Re: 700+ homes to be added along Olde Scotland Road (The Sentinel)
Adam Whyte-Settlar
"The Kat" <ne...@katxyzkave.net> wrote in message
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> On 05 Jul 2008 01:07:29 -0500, ad...@ng2000.com wrote:
>
>>
>>http://www.ng2000.com/fw.php?tp=scotland
>>
>>07/05/2008: A Mechanicsburg developer is seeking the go-ahead to start a
>>726-home cluster development on a rural 232-acre tract of land bounded by
>>Olde Scotland Road (Route 696) and Two Turn and White Church roads in
>>Southampton Township, Franklin County.
>>
>
> Of course, that IS in Pennsylvania, USA, and not Scotland.
And old spelt with an 'e' is a modern invention and is unknown in Scotlande.
conwaycaine
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
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No "Ye Olde Shoppes" then?
Adam Whyte-Settlar
"conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>> And old spelt with an 'e' is a modern invention and is unknown in
>> Scotlande.
>
> No "Ye Olde Shoppes" then?
In Scotlande? Scotlande is a place I just made up, twit.
But anywhere in *nglandshire you see that spelling you know the shoppe isn't
authentic as 'Ye' is also a modern invention.
It didn't appear in Englysse until about 1450 and it's all Johan Gutenberg
and William Caxtons fault.
Caxton bought a German printing press from Gutenberg and shipped it to
*nglandshire. Being German it didn't have the symbol for the *nglish 'eth' -
(which, SFAIUI, was the Middle English letter for the 'th' sound) so he used
the 'y' instead which was the nearest symbol to the missing one.
'Ye' never was an *nglish word for 'the'. It still isn't.
There is a similar story attached to the word 'Olde' but I'm damned if I can
remember it and I can't be arsed looking it up.
I'm don't know anything about 'Shoppe' - that could well be a genuine olde
spelling.
By the way - did you notice that big drop in unemployment figures in Oz
released yesterday?
It was just after the item about our near-record trade surplus last month.
deem...@aol.com
> "conwaycaine" <conwayca...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>
> news:kkOck.18979$CC....@bignews9.bellsouth.net...
>
> >> And old spelt with an 'e' is a modern invention and is unknown in
> >> Scotlande.
>
> > No "Ye Olde Shoppes" then?
>
> In Scotlande? Scotlande is a place I just made up, twit.
>
> But anywhere in *nglandshire you see that spelling you know the shoppe isn't
> authentic as 'Ye' is also a modern invention.
> It didn't appear in Englysse until about 1450 and it's all Johan Gutenberg
> and William Caxtons fault.
But 1450 is older than dirt over here......
>
> Caxton bought a German printing press from Gutenberg and shipped it to
> *nglandshire. Being German it didn't have the symbol for the *nglish 'eth' -
> (which, SFAIUI, was the Middle English letter for the 'th' sound) so he used
> the 'y' instead which was the nearest symbol to the missing one.
> 'Ye' never was an *nglish word for 'the'. It still isn't.
> There is a similar story attached to the word 'Olde' but I'm damned if I can
> remember it and I can't be arsed looking it up.
>
> I'm don't know anything about 'Shoppe' - that could well be a genuine olde
> spelling.
In the US, adding an 'e' is done by developers and
owners to make something look sophisticated....shoppe, olde, pointe,
etc. All it does is make it look pretentious.
>
> By the way - did you notice that big drop in unemployment figures in Oz
> released yesterday?
Y'all are going to have to loosen up those immigration
laws.
> It was just after the item about our near-record trade surplus last month.
Hey, somebody has to be running a surplus to balance
out the US deficit.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
<deem...@aol.com> wrote in message
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'Pretentious' is being a bit kind IMO.
'Bunch of wankers' is the Scottish equivalent.
I make a point of denying any olde worlde establishment any part of my
'sundry-entertainments' budget.
They have deprived themselves of at least 20 quid (about 30,000 dollars US)
over that last decades - and serve them right.
>
> By the way - did you notice that big drop in unemployment figures in Oz
> released yesterday?
Y'all are going to have to loosen up those immigration
laws.
Which is precisely what the Rudd government is proposing as it happens.
The horror element is that some of them might not be seasoned European
criminals.
> It was just after the item about our near-record trade surplus last month.
Hey, somebody has to be running a surplus to balance
out the US deficit.
The entire planet in fact.
deem...@aol.com
>
> Y'all are going to have to loosen up those immigration
> laws.
>
> Which is precisely what the Rudd government is proposing as it happens.
> The horror element is that some of them might not be seasoned European
> criminals.
You mean the problem is serious enough to consider
letting in all those browns and yellers?
>
> > It was just after the item about our near-record trade surplus last month.
>
> Hey, somebody has to be running a surplus to balance
> out the US deficit.
>
> The entire planet in fact.
It's part of W's plan to elevate the standard of
living around the globe. He wants to be remembered as a humanitarian.
I hear he's going to sign on with Habitat for Humanity early next
year.
conwaycaine
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
>
> "conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:kkOck.18979$CC....@bignews9.bellsouth.net...
>
>>> And old spelt with an 'e' is a modern invention and is unknown in
>>> Scotlande.
>>
>> No "Ye Olde Shoppes" then?
>
> In Scotlande? Scotlande is a place I just made up, twit.
Next you will tell me Brigadoon doesn't exist.
> But anywhere in *nglandshire you see that spelling you know the shoppe
> isn't authentic as 'Ye' is also a modern invention.
> It didn't appear in Englysse until about 1450 and it's all Johan Gutenberg
> and William Caxtons fault.
*****
If you had ever read your King James bible, you would find it replete with
"Ye"'s, oh ye of little faith.
> Caxton bought a German printing press from Gutenberg and shipped it to
> *nglandshire. Being German it didn't have the symbol for the *nglish
> 'eth' - (which, SFAIUI, was the Middle English letter for the 'th' sound)
> so he used the 'y' instead which was the nearest symbol to the missing
> one.
> 'Ye' never was an *nglish word for 'the'. It still isn't.
******
A fact extracted by the ever ready AWS research facility.
> There is a similar story attached to the word 'Olde' but I'm damned if I
> can remember it and I can't be arsed looking it up.
> I'm don't know anything about 'Shoppe' - that could well be a genuine olde
> spelling.
Or all this could be a result of the English propensity to drop syllables,
especially ending syllables.
Consider "Closed" which was once pronounced "Close-ed".
> By the way - did you notice that big drop in unemployment figures in Oz
> released yesterday?
> It was just after the item about our near-record trade surplus last month.
*****
Of course unemployment went down,
It's sheep shearing time down south.
conwaycaine
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
The Aussies are sending for their families in the olde country?
S Viemeister
> "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
>> But anywhere in *nglandshire you see that spelling you know the shoppe
>> isn't authentic as 'Ye' is also a modern invention.
>> It didn't appear in Englysse until about 1450 and it's all Johan Gutenberg
>> and William Caxtons fault.
>
>
> If you had ever read your King James bible, you would find it replete with
> "Ye"'s, oh ye of little faith.
>
Conway - have you looked at the date on your King James bible? _Well_
after 1450. Besides, (as you well know!) 'ye' is a plural pronoun -
rather like the southern 'y'all'.......
Look up the history of the letters 'thorn'(ž) and 'eth'(š).
Adam Whyte-Settlar
<deem...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
> Y'all are going to have to loosen up those immigration
> laws.
>
> Which is precisely what the Rudd government is proposing as it happens.
> The horror element is that some of them might not be seasoned European
> criminals.
You mean the problem is serious enough to consider
letting in all those browns and yellers?
Oh yes.
It's pretty desperate actually - in the cities even check-out clerks are
being employed.
It's mainly 'yeller scum' - or to be correct; 'slant-eyed bastards' - since
Oz went all PC a few years back.
Even browns (aka 'Asian scum' (?)) are OK so long as they are qualified to
wash bedpans and perform open-heart surgery and suchlike chores - I don't
think Australians have heard of niggers yet.
But, apparently, what we really need are even higher interest rates and
people who can survive 48C whilst loading unfeasibly large amounts of Oz
onto ships and steering them in the general direction of Chinese bankers for
a dollar a day.
>
> > It was just after the item about our near-record trade surplus last
> > month.
>
> Hey, somebody has to be running a surplus to balance
> out the US deficit.
>
> The entire planet in fact.
It's part of W's plan to elevate the standard of
living around the globe. He wants to be remembered as a humanitarian.
I hear he's going to sign on with Habitat for Humanity early next
year.
That's nice - he will be able to push Carter's wheelchair around Aceh.
I just don't know how he will manage to make the time, what with him being a
CEO of one of those companies he gave no-bid contracts to and all.
He's truly an inspiration.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
>
> "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
> news:LfCdnWigarB...@westnet.com.au...
