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tom

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Jul 14, 2002, 4:56:43 PM7/14/02
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Have not looked seriously for a few months but it looks like the level
of intellectual
argument has seriously declined. I only see discussions on terrorism and
merkins
nowadays. Whatever happened to 'of that ilk', is he out of jail yet? Was
he ever in jail? He livened
things up a bit.

Tom


Ian Smith

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Jul 14, 2002, 7:01:10 PM7/14/02
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"tom" <aberdon...@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Tom; I have only recently joined this newsgroup, but can see
your point. I'm also guilty of lowering the tone with some of my
posts, but hopefully the remainder will make up for the
intellectual deficit of the bad ones.
Maybe one particular bampot will reconsider his method of
communication and start making sense for a change. I think we
all know who I'm referring to :-)

================================================================
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= 38°47.865'North, 104°44.709'West, altitude 1830m (6008ft). =
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"The truth is that we are all merely a collection of molecules,
so crafted by a process of continuous evolution, that our
complexity might suggest some higher intelligence at work;
but the truth still stands."

"Objective, scientific reasoning is the torch by which we
illuminate the dark corners of superstition, religion and myth."


al Quaeda - Scotland

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Jul 14, 2002, 7:37:06 PM7/14/02
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> Maybe one particular bampot will reconsider his method of
> communication and start making sense for a change. I think we
> all know who I'm referring to :-)

Whom, pray tell, do you refer to ?

--
d@ve
al Quaeda - Scotland


A Ingram

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Jul 14, 2002, 9:04:51 PM7/14/02
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You! Punk ass bitch. What is your problem? Maybe you should up your meds a
little? Why would you sign your posts after a bunch of uneducated rag tag
idiots? Do you think that make you tough? Someone ought to bitch slap you.
You're pathetic! Oh Yeh, I am 100% Scottish, not Scotch.
P.S. There really is no God. Think about it, the concept is ludicrous!


david allison - Dundee

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Jul 14, 2002, 10:35:06 PM7/14/02
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Dear Miss Ingram,
So nice you popped by. Any questions about Scotland while your here ?

--
d@ve @llison
Dundee - Scotland

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Ian Smith

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Jul 14, 2002, 11:05:27 PM7/14/02
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"A Ingram" <alastai...@att.net> wrote in message
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..

Ahem, I take it you were responding to some utterance by the
Dave entity, which is currently in my killfile? I thank you for
not reposting whatever it said. The world feels a better place
already :-)
By the way, bitch slapping's too good for him! I recommend
forcing him to spend a day with one of the families who lost a
loved one on Sept.11th, with their full knowledge of his recent
postings.


A Ingram

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Jul 14, 2002, 11:10:49 PM7/14/02
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That's "you're" you ignoramus.
"david allison - Dundee" <da...@weddingdundee.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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david allison - Dundee

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Jul 14, 2002, 11:19:06 PM7/14/02
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> By the way, bitch slapping's too good for him! I recommend
> forcing him to spend a day with one of the families who lost a
> loved one on Sept.11th, with their full knowledge of his recent
> postings.

I will if you will visit any of the 5000+++ murdered by your Yankee B52
or any of the millions of Iraqis or US/UK servicemen killed by depleted
uranium

--
d@ve @llison
Dundee - Scotland

"Ian "COWARD" Smith" <no.spam...@this.address>


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A Ingram

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Jul 14, 2002, 11:25:07 PM7/14/02
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ab...@theplanet.net - Tell them how you feel.
It's just too bad that idiots like this spoil it for others. He is such a
pathetic loser.


A Ingram

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Jul 14, 2002, 11:57:00 PM7/14/02
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Hey loser, why don't you read some history on the British empire. Oops, I
forgot, you don't read so well, do you. It just came to me, were you beat up
by an American at some point in your life? Yeh, that's it! I'll bet you got
your ass beat on a regular basis. Pathetic loser.

"david allison - Dundee" <da...@weddingdundee.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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Duke of URL

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Jul 15, 2002, 5:45:10 AM7/15/02
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> "tom" <aberdon...@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3D31E58A...@NOSPAM.yahoo.com...

> > Have not looked seriously for a few months but it looks like
> the level of intellectual
> > argument has seriously declined. I only see discussions on
> terrorism and merkins
> > nowadays. Whatever happened to 'of that ilk', is he out of
> jail yet? Was he ever in jail? He livened things up a bit.

Now, waitaminnit! You think that having *kins back in here would _improve_
the quality of the group? BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...


Lesley Robertson

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Jul 15, 2002, 5:53:32 AM7/15/02
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"Duke of URL" <MacB...@KDSI.net> wrote in message
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Funnily enough, SAotI DID have a positive effect - so many of the group were
inspired to do a bit of historical research and post their findings here ro
refute his idiotic (or delusional) claims..... At least he provided a bit of
an intellectual challenge.
Lesley Robertson

Ian Smith

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================================================================
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= 38°47.865'North, 104°44.709'West, altitude 1830m (6008ft). =
= emails to ianinhoose at earthlink dot net =
================================================================
"The truth is that we are all merely a collection of molecules,
so crafted by a process of continuous evolution, that our
complexity might suggest some higher intelligence at work;
but the truth still stands."

"Objective, scientific reasoning is the torch by which we
illuminate the dark corners of superstition, religion and myth."

> > d@ve @llison

Scottish Nation

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Jul 15, 2002, 8:02:48 PM7/15/02
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> "The truth is that we are all merely a collection of molecules,
> so crafted by a process of continuous evolution, that our
> complexity might suggest some higher intelligence at work;
> but the truth still stands."

Has this any scientific justification ? References ?


Ian O. Morrison

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Jul 16, 2002, 4:49:04 AM7/16/02
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"A Ingram" <alastai...@att.net> wrote in message news:<ngrY8.29061$Iu6.1...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...

> ab...@theplanet.net - Tell them how you feel.
> It's just too bad that idiots like this spoil it for others. He is such a
> pathetic loser.

Hmmm. You haven't actually shown that you are anything other than a
"pathetic loser" yourself, Mr Ingram. It is also a risky business (a)
top-posting and (b) quibbling about spelling or grammar in this
newsgroup.

Incidentally, I don't believe that Al-Qaeda (the real ones) are
exactly lacking in brains. After all, they have managed to pull off
some quite cleverly planned atrocities, grabbing the World's attention
in ways of which the likes of the IRA, or the Israeli government,
could only dream......

As for s.c.s., any responsibility for it "going down the tubes" is
down to all of us, not just one person. In any case, just when was its
golden age, when all was peace, love and understanding? I've been
around here pretty much since it started, and I can't remember such a
time!

