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MatthewOutland

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Jan 3, 2004, 2:13:58 AM1/3/04
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Is it because we have freeedom and you brits are a bunch of
totalitarian bullies?


Is it becasue we're big and british are short and ugly?

Is it because we're stronger than you?


If you can get past these, and still ahte america, I would like a
detailed explanation as to why you dislike american culture

Adam Whyte-Settlar

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Jan 3, 2004, 2:41:46 AM1/3/04
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"MatthewOutland" <matthewo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Is it because we have freeedom

: )
Sometimes it's your sad delusions which simultaneously gall and amuse us,
but mostly it's because people who think they know everything irritate those
of us who do.
A W-S


Pete

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Jan 3, 2004, 3:36:48 AM1/3/04
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Here here!!

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Michael Cash

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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 20:41:46 +1300, "Adam Whyte-Settlar"
<grawi...@hotmail.com> brought down from the Mount tablets
inscribed:

Aren't you Whyte-Settlars the ones who killed all the Indians?

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Koufuku7

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Jan 3, 2004, 4:06:37 AM1/3/04
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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 20:41:46 +1300, "Adam Whyte-Settlar"
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Maybe you're both just upset that you're not from Canada. ;P

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Paul C

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Jan 3, 2004, 4:35:49 AM1/3/04
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On 2 Jan 2004 23:13:58 -0800, matthewo...@yahoo.com
(MatthewOutland) wrote:


>
>If you can get past these, and still ahte america, I would like a
>detailed explanation as to why you dislike american culture


"american culture" Isn't that an oxymoron>


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Paul C

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On 2 Jan 2004 23:13:58 -0800, matthewo...@yahoo.com
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>Is it becasue we're big and british are short and ugly?

I think you misspelt 'grossly obese'.


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James W. West

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Jan 3, 2004, 4:56:46 AM1/3/04
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snip


>
> If you can get past these, and still ahte america, I would like a
> detailed explanation as to why you dislike american culture

Who on earth said we dislike American culture?

We love American culture.

You are mistaking personal animosity, because you're a wanker, for generic
hatred.


James


Allan Connochie

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Jan 3, 2004, 5:06:44 AM1/3/04
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"James W. West" <jw...@pigtail.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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Post of the day! Mind you it's only 10am here - but post of the day just
the same.

cheers

Allan


Michael Cash

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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 19:36:48 +1100, "Pete"
<N0_SPAM...@optusnet.com.au> brought down from the Mount tablets
inscribed:

>Here here!!


Where where?

(Forgive me for not top-posting, if it is the norm in the group you're
participating from).

Adam Whyte-Settlar

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Jan 3, 2004, 5:58:25 AM1/3/04
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"Michael Cash" <bugg...@fake.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 20:41:46 +1300, "Adam Whyte-Settlar"
> <grawi...@hotmail.com> brought down from the Mount tablets
> inscribed:
>
> >
> >"MatthewOutland" <matthewo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:52210046.04010...@posting.google.com...
> >
> >> Is it because we have freeedom
> >
> >: )
> >Sometimes it's your sad delusions which simultaneously gall and amuse us,
> >but mostly it's because people who think they know everything irritate
those
> >of us who do.
> >A W-S
>
> Aren't you Whyte-Settlars the ones who killed all the Indians?

No - not all of them.
A W-S

Gary Sutherland

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Jan 3, 2004, 6:47:00 AM1/3/04
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In article <52210046.04010...@posting.google.com>,
matthewo...@yahoo.com (MatthewOutland) wrote:

> Is it because we have freeedom and you brits are a bunch of totalitarian
bullies?

Erm... look whose country's government was so determined to invade Iraq...

> Is it becasue we're big and british are short and ugly?

You mean fat, don't you?

> Is it because we're stronger than you?

You should take more showers.

> If you can get past these, and still hate america, I would like a


> detailed explanation as to why you dislike american culture

You're mistaking hate for pity. Easily done - the words do have the same
number of letters, after all.

American culture? When I can find some I'll give you my comments on it.

I'm presuming we're talking about the USA here and not Canada, or Central
or South America - or is the USA intending to invade them too?

Slainte
Gary

Pemo

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Jan 3, 2004, 7:42:02 AM1/3/04
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"MatthewOutland" <matthewo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>

> If you can get past these, and still ahte america, I would like a


> detailed explanation as to why you dislike american culture

"American culture" is an oxymoron.

We don't hate America - we just recognise her for what she is - a big, fat,
rich, immature bully.

When America grows up she will understand (we hope).

The Superman mantra of "Truth, Justice and the American Way" is as ephemeral
as it is nonsensical (as a little kid I wondered why the great "American
Way" would need an alien to defend it ...)

Pemo

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Michael Cash

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Jan 3, 2004, 8:16:50 AM1/3/04
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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 23:42:02 +1100, "Pemo" <pe...@melbourne-aust.au>

brought down from the Mount tablets inscribed:

>


> "MatthewOutland" <matthewo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:52210046.04010...@posting.google.com...
>>
>
>> If you can get past these, and still ahte america, I would like a
>> detailed explanation as to why you dislike american culture
>
>"American culture" is an oxymoron.
>
>We don't hate America - we just recognise her for what she is - a big, fat,
>rich, immature bully.

Yes, but you'll have to cut us just a bit of slack as we happen to
come by those traits honestly. We learned them from our British
forebears, back when they were the world's premiere big, fat, rich,
(the immature is arguable) bully.


>
>When America grows up she will understand (we hope).

When you're the 800 pound gorilla, all you have to understand is that
you may sit where you damned well please.


>
>The Superman mantra of "Truth, Justice and the American Way" is as ephemeral
>as it is nonsensical (as a little kid I wondered why the great "American
>Way" would need an alien to defend it ...)

It's also redundant or oxymoronic or one of those other big words I
never really learned the meaning of.

Madra Dubh

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Jan 3, 2004, 8:37:06 AM1/3/04
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"MatthewOutland" <matthewo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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And upon what do you base these conclusions?
(Quick, close the gates, the trolls are back!)


Madra Dubh

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Jan 3, 2004, 8:38:03 AM1/3/04
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"Michael Cash" <bugg...@fake.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 20:41:46 +1300, "Adam Whyte-Settlar"
> <grawi...@hotmail.com> brought down from the Mount tablets
> inscribed:
>
> >
> >"MatthewOutland" <matthewo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:52210046.04010...@posting.google.com...
> >
> >> Is it because we have freeedom
> >
> >: )
> >Sometimes it's your sad delusions which simultaneously gall and amuse us,
> >but mostly it's because people who think they know everything irritate
those
> >of us who do.
> >A W-S
>
> Aren't you Whyte-Settlars the ones who killed all the Indians?

Well, he had a shot or two at me but so far hasn't succeeded.


Iain

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Jan 3, 2004, 9:52:01 AM1/3/04
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matthewo...@yahoo.com (MatthewOutland) wrote in message news:<52210046.04010...@posting.google.com>...

Okay, so the British Londoner television chef Jamie Oliver is on
American television, and certain local London slangs are explained to
the American audience beforehand, as would be expected. Afterwards,
however, basic words such as "texture" and "extraordinary" are
explained to the adult audience as if they are school children. I
could not imagine this as necessary anywhere is Western Europe or any
other English speaking nation. The United States is a country
fragmented into little pockets of ignorance, and this is why that type
of communication is necessary. This is my own main criticism of United
States culture.

I personally have never resented nations with more military strength.
British short and ugly? I wouldn't know where to begin with this one.
Bullies? The main thing which keeps Britain free is that the British
cannot ever be bothered oppressing one another. That's why there has
never been a single lasting political revolution on this island since
history began. Totalitarian? You're going to have to be more specific
but just about everyone who has made such claims had never an idea
what they were discussing and ran along the lines or "YOUR COMMIE
QUEEN DOESNT LET YOU SUE HOSPITALS BECAUSE THE BBC FORBIDS IT" and so
on.
--
Iain

Kingsley Matthews

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Jan 3, 2004, 10:04:01 AM1/3/04
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On 2 Jan 2004 23:13:58 -0800, matthewo...@yahoo.com
(MatthewOutland) wrote:

There's no such thing as american culture, therefore nothing to hate.

