Hardy
England died some years ago.
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I've been warned by Claire not to be too partisan as it is seemingly not a
good example to show to the kids! I'm getting the hotdogs and bud ready
though I haven't gone as far as buy a US flag. One of the good things in my
life is that I was too wee to remember 1966 - one of the bad things is I
wasn't around to see the US humiliate England in the 1950s. Mind you this is
a different situation. The US are a much better team now. I think they will
be up for it.
Allan
A defeat masterminded by a Scottish manager and Scottish captain.
Of course the USA can beat England, that is not in doubt, however if
both teams play to the best of their ability then it is a no-brainer.
5-2 to England sounds right.
>> I will be supporting the FEBs agains the Yanks. I don't think the
>> result will be as you may expect. I predict 5-2 Ingerland...
>
> England died some years ago.
A remarkably lively corpse, wouldn't you say??
Yes, and as a result of all that, we boycotted
Talisker........................
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England scoring five goals against the USA or winning said game by 3 goals
sounds a bit optimistic from an English viewpoint. In fact scoring five
goals against anyone in the group stages sounds a bit optimistic as they've
never managed it against anyone before. Normally they don't even manage to
score 5 goals in all three groups stage games combined. They got 5 goals in
the 3 games in 1998 and managed 6 in 1982 and they got 6 goals from their 2
games in 1954 but that involved a 4-4 draw with Belgium. Likewise they have
only ever won by three goals in the groups stages on one occassion which was
in 1986 when they beat Poland 3-0.
What made me hit the stats was just that I can't remember England ever being
that impressive in the group stages. 2006 = only 3 goals in all 3
games..............2002 = only 2 goals in all 3
games....................1990 only 2 goals..........................1986
only 3 goals.....................1970 only 2 goals..............1966 only 4
goals................1962 only 4 goals..................1958 only 4
goals...............1950 only 2 goals.
Even Scotland has managed to knock 5 goals past someone :-) New Zealand in
1982. I know cos I was there. Mind you at least the boring white shites
normally qualify for the next round which is far mroe than can be said for
us!
Allan
Although to their credit England have never failed to emerge from the
Group stage.
My apologies for not being clear enough, I wasn't saying that England
would win by 3 goals but on paper that would appear to be the
difference between the 2 teams.
So you are predicting a US win Fred?
You do know that we are talking about the World Cup don't you?
Of course not which is why I stated above that it is perfectly
feasible that the US can beat England, despite that fact that on paper
this should not happen.
US 56 *ng 0.....oops, wrong football!
> Of course the USA can beat England, that is not in doubt, however if
> both teams play to the best of their ability then it is a no-brainer.
> 5-2 to England sounds right.
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> England scoring five goals against the USA or winning said game by 3 goals
> sounds a bit optimistic from an English viewpoint.
Who is this Wayne Rooney fellow?
The local press describe him as quite the potty mouth.
I understand the refs are even training so as to recognize Mister Rooney's
English obscenities.
As though they would card the shinning light of Saxon Soccer)
And English comments to all this seems to be "Well, that's Rooney for you.
He is ever so dedicated to winning".
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Not at all.
Rooney will curse his way through to victory.
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>> Of course the USA can beat England, that is not in doubt, however if
>> both teams play to the best of their ability then it is a no-brainer.
>> 5-2 to England sounds right.
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>> England scoring five goals against the USA or winning said game by 3 goals
>> sounds a bit optimistic from an English viewpoint.
>
>Who is this Wayne Rooney fellow?
>
Google for fat Scouse rob your effing house
I don't give a 'fuck' what he does as long as he scores.
A USasian talking about football, now that it is funny Fred. Keep it
up.
It was you said it, not me.
He's one of England's top players and potentially one of the real greats.
Ugly little bugger though! He's already been sent off in a major finals.
He's very competative, and that is part of what makes him the player he is,
but he's always near the line of going over the limit.
Allan
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Except for the times when they didn't! 1950 and 1958 are two examples where
they failed to qualify for the knock-out stages.
Allan
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That pretty much seems to be the opinion of Brits everywhere.
A long stride from the playing fields of Eton.....
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And when we kick your poofters arses today, what say you then???
As I recall, John Enroe had a similar problem.
The fans loved it so he only got worse.
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>>> Who is this Wayne Rooney fellow?
<snip>
>> He's one of England's top players and potentially one of the real
>> greats. Ugly little bugger though! He's already been sent off in a
>> major finals. He's very competative, and that is part of what makes
>> him the player he is, but he's always near the line of going over
>> the limit.
>
> As I recall, John Enroe had a similar problem.
> The fans loved it so he only got worse.
