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Craig Cockburn

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May 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/27/97
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I get asked this a lot, and it seems to get asked a lot here too. People
wanting to give their house a Gaelic name. Anyway, I've now found a book
which may help:

The book to get if you want to give your house a Gaelic name is
"Cuir ainm Gaidhlig air an taigh agad" (Give your home or cottage
a Scottish name) by David and Deborah Livingston-Lowe
ISBN 0-9681442-0-9. 44 pages. Includes English, Gaelic and phonetics.
Published by Celtica, 725 King Street West, Suite 507, Toronto ON
M5V 2W9 Canada.
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Gerald Tighe

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May 28, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/28/97
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Craig Cockburn wrote:
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> I get asked this a lot, and it seems to get asked a lot here too.
> People
> wanting to give their house a Gaelic name.
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Fir a Fifth of Glenmorangie abody is welcome tae

include four/fifths o mine in an amalgume.

regards

Gerald

Jack Campin

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May 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/30/97
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Craig Cockburn <cr...@scot.demon.co.uk> writes:
> I get asked this a lot, and it seems to get asked a lot here too. People
> wanting to give their house a Gaelic name.

There are a few people here I'd rather like to see setting up home behind
a pokerwork board saying "Dunpostin"...

Ruling-class plonkers and white settlers apart, is there really much
tradition in Scotland of people giving their houses names? The only
ones I can think of are isolated farmhouses and bothies in the Highlands
which could be thought of as being one-building hamlets; how many people
in towns and villages ever bothered?

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Craig Cockburn

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May 31, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/31/97
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Ann an sgriobhainn <28...@purr.demon.co.uk>, sgriobh Jack Campin
<ja...@purr.demon.co.uk>

>Ruling-class plonkers and white settlers apart, is there really much
>tradition in Scotland of people giving their houses names? The only
>ones I can think of are isolated farmhouses and bothies in the Highlands
>which could be thought of as being one-building hamlets; how many people
>in towns and villages ever bothered?
>

On the Doune Road in Dunblane, the first 48 houses have no number, only
names. They were built over 100 years ago. Meanwhile in Nova Scotia,
places that had names are being given numbers too to make life easier
for the fire brigade.

Micheil Rob Mac Phàdruig

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May 31, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/31/97
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ja...@purr.demon.co.uk (Jack Campin) wrote:


>Craig Cockburn <cr...@scot.demon.co.uk> writes:
>> I get asked this a lot, and it seems to get asked a lot here too. People
>> wanting to give their house a Gaelic name.

>There are a few people here I'd rather like to see setting up home behind
>a pokerwork board saying "Dunpostin"...

>Ruling-class plonkers and white settlers apart, is there really much


>tradition in Scotland of people giving their houses names? The only
>ones I can think of are isolated farmhouses and bothies in the Highlands
>which could be thought of as being one-building hamlets; how many people
>in towns and villages ever bothered?

I've known more houses with names than numbers in the Highlands.


Měcheil Rob MacPhŕdruig
Drůidh:duine-uasal


Sheena MacKenzie

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May 31, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/31/97
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In soc.culture.scottish Jack Campin <ja...@purr.demon.co.uk> wrote:

: Craig Cockburn <cr...@scot.demon.co.uk> writes:
: > I get asked this a lot, and it seems to get asked a lot here too. People
: > wanting to give their house a Gaelic name.

: Ruling-class plonkers and white settlers apart, is there really much


: tradition in Scotland of people giving their houses names? The only
: ones I can think of are isolated farmhouses and bothies in the Highlands
: which could be thought of as being one-building hamlets; how many people
: in towns and villages ever bothered?

Yes there most definitely is a tradition of it where I come from in
Perthshire. There are far more named houses than numbered ones. The
numbers are a relatively new thing. I recall the same thing all over
the Highlands in towns and villages. Where have you visited in the
Highlands that uses numbering alone? Many houses in towns and villages
have both a street number and a house name.

Sheena
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University of Sheffield.

Mian S

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May 31, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/31/97
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Sheena MacKenzie <she...@acse.shef.ac.uk> writes:

>
>Yes there most definitely is a tradition of it where I come from in
>Perthshire. There are far more named houses than numbered ones. The

What are some examples of house names?
Does anyone know how far back in time
this practice occurs (and sources for
further reading, if possible) ?

Thanks,

Mian

Craig Cockburn

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Jun 1, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/1/97
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Ann an sgriobhainn <BLO8ZW...@delphi.com>, sgriobh Mian S
<oi...@delphi.com>
On the Doune Road in Dunblane there's a Morven, Lismore, Rokeby,
Schiehallion, Capelrig. Can't think of any others at the moment.

Gerald Tighe

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Jun 1, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/1/97
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Jack Campin wrote:
>
> Craig Cockburn <cr...@scot.demon.co.uk> writes:
> > I get asked this a lot, and it seems to get asked a lot here too.
> > People wanting to give their house a Gaelic name.
>
> There are a few people here I'd rather like to see setting up home
> behind a pokerwork board saying "Dunpostin"...
>
> Ruling-class plonkers and white settlers apart, is there really much
> tradition in Scotland of people giving their houses names? The only
> ones I can think of are isolated farmhouses and bothies in the
> Highlands which could be thought of as being one-building hamlets; how > many people in towns and villages ever bothered?

Hi:

In a time when more, and more we don't exist unless we have at least one
number to prove it, perhaps it is time to start a new tradition, or an
old tradition in a new way.

What would be the effect if every high flat dweller had their home known
bye a name, and not as: "7-101, 1002 Soulless St, Muckle City.

Would the same pride and care, that the "pokerwork[ers]" feel, and take
in where live, result in proudly maintained, graphity-less buildings,
a subsequent better quality of life, and sense of well-being.

Of course there might some disputes over particular names. But don't
worry "Aye-Reacting" won't be one of them, amongst any class of
"plonker".


Regarets


Gerald

Sheena MacKenzie

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Jun 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/2/97
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In soc.culture.scottish Mian S <oi...@delphi.com> wrote:

: Sheena MacKenzie <she...@acse.shef.ac.uk> writes:
:
: >
: >Yes there most definitely is a tradition of it where I come from in
: >Perthshire. There are far more named houses than numbered ones. The
:
: What are some examples of house names?
: Does anyone know how far back in time
: this practice occurs (and sources for
: further reading, if possible) ?

The house my parents now live in is called Meadowside, our old house was
The Laurels (which had a datestone stating that it had originally been
named Laurel Villa when it was built back in the late 1800s. When
Blairgowrie and Rattray joined to become one township there was (and
still is) another house called Laurel Villa in Rattray, hence the change).

Other names I can remember off the top of my head, from near my home,
include St Anne's, The Elms, St Ninians, Eildon Villa, Ivybank,
Candletrees, Fan Ling, Kilchurn.

Even in Edinburgh, many blocks of tenements have a name as well as a
street number. I can think of several along Ferry Road in Leith, though
can't remember names off the top of my head.

Mian S

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Jun 3, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/3/97
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Craig Cockburn <cr...@scot.demon.co.uk> writes:

>>
>On the Doune Road in Dunblane there's a Morven, Lismore, Rokeby,
>Schiehallion, Capelrig. Can't think of any others at the moment.
>

Curious how the name is used in a context.

"Come visit Lismore" ?

"Stop on up at the Morven and give us a visit ?"

" Drop by Morven House" ?

Thanks,

Mian S.

Fiona Bremner

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Jun 3, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/3/97
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> > Craig Cockburn <cr...@scot.demon.co.uk> writes:
> > > I get asked this a lot, and it seems to get asked a lot here too.
> > > People wanting to give their house a Gaelic name.

> > how > many people in towns and villages ever bothered?
>

Coming from a village in the Highlands, I know that about half of all the
houses in our area have names. Admittedly, the farms and remote houses
almost always have names and the newer 'council' houses don't have names.
However, most of the newer private houses still have names. What I had a
difficult time trying to explain to visiters to the area was the tendency
to use the name of someone's house or farm as the person's last name, such
as Margaret Seater (who would really be Margaret Dunnet from Seater).

And even in Caithness, where gaelic is not a traditional language, there is
a trend for gaelic house names.
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Sheila McGregor

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Jun 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/4/97
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In article <01bc7064$3d5ee140$8b22...@cp3158.crl.aecl.ca>
brem...@aecl.ca "Fiona Bremner" writes:

> And even in Caithness, where gaelic is not a traditional language,

> there is a trend for gaelic house names.......

Geoffrey Barrow (in Gaelic and Scotland, 1989) thinks Scots was
limited for a long while to the sea-coast of Caithness. Before
any English speakers arrived it was evidently as Gaelic as the
rest of Scotland. His article is about the lost Gaighealtachd
of medieval Scotland, in other words, the pre-Scots Gaelic of
eastern Scotland and Lowland Scotland, including Caithness. It
is clear in the place-names if in nothing else that survived
but I was sure Gaelic was spoken in Caithness last century.
Could be wrong.

--
Sheila McGregor


Sheila Viemeister

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Jun 5, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/5/97
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Fiona Bremner wrote:
> What I had a
> difficult time trying to explain to visiters to the area was the tendency
> to use the name of someone's house or farm as the person's last name, such
> as Margaret Seater (who would really be Margaret Dunnet from Seater).

It was years before I realised that the cousins I knew as the
"Cornhills" were actually Mackays, as was my GreatGrandfather, whom
everyone called Hugh "Miller". Both occupation and location by-names
seem to be less common these days, perhaps due to the number of
incomers, bringing with them new family names.

Sheila Mackay Viemeister

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