Duke of URL

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Jan 3, 2004, 10:06:47 AM1/3/04
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Envy - they still long for the days when Britain was really important
and had an Empire. It aggravates them that we have the freedom,
prosperity and living conditions they don't.


The Devil's Advocaat

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Jan 3, 2004, 10:16:19 AM1/3/04
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"Michael Cash" <bugg...@fake.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 23:42:02 +1100, "Pemo" <pe...@melbourne-aust.au>
> brought down from the Mount tablets inscribed:
>
> >
> > "MatthewOutland" <matthewo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:52210046.04010...@posting.google.com...
> >>
> >
> >> If you can get past these, and still ahte america, I would like a
> >> detailed explanation as to why you dislike american culture
> >
> >"American culture" is an oxymoron.
> >
> >We don't hate America - we just recognise her for what she is - a big,
fat,
> >rich, immature bully.
>
> Yes, but you'll have to cut us just a bit of slack as we happen to
> come by those traits honestly. We learned them from our British
> forebears, back when they were the world's premiere big, fat, rich,
> (the immature is arguable) bully.

Fair dos, but you've had plenty of time to wise up.

mtfe...@netmapsonscape.net

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Jan 3, 2004, 10:33:59 AM1/3/04
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There's McDonalds'.

Mike

mtfe...@netmapsonscape.net

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Jan 3, 2004, 10:30:52 AM1/3/04
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In fj.life.in-japan Michael Cash <bugg...@fake.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 20:41:46 +1300, "Adam Whyte-Settlar"
> <grawi...@hotmail.com> brought down from the Mount tablets
> inscribed:

>>
>>"MatthewOutland" <matthewo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:52210046.04010...@posting.google.com...
>>
>>> Is it because we have freeedom
>>
>>: )
>>Sometimes it's your sad delusions which simultaneously gall and amuse us,
>>but mostly it's because people who think they know everything irritate those
>>of us who do.
>>A W-S

> Aren't you Whyte-Settlars the ones who killed all the Indians?

They kille all of us???

Mike

mtfe...@netmapsonscape.net

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Jan 3, 2004, 10:35:21 AM1/3/04
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In fj.life.in-japan Pemo <pe...@melbourne-aust.au> wrote:

> "MatthewOutland" <matthewo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:52210046.04010...@posting.google.com...
>>

>> If you can get past these, and still ahte america, I would like a
>> detailed explanation as to why you dislike american culture

> "American culture" is an oxymoron.

> We don't hate America - we just recognise her for what she is - a big, fat,
> rich, immature bully.

With better dental work than youse guys.

Mike

Michael Cash

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On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 13:38:03 GMT, "Madra Dubh"
<cca...@worldnet.att.net> brought down from the Mount tablets
inscribed:

>
>"Michael Cash" <bugg...@fake.com> wrote in message
>news:420dvv0ir4f2v8bpa...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 20:41:46 +1300, "Adam Whyte-Settlar"
>> <grawi...@hotmail.com> brought down from the Mount tablets
>> inscribed:
>>
>> >
>> >"MatthewOutland" <matthewo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >news:52210046.04010...@posting.google.com...
>> >
>> >> Is it because we have freeedom
>> >
>> >: )
>> >Sometimes it's your sad delusions which simultaneously gall and amuse us,
>> >but mostly it's because people who think they know everything irritate
>those
>> >of us who do.
>> >A W-S
>>
>> Aren't you Whyte-Settlars the ones who killed all the Indians?
>
>Well, he had a shot or two at me but so far hasn't succeeded.

No fair ducking and dodging. Stand up straight, now.

Michael Cash

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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 15:30:52 +0000 (UTC), mtfe...@netMAPSONscape.net

brought down from the Mount tablets inscribed:

>In fj.life.in-japan Michael Cash <bugg...@fake.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 20:41:46 +1300, "Adam Whyte-Settlar"
>> <grawi...@hotmail.com> brought down from the Mount tablets
>> inscribed:
>
>>>
>>>"MatthewOutland" <matthewo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:52210046.04010...@posting.google.com...
>>>
>>>> Is it because we have freeedom
>>>
>>>: )
>>>Sometimes it's your sad delusions which simultaneously gall and amuse us,
>>>but mostly it's because people who think they know everything irritate those
>>>of us who do.
>>>A W-S
>
>> Aren't you Whyte-Settlars the ones who killed all the Indians?
>
>They kille all of us???

Sure. Think back to the Indians who were around in the bad ole
Whyte-Settlar days. How many of them are alive?

I rest my case.

Rick

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Michael Cash wrote:

> On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 13:38:03 GMT, "Madra Dubh"
> <cca...@worldnet.att.net> brought down from the Mount tablets
> inscribed:
>

> >> >"MatthewOutland" <matthewo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:52210046.04010...@posting.google.com...
> >> >
> >> >> Is it because we have freeedom
> >> >
> >> >: )
> >> >Sometimes it's your sad delusions which simultaneously gall and amuse us,
> >> >but mostly it's because people who think they know everything irritate
> >those
> >> >of us who do.
> >> >A W-S
> >>
> >> Aren't you Whyte-Settlars the ones who killed all the Indians?
> >
> >Well, he had a shot or two at me but so far hasn't succeeded.
>
> No fair ducking and dodging. Stand up straight, now.
>
> --
>
> Michael Cash
>

Why is it that the Europeans think the only "fair" way to fight is to stand up
and shoot at each other? Massive volleys of firepower...
Granted, it is a grand sight to see for the onlookers, but seems rather
dangerous from the participant level....
Nope. I'll shoot from the trees. Thank you very much. Each shot intended for
the recipient. Much more personal, in my opinion. :-)

The Devil's Advocaat

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<mtfe...@netMAPSONscape.net> wrote in message
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I've never understood why the Americans place such great store by the state
of their teeth. For the sake of their health, the size of their waistlines
is much more important.


Sally

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Jan 3, 2004, 11:50:02 AM1/3/04
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Gary...@HarrowdenIT.co.uk (Gary Sutherland) wrote in message news:<memo.2004010...@Gary.gary>...

American culture - ebonics? slang speech so unintelligible that
unless you belong to the particular group using it, you have no idea
what is being said?
Matthew Outland - outlandish? - a person in complete and total
ignornace of anything except his own conceit!

Sally

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"Allan Connochie" <co...@conno.greatxscape.net> wrote in message news:<3ff6...@news.greennet.net>...

Allan - the time on your post says 0239! Where are ye mon? Top of the day to ye!

Ruiseart agus Ceit

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Jan 3, 2004, 11:45:03 AM1/3/04
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"MatthewOutland" wrote:

> Is it because we have freeedom and you brits are a bunch of
> totalitarian bullies?


Hmmm...me thinks trollishness is afoot.


> Is it becasue we're big and british are short and ugly?


See above!


> Is it because we're stronger than you?


(OK, I'll bite <grin>) You're "stronger" in regard to overall fire-power,
but way weaker on 'intel' and skills (hence the constant "friendly-fire"
crap that has occured in EVERY war that the USA has ever been involved in).


> If you can get past these,


Zoomed by <grin>.


>and still ahte america,


No-one that I know "ahtes" America :)


>I would like a
> detailed explanation as to why you dislike american culture


Yawn.

Ruiseart.
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Duke of URL

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In news:pcqdvvgms6of0p8m0...@4ax.com,
Michael Cash <bugg...@fake.com> radiated into the WorldWideWait:

> On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 13:38:03 GMT, "Madra Dubh"
> <cca...@worldnet.att.net> brought down from the Mount tablets
> inscribed:
>> "Michael Cash" <bugg...@fake.com> wrote in message
>> news:420dvv0ir4f2v8bpa...@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 20:41:46 +1300, "Adam Whyte-Settlar"
>>> <grawi...@hotmail.com> brought down from the Mount tablets
>>> inscribed:
>>>> "MatthewOutland" <matthewo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:52210046.04010...@posting.google.com...
>>>>
>>>>> Is it because we have freeedom

>>>> Sometimes it's your sad delusions which simultaneously gall and


>>>> amuse us, but mostly it's because people who think they know
>>>> everything irritate those of us who do.
>>>> A W-S
>>>
>>> Aren't you Whyte-Settlars the ones who killed all the Indians?
>>
>> Well, he had a shot or two at me but so far hasn't succeeded.
>
> No fair ducking and dodging. Stand up straight, now.