>>
>> "conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:kkOck.18979$CC....@bignews9.bellsouth.net...
>>
>>>> And old spelt with an 'e' is a modern invention and is unknown in
>>>> Scotlande.
>>>
>>> No "Ye Olde Shoppes" then?
>>
>> In Scotlande? Scotlande is a place I just made up, twit.
> ******
>
> Next you will tell me Brigadoon doesn't exist.
>
>> But anywhere in *nglandshire you see that spelling you know the shoppe
>> isn't authentic as 'Ye' is also a modern invention.
>> It didn't appear in Englysse until about 1450 and it's all Johan
>> Gutenberg and William Caxtons fault.
> *****
>
> If you had ever read your King James bible, you would find it replete with
> "Ye"'s, oh ye of little faith.
'Ye' as the plural informal intimate of 'You' (As in thee, thine, thou,
etc) - yes.
'Ye' as the anticedent of 'The' - no.
As even you must have been taught; the King James version of The Bible (only
one of 18 different and contradictary versions currently in print) was
written in a form of the English language that was already ancient at the
time of writing.
It was a literary trick cynically devised and intended to lend the gravitas
of history to a laughable fantasy.
And to be fair, on the whole the scheme worked rather well on the ignorant
God-fearing illiterate peasantry of the time and later on gullible 21st
century Americans.
>> Caxton bought a German printing press from Gutenberg and shipped it to
>> *nglandshire. Being German it didn't have the symbol for the *nglish
>> 'eth' - (which, SFAIUI, was the Middle English letter for the 'th' sound)
>> so he used the 'y' instead which was the nearest symbol to the missing
>> one.
>> 'Ye' never was an *nglish word for 'the'. It still isn't.
> ******
>
> A fact extracted by the ever ready AWS research facility.
Check it out yourself. I was interested in Caxton and have posted heaps of
stuff about him before.
The fonts Caxton used for 'The death of Arthur' and 'The History of Raynard
the Fox' were all in Geramn 'gothic' type.
As you must know by now - if you really want me to quote chapter and verse I
can.
What the **** do YOU know about 15th century English typesetting anyway?
deem...@aol.com
> <deemsb...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:64ac3f81-f8b6-42e6...@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Y'all are going to have to loosen up those immigration
> > laws.
>
> > Which is precisely what the Rudd government is proposing as it happens.
> > The horror element is that some of them might not be seasoned European
> > criminals.
>
> You mean the problem is serious enough to consider
> letting in all those browns and yellers?
>
> Oh yes.
> It's pretty desperate actually - in the cities even check-out clerks are
> being employed.
> It's mainly 'yeller scum' - or to be correct; 'slant-eyed bastards' - since
> Oz went all PC a few years back.
> Even browns (aka 'Asian scum' (?))
West Asians......Indians, Pakis, Palestinians, etc.
are OK so long as they are qualified to
> wash bedpans and perform open-heart surgery and suchlike chores - I don't
> think Australians have heard of niggers yet.
Once they kill off all the Abos, they can import some
from Africa.
> But, apparently, what we really need are even higher interest rates and
> people who can survive 48C whilst loading unfeasibly large amounts of Oz
> onto ships and steering them in the general direction of Chinese bankers for
> a dollar a day.
Aha! They need Mexicans!
>
>
>
> > > It was just after the item about our near-record trade surplus last
> > > month.
>
> > Hey, somebody has to be running a surplus to balance
> > out the US deficit.
>
> > The entire planet in fact.
>
> It's part of W's plan to elevate the standard of
> living around the globe. He wants to be remembered as a humanitarian.
> I hear he's going to sign on with Habitat for Humanity early next
> year.
>
> That's nice - he will be able to push Carter's wheelchair around Aceh.
> I just don't know how he will manage to make the time, what with him being a
> CEO of one of those companies he gave no-bid contracts to and all.
> He's truly an inspiration.
Just warms the cockles of your heart, don't it? (Whatever
the Hell cockles are)
Adam Whyte-Settlar
"S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
news:6dmntaF...@mid.individual.net...
That's it - 'plural pronoun'.
I couldn't remember what it was called but I knew it had sod all to do with
'the'.
>
> Look up the history of the letters 'thorn'(ž) and 'eth'(š).
>
That's them too! Cool.
I remembered 'eth' for the 'y' (th) but forgot 'thorn' was around at the
time too.
Love your little international phonetic pronounciation symbols by the way -
I had too learn all those to start speaking Spanish - I can't even get my
computer to print italics let alone phonetics.
You realise that all this is way above Conways' head anyway don't you?
S Viemeister
> "S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
>
>>
> That's them too! Cool.
> I remembered 'eth' for the 'y' (th) but forgot 'thorn' was around at the
> time too.
> computer to print italics let alone phonetics.
I had to learn the international phonetic stuff at acting school - I
still have a book full of texts written in different accents.
Cory Bhreckan
> Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:
>> "S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
>>> Look up the history of the letters 'thorn'(ž) and 'eth'(š).
>>>
>> That's them too! Cool.
>> I remembered 'eth' for the 'y' (th) but forgot 'thorn' was around at
>> the time too.
>> Love your little international phonetic pronunciation symbols by the
>> way - I had too learn all those to start speaking Spanish - I can't
>> even get my computer to print italics let alone phonetics.
>
> I had to learn the international phonetic stuff at acting school - I
> still have a book full of texts written in different accents.
Acting school?!? Are you famous?
>
>> You realise that all this is way above Conways' head anyway don't you?
>>
--
"For the stronger we our houses do build,
The less chance we have of being killed." - William Topaz McGonagall
Karl-Heinz Efkemann
> S Viemeister wrote:
>> Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:
>>> "S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
>>>>
>>> That's them too! Cool.
>>> I remembered 'eth' for the 'y' (th) but forgot 'thorn' was around at
>>> the time too.
>>> Love your little international phonetic pronunciation symbols by the
>>> way - I had too learn all those to start speaking Spanish - I can't
>>> even get my computer to print italics let alone phonetics.
>>
>> I had to learn the international phonetic stuff at acting school - I
>> still have a book full of texts written in different accents.
>
> Acting school?!? Are you famous?
--
Gruß,
Karl-Heinz
Cory Bhreckan
> Cory Bhreckan schrieb:
>> S Viemeister wrote:
>>> Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:
>>>> "S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>> That's them too! Cool.
>>>> I remembered 'eth' for the 'y' (th) but forgot 'thorn' was around at
>>>> the time too.
>>>> Love your little international phonetic pronunciation symbols by the
>>>> way - I had too learn all those to start speaking Spanish - I can't
>>>> even get my computer to print italics let alone phonetics.
>>>
>>> I had to learn the international phonetic stuff at acting school - I
>>> still have a book full of texts written in different accents.
>>
>> Acting school?!? Are you famous?
> Certainly, she is known all over the world, you know.
>
Even in Germany?
S Viemeister
> S Viemeister wrote:
>> Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:
>>> "S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
>>>> Look up the history of the letters 'thorn'(ž) and 'eth'(š).
>>>>
>>> That's them too! Cool.
>>> I remembered 'eth' for the 'y' (th) but forgot 'thorn' was around at
>>> the time too.
>>> Love your little international phonetic pronunciation symbols by the
>>> way - I had too learn all those to start speaking Spanish - I can't
>>> even get my computer to print italics let alone phonetics.
>>
>> I had to learn the international phonetic stuff at acting school - I
>> still have a book full of texts written in different accents.
>
> Acting school?!? Are you famous?
>
I decided that making a living was preferable to starving for my art.
S Viemeister
> Cory Bhreckan schrieb:
>> S Viemeister wrote:
>>> Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:
>>>> "S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>> That's them too! Cool.
>>>> I remembered 'eth' for the 'y' (th) but forgot 'thorn' was around at
>>>> the time too.
>>>> Love your little international phonetic pronunciation symbols by the
>>>> way - I had too learn all those to start speaking Spanish - I can't
>>>> even get my computer to print italics let alone phonetics.
>>>
>>> I had to learn the international phonetic stuff at acting school - I
>>> still have a book full of texts written in different accents.
>>
>> Acting school?!? Are you famous?
> Certainly, she is known all over the world, you know.
>
Cory Bhreckan
> Cory Bhreckan wrote:
>> S Viemeister wrote:
>>> Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:
>>>> "S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
>>>>> Look up the history of the letters 'thorn'(ž) and 'eth'(š).
>>>>>
>>>> That's them too! Cool.
>>>> I remembered 'eth' for the 'y' (th) but forgot 'thorn' was around at
>>>> the time too.
>>>> Love your little international phonetic pronunciation symbols by the
>>>> way - I had too learn all those to start speaking Spanish - I can't
>>>> even get my computer to print italics let alone phonetics.
>>>
>>> I had to learn the international phonetic stuff at acting school - I
>>> still have a book full of texts written in different accents.
>>
>> Acting school?!? Are you famous?
>>
> Not at all. If I were, you'd have heard of me...
But I have, you're on internet servers all over the world.
> I decided that making a living was preferable to starving for my art.
I figgered that out too.
>
>
>>>
>>>> You realise that all this is way above Conways' head anyway don't you?
>>>>
>>
>>
Karl-Heinz Efkemann
> Karl-Heinz Efkemann wrote:
>> Cory Bhreckan schrieb:
>>> S Viemeister wrote:
>>>> Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:
>>>>> "S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
>>>>>>
>>>>> That's them too! Cool.
>>>>> I remembered 'eth' for the 'y' (th) but forgot 'thorn' was around
>>>>> at the time too.
>>>>> Love your little international phonetic pronunciation symbols by
>>>>> the way - I had too learn all those to start speaking Spanish - I
>>>>> can't even get my computer to print italics let alone phonetics.
>>>>
>>>> I had to learn the international phonetic stuff at acting school - I
>>>> still have a book full of texts written in different accents.
>>>
>>> Acting school?!? Are you famous?
>> Certainly, she is known all over the world, you know.
>>
>
> Even in Germany?
--
Gruß,
Karl-Heinz
Karl-Heinz Efkemann
> Karl-Heinz Efkemann wrote:
>> Cory Bhreckan schrieb:
>>> S Viemeister wrote:
>>>> Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:
>>>>> "S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
>>>>>>
>>>>> That's them too! Cool.
>>>>> I remembered 'eth' for the 'y' (th) but forgot 'thorn' was around
>>>>> at the time too.
>>>>> Love your little international phonetic pronunciation symbols by
>>>>> the way - I had too learn all those to start speaking Spanish - I
>>>>> can't even get my computer to print italics let alone phonetics.
>>>>
>>>> I had to learn the international phonetic stuff at acting school - I
>>>> still have a book full of texts written in different accents.
>>>
>>> Acting school?!? Are you famous?
>> Certainly, she is known all over the world, you know.
>>
> You know my secret identity?!?
--
Gruß,
Karl-Heinz
Jeffrey Hamilton
"S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
> Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:
>> "S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
>>> Look up the history of the letters 'thorn'(ž) and 'eth'(š).
>>>
>> That's them too! Cool.
>> I remembered 'eth' for the 'y' (th) but forgot 'thorn' was around at the
>> time too.
>> Love your little international phonetic pronunciation symbols by the
>> way - I had too learn all those to start speaking Spanish - I can't even
>> get my computer to print italics let alone phonetics.
>
> I had to learn the international phonetic stuff at acting >school -
That's exactly what this thread needed too, some *drama* !
cheers....Jeff
Josiah Jenkins
<conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
>news:LfCdnWigarB...@westnet.com.au...
>>
>> "conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:kkOck.18979$CC....@bignews9.bellsouth.net...
>>
>>>> And old spelt with an 'e' is a modern invention and is unknown in
>>>> Scotlande.
>>>
>>> No "Ye Olde Shoppes" then?
>>
>> In Scotlande? Scotlande is a place I just made up, twit.
>******
>
>Next you will tell me Brigadoon doesn't exist.
>
>> But anywhere in *nglandshire you see that spelling you know the shoppe
>> isn't authentic as 'Ye' is also a modern invention.
>> It didn't appear in Englysse until about 1450 and it's all Johan Gutenberg
>> and William Caxtons fault.
>*****
>
>If you had ever read your King James bible, you would find it replete with
>"Ye"'s, oh ye of little faith.
Presumably you have a *printed* version ?
And, in view of your advanced years, you may possibly even have the
1611 (first) edition?
Josiah Jenkins
<coryv...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote:
>Karl-Heinz Efkemann wrote:
>> Cory Bhreckan schrieb:
>>> S Viemeister wrote:
>>>> Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:
>>>>> "S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
>>>>>> Look up the history of the letters 'thorn'(ž) and 'eth'(š).
>>>>>>
>>>>> That's them too! Cool.
>>>>> I remembered 'eth' for the 'y' (th) but forgot 'thorn' was around at
>>>>> the time too.
>>>>> Love your little international phonetic pronunciation symbols by the
>>>>> way - I had too learn all those to start speaking Spanish - I can't
>>>>> even get my computer to print italics let alone phonetics.
>>>>
>>>> I had to learn the international phonetic stuff at acting school - I
>>>> still have a book full of texts written in different accents.
>>>
>>> Acting school?!? Are you famous?
>> Certainly, she is known all over the world, you know.
>>
>
>Even in Germany?
Yup !
Frau Isolde Viemeister
(formerly Fraulein Iseult McKay)
Josiah Jenkins
Oops, I just let the cat out of the bag !
Fred J. McCall
:
So you failed because you were insufficiently dedicated to your art?
;-)
I've always wanted to get a casting couch...
"Oh, I didn't get the part because he was a double hyphenate. You
know, Producer-Director-Asshole."
--
"Adrenaline is like exercise, but without the excessive gym fees."
-- Professor Walsh, "Buffy the Vampire Slayer"
Adam Whyte-Settlar
<deem...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> It's mainly 'yeller scum' - or to be correct; 'slant-eyed bastards' -
> since
> Oz went all PC a few years back.
> Even browns (aka 'Asian scum' (?))
West Asians......Indians, Pakis, Palestinians, etc.
One of the first things I discovered upon washing up on the beach near
Auckland was that the word 'Asian' doesn't mean the same thing as it does in
Scotland.
In Scotland 'Asian' tends to refer to Pakis and Indians and anyone else who
just happens to look like them. In Oceania 'Asian' tends to mean Chinese,
Korean, Japanese etc, though it does also include the entire population of
that part of the planet between Shanghai and Istanbull. There is no 'West
Asia' in the Australian language.
Just warms the cockles of your heart, don't it? (Whatever
the Hell cockles are)
They're like Biafran Oysters.
I used to go cockling with my Dad when I was a young lad of about 10 or 11.
It involved grubbing about in the glorious mud at Langston Harbour. It was a
beautifull reedy marshland wilderness of sandbanks and dunes and mudflats
and extraordinary birdlife a couple of miles outside Portsmouth. Anyone
could go and dig up a half bucket of cockles.
My Dad taught me to let them gasp away in said bucket overnight then boil
them alive in a large pot until they detach from their shells, add vinegar
and Robertas your Auntie.
Then in the late 60's came the M27 motorway linking Portsmouth and
Southampton. That was the end of the marshlands and almost every living
thing in it.
Ian Smith
Brigadoon makes an appearance once every 100 years. I believe the next is
due in 2054. One hopes to still be around by then. My Dad was short-
changed at the village shop last time, and would like to resolve the
dispute.
deem...@aol.com
>
> One of the first things I discovered upon washing up on the beach near
> Auckland was that the word 'Asian' doesn't mean the same thing as it does in
> Scotland.
> In Scotland 'Asian' tends to refer to Pakis and Indians and anyone else who
> just happens to look like them. In Oceania 'Asian' tends to mean Chinese,
> Korean, Japanese etc, though it does also include the entire population of
> that part of the planet between Shanghai and Istanbull. There is no 'West
> Asia' in the Australian language.
>
>
That's true in the US, too. Asians are Chinese,
etc......the others are probably considered "Arabs" since quite a few
Americans probably don't realize that the area between the Dardanelles
and Himalayas is Asia, too.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
"Karl-Heinz Efkemann" <KHEfk...@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:6dn6shF...@mid.individual.net...
She's a major celebrity in Australia too.
But then so is Pamela Anderson so perhaps that's not ........
er...........I'll just stop talking now.
>
> --
> Gruß,
> Karl-Heinz
conwaycaine
"S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
Indeed it is plural but old "Home Truth" stated that "Ye" is a modern
invention when clearly it was in use during the 17th century.
In any event, isn't al that a part of the now departed English Familial
tense?
(I quit reading at "interdental fricative")
conwaycaine
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
"interdental fricative" proved that, right enough.
conwaycaine
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
>
> "Karl-Heinz Efkemann" <KHEfk...@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:6dn6shF...@mid.individual.net...
>> Cory Bhreckan schrieb:
>>> Karl-Heinz Efkemann wrote:
>>>> Cory Bhreckan schrieb:
>>>>> S Viemeister wrote:
>>>>>> Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:
>>>>>>> "S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's them too! Cool.
>>>>>>> I remembered 'eth' for the 'y' (th) but forgot 'thorn' was around at
>>>>>>> the time too.
>>>>>>> Love your little international phonetic pronunciation symbols by the
>>>>>>> way - I had too learn all those to start speaking Spanish - I can't
>>>>>>> even get my computer to print italics let alone phonetics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had to learn the international phonetic stuff at acting school - I
>>>>>> still have a book full of texts written in different accents.
>>>>>
>>>>> Acting school?!? Are you famous?
>>>> Certainly, she is known all over the world, you know.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Even in Germany?
>> I know her, I live in Germany...
>
> She's a major celebrity in Australia too.
> But then so is Pamela Anderson so perhaps that's not ........
> er...........I'll just stop talking now.
How long do you people plan on being coy?
conwaycaine
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
You still haven't looked in your King James bible, have you?
conwaycaine
"Josiah Jenkins" <josiah-jenkins@somewhere_else.invalid> wrote in message
news:r28d7411k5h6umjio...@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:12:35 -0400, "conwaycaine"
> <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
>>news:LfCdnWigarB...@westnet.com.au...
>>>
>>> "conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>> news:kkOck.18979$CC....@bignews9.bellsouth.net...
>>>
>>>>> And old spelt with an 'e' is a modern invention and is unknown in
>>>>> Scotlande.
>>>>
>>>> No "Ye Olde Shoppes" then?
>>>
>>> In Scotlande? Scotlande is a place I just made up, twit.
>>******
>>
>>Next you will tell me Brigadoon doesn't exist.
>>
>>> But anywhere in *nglandshire you see that spelling you know the shoppe
>>> isn't authentic as 'Ye' is also a modern invention.
>>> It didn't appear in Englysse until about 1450 and it's all Johan
>>> Gutenberg
>>> and William Caxtons fault.
>>*****
>>
>>If you had ever read your King James bible, you would find it replete with
>>"Ye"'s, oh ye of little faith.
>
> Presumably you have a *printed* version ?
> And, in view of your advanced years, you may possibly even have the
> 1611 (first) edition?
Yes, it was printed.
I thought to buy a hand illuminated version but they were way too expensive.
A needless frivolity, anyway.
You see, dwelling among ye Scots has sensitized me against wasting money.
conwaycaine
"Ian Smith" <ianin...@btinternet.naespam.com> wrote in message
news:48775fbf$0$20031$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com...
> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:12:35 -0400, conwaycaine wrote:
>
>> "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
>>> By the way - did you notice that big drop in unemployment figures in Oz
>>> released yesterday?
>>> It was just after the item about our near-record trade surplus last
>>> month.
>> *****
>>
>> Of course unemployment went down,
>> It's sheep shearing time down south.
>
> Brigadoon makes an appearance once every 100 years. I believe the next is
> due in 2054. One hopes to still be around by then. My Dad was short-
> changed at the village shop last time, and would like to resolve the
> dispute.
I realize "Brigadoon" has set Scottish teeth on edge all over the world but
I really liked the movie.
Cory Bhreckan
> "Karl-Heinz Efkemann" <KHEfk...@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:6dn6shF...@mid.individual.net...
>> Cory Bhreckan schrieb:
>>> Karl-Heinz Efkemann wrote:
>>>> Cory Bhreckan schrieb:
>>>>> S Viemeister wrote:
>>>>>> Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:
>>>>>>> "S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> Look up the history of the letters 'thorn'(ş) and 'eth'(ğ).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's them too! Cool.
>>>>>>> I remembered 'eth' for the 'y' (th) but forgot 'thorn' was around at
>>>>>>> the time too.
>>>>>>> Love your little international phonetic pronunciation symbols by the
>>>>>>> way - I had too learn all those to start speaking Spanish - I can't
>>>>>>> even get my computer to print italics let alone phonetics.
>>>>>> I had to learn the international phonetic stuff at acting school - I
>>>>>> still have a book full of texts written in different accents.
>>>>> Acting school?!? Are you famous?
>>>> Certainly, she is known all over the world, you know.
>>>>
>>> Even in Germany?
>> I know her, I live in Germany...
>
> .I'll just stop talking now.
<Gasp> You heard it first here folks!
>> --
>> Gruß,
>> Karl-Heinz
S Viemeister
> I used to go cockling with my Dad when I was a young lad of about 10 or 11.
> It involved grubbing about in the glorious mud at Langston Harbour. It was a
> beautifull reedy marshland wilderness of sandbanks and dunes and mudflats
> and extraordinary birdlife a couple of miles outside Portsmouth. Anyone
> could go and dig up a half bucket of cockles.
> My Dad taught me to let them gasp away in said bucket overnight then boil
> them alive in a large pot until they detach from their shells, add vinegar
> and Robertas your Auntie.
> Then in the late 60's came the M27 motorway linking Portsmouth and
> Southampton. That was the end of the marshlands and almost every living
> thing in it.
>
>
I used to love going cockling in the Kyle of Tongue - wellies, a rake
and a bucket. One of my uncles ate them raw.....
There are very few cockles in the Kyle now - commercial fishing boats
came in 15-20 years ago, and scraped the bottom.
S Viemeister
> "Karl-Heinz Efkemann" <KHEfk...@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:6dn6shF...@mid.individual.net...
>> Cory Bhreckan schrieb:
>>> Karl-Heinz Efkemann wrote:
>>>> Cory Bhreckan schrieb:
>>>>> S Viemeister wrote:
>>>>>> Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:
>>>>>>> "S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's them too! Cool.
>>>>>>> I remembered 'eth' for the 'y' (th) but forgot 'thorn' was around at
>>>>>>> the time too.
>>>>>>> Love your little international phonetic pronunciation symbols by the
>>>>>>> way - I had too learn all those to start speaking Spanish - I can't
>>>>>>> even get my computer to print italics let alone phonetics.
>>>>>> I had to learn the international phonetic stuff at acting school - I
>>>>>> still have a book full of texts written in different accents.
>>>>> Acting school?!? Are you famous?
>>>> Certainly, she is known all over the world, you know.
>>>>
>>> Even in Germany?
>> I know her, I live in Germany...
>
> She's a major celebrity in Australia too.
> But then so is Pamela Anderson so perhaps that's not ........
> er...........I'll just stop talking now.
>
Good idea.
Cory Bhreckan
> Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:
>> I used to go cockling with my Dad when I was a young lad of about 10
>> or 11. It involved grubbing about in the glorious mud at Langston
>> Harbour. It was a beautifull reedy marshland wilderness of sandbanks
>> and dunes and mudflats and extraordinary birdlife a couple of miles
>> outside Portsmouth. Anyone could go and dig up a half bucket of cockles.
>> My Dad taught me to let them gasp away in said bucket overnight then
>> boil them alive in a large pot until they detach from their shells,
>> add vinegar and Robertas your Auntie.
>> Then in the late 60's came the M27 motorway linking Portsmouth and
>> Southampton. That was the end of the marshlands and almost every
>> living thing in it.
>>
>
> I used to love going cockling in the Kyle of Tongue - wellies, a rake
> and a bucket. One of my uncles ate them raw.....
Bivalves in general are best eaten raw.
> There are very few cockles in the Kyle now - commercial fishing boats
> came in 15-20 years ago, and scraped the bottom.
Jeffrey Hamilton
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
Well sure it was, but you could_now_ get to Portsmouth from Southamptom much
quicker, so it was all good in the end.
Mind you, I gather some cockle-gatherer's are still complaining.
The Luddites.
cheers....Jeff
S Viemeister
> Bivalves in general are best eaten raw.
>
I'll take your word for it. While I loved going cockling, I refuse to
eat the things.
Jeffrey Hamilton
"S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
A little squeamish are we ?
cheers....Jeff
S Viemeister
with garlic. But I don't like food that wiggles.
Jeffrey Hamilton
"S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
I just teasing, I too love scallops and prefer my shell fish or bivalves
cooked as a rule. I'd much rather have Oysters Rockefeller than a *raw*
oyster. It has something to do with the*texture*, I believe.
cheers....Jeff
Cory Bhreckan
> "S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
> news:6dq4r3F...@mid.individual.net...
>> Jeffrey Hamilton wrote:
>>> "S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
>>> news:6dpi0kF...@mid.individual.net...
>>>> Cory Bhreckan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Bivalves in general are best eaten raw.
>>>>>
>>>> I'll take your word for it. While I loved going cockling, I refuse to
>>>> eat the things.
>>> A little squeamish are we ?
>>>
>>>
>> I quite like the lovely big scallops from Loch Eribol, sauteed in butter
>> with garlic. But I don't like food that wiggles.
>
> I just teasing, I too love scallops and prefer my shell fish or bivalves
> cooked as a rule. I'd much rather have Oysters Rockefeller than a *raw*
> oyster. It has something to do with the*texture*, I believe.
>
> cheers....Jeff
>
>
Raw scallops are sweet and delicious, the big ones can be seared on the
outside as long as they remain raw in the middle.
Jeffrey Hamilton
"Cory Bhreckan" <coryv...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
news:SrRdk.60$jS4.11@trnddc07...
> Jeffrey Hamilton wrote:
>> "S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
>> news:6dq4r3F...@mid.individual.net...
>>> Jeffrey Hamilton wrote:
>>>> "S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
>>>> news:6dpi0kF...@mid.individual.net...
>>>>> Cory Bhreckan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bivalves in general are best eaten raw.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I'll take your word for it. While I loved going cockling, I refuse to
>>>>> eat the things.
>>>> A little squeamish are we ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I quite like the lovely big scallops from Loch Eribol, sauteed in butter
>>> with garlic. But I don't like food that wiggles.
>>
>> I just teasing, I too love scallops and prefer my shell fish or bivalves
>> cooked as a rule. I'd much rather have Oysters Rockefeller than a *raw*
>> oyster. It has something to do with the*texture*, I believe.
>>
>> cheers....Jeff
>
> Raw scallops are sweet and delicious, the big ones can be seared on the
> outside as long as they remain raw in the middle.
>
I have had them, I can tolerate them, but the texture is not unlike a raw
egg in my mouth. Not one of my favourites.
Oh well Cory, all the more for you.
cheers.....Jeff
Adam Whyte-Settlar
<deem...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Aye - there's a lot of ****ing Turks don't realise it either.
What the hell where those scum doing in the **European Cup*!!?
Where was the outrage!?
By that logic Spain should be in the African Nations Cup by virtue of their
enclave at Ceuta.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
>S Viemeister wrote:
>> Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:
>>> I used to go cockling with my Dad when I was a young lad of about 10 or
>>> 11. It involved grubbing about in the glorious mud at Langston Harbour.
>>> It was a beautifull reedy marshland wilderness of sandbanks and dunes
>>> and mudflats and extraordinary birdlife a couple of miles outside
>>> Portsmouth. Anyone could go and dig up a half bucket of cockles.
>>> My Dad taught me to let them gasp away in said bucket overnight then
>>> boil them alive in a large pot until they detach from their shells, add
>>> vinegar and Robertas your Auntie.
>>> Then in the late 60's came the M27 motorway linking Portsmouth and
>>> Southampton. That was the end of the marshlands and almost every living
>>> thing in it.
>>>
>>
>> I used to love going cockling in the Kyle of Tongue - wellies, a rake and
>> a bucket. One of my uncles ate them raw.....
>
> Bivalves in general are best eaten raw.
Oh yes - dear old 'Death-wish Breckan' has egressed from the void..
In some fanciful Garden of Eden perhaps. In the real polluted world anyone
who eats creatures that actually *filter shallow seawater for sustinance*
deserves a Darwin Award (hon)
Reminds me of the first Greek person I ever met. I was but a young
tousle-haired boy and it was on the slippery shores below 'The Piggery' ( as
The Nigg Ferry Hotel was affectionately known to me an my fellow oil-rig
builders) and this hapless economically-conscripted crewman (from the
Greek-owned 'Highland Queen' floating oil-rig-workers-camp that was moored
100 yards away) was rendered suicidal and was forlornly plucking mussels
from the rocks and eating them raw. All this within a few miles of the
Invergordon Aluminium Factory ( remember that 20-year farce?).
Needless to add I never saw him again.
Be warned.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
"Jeffrey Hamilton" <bbere...@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
news:DgMdk.16144$Ec.1...@read2.cgocable.net...
.
>> Then in the late 60's came the M27 motorway linking Portsmouth and
>> Southampton. That was the end of the marshlands and almost every living
>> thing in it.
>
> Well sure it was, but you could_now_ get to Portsmouth from Southamptom
> much quicker, so it was all good in the end.
>
> Mind you, I gather some cockle-gatherer's are still complaining.
> The Luddites.
Absolutely.
Though I believe the advantages were and are all with Southampton in that
they can now get to Portsmouth ten minutes faster.
That's Portsmouth: FA Cup Winners 2008. Tenth in The Premier. UEFA Cup
contestants 2009. Charity Shield season openers 2009.
As opposed to Southampton. Technically bankrupt Conference League
South-bound losers.
It's obvious where the cockle-killers motivations were spawned.
What *really* ****ing rankled me over the loss of my hereditary
cockle-hunting grounds was that - decades later - Pompey (Portsmouth
Football Club) where denied planning permission to build a state-of-the-art
new stadium on Eastney Marshs. (The last remaining bird habitat on the
shores of Langstone Harbour).
A road that helps speed refugees from Southampton by ten minutes is granted
but something of inestimiable cultural importance to the entire population
of east Hampshire - namely a decent footy pitch - is denied for the sake of
a flock of Dotterels.
And my family wonder why I left Hampshire?!
Adam Whyte-Settlar
"S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
I've got *heaps* of good ideas.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
>> As you must know by now - if you really want me to quote chapter and
>> verse I can.
>> What the **** do YOU know about 15th century English typesetting anyway?
>
> You still haven't looked in your King James bible, have you?
Are you on your 'pretending to be obtuse to the point of insanity' kick
again?
The King James Bible was printed *after* Caxton substituted 'y' for 'eth'
But in any case, if you are referring to such phrases as "Verily I say unto
Ye" then the 'Ye' is a form of 'you' not 'the'.
It has nothing whatsoever to do with Caxtons necessary mid fifteenth century
subsitution of the letter for 'eth' by the nearest thing in the font which
happened to be 'y'. Owning the only printing presses as he did Caxton
virtualy (and almost inevitably) standardised 'English English' at this
time. His use of 'y' for 'eth' clearly led to confusion among the
feeble-minded nod-standard English readers that has persisted to this day.
Google it FFS! I don't have the time to waste proving the factual and the
obvious to the feeble-minded.
deem...@aol.com
> <deemsb...@aol.com> wrote in message
Doesn't the French team have quite a few Africans?
conwaycaine
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
>
> "conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:8_Jdk.24667$Xe....@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
>
>>> As you must know by now - if you really want me to quote chapter and
>>> verse I can.
>>> What the **** do YOU know about 15th century English typesetting anyway?
>>
>> You still haven't looked in your King James bible, have you?
>
> Are you on your 'pretending to be obtuse to the point of insanity' kick
> again?
> The King James Bible was printed *after* Caxton substituted 'y' for 'eth'
> But in any case, if you are referring to such phrases as "Verily I say
> unto Ye" then the 'Ye' is a form of 'you' not 'the'.
And you accuse me of being obtuse?
You said that "Ye" was never a part of English.
I proved you wrong yet again and you come back with this inane drivel?
Anyway
When did I ever state that "Ye" was a form of "The"
"Ye Olde Shoppe" would be "Your old shop".
And not forgetting "Ye gods and little fishes".
conwaycaine
> Jeffrey Hamilton wrote:
>>>>
>>> I quite like the lovely big scallops from Loch Eribol, sauteed in butter
>>> with garlic. But I don't like food that wiggles.
>>
>> I just teasing, I too love scallops and prefer my shell fish or bivalves
>> cooked as a rule. I'd much rather have Oysters Rockefeller than a *raw*
>> oyster. It has something to do with the*texture*, I believe.
>>
>> cheers....Jeff
>
> Raw scallops are sweet and delicious, the big ones can be seared on the
> outside as long as they remain raw in the middle.
Yes, they are quite popular in upstate Mass.
Cory Bhreckan
Whatever that is.
Cory Bhreckan
*Steaming* heaps.
Cory Bhreckan
> "Cory Bhreckan" <coryv...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:UeLdk.3$av4.0@trnddc04...
>> S Viemeister wrote:
>>> Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:
>>>> I used to go cockling with my Dad when I was a young lad of about 10 or
>>>> 11. It involved grubbing about in the glorious mud at Langston Harbour.
>>>> It was a beautifull reedy marshland wilderness of sandbanks and dunes
>>>> and mudflats and extraordinary birdlife a couple of miles outside
>>>> Portsmouth. Anyone could go and dig up a half bucket of cockles.
>>>> My Dad taught me to let them gasp away in said bucket overnight then
>>>> boil them alive in a large pot until they detach from their shells, add
>>>> vinegar and Robertas your Auntie.
>>>> Then in the late 60's came the M27 motorway linking Portsmouth and
>>>> Southampton. That was the end of the marshlands and almost every living
>>>> thing in it.
>>>>
>>> I used to love going cockling in the Kyle of Tongue - wellies, a rake and
>>> a bucket. One of my uncles ate them raw.....
>> Bivalves in general are best eaten raw.
>
> Oh yes - dear old 'Death-wish Breckan' has egressed from the void..
> In some fanciful Garden of Eden perhaps. In the real polluted world anyone
> who eats creatures that actually *filter shallow seawater for sustinance*
> deserves a Darwin Award (hon)
Eckshully, the waters of Chincoteague, just to the south of the island
of Assateague and where the best local arsters are grown, are
relatively clean due to the low (human) population density. Assateague
is thirty seven miles long and is uninhabited. The sweet and briny
contents of said arsters make the slight risk well worth taking.
> Reminds me of the first Greek person I ever met. I was but a young
> tousle-haired boy and it was on the slippery shores below 'The Piggery' ( as
> The Nigg Ferry Hotel was affectionately known to me an my fellow oil-rig
> builders) and this hapless economically-conscripted crewman (from the
> Greek-owned 'Highland Queen' floating oil-rig-workers-camp that was moored
> 100 yards away) was rendered suicidal and was forlornly plucking mussels
> from the rocks and eating them raw. All this within a few miles of the
> Invergordon Aluminium Factory ( remember that 20-year farce?).
> Needless to add I never saw him again.
> Be warned.
I didn't know that the heat of cooking somehow mitigates chemical
contamination. Be that as it may, I have found that mussels are one of
the few bivalves that taste better cooked.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
<deem...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Algerian origin mainly I believe. The Arabs don't like to be reminded that
they are even in Africa at all. I used to deliberately wind the bastards up
on that score, saying things like "It's great to be back in Africa" and
suchlike.
They insisted to me that 'Africa starts further down'.
The Arab cafe owners are polite to whites however - one of them apologised
to me for sending a black waiter to my table.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
Maybe it doesn't but it would at least kill the sewage-living bacteria and
rinse the raw sea-water and some chemicals out of them.
> Be that as it may, I have found that mussels are one of the few bivalves
> that taste better cooked.
When I used to go sailing on the bosses yacht out of Auckalnd we would visit
the mussel farms on the way out to pick up a few supplies for lunch. He
cooked them in sea-water I believe. They were great.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
>> But in any case, if you are referring to such phrases as "Verily I say
>> unto Ye" then the 'Ye' is a form of 'you' not 'the'.
>
> And you accuse me of being obtuse?
> You said that "Ye" was never a part of English.
You're definitely at it.
'Ye' as a substitute for 'the' is not, and never was, part of the English
language - and you know damn well that's what I meant.
Scotty
An Italian friend of mine maintains that Africa begins at the river PO.....
conwaycaine
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
May I repost this little bit of my message which you so thoughtfully trimmed
out?
*****************************************
Anyway
When did I ever state that "Ye" was a form of "The"
"Ye Olde Shoppe" would be "Your old shop".
And not forgetting "Ye gods and little fishes".
*****************************************
Any questions?
conwaycaine
> conwaycaine wrote:
>> "Cory Bhreckan" <coryv...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:SrRdk.60$jS4.11@trnddc07...
>>> Jeffrey Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>>>> I quite like the lovely big scallops from Loch Eribol, sauteed in
>>>>> butter with garlic. But I don't like food that wiggles.
>>>> I just teasing, I too love scallops and prefer my shell fish or
>>>> bivalves cooked as a rule. I'd much rather have Oysters Rockefeller
>>>> than a *raw* oyster. It has something to do with the*texture*, I
>>>> believe.
>>>>
>>>> cheers....Jeff
>>> Raw scallops are sweet and delicious, the big ones can be seared on the
>>> outside as long as they remain raw in the middle.
>>
>> Yes, they are quite popular in upstate Mass.
>>
>>
>
> Whatever that is.
Geography isn't your strong suit then............
Adam Whyte-Settlar
>
> "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
> news:trqdnXlQMNH...@westnet.com.au...
>>
>> "conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:CZ3ek.12$9V...@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>>
>>>> But in any case, if you are referring to such phrases as "Verily I say
>>>> unto Ye" then the 'Ye' is a form of 'you' not 'the'.
>>>
>>> And you accuse me of being obtuse?
>>> You said that "Ye" was never a part of English.
>>
>> You're definitely at it.
>>
>> 'Ye' as a substitute for 'the' is not, and never was, part of the English
>> language - and you know damn well that's what I meant.
>
>
> May I repost this little bit of my message which you so thoughtfully
> trimmed out?
>
> *****************************************
> Anyway
> When did I ever state that "Ye" was a form of "The"
> "Ye Olde Shoppe" would be "Your old shop".
Not it isn't. it is supposed to mean 'The Old Shop'
> And not forgetting "Ye gods and little fishes".
Introduced post Caxton as I said.
> Any questions?
Yes - could you possibly be any more stupid.?
Adam Whyte-Settlar
>>> Yes, they are quite popular in upstate Mass.
>> Whatever that is.
>
> Geography isn't your strong suit then............
I thought you were talking about religion.
As it happens, the leader of the world's largest international pedophile
network is in Sydney for the next couple of days.
Sydneyites would be well advised to keep their kids indoors until he and his
fellow child abusers have gone back to their safe haven.
conwaycaine
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
You've already posted this once, laddie.
conwaycaine
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
As I said, the Pope's visit will surely set Adam's teeth to grinding.
Stand by for a rehash of all his complaints against Christianity.
Well phrased as always but still a rehash.............
Adam Whyte-Settlar
Ah yes - defending international pedophile networks now are you?
What has institutionalised child abuse got to do with Christ might I
enquire?
And I have nothing whatsoever against genuine followers of Christ's
teachings by the way. How could I? I've never even met one.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
>> Not it isn't. it is supposed to mean 'The Old Shop'
> You've already posted this once, laddie.
And in single syllables too. And still you pretend not to understand.
Ian Smith
> "Ian Smith" <ianin...@btinternet.naespam.com> wrote in message
> news:48775fbf$0$20031$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:12:35 -0400, conwaycaine wrote:
>>
>>> "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
> <Snip>
>
>>>> By the way - did you notice that big drop in unemployment figures in
>>>> Oz released yesterday?
>>>> It was just after the item about our near-record trade surplus last
>>>> month.
>>> *****
>>>
>>> Of course unemployment went down,
>>> It's sheep shearing time down south.
>>
>> Brigadoon makes an appearance once every 100 years. I believe the next
>> is due in 2054. One hopes to still be around by then. My Dad was short-
>> changed at the village shop last time, and would like to resolve the
>> dispute.
>
> I realize "Brigadoon" has set Scottish teeth on edge all over the world
> but I really liked the movie.
I like how unbelievably corny it is.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
>
> "S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
>> conwaycaine wrote:
>>> "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
>>
>>>> isn't authentic as 'Ye' is also a modern invention.
>>>> It didn't appear in Englysse until about 1450 and it's all Johan
>>>> Gutenberg and William Caxtons fault.
>>>
>>>
>>> If you had ever read your King James bible, you would find it replete
>>> with "Ye"'s, oh ye of little faith.
>>>
>>
>> Conway - have you looked at the date on your King James bible? _Well_
>> after 1450. Besides, (as you well know!) 'ye' is a plural pronoun -
>> rather like the southern 'y'all'.......
>>
>> Look up the history of the letters 'thorn'(ž) and 'eth'(š).
>
> invention when clearly it was in use during the 17th century.
You Yanks are so quaint. You genuinely think the 17th century is ancient.
<Chortle>
It IS modern. It was introduced as recently as the mid-fifteenth century.
You need to re-examine the meaning of the word 'modern' in a European
context you Yankee child.
However, I must say I admire your determination when it comes to defending
utterly lost causes.
deem...@aol.com
> "conwaycaine" <conwayca...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>
> news:ZUJdk.24661$Xe.1...@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "S Viemeister" <firstn...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
> >news:6dmntaF...@mid.individual.net...
> >> conwaycaine wrote:
> >>> "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
>
> >>>> But anywhere in *nglandshire you see that spelling you know the shoppe
> >>>> isn't authentic as 'Ye' is also a modern invention.
> >>>> It didn't appear in Englysse until about 1450 and it's all Johan
> >>>> Gutenberg and William Caxtons fault.
>
> >>> If you had ever read your King James bible, you would find it replete
> >>> with "Ye"'s, oh ye of little faith.
>
> >> Conway - have you looked at the date on your King James bible? _Well_
> >> after 1450. Besides, (as you well know!) 'ye' is a plural pronoun -
> >> rather like the southern 'y'all'.......
>
>
> > Indeed it is plural but old "Home Truth" stated that "Ye" is a modern
> > invention when clearly it was in use during the 17th century.
>
> You Yanks are so quaint. You genuinely think the 17th century is ancient.
> <Chortle>
Well, duh.....since the world revolves around us,
how can anything be modern that was before the US was formed? :-)
conwaycaine
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
>>> I thought you were talking about religion.
>>> As it happens, the leader of the world's largest international pedophile
>>> network is in Sydney for the next couple of days.
>>> Sydneyites would be well advised to keep their kids indoors until he and
>>> his fellow child abusers have gone back to their safe haven.
>>
>> As I said, the Pope's visit will surely set Adam's teeth to grinding.
>> Stand by for a rehash of all his complaints against Christianity.
>> Well phrased as always but still a rehash.............