------
Ian O.

A Ingram

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Jul 16, 2002, 3:57:15 PM7/16/02
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Risky business? Top posting? Please! Thanks for letting me know you are an
idiot just like the "real" Al-Qaeda members and the wanna be Al-Qaeda.
"Ian O. Morrison" <iomor...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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tom

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Jul 16, 2002, 4:26:57 PM7/16/02
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Lesley Robertson wrote:

I agree with this statement. It is good to have a maverick from time to time.
Yes we have Dave
but his arguments are a little tiresome by now. Its going to get a lot worse of
course when
the USA invades Iraq at the end of the year.


Tom
ps Collins dictionary definition: Maverick - US and Canada - unbranded stray
calf!


ian-s...@blueyonder.co.uk

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Jul 16, 2002, 5:32:39 PM7/16/02
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On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:57:15 GMT, I read these words from "A Ingram"
<alastai...@att.net> :

>Risky business? Top posting? Please! Thanks for letting me know you are an
>idiot just like the "real" Al-Qaeda members and the wanna be Al-Qaeda.
>"Ian O. Morrison" <iomor...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message

Jeez, another one in two days !
PLONK !!!!

-- The Despicable Stewart
-- Perfidious Alban
-- http://www.scs.informer.ukgateway.net

Lesley Robertson

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Jul 16, 2002, 5:45:24 PM7/16/02
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<ian-s...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:57:15 GMT, I read these words from "A Ingram"
> <alastai...@att.net> :
> >Risky business? Top posting? Please! Thanks for letting me know you are
an
> >idiot just like the "real" Al-Qaeda members and the wanna be Al-Qaeda.
> >"Ian O. Morrison" <iomor...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>
> Jeez, another one in two days !
> PLONK !!!!
>
I know. The pc in my office is only 2 weeks old, and already the kill file
is growing.... It's a bit like a parallel universe - there's all those folk
using scs that we never see!
Lesley Robertson

iomor...@yahoo.co.uk

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Jul 16, 2002, 6:23:25 PM7/16/02
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On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:57:15 GMT, "A Ingram" <alastai...@att.net>
wrote:

>Risky business? Top posting?

Afraid so. You are liable to get lambasted for such practices in these
quarters.

>Please! Thanks for letting me know you are an
>idiot just like the "real" Al-Qaeda members and the wanna be Al-Qaeda.

I would be careful who you call an idiot. Such tactics could rebound.

Just a few words of friendly advice from someone who actually has a
mind of his own.

----------
Ian O.

Madra Dubh

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Jul 16, 2002, 8:39:26 PM7/16/02
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<ian-s...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:57:15 GMT, I read these words from "A Ingram"
> <alastai...@att.net> :
> >Risky business? Top posting? Please! Thanks for letting me know you are
an
> >idiot just like the "real" Al-Qaeda members and the wanna be Al-Qaeda.
> >"Ian O. Morrison" <iomor...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>
> Jeez, another one in two days !
> PLONK !!!!
>
In the True Gaelic, that would be "Ploink".
-COnway

MacRobert

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Jul 17, 2002, 1:30:32 AM7/17/02
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On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 00:39:26 GMT, "Madra Dubh"
<Madr...@worldnet.att.net> paused to reflect but wrote anyway:

and in Cherokee, PLVK?

Adam Whyte-Settlar

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"A Ingram" <alastai...@att.net> wrote in message
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> Risky business? Top posting? Please!

Just **** off and die you top-posting scumbag. Your type really make us all
puke.
We will hunt you and all other top-posters down in the 'real' world - You
deserve and will receive no mercy - We will kill you and all your extended
family in the most disgusting manner imaginable. No more than you
top-posting swine deserve. And it is no use you crawling - it is already too
late. Our agents are already closing in on you - you pathetic top-posting
loser. The world will be a better place when it is rid of obnoxious
top-posting scum like you.
--
The adorable Adam Whyte-Settlar
- destined to be forever in the minority

Adam Whyte-Settlar

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Jul 17, 2002, 6:11:46 AM7/17/02
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"Madra Dubh" <Madr...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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Oh good grief. Is life in the Isle of Man really so tedious?


Bryn Fraser

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Jul 17, 2002, 7:51:03 AM7/17/02
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In article <ah2442$dk$1...@news.tudelft.nl>, Lesley Robertson
<l.a.ro...@tnw.tudelft.nl> writes

Trouble is I see loads of incoming posts and when I look, nothing
there... Except lots of posts at the bottom of the stack marked with big
black crosses.
>
>
>

--
Bryn Fraser

To the Phenomenologist, legend is an artifact.

http://www.finhall.demon.co.uk
http://www.thefrasers.com

Gem

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"al Quaeda - Scotland" <da...@weddingdundee.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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You, you terrorist supporting lying hypocrite.

Gem

Gem

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Jul 17, 2002, 8:09:34 AM7/17/02
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"david allison - Dundee" <da...@weddingdundee.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> > By the way, bitch slapping's too good for him! I recommend
> > forcing him to spend a day with one of the families who lost a
> > loved one on Sept.11th, with their full knowledge of his recent
> > postings.
>
> I will if you will visit any of the 5000+++ murdered by your Yankee B52
> or any of the millions of Iraqis or US/UK servicemen killed by depleted
> uranium
>
> --
> d@ve @llison
> Dundee - Scotland
> "Ian "COWARD" Smith" <no.spam...@this.address>
>
How I wish you were on that list you terrorist supporting lying hypocrite.
Mrs Allison why don't you phone and harrass me? Because you're
too scared that's why.

Gem

Gem

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Jul 17, 2002, 8:08:35 AM7/17/02
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"david allison - Dundee" <da...@weddingdundee.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Dear Miss Ingram,
> So nice you popped by. Any questions about Scotland while your here ?
>
> --
> d@ve @llison
> Dundee - Scotland

Why would anyone ask you about Scotland. You haven't a clue, all you
know about is terrorism and lying.

Gem

iomor...@yahoo.co.uk

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On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 01:32:50 GMT, The Phantom Piper <Gh...@Spirit.org>
wrote:


>That is because you are a feckless clattering
>Britclone, ye donsie auld cuif!
>
>
>Lovingly,
>
>---The Phantom Piper

:-)


---------
Ian O.

Craig Cockburn

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Jul 17, 2002, 4:34:38 PM7/17/02
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In message <TcpY8.102511$UT.65...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
A Ingram <alastai...@att.net> writes

<deleted>

another one for the killfile.
--
Craig Cockburn ("coburn"). SiliconGlen.com Ltd. http://SiliconGlen.com
Home to the first online guide to Scotland, founded 1994.
Scottish FAQ, wedding info, travel, search tools, stop spam and more!