He can't right now - Madra is working on his Skulking Merit Badge.


Michael Cash

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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 11:17:36 -0600, "Duke of URL"
<macbenahATkdsiDOTnet> brought down from the Mount tablets inscribed:

Kewl! We have a new playmate over here in fj.life.in-japan (forgive me
for not knowing what are of this crosspost fun house you're coming
from) who through personal example is schooling us in the finer points
of Whiny-Assed Moping (with a minor in
I'm-Just-A-Wee-Bit-Superior-To-Thee). We're learning loads.

nigel. carron

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Jan 3, 2004, 12:33:18 PM1/3/04
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In message <52210046.04010...@posting.google.com>,
MatthewOutland <matthewo...@yahoo.com> writes

>Is it because we have freeedom and you brits are a bunch of
>totalitarian bullies?
>

Freedom to be an arse?

>
>Is it becasue we're big and british are short and ugly?
>

Not met an American yet I have had to look up to..

>
>
>Is it because we're stronger than you?
>

Woody Allen is Stronger than me?

>
>If you can get past these, and still ahte america, I would like a

>detailed explanation as to why you dislike american culture

I dislike you - but ou aren't American Culture - more like an American
reject..


--
njc AKA m...@baybus.co.uk (Fastpay, Paypal & nochex e-mail)

nigel. carron

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In message <vvdmkdh...@corp.supernews.com>, Duke of URL
<macbenahATkdsiDOTnet@?.?.invalid> writes

>Envy - they still long for the days when Britain was really important
>and had an Empire. It aggravates them that we have the freedom,
>prosperity and living conditions they don't.

One troll and you get all defensive.. Something to hide?

vernon...@oyama.ca

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Jan 3, 2004, 2:43:20 PM1/3/04
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In article <bt6rne$b9s$1...@sparta.btinternet.com>,
thedevil...@hotmail.com says...
) ><mtfe...@netMAPSONscape.net> wrote in message
) >news:bt6nfo$5rh$3...@news.Stanford.EDU...
) >> In fj.life.in-japan Pemo <pe...@melbourne-aust.au> wrote:
) >>
) >> > "MatthewOutland" <matthewo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
) >> > news:52210046.04010...@posting.google.com...
) >> >>
) >>
) >> >> If you can get past these, and still ahte america, I would like a
) >> >> detailed explanation as to why you dislike american culture
) >>
) >> > "American culture" is an oxymoron.
) >>
) >> > We don't hate America - we just recognise her for what she is - a big,
) >fat,
) >> > rich, immature bully.
) >>
) >> With better dental work than youse guys.
) >>
) >> Mike
) >
) >I've never understood why the Americans place such great store by the state
) >of their teeth. For the sake of their health, the size of their waistlines
) >is much more important.
) >

Are you sure?

http://www.nidr.nih.gov/spectrum/NIDCR2/2textsec3.htm

Verno

Madra Dubh

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Jan 3, 2004, 3:07:48 PM1/3/04
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"Michael Cash" <bugg...@fake.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 13:38:03 GMT, "Madra Dubh"
> <cca...@worldnet.att.net> brought down from the Mount tablets
> inscribed:
>
> >
> >"Michael Cash" <bugg...@fake.com> wrote in message
> >news:420dvv0ir4f2v8bpa...@4ax.com...
> >> On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 20:41:46 +1300, "Adam Whyte-Settlar"
> >> <grawi...@hotmail.com> brought down from the Mount tablets
> >> inscribed:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"MatthewOutland" <matthewo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:52210046.04010...@posting.google.com...
> >> >
> >> >> Is it because we have freeedom
> >> >
> >> >: )
> >> >Sometimes it's your sad delusions which simultaneously gall and amuse
us,
> >> >but mostly it's because people who think they know everything irritate
> >those
> >> >of us who do.
> >> >A W-S
> >>
> >> Aren't you Whyte-Settlars the ones who killed all the Indians?
> >
> >Well, he had a shot or two at me but so far hasn't succeeded.
>
> No fair ducking and dodging. Stand up straight, now.

Nah, I hides behind the White Oak trees and shoot his butt full of arrows.
He do step lively then.

Madra Dubh

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"Rick" <notgi...@alltel.net> wrote in message
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Took the words from me mouth, Rick.
The objective being to dispatch your opponent, not to "Play fair".


Madra Dubh

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"Duke of URL" <macbenahATkdsiDOTnet> wrote in message
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It's a cinch, Mose.
Those New Zealand guys are easy marks.
They come crashing through the underbrush like some sort of spavined
buffalo.
You know exactly where they are the whole time they're in the woods.


Madra Dubh

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"Michael Cash" <bugg...@fake.com> wrote in message
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Are you in Japan, Michael?
Anata no wa, doko desuka?


Madra Dubh

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"Kingsley Matthews" <toomuchspam.ki...@ntlworld.com> wrote in
message news:5emdvv0c0rd2earub...@4ax.com...

Actually there are a dozen or more American cultures, Kingsley.
(But you knew that)

Madra Dubh

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"Duke of URL" <macbenahATkdsiDOTnet> wrote in message
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> Envy - they still long for the days when Britain was really important
> and had an Empire. It aggravates them that we have the freedom,
> prosperity and living conditions they don't.
>
Well, Mose, that tore it. They'll not speak to us for a week now.


Madra Dubh

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<mtfe...@netMAPSONscape.net> wrote in message
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Nah, we're still hide out in the woods..............waiting.


Duke of URL

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Jan 3, 2004, 3:52:03 PM1/3/04
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In news:vc1evvsaddgs53q0j...@4ax.com,

Michael Cash <bugg...@fake.com> radiated into the WorldWideWait:
> On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 11:17:36 -0600, "Duke of URL"
> <macbenahATkdsiDOTnet> brought down from the Mount tablets
> inscribed:
>> In news:pcqdvvgms6of0p8m0...@4ax.com,
>> Michael Cash <bugg...@fake.com> radiated into the WorldWideWait:
>>> On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 13:38:03 GMT, "Madra Dubh"
>>> <cca...@worldnet.att.net> brought down from the Mount tablets
>>> inscribed:
>>>> "Michael Cash" <bugg...@fake.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:420dvv0ir4f2v8bpa...@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 20:41:46 +1300, "Adam Whyte-Settlar"
>>>>> <grawi...@hotmail.com> brought down from the Mount tablets
>>>>> inscribed:
>>>>>> "MatthewOutland" <matthewo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:52210046.04010...@posting.google.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is it because we have freeedom
>>
>>>>>> Sometimes it's your sad delusions which simultaneously gall and
>>>>>> amuse us, but mostly it's because people who think they know
>>>>>> everything irritate those of us who do.
>>>>>
>>>>> Aren't you Whyte-Settlars the ones who killed all the Indians?
>>>>
>>>> Well, he had a shot or two at me but so far hasn't succeeded.
>>>
>>> No fair ducking and dodging. Stand up straight, now.
>>
>> He can't right now - Madra is working on his Skulking Merit Badge.
>
> Kewl! We have a new playmate over here in fj.life.in-japan (forgive
> me for not knowing what are of this crosspost fun house you're
> coming from) who through personal example is schooling us in the
> finer points of Whiny-Assed Moping (with a minor in
> I'm-Just-A-Wee-Bit-Superior-To-Thee). We're learning loads.

Coming to you through soc.culture.scottish
Sounds like a great training course. When you graduate, do you go
directly into a job with the Department of State?


Duke of URL

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Jan 3, 2004, 3:53:56 PM1/3/04
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In news:QnFJb.590352$0v4.23...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net,
Madra Dubh <cca...@worldnet.att.net> radiated into the WorldWideWait:

I know, I know, but it was so EASY... I just couldn't resist it.


Adam Whyte-Settlar

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"Duke of URL" <macbenahATkdsiDOTnet> wrote in message
news:vvdmkdh...@corp.supernews.com...
> Envy - they still long for the days when Britain was really important
> and had an Empire. It aggravates them that we have the freedom,
> prosperity and living conditions they don't.