>
> Ah yes - defending international pedophile networks now are you?
> What has institutionalised child abuse got to do with Christ might I
> enquire?
> And I have nothing whatsoever against genuine followers of Christ's
> teachings by the way. How could I? I've never even met one.
Well, it's this silly rule that requires all Priests to be celibate.
Now the early Irish church had it right, allowing the clergy to marry.
The bunch in Rome took care of that enlightened attitude quickly enough.
conwaycaine
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
Once again you snip out all the good stuff.
(Will you be in the crowd when the Popemobile goes by?)
conwaycaine
> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:26:47 -0400, conwaycaine wrote:
>>> Brigadoon makes an appearance once every 100 years. I believe the next
>>> is due in 2054. One hopes to still be around by then. My Dad was short-
>>> changed at the village shop last time, and would like to resolve the
>>> dispute.
>>
>> I realize "Brigadoon" has set Scottish teeth on edge all over the world
>> but I really liked the movie.
>
> I like how unbelievably corny it is.
It's an old movie.
All those old flicks were unbelievably corny.
And the acting was horrible...............
conwaycaine
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
Will you go to any length to defend your erroneous utterances?
Meanwhile, American bank stocks plunge to all time low levels, financial
institutions are beginning to fail, GMC is cutting costs big time in an
effort to remain in business, the cost of oil continues to climb, driving
inflation upwards, and the two biggest buyers and insurers of mortgages,
Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae teeter on the edge of insolvency.
Oh but it is going to be an exciting year.
(And where did I hear it all first?)
Fred J. McCall
:
:"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
:news:YeKdnXGWv51_weLV...@westnet.com.au...
:
And it all reversed field today. Oil drops below $130 a barrel,
Freddie and Fannie seeing a double digit percentage bounce in stock
prices, bank stocks up on the news that Indy Bank might have failed
due to illegal activities.
I don't give any credence to what stocks and such do anymore. Some
kid in Hawaii sneezes and everything moves all over the map...
--
"Rule Number One for Slayers - Don't die."
-- Buffy, the Vampire Slayer
conwaycaine
"Fred J. McCall" <fmc...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:4b4084lgh988k2jco...@4ax.com...
> "conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
<Snip>
> :
> :Meanwhile, American bank stocks plunge to all time low levels, financial
> :institutions are beginning to fail, GMC is cutting costs big time in an
> :effort to remain in business, the cost of oil continues to climb, driving
> :inflation upwards, and the two biggest buyers and insurers of mortgages,
> :Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae teeter on the edge of insolvency.
> :Oh but it is going to be an exciting year.
> :(And where did I hear it all first?)
> :
>
> And it all reversed field today. Oil drops below $130 a barrel,
> Freddie and Fannie seeing a double digit percentage bounce in stock
> prices, bank stocks up on the news that Indy Bank might have failed
> due to illegal activities.
>
> I don't give any credence to what stocks and such do anymore. Some
> kid in Hawaii sneezes and everything moves all over the map...
The first morning I fail to read the business section and all this
transpires.
I do hope the banking industry finally sees the light on sub-prime lending.
There are sound reasons for loan underwriting standards.
'"Forget the risk. There is money to be made!!"
Adam Whyte-Settlar
>
> "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
> news:PbWdnb7Vc7Qfg-PV...@westnet.com.au...
>> "conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> <Snip>
>
>>>> I thought you were talking about religion.
>>>> As it happens, the leader of the world's largest international
>>>> pedophile network is in Sydney for the next couple of days.
>>>> Sydneyites would be well advised to keep their kids indoors until he
>>>> and his fellow child abusers have gone back to their safe haven.
>>>
>>> As I said, the Pope's visit will surely set Adam's teeth to grinding.
>>> Stand by for a rehash of all his complaints against Christianity.
>>> Well phrased as always but still a rehash.............
>>
>> Ah yes - defending international pedophile networks now are you?
>> What has institutionalised child abuse got to do with Christ might I
>> enquire?
>> And I have nothing whatsoever against genuine followers of Christ's
>> teachings by the way. How could I? I've never even met one.
>
> Well, it's this silly rule that requires all Priests to be celibate.
I'm not so sure about that standard 'excuse' - it's the sort of thing the
Priests themselves would say when apprehended. If they can't handle celibacy
they could always visit a prostitute incognito. I wouldn't blame them for
that.
I think it's more the immunity from consequence - it encourages people to be
moraly lax when they know there will be no repercussions for even profound
spiritual laziness.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
>
> "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
> news:YeKdnXGWv51_weLV...@westnet.com.au...
>>
>> "conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:ZUJdk.24661$Xe.1...@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
>>>
>>> "S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
>>> news:6dmntaF...@mid.individual.net...
>>>> conwaycaine wrote:
>>>>> "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>>> But anywhere in *nglandshire you see that spelling you know the
>>>>>> shoppe isn't authentic as 'Ye' is also a modern invention.
>>>>>> It didn't appear in Englysse until about 1450 and it's all Johan
>>>>>> Gutenberg and William Caxtons fault.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you had ever read your King James bible, you would find it replete
>>>>> with "Ye"'s, oh ye of little faith.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Conway - have you looked at the date on your King James bible? _Well_
>>>> after 1450. Besides, (as you well know!) 'ye' is a plural pronoun -
>>>> rather like the southern 'y'all'.......
>>>>
>>>
>>> Indeed it is plural but old "Home Truth" stated that "Ye" is a modern
>>> invention when clearly it was in use during the 17th century.
>>
>> You Yanks are so quaint. You genuinely think the 17th century is ancient.
>> <Chortle>
>> It IS modern. It was introduced as recently as the mid-fifteenth century.
>> You need to re-examine the meaning of the word 'modern' in a European
>> context you Yankee child.
>> However, I must say I admire your determination when it comes to
>> defending utterly lost causes.
>
> Will you go to any length to defend your erroneous utterances?
I realise you enjoy being obtuse to the point of idiocy because you think it
annoys the crap out of me. And to an extent you are right - it is rather
irritating - but it gets to the point where it destroys any chance of a
rational discussion.
One last time. 'Ye' as a form of 'The' is not and never has been a spoken
English word.
Got that?
> Meanwhile, American bank stocks plunge to all time low levels, financial
> institutions are beginning to fail, GMC is cutting costs big time in an
> effort to remain in business, the cost of oil continues to climb, driving
> inflation upwards, and the two biggest buyers and insurers of mortgages,
> Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae teeter on the edge of insolvency.
> Oh but it is going to be an exciting year.
> (And where did I hear it all first?)
You should do as I'm always telling you: 'Remember where you heard it first
folks'.
You must be crapping it about my next prediction - that China will pull the
rug on you in about 3 or 4 years time.
North Australia is the only sensible place to be financially and will be for
the next couple of years - as I predicted it would be two years ago.
<smug mode off>
Adam Whyte-Settlar
And predictably Brain-dead Fred falls for the very first dead-cat-bounce of
the new bear market.
Whoopee! Oil now only $130 a barrel!! Sorted.
<shakes head sadly>
Fred J. McCall
:
:"conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
:news:FKKfk.2875$t32....@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
:>
:> "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
:> news:PbWdnb7Vc7Qfg-PV...@westnet.com.au...
:>> "conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
:> <Snip>
:>
:>>>> I thought you were talking about religion.
:>>>> As it happens, the leader of the world's largest international
:>>>> pedophile network is in Sydney for the next couple of days.
:>>>> Sydneyites would be well advised to keep their kids indoors until he
:>>>> and his fellow child abusers have gone back to their safe haven.
:>>>
:>>> As I said, the Pope's visit will surely set Adam's teeth to grinding.
:>>> Stand by for a rehash of all his complaints against Christianity.
:>>> Well phrased as always but still a rehash.............
:>>
:>> Ah yes - defending international pedophile networks now are you?
:>> What has institutionalised child abuse got to do with Christ might I
:>> enquire?
:>> And I have nothing whatsoever against genuine followers of Christ's
:>> teachings by the way. How could I? I've never even met one.
:>
:> Well, it's this silly rule that requires all Priests to be celibate.
:
:I'm not so sure about that standard 'excuse' - it's the sort of thing the
:Priests themselves would say when apprehended. If they can't handle celibacy
:they could always visit a prostitute incognito. I wouldn't blame them for
:that.
:
I agree (as a first order effect). However, the celibacy rule tends
to encourage people whose sexuality is viewed as 'sinful' and who are
religious to join the clergy. Hence there is a sort of self-selection
for sexual orientations that the Church would regard as 'sinful'
(homosexuals and pedophiles), with people hoping that the 'enforced'
celibacy will save them from their sinful urges.
:
:I think it's more the immunity from consequence - it encourages people to be
:moraly lax when they know there will be no repercussions for even profound
:spiritual laziness.