Madra Dubh

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Jul 18, 2002, 4:40:32 PM7/18/02
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"MacRobert" <MacR...@th.keyboard> wrote in message
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Use the syllabery please.
-Conway

Madra Dubh

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Jul 18, 2002, 4:41:23 PM7/18/02
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"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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After a stint in NZ, it would be like a trip to Disney World, all expenses
pair.
-Conway

MacRobert

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Jul 18, 2002, 10:59:12 PM7/18/02
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On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:40:32 GMT, "Madra Dubh"

<Madr...@worldnet.att.net> paused to reflect but wrote anyway:

>
>"MacRobert" <MacR...@th.keyboard> wrote in message
>news:3d3500ca...@basic.bs.webusenet.com...
>> On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 00:39:26 GMT, "Madra Dubh"
>> <Madr...@worldnet.att.net> paused to reflect but wrote anyway:
>>
>> >
>> ><ian-s...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
>> >news:4549jukrmh0sked3i...@4ax.com...
>> >> On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:57:15 GMT, I read these words from "A Ingram"
>> >> <alastai...@att.net> :
>> >> >Risky business? Top posting? Please! Thanks for letting me know you
>are
>> >an
>> >> >idiot just like the "real" Al-Qaeda members and the wanna be Al-Qaeda.
>> >> >"Ian O. Morrison" <iomor...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>> >>
>> >> Jeez, another one in two days !
>> >> PLONK !!!!
>> >>
>> >In the True Gaelic, that would be "Ploink".
>> >-COnway
>> >
>>
>> and in Cherokee, PLVK?
>
>Use the syllabery please.
>-Conway
>

Sorry, that was the best I could do , sort of " Pl-unh-K.

Stephen

nigel. carron

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Jul 19, 2002, 7:22:20 PM7/19/02
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In message <TcpY8.102511$UT.65...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
A Ingram <alastai...@att.net> writes
>You! Punk ass bitch.

>Someone ought to bitch slap you.
>You're pathetic! Oh Yeh, I am 100% Scottish,

Why then the language from the bronx if you are Scottish - yes D@ve is a
pathetic idiot - but at least he doesn't mouth off New York style..


--
njc AKA

Madra Dubh

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Jul 19, 2002, 8:33:46 PM7/19/02
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"MacRobert" <MacR...@th.keyboard> wrote in message
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Very close, Mac.
The Cherokee word for "No" is pronounced "Pleh".
(I think)
-Conway

al Quaeda ~ Scotland

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Jul 19, 2002, 10:02:18 PM7/19/02
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Nigle me old Chum, VERY long time no hear...............

--
al Quaeda ~ Scotland

"nigel. carron" <nigel....@anywhereyawant.com> wrote in message
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ian-s...@blueyonder.co.uk

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Jul 20, 2002, 4:30:45 AM7/20/02
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On Sat, 20 Jul 2002 00:22:20 +0100, I read these words from "nigel.
carron" <nigel....@anywhereyawant.com> :

Mr C !

Welcome back, long time no hear.
How are things with you and yours?
Improved since your last appearance, I trust.

Lesley Robertson

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"nigel. carron" <nigel....@anywhereyawant.com> wrote in message
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Nigel! How nice to see you. How's things on the home front?
Lesley Robertson

Bryn Fraser

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In article <YgCFxsCs...@btinternet.com>, nigel. carron <nigel.carro
n...@anywhereyawant.com> writes

Hi Nigel...!

al Quaeda ~ Scotland

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Jul 20, 2002, 8:06:59 AM7/20/02
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-=========================
DEPRESSED MAN DIAGNOSED AS "SCOTTISH"

Alistair McGregor, an expatriate Scottish man living in America, was
recently diagnosed as clinically depressed, tanked up on anti-depressants
and scheduled for controversial Shock Therapy when doctors realized he
wasn't depressed at all.............only Scottish.

Mr. McGregor, a Scottish man whose characteristic pessimism and gloomy
perspective were interpreted as serious clinical depression, was led on a
nightmare journey through the American psychiatric system.

Doctors described McGregor as suffering from Pervasive Negative Anticipation
- a belief that everything will turn out for the worst, whether it's trains
arriving late, Scotland's chances at winning any international sports event
or even his own prospects to get ahead in life and achieve his dreams.

"The satisfaction Mr. McGregor seemed to get from his pessimism seemed
particularly pathological," reported the doctors.

"They put me on everything - Lithium, Prozac, St John's Wort, Ginseng",said
Mr. McGregor." They even told me to sit in front of a big light for an hour
a day or I'd become suicidal. I kept telling them this was all pointless and
they said that it was exactly that sort of attitude that got me here in the
first place."

Running out of ideas, his doctors finally resorted to a course of "weapons
grade MDMA", the only noticeable effect of which was six hours of speedy
repetitions of the phrases "mustn't grumble" and "not too bad, really". It
was then that Mr. McGregor was referred to a psychotherapist.

"Suicidal?" Dr Isaac Horney explored Mr. McGregor's family history and
couldn't believe his ears. "His story of a childhood growing up in the drab
back streets of a windswept grey town with treeless streets of identical
run-down houses where it rained every day, passionately backing a football
team who never won, seemed to be an idealized depressive memory--I thought
all that was a myth..."

Mr. McGregor had six months of therapy but seemed to mainly want to talk
about the weather - how miserable and cold it was in winter and later how
difficult and wet it was in summer. I felt he wasn't responding to therapy
at all and so I recommended drastic action - namely ECT or shock treatment".

"I was all strapped down on the table and they were about to put the rubber
bit in my mouth when the psychiatric nurse picked up on my accent," said Mr.
McGregor. "I remember her saying 'Oh dear, I think we're making terrible
mistake'." Nurse Alice Sheen was a big fan of Scottish comedy giving her an
understanding of the Scottish psyche. "Classic comedy characters like Chic
Murray, Will Fife and The Crankies, all hopeless cases with no chance of
ever doing well or escaping their circumstances," she explained to the
baffled US medics. "In Scotland, being depressed to the point of suicidal is
considered the norm and is not seen as pathological at all." Identifying Mr.
McGregor as Scottish changed his diagnosis from 'clinical depression' to
'rather quaint and charming' and he was immediately discharged from
hospital, with a selection of brightly colored leaflets and an "I love New
York" T-shirt.

end quoted text-=========================


--
al Quaeda ~ Scotland

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njc

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Jul 20, 2002, 8:43:19 AM7/20/02
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In message <2rh9ju426u5p4fev4...@4ax.com>, The Phantom
Piper <Gh...@Spirit.org> writes

>That is because you are a feckless clattering Britclone, ye donsie auld
>cuif!