I don't think there is much of a gap re 'living conditions' these days, but
your much vaunted 'freedom' is largely illusary.
You are perfectly free to do and think exactly what your government allows.
Not that the UK is all that much better but it *is* better.
A W-S
PS - did you know it is illegal for a woman in Texas to own more than five
vibrators for example?
What's all that about?

The Devil's Advocaat

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<vernon...@oyama.ca> wrote in message
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I'd still stake my British fillings against the average American's bulk.


Tom

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MatthewOutland wrote:

> Is it because we have freeedom and you brits are a bunch of
> totalitarian bullies?
>
> Is it becasue we're big and british are short and ugly?
>
> Is it because we're stronger than you?
>

> If you can get past these, and still ahte america, I would like a

> detailed explanation as to why you dislike american culture

Well I for one don't hate all Mercan culture - only some of it. I like
Star-Trek for instance and the Simpsons but hate Hamburgers and
McDonalds. It is probably the arrogance of the US assuming they are the
freeest country on the planet when more likely the opposite is true.
Having said that, there are many things I dislike about Scotland, but
don't get me started on the Welsh..!!
As for the Japanese...

Tom


mtfe...@netmapsonscape.net

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Jan 3, 2004, 7:08:07 PM1/3/04
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In fj.life.in-japan Michael Cash <bugg...@fake.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 15:30:52 +0000 (UTC), mtfe...@netMAPSONscape.net
> brought down from the Mount tablets inscribed:

>>> Aren't you Whyte-Settlars the ones who killed all the Indians?
>>
>>They killed all of us???

> Sure. Think back to the Indians who were around in the bad ole
> Whyte-Settlar days. How many of them are alive?

Well, there's me, my mom, kids, sisters (and their kids)...

I can come up with some others.

> I rest my case.

Careful; when you do that, you aren't allowed to post on the thread
anymore.

Mike

Dewi

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Jan 3, 2004, 7:18:10 PM1/3/04
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On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 11:52:25 +1300, Tom <some...@nOpam.com> uttered:

>Well I for one don't hate all Mercan culture - only some of it. I like
>Star-Trek for instance and the Simpsons but hate Hamburgers and
>McDonalds. It is probably the arrogance of the US assuming they are the
>freeest country on the planet when more likely the opposite is true.
>Having said that, there are many things I dislike about Scotland, but
>don't get me started on the Welsh..!!

You want to be Anne Robinsons toy.


>As for the Japanese...
>
>Tom
>

--
Dewi,

(remove spin for email)

mtfe...@netmapsonscape.net

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Jan 3, 2004, 7:12:21 PM1/3/04
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In fj.life.in-japan Madra Dubh <cca...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> <mtfe...@netMAPSONscape.net> wrote in message

>> > Aren't you Whyte-Settlars the ones who killed all the Indians?
>>
>> They kille all of us???

> Nah, we're still hide out in the woods..............waiting.

I hid in the woods in Wisconsin when I was a kid. Now, I have a house
in San Francisco; much more comfortable.

Mike

mtfe...@netmapsonscape.net

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Jan 3, 2004, 7:10:06 PM1/3/04
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In fj.life.in-japan The Devil's Advocaat <thedevil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> <mtfe...@netMAPSONscape.net> wrote in message
> news:bt6nfo$5rh$3...@news.Stanford.EDU...
>> In fj.life.in-japan Pemo <pe...@melbourne-aust.au> wrote:
>>
>> >> If you can get past these, and still ahte america, I would like a
>> >> detailed explanation as to why you dislike american culture

>> > "American culture" is an oxymoron.

>> > We don't hate America - we just recognise her for what she is - a big,
> fat,
>> > rich, immature bully.
>>
>> With better dental work than youse guys.

> I've never understood why the Americans place such great store by the state
> of their teeth.

I guess if we had bad teeth, we be forced to eat blood pudding, boiled
beef, and other British "delicacies".

>For the sake of their health, the size of their waistlines
> is much more important.

Yeah, but we look better when we smile.

Mike

Adam Whyte-Settlar

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"Alan Hardie" <axha...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
news:p2gevv0f69f4nm1ji...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 21:12:49 GMT, rus...@concentric.net (MacHamish)
> wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 10:02:45 +1300, "Adam Whyte-Settlar"

> >>PS - did you know it is illegal for a woman in Texas to own more than
five
> >>vibrators for example?
> >>What's all that about?
> >
> >It has to do with the legal and proper disposal of batteries. The city
> >dumps down there in Texas were filling up with the damn things, and they
> >were leaking noxious chemicals into the water table. Next question.
>
> Okey doke.
>
> Why couldn't they have 10 vibrators and one battery?
>
Seems reasonable.
The first vibrator was steam-powered.
It was used by doctors in the treatment of 'hysteria' in women.
The method was to induce a 'mental apoplexism' following which the patient
apparently felt much better - for a while.
A W-S


vernon...@oyama.ca

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Jan 3, 2004, 9:29:20 PM1/3/04
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In article <bt7bgl$a2h$1...@hercules.btinternet.com>,
thedevil...@hotmail.com says...
) ><vernon...@oyama.ca> wrote in message
) >news:MPG.1a60bb80d...@shawnews.vc.shawcable.net...
) >> In article <bt6rne$b9s$1...@sparta.btinternet.com>,
) >> thedevil...@hotmail.com says...
) >> ) ><mtfe...@netMAPSONscape.net> wrote in message
) >> ) >news:bt6nfo$5rh$3...@news.Stanford.EDU...

) >> ) >> In fj.life.in-japan Pemo <pe...@melbourne-aust.au> wrote:
) >> ) >>
) >> ) >> > "MatthewOutland" <matthewo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
) >> ) >> > news:52210046.04010...@posting.google.com...
) >> ) >> >>
) >> ) >>

) >> ) >> >> If you can get past these, and still ahte america, I would like a
) >> ) >> >> detailed explanation as to why you dislike american culture

) >> ) >>
) >> ) >> > "American culture" is an oxymoron.
) >> ) >>
) >> ) >> > We don't hate America - we just recognise her for what she is - a
) >big,
) >> ) >fat,
) >> ) >> > rich, immature bully.

) >> ) >>
) >> ) >> With better dental work than youse guys.
) >> ) >>
) >> ) >> Mike
) >> ) >
) >> ) >I've never understood why the Americans place such great store by the
) >state
) >> ) >of their teeth. For the sake of their health, the size of their
) >waistlines
) >> ) >is much more important.
) >> ) >
) >>
) >> Are you sure?
) >>
) >> http://www.nidr.nih.gov/spectrum/NIDCR2/2textsec3.htm
) >>
) >> Verno
) >
) >I'd still stake my British fillings against the average American's bulk.
) >

Ouch! That would hurt!

Verno

Adam Whyte-Settlar

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Jan 3, 2004, 10:43:03 PM1/3/04
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> The method was to induce a 'mental apoplexism'

Sorry - make that 'hysterical paroxysm'.
I just checked.
This was viewed as being a crisis of the disease 'hysteria' which roughly
translated means 'womb disease'.
A W-S


Helen Ramsay

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Jan 3, 2004, 10:40:59 PM1/3/04
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"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawi...@hotmail.com> wrote
> "Alan Hardie" <axha...@clara.co.uk> wrote

> > Why couldn't they have 10 vibrators and one battery?
> >
> Seems reasonable.
> The first vibrator was steam-powered.
> It was used by doctors in the treatment of 'hysteria' in women.
> The method was to induce a 'mental apoplexism' following which the
patient
> apparently felt much better - for a while.

Jaysus! The things you learn on scs!

Cheers, Helen
hramsay at cogeco dot ca


MatthewOutland

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Jan 3, 2004, 11:29:01 PM1/3/04
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>
> Well I for one don't hate all Mercan culture - only some of it. I like
> Star-Trek for instance and the Simpsons but hate Hamburgers and
> McDonalds. It is probably the arrogance of the US assuming they are the
> freeest country on the planet when more likely the opposite is true.
> Having said that, there are many things I dislike about Scotland, but

capitalism and most industrial technologies were invented in scotland,
yet the english shamelesly steal credit for it.

I suppose its easy to disdain whoever does all the work. Its all you
english do.

Michael Cash

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Jan 3, 2004, 11:49:51 PM1/3/04
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On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 20:11:58 GMT, "Madra Dubh"

Where is my what? Whatever it is, I sincerely hope it is firmly
attached to me.

Michael Cash

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Jan 3, 2004, 11:50:32 PM1/3/04
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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 14:52:03 -0600, "Duke of URL"

Dunno. We're all just starting on the course, but yes, the future
looks bright.

Michael Cash

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Jan 3, 2004, 11:54:26 PM1/3/04
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On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 00:08:07 +0000 (UTC), mtfe...@netMAPSONscape.net

brought down from the Mount tablets inscribed:

>In fj.life.in-japan Michael Cash <bugg...@fake.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 15:30:52 +0000 (UTC), mtfe...@netMAPSONscape.net
>> brought down from the Mount tablets inscribed:
>
>>>> Aren't you Whyte-Settlars the ones who killed all the Indians?
>>>
>>>They killed all of us???
>
>> Sure. Think back to the Indians who were around in the bad ole
>> Whyte-Settlar days. How many of them are alive?
>
>Well, there's me, my mom, kids, sisters (and their kids)...

Nope. Not a one of you was at Plymouth Rock to meet the boat. Those
Indians are dead. The Whyte-Settlars came, and none of those Indians
are here. Therefore the Whyte-Settlars killed them all. E pluribus
unum, quid pro quo, ipso facto, hybiscus carborundum, et cetera et
cetera. It's really all quite clear.


>
>I can come up with some others.
>
>> I rest my case.
>
>Careful; when you do that, you aren't allowed to post on the thread
>anymore.

Had to rest it for a minute, I was pooped. (But not pissed, oh no).

Michael Cash

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Jan 4, 2004, 12:01:04 AM1/4/04
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On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 10:02:45 +1300, "Adam Whyte-Settlar"
<grawi...@hotmail.com> brought down from the Mount tablets
inscribed:

>

Illegal to sell them in Alabama at all.

Adam Whyte-Settlar

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Jan 4, 2004, 12:06:06 AM1/4/04
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"Helen Ramsay" <r...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bt8204$46mfa$1...@ID-207901.news.uni-berlin.de...

> "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawi...@hotmail.com> wrote
> > "Alan Hardie" <axha...@clara.co.uk> wrote
>
> > > Why couldn't they have 10 vibrators and one battery?
> > >
> > Seems reasonable.
> > The first vibrator was steam-powered.
> > It was used by doctors in the treatment of 'hysteria' in women.
> > The method was to induce an [hysterical paroxysm] following which the

> patient
> > apparently felt much better - for a while.
>
> Jaysus! The things you learn on scs!

Here's a picture of it - note that the legs of the table are bolted to the
floor.

http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/~delmare/images/manipulator.jpg

A W-S


mcdgi

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Jan 4, 2004, 12:04:26 AM1/4/04
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<SNIP>, and still ahte america, I would like a

> detailed explanation as to why you dislike american culture

As an American, even I find your post troll-like, offensive, displays
incredible ignorance, and accomplishes nothing to strengthen ties with one
of our most important and best friends. All you do with such a post is feed
and confirm the worst they think about us.

Give it a rest. For my friends, colleages abroad, I am afraid as you well
know we do not have a monopoly on a*h*les, but, alas, we do have generous
and seemingly inexahustible supply

Tom

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Jan 3, 2004, 11:31:41 PM1/3/04
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Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:

Dorty buggers those doctors!!

Tom


Tom

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Jan 3, 2004, 11:37:19 PM1/3/04
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mcdgi wrote:

I think he's only pullin our leg actually. Same for me - I have nothing against
the Welsh and as for the Jap women - they seem to be as kinky as hell if you
believe what you see on the net! (but I am sure that is untrue!...I mean the
rope stuff...)

Tom


Helen Ramsay

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Jan 4, 2004, 12:54:35 AM1/4/04
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"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawi...@hotmail.com> wrote
> "Helen Ramsay" <r...@hotmail.com> wrote

> > "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawi...@hotmail.com> wrote
> > > "Alan Hardie" <axha...@clara.co.uk> wrote
> >
> > > > Why couldn't they have 10 vibrators and one battery?
> > > >
> > > Seems reasonable.
> > > The first vibrator was steam-powered.
> > > It was used by doctors in the treatment of 'hysteria' in women.
> > > The method was to induce an [hysterical paroxysm] following
> > > which the patient apparently felt much better - for a while.
> >
> > Jaysus! The things you learn on scs!
>
> Here's a picture of it - note that the legs of the table are bolted to
the
> floor.
>
> http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/~delmare/images/manipulator.jpg

Holy mackerel Andy! I'm glad I lived a century after that piece of
equipment was in use! Not that I'm the hysterical type mind you :) Thanks,
I think!

Helen Ramsay

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Jan 4, 2004, 12:55:47 AM1/4/04
to
"Tom" <some...@nOpam.com> wrote
> Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:

> > Seems reasonable.
> > The first vibrator was steam-powered.
> > It was used by doctors in the treatment of 'hysteria' in women.
> > The method was to induce a 'mental apoplexism' following which the
patient
> > apparently felt much better - for a while.
>

> Dorty buggers those doctors!!

Sadistic b*stards mair like!

Helen Ramsay

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Jan 4, 2004, 12:58:19 AM1/4/04
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"MatthewOutland" <matthewo...@yahoo.com> wrote

'Scuse me Matthew. He's no *nglish. Since he can be very undiplomatic at
times I refuse to tell you his nationality on the grounds that it might
incriminate me:)

Helen Ramsay

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Jan 4, 2004, 1:00:50 AM1/4/04
to
"Michael Cash" <bugg...@fake.com> wrote
> mtfe...@netMAPSONscape.net wrote

> >In fj.life.in-japan Michael Cash <bugg...@fake.com> wrote:
> >>mtfe...@netMAPSONscape.net wrote

> >>>> Aren't you Whyte-Settlars the ones who killed all the Indians?
> >>>
> >>>They killed all of us???
> >
> >> Sure. Think back to the Indians who were around in the bad ole
> >> Whyte-Settlar days. How many of them are alive?
> >
> >Well, there's me, my mom, kids, sisters (and their kids)...
>
> Nope. Not a one of you was at Plymouth Rock to meet the boat. Those
> Indians are dead. The Whyte-Settlars came, and none of those Indians
> are here. Therefore the Whyte-Settlars killed them all. E pluribus
> unum, quid pro quo, ipso facto, hybiscus carborundum, et cetera et
> cetera. It's really all quite clear.

Jeesh! You forgot Jings, crivvens, a help ma boab!

Helen Ramsay

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Jan 4, 2004, 1:03:18 AM1/4/04
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"mcdgi" <nos...@yahoo.com> wrote

Och don't be a such party-pooper "mcdgi". We Scots thrive on a hearty
supply of trolls:) Keeps the old brains ticking over.

Helen Ramsay

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Jan 4, 2004, 1:05:53 AM1/4/04
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"Tom" <some...@nOpam.com> wrote

I'm a frayed knot Tam.

Cheers, Helen
hramsay at cogeco dot ca

BTW, will you be in Stirling in June? I'm looking forward to it, but if
you're going to be there, that will truly be the icing on the proverbial
cake!


mummu...@cts.com

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Jan 4, 2004, 1:29:53 AM1/4/04
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In soc.culture.british Kingsley Matthews <toomuchspam.ki...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> On 2 Jan 2004 23:13:58 -0800, matthewo...@yahoo.com
> (MatthewOutland) wrote:

>>Is it because we have freeedom and you brits are a bunch of
>>totalitarian bullies?
>>
>>
>>Is it becasue we're big and british are short and ugly?
>>
>>
>>
>>Is it because we're stronger than you?
>>
>>

>>If you can get past these, and still ahte america, I would like a


>>detailed explanation as to why you dislike american culture

> There's no such thing as american culture, therefore nothing to hate.

I see you are still the same stupid great arse you always were,
Matthews.