Is that the same as John McEnroe? ;-)
That was his Scottish cousin.
Out of curiosity, I turned on the game at the 33 minute mark, England looked
quite comfortable with a one nothing lead. It it now 38 and change and the
US just scored the tie goal. The English goalkeeper it appears, just let in
the easiest shot in world cup history !
I trust someone is checking to see if any money transfers are being made to
some offshore account with Mr Green's name on it.
And those angry bees in the background.......
cheers.....Jeff
It was a bit before my time but I've heard that one of the teams that
drew the curtains on *ngland in 1950 was a group of *amateur*
footballers from America. Oh the shame :)
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Brits? I think you should think again given this is a Scottish ng. BTW
I was being humerous given the fact that you had picked up on his
verbal antics.
The English players are poofters? News to lots of people. Even if they
are what concern is that of yours?
Footballs arent the only balls he likes to kick.
USA just scored! woo hoo!
It was truly an awful error. You won't see worse in this WC.
I'm not claiming to be an expert, but aren't they supposed to stop
it when they get both hands on it?
Before you start to make a fool of yourself how about you read my
previous post.
That's what you get for using too much hair gel.
It is England's most infamous defeat. And the US were managed and captained
by Scots.
Allan
Yeagh I can't woo-hoo too much as I was next to the wife who was born and
brought up in England. I imagine it was jumping down the town in the bars
though :-)
Allan
"start"? Where've you been?
Did you notice that the last US player brought on in relief, Holder (I
think) was born in Aberdeen?
Luckily that's only a handicap every four years ;)
> I imagine it was jumping down the town in the
> bars though :-)
>
> Allan
Yes he has been featured in the media here.
Allan
Every two years! I have the European Championships to deal with too. I have
calmed things down a bit. There was a European Championships a few years
back where England lost all three of their group games and we were down in
Norfolk at the time. Her family got fairly peeved at me being so pleased
about it all. One of Claire's cousins said to his friend, who just happened
to be Welsh "Don't you think it is terrible that he wants anyone to beat
England know matter who they are?" The Welsh guy shrugged his shoulder
and said "Not really...we all feel the same in Wales"
Allan
Ah well, that explains it then.............
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Would you guys have felt better had you stomped us into the mud???
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John Enroe's son, I'm thinking.........
> Out of curiosity, I turned on the game at the 33 minute mark, England
> looked quite comfortable with a one nothing lead. It it now 38 and change
> and the US just scored the tie goal. The English goalkeeper it appears,
> just let in the easiest shot in world cup history !
For which Mister Green apparently is to pay dearly.
I'm no export on feetsball BTW, but I enjoyed watching the game.
It seemed to me, by and large, well played.
I began to understand the importance of position when moving the ball down
field.
I saw the intricate manuvers needed to position the ball near the opponent's
goal.
When those guys get near the goal, they strike like snakes.
I just might become a fan of this grand sport.
And I expect an upsurge of interest in the game from my fellow citizens.
And did you fellows notice that our Irishmen kicked the crap out of your
Irishmen??
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Generically, aren't ye all "Brits"?
(Right, Auld Bob?)
Ay gawd, I went and done it again.
One reads some really offensive responses during the World Cup, doesn't one?
No matter.
I'm sure the opportunity will arise for me to be equally
offensive..............
In a footballing sense Britain doesn't really exist. England are England and
Scotland are Scotland and it is the oldest and one of the most bitter
rivalries in the sport. So making comments to Brits in general when talking
about support for the England football team and their fans' opinions on
Rooney doesn't make any real sense.
Allan
Britain doesn't exist in any footballing sense. Look at the 2012
debacle. The number of ignorant posters who still equate England with
Britain is staggering.
It does when you are having a bunch of very proper and somewhat humorless
English and Scottish Brits on.
But on a more serious note, surely even the uptight Scots would rather see
England win than, oh say, America.
Britain doesn't exist in any footballing sense. Look at the 2012
debacle. The number of ignorant posters who still equate England with
Britain is staggering.
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Now you are having me on.
Most Englishmen consider Britain to be England.
The other areas are, to them, useless appendages.
The majority of people I know (certainlt those Scots who follow football)
would like to see 'anyone' beat England. This is the first major tournament
for a while where there hasn't been unmpteen UK media stories moaning at
Scots for not supporting England. The most glaring example I can remember
was in Jedburgh when a German family sheepishly came into the bar to watch a
Germany v England game. It took them about 5 minutes to realise that the
vast majority of folk in the bar wanted Germany to win as much as they did.
Allan
I think Scotland-England is kind of like Duke-UNC in basketball
(or Auburn-Alabama in football).....many fans of each would rather see
ANYONE else win.