By gum old chap - you do rather repeat that old horse droppings rather
excessively. Would you please buy a book that explains Scotland &
England and Great Britain - claiming that someone who is British is a
British clone is rather dim - but what can we expect from an anonymous
poster who claims Scottishness, yet is obviously from a warmer climate
(or is it the whiskey that's rotted your brain?)

Have a spiffin time - love the bigger yin..


--
njc AKA

njc

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Jul 20, 2002, 8:49:41 AM7/20/02
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Nae - he was just a rangers supporter who swapped from Dundee Utd - too
much for any man..


--
njc AKA m...@baybus.co.uk

nigel. carron

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Jul 20, 2002, 8:52:41 AM7/20/02
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In message <H7dZ8.1615$Dh3....@newsfep1-win.server.ntli.net>, Gem
<Gemsto...@btinternet.com> writes
>boring,boring,boring,boring,
boring,boring,
boring,boring,
boring,boring,
boring,boring,
boring,boring,
boring,boring,


Whilst the words may be accurate - your delivery style is VERY
irritating and extremely tedious..
--
njc AKA m...@baybus.co.uk

nigel. carron

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Jul 20, 2002, 8:54:46 AM7/20/02
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In message <TJFZ8.109721$UT.70...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
Madra Dubh <Madr...@worldnet.att.net> writes

>> Oh good grief. Is life in the Isle of Man really so tedious?
>>
>After a stint in NZ, it would be like a trip to Disney World, all
>expenses
>pair.

Only been to IOM once, me ex-brother in law was a motorcycle side car
rider so went to TT with him and me sister - the IOM is NOT boring at
that time!!

--
njc AKA m...@baybus.co.uk

nigel. carron

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In message <ahbbbr$a86$1...@news.tudelft.nl>, Lesley Robertson
<l.a.ro...@tnw.tudelft.nl> writes

>Nigel! How nice to see you. How's things on the home front? Lesley
>Robertson


Hi - very good thanks Benjamyn is doing superbly and his Mum
recovering..

Nice to see some of the saner regulars still around..

How is the Netherlands? I ask because it appears England is getting much
higher summer temps than it used to - is this "global warming" and if it
is Europe getting it as well? We have put off a planned trip to see my
Parents in July till October when it hopefully is much cooler.. If
heaven forbid such warmth ever makes it this far north - we may have to
move to Iceland :(

Here in the North East we had a 3 day heat wave, temps got well into the
lower 20 degrees C (Horrible heat) - thankfully broken by 2 days of
constant rain (much cooler and nicer)..


Back to Thread>
Whilst I have some sympathy for the anti-D@ve viewpoint after past
issues - lately there seems to be a few that are as bad as D@ve..

As someone who has in the past had disagreements with D@ve can I say to
his attackers you are whistling in a hurricane - D@ve is too far gone to
comprehend anything from the real world.

--
njc AKA m...@baybus.co.uk

MacRobert

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On Sat, 20 Jul 2002 00:22:20 +0100, "nigel. carron"
<nigel....@anywhereyawant.com> paused to reflect but wrote anyway:

Well heya, shorty, howzit hangin? Thought you'd taken a vow of
silence. . .

Stephen

Lesley Robertson

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"nigel. carron" <n...@whsmithnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Hi - very good thanks Benjamyn is doing superbly and his Mum
> recovering..

Givce her our best...


>
> Nice to see some of the saner regulars still around..

And a few returners...


>
> How is the Netherlands? I ask because it appears England is getting much
> higher summer temps than it used to - is this "global warming" and if it
> is Europe getting it as well? We have put off a planned trip to see my
> Parents in July till October when it hopefully is much cooler.. If
> heaven forbid such warmth ever makes it this far north - we may have to
> move to Iceland :(

It's been hot for the last couple of days, until 10 mins ago..... I just got
the laundry in in time!
>
> Back to Thread>

Naughty! The Constitution doesn't allow reversal of thread drift.
Lesley Robertson

S Viemeister

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Jul 20, 2002, 11:54:34 AM7/20/02
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Lesley Robertson wrote:
>
> "nigel. carron" <n...@whsmithnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> >
> > Back to Thread>
>
> Naughty! The Constitution doesn't allow reversal of thread drift.
> Lesley Robertson
>
But since the thread HAS drifted, 'reversal' would actually be a further
drift, would it not? Is this not covered in subsection 32b?

Adam Whyte-Settlar

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Jul 20, 2002, 2:59:03 PM7/20/02
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"nigel. carron" <n...@whsmithnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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Bad choice of analogy too - I can think of very few places I would rather
avoid than 'Disneyland' - Ullapool maybe.
--
The adorable Adam Whyte-Settlar
- destined to be forever in the minority


Lesley Robertson

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"S Viemeister" <she...@viemeister.com> wrote in message
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You might be right.....
How's the ice cream coming on?
Lesley Robertson

S Viemeister

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Jul 20, 2002, 5:21:18 PM7/20/02
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Lesley Robertson wrote:
>
> "S Viemeister" <she...@viemeister.com> wrote in message
> > >
> > But since the thread HAS drifted, 'reversal' would actually be a further
> > drift, would it not? Is this not covered in subsection 32b?
>
> You might be right.....
> How's the ice cream coming on?
> Lesley Robertson
>
I'm going to wait to talk to people about it, until after the lamb sales
- that should give me time to do a little research.

Robert, (Auld Bob), Peffers

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"A Ingram" <alastai...@att.net> wrote in message
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> Risky business? Top posting? Please! Thanks for letting me know you are an
> idiot just like the "real" Al-Qaeda members and the wanna be Al-Qaeda.
> "Ian O. Morrison" <iomor...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:992a4c7b.02071...@posting.google.com...
> > "A Ingram" <alastai...@att.net> wrote in message
> news:<ngrY8.29061$Iu6.1...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
> > > ab...@theplanet.net - Tell them how you feel.
> > > It's just too bad that idiots like this spoil it for others. He is
such
> a
> > > pathetic loser.
> >
> > Hmmm. You haven't actually shown that you are anything other than a
> > "pathetic loser" yourself, Mr Ingram. It is also a risky business (a)
> > top-posting and (b) quibbling about spelling or grammar in this
> > newsgroup.
> >
> > Incidentally, I don't believe that Al-Qaeda (the real ones) are
> > exactly lacking in brains. After all, they have managed to pull off
> > some quite cleverly planned atrocities, grabbing the World's attention
> > in ways of which the likes of the IRA, or the Israeli government,
> > could only dream......
> >
> > As for s.c.s., any responsibility for it "going down the tubes" is
> > down to all of us, not just one person. In any case, just when was its
> > golden age, when all was peace, love and understanding? I've been
> > around here pretty much since it started, and I can't remember such a
> > time!
> >
> > ------
> > Ian O.
>
>
Frae Auld Bob Peffers:
Sigh! Not another one. Must stick it in the killfile.
--
Aefauldlie, (Scots for Sincerely),
Auld Bob Peffers,
b...@peffers50.freeserve.co.uk
Web Site, *The Eck's Files*
http://www.peffers50.freeserve.co.uk/


tom

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Jul 21, 2002, 1:58:06 AM7/21/02
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Madra Dubh wrote:

NZ is one of the best places on the planet.

Tom

Polar

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Jul 21, 2002, 2:04:18 AM7/21/02
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Roger that! Spent a happy month Down Under some years ago; clean
air, clean water, friendly people, gorgeous scenery. Would love
to go back. I understand quite a few Yanks retire down there.


--
Polar

Ian Smith

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"Polar" <sme...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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At the very least, New Zealand has to be the safest place on
the planet should the "big red button" be pushed and we have
nuclear annihilation.
By the way, the only 2 NZ films which come to mind are
"Quiet Earth" (1985 science fiction) and "Bad Taste" (1987
science fiction vomit!), both of which I enjoyed enormously :-)
I will watch "Lord of the Rings" eventually, I promise :-)

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complexity might suggest some higher intelligence at work;
but the truth still stands."

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illuminate the dark corners of superstition, religion and myth."


Madra Dubh

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"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "nigel. carron" <n...@whsmithnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:nd8ae7FW...@btinternet.com...
> > In message <TJFZ8.109721$UT.70...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> > Madra Dubh <Madr...@worldnet.att.net> writes
> > >> Oh good grief. Is life in the Isle of Man really so tedious?
> > >>
> > >After a stint in NZ, it would be like a trip to Disney World, all
> > >expenses
> > >pair.
> >
> > Only been to IOM once, me ex-brother in law was a motorcycle side car
> > rider so went to TT with him and me sister - the IOM is NOT boring at
> > that time!!
>
> Bad choice of analogy too - I can think of very few places I would rather
> avoid than 'Disneyland' - Ullapool maybe.
> --
So, it's off to Sydney then?
-Conway

Madra Dubh

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Jul 21, 2002, 9:24:26 AM7/21/02
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"tom" <aberdon...@NAESPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Adam out of the country again?
-Conway

Polar

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Jul 21, 2002, 7:42:51 PM7/21/02
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On Sun, 21 Jul 2002 08:02:20 GMT, "Ian Smith"
<ianinhoose_at_e...@commonsense.com> wrote:

[...]

> At the very least, New Zealand has to be the safest place on
>the planet should the "big red button" be pushed and we have
>nuclear annihilation.
> By the way, the only 2 NZ films which come to mind are
>"Quiet Earth" (1985 science fiction) and "Bad Taste" (1987
>science fiction vomit!), both of which I enjoyed enormously :-)

WHAT??? Do you not know about "Once Were Warriors"?

That was a *sensation* in EnZed; first time the issue of spousal
abuse and drinking among Maori and Pacific Islanders had been
openly addressed.

It did very well Up Here, especially to the art house audience.
Have seen it 3x.

Other EnZed films that made it to the States and did well:

"Heavenly Creatures"

"The Piano"

Must be more...


> I will watch "Lord of the Rings" eventually, I promise :-)

I won't.

--
Polar

T N Nurse

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Jul 22, 2002, 6:32:36 AM7/22/02
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In article <3D3A4D6E...@NAESPAM.yahoo.com>, tom
<aberdon...@NAESPAM.yahoo.com> wrote:

> Madra Dubh wrote:
>

> > > Oh good grief. Is life in the Isle of Man really so tedious?
> > >
> > After a stint in NZ, it would be like a trip to Disney World, all expenses
> > pair.
> > -Conway
>
> NZ is one of the best places on the planet.

Is that why everyone is so desperate to leave as soon as they can?[1]


[1] New Zealanders are the 'most-travelled' people on the planet, with
the highest passport ownership rate.

Adam Whyte-Settlar

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Jul 23, 2002, 8:39:11 AM7/23/02
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"Madra Dubh" <Madr...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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I've read the above 'contribution' to Scottish culture several times now and
I still don't know how to take it.
Are you insinuating that Sydney is comparable to Ullapool or to Disneyland?
Strangely enough Sydney is indeed on A W-S fantasy itinery - but then so are
both Korea and China.
After lengthy consideration I've come to the conclusion that the best course
of action is not to respond to your enigmatic post at all.

Thomson McFarlane

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Jul 23, 2002, 11:34:59 AM7/23/02
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In article <9ehmju0kc1he868ld...@4ax.com>,
sme...@mindspring.com says...

[snipped]

> WHAT??? Do you not know about "Once Were Warriors"?
>
> That was a *sensation* in EnZed; first time the issue of spousal
> abuse and drinking among Maori and Pacific Islanders had been
> openly addressed.
>
> It did very well Up Here, especially to the art house audience.
> Have seen it 3x.
>

Agreed, I went to the pictures to see it here in Finland,
not knowing what I was going to see. It was quite a shock,
a very powerful film. I would like to see it again.

BTW, I could be wrong, but I think I read somewhere of there
being a sequel being made, any idea?

Thomson

Ian O. Morrison

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Jul 23, 2002, 4:12:07 PM7/23/02
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"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<_7c%8.10517$7G4.1...@news.xtra.co.nz>...

> > > "nigel. carron" <n...@whsmithnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > news:nd8ae7FW...@btinternet.com...

> > > > IOM is NOT boring

This thread is incredibly confusing, so I have snipped Nigel's post
down to a few key words, which I think say it all.....

> After lengthy consideration I've come to the conclusion that the best course
> of action is not to respond to your enigmatic post at all.

The wisest move you've made all year, IMHO.

---
IOM

Madra Dubh

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"T N Nurse" <tnn...@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
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Some folks aren't cut out for the bucolic life.
-Conway

Madra Dubh

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"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Not at all familiar with Irish Irony are you?
Translation: You find Sydney exciting whereas you find Disney World dull.
It was a double header slam.
-Conway
(Best not venture into SCI, it would be as a foreign language to you)


Sally

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Jul 23, 2002, 9:23:37 PM7/23/02
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"nigel. carron" <nigel....@anywhereyawant.com> wrote in message news:<YgCFxsCs...@btinternet.com>...