:
What 'immunity from consequence' are you blathering about? Priests
can be arrested just like anyone else.
--
You are
What you do
When it counts.
Fred J. McCall
:
:"conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
:>
:> "Fred J. McCall" <fmc...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
:> news:4b4084lgh988k2jco...@4ax.com...
:>> And it all reversed field today. Oil drops below $130 a barrel,
:>> Freddie and Fannie seeing a double digit percentage bounce in stock
:>> prices, bank stocks up on the news that Indy Bank might have failed
:>> due to illegal activities.
:>>
:>> I don't give any credence to what stocks and such do anymore. Some
:>> kid in Hawaii sneezes and everything moves all over the map...
:>
:> The first morning I fail to read the business section and all this
:> transpires.
:>
:> I do hope the banking industry finally sees the light on sub-prime
:> lending.
:> There are sound reasons for loan underwriting standards.
:> '"Forget the risk. There is money to be made!!"
:
:And predictably Brain-dead Fred falls for the very first dead-cat-bounce of
:the new bear market.
:Whoopee! Oil now only $130 a barrel!! Sorted.
:<shakes head sadly>
And predictably Asshat-Adam can't stand someone merely pointing out
the facts and has to try to turn that into some sort of personal
attack.
So, Adam, just what did I "fall for" in merely noting the numbers?
Or it is just that the 'Home Truths' in YOUR home must studiously
avoid any injection of that 'truth' part?
--
"You take the lies out of him, and he'll shrink to the size of
your hat; you take the malice out of him, and he'll disappear."
-- Mark Twain
conwaycaine
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
> "conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>> teachings by the way. How could I? I've never even met one.
>>
>> Well, it's this silly rule that requires all Priests to be celibate.
>
> I'm not so sure about that standard 'excuse' - it's the sort of thing the
> Priests themselves would say when apprehended. If they can't handle
> celibacy they could always visit a prostitute incognito. I wouldn't blame
> them for that.
> I think it's more the immunity from consequence - it encourages people to
> be moraly lax when they know there will be no repercussions for even
> profound spiritual laziness.
The Church did shelter these criminals far too long.
Anyway, the Pope did apologize to you for all the priestly abuse.
(That was you in front of the Popemobile, wasn't it?)
conwaycaine
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
>
> "conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:tSKfk.2880$t32...@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>>
>> "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
>> news:YeKdnXGWv51_weLV...@westnet.com.au...
>>>
>>> "conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>> news:ZUJdk.24661$Xe.1...@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
>>>>
>>>> "S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
>>>> news:6dmntaF...@mid.individual.net...
>>>>> conwaycaine wrote:
>>>>>> "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>>>> But anywhere in *nglandshire you see that spelling you know the
>>>>>>> shoppe isn't authentic as 'Ye' is also a modern invention.
>>>>>>> It didn't appear in Englysse until about 1450 and it's all Johan
>>>>>>> Gutenberg and William Caxtons fault.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you had ever read your King James bible, you would find it replete
>>>>>> with "Ye"'s, oh ye of little faith.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Conway - have you looked at the date on your King James bible? _Well_
>>>>> after 1450. Besides, (as you well know!) 'ye' is a plural pronoun -
>>>>> rather like the southern 'y'all'.......
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Indeed it is plural but old "Home Truth" stated that "Ye" is a modern
>>>> invention when clearly it was in use during the 17th century.
>>>
>>> You Yanks are so quaint. You genuinely think the 17th century is
>>> ancient.
>>> <Chortle>
>>> It IS modern. It was introduced as recently as the mid-fifteenth
>>> century.
>>> You need to re-examine the meaning of the word 'modern' in a European
>>> context you Yankee child.
>>> However, I must say I admire your determination when it comes to
>>> defending utterly lost causes.
>>
>> Will you go to any length to defend your erroneous utterances?
>
> I realise you enjoy being obtuse to the point of idiocy because you think
> it annoys the crap out of me. And to an extent you are right - it is
> rather irritating - but it gets to the point where it destroys any chance
> of a rational discussion.
>
> One last time. 'Ye' as a form of 'The' is not and never has been a spoken
> English word.
> Got that?
Speaking of being obtuse, intentionally or otherwise, how many times must I
say I've never declared "Ye" to be a form of "The"?
>> Meanwhile, American bank stocks plunge to all time low levels, financial
>> institutions are beginning to fail, GMC is cutting costs big time in an
>> effort to remain in business, the cost of oil continues to climb, driving
>> inflation upwards, and the two biggest buyers and insurers of mortgages,
>> Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae teeter on the edge of insolvency.
>> Oh but it is going to be an exciting year.
>> (And where did I hear it all first?)
>
> You should do as I'm always telling you: 'Remember where you heard it
> first folks'.
>
> You must be crapping it about my next prediction - that China will pull
> the rug on you in about 3 or 4 years time.
> North Australia is the only sensible place to be financially and will be
> for the next couple of years - as I predicted it would be two years ago.
> <smug mode off>
Ummm, no.
Australia, north or south, will be under the rule of China before all is
said and done.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
Nah - that was my decoy. I was up on the bridge with my armour-piercing
rounds.
It was a minor miracle that he apologised I agree - just wonder how much of
that is a cover up for the cover up.
Apparently it wasn't in the script and his bishops are furious that he did
it. Of course it was only in a small Mass - if he had any guts he would have
said it at the main rally of weirdos the day before.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
Quite possible - but I'll be long gone by then.
conwaycaine
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
>> Ummm, no.
>> Australia, north or south, will be under the rule of China before all is
>> said and done.
>
> Quite possible - but I'll be long gone by then.
Ah!
Yet another raft voyage to Thailand then.
deem...@aol.com
> "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
>
>
> <Snip>
>
> >> Ummm, no.
> >> Australia, north or south, will be under the rule of China before all is
> >> said and done.
>
> > Quite possible - but I'll be long gone by then.
>
> Ah!
> Yet another raft voyage to Thailand then.
He probably needs to head back to New Zealand.....I'm
sure the Chinese will have all of Asia sewn up.
Peter Jason
<deem...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:e69c04e5-9a7b-44ea...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
....AND WE ALL THOUGHT THE COLD WAR WAS BAD!
> weep <
Adam Whyte-Settlar
I've found planning any more than 20 minutes ahead is a waste of time so
I've no idea where we'll end up after our little Ozzie bus trip. That's
providing our little Ozzie bus trip comes off of course.
Korea perhaps - or maybe even China if we can come up with some plausible
scam that will fool the Chinese authorites into granting us entry visas. On
the other hand it could be somewhere really exotic - Barnsley for example.
Who knows.
S Viemeister
>
> I've found planning any more than 20 minutes ahead is a waste of time so
> I've no idea where we'll end up after our little Ozzie bus trip. That's
> providing our little Ozzie bus trip comes off of course.
> Korea perhaps - or maybe even China if we can come up with some plausible
> scam that will fool the Chinese authorites into granting us entry visas.
>
>
>
just returned from teaching in China, but they had expected to be there
at least another year. The visa situation seems to be quite dire. Many
of the expats they know, who'd been there for years, have been having
problems getting their visas renewed, and even tourist visas are shorter
than they used to be.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
"S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
I blame all these tens of millions of commie hippies worldwide who are
unsportingly pointing out that the Chinese government are emulating the USA
with regard to executions, torture and economic imperialism.
Bad form. No wonder they are less keen to let westerners in if that's the
attitude.
Might be able to swing something in the environmental or health fields. Both
of us are ridiculously over-qualified so we might be in with a chance. Maybe
some kind of 'research' where 'the west can learn from the Chinese example'
sort of approach.
It's a long way off yet. More than twenty minutes anyway. We'll see. Thanks
for the tip.
S Viemeister
>
> I blame all these tens of millions of commie hippies worldwide who are
> unsportingly pointing out that the Chinese government are emulating the USA
> with regard to executions, torture and economic imperialism.
> Bad form. No wonder they are less keen to let westerners in if that's the
> attitude.
>
You may find this blog interesting, particularly the very last section -
conwaycaine
**************
I'm not sure NZ would let him return.
Certainly not if the sheepies have a vote in the matter.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
"S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
> Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:
>>
>> I blame all these tens of millions of commie hippies worldwide who are
>> unsportingly pointing out that the Chinese government are emulating the
>> USA with regard to executions, torture and economic imperialism.
>> Bad form. No wonder they are less keen to let westerners in if that's the
>> attitude.
>>
>
> You may find this blog interesting, particularly the very last section -
Yeah - pretty much what I've said above really - only not in my stylish
prose
Damn those anti-torture hippy scum - they're ruining it for all us decent
globe-trotting opportunistic scammers.
Maybe I should offer my services as an anti human-rights propaganda agent? A
sort of latter-day Lord Wong Wong. One has to go with the flow after all.