0d...@news.primus.ca>...
dhomh sgéile mu 'n Thěr nan Ňg......
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> The Ex-Blessed Fr. Měcheil ŕ Talisker et Lagavulin, S.J.
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Consider yourself re-blessed! Venerated, even.
Lesley Robertson
Elaine Goldberg
njc-2
stuffed..
Bryn Fraser
2NOn...@bigfoot.com.invalid> writes
>A LACE TEDDY?? all the stuffing would fall out and she'd need re-
>stuffed..
>
ear...
Wrong again I guess.........
Bryn Fraser
To the Phenomenologist, legend is an artifact.
Shawn Kilpatrick
>
>No, in their homelands they spend most of their time starving to death and
>dying of A.I.D.S.. I think that there is a lower crime rate because there
is
>nothing to steal, unless you happen to covet your neighbor's nose-bone to
>the point that you cannot see living without it and you break into his hut
>one night and attempt to pull the prized nasal ornament out of his mucous
>membrane without waking him. I would think that their tribal blood-letting
>ceremonies might also serve to satisfy their appitite for the sort of
>knifings and shootings their exiled kinsmen in America seem to resort to.
>
>There are varying degrees of mongrelism, I suppose. For instance, Romans or
>Italians are actually catagorized as Caucasian, though I would place them
>down on the lower end of the scale with Spaniards, Portugese, Greeks, and
>Arabs.
Ha ha ha! Hooked again! I love it!
Keep going, Herr Ilk, you look more foolish and less chief-like with every
putrid post. You've sullied the name of your made-up "clan" in yet another
NG, how many more can you ostracise yourself in? Of course, I'm sure you'll
still be welcome with all the good ol' boys down in alt.thought.southern,
where this kind of tiny-minded drivel is encouraged...
SK
Shawn Kilpatrick
>Jon Croft wrote in message <38f78912....@news.randori.com>...
>>Well, the ability to laugh at yourself denotes a lack of an
>>inferiority complex, which is the hallmark of most racists.
He might as well, everybody else laughs at him.
As far as the lack of an inferiority complex, what do you suppose his making
up a clan and appointing himself its chief indicates?
Whatever, it's hilarious.
SK
Anne Jackson
from blue...@prodigy.net (Jon Croft) contains these words:
> >I would agree. I tried to rationally discuss this issue with him, but
> >the repose is a bit hard to belive.
> ^^^^^^
> Where did that come from? Did I mean "response", or am I making
> Freudian slips?
I just blame "senile dimensions" when I produce a typo! ;-)
Anne
Lachie Macquarie
<Mic...@Ireland.com> writes
>On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 20:08:58 -0000, "Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk"
><sja...@sonet.net> wrote:
>
>>No, in their homelands they spend most of their time starving to death and
>>dying of A.I.D.S..
>>I think that there is a lower crime rate because there is
>>nothing to steal, unless you happen to covet your neighbor's nose-bone to
>>the point that you cannot see living without it and you break into his hut
>>one night and attempt to pull the prized nasal ornament out of his mucous
>>membrane without waking him. I would think that their tribal blood-letting
>>ceremonies might also serve to satisfy their appitite for the sort of
>>knifings and shootings their exiled kinsmen in America seem to resort to.
>
>could make such an appalling statement in public and expect approval.
>
>This is as racist a post as any Nazi post I have read.
>
>
>---------------------------------------o0o---------------------------------------
> The Ex-Blessed Fr. Měcheil ŕ Talisker et Lagavulin, S.J.
>---------------------------------------o0o---------------------------------------
--
Lachie Macquarie, Bod an Deamhain I wish.
Lachie Macquarie
<blue...@prodigy.net> writes
>
> The following is highlight coverage of the year 2000
> International Ignorance Contest, brought to you by
> BBC Sport. Now, to Edinburgh, Scotland and our
> announcer, Nigel Bundy.
>
>Dan: Gee, Nigel, I don't know... They were both so ignorant, it's
>going to be really hard to pick a winner.
>
>Nigel: Quite so, Mr. Vice-President... Hold on, I've just been handed
>a note that the judges have walked out in protest due to the appalling
>level of ignorance! It looks like this battle will have to be fought
>all over again! You can be sure that when the ignorance resumes,
>the BBC will be covering it. This is Nigel Bundy, wishing you a good
>evening.
>
>This program produced by:
>
>
> Jon Croft
> blue...@prodigy.net
>
>
>
Spot on, big man but get better judges next time I would like a winner.
Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk
Micheil wrote in message <38f7dd0d...@news.primus.ca>...
>With the best will in the world, I have to say that I know no Scot who
>could make such an appalling statement in public and expect approval.
Oh, Micheil, do you really think I expect approval? Jon said he was
disappointed that he didn't get the flame war he had hoped for from his
imaginative little production, so I was simply doing my best to oblige him.
I rather enjoy a good free-for-all, it's so much more entertaining to stir
the ant-hill up once in a while than to to just sit there watching them
unmolested.
>This is as racist a post as any Nazi post I have read.
Oh now, Micheil, don't kid yourself. What can you offer to refute my
statements? I have never been to Africa, but from what I have seen or read
about it in National Geographic or the World News Tonight, it seems like a
pretty shabby place, overpopulated by a lot of folk who don't have a clue as
to how to better themselves or bring their society out of the Dark Ages, or
should I say Stone Age?
>I have no belief in your "of that ilk" claims. It is my belief that
>you are a liar and a poseur. I come from that segment of society where
>titles are commonplace and believe me, people with unrecorded title
>claims are legion. Indeed, in New York there is even a registry for
>genuinely titled people, so that fakes and poseurs can be isolated and
>exposed as confidence tricksters.
I'm sure that is very useful to New Yorkers.
>You are not recorded in Debretts or Burke's Peerage. You are not
>recorded in the Lord Lyon's records or the New York Registry.
>Therefore you are an imposter.
No, I have only begun to pursue the accumulation of records required to
satisfy the schedule of proofs which must accompany my petition for
confirmation. I have to gather records for each generation of my family back
to before 1672. It is a long process which requires much research into
genealogical and historical records which must be obtained by either
personally visiting or writing to a number of probate record offices in
order to obtain copies of the required documents. I imagine it will take the
better part of a year to get all of the documents together that are needed
for the schedule of proofs.
>I read your brave statement in which you averred that you would not
>bow to the Lord Lyon's jurisdiction. The genuine members of Scottish
>titled society do, so why should you be exempt from that painless and
>simple cross-check, designed to weed out imposters? Because you are an
>imposter. There is no other rational explanation.
No, I do not need Lyon's approval to administer to my Clan. The reason I
have compromised on the point of petitioning for confirmation from Lyon is
simply to satisfy the wishes of those outside of my Clan, such as yourself,
who seem to need his acceptance in the absence of an ability to think for
themselves.
>You are also an unpleasant racist; an anachronism in this day and age.
>Your views on race are those of past centuries; your denigration of
>those not of so-called "Caucasian" descent smacks of the anti-Semite.
>In a word, you are an object of contempt and distaste to any decent
>man or woman.
Well, I live in the here and now. The world is not the harmonous love-in
that your utopian ideas would have it to be. In all likelyhood it never will
be. It is in fact a harsh, brutal place where survival of the fittest is the
order of the day. My loyalties lie with my own kind, whether or not the
others survive is not my concern, it is theirs. The failure of others to
take responsibility for their destiny in no way forfeits that responsibility
to our shoulders. Let them drop by the wayside as nature intended.
>I have no interest in your ancestors, but if your views are their
>inheritance, then they must have been contemptible.
>
>I consider you to be white trash.
I regret for you that you judgement is so very impaired.
>As a gesture of decency, your ceasing to post in this newsgroup would
>be an act well-regarded by myself and several others, I believe,
>especially that poster who is of Scottish-African descent. Scots
>trancend racial boundaries and will marry regardless of race, colour
>or creed.
The very hallmark of what is "white-trash".
>You have failed even this simple test of humanity which is
>truly characteristic of the Scottish people, and thus, on their
>behalf, I reject you as a Scot.
You may reject me as a human being, but it in no real way changes anything.
I remain the same person that I was previous to your self-important
judgement was passed. The very fact that you nodded approvingly at my
earlier sentiments regarding the international spread of Scottish culture
only shows what a fickle judge of character you are. Every time you meet a
person of African descent who bears a Scottish name, you should remember
that they do so because their ancestors were purchased as the property of a
Scotsman to toil on that Scotsman's plantation. Do not be so self-righteous
in your elevation of the Scottish character. Pedestals are easily toppled by
facts.
Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk
Shawn Kilpatrick wrote in message <8d9q3p$9ta$1...@cougar.golden.net>...
>Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk wrote in message ...
>>
>>No, in their homelands they spend most of their time starving to death and
>>dying of A.I.D.S.. I think that there is a lower crime rate because there
>is
>>nothing to steal, unless you happen to covet your neighbor's nose-bone to
>>the point that you cannot see living without it and you break into his hut
>>one night and attempt to pull the prized nasal ornament out of his mucous
>>membrane without waking him. I would think that their tribal blood-letting
>>ceremonies might also serve to satisfy their appitite for the sort of
>>knifings and shootings their exiled kinsmen in America seem to resort to.
>>
>
or
>>Italians are actually catagorized as Caucasian, though I would place them
>>down on the lower end of the scale with Spaniards, Portugese, Greeks, and
>>Arabs.
>
>
>Keep going, Herr Ilk, you look more foolish and less chief-like with every
>putrid post. You've sullied the name of your made-up "clan" in yet another
>NG, how many more can you ostracise yourself in?
I wasn't aware that I had been ostracised in any NG, Perhaps you can list
them for me?
> Of course, I'm sure you'll
>still be welcome with all the good ol' boys down in alt.thought.southern,
>where this kind of tiny-minded drivel is encouraged...
Actually, the lack of any interesting discussions on that NG of late has
resulted in my unsubscribing from alt.southern.thought.
