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La N

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Dec 28, 2009, 11:51:16 PM12/28/09
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Scottish coastal town of Nairn scoops coveted spot in 'top five world
destinations for 2010'

By Sarah Gordon
Last updated at 12:36 PM on 21st December 2009


A tiny Scottish town has secured second place in a list of the world's most
up-and-coming travel hotspots for 2010.


The small seaside town of Nairn, not far from Inverness, has been included
in the coveted 'top five world destinations' list by the website Tripadvisor
for its fair climate and proximity to the Highlands.

Based on the Moray Coast, the town is said to enjoy some of the sunniest
weather in Scotland and was described as the 'ideal base' for a Highlands
holiday.
The Scottish offering was only beaten by the town of Troncones in Mexico,
known for its miles of white sandy beaches between the jungle and the
tropical waters of the Pacific Ocean.


But the Highlands resort, with a population of 11,000, did beat off
competition from El Chalten in Patagonia, which took third place with its
hikes to the Unesco World Heritage site at Parque Nacional Los Glaciares.

It also came ahead of Patara in Turkey, with its 12 mile-long beach, and the
picturesque Bavarian town of Rothenburg ob der Tauber in Germany.


This is not the first time the popular coastal town has reached the heady
heights of fame.


With visitors including Charlton Heston, Burt Lancaster and Charlie Chaplin
as well as famous resident Oscar winner Tilda Swinton, the resort punches
above its weight in terms of infamy.

A spokeswoman for tourism body VisitScotland said the study was 'great news
for Nairn'.


She said today: 'For those who know it already, it's the perfect spot to
explore the area.


'You have castles, golf, walking, beautiful scenery, fantastic food and a
very friendly welcome.


'It's definitely a must-visit destination and this accolade will encourage
more people to do just that.'


The list emerged as the website revealed the results of its annual travel
trends survey of more than 3,000 US travellers.


It found that 92 per cent of travellers are planning to take two or more
holidays next year, up from 89 per cent last year.


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The Phantom Piper

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Dec 29, 2009, 3:29:33 AM12/29/09
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On Dec 28, 8:51 pm, "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Based on the Moray Coast, the town is said to enjoy
> some of the sunniest weather in Scotland and was
> described as the 'ideal base' for a Highlands holiday.

Enh - it's alright, I suppose. I would have thought
Ft. William for Sun, and I'm not at all certain that
the Typical Component of a "Highlands Holiday"
ought to be Sun... As for an 'ideal base', I think
that Inverness has more charm, but then there's
no accounting for taste. The dolphins seem to
like it though, so who's to say?


Unmoved,

The Phantom Piper

HardySpicer

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Dec 30, 2009, 4:30:37 AM12/30/09
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On Dec 29, 9:29 pm, The Phantom Piper <ThePhantomPi...@comcast.net>
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What the fuck would you know? You're a Yank.

The Phantom Piper

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Dec 30, 2009, 11:16:57 AM12/30/09
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On Dec 30, 1:30 am, HardySpicer <gyansor...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> What the fuck would you know? You're a Yank.

As much as you're a Kiwi, then?


Talking Down To The Antipodes,

The Phantom Piper

Adam Whyte-Settlar

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Dec 31, 2009, 2:53:49 AM12/31/09
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"La N" <nilita20...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-1237489/Scottish-coastal-town-Nairn-scoops-coveted-spot-world-destinations-2010.html
> Scottish coastal town of Nairn scoops coveted spot in 'top five world
> destinations for 2010'
>
> By Sarah Gordon
> Last updated at 12:36 PM on 21st December 2009
>
>
> A tiny Scottish town has secured second place in a list of the world's
> most
> up-and-coming travel hotspots for 2010.

Oh that's just PERfect!

Of all the places they have to pick my retirement village.
That's one of the best kept secrets in the Highlands - or rather it was.
B*st*rds.

Though for me, another attraction is that there is about 6 ft of light sandy
loam as well as plenty of sun for the solar-thermal unit.
Of course I planning heading a few miles inland, as by the time I actualy
retire Nairn itself will be prone to flooding.


Adam Whyte-Settlar

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Dec 31, 2009, 2:58:13 AM12/31/09
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It's not that great that I would rate it a 'top destination' by any means.
It's dead handy though - best climate in the Highlands and handy for the
shops.


