How to pronounce Moore?
HardySpicer
likewise. I say "Moo - re"
Hardy
HardySpicer
Oh and why I am at it I also notice many Yanks bastardising Scottish
names. McKay being pronounced Mc - Kay and not Mc Ki.
Hardy
jonny
Well you are a Moo - ron
Allan
"HardySpicer" <gyans...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I noticed that many *nglishmen pronounce it More. Even in NZ they do
> likewise. I say "Moo - re"
Just about the most famous Englishman called Moore in modern times would be
Bobby Moore and I can't recall his name ever being pronounced More!
Allan
conwaycaine
How might I bastard "Hardy Spicer"?
I am most eager to know that.
Allan
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> "conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in
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>> "HardySpicer" <gyans...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> On Sep 13, 3:08 am, HardySpicer <gyansor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I noticed that many *nglishmen pronounce it More. Even in NZ they do
>>> likewise. I say "Moo - re"
>>>
>>> Hardy
>>
>> Oh and why I am at it
>
>
>> I also notice many Yanks bastardising Scottish
>> names. McKay being pronounced Mc - Kay and not Mc Ki.
>
Certainly all the McKays I know pronounce it Mc-Eye though no doubt there
may be other pronounications too.
Allan
Allan
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>>>> "HardySpicer" <gyans...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>> m... On Sep 13, 3:08 am, HardySpicer <gyansor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I noticed that many *nglishmen pronounce it More. Even in NZ they
>>>>> do likewise. I say "Moo - re"
>>>>>
>>>>> Hardy
>>>>
>>>> Oh and why I am at it
>>>
>>> I don't know. Why are you at it?
>>>
>>>> I also notice many Yanks bastardising Scottish
>>>> names. McKay being pronounced Mc - Kay and not Mc Ki.
>>>
>>> Mc ki?? Shurely you mean Mc Eye?
>>
>> Certainly all the McKays I know pronounce it Mc-Eye though no doubt
>> there may be other pronounications too.
>
I suppose - though again all the McLeans I actually know pronounce it Mclane
:-)
Allan
Fifeshire Floozie
> "HardySpicer" <gyans...@gmail.com> wrote
>>I noticed that many *nglishmen pronounce it More. Even in NZ they do
>> likewise. I say "Moo - re"
>
> Just about the most famous Englishman called Moore in modern times
> would be Bobby Moore and I can't recall his name ever being
> pronounced More!
Not in the UK Allan, but in the colonies :-) And I must admit I have
to grit my teeth when I hear "Mc_ay" for "McEye". My best friend
(still living in Fife) was a McKay before she married.
La N
Ditto here.
btw, the uppity-ups in these parts pronounce Moore as "Mo-ah" :)
- nil
Allan
"Fifeshire Floozie" <htr.@faeFife.com> wrote in message
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> "Allan" <al...@noemail.co.uk> wrote
>> "HardySpicer" <gyans...@gmail.com> wrote
>
>>>I noticed that many *nglishmen pronounce it More. Even in NZ they do
>>> likewise. I say "Moo - re"
>>
>> Just about the most famous Englishman called Moore in modern times would
>> be Bobby Moore and I can't recall his name ever being pronounced More!
>
> Not in the UK Allan, but in the colonies :-)
I quite believe you but the original post suggests that many 'Englishmen'
pronounce it More! Another famous Moore that has come to mind is Brian Moore
the former English rugby player now TV pundit. Again I have only ever heard
him called Moore.
Allan
James Hogg
Most people in southern England pronounce "Moore" and "more" (and
"maw") identically, as in the old limericks:
There was a young lady named Moore
Who, while not quite precisely a whore,
Couldn't pass up a chance
To take down her pants,
And compare some man's stroke with her bore.
There was a young man of Jaipur
Whose cock was shot off in the War.
So he painted the front
To resemble a cunt,
And set himself up as a whore.
They don't rhyme as well in Scotland.
--
James
La N.
> Quoth "Allan" <al...@noemail.co.uk>, and I quote:
>
>
>
LOL! Good to see you, Mr. Hogg!!!!
- nilita
S Viemeister
>> I also notice many Yanks bastardising Scottish
>> names. McKay being pronounced Mc - Kay and not Mc Ki.
>
> Mc ki?? Shurely you mean Mc Eye?
>
It's not just North Americans who mispronounce MacKay - I once had to
have my uncle paged at Heathrow - and it came booming out of the
loudspeaker as 'Mac Eye'.
chicmac
>
> - Show quoted text -
I think Roger Moore is a bit more famous than Brian or Bobby.
Haven't heard it opronounced 'more' that I can recall.
Menzies could be the most famously mispronounced Scottish name.
Often to ryme with 'frenzies' but should be 'Mingis' or 'Mingus'.
conwaycaine
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Ah tempo!
Ah moo re!!
Allan
"chicmac" <mcgre...@sky.com> wrote in message
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**************************
Quite so I'd forgotten about Roger Moore! Cripes they are coming out of the
woodwork now!