Shawn Kilpatrick
Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk wrote in message ...
>I wasn't aware that I had been ostracised in any NG, Perhaps you can list
>them for me?
I suppose that "ostracised" wasn't the best choice of word; some people do
still attempt to have a decent discussion with you (usually those who don't
know you like we do), but eventually, you always manage to sour the milk of
human kindness with your hateful tripe. To clarify, I should have said
"exposed yourself for the pompous, self-aggrandizing, racist, pinheaded
prattling poseur that you are."
To date, the list of NG's that identify you as such includes
alt.scottish.clans, soc.culture.scottish, and rec.heraldry. Examples of
your extreme obtuseness, and reaction to these examples, are readily
available on Usenet for general viewing. I'm sure the list will grow.
>Actually, the lack of any interesting discussions on that NG of late has
>resulted in my unsubscribing from alt.southern.thought.
What's the matter, did y'all run out of things that you could blame on
Yankees and blacks?
SK
Clan MacLeod Society - Sally Smith
Well, where I live, there's a group of people -- identifiable
by skin color and features and suchlike -- who make the most money
(particularly in highly educated positions), have their kids
make the highest grades in school, have a vanishingly small
crimerate, and a very strong family structure.
They're called Asians (both East and South).
Just a point of data.
--
Sally Smith, webmaster for the Clan MacLeod Societies, mac...@best.com
http://www.best.com/~macleod/
Disclaimer: unless stated, the above posting is entirely my own opinion
Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk
Clan MacLeod Society - Sally Smith wrote in message
<38f89e8b$0$2...@nntp1.ba.best.com>...
><vast snippage>
>
>Well, where I live, there's a group of people -- identifiable
>by skin color and features and suchlike -- who make the most money
>(particularly in highly educated positions), have their kids
>make the highest grades in school, have a vanishingly small
>crimerate, and a very strong family structure.
>
>They're called Asians (both East and South).
>
>Just a point of data.
Indeed, the Asian-American community is one to which other ethnic groups
should look as an example. They are productive, hard-working, clannish, and
uphold their traditional culture with a high degree of integrity. If other
ethnic groups followed their example, America would be a much better place.
Micheil
<l.a.ro...@stm.tudelft.nl> wrote:
>
>Micheil wrote in message <38f7dd0d...@news.primus.ca>...
>
>dhomh sgéile mu 'n Thěr nan Ňg......
>>
>>---------------------------------------o0o---------------------------------
>------
>> The Ex-Blessed Fr. Měcheil ŕ Talisker et Lagavulin, S.J.
>>---------------------------------------o0o---------------------------------
>------
>
>Consider yourself re-blessed! Venerated, even.
>Lesley Robertson
Thank you Lesley. You are one of the few people writing in this group
for whom I feel a special regard, because you have never written
anything mean, spiteful or low-minded, no matter how provoked.
In consequence, I accept your remarks as the highest compliment and
thank you for them. They reflect the standard of decency and honesty
which I and most others in this group have come to expect from you.
You are all that we Scotsmen admire when contemplating the Scottish
Woman. "Himself" is blessed indeed, and an object of envy to many,
myself included.
Following your direction, I have reinstated myself!
Most sincerely,
- měcheil
- innis dhomh sgéile mu 'n Thěr nan Ňg......
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The Blessed Fr. Měcheil ŕ Talisker et Lagavulin, S.J.
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Séimí mac Liam
> On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 16:59:39 -0000, "Steven & Julie Akins of that
Ilk"
> <sja...@sonet.net> wrote:
>
> >Jon Croft wrote in message <38f78912....@news.randori.com>...
>
> >>Well, the ability to laugh at yourself denotes a lack of an
> >>encouraged by your response, although somewhat dissappointed that
we
> >>won't get into the flame war I was so looking forward to.
>
> >There are probably a lot of things which I don't have in common
with most
> >people you would catagorize as "racist", and inferiority complexes
are only
> >one of them. You must understand that I don't wish any ill for
anyone of a
> >different race, in fact I probably wish better things for them
(education,
> >enviroment, lifestyle, etc.) than they do for themselves. I'm just
not a
> >bleeding hyppocrite who says one thing and feels another.
>
> Well, I admit that your racial views are not at the extreme end of
the
> spectrum, but I still would disagree with your stance. Having lived
in
> the Los Angeles area my entire life, I can see how a casual observer
> might attribute various social problems to specific races, but I
> believe you are missing a key indicator. Do these races exhibit the
> same negaitive tendencies in their home countries? For example, you
> have given a list of negative traits associated with blacks, such as
> criminality, lack of family responsibility, and so forth. Are these
> traits common in Africa? I would say no... My opinion is that the
> African family structure is stronger than that of many "whites" in
the
> United States, and that crime rates in Africa are lower than many
> "white" countries, such as Russia. If you agree that these traits do
> not apply to their native homelands, then how can you attribute it
to
> race, rather than environment?
>
> My other objection is a bit more personal. For many years, I thought
I
> was a complete Honky, and that there were no minorities in my
lineage.
> Then my mother-in-law began searching the family tree, and found
that
> I had a full-blooded American Indian great-great grandmother.
> than before. My wife is all German, and our son was born with white
> hair and blue eyes. Even the most critical observer would not think
> him anything other than "white" so how reliable can race-based
> assumptions be? Is he somehow inferior because he is a "mongrel"?
> And if his descendants all bred with "racially pure" Europeans,
would
> they ever *stop* being mongrels? The figures Foonly gave showing the
> effects of 30 generations on relationships shows that it is unlikely
> that you are as pure as you think. Given the Roman conquests of
> Europe *60* generations ago, it is entirely likely that a Latin
> centurion named "Bigus Dickus" resides in your family tree
> somewhere... Does that make *you* a mongrel?
>
>
Jon, I had this discussion with the Ilk over at soc.culture.celtic a
couple of months ago. It didn't sink in then and I don't think it
will now.
--
Saint Séimí mac Liam
Carriagemaker to the court of Queen Maeve
My eyes are hazel as well as my nuts"
Canonized December '99
Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk
Ignoramus wrote in message <8db2tv$s66$1...@news.hw.ac.uk>...
>>
>> Indeed, the Asian-American community is one to which other ethnic groups
>> should look as an example. They are productive, hard-working, clannish,
>and
>> uphold their traditional culture with a high degree of integrity. If
other
>> ethnic groups followed their example, America would be a much better
>place.
>>
manage
>a coherent argument.
>
><QUOTE author="Steven Akins">
>No, in their homelands they spend most of their time starving to death and
>dying of A.I.D.S.. I think that there is a lower crime rate because there
is
>nothing to steal, unless you happen to covet your neighbor's nose-bone to
>the point that you cannot see living without it and you break into his hut
>one night and attempt to pull the prized nasal ornament out of his mucous
>membrane without waking him. I would think that their tribal blood-letting
>ceremonies might also serve to satisfy their appitite for the sort of
>knifings and shootings their exiled kinsmen in America seem to resort to.
>
>If Black people upheld the traditional culture which you attribute to them,
>America would
>not be a better place by your own definition.
I see no contradiction in my statements. It is unfortunate that the
sub-Sarahan African peoples have not developed as sophisticated a culture as
the peoples of the Orient, who have a very fine sense of asthetics,
character, and social order, but it is indeed my belief that it would be
preferrable for the black African peoples to uphold their indigenous
culture, rather than degrading themselves by becoming baggy-panted,
gold-bedecked buffoons who chant and sway to their vulgar rap-mantras and
occupy themselves primarily by abusing drugs, alcohol, and engaging in
bastard-producing, disease-spreading sexually promiscuous behavior, all of
which causes them to be a burden upon American society and has lead to the
deterioration of the morals and ethics of our own children who have been
exposed to their corrupting influences through social intergration and the
media.
Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk
Peter William Nisbet wrote in message <8db5u3$sga$1...@news.hw.ac.uk>...
>> has lead to the
>> deterioration of the morals and ethics of our own children who have been
>> exposed to their corrupting influences through social intergration and
the
>> media.
>>
>Your problem is you're a bad parent.
My children are aged 1 1/2 and 3 1/2 years respectively. Fortunately they
have not yet been exposed to the corrupting influences of which I speak. I
am more concerned about the morals and ethics of those children who have
been exposed to these subversive elements, as my own children will someday
attend school with these. Your statements regarding my own virtues as a
parent are wholly baseless in their entirity as you have no knowledge
whatsoever in that regard.
Ignoramus
> Indeed, the Asian-American community is one to which other ethnic groups
> should look as an example. They are productive, hard-working, clannish,
and
> uphold their traditional culture with a high degree of integrity. If other
> ethnic groups followed their example, America would be a much better
place.
>
> sja...@sonet.net
You really are pathetic you're contradicting yourself. You can't even manage
a coherent argument.
<QUOTE author="Steven Akins">
No, in their homelands they spend most of their time starving to death and
dying of A.I.D.S.. I think that there is a lower crime rate because there is
nothing to steal, unless you happen to covet your neighbor's nose-bone to
the point that you cannot see living without it and you break into his hut
one night and attempt to pull the prized nasal ornament out of his mucous
membrane without waking him. I would think that their tribal blood-letting
ceremonies might also serve to satisfy their appitite for the sort of
knifings and shootings their exiled kinsmen in America seem to resort to.
</QUOTE>
If Black people upheld the traditional culture which you attribute to them,
America would
not be a better place by your own definition.
--------------------------------------------------------------
Peter William Nisbet
cst...@cee.hw.ac.uk
Peter William Nisbet
> deterioration of the morals and ethics of our own children who have been
> exposed to their corrupting influences through social intergration and the
> media.
>
> sja...@sonet.net
Your own childrens morals and ethics are your own responsiblity.
Your problem is you're a bad parent.
--
--------------------------------------------------------------
Peter William Nisbet
Peter William Nisbet
> have not yet been exposed to the corrupting influences of which I speak.