> In message <TcpY8.102511$UT.65...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> A Ingram <alastai...@att.net> writes
> >You! Punk ass bitch.
> >Someone ought to bitch slap you.
> >You're pathetic! Oh Yeh, I am 100% Scottish,
>
> Why then the language from the bronx if you are Scottish - yes D@ve is a
> pathetic idiot - but at least he doesn't mouth off New York style..

Dear - do listen/look at what you are posting. Your language, oh dear
me! Such coarseness! Such Drivel!

Synapse

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Jul 23, 2002, 8:13:31 PM7/23/02
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"Sally" <esd...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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Such scottishness....!


Adam Whyte-Settlar

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Jul 24, 2002, 7:54:45 AM7/24/02
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"Madra Dubh" <Madr...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:YEk%8.814$Kl6....@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...

I am as a matter of fact - just not your particular brand of it.

> Translation: You find Sydney exciting whereas you find Disney World dull.

Not so sure 'dull' is the right word - 'nauseatingly kitsch' would be nearer
the mark.

> It was a double header slam.
> -Conway
> (Best not venture into SCI, it would be as a foreign language to you)
>

See above - I drop in occasionally, usually dragging you with me as it
happens. You being halfway between Scotland and Ireland as it were.

Adam Whyte-Settlar

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Jul 24, 2002, 8:00:48 AM7/24/02
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"Ian Smith" <ianinhoose_at_e...@commonsense.com> wrote in
message news:gUt_8.7465$Qk6....@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net...

> "Polar" <sme...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>
> > >
> > >NZ is one of the best places on the planet.
> >
> > Roger that! Spent a happy month Down Under some years ago;
> clean
> > air, clean water, friendly people, gorgeous scenery. Would
> love
> > to go back. I understand quite a few Yanks retire down there.

SSHHH! Keep it down. It's hard enough to keep this place a secret after
'Bored of the Rings' was released, let alone having you spout it out all
over usenet.

>
> At the very least, New Zealand has to be the safest place on
> the planet should the "big red button" be pushed and we have
> nuclear annihilation.

Yeah - that's right - we would take three months longer to die than everyone
else. Except of course for the worlds 'leaders' who would take over three
years to die in various holes in the ground.

Synapse

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Jul 24, 2002, 7:00:40 AM7/24/02
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"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Such clarity and insight.


Adam Whyte-Settlar

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Jul 24, 2002, 8:19:23 AM7/24/02
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"Polar" <sme...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:9ehmju0kc1he868ld...@4ax.com...

> On Sun, 21 Jul 2002 08:02:20 GMT, "Ian Smith"
> <ianinhoose_at_e...@commonsense.com> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > At the very least, New Zealand has to be the safest place on
> >the planet should the "big red button" be pushed and we have
> >nuclear annihilation.
> > By the way, the only 2 NZ films which come to mind are
> >"Quiet Earth" (1985 science fiction) and "Bad Taste" (1987
> >science fiction vomit!), both of which I enjoyed enormously :-)
>
> WHAT??? Do you not know about "Once Were Warriors"?
>
> That was a *sensation* in EnZed; first time the issue of spousal
> abuse and drinking among Maori and Pacific Islanders had been
> openly addressed.

'Openly' being the operative word.
Wife beating is still an accepted part of the culture among a sizable
proportion of the population here - including the 'white pigs'.
One subject that is still taboo is the prevalence of child abuse. No-one
seems to want to make a film about *that* just yet but the figures are
appalling. The incidence of mental health problems is also very high as are
drug addiction, gang warfare, the murder rate and robberies - especially
house-breaking. Tradesmen even steal each others tools on building sites!
Children are still routinely knocked senseless in the boarding schools by
'prefects' whilst teachers turn a blind eye - toughens 'em up for the rugby
which is the single most important thing in NZ by miles.
The racism is so breathtakingly casual that one almost misses it. ie.from a
sweet little old lady next door:
"Lovely day now isn't it? Sorry to hear you've had the 'flu dear - its the
Asian students y'know, jist riddled with diseases - I always drink lots and
lots of hot tea and lemon, have you tried it."

Despite all the problems its still probably the best 'all-round' country in
the world though - the only people that don't seem to appreciate it are the
Kiwis.

Adam Whyte-Settlar

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Jul 24, 2002, 8:21:05 AM7/24/02
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"Madra Dubh" <Madr...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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What a cheap and utterly pathetic shot. You're improving.


Adam Whyte-Settlar

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Jul 24, 2002, 8:29:40 AM7/24/02
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"T N Nurse" <tnn...@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
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The psyche born of isolation and greed. When they travel they tend to go
walkabout for a couple of years and save up some money to bring home. You
can't just hop on an eazyjet down to Athens from here. Even the Pacific
Islands are 1000s of miles out.
Thailand is long haul from here too - about 12 hours.
Most of them come back though. Once they realise that EU wages are sucked up
by EU prices. And that what they think is a 'rat-race' in Auckland is really
like Hemel Hempstead pre Beatlemania.

Gem

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Jul 24, 2002, 8:41:16 AM7/24/02
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"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > Translation: You find Sydney exciting whereas you find Disney World dull.
>
> Not so sure 'dull' is the right word - 'nauseatingly kitsch' would be nearer
> the mark.
>
Aren't you annoyed you wasted your money going? It can't be cheap?

Gem

Lesley Robertson

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Jul 24, 2002, 9:02:20 AM7/24/02
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"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Yeah - that's right - we would take three months longer to die than
everyone
> else. Except of course for the worlds 'leaders' who would take over three
> years to die in various holes in the ground.
> --
I've read "On the Beach" as well. It should be required reading for anyone
who thinks they can have a "contained nuclear strike". The illiterate can
watch the film.
Living, as I do, near one of NATO's computer centres, it's been a great
source of comfort thay should such a thing happen, I'll be long gone by the
time our beloved leaders emerge and starting looking for someone to control.
Lesley Robertson

Greyhawk

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Jul 24, 2002, 5:22:39 PM7/24/02
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Hmm... IOM *IS* boring! But incredibly knowledgable about Scotland,
so well worth the read.

Thought I would put a little spoon into the gruel and mix things up.

Gone a long time, and hopefully forgotten,
georgette

S Viemeister

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Jul 24, 2002, 5:31:16 PM7/24/02
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Greyhawk wrote:

> Gone a long time, and hopefully forgotten,
> georgette
>

A VERY long time, indeed.

Madra Dubh

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Jul 24, 2002, 5:43:38 PM7/24/02
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"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Thank you, Adam.
I thought you would enjoy that one.
-Conway

Sally

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Jul 24, 2002, 9:14:33 PM7/24/02
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"Lesley Robertson" <l.a.ro...@tnw.tudelft.nl> wrote in message news:<ahm8gt$93c$1...@news.tudelft.nl>...

All of you can live where I do - within ground zero of the "Capitol of
the Greatest Nation on Earth!!!"
After a while - you accept the inevitable! Some damnfool will push
the button just to see what happens next.

Adam Whyte-Settlar

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Jul 24, 2002, 9:33:49 PM7/24/02
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"Lesley Robertson" <l.a.ro...@tnw.tudelft.nl> wrote in message
news:ahm8gt$93c$1...@news.tudelft.nl...
>
Iv'e never read "On the Beach" or seen the film but I presume its about the
nuclear holocaust?
I just applied a little logic ( I only have a little but I applied it
anyway).
If the US and the USSR had ever launched an attack the very first place to
get zapped, vaporised, atomised or whatever you want to call it would have
been the Outer Hebrides.
This is where The US early warning system is located. Set deep below the
Machair and atop the low hills of South Uist.

Lesley Robertson

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Jul 25, 2002, 4:50:19 AM7/25/02
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"Greyhawk" <greyha...@attbi.com> wrote in message
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>
> Hmm... IOM *IS* boring!

Oh no he's not!

>But incredibly knowledgable about Scotland,
> so well worth the read.

Oh yes he is!
(You guessed it, our next pantomime has gone into rehearsal....)

> Gone a long time, and hopefully forgotten,
> georgette

Welcome home... There's been a flood of returnees recently - well, a few,
anyway!
Lesley Robertson

Lesley Robertson

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Jul 25, 2002, 4:51:23 AM7/25/02
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"Sally" <esd...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> All of you can live where I do - within ground zero of the "Capitol of
> the Greatest Nation on Earth!!!"

When did you move to Edinburgh?
Lesley Robertson

Adam Whyte-Settlar

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Jul 25, 2002, 5:49:52 AM7/25/02
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"Lesley Robertson" <l.a.ro...@tnw.tudelft.nl> wrote in message
news:ahoe6c$2dv$1...@news.tudelft.nl...
: )
Sad thing is that Merkins can prattle on about the US being 'the greatest
nation on earth' etc., etc., ad nauseum, and they really *believe* it !!
I wonder if they realise just how ridiculous that makes them look in the
eyes of the rest of the world.

MacRobert

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Jul 25, 2002, 10:31:01 AM7/25/02
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On Wed, 24 Jul 2002 21:22:39 GMT, Greyhawk <greyha...@attbi.com>
paused to reflect but wrote anyway:

A very long time; how have you been? Are you well?

Stephen Hamilton

MacRobert

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Jul 25, 2002, 10:32:46 AM7/25/02
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On Thu, 25 Jul 2002 21:49:52 +1200, "Adam Whyte-Settlar"
<grawi...@hotmail.com> paused to reflect but wrote anyway:

>
>"Lesley Robertson" <l.a.ro...@tnw.tudelft.nl> wrote in message
>news:ahoe6c$2dv$1...@news.tudelft.nl...
>>
>> "Sally" <esd...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>> news:b8bcd929.02072...@posting.google.com...
>> > All of you can live where I do - within ground zero of the "Capitol of
>> > the Greatest Nation on Earth!!!"
>>
>> When did you move to Edinburgh?
>> Lesley Robertson
>>
>: )
>Sad thing is that Merkins can prattle on about the US being 'the greatest
>nation on earth' etc., etc., ad nauseum, and they really *believe* it !!
>I wonder if they realise just how ridiculous that makes them look in the
>eyes of the rest of the world.
>--

You miss the point.

Jim Stewart

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Jul 25, 2002, 1:42:36 PM7/25/02
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Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:

Sitting here in Chicago, 2000 miles from any ocean and 800 miles from our
neighbor to the north, it is a little hard to discern the "rest of the world".
Because our market is plunging, everyone is in for trouble. I havn't seen the
Japanese, Hong Kong, Britian France or Germany be able to save their economy
when ours plunges.

Only little Mexico, in the 60's was able to pull that off. Not even close now,
though...
"Poor Mexica, so far from God, so close to the US....

Jim Stewart

Madra Dubh

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Jul 25, 2002, 5:02:31 PM7/25/02
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"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%PP%8.11100$7G4.2...@news.xtra.co.nz...

>
> "Lesley Robertson" <l.a.ro...@tnw.tudelft.nl> wrote in message
> news:ahoe6c$2dv$1...@news.tudelft.nl...
> >
> > "Sally" <esd...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> > news:b8bcd929.02072...@posting.google.com...
> > > All of you can live where I do - within ground zero of the "Capitol of
> > > the Greatest Nation on Earth!!!"
> >
> > When did you move to Edinburgh?
> > Lesley Robertson
> >
> : )
> Sad thing is that Merkins can prattle on about the US being 'the greatest
> nation on earth' etc., etc., ad nauseum, and they really *believe* it !!
> I wonder if they realise just how ridiculous that makes them look in the
> eyes of the rest of the world.
> --
How many of these prattlers have you encountered this month?
-Conway

Adam Whyte-Settlar

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Jul 25, 2002, 5:10:20 PM7/25/02
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"Jim Stewart" <ste...@eiger.ceet.niu.edu> wrote in message
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I think you are confusing 'The most important consumer market in the world'
with 'The greatest nation in the world'. Not the same thing - unless one is
a Merkan of course.
Also - apart from your apparent difficulty in grasping a world view due to
curcumstances of geography you also seem unable to grasp time scales. Given
time *all* empires wax and wane and the US empire will be no exception. The
British understand this only too well.
'Look upon my works ye mighty and weep' springs to mind. (something like
that anyway!)

Jim Stewart

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Jul 25, 2002, 9:55:16 PM7/25/02
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Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:

He teacheth my hands to war so a bow of steel is broken by mine arms.
Thou hast also given me the shield of thy salvation and thy gentleness hath made
me great.
Thou hast enlarged my steps under me so that my feet did not slip.
I have pursued my enemies and destroyed them. and turned not again until I had
consumed them.

II Samuel 22

Jim Stewart

Jim Stewart

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Jul 25, 2002, 9:56:27 PM7/25/02
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Madra Dubh wrote:

He is afraid to move around...
Might fall in the water.