Max

Michael Cash

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Jan 4, 2004, 1:58:28 AM1/4/04
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On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 11:52:25 +1300, Tom <some...@nOpam.com> brought

down from the Mount tablets inscribed:

>
>


>MatthewOutland wrote:
>
>> Is it because we have freeedom and you brits are a bunch of
>> totalitarian bullies?
>>
>> Is it becasue we're big and british are short and ugly?
>>
>> Is it because we're stronger than you?
>>
>> If you can get past these, and still ahte america, I would like a
>> detailed explanation as to why you dislike american culture
>
>Well I for one don't hate all Mercan culture - only some of it. I like
>Star-Trek for instance and the Simpsons but hate Hamburgers and
>McDonalds. It is probably the arrogance of the US assuming they are the
>freeest country on the planet when more likely the opposite is true.

Yes, more likely the opposite is true. Everyone knows the North
Koreans (ferexample) have a much better thing going.

Fabian

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Jan 4, 2004, 1:36:23 AM1/4/04
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Helen Ramsay hi kitbet:

>> Here's a picture of it - note that the legs of the table are bolted
>> to the floor.
>>
>> http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/~delmare/images/manipulator.jpg
>
> Holy mackerel Andy! I'm glad I lived a century after that piece of
> equipment was in use! Not that I'm the hysterical type mind you :)
> Thanks, I think!

I think just seing that would put any modern woman into hysterics.


--
--
Fabian
Visit my website often and for long periods!
http://www.lajzar.co.uk

Fabian

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Jan 4, 2004, 1:37:58 AM1/4/04
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Michael Cash hu kiteb:

> On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 10:02:45 +1300, "Adam Whyte-Settlar"
> <grawi...@hotmail.com> brought down from the Mount tablets
> inscribed:
>
>>
>> "Duke of URL" <macbenahATkdsiDOTnet> wrote in message
>> news:vvdmkdh...@corp.supernews.com...
>>> Envy - they still long for the days when Britain was really
>>> important and had an Empire. It aggravates them that we have the
>>> freedom, prosperity and living conditions they don't.
>>
>> I don't think there is much of a gap re 'living conditions' these
>> days, but your much vaunted 'freedom' is largely illusary.
>> You are perfectly free to do and think exactly what your government
>> allows. Not that the UK is all that much better but it *is* better.
>> A W-S
>> PS - did you know it is illegal for a woman in Texas to own more
>> than five vibrators for example?
>> What's all that about?
>
> Illegal to sell them in Alabama at all.

Proof that teh British are freer:

One little known English law is that it is quite legal to shoot any
Scottish man with a bow and arrow found within sight of the city walls
of York after dark.

I don't think the USA has such a law.

Fabian

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Jan 4, 2004, 2:25:24 AM1/4/04
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Michael Cash hu kiteb:

> Yes, more likely the opposite is true. Everyone knows the North
> Koreans (ferexample) have a much better thing going.

In North Korea, you are free to criticise the PotUS anywhere without
restriction. Freedom of speech in this field does not exist in today's
USA. Whetehr this means Korea has a better thing going or not, I leave
an an exercise for the trained cynic.

Michael Cash

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On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 15:37:58 +0900, "Fabian" <laj...@hotmail.com>

brought down from the Mount tablets inscribed:

>Michael Cash hu kiteb:
>
>> On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 10:02:45 +1300, "Adam Whyte-Settlar"
>> <grawi...@hotmail.com> brought down from the Mount tablets
>> inscribed:
>>
>>>
>>> "Duke of URL" <macbenahATkdsiDOTnet> wrote in message
>>> news:vvdmkdh...@corp.supernews.com...
>>>> Envy - they still long for the days when Britain was really
>>>> important and had an Empire. It aggravates them that we have the
>>>> freedom, prosperity and living conditions they don't.
>>>
>>> I don't think there is much of a gap re 'living conditions' these
>>> days, but your much vaunted 'freedom' is largely illusary.
>>> You are perfectly free to do and think exactly what your government
>>> allows. Not that the UK is all that much better but it *is* better.
>>> A W-S
>>> PS - did you know it is illegal for a woman in Texas to own more
>>> than five vibrators for example?
>>> What's all that about?
>>
>> Illegal to sell them in Alabama at all.
>
>Proof that teh British are freer:
>
>One little known English law is that it is quite legal to shoot any
>Scottish man with a bow and arrow found within sight of the city walls
>of York after dark.
>
>I don't think the USA has such a law.

Nah, we only get to shoot-n-kill home intruders.

Adam Whyte-Settlar

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"Michael Cash" <bugg...@fake.com> wrote in message
news:ku6fvv0qb9tot0drd...@4ax.com...

> On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 00:08:07 +0000 (UTC), mtfe...@netMAPSONscape.net
> brought down from the Mount tablets inscribed:
>
> >In fj.life.in-japan Michael Cash <bugg...@fake.com> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 15:30:52 +0000 (UTC), mtfe...@netMAPSONscape.net
> >> brought down from the Mount tablets inscribed:
> >
> >>>> Aren't you Whyte-Settlars the ones who killed all the Indians?
> >>>
> >>>They killed all of us???
> >
> >> Sure. Think back to the Indians who were around in the bad ole
> >> Whyte-Settlar days. How many of them are alive?
> >
> >Well, there's me, my mom, kids, sisters (and their kids)...
>
> Nope. Not a one of you was at Plymouth Rock to meet the boat. Those
> Indians are dead. The Whyte-Settlars came, and none of those Indians
> are here. Therefore the Whyte-Settlars killed them all.

Oh - *those* Indians.
A W-S


Adam Whyte-Settlar

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Jan 4, 2004, 5:41:14 AM1/4/04
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"Fabian" <laj...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Helen Ramsay hi kitbet:
>
> >> Here's a picture of it - note that the legs of the table are bolted
> >> to the floor.
> >>
> >> http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/~delmare/images/manipulator.jpg
> >
> > Holy mackerel Andy! I'm glad I lived a century after that piece of
> > equipment was in use! Not that I'm the hysterical type mind you :)
> > Thanks, I think!
>
> I think just seeing that would put any modern woman into hysterics.

They came as a great relief to the doctors of the day.
In the mid-nineteenth century there was a positive epidemic of 'hysteria'
amongst middle and upper class women with almost 70% of women
Among the symptoms were 'irritability' 'persistent erotic fantasy' and
'excessive vaginal lubrication'.
Prior to the invention of machines such as the above the treatment had to be
administered er... by hand, as it were.
Some doctors complained that it could take 'up to an hour' to produce the
desired 'crisis of fever' which thus enabled the unfortunate victim some
respite from her symptoms.
Unfortunately 'hysteria' was diagnosed as chronic and incurable and patients
would be forced to return often for further treatment sessions.
[I'm not making this up]
The advent of the steam-powered mechanised treatment beds proved a boon to
the doctors as they could now treat a patient every 10 minutes or so and
therefore greatly increase their turnover and revenues. The machines were
not available to the general public.
Some went so far as to have multiple treatment rooms with a row of up to
five patients being treated, conveyor belt style, in a small hospital ward.
(I still struggle with that fearsome image)
It being the case that middle and upper class Victorian era women were not
deemed to be sexual beings by the arch-patriarchal society - the idea that
the treatment was in any way sexual apparently didn't occur to the (male
middle and upper class ) doctors.
(Well so all the sources say)
It wasn't until the early 20th century when the first portable electrically
powered versions (still enormous and resembling meat grinders by the way)
went on public sale and began to feature in the first pornographic films
that the penny seems to have dropped.
The electric vibrator was only the fifth household, er... tool, to be
electrified - it came after the toaster but before the vacuum-cleaner. Those
Victorian gals certainly had their priorities sorted. They were advertised
in needlecraft magazines primarily.
Between 1910 and 1920 the medical profession quietly dropped the treatment
from their repertoire, though diagnosis under the rubric of 'hysteria' was
not outlawed in Scotland until 1952.

So now you know.

--
The adorable Adam Whyte-Settlar
- destined to be forever in the minority


Adam Whyte-Settlar

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Jan 4, 2004, 5:46:59 AM1/4/04
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"Michael Cash" <bugg...@fake.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 10:02:45 +1300, "Adam Whyte-Settlar"
> <grawi...@hotmail.com> brought down from the Mount tablets
> inscribed:
>
> >
> >"Duke of URL" <macbenahATkdsiDOTnet> wrote in message
> >news:vvdmkdh...@corp.supernews.com...
> >> Envy - they still long for the days when Britain was really important
> >> and had an Empire. It aggravates them that we have the freedom,
> >> prosperity and living conditions they don't.
> >
> >I don't think there is much of a gap re 'living conditions' these days,
but
> >your much vaunted 'freedom' is largely illusary.
> >You are perfectly free to do and think exactly what your government
allows.
> >Not that the UK is all that much better but it *is* better.
> >A W-S
> >PS - did you know it is illegal for a woman in Texas to own more than
five
> >vibrators for example?
> >What's all that about?
>
> Illegal to sell them in Alabama at all.

Ah! I was meaning to ask about that - I take it that law was indeed passed
then?
I heard about it's progress a few years ago but it was being challenged by
various groups at the time.
I thought it rather ironic that the people pressing for them to be made
illegal called themselves ' The People's Council For Civil Liberties' or
something like that.
IIRC several other states were also going the same way?
A W-S

Adam Whyte-Settlar

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Jan 4, 2004, 5:54:39 AM1/4/04
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"mcdgi" <nos...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> <SNIP>, and still ahte america, I would like a
> > detailed explanation as to why you dislike american culture
>
> As an American, even I find your post troll-like, offensive, displays
> incredible ignorance, and accomplishes nothing to strengthen ties with one
> of our most important and best friends.

Nah - don't worry about it.
He's too stupid to be a real troll - real trolls you don't notice.
No-one in this group takes him seriously anyway - those who haven't bothered
to kill-file him yet.

> All you do with such a post is feed
> and confirm the worst they think about us.

Hey! We all LOVE you guys!
: )
A W-S


nigel. carron

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Jan 4, 2004, 7:39:27 AM1/4/04
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In message <3FF747A9...@nOpam.com>, Tom <some...@nOpam.com>
writes

>Well I for one don't hate all Mercan culture - only some of it. I like
>Star-Trek for instance and the Simpsons but hate Hamburgers and
>McDonalds. It is probably the arrogance of the US assuming they are the
>freeest country on the planet when more likely the opposite is true.
>Having said that, there are many things I dislike about Scotland, but
>don't get me started on the Welsh..!!
>As for the Japanese...

I was pleased when McDonalds opened a branch in Peterhead..

Almost as good as a Burgerking burger..


--
njc AKA m...@baybus.co.uk (Fastpay, Paypal & nochex e-mail)

nigel. carron

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Jan 4, 2004, 7:36:25 AM1/4/04
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In message <bt8em1$450b5$2...@ID-174912.news.uni-berlin.de>, Fabian
<laj...@hotmail.com> writes

>I think just seing that would put any modern woman into hysterics.

Maybe more comfortable than perching on the washing machine on spin
cycle..

Michael Cash

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Jan 4, 2004, 9:30:15 AM1/4/04
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On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 23:12:14 +1300, "Adam Whyte-Settlar"
<grawi...@hotmail.com> brought down from the Mount tablets
inscribed:

>
>"Michael Cash" <bugg...@fake.com> wrote in message
>news:ku6fvv0qb9tot0drd...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 00:08:07 +0000 (UTC), mtfe...@netMAPSONscape.net
>> brought down from the Mount tablets inscribed:
>>
>> >In fj.life.in-japan Michael Cash <bugg...@fake.com> wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 15:30:52 +0000 (UTC), mtfe...@netMAPSONscape.net
>> >> brought down from the Mount tablets inscribed:
>> >
>> >>>> Aren't you Whyte-Settlars the ones who killed all the Indians?
>> >>>
>> >>>They killed all of us???
>> >
>> >> Sure. Think back to the Indians who were around in the bad ole
>> >> Whyte-Settlar days. How many of them are alive?
>> >
>> >Well, there's me, my mom, kids, sisters (and their kids)...
>>
>> Nope. Not a one of you was at Plymouth Rock to meet the boat. Those
>> Indians are dead. The Whyte-Settlars came, and none of those Indians
>> are here. Therefore the Whyte-Settlars killed them all.
>
>Oh - *those* Indians.

Not that the other kind got one whole hell of a lot better deal from
Whyte-Folkes arriving in ships from Jolly Old England way back when.

Madra Dubh

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Jan 4, 2004, 9:33:12 AM1/4/04
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"Michael Cash" <bugg...@fake.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 20:11:58 GMT, "Madra Dubh"
> <cca...@worldnet.att.net> brought down from the Mount tablets

> inscribed:
>
> >
> >"Michael Cash" <bugg...@fake.com> wrote in message
> >news:vc1evvsaddgs53q0j...@4ax.com...
> >> On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 11:17:36 -0600, "Duke of URL"
> >> <macbenahATkdsiDOTnet> brought down from the Mount tablets inscribed:
> >>
> >> >In news:pcqdvvgms6of0p8m0...@4ax.com,
> >> >Michael Cash <bugg...@fake.com> radiated into the WorldWideWait:
> >> >> On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 13:38:03 GMT, "Madra Dubh"
> >> >> <cca...@worldnet.att.net> brought down from the Mount tablets

> >> >> inscribed:
> >> >>> "Michael Cash" <bugg...@fake.com> wrote in message
> >> >>> news:420dvv0ir4f2v8bpa...@4ax.com...
> >> >>>> On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 20:41:46 +1300, "Adam Whyte-Settlar"

> >> >>>> <grawi...@hotmail.com> brought down from the Mount tablets
> >> >>>> inscribed:
> >> >>>>> "MatthewOutland" <matthewo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >>>>> news:52210046.04010...@posting.google.com...

> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Is it because we have freeedom
> >> >
> >> >>>>> Sometimes it's your sad delusions which simultaneously gall and
> >> >>>>> amuse us, but mostly it's because people who think they know
> >> >>>>> everything irritate those of us who do.
> >> >>>>> A W-S

> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Aren't you Whyte-Settlars the ones who killed all the Indians?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Well, he had a shot or two at me but so far hasn't succeeded.
> >> >>
> >> >> No fair ducking and dodging. Stand up straight, now.
> >> >
> >> >He can't right now - Madra is working on his Skulking Merit Badge.
> >>
> >> Kewl! We have a new playmate over here in fj.life.in-japan (forgive me
> >> for not knowing what are of this crosspost fun house you're coming
> >> from) who through personal example is schooling us in the finer points
> >> of Whiny-Assed Moping (with a minor in
> >> I'm-Just-A-Wee-Bit-Superior-To-Thee). We're learning loads.
> >
> >Are you in Japan, Michael?
> >Anata no wa, doko desuka?
>
> Where is my what? Whatever it is, I sincerely hope it is firmly
> attached to me.
>
Not to worry.
Stay out of soc.culture.irish and you should be able to leave with all you
brought in.
And still firmly attached.


Michael Cash

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Jan 4, 2004, 9:33:41 AM1/4/04
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On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 23:46:59 +1300, "Adam Whyte-Settlar"

Last I heard it had passed. I don't know anything about the results of
any legal challenges. My limited understanding of Alabama
jurisprudence is that one way they forestall challenges to acts of the
legislature being found to violate the state constitution is to
enshrine practically everything in an amendment to the state
constitution. When I heard the news report covering this, several
years ago, their constitution had well over 700 amendments. Not
shabby when you consider that they had started over from scratch a
time or two since the WNA ended.

Madra Dubh

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Jan 4, 2004, 9:34:39 AM1/4/04
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"Duke of URL" <macbenahATkdsiDOTnet> wrote in message
news:vveavlj...@corp.supernews.com...
> In news:QnFJb.590352$0v4.23...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net,
> Madra Dubh <cca...@worldnet.att.net> radiated into the WorldWideWait:

> > "Duke of URL" <macbenahATkdsiDOTnet> wrote in message
> > news:vvdmkdh...@corp.supernews.com...
>
> >> Envy - they still long for the days when Britain was really
> >> important and had an Empire. It aggravates them that we have the
> >> freedom, prosperity and living conditions they don't.
> >>
> > Well, Mose, that tore it. They'll not speak to us for a week now.
>
> I know, I know, but it was so EASY... I just couldn't resist it.
>
Yes but the old dears are so sensitive about the former days of glory!!
;=)

Madra Dubh

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Jan 4, 2004, 9:35:57 AM1/4/04
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<mtfe...@netMAPSONscape.net> wrote in message
news:bt7lp5$4n4$3...@news.Stanford.EDU...
> In fj.life.in-japan Madra Dubh <cca...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
> > <mtfe...@netMAPSONscape.net> wrote in message

>
> >> > Aren't you Whyte-Settlars the ones who killed all the Indians?
> >>
> >> They kille all of us???
>
> > Nah, we're still hide out in the woods..............waiting.
>
> I hid in the woods in Wisconsin when I was a kid. Now, I have a house
> in San Francisco; much more comfortable.