I can only assume that you're a estranged from your children, as you're
postings
suggest your the only major corrupting influence (of which you speak).
> I am more concerned about the morals and ethics of those children who have
> been exposed to these subversive elements, as my own children will someday
> attend school with these.
Instilling hatred of others into your children is morally corrupt. Those
children who have been brought up
to hate are more likely to develop a strong hatred of their parents.
Imagine your daughter being knocked up by a black boyfriend. The ensuing
family dispute would be exactly
what we've learned to expect from White-trash (like yourself) on American
talkshows.
> Your statements regarding my own virtues as a
> parent are wholly baseless in their entirity as you have no knowledge
> whatsoever in that regard.
You're previous posting would prove me to believe that I can question you're
parenting skills.
> Steven Akins of that Ilk
> sja...@sonet.net
Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk
Peter William Nisbet wrote in message <8dbhvc$v6q$1...@news.hw.ac.uk>...
>I can only assume that you're a estranged from your children, as you're
>postings
>suggest your the only major corrupting influence (of which you speak).
It is startling how quickly you are able to form assumptions, never mind
that they are completely incorrect, as are your grammatical skills, which
makes reading your postings a bit difficult. I take it you are not studying
English composition at the university?
>Instilling hatred of others into your children is morally corrupt. Those
>children who have been brought up
>to hate are more likely to develop a strong hatred of their parents.
My children are not taught hatred, they are taught to take pride in
themselves and their culture. I leave them free to form their own
conclusions about others based upon the behaviors they observe in them, as I
have done.
>Imagine your daughter being knocked up by a black boyfriend. The ensuing
>family dispute would be exactly
>what we've learned to expect from White-trash (like yourself) on American
>talkshows.
One of the very reasons why I support both legalized abortion and a
citizen's right to keep and bear arms.
>> Your statements regarding my own virtues as a
>> parent are wholly baseless in their entirity as you have no knowledge
>> whatsoever in that regard.
>
>You're previous posting would prove me to believe that I can question
you're
>parenting skills.
You are not capable of questioning anything with any degree of authority,
Nesbitt.
Bill Potter
>
> <vast snippage>
>
> Well, where I live, there's a group of people -- identifiable
> by skin color and features and suchlike -- who make the most money
> (particularly in highly educated positions), have their kids
> make the highest grades in school, have a vanishingly small
> crimerate, and a very strong family structure.
>
> They're called Asians (both East and South).
>
> Just a point of data.
>
> Sally Smith, webmaster for the Clan MacLeod Societies, mac...@best.com
> http://www.best.com/~macleod/
> Disclaimer: unless stated, the above posting is entirely my own opinion
You don't say where you live, but to the best of my konwledge, those are
the characteristics of the Scots of asian descent.
--
William Potter - bpo...@mediaone.net
Nick Durie
Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk <sja...@sonet.net> wrote in message
news:1K%J4.559$yN2....@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>
> Micheil wrote in message <38f7dd0d...@news.primus.ca>...
>
>
> >With the best will in the world, I have to say that I know no Scot who
> >could make such an appalling statement in public and expect approval.
>
>
> Oh, Micheil, do you really think I expect approval? Jon said he was
> disappointed that he didn't get the flame war he had hoped for from his
> imaginative little production, so I was simply doing my best to oblige
him.
> I rather enjoy a good free-for-all, it's so much more entertaining to stir
> the ant-hill up once in a while than to to just sit there watching them
> unmolested.
>
> >This is as racist a post as any Nazi post I have read.
>
>
> Oh now, Micheil, don't kid yourself. What can you offer to refute my
> statements? I have never been to Africa, but from what I have seen or read
> about it in National Geographic or the World News Tonight, it seems like a
> pretty shabby place, overpopulated by a lot of folk who don't have a clue
as
> to how to better themselves or bring their society out of the Dark Ages,
or
> should I say Stone Age?
>
Actually that's utter shite - America is always trying to pretend to the
outside world that Africa is so vastly over populated so that it can
implement its birth control policies. Most of Africa is open country - very
spartan - with few people. The towns and cities tend to be much smaller
than in overpopulated Europe or the rest of the rich world and if it weren't
for the vast colonial mess that our 'civilised' societies have wrought upon
them they would not be "stone age" at all!!!
Where else in the wolrd can you see borders that run in a straight line for
thousands of miles!!!
> >I have no belief in your "of that ilk" claims. It is my belief that
> >you are a liar and a poseur. I come from that segment of society where
> >titles are commonplace and believe me, people with unrecorded title
> >claims are legion. Indeed, in New York there is even a registry for
> >genuinely titled people, so that fakes and poseurs can be isolated and
> >exposed as confidence tricksters.
>
>
> I'm sure that is very useful to New Yorkers.
>
> >You are not recorded in Debretts or Burke's Peerage. You are not
> >recorded in the Lord Lyon's records or the New York Registry.
> >Therefore you are an imposter.
>
>
> No, I have only begun to pursue the accumulation of records required to
> satisfy the schedule of proofs which must accompany my petition for
> confirmation. I have to gather records for each generation of my family
back
> to before 1672. It is a long process which requires much research into
> genealogical and historical records which must be obtained by either
> personally visiting or writing to a number of probate record offices in
> order to obtain copies of the required documents. I imagine it will take
the
> better part of a year to get all of the documents together that are needed
> for the schedule of proofs.
>
By the way I am to become Lord Durie of Craigiebank - just as soon as I can
find the records to prove that I am the heir to throne of the clan McDurie
of the DurieDuries which as I'm sure you are aware have held the land of
their their household for nearly seven years.
> >I read your brave statement in which you averred that you would not
> >bow to the Lord Lyon's jurisdiction. The genuine members of Scottish
> >titled society do, so why should you be exempt from that painless and
> >simple cross-check, designed to weed out imposters? Because you are an
> >imposter. There is no other rational explanation.
>
>
> No, I do not need Lyon's approval to administer to my Clan. The reason I
> have compromised on the point of petitioning for confirmation from Lyon is
> simply to satisfy the wishes of those outside of my Clan, such as
yourself,
> who seem to need his acceptance in the absence of an ability to think for
> themselves.
Yes Lord Lyon has been thwarting my rightful claim to the seat of the
household McDurie for too long - I'm with you "of that ilk"
>
> >You are also an unpleasant racist; an anachronism in this day and age.
> >Your views on race are those of past centuries; your denigration of
> >those not of so-called "Caucasian" descent smacks of the anti-Semite.
> >In a word, you are an object of contempt and distaste to any decent
> >man or woman.
>
>
> Well, I live in the here and now. The world is not the harmonous love-in
> that your utopian ideas would have it to be. In all likelyhood it never
will
> be. It is in fact a harsh, brutal place where survival of the fittest is
the
> order of the day. My loyalties lie with my own kind, whether or not the
> others survive is not my concern, it is theirs. The failure of others to
> take responsibility for their destiny in no way forfeits that
responsibility
> to our shoulders. Let them drop by the wayside as nature intended.
>
Clearly you've spent some time in the Douglas housing estate!
>
> >I have no interest in your ancestors, but if your views are their
> >inheritance, then they must have been contemptible.
> >
> >I consider you to be white trash.
>
>
> I regret for you that you judgement is so very impaired.
>
He is actually quite correct ilk!
> >As a gesture of decency, your ceasing to post in this newsgroup would
> >be an act well-regarded by myself and several others, I believe,
> >especially that poster who is of Scottish-African descent. Scots
> >trancend racial boundaries and will marry regardless of race, colour
> >or creed.
>
> The very hallmark of what is "white-trash".
>
is... it?
> >You have failed even this simple test of humanity which is
> >truly characteristic of the Scottish people, and thus, on their
> >behalf, I reject you as a Scot.
>
> You may reject me as a human being, but it in no real way changes
anything.
> I remain the same person that I was previous to your self-important
> judgement was passed. The very fact that you nodded approvingly at my
> earlier sentiments regarding the international spread of Scottish culture
> only shows what a fickle judge of character you are. Every time you meet a
> person of African descent who bears a Scottish name, you should remember
> that they do so because their ancestors were purchased as the property of
a
> Scotsman to toil on that Scotsman's plantation. Do not be so
self-righteous
> in your elevation of the Scottish character. Pedestals are easily toppled
by
> facts.
>
It is sentiments such as those that prompt Unionists to say "the best thing
a Scotchman ever saw was the border with England!"
junk...@yahoo.com
Mic...@Ireland.com (Micheil) wrote:
> With the best will in the world, I have to say that I know no Scot who
> could make such an appalling statement in public and expect approval.
>
> This is as racist a post as any Nazi post I have read.
Where have you been Micheil, under a rock? The rest of the world
reached this conclusion about Ilky-boy simply ages ago.
Not only is he a racist and a charlatan, his ignorance of all
things outwith his immediate circle of be-kilted good ol' boys is
breath-taking.
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"Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk" <sja...@sonet.net> wrote:
>
> Peter William Nisbet wrote in message <8dbhvc$v6q$1...@news.hw.ac.uk>...
Yeesss! Isn't this what started this thread in the first place?
Everybody stand back now and watch these two slug it out.
Pig-ignorance vs bad spelling ! Racist tosser vs impertinent numpty!
Anyone taking bets on this?
The person I feel sorry for is Julie Akins. Does she ever get
a say on her name appearing on Ilky's bilge? Or is she in
perfect agreement?
Ian O. Morrison
"Nick Durie" <Nick_...@bun.com> wrote:
>
> Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk <sja...@sonet.net> wrote in message
> news:1K%J4.559$yN2....@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > Oh now, Micheil, don't kid yourself. What can you offer to refute my
> > statements? I have never been to Africa, but from what I have seen
or read
> > about it in National Geographic or the World News Tonight, it seems
like a
> > pretty shabby place, overpopulated by a lot of folk who don't have
a clue
> as
> > to how to better themselves or bring their society out of the Dark
Ages,
> or
> > should I say Stone Age?