You are very wrong. In my experience, being British, it is usually
foreigners who don't know the difference. Citizens of the USA, I love
them to bits, are usually the worst offenders.
There is no comparison. You need to get and about more.
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You're perfectly correct the English know fine the difference between
Britain and England. Always have done of course but nowadys they are also
more likely to use English rather than British symbols etc. For instance up
until the 1990s the Union Flag predominated amongst England fans but now you
hardly see them at all. They are bedecked in the Cross of St George instead.
I've even heard my wife's English relatives moan about the national anthem -
suggesting they should use their own like the other British teams too. I
have noticed that the fans still sing Rule Britannia though so there is
still a wee discrepancy there. I suppose no-one has told them that the words
were written by a Scot :-)
Allan
You guys just can't seem to get along with your neighbors.
;=)
I think Scotland-England is kind of like Duke-UNC in basketball
(or Auburn-Alabama in football).....many fans of each would rather see
ANYONE else win.
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Horse of another color, Deems.
We speak of college football rivalries here.
They have always been bloody affairs.
Yeah, but our guys don't have the bloody history....I was just
trying to keep it heated, but peaceful, rivalries :-)
Jaysus conway, you need either a bigger spoon, or a smaller cauldron.
<g>
cheers......Jeff
Nah it is perfectly possible to sit watching a game with your English friend
and hope that the other side win. It is only a game after all.
Allan
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I remember a game in the 86 world cup when Scotland played a particularly
dirty unsprtsmanlike Uruguay side. In the news reports it continually showed
an interview with one Scottish fan who fumed
"I hate Uruguay..........I mean I really hate Uruguay...........this is how
much I hate Uruguay..........if they were playing England - I'd want England
to win!"
Just about everyone in Scotland understood that to a tea................many
would only want England to beat someone if they really despised the other
team. And not too many many despise any other team that much.
Allan
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I likes to stir 'em up too.
Then I sits back and watch them dance.
I do so love me work......................
;=)
Tell that to Weegies (sp) when the Rangers come to
visit........................
Most people who only have a football rivalry can keep it at that. If there
is sectarianism in the mix then that is where you get the trouble.
Allan
Come attend an Alabama-Tennessee football game.....................
Heck, Alabama-Auburn is nastier....24/7 365.
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You are right.
I had forgotten about that rivalry.
Closer to you....Duke-UNC in basketball is as bad as I've seen.
> > Come attend an Alabama-Tennessee football game.....................
>
> Heck, Alabama-Auburn is nastier....24/7 365.
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> You are right.
> I had forgotten about that rivalry.
Closer to you....Duke-UNC in basketball is as bad as I've seen.
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Stuffed shirts, the lot of them, always looking down their snooty noses at
the poor North Carolina State folks...................
And the Wake Forest folks, ECU, Appy State, UNC-Charlotte,. etc,
etc.
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Well them mountain folk do get a bit edgy....
Not at all asshole. It is clearly you who have fucked up. I originally
said that it was more than possible that the USA could beat England,
despite that fact on paper they are a "better" team. You made some
sort of facile joke about paper and grass, covering up your complete
lack of knowledge about the sport. Do yourself a favour stick to
something you know about. I do realise that narrows down your options
to the size of pinhead.
BTW you do realise that the USA did not fact beat England?
"asshole.
you who have fucked up.
facile joke
your complete lack of knowledge
stick to something you know about.
that narrows down your options to the size of pinhead"
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You are not a very nice fellow, are you?
The Phantom Piper disappears and here you are, attempting to inherit his
crown.
Does the truth hurt?
Do you have any comprehension skills at all Fred? Your recent replies/
posts suggest that you struggle in this area. Your poor attempt at
sarcasm is very weak indeed.
Does the truth hurt?
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I'll comment on that once I have seen truth in one of your posts.
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Please hasten to provide us with examples of strong sarcasms, preferably
from your own postings.
Perhaps this is a reincarnation of old double P.
You ought to improve your reading skills because they are clearly
lacking. Please show me where I stated that the USA could not beat
England, in fact I stated the opposite. What is really quite pathetic
here is the likes of yourself and your mate Fred jumping and up down
like excited school kids because of the draw, and then saying "I told
you so". Looks as though what I did wrong was object to your childish
behaviour. I am really quite sorry.
Where did I lie? Bilge is what you do best, in fact it is the only
thing you do. Have fun with your mate Conway.
Grow up you are making a fool of yourself.
And there we have it, no chance at all of mature discussion with more
"weak sarcasm" from dull Fred. You don't even like or understand the
game yet feel free to pontificate and pass judgement. Laughable at
best.
Great to see you and Fred getting along so well Conway.