Yes well us First People once had houses as well.
Then all you Europeans came, shot us and the kids, and took our homes.
It's been the woods ever since.


Madra Dubh

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Jan 4, 2004, 9:37:39 AM1/4/04
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"Alan Hardie" <axha...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
news:p2gevv0f69f4nm1ji...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 21:12:49 GMT, rus...@concentric.net (MacHamish)
> wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 10:02:45 +1300, "Adam Whyte-Settlar"
> >>PS - did you know it is illegal for a woman in Texas to own more than
five
> >>vibrators for example?
> >>What's all that about?
> >
> >It has to do with the legal and proper disposal of batteries. The city
> >dumps down there in Texas were filling up with the damn things, and they
> >were leaking noxious chemicals into the water table. Next question.
>
> Okey doke.
>
> Why couldn't they have 10 vibrators and one battery?

Because only one of the ten would work at any one time.
And to answer your next question, there are many more pleasure points than
one.


Madra Dubh

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Jan 4, 2004, 9:38:52 AM1/4/04
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"Helen Ramsay" <r...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawi...@hotmail.com> wrote
> > "Alan Hardie" <axha...@clara.co.uk> wrote
>
> > > Why couldn't they have 10 vibrators and one battery?
> > >
> > Seems reasonable.
> > The first vibrator was steam-powered.
> > It was used by doctors in the treatment of 'hysteria' in women.
> > The method was to induce a 'mental apoplexism' following which the
> patient
> > apparently felt much better - for a while.
>
> Jaysus! The things you learn on scs!
>
A steam powered vibrator!!!!!!!!!!
It boggles the mind.
<Toot, toot>


SammyM

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Jan 4, 2004, 10:04:07 AM1/4/04
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"Madra Dubh" wrote :-

I'd never have learnt things like this on SCI !!

SammyM

Duke of URL

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Jan 4, 2004, 10:32:12 AM1/4/04
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In news:3wVJb.279037$Ec1.9...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net,

Madra Dubh <cca...@worldnet.att.net> radiated into the WorldWideWait:
> "Duke of URL" <macbenahATkdsiDOTnet> wrote in message
> news:vveavlj...@corp.supernews.com...
>> In
>> news:QnFJb.590352$0v4.23...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net,
>> Madra Dubh <cca...@worldnet.att.net> radiated into the
>> WorldWideWait:
>>> "Duke of URL" <macbenahATkdsiDOTnet> wrote in message
>>> news:vvdmkdh...@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>>>> Envy - they still long for the days when Britain was really
>>>> important and had an Empire. It aggravates them that we have the
>>>> freedom, prosperity and living conditions they don't.
>>>>
>>> Well, Mose, that tore it. They'll not speak to us for a week now.
>>
>> I know, I know, but it was so EASY... I just couldn't resist it.
>>
> Yes but the old dears are so sensitive about the former days of
> glory!! ;=)

Oh, they'll recover from the vapors after they have a refreshing "tea"
of heavily-diluted Earl Grey and cucumber sandwiches with the crusts
cut off.
BTW: Just how did we end up with fj.life.in-japan in here?


Duke of URL

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Jan 4, 2004, 10:32:59 AM1/4/04
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In news:hxVJb.279044$Ec1.9...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net,

Madra Dubh <cca...@worldnet.att.net> radiated into the WorldWideWait:

Mud-plastered birchbark teepees do NOT qualify as "houses".


Duke of URL

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Jan 4, 2004, 10:34:14 AM1/4/04
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In news:bt9a17$4ih3i$1...@ID-216413.news.uni-berlin.de,
SammyM <Sam...@world.com> radiated into the WorldWideWait:

Well, of COURSE not - the Ersh still don't know about s*x.

Rick

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Jan 4, 2004, 10:47:49 AM1/4/04
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Duke of URL wrote:

Home is where you hang your hat...
Oh, wait! We didn't have hats either.
Never mind. ~(:-0


Michael Cash

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Jan 4, 2004, 10:46:55 AM1/4/04
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On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 14:33:12 GMT, "Madra Dubh"

We've got a double-deported Irishman here in fj.life.in-japan, so I
can well imagine. Our guy was first thrown down amongst the platypus
molesters in Austria. After a while they wised up and tossed his ass
out. Japan has him now. Lucky us. I've always had the good sense not
to get within arm's reach of him myself.

Junzibel

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Jan 4, 2004, 10:32:44 AM1/4/04
to
I'm British.

I love a lot of American culture. I like a lot more.

Some of my best friiends are American.

Last week I had a fantastic time watching the TV series '24'.

The question in this thread title is misguided.

Some British people don't like some aspects of American culture. That
probably has more to do with their own attitide to life (and indeed to the
way they experience the world) than with America itself.

In other words, those people are miserable, complaining communist
bastards.

Thank you ladies and gentlemen for your attention.

J

mtfe...@netmapsonscape.net

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Jan 4, 2004, 10:43:52 AM1/4/04
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In fj.life.in-japan Fabian <laj...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Michael Cash hu kiteb:

> Proof that teh British are freer:

> One little known English law is that it is quite legal to shoot any
> Scottish man with a bow and arrow found within sight of the city walls
> of York after dark.

> I don't think the USA has such a law.

Nonsense. I am certain the US government doesn't care a fig if you shoot
a Scottish man with a bow and arrow found within sight of the city walls
of York after dark.

In fact, I'm sure it's encouraged by certain political sects.

Mike

mtfe...@netmapsonscape.net

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Jan 4, 2004, 10:40:33 AM1/4/04
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In fj.life.in-japan Michael Cash <bugg...@fake.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 00:08:07 +0000 (UTC), mtfe...@netMAPSONscape.net
> brought down from the Mount tablets inscribed:

>>In fj.life.in-japan Michael Cash <bugg...@fake.com> wrote:


>>> On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 15:30:52 +0000 (UTC), mtfe...@netMAPSONscape.net

>>> brought down from the Mount tablets inscribed:
>>

>>>>> Aren't you Whyte-Settlars the ones who killed all the Indians?
>>>>

>>>>They killed all of us???
>>
>>> Sure. Think back to the Indians who were around in the bad ole
>>> Whyte-Settlar days. How many of them are alive?
>>
>>Well, there's me, my mom, kids, sisters (and their kids)...

> Nope. Not a one of you was at Plymouth Rock to meet the boat. Those
> Indians are dead. The Whyte-Settlars came, and none of those Indians

> are here. Therefore the Whyte-Settlars killed them all. E pluribus

OOOOOOOOOH, you wanna talk to great-great-great-(x6)-grandpa! No
problem. Coupla bottles of fire-water, and he'll be dancing around your
campfire.

> unum, quid pro quo, ipso facto, hybiscus carborundum, et cetera et
> cetera. It's really all quite clear.
>>
>>I can come up with some others.
>>
>>> I rest my case.
>>
>>Careful; when you do that, you aren't allowed to post on the thread
>>anymore.

> Had to rest it for a minute, I was pooped. (But not pissed, oh no).

Well, the fire-water will take care of the pissed part.

Mike

Ann Getty

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Jan 4, 2004, 11:07:12 AM1/4/04
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On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 10:34:14 -0500, Duke of URL wrote
(in message <vvgck9...@corp.supernews.com>):

Of course they do, why do you think there are so many of them??? You have to
think this stuff through, Duke.

Ann

Josiah Jenkins

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Jan 4, 2004, 11:17:02 AM1/4/04
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On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 14:38:52 GMT, I read these words from "Madra Dubh"
<cca...@worldnet.att.net> :

http://paipai.free.fr/lyrics.php?ID=164

Not for those aged under 16 or of a prudish nature !!

-- The Despicable Stewart
-- Perfidious Alban
-- http://www.ian-stewart.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk

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