> >
>
> Actually that's utter shite - America is always trying to pretend to
the
> outside world that Africa is so vastly over populated so that it can
> implement its birth control policies. Most of Africa is open
country - very
> spartan - with few people. The towns and cities tend to be much
smaller
> than in overpopulated Europe or the rest of the rich world and if it
weren't
> for the vast colonial mess that our 'civilised' societies have
wrought upon
> them they would not be "stone age" at all!!!
I can recommend Jared Diamond's award-winning book, "Guns, Germs and
Steel" for an alternative view of Africa and its history. That would
provide Mr Akins with a surer source of information than flicking
through the pictures in "National Geographic". He might even discover
to his surprise that (black) Africans had steel some centuries before
(white) Europeans.
Another source of illumination is the website of the National Museum of
Namibia (http://www.natmus.cul.na/index.html) - an African country of
immense size, but with a population of around 800,000. I can recommend
the bit which outlines how Namibian hunter-gathering men would equip
themselves with all the necessary paraphernalia and, with great
ceremony, wander off to "hunt" animals while their womenfolk did
the "gathering" which actually provided the community with the
necessities of life. It was ever thus, one suspects.....
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Ian O. Morrison <ian_o_m...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> I can recommend Jared Diamond's award-winning book, "Guns, Germs and
> Steel" for an alternative view of Africa and its history. That would
> provide Mr Akins with a surer source of information than flicking
> through the pictures in "National Geographic".
I'm afraid you presuppose that Akins actually wants to know the facts.
Ignorance is bliss and there are few more ignorant than those who _want_
to remain ignorant.
It is an excellent book though, as is the one that preceeded it:
"The Rise & Fall of the Third Chimpanzee". It explains a lot
as to why any historical peoples' success was more down to the blind
luck of being at the right place at the right time rather than to
any racial superiority.
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>
>>
>> Oh now, Micheil, don't kid yourself. What can you offer to refute my
>> statements? I have never been to Africa, but from what I have seen or read
>> about it in National Geographic or the World News Tonight, it seems like a
>> pretty shabby place, overpopulated by a lot of folk who don't have a clue
>as
>> to how to better themselves or bring their society out of the Dark Ages,
>or
>> should I say Stone Age?
>>
>
>Actually that's utter shite - America is always trying to pretend to the
>outside world that Africa is so vastly over populated so that it can
>implement its birth control policies. Most of Africa is open country - very
>spartan - with few people. The towns and cities tend to be much smaller
>than in overpopulated Europe or the rest of the rich world and if it weren't
>for the vast colonial mess that our 'civilised' societies have wrought upon
>them they would not be "stone age" at all!!!
>
>Where else in the wolrd can you see borders that run in a straight line for
>thousands of miles!!!
>
Pendant mode, how about the border betwixt Canada and the US, forty
ninth parallel? Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
>>
>> No, I have only begun to pursue the accumulation of records required to
>> satisfy the schedule of proofs which must accompany my petition for
>> confirmation. I have to gather records for each generation of my family
>back
>> to before 1672. It is a long process which requires much research into
>> genealogical and historical records which must be obtained by either
>> personally visiting or writing to a number of probate record offices in
>> order to obtain copies of the required documents. I imagine it will take
>the
>> better part of a year to get all of the documents together that are needed
>> for the schedule of proofs.
>>
>
>By the way I am to become Lord Durie of Craigiebank - just as soon as I can
>find the records to prove that I am the heir to throne of the clan McDurie
>of the DurieDuries which as I'm sure you are aware have held the land of
>their their household for nearly seven years.
Congratulations on your elevation did you used to be in the Virginian?
Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk
junk...@netscape.net wrote in message <8dfhi1$3jn$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>I'm afraid you presuppose that Akins actually wants to know the facts.
>Ignorance is bliss and there are few more ignorant than those who _want_
>to remain ignorant.
I'm afraid that you presuppose that anyone other than sub-Sarahan Africans
would be interested in studying what is for all practical purposes the most
inconsequential of world cultures to have failed to evolve on this planet.
To remain ignorant of trivial facts regarding that which is of no
consequence is to have used one's time more wisely than those who fawn over
such shite.
Micheil
>Steven Akins of that Ilk
>sja...@sonet.net
It will therefore twitch your fossilized brain to know that Nigeria
had a stock exchange and an excellent postal system in the 1400s, and
that Benin bronzes created by that culture are universally considered
to have taken their place among the world's great art works. Indeed,
Mr. Morrison may even have a few examples of the last in his excellent
museum in Edinburgh.
I think it would be true to say that many Africans enjoyed a higher
standard of living than most Highlanders up until the 1850s. The Akins
family should be humbled to think that their allegedly Highland
ancestors lived in a way which many Africans would not have tolerated.
Africa is also the only continent in which human society achieved the
perfect balance between work and leisure.
As for African-Americans, what was done to them by your ethnic subset
is shameful.
It shames Scotland because so many black-haters came from there; it
shames your country because you have just shown the world by what you
write that your much-vaunted Declaration of Independence is a
bald-faced lie as far as your black fellow citizens are concerned.
The criminal acts of many black city dwellers today are more than
counterbalanced by even the far larger number of African-Americans who
strive to lead exemplary lives and whose members are now starting to
fill the upper levels of American public life.
I think that Colin Powell could have had an excellent chance of
becoming President - he was asked to run but declined, saying he
didn't want to expose his family to the dangers that being a black
President would involve as every racist cretin like you would have
actively encouraged some half-witted extremist to murder him.
I'd far sooner have Colin Powell as President than that racist
bastard, George Wallace, an international joke after his whining about
"repentance" after the game got too rough for the cowardly wimp.
I question why you are still befouling this newsgroup.
Stop passing yourself off as a Scot. You smear the good name of our
people and our country by claiming to be one of us.
Get out of here - you disgust me with your racist shite.
I spit on you. I spit on your puerile, social-climbing pretensions. I
spit on your dishonoured name. I spit on your ancestors and on their
memory. I spit on your descendants if they grow up to be as nasty a
nest of racists as their pox-rotted forebear.
I spit on everything connected with you. If I happen across your
grave, I will piss on it and topple your tombstone face downwards to
show my complete and total contempt for you. If there is justice, your
family name will be erased from the memories of decent men and women.
You are a broken man. Leave this group, who find you so utterly
repugnant to their sense of decency, alone.
- měcheil
- innis dhomh sgéile mu 'n Thěr nan Ňg......
-------------------------------------o0o--------------------------------------
The Blessed Fr. Měcheil ŕ Talisker et Lagavulin, S.J.
-------------------------------------o0o--------------------------------------
Ian O. Morrison
"Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk" <sja...@sonet.net> wrote:
> I'm afraid that you presuppose that anyone other than sub-Sarahan
Africans
> would be interested in studying what is for all practical purposes
the most
> inconsequential of world cultures to have failed to evolve on this
planet.
> To remain ignorant of trivial facts regarding that which is of no
> consequence is to have used one's time more wisely than those who
fawn over
> such shite.
With that one remark, I would suggest, Akins wins this contest hands
down!
For a start - Africa has more cultural diversity than the rest of the
world put together........
For a finish - where on Earth did humans originate? Oh - d*mm*t I
forgot - according to Akins et ilk we were probably "created".
There is no more important subject for human enquiry than the origins
of humans - as someone, more or less, once said.
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junk...@netscape.net
"Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk" <sja...@sonet.net> wrote:
>
> junk...@netscape.net wrote in message
<8dfhi1$3jn$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>
> >I'm afraid you presuppose that Akins actually wants to know the
> >facts. Ignorance is bliss and there are few more ignorant than
> >those who _want_ to remain ignorant.
>
[etc.. etc..]
Which just predictably confirms everything anyone has ever said about
you.
Not only a racist pillock, but getting to be a bore as well.
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Micheil wrote in message <38fbc0e4...@news.primus.ca>...
>On Mon, 17 Apr 2000 14:00:56 -0000, "Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk"
><sja...@sonet.net> wrote:
>>junk...@netscape.net wrote in message <8dfhi1$3jn$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>>>I'm afraid you presuppose that Akins actually wants to know the facts.
>>>Ignorance is bliss and there are few more ignorant than those who _want_
>>>to remain ignorant.
>>I'm afraid that you presuppose that anyone other than sub-Sarahan Africans
>>would be interested in studying what is for all practical purposes the
most
>>inconsequential of world cultures to have failed to evolve on this planet.
>>To remain ignorant of trivial facts regarding that which is of no
>>consequence is to have used one's time more wisely than those who fawn
over
>>such shite.
>It will therefore twitch your fossilized brain to know that Nigeria
>had a stock exchange and an excellent postal system in the 1400s,
Indeed? And do they now? What happened to this Nigerian Wall Street? Did the
price of watermelon futures suddenly plummet sending their traders to jump
to their deaths from the tops of their grass and mud huts?
>and
>that Benin bronzes created by that culture are universally considered
>to have taken their place among the world's great art works.
Oh, right up there with Picaso, eh? Having attended a school of fine arts in
my youth, I am afraid that very little of what passes for "art" actually
exhibits artistry. Being unfamiliar with your Benin bronzes (I must have
skipped class that day), I would not seek to pass judgement on them, they
may well be masterpieces, but they may just as well be quite ordinary
objects which are fawned over by some avant guarde charletan. There is much
in the art world which is fraudulent. It rather like the French chefs
laughing to themselves in the kitchen as they feed their wealthy patrons
snails and animal organs for exhuberent prices. There are just as many
"artists" who throw paint on canvas without any skill or preconception of
design and then sell their garbage to some poor patron with more money than
taste who purchases said "art" in the egotistical belief that they are
somehow "enlightened" because they have "artistic appreciation" for it.
>Indeed,
>Mr. Morrison may even have a few examples of the last in his excellent
>museum in Edinburgh.
No doubt, I have seen many museums waste their funding to acquire garbage.
(Again, I do not say this necessarily about the Benin bronzes, but about
"modern art" in general.)
>I think it would be true to say that many Africans enjoyed a higher
>standard of living than most Highlanders up until the 1850s. The Akins
>family should be humbled to think that their allegedly Highland
>ancestors lived in a way which many Africans would not have tolerated.
Really? Flushing toliets and all that? My god, they must have even surpassed
the Romans, what with their central heating and all!
>Africa is also the only continent in which human society achieved the
>perfect balance between work and leisure.
I suppose this has a lot to do with the attitudes toward work of the blacks
in America today.
>As for African-Americans, what was done to them by your ethnic subset
>is shameful.
It was a shame that these people were made slaves and taken out of their
native country, on that I will agree with you; I wish it had never happened.
It was done by your ethnic subset as well, though, Micheil, I am not the
only descendant of those people who considered the peculiar institution to
be an economically expedient practice. Very few of my ancestors partook of
this practice, and those who did are all dead, along with their slaves. It
is a dead issue.
>I spit on you. I spit on your puerile, social-climbing pretensions. I
>spit on your dishonoured name. I spit on your ancestors and on their
>memory. I spit on your descendants if they grow up to be as nasty a
>nest of racists as their pox-rotted forebear.
>
>I spit on everything connected with you. If I happen across your
>grave, I will piss on it and topple your tombstone face downwards to
>show my complete and total contempt for you. If there is justice, your
>family name will be erased from the memories of decent men and women.
Now, there you see, you are not immune to prejudice either. The venom you
are filled with far surpasses the disdain that I feel towards a certain
class or race of people. I focus my energies more on preserving the
integrity of my own culture than I do with hating any people. You are a
schizophrenic hyppocrite who has pretensions of tollerance but who cannot
tollerate those who disagree with him. It's nice to see what you are all
about Micheil.
Ian O. Morrison
> Oh, right up there with Picaso, eh?
Picasso was inspired to produce many of his finest works by studying
the techniques and subject matter of African art.
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Séimí mac Liam
Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk <sja...@sonet.net> wrote in message
news:oIZK4.579$Pn....@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>
Snipped.
exhuberent prices?
Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk
Séimí mac Liam wrote in message <9A_K4.122$pK4....@typhoon.aracnet.com>...
>
>Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk <sja...@sonet.net> wrote in message
>news:oIZK4.579$Pn....@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>>
>Snipped.
>
>exhuberent prices?
Sorry, it should have been exuberant.
Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk
Ian O. Morrison wrote in message <8dhrjf$l0q$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>In article <oIZK4.579$Pn....@newsfeed.slurp.net>,><re Benin bronzes>
>
>> Oh, right up there with Picaso, eh?
>
>the techniques and subject matter of African art.
Really, he could have done just as well to have studied the techniques and
subject matter of kindergarden art students.
Andrew Grogan
What enabled blacks to break out of slavery was the Declaration of Independence &
the Constitution. Blacks have every chance and then some to be successful in
America. Trust me, corporations are controlled by lawyers in America and 99% of
them (regardless of their private feelings) so to it that rascism is practiced.
Everytime you see a famous UK women topless on the front pages of the newspapers
over there do you think that all famous UK women must run around topless all the
time? Or do you realize they're attempting to manipulate you?
Micheil wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Apr 2000 14:00:56 -0000, "Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk"
> <sja...@sonet.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >junk...@netscape.net wrote in message <8dfhi1$3jn$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
> >
> >
> >>I'm afraid you presuppose that Akins actually wants to know the facts.
> >>Ignorance is bliss and there are few more ignorant than those who _want_
> >>to remain ignorant.
> >
> >
> >I'm afraid that you presuppose that anyone other than sub-Sarahan Africans
> >would be interested in studying what is for all practical purposes the most
> >inconsequential of world cultures to have failed to evolve on this planet.
> >To remain ignorant of trivial facts regarding that which is of no
> >consequence is to have used one's time more wisely than those who fawn over
> >such shite.
> >
> >Steven Akins of that Ilk
> >sja...@sonet.net
>
> It will therefore twitch your fossilized brain to know that Nigeria
> had a stock exchange and an excellent postal system in the 1400s, and
> that Benin bronzes created by that culture are universally considered
> to have taken their place among the world's great art works. Indeed,
> Mr. Morrison may even have a few examples of the last in his excellent
> museum in Edinburgh.
>
> I think it would be true to say that many Africans enjoyed a higher
> standard of living than most Highlanders up until the 1850s. The Akins
> family should be humbled to think that their allegedly Highland
> ancestors lived in a way which many Africans would not have tolerated.
>
> Africa is also the only continent in which human society achieved the
> perfect balance between work and leisure.
>
> As for African-Americans, what was done to them by your ethnic subset
> is shameful.
>
> It shames Scotland because so many black-haters came from there; it
> shames your country because you have just shown the world by what you
> write that your much-vaunted Declaration of Independence is a
> bald-faced lie as far as your black fellow citizens are concerned.
>
> The criminal acts of many black city dwellers today are more than
> counterbalanced by even the far larger number of African-Americans who
> strive to lead exemplary lives and whose members are now starting to
> fill the upper levels of American public life.
>
> I think that Colin Powell could have had an excellent chance of
> becoming President - he was asked to run but declined, saying he
> didn't want to expose his family to the dangers that being a black
> President would involve as every racist cretin like you would have
> actively encouraged some half-witted extremist to murder him.
>
> I'd far sooner have Colin Powell as President than that racist
> bastard, George Wallace, an international joke after his whining about
> "repentance" after the game got too rough for the cowardly wimp.
>
> I question why you are still befouling this newsgroup.
>
> Stop passing yourself off as a Scot. You smear the good name of our
> people and our country by claiming to be one of us.
>
> Get out of here - you disgust me with your racist shite.
>
> I spit on you. I spit on your puerile, social-climbing pretensions. I
> spit on your dishonoured name. I spit on your ancestors and on their
> memory. I spit on your descendants if they grow up to be as nasty a
> nest of racists as their pox-rotted forebear.
>
> I spit on everything connected with you. If I happen across your
> grave, I will piss on it and topple your tombstone face downwards to
> show my complete and total contempt for you. If there is justice, your
> family name will be erased from the memories of decent men and women.
>
Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk
Ian O. Morrison wrote in message <8dh3ui$rhr$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>In article <K%IK4.115$L5....@newsfeed.slurp.net>,
> "Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk" <sja...@sonet.net> wrote:
>
>> I'm afraid that you presuppose that anyone other than sub-Sarahan
>Africans
>> would be interested in studying what is for all practical purposes
>the most
>> inconsequential of world cultures to have failed to evolve on this
>planet.
>> To remain ignorant of trivial facts regarding that which is of no
>> consequence is to have used one's time more wisely than those who
>fawn over
>> such shite.
>
>down!
>
>For a start - Africa has more cultural diversity than the rest of the
>world put together........
>
>For a finish - where on Earth did humans originate? Oh - d*mm*t I
>forgot - according to Akins et ilk we were probably "created".
>
>There is no more important subject for human enquiry than the origins
>of humans - as someone, more or less, once said.
I believe that most people would concur that it is far more important where
the human species has been and what they have done since they were first
spawned in some Mesopotamian mud-puddle, than it is to study what our
pre-human ancestors were like and how they lived before they evolved.
Stephen Hamilton
> Séimí mac Liam wrote in message <9A_K4.122$pK4....@typhoon.aracnet.com>...
> >
> >Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk <sja...@sonet.net> wrote in message
> >news:oIZK4.579$Pn....@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> >>
> >Snipped.
> >
> >exhuberent prices?
>
> Sorry, it should have been exuberant.
>
> Steven Akins of that Ilk
> sja...@sonet.net
As long as they weren't exorbitant. That would be too much to bear!
Séimí mac Liam
Stephen Hamilton <hota...@vol.com> wrote in message
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> Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk wrote:
>
> > Séimí mac Liam wrote in message
<9A_K4.122$pK4....@typhoon.aracnet.com>...
> > >
> > >Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk <sja...@sonet.net> wrote in
message
> > >news:oIZK4.579$Pn....@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > >>
> > >Snipped.
> > >
> > >exhuberent prices?
> >
> > Sorry, it should have been exuberant.
> >
>
>
>
Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk
Séimí mac Liam wrote in message ...
>
>Stephen Hamilton <hota...@vol.com> wrote in message
>news:38FC8DBF...@vol.com...
>> Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk wrote:
>>
>> > Séimí mac Liam wrote in message
><9A_K4.122$pK4....@typhoon.aracnet.com>...
>> > >
>> > >Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk <sja...@sonet.net> wrote in
>message
>> > >news:oIZK4.579$Pn....@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> > >>
>> > >Snipped.
>> > >
>> > >exhuberent prices?
>> >
>> > Sorry, it should have been exuberant.
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>I don't think that means what he thinks it means.
Here's what they both mean, my pedantic little friends:
From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) (web1913)
Exorbitant \Ex*or"bi*tant\, a. [L. exorbitans, -antis, p. pr. of exorbitare
to go out of the track; ex out + orbita track: cf. F. exorbitant. See
{Orbit}.] 1. Departing from an orbit or usual track; hence, deviating from
the usual or due course; going beyond the appointed rules or established
limits of right or propriety; excessive; extravagant; enormous; inordinate;
as, exorbitant appetites and passions; exorbitant charges, demands, or
claims.
From WordNet (r) 1.6 (wn)
exorbitant adj : greatly exceeding bounds of reason or moderation;
"exorbitant rent"; "extortionate prices"; "spends an outrageous amount on
entertainment"; "usorious interest rate"; "unconscionable spending" [syn:
{extortionate}, {outrageous}, {steep}, {unconscionable}, {usurious}]
>> From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary
>> Exuberant \Ex*u"ber*ant\, a. [L. exuberans, exuberantis, p. pr. of
exuberare
>> to be abundant; ex + uberare to be fruitful, fr. uber fruitful, fertile,
>> uber udder: cf. F. exub['e]rant. See {Udder}.] Characterized by abundance
or
>> superabundance; plenteous; rich; overflowing; copious or excessive in
>> production; as, exuberant goodness; an exuberant intellect; exuberant
>> foliage. ``Exuberant spring.'' --Thomson. -- {Ex*u"ber*ant*ly}, adv.