Jim Stewart

Adam Whyte-Settlar

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Jul 26, 2002, 12:54:57 AM7/26/02
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"Madra Dubh" <Madr...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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Only one this month to be fair, but it must amount to hundreds over the
years.
How many Merkins in this ng would claim that 'the US is the greatest nation
on earth'?
Quite a few I would imagine.

ian-s...@blueyonder.co.uk

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Jul 25, 2002, 4:52:58 PM7/25/02
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On Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:42:36 -0500, I read these words from Jim
Stewart <ste...@eiger.ceet.niu.edu> :

>
>
>Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:
>
>> "Lesley Robertson" <l.a.ro...@tnw.tudelft.nl> wrote in message
>> news:ahoe6c$2dv$1...@news.tudelft.nl...
>> >
>> > "Sally" <esd...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>> > news:b8bcd929.02072...@posting.google.com...
>> > > All of you can live where I do - within ground zero of the "Capitol of
>> > > the Greatest Nation on Earth!!!"
>> >
>> > When did you move to Edinburgh?
>> > Lesley Robertson
>> >
>> : )
>> Sad thing is that Merkins can prattle on about the US being 'the greatest
>> nation on earth' etc., etc., ad nauseum, and they really *believe* it !!
>> I wonder if they realise just how ridiculous that makes them look in the
>> eyes of the rest of the world.
>> --
>> The adorable Adam Whyte-Settlar
>> - destined to be forever in the minority
>
>Sitting here in Chicago, 2000 miles from any ocean and 800 miles from our
>neighbor to the north, it is a little hard to discern the "rest of the world".
>Because our market is plunging, everyone is in for trouble. I havn't seen the
>Japanese, Hong Kong, Britian France or Germany be able to save their economy
>when ours plunges.

<stir>
Doesn't appear to have had any effect on Cuba !
</stir>

-- The Despicable Stewart
-- Perfidious Alban
-- http://www.scs.informer.ukgateway.net

Lesley Robertson

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Jul 26, 2002, 5:39:07 AM7/26/02
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"Jim Stewart" <ste...@eiger.ceet.niu.edu> wrote in message
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>
>
> Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:
>

> > 'Look upon my works ye mighty and weep' springs to mind. (something like
> > that anyway!)
> > --
>

> He teacheth my hands to war so a bow of steel is broken by mine arms.
> Thou hast also given me the shield of thy salvation and thy gentleness
hath made
> me great.
> Thou hast enlarged my steps under me so that my feet did not slip.
> I have pursued my enemies and destroyed them. and turned not again until I
had
> consumed them.
> II Samuel 22
>

I think that Adam's referring to Ozymandius (who probably used a different
spelling) rather than Samuel. Mind you, the Samuel quote was probably much
enjoyed by Queen Victoria!
Lesley Robertson

Greyhawk

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Jul 26, 2002, 9:09:00 AM7/26/02
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Why Mr. Hamilton, thank you so much for asking! I am doing just peachy keen
actually, feeling pretty spry these days. Spend my time with my small
business, dressing up as a medieval wench, and being addicted to MMORPGs! Oh,
and being my sons personal taxi service...


And you, how are you and yours? Is your gun rack still upright?

georgette

Lesley Robertson

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Jul 26, 2002, 9:17:40 AM7/26/02
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"Greyhawk" <greyha...@attbi.com> wrote in message
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> dressing up as a medieval wench,

This sparked a certain memory, and I went searching on Google for another
long-lost member of scs and her brother, and I found this:
http://www.kezarcelts.net/fogbrat/Interview.htm
Gosh, it takes me back....... Even the lovely Mr Wade appears!
Lesley Robertson

Adam Whyte-Settlar

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Jul 26, 2002, 9:27:34 AM7/26/02
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"Lesley Robertson" <l.a.ro...@tnw.tudelft.nl> wrote in message
news:ahr5bs$1q7$1...@news.tudelft.nl...

>
> "Jim Stewart" <ste...@eiger.ceet.niu.edu> wrote in message
> news:3D40AC04...@eiger.ceet.niu.edu...
> >
> >
> > Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:
> >
>
> > > 'Look upon my works ye mighty and weep' springs to mind. (something
like
> > > that anyway!)
> > > --
> >
> > He teacheth my hands to war so a bow of steel is broken by mine arms.
> > Thou hast also given me the shield of thy salvation and thy gentleness
> hath made
> > me great.
> > Thou hast enlarged my steps under me so that my feet did not slip.
> > I have pursued my enemies and destroyed them. and turned not again until
I
> had
> > consumed them.
> > II Samuel 22
> >
>
> I think that Adam's referring to Ozymandius

Yeah! Thats the geezer - couldn't remember how to spell his name. (neither
could I as it happens).

(who probably used a different
> spelling) rather than Samuel. Mind you, the Samuel quote was probably much
> enjoyed by Queen Victoria!

I liked it too - just found it a bit puzzling as I couldn't connect it too
anything I had been saying. That happens to me all the time in this ng so I
didn't really think anything of it.

ian-s...@blueyonder.co.uk

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Jul 26, 2002, 10:24:20 AM7/26/02
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On Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:10:20 +1200, I read these words from "Adam
Whyte-Settlar" <grawi...@hotmail.com> :

You were almost there !
It's "Despair" not "Weep"

I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said : "Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear --
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away."

Ozymandias - Percy Bysshe Shelley

Jim Stewart

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Jul 26, 2002, 12:59:18 PM7/26/02
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ian-s...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:

Yea, they still have steam trains, lucky commies.

Jim Stewart

Jim Stewart

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Jul 26, 2002, 1:30:42 PM7/26/02
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Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:

I just wanted to show that the Bible was so full of interesting quotations that
one could argue both sides of any contention with chapter and verse.

Jim Stewart...

Jim Stewart

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Jul 26, 2002, 1:40:07 PM7/26/02
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Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:

Perhaps because there are quite a few Americans. When we are older and
fewer and more wizened, we will still claim it is the greatest nation on earth.
Because it belongs to us. I would be a fool to say that people in other
countries
cant be proud, or even hate their government. But I do not live there. I was not

born there. Certainly one can be just as nearsighted to say that they live in a
place
with no hope, and the future is only to be found in sin and drugs.

Will history repeat itself? probably. But I was HERE for the best of times. I
helped make them and I saw them grow. And it is not over yet.

Jim Stewart

Madra Dubh

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Jul 26, 2002, 5:00:50 PM7/26/02
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"Jim Stewart" <ste...@eiger.ceet.niu.edu> wrote in message
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Can he not swim?
-Conway

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