I presume you were joking on both counts re 'The Fort' and Snecky?
Fort William is the second wettest place in Britain and Snecky has all the
charm of a Stalin-era Silesian lead-mining camp in winter - without the
architectural merit.

The Phantom Piper

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Dec 31, 2009, 4:01:33 AM12/31/09
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On Dec 30, 11:53 pm, "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote:
>
> Oh that's just PERfect!
>
> Of all the places they have to pick my retirement village.
> That's one of the best kept secrets in the Highlands - or
> rather it was.

Really? Nairn? That's your Ideal? Above Inverness?

Well it's not too surprising I suppose; after all, I couldn't
tolerate that sun-blasted hellhole you're travelling in right
now, so I suppose you're just another Heat-Worshipping
Light Freak, like so many...

Give me a nice overcast sky leaking one of the many
different types of rain in Scotland and I'm happy as a
clam in three feet of mud.

Still, it is much nicer aesthetically than Ft. William, if
you go in for that sort of place...

Oy! Have you considered Ullapool? Very lovely!
(If you don't mind a bit of Peat in your tapwater.)

http://www.broomfieldhp.com/images/buttonsnav/arial_ullapool.jpg

http://www.ewensofullapool.co.uk/images/P6281211c_ullapool-from-morefield.jpg

http://www.rhidorroch.com/pics/local_ullapool_boats.jpg


Not Nairn-Centric,

The Phantom Piper

The Phantom Piper

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Dec 31, 2009, 4:16:10 AM12/31/09
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On Dec 30, 11:58 pm, "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote:
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> It's not that great that I would rate it a 'top destination' by any means.

Don't you find it sort of - tacky?

> It's dead handy though - best climate in the Highlands
> and handy for the shops.

You'll find better shops in Inverness, and as for
"climate," if I wanted to live in Florida then I'd
live in bloody Florida, wouldn't I?

> I presume you were joking on both counts re 'The Fort'
> and Snecky? Fort William is the second wettest place
> in Britain and Snecky has all the charm of a Stalin-era
> Silesian lead-mining camp in winter - without the
> architectural merit.

*/|:~{

Alright, English: *first*, I find your tone offensive;
second, I can recall only Sunburns after visiting
Fort William - (and that on no less than *three*
occasions: two in my childhood and one other
as an adult) - and third, just what's wrong with
a bit of Snow, Sleet, and Dreich? If it's *Winter*,
that's what it's _supposed_ to be like, innit? I
don't *like* hot weather, I don't *like* sunburn, and
I am _perfectly_ happy with a nice chill wind and
anything from a light drizzle to a real gandiegow!
If you can't hack it then whyn't ye just feckoff back
to Sunny London then? */>:~[


"Silesian Lead-Mining Camp" Indeed!,

The Phantom Piper

The Phantom Piper

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Dec 31, 2009, 7:55:34 AM12/31/09
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On Dec 31, 1:16 am, The Phantom Piper <ThePhantomPi...@comcast.net>
wrote:
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> Alright, English:
>
> */>:~[

(You do realise that I *am* kidding you, I hope.)


Not Actually Bent Out Of Shape Over Nairn,

The Phantom Piper

Fred J. McCall

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Dec 31, 2009, 11:10:45 AM12/31/09
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The Phantom Piper <ThePhan...@comcast.net> wrote:

:
:You'll find better shops in Inverness, and as for


:"climate," if I wanted to live in Florida then I'd
:live in bloody Florida, wouldn't I?

:

You wouldn't be allowed anywhere but near San Francisco, Pillock. The
rest of the country has standards...


--
"It's always different. It's always complex. But at some point,
somebody has to draw the line. And that somebody is always me....
I am the law."
-- Buffy, The Vampire Slayer

Adam Whyte-Settlar

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Dec 31, 2009, 11:29:37 AM12/31/09
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"The Phantom Piper" <ThePhan...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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On Dec 30, 11:58 pm, "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote:
>
> It's not that great that I would rate it a 'top destination' by any means.

Don't you find it sort of - tacky?

No - IMO it will take at least another 20 years before it attains such
exalted status.

> best climate in the Highlands
> and handy for the shops.