>>
>> From WordNet (r) 1.6 (wn)
>> exuberant adj 1: joyously unrestrained [syn: {ebullient},
{high-spirited}]
>> 2: unrestrained in especially feelings; "extravagant praise"; "exuberant
>> compliments"; "overweening ambition"; "overweening greed" [syn:
{excessive},
>> {extravagant}, {overweening}] 3: produced or growing in extreme
abundance
Séimí mac Liam
Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk <sja...@sonet.net> wrote in message
news:KG0L4.675$Pn....@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>
> Séimí mac Liam wrote in message ...
> >
> >Stephen Hamilton <hota...@vol.com> wrote in message
> >news:38FC8DBF...@vol.com...
> >> Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk wrote:
> >>
> >> > Séimí mac Liam wrote in message
> ><9A_K4.122$pK4....@typhoon.aracnet.com>...
> >> > >
> >> > >Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk <sja...@sonet.net> wrote in
> >message
> >> > >news:oIZK4.579$Pn....@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> >> > >>
> >> > >Snipped.
> >> > >
> >> > >exhuberent prices?
> >> >
> >> > Sorry, it should have been exuberant.
> >> >
bear!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >I don't think that means what he thinks it means.
>
>
Yes, my thick friend and we both know that common usage is that prices
are exorbitant and laughter is exuberant. But mostly, you ignorant
git, you missed the fact that my statement was a paraphrase of a line
from the movie "The Princess Bride", spoken by the character Inego
Montoya. "I don't think that means what you think it means,"
snipped, the ultimate pedantry of quotin the dictionary,
>
> Steven Akins of that Ilk
Ilk?
Stephen Hamilton
> Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk <sja...@sonet.net> wrote in message
> news:KG0L4.675$Pn....@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> >
> > Séimí mac Liam wrote in message ...
> >
> > >>
> > >I don't think that means what he thinks it means.
> >
> >
> > Here's what they both mean, my pedantic little friends:\
> snipped, the ultimate pedantry of quotin the dictionary,
> >
Pedantic. Is that the other ocean across from the padific?
(BTW did you know that roast hazelnuts, finely ground, make a wonderful
flavour additive to pipe tobacco? )
MacRobert
Stephen Hamilton
> On Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:30:55 -0400, Stephen Hamilton <hota...@vol.com>
> wrote:
>
> >As long as they weren't exorbitant. That would be too much to bear!
>
> Maybe they were exuberantly exorbitant.
>
> MacHamish Mór
Ehhh, would that be from the buyer or vendor's point of view? The screwer or
screwee, as it were....
MacRobert
junk...@netscape.net
Mic...@Ireland.com (Micheil) wrote:
[snipped Micheil in full effect]
Stop shilly-shallying Micheil. What do you really think of
him?
God help me, I'm agreeing with Micheil. Just what's the
world coming to?
--
- - - - A Sinclair Production - - - -
The junkspike address does exactly what it
says: a spike for junkmail. Don't email me there.
Séimí mac Liam
hallucinogenic effect to burnt hazelnuts?
Shawn Kilpatrick
Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk wrote in message ...
>Here's what they both mean, my pedantic little friends:
>
Hey, this looks like fun! May I try a few, Steven?
From the Oxford English Dictionary:
pretentious adj. 1 making an excessive claim to great merit or importance.
2 ostentatious. [pretentiously adv. pretentiousness n.]
racism n. 1 a a belief in the superiority of a particular race; prejudice
based on this. b antagonism towards other races, esp. as a result of this.
2 the theory that human abilities etc. are determined by race. [racist n. &
adj.]
idiot n. 1 colloq. a stupid person; an utter fool. 2 a person deficient in
mind and permanently incapable of rational conduct. [idiotic adj.
idiotically adv.]
Steven Akins of that Ilk p.n. 1 a pretentious, racist idiot.
SK
Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk
Séimí mac Liam wrote in message ...
>Yes, my thick friend and we both know that common usage is that prices
>are exorbitant and laughter is exuberant. But mostly, you ignorant
>git, you missed the fact that my statement was a paraphrase of a line
>from the movie "The Princess Bride", spoken by the character Inego
>Montoya. "I don't think that means what you think it means,"
>
>
>snipped, the ultimate pedantry of quotin the dictionary,
>>
>> Steven Akins of that Ilk
>Ilk?
Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk
Séimí mac Liam wrote in message ...
>Yes, my thick friend and we both know that common usage is that prices
>are exorbitant and laughter is exuberant. But mostly, you ignorant
>git, you missed the fact that my statement was a paraphrase of a line
>from the movie "The Princess Bride", spoken by the character Inego
>Montoya. "I don't think that means what you think it means,"
Of course I missed it, I didn't see that particular movie. The title seems
vaguely familiar, when was it released and who were the actors? Sounds like
a romantic comedy, not the sort of thing I go out of my way to watch. I was
trying to remember the last movie I actually did go to see and I can't
really recall. I t would have been prior to my son being born, and he is 3
1/2, maybe it was Bridges of Madison County? Mostly we wait for the movies
to come out on video and watch them at home.
Lachie Macquarie
<Mic...@Ireland.com> writes
>On Mon, 17 Apr 2000 14:00:56 -0000, "Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk"
><sja...@sonet.net> wrote:
>
SNiP
>Stop passing yourself off as a Scot. You smear the good name of our
>people and our country by claiming to be one of us.
>
>Get out of here - you disgust me with your racist shite.
>
>I spit on you. I spit on your puerile, social-climbing pretensions. I
>spit on your dishonoured name. I spit on your ancestors and on their
>memory. I spit on your descendants if they grow up to be as nasty a
>nest of racists as their pox-rotted forebear.
>
>I spit on everything connected with you. If I happen across your
>grave, I will piss on it and topple your tombstone face downwards to
>show my complete and total contempt for you. If there is justice, your
>family name will be erased from the memories of decent men and women.
>
>You are a broken man. Leave this group, who find you so utterly
>repugnant to their sense of decency, alone.
>
>
>- měcheil
>
>- innis dhomh sgéile mu 'n Thěr nan Ňg......
>
>-------------------------------------o0o--------------------------------------
>The Blessed Fr. Měcheil ŕ Talisker et Lagavulin, S.J.
>-------------------------------------o0o--------------------------------------
God blind me, there will be no tete a tete over mint juleps in Alabama
then?
Who taught you how to curse?
Bill Potter
>
> On Mon, 17 Apr 2000 14:00:56 -0000, "Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk"
> <sja...@sonet.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >>I'm afraid you presuppose that Akins actually wants to know the facts.
> >>Ignorance is bliss and there are few more ignorant than those who _want_
> >>to remain ignorant.
> >
> >
> >would be interested in studying what is for all practical purposes the most
> >inconsequential of world cultures to have failed to evolve on this planet.
> >To remain ignorant of trivial facts regarding that which is of no
> >consequence is to have used one's time more wisely than those who fawn over
> >such shite.
> >
> >sja...@sonet.net
< Quite a lot snipped but do read it up the chain. It's worth it. >
> Get out of here - you disgust me with your racist shite.
>
> I spit on you. I spit on your puerile, social-climbing pretensions. I
> spit on your dishonoured name. I spit on your ancestors and on their
> memory. I spit on your descendants if they grow up to be as nasty a
> nest of racists as their pox-rotted forebear.
>
> I spit on everything connected with you. If I happen across your
> grave, I will piss on it and topple your tombstone face downwards to
> show my complete and total contempt for you. If there is justice, your
> family name will be erased from the memories of decent men and women.
>
> You are a broken man. Leave this group, who find you so utterly
> repugnant to their sense of decency, alone.
>
> - měcheil
I could not agree more. Coming across a message from Akins van der Ilk in
someone else's post, for he is long kill-filed in my newsreader, is like coming
across a pile of cold sick. It make me too want to boke.
--
William Potter - bpo...@mediaone.net
Séimí mac Liam
Lachie Macquarie <Lac...@lachiemacq.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:t6kMDbB3tO$4E...@lachiemacq.demon.co.uk...
> In article <qV0L4.142$pK4....@typhoon.aracnet.com>, Séimí mac Liam
> <gwy...@aracnet.com> writes
> >
> >Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk <sja...@sonet.net> wrote in
message
> >news:KG0L4.675$Pn....@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> >>
> >> Séimí mac Liam wrote in message ...
> >> >
> >> >> Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Séimí mac Liam wrote in message
> >> >message
> >> >> > >news:oIZK4.579$Pn....@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >Snipped.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >exhuberent prices?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Sorry, it should have been exuberant.
> >> >> >
> >bear!
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Here's what they both mean, my pedantic little friends:\
> >
> >Yes, my thick friend and we both know that common usage is that
prices
> >are exorbitant and laughter is exuberant. But mostly, you ignorant
> >git, you missed the fact that my statement was a paraphrase of a
line
> >from the movie "The Princess Bride", spoken by the character Inego
> >Montoya. "I don't think that means what you think it means,"
> >
> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >--
> >Saint Séimí mac Liam
> >Carriagemaker to the court of Queen Maeve
> >My eyes are hazel as well as my nuts"
> >Canonized December '99
> >
> >
> >
> >
> quote from the that wonderful epic Ljuset Håller mig Sällskap
directed
> by Carl-Gustav Nykvist, most people have visited Wichita Falls for
the
> director's cut.
>
>
> By the way have you seen Kvinnorna på Taket by the same director?
> --
> Lachie Macquarie, Bod an Deamhain I wish.