Allan
James Hogg
Hear how he himself pronounces it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww2awdNe_zc&feature=fvw
--
James
James Hogg
>"Allan" <al...@noemail.co.uk> wrote
>> "HardySpicer" <gyans...@gmail.com> wrote
>
>>>I noticed that many *nglishmen pronounce it More. Even in NZ they do
>>> likewise. I say "Moo - re"
>>
>> Just about the most famous Englishman called Moore in modern times
>> would be Bobby Moore and I can't recall his name ever being
>> pronounced More!
>
>Not in the UK Allan, but in the colonies :-)
Australians don't distinguish between Moore and More. Nor do most
people in southern England any longer.
The same applies to "poor" and "pour/pore", which all sound
exactly like "paw". See if you can hear any difference between
southern English "paw"
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/En-uk-paw.ogg
and "poor"
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/14/En-uk-poor.ogg
I have to admire people who say they have lived half a century
and never heard Moore pronounced like More. It's takes some
determination to shut yourself off from England like that!
Scots will have no trouble with this test, but imagine how hard
it is for kids in Sydney or London:
http://espellwell.com/Pick%20Correct/paw%20poor%20pour/paw%20poor%20pour.swf
--
James
Cory Bhreckan
Mingus is also the name of a well known Scots folk musician.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU_RxWXijz0
--
"For the stronger we our houses do build,
The less chance we have of being killed." - William Topaz McGonagall
The Phantom Piper
wrote:
>
> Mingus is also the name of a well known Scots folk musician.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU_RxWXijz0
Damnit! You beat me to it! */:~}
The Late,
Phantom Piper
Fifeshire Floozie
> Australians don't distinguish between Moore and More. Nor do most
> people in southern England any longer.
>
> The same applies to "poor" and "pour/pore", which all sound
> exactly like "paw". See if you can hear any difference between
> southern English "paw"
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/En-uk-paw.ogg
> and "poor"
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/14/En-uk-poor.ogg
>
I couldn't open either one of these files James.
Allan
"James Hogg" <Jas....@gOUTmail.com> wrote in message
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This may be just as much about how our own hearing is atuned but (forgetting
that he isn't fully pronouncing the r) he's using an 'oo' for 'moor' rather
than an "oh" for 'more' to me. I suppose it is similar in that we have a
friend called Carol and another one called Carl. Claire can't make out which
one I'm talking about as she says I pronounce them exactly the same -
however they (they are both Scots) have no problem with which one I'm
addressing. Hence I am saying them differently it's just that she's not
attuned to it - which is a bit worrying after 22 years this comiong Friday.
Allan
James Hogg
It's a human tendency to hear what we want to hear. A machine
would be better able to tell us which people pronounce "Moore"
and "More" identically. There are plenty of such people, believe
me, "and they are on the increase" as it says at the bottom of
this page:
http://books.google.com/books?id=ghVrBE-UVYwC&pg=PA287
--
James
chicmac
> Quoth chicmac <mcgregor...@sky.com>, and I quote:
>
> - Show quoted text -
Right! So it is Moore not More.
James Hogg
The funny thing is, he says the name twice, and the first one
sounds like Moore while the second one is like More.
--
James
James Hogg
>Quoth chicmac <mcgre...@sky.com>, and I quote:
>>Right! So it is Moore not More.
>
>The funny thing is, he says the name twice, and the first one
>sounds like Moore while the second one is like More.
Sorry, it's in this video he says the name slightly differently
when he repeats it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDuxuvxtZgs
--
James
chicmac
> Quoth James Hogg <Jas.H...@gOUTmail.com>, and I quote:
>
> >Quoth chicmac <mcgregor...@sky.com>, and I quote:
> >>Right! So it is Moore not More.
>
> >The funny thing is, he says the name twice, and the first one
> >sounds like Moore while the second one is like More.
>
> Sorry, it's in this video he says the name slightly differently
> when he repeats it:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDuxuvxtZgs
>
> --
> James
Sorry, still hearing 'Moore' both times.
I think the attuning theory must be correct.
James Hogg
>On Sep 14, 9:47�am, James Hogg <Jas.H...@gOUTmail.com> wrote:
It's a pity he doesn't use the name Moore and the word "more" in
the same sentence. That way we could hear whether he is one of
the twenty million or so English people who pronounce the two
words identically.
--
James
conwaycaine
On Sep 13, 10:38 pm, James Hogg <Jas.H...@gOUTmail.com> wrote:
Right! So it is Moore not More.
******
"Moo er" indeed.
It is times like this I am reminded that British English and American
English are indeed two separate languages.
(will someone say "Jaguar" for me?)
chicmac
> Quoth chicmac <mcgregor...@sky.com>, and I quote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Sep 14, 9:47 am, James Hogg <Jas.H...@gOUTmail.com> wrote:
> >> Quoth James Hogg <Jas.H...@gOUTmail.com>, and I quote:
>
> >> >Quoth chicmac <mcgregor...@sky.com>, and I quote:
> >> >>Right! So it is Moore not More.
>
> >> >The funny thing is, he says the name twice, and the first one
> >> >sounds like Moore while the second one is like More.
>
> >> Sorry, it's in this video he says the name slightly differently
> >> when he repeats it:
>
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDuxuvxtZgs
>
> >> --
> >> James
>
> >Sorry, still hearing 'Moore' both times.
>
> >I think the attuning theory must be correct.
>
> It's a pity he doesn't use the name Moore and the word "more" in
> the same sentence. That way we could hear whether he is one of
> the twenty million or so English people who pronounce the two
> words identically.
>
> --
>
> - Show quoted text -
I doubt if there is even 20 million English people who pronounce just
the word 'more' the same as each other.
Fifeshire Floozie
> "Fifeshire Floozie" <htr.@faeFife.com> wrote:
> :"James Hogg" <Jas....@gOUTmail.com> wrote
>
> http://www.vorbis.com/
Thanks Fred, but is it really worth downloading and installing this to
listen to these two files. I'd probably never need it again.
Fifeshire Floozie
> "James Hogg" <Jas....@gOUTmail.com> wrote
>>>I think Roger Moore is a bit more famous than Brian or Bobby.
>>>Haven't heard it opronounced 'more' that I can recall.
>>
>> Hear how he himself pronounces it:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww2awdNe_zc&feature=fvw
>
> This may be just as much about how our own hearing is atuned but
> (forgetting that he isn't fully pronouncing the r) he's using an
> 'oo' for 'moor' rather than an "oh" for 'more' to me.
And I heard it quite clearly as "More" :)
James Hogg
>"Fred J. McCall" <fjmc...@gmail.com> wrote
It's useful for listening to sound examples in Wikipedia (of
which there are lots).
--
James
James Hogg
>"Allan" <al...@noemail.co.uk> wrote
You qualify as a phonetician. I was beginning to think I was
alone and needed my ears waxed.
--
James
HardySpicer
> "chicmac" <mcgregor...@sky.com> wrote in message
Jag - u er.
Also AL u min i um. (Though technically I suppose the American
version of Aluminum is right)
Hardy
HardySpicer
> Quoth "Fifeshire Floozie" <h...@faeFife.com>, and I quote:
>
> >"Allan" <al...@noemail.co.uk> wrote
> >> "James Hogg" <Jas.H...@gOUTmail.com> wrote
>
> >>>>I think Roger Moore is a bit more famous than Brian or Bobby.
> >>>>Haven't heard it opronounced 'more' that I can recall.
>
> >>> Hear how he himself pronounces it:
> >>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww2awdNe_zc&feature=fvw
>
> >> This may be just as much about how our own hearing is atuned but
> >> (forgetting that he isn't fully pronouncing the r) he's using an
> >> 'oo' for 'moor' rather than an "oh" for 'more' to me.
>
> >And I heard it quite clearly as "More" :)
>
> You qualify as a phonetician. I was beginning to think I was
> alone and needed my ears waxed.
>
> --
> James
That book is great! Explains it all. It should be Moo-re but some
pronounce it More - for sure.
What about Hoar? That is pronounces Hoor in Scotland.
Hardy
James Hogg
La N
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I'm guessing someone from Babylon.
Jeffrey Hamilton
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>>>>> m... On Sep 13, 3:08 am, HardySpicer <gyansor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I noticed that many *nglishmen pronounce it More. Even in NZ they
>>>>>> do likewise. I say "Moo - re"
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh and why I am at it
>>>>
>>>> I don't know. Why are you at it?
>>>>
>>>>> I also notice many Yanks bastardising Scottish
>>>>> names. McKay being pronounced Mc - Kay and not Mc Ki.
>>>>
>>>> Mc ki?? Shurely you mean Mc Eye?
>>>
>>> Certainly all the McKays I know pronounce it Mc-Eye though no doubt
>>> there may be other pronounications too.
>>
>> Like Mc Cleen for McLean?
>
> I suppose - though again all the McLeans I actually know pronounce it
> Mclane :-)
>
> Allan
There's an American comedic actress Mary Tyler Moore, who I've only ever
heard her name pronounced as More not Moor. Here is David Letterman
introducing her at about the .17 second mark. I believe he is using the
pronunciation, More.
cheers.....Jeff
Fifeshire Floozie
> There's an American comedic actress Mary Tyler Moore, who I've only
> ever heard her name pronounced as More not Moor. Here is David
> Letterman introducing her at about the .17 second mark. I believe he
> is using the pronunciation, More.
Forget something Jeff?>
conwaycaine
**********
Why do you people feel the need to drop R's and "Broad A" so many words?
Is it to entrance the tourists?
(BTW, that would be Jag - u - ahr)
Jeffrey Hamilton
erm.....sheesh.......Thankyou kindly Fifeshire.
_A-N-D_ Live from New York.................................. It's *David
Letterman*,
with tonights guest Mary Tyler Moore.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-uoBEj2h_w
cheers.......Jeff