You'll find better shops in Inverness,

Those were the shops I was referring to you dullard.
We have 6 litre V12 cars in the Highlands now don't you know?
20 miles to Snecky = 5 minutes - with only minor collateral damage.
(usualy).


> Snecky has all the charm of a Stalin-era
> Silesian lead-mining camp in winter - without the
> architectural merit.

Alright, English: *first*, I find your tone offensive;

Good.


Adam Whyte-Settlar

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On Dec 30, 11:53 pm, "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote:
>
> Oh that's just PERfect!
>
> Of all the places they have to pick my retirement village.
> That's one of the best kept secrets in the Highlands - or
> rather it was.

Really? Nairn? That's your Ideal? Above Inverness?

Really.
I'm under no illusion that there is any such thing as an 'ideal'. I'm merely
being practical. Good soil, good climate, good local social connections.
I would prefer a Stalin-era Silesian lead mine to Inverness.
As would all right-minded people.
Have you SEEN Snecky lately?
It was a petty-minded, insular little shite-hole in 1972. The year it
peaked. It's really gone downhill since then.


Oy! Have you considered Ullapool?

'Considered it'?!
I lived it.

I worked for B T Rogers Building Company in Ullapool for about six months
and lived in Argyle Street.
A more revolting class of scum it would be impossible to encounter outside
of Inverness.

Fifteen years later I even got into a massive fist-fight there one time -
based on the charge that I was 'stealing local jobs' - when I undertook a
large landscaping project that no local company had even managed to turn up
to give an estimate for.
In the west coast in those days 'unfair competition' meant turning up on the
day you said you would.
Luckily my gardening team were hand-picked murderous Weegy bastards.
Leastways they scared the crap out of me.
I heroically nominated myself as the getaway driver and left the unseemly
brawl a minute ahead of my (gloriously victorious) street-fighting veteran
squad (and the law we later found out) and was gunning the engine as they
piled into the tray.
Ultimately made an absolute killing on that job as I remember.

Happy days.

Cory Bhreckan

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Dec 31, 2009, 12:03:28 PM12/31/09
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The Phantom Piper wrote:
> On Dec 30, 11:53 pm, "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote:
>> Oh that's just PERfect!
>>
>> Of all the places they have to pick my retirement village.
>> That's one of the best kept secrets in the Highlands - or
>> rather it was.
>
> Really? Nairn? That's your Ideal? Above Inverness?
>
> Well it's not too surprising I suppose; after all, I couldn't
> tolerate that sun-blasted hellhole you're travelling in right
> now, so I suppose you're just another Heat-Worshipping
> Light Freak, like so many...
>
> Give me a nice overcast sky leaking one of the many
> different types of rain in Scotland and I'm happy as a
> clam in three feet of mud.
>
> Still, it is much nicer aesthetically than Ft. William, if
> you go in for that sort of place...
>
> Oy! Have you considered Ullapool? Very lovely!
> (If you don't mind a bit of Peat in your tapwater.)

The local haddock and Loch Broom prawns are killer.

>
> http://www.broomfieldhp.com/images/buttonsnav/arial_ullapool.jpg
>
> http://www.ewensofullapool.co.uk/images/P6281211c_ullapool-from-morefield.jpg

Here's one the Missus took, we were on our way back from Durness. I had
turned the car around and head back up the hill for the shot.

http://mysite.verizon.net/coryvreckan/images/Ullapool_n.jpg

>
> http://www.rhidorroch.com/pics/local_ullapool_boats.jpg
>
>
> Not Nairn-Centric,
>
> The Phantom Piper


--
"For the stronger we our houses do build,
The less chance we have of being killed." - William Topaz McGonagall

La N

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Dec 31, 2009, 12:17:49 PM12/31/09
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Gorgeous!!! I can't believe Adam gave up this kind of scenery to live in
the hellish climes of Oz.

- nilita


deem...@aol.com

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Dec 31, 2009, 12:21:21 PM12/31/09
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On Dec 31, 12:17 pm, "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Cory Bhreckan wrote:
> > The Phantom Piper wrote:
> >> On Dec 30, 11:53 pm, "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote:
> >>> Oh that's just PERfect!
>
> >>> Of all the places they have to pick my retirement village.
> >>> That's one of the best kept secrets in the Highlands - or
> >>> rather it was.
>
> >> Really?  Nairn?  That's your Ideal?  Above Inverness?
>
> >> Well it's not too surprising I suppose; after all, I couldn't
> >> tolerate that sun-blasted hellhole you're travelling in right
> >> now, so I suppose you're just another Heat-Worshipping
> >> Light Freak, like so many...
>
> >> Give me a nice overcast sky leaking one of the many
> >> different types of rain in Scotland and I'm happy as a
> >> clam in three feet of mud.
>
> >> Still, it is much nicer aesthetically than Ft. William, if
> >> you go in for that sort of place...
>
> >> Oy!  Have you considered Ullapool?  Very lovely!
> >> (If you don't mind a bit of Peat in your tapwater.)
>
> > The local haddock and Loch Broom prawns are killer.
>
> >>http://www.broomfieldhp.com/images/buttonsnav/arial_ullapool.jpg
>
> >>http://www.ewensofullapool.co.uk/images/P6281211c_ullapool-from-moref...

>
> > Here's one the Missus took, we were on our way back from Durness. I
> > had turned the car around and head back up the hill for the shot.
>
> >http://mysite.verizon.net/coryvreckan/images/Ullapool_n.jpg
>
> Gorgeous!!!  I can't believe Adam gave up this kind of scenery to live in
> the hellish climes of Oz.
>
> - nilita-

He's got a thing for spiders and snakes...and salties....and deadly
stingrays.

Cory Bhreckan

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Dec 31, 2009, 1:18:10 PM12/31/09
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Maybe they remind him of his mum.

S Viemeister

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Dec 31, 2009, 1:33:39 PM12/31/09
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Cory Bhreckan wrote:
>
> Here's one the Missus took, we were on our way back from Durness. I had
> turned the car around and head back up the hill for the shot.
>
> http://mysite.verizon.net/coryvreckan/images/Ullapool_n.jpg
>
There are often fabulous rainbows there.

La N

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Dec 31, 2009, 1:36:56 PM12/31/09
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I reiterate: that is breathtakingly beautiful country. So peaceful looking
too, away from the cacaphonous troubles of the world.

- nilita


Fred J. McCall

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Dec 31, 2009, 3:51:52 PM12/31/09
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Cory Bhreckan <coryvreckan@nospam_verizon.net> wrote:

:deem...@aol.com wrote:
:>
:> He's got a thing for spiders and snakes...and salties....and deadly


:> stingrays.
:
:Maybe they remind him of his mum.

:

Adam had a mum? Who could have guessed?


--
"The odds get even - You blame the game.
The odds get even - The stakes are the same.
You bet your life."
-- "You Bet Your Life", Rush

Robert Peffers

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Dec 31, 2009, 5:20:42 PM12/31/09
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"La N" <nilita20...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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There has just been a TV series done by a bonnie red headed English girl
named Vanessa Collingridge.
She starts her presentation saying she is a Geographer who has travelled the
World to view the wonders and that she came to Scotland, fell in love with
it and stayed on. She claims Scotland can top anywhere in the World. She
then goes on to prove it with the finest video film of Scotland I have ever
seen and I've been shooting film and video of Scotland since the 1950s.

You can see a sample of youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22RJ5ycktsQ

Wonderful stuff.
--

Auld Bob


La N

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Dec 31, 2009, 5:29:56 PM12/31/09
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Thanks, Mr. Peffers. I'm watching it right now. As I have mentioned, my
brother lived in Scotland for several years and really really loved it and
especially the scenery.

- nilita


La N

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Dec 31, 2009, 5:37:12 PM12/31/09
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La N wrote:
> >>>
>> There has just been a TV series done by a bonnie red headed English
>> girl named Vanessa Collingridge.
>> She starts her presentation saying she is a Geographer who has
>> travelled the World to view the wonders and that she came to
>> Scotland, fell in love with it and stayed on. She claims Scotland can
>> top anywhere in the World. She then goes on to prove it with the
>> finest video film of Scotland I have ever seen and I've been shooting
>> film and video of Scotland since the 1950s.
>> You can see a sample of youtube
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22RJ5ycktsQ
>>
>> Wonderful stuff.
>
> Thanks, Mr. Peffers. I'm watching it right now. As I have
> mentioned, my brother lived in Scotland for several years and really
> really loved it and especially the scenery.
>