So he's the Ilk of somewhere in Scandewhovia, then?
Stephen Hamilton
> Stephen Hamilton <hota...@vol.com> wrote in message
>
> >
> > (BTW did you know that roast hazelnuts, finely ground, make a
> wonderful
> > flavour additive to pipe tobacco? )
> >
> Did you know that there was reputed by the ancient Celts to be an
> hallucinogenic effect to burnt hazelnuts?
Hold on for the reply. . .<swat swat> seems to be a bunch of flying
flaming ilksects. . . <swat swat> buzzing around stepping on their own
cranks. . . <swat swat>
Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk
Micheil wrote in message <38fd19f3...@news.primus.ca>...
>What Micheil is all about is a healthy disgust for those lepers of
>society who cannot look beyond a person's skin to see what sort of
>person dwells therein.
Skin color? Who has said anything about skin color? That comes in an
infinite array of shades, ranging from lily-white to tar black. My
estimation of people (or lack thereof) is not tied to their skin color, but
to the behaviors which they exhibit as are accepted by the cultural group to
which they belong. The fact that certain individuals who display a
propensity to behave in a certain way has to do with what is considered
acceptable within their community. Their skin color is merely incidental.
>We have looked into your heart and all we see is black rot. You are
>not a Scot, nor an American; you are a disease called racism.
Yes, that's the self-exhalted judgemental sort of attitude I would expect
from a hyppocrite such as yourself.
>Why are you still here? Why have you not left this group? Get out! We
>are sick of the foul smell of you in our nostrils.
Because I am a part of "this group", does it bother you that you must live
in a society where not everyone is to your liking? Are you vexed by the fact
that you cannot live in a segregated little world where you don't have to be
around people that you don't care for? WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD!!!!!!!!
Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk
Jon Croft wrote in message <38fd2840....@nntp.we.mediaone.net>...
>On Tue, 18 Apr 2000 09:00:52 -0000, "Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk"
><sja...@sonet.net> wrote:
>
>>Indeed? And do they now? What happened to this Nigerian Wall Street? Did
the
>>price of watermelon futures suddenly plummet sending their traders to jump
>>to their deaths from the tops of their grass and mud huts?
>
>
>>No, in their homelands they spend most of their time starving to death and
>>dying of A.I.D.S.. I think that there is a lower crime rate because there
is
>>nothing to steal, unless you happen to covet your neighbor's nose-bone to
>>the point that you cannot see living without it and you break into his hut
>>one night and attempt to pull the prized nasal ornament out of his mucous
>>membrane without waking him. I would think that their tribal blood-letting
>>ceremonies might also serve to satisfy their appitite for the sort of
>>knifings and shootings their exiled kinsmen in America seem to resort to.
>
>Nigel: Yes, ladies and gentleman, the judges have relented and have
>declared Mr. Akins the winner!
Admit it, you laughed so hard from reading the two above-quoted excerpts
that you had milk shooting out of your nose from your morning bowl of
corn-flakes.
Séimí mac Liam
Glen Cook <coo...@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
news:20000418215341...@ng-fy1.aol.com...
> >Everytime you see a famous UK women topless on the front pages of
the
> >newspapers
> >over there do you think that all famous UK women must run around
topless all
> >the
> >time?
>
true!
I saw one. In the Exchange Hotel in Harogate about 35 years ago.
After about a week, I gathered my eye bones up of the floor and went
back to the lounge bar.
Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk
Jon Croft wrote in message <38fd2f3a....@nntp.we.mediaone.net>...
>>Micheil wrote in message <38fd19f3...@news.primus.ca>...
>>>What Micheil is all about is a healthy disgust for those lepers of
>>>society who cannot look beyond a person's skin to see what sort of
>>>person dwells therein.
>
>>Skin color? Who has said anything about skin color?
>
>You did, Mr. Ilk. You *constantly* refer to "blacks" and "negroes"
>when spouting off.
Yes, those are two of the less offensive names given to a certain group of
people belonging to a certain ethnic culture, I tend to think of
blacks/negroes/Africans as being a distinctive group of people, regardless
of what color their skin is. Some are quite light, others are rather dark,
the same holds true of persons of European descent. I had a great
grandmother who was of Welsh descent, her skin, eyes and hair color were
dark compared to that of some people's, yet she belonged to a decidely
Euopean or more specifically British ethnic group.
>You specifically have based your assumptions on
>race, not culture. As Ian Ogylvie Morrison pointed out, Africa has a
>tremendous number of individual cultures, so you must be talking about
>skin color. I would actually agree with some of what you say if you
>were to make your broad assumptions based on culture alone. There is
>no question that different cultures have different values, and most of
>us find some of these cultural differences to be negative. I'm not
>particularly thrilled about Spanish bull fighting, for example, and I
>don't think it's racist for me to say that. However, I don't assume
>that *all* Spainish people support this barbaric sport, and it has
>nothing to do with the color of their skin.
>If you were to say that you detested the behavior of the criminal
>sub-culture, then I don't think you'd get much disagreement. Your
>problem is that you seem to assume that all blacks are criminals, and
>that whites can't act just as badly. This assumption of yours
>*clearly* isn't the case, so why don't you save your anger for the
>individuals who make up this sub-culture, rather than to the race
>which you assume it is made up of? There are a lot more whites than
>blacks on welfare for example, yet you point the finger just at
>blacks.
The African-Americans make up merely 12 percent of the U.S. population, yet
they represent a full 40 percent of the individuals prosecuted for felonies
in the U.S., again, I don't think it is the melanin in their skin which is
responsible for this, but it is their cultural values (or lack thereof)
which is the primary cause.
> How can you say that you are not basing your assumptions on
>skin color? (And don't bother arguing about the percentages involved,
>because a huge number of whites *are* on welfare, therefore it can't
>be just a black problem.)
Actually the numbers of the welfare rolls have dropped dramatically, however
if one looks at the breakdown of the relative percentage of
African-Americans vs. European-Americans, the statistics still say that a
higher proportion of the African-American population receives welfare
compared to the percentage of European-Americans. In point of interest, here
are some statistics that you might want to consider (this is only about the
various divisions of European-Americans and does not involve
African-Americans, who as one might expect, fall below the lowest
European-Americans in every catagory:
This is from an Associated Press newspaper article which appeared in 1980:
"Americans of Scottish descent tend to be better educated and have higher
incomes than other European based ethnic groups, according to a new Census
Bureau study.
"Based on a survey taken in late 1979, the study said Americans who traced
their ancestry to Scotland had median family incomes of $20,018, highest of
eight single ancestry groups studied.
"Second in family income were those of German background, at $17,531, while
those of Spanish background had the lowest median income at $10,607.
"The Scots were the only group to record no illiteracy in the survey, had
the lowest unemployment rate at 2.1%, and the highest rate of high school
graduates, 81.2%.
"The study looked at characteristics of Americans of English, French,
German, Irish, Italian, Polish, Scottish and Spanish descent.
"Among them, those of Spanish descent, 30.3% were most likely to have been
born outside the United States. The Italians were a distant second at 13.1%,
while only 2.7% of the Irish were born outside the United States.
"Scots recorded the highest proportion of married men, at 79.6%, followed by
75.5% for those of French extraction. The lowest male marriage rate was
62.8% among the Spanish.
Among women, the French were most likely to be wed, at 68.6%, with Germans
second at 64.3%. Polish women were the least likely to be married, at 60.6%.
The highest divorce rates were 4.8% among Irish men and 6.6% for Spanish
women. At 3.5%, Polish men had the fewest divorces, as did Polish women at
4.3%.
Here are how the various groups fared statistically in some other social
characteristics:
"Male high school graduates: Scottish, 81.2%; English, 74.6%; German, 72.4%;
Irish, 68.8%; French, 67%; Polish, 64.4%; Italian, 62.7%; Spanish, 42.5%.
"Female high school graduates: Scottish, 78.1%; English, 76.7%; German, 72%;
Irish, 70%; French, 65.7%; Italian, 60.4%; Polish, 59.1%; Spanish, 40.5%.
"Unemployment: Scottish, 2.1%; German, 3.1%; English, 3.6%; Italian, 4.7%;
Irish, 5%; Polish, 5.4%; French, 5.6%; Spanish, 9%.
"Median family income: Scottish, $20.018 ; German, $17,531; Italian,
$16,993; Polish, $16,977; English, $16,891; Irish, $16,092; French, $15,571;
Spanish, $10,607"
Lachie Macquarie
<gwy...@aracnet.com> writes
>
>Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk <sja...@sonet.net> wrote in message
>news:KG0L4.675$Pn....@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>>
>> Séimí mac Liam wrote in message ...
>> >
>> >> Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Séimí mac Liam wrote in message
>> ><9A_K4.122$pK4....@typhoon.aracnet.com>...
>> >> > >
>> >message
>> >> > >news:oIZK4.579$Pn....@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >Snipped.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >exhuberent prices?
>> >> >
>> >> > Sorry, it should have been exuberant.
>> >> >
>bear!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >I don't think that means what he thinks it means.
>>
>>
>> Here's what they both mean, my pedantic little friends:\
>
>Yes, my thick friend and we both know that common usage is that prices
>are exorbitant and laughter is exuberant. But mostly, you ignorant
>git, you missed the fact that my statement was a paraphrase of a line
>from the movie "The Princess Bride", spoken by the character Inego
>Montoya. "I don't think that means what you think it means,"
>
>
>snipped, the ultimate pedantry of quotin the dictionary,
>>
>
>
>--
>Saint Séimí mac Liam
>Carriagemaker to the court of Queen Maeve
>My eyes are hazel as well as my nuts"
>Canonized December '99
>
>
>
>
Joe Finlay
ox.com> writes
>Hey!
>
>What enabled blacks to break out of slavery was the Declaration of Independence
>&
>the Constitution. Blacks have every chance and then some to be successful in
>America. Trust me, corporations are controlled by lawyers in America and 99% of
>them (regardless of their private feelings) so to it that rascism is practiced.
The DOI or the Constitution did bugger all for the black slaves or the
Native Americans for that matter.
>Everytime you see a famous UK women topless on the front pages of the newspapers
>over there do you think that all famous UK women must run around topless all the
>time? Or do you realize they're attempting to manipulate you?
Don't they?. They can manipulate me as many times as they can manage, as
long as they wash their hands first.
--
Joe Finlay
Glen Cook
>newspapers
>over there do you think that all famous UK women must run around topless all
>the
>time?
And boy was I disapointed when I got there and found out it wasn't true!
Glen Cook
Coo...@aol.com
Micheil
>In article <38fbc0e4...@news.primus.ca>,
> Mic...@Ireland.com (Micheil) wrote:
>
>[snipped Micheil in full effect]
>
>Stop shilly-shallying Micheil. What do you really think of
>him?
>
>God help me, I'm agreeing with Micheil. Just what's the
>world coming to?
>
Common decency is a powerful peacemaker.
Micheil
<Lac...@lachiemacq.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <38fbc0e4...@news.primus.ca>, Micheil
><Mic...@Ireland.com> writes
>>On Mon, 17 Apr 2000 14:00:56 -0000, "Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk"
>><sja...@sonet.net> wrote:
>>
>
>
>SNiP
>>Stop passing yourself off as a Scot. You smear the good name of our
>>people and our country by claiming to be one of us.
>>
>>Get out of here - you disgust me with your racist shite.
>>
>>I spit on you. I spit on your puerile, social-climbing pretensions. I
>>spit on your dishonoured name. I spit on your ancestors and on their
>>memory. I spit on your descendants if they grow up to be as nasty a
>>nest of racists as their pox-rotted forebear.
>>
>>I spit on everything connected with you. If I happen across your
>>grave, I will piss on it and topple your tombstone face downwards to
>>show my complete and total contempt for you. If there is justice, your
>>family name will be erased from the memories of decent men and women.
>>
>>You are a broken man. Leave this group, who find you so utterly
>>repugnant to their sense of decency, alone.
>>
>>
>>- měcheil
>>
>>- innis dhomh sgéile mu 'n Thěr nan Ňg......
>>
>>-------------------------------------o0o--------------------------------------
>>The Blessed Fr. Měcheil ŕ Talisker et Lagavulin, S.J.
>>-------------------------------------o0o--------------------------------------
>
>God blind me, there will be no tete a tete over mint juleps in Alabama
>then?
>
>Who taught you how to curse?
>--
>Lachie Macquarie, Bod an Deamhain I wish.
It's an old tradition.
Micheil
<sja...@sonet.net> wrote:
>
>Micheil wrote in message <38fbc0e4...@news.primus.ca>...
>>I spit on you. I spit on your puerile, social-climbing pretensions. I
>>spit on your dishonoured name. I spit on your ancestors and on their
>>memory. I spit on your descendants if they grow up to be as nasty a
>>nest of racists as their pox-rotted forebear.
>>
>>I spit on everything connected with you. If I happen across your
>>grave, I will piss on it and topple your tombstone face downwards to
>>show my complete and total contempt for you. If there is justice, your
>>family name will be erased from the memories of decent men and women.
>
>
>Now, there you see, you are not immune to prejudice either. The venom you
>are filled with far surpasses the disdain that I feel towards a certain
>class or race of people. I focus my energies more on preserving the
>integrity of my own culture than I do with hating any people. You are a
>schizophrenic hyppocrite who has pretensions of tollerance but who cannot
>tollerate those who disagree with him. It's nice to see what you are all
>about Micheil.
What Micheil is all about is a healthy disgust for those lepers of
society who cannot look beyond a person's skin to see what sort of
person dwells therein.
We have looked into your heart and all we see is black rot. You are
not a Scot, nor an American; you are a disease called racism.
Why are you still here? Why have you not left this group? Get out! We
are sick of the foul smell of you in our nostrils.
- měcheil
Rob...@your.beckon.org
Surely, you must live too close to a BC hashish den!
You may want to be a bit more careful of your manner of speech, in case
your Canadian speech scrutiny counsel should catch wind of it. ;>
Jon Croft
<sja...@sonet.net> wrote:
>Indeed? And do they now? What happened to this Nigerian Wall Street? Did the
>price of watermelon futures suddenly plummet sending their traders to jump
>to their deaths from the tops of their grass and mud huts?
And
>No, in their homelands they spend most of their time starving to death and
>dying of A.I.D.S.. I think that there is a lower crime rate because there is
>nothing to steal, unless you happen to covet your neighbor's nose-bone to
>the point that you cannot see living without it and you break into his hut
>one night and attempt to pull the prized nasal ornament out of his mucous
>membrane without waking him. I would think that their tribal blood-letting
>ceremonies might also serve to satisfy their appitite for the sort of
>knifings and shootings their exiled kinsmen in America seem to resort to.
Nigel: Yes, ladies and gentleman, the judges have relented and have
declared Mr. Akins the winner!
Now, please stay tuned for the Great Scottish Curse and Insult War,
featuring Micheil and Larry@Home as our finalists. Our guest analyst
will be Lin Dores.
This Nigel Bundy wishing you a good evening.
Jon Croft
blue...@prodigy.net
Jon Croft
blue...@prodigy.net
Jon Croft
<sja...@sonet.net> wrote:
>Micheil wrote in message <38fd19f3...@news.primus.ca>...
>>What Micheil is all about is a healthy disgust for those lepers of
>>society who cannot look beyond a person's skin to see what sort of
>>person dwells therein.
>Skin color? Who has said anything about skin color?
You did, Mr. Ilk. You *constantly* refer to "blacks" and "negroes"
when spouting off. You specifically have based your assumptions on
race, not culture. As Ian Ogylvie Morrison pointed out, Africa has a
tremendous number of individual cultures, so you must be talking about
skin color. I would actually agree with some of what you say if you
were to make your broad assumptions based on culture alone. There is
no question that different cultures have different values, and most of
us find some of these cultural differences to be negative. I'm not
particularly thrilled about Spanish bull fighting, for example, and I
don't think it's racist for me to say that. However, I don't assume
that *all* Spainish people support this barbaric sport, and it has
nothing to do with the color of their skin.
If you were to say that you detested the behavior of the criminal
sub-culture, then I don't think you'd get much disagreement. Your
problem is that you seem to assume that all blacks are criminals, and
that whites can't act just as badly. This assumption of yours
*clearly* isn't the case, so why don't you save your anger for the
individuals who make up this sub-culture, rather than to the race
which you assume it is made up of? There are a lot more whites than
blacks on welfare for example, yet you point the finger just at
blacks. How can you say that you are not basing your assumptions on
skin color? (And don't bother arguing about the percentages involved,
because a huge number of whites *are* on welfare, therefore it can't
be just a black problem.)
Jon Croft
blue...@prodigy.net
Jon Croft
<sja...@sonet.net> wrote:
>>>Indeed? And do they now? What happened to this Nigerian Wall Street? Did
>>>the price of watermelon futures suddenly plummet sending their traders to jump
>>>to their deaths from the tops of their grass and mud huts?
>>
>>And
>>
>>>No, in their homelands they spend most of their time starving to death and
>>>dying of A.I.D.S.. I think that there is a lower crime rate because there
>>>is nothing to steal, unless you happen to covet your neighbor's nose-bone to
>>>the point that you cannot see living without it and you break into his hut
>>>one night and attempt to pull the prized nasal ornament out of his mucous
>>>membrane without waking him. I would think that their tribal blood-letting
>>>ceremonies might also serve to satisfy their appitite for the sort of
>>>knifings and shootings their exiled kinsmen in America seem to resort to.
>Admit it, you laughed so hard from reading the two above-quoted excerpts
>that you had milk shooting out of your nose from your morning bowl of
>corn-flakes.
I am neither a hypocrite *nor* politcally correct, and I freely admit
that I found them extremely funny. I rarely laugh out loud at what I
read here, but the "watermelon" line got me. However funny I found
them, however, I found the sentiment behind them distasteful, to say
the least. I would put it in the catagory of Dead Baby jokes.
(What's the difference between a truck-load of dead babies and a
truck-load of bowling balls? You can't unload the bowling balls with a
pitch fork! Yuk Yuk Yuk...) This type of "sick" humor is often
amusing, as long as the sentiment behind it is not taken seriously.
I'm not *completely* convinced that you are serious about all this, as
my long experience on usenet has taught me that Trolls lie thick on
the ground. For the sake of your children, I hope you're *not*
serious, because I'd really like to see racism die sometime during the
next millennium.
Somehow, I doubt it will...
Jon Croft
blue...@prodigy.net
Peter William Nisbet
> declared Mr. Akins the winner!
Darn! What can I say? I was outclassed but pure ignorance.
--------------------------------------------------------------
Peter William Nisbet
cst...@cee.hw.ac.uk
Ian O. Morrison
"Steven & Julie Akins of that Ilk" <sja...@sonet.net> wrote:
<re Picasso and African art>
> Really, he could have done just as well to have studied the
techniques and
> subject matter of kindergarden art students.
In YOUR opinion. An opinion not shared by those who know Picasso's work
and are capable of appreciating it (more than you would ever imagine).
--
Ian O. Morrison
http://homestead.deja.com/user.ian_o_morrison/index.html
Hostes alienigeni me abduxerunt
Ian O. Morrison
"Peter William Nisbet" <cee...@hw.ac.uk> wrote:
> Darn! What can I say? I was outclassed but pure ignorance.
If it is any consolation, I don't think that anyone, no matter how much
alcohol they consumed, could match the Ignorance Quotient of the
Incredible Ilk - the Barca of Ignorance. It is not just the one-off
ignorance displayed, but the digging of a deeper and deeper pit for
himself that so impressed the judges.
I have to agree with Jon that I have my suspicions about the winner's
integrity.