Really nice segment on the Lochnagar Distillery at the end. Made me
thirsty, and I don't even really like Scotch ...;p

- nil


Fred J. McCall

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Dec 31, 2009, 6:21:41 PM12/31/09
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"Robert Peffers" <peff...@btinternet.com> wrote:

:
:There has just been a TV series done by a bonnie red headed English girl

:named Vanessa Collingridge.
:She starts her presentation saying she is a Geographer who has travelled the
:World to view the wonders and that she came to Scotland, fell in love with
:it and stayed on. She claims Scotland can top anywhere in the World. She
:then goes on to prove it with the finest video film of Scotland I have ever
:seen and I've been shooting film and video of Scotland since the 1950s.
:
:You can see a sample of youtube
:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22RJ5ycktsQ
:
:Wonderful stuff.

:

I've watched part of the series. You're right; it's wonderful stuff.

She's not bad, either. ;-)


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-- Professor Walsh, "Buffy the Vampire Slayer"

Jeffrey Hamilton

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Dec 31, 2009, 6:28:11 PM12/31/09
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Simple, Adam goes where the *purse* market is.

cheers.......Jeff


Jeffrey Hamilton

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Dec 31, 2009, 6:29:06 PM12/31/09
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Beautiful shot, Cory.

cheers....Jeff

Jeffrey Hamilton

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Dec 31, 2009, 6:31:17 PM12/31/09
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Those *green thumbs* do come in handy, eh ? <g>

cheers....Jeff


La N

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Dec 31, 2009, 6:34:31 PM12/31/09
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Good point. Nobody to "fleece" in Scotland ... save *sheep* .. :) :) :)

- nil


Jeffrey Hamilton

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Dec 31, 2009, 6:44:11 PM12/31/09
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Beautiful country. Thankyou for posting this.

cheers....Jeff


Cory Bhreckan

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Dec 31, 2009, 7:23:46 PM12/31/09
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Then have a 'Bus Lite' <Shudder>

La N

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Dec 31, 2009, 7:26:53 PM12/31/09
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Cory Bhreckan wrote:
> La N wrote:
>> La N wrote:
>>>> There has just been a TV series done by a bonnie red headed
>>>> English girl named Vanessa Collingridge.
>>>> She starts her presentation saying she is a Geographer who has
>>>> travelled the World to view the wonders and that she came to
>>>> Scotland, fell in love with it and stayed on. She claims Scotland
>>>> can top anywhere in the World. She then goes on to prove it with
>>>> the finest video film of Scotland I have ever seen and I've been
>>>> shooting film and video of Scotland since the 1950s.
>>>> You can see a sample of youtube
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22RJ5ycktsQ
>>>>
>>>> Wonderful stuff.
>>> Thanks, Mr. Peffers. I'm watching it right now. As I have
>>> mentioned, my brother lived in Scotland for several years and really
>>> really loved it and especially the scenery.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Really nice segment on the Lochnagar Distillery at the end. Made me
>> thirsty, and I don't even really like Scotch ...;p
>>
>> - nil
>>
>>
>
> Then have a 'Bus Lite' <Shudder>

Point of order that's *Bud* Lite. And I think I will, thank ya veddy much
....


The Phantom Piper

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Dec 31, 2009, 7:40:48 PM12/31/09
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On Dec 31, 8:29 am, "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote:
>
> 20 miles to Snecky = 5 minutes

*snort*!

And you call yourself a Scottish Driver...

Pussy!

> Good.

New Year's Resolution kicking in already, eh?


Applauding,

The Phantom Piper

The Phantom Piper

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Dec 31, 2009, 7:49:42 PM12/31/09
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On Dec 31, 8:49 am, "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote:
>
> Good soil,

Not interested. The only concern I have is the Soil
under the local supermarket good enough to keep
the place steady as I finish my shopping...

> good climate,

Blazing hot hellhole filled with dangerous UV rays...

> good local social connections.

*AH-HAH*! It comes out! You want the benefit
of the ulltra-*super*-tacky Nairnian Golfing-Class
connexions! The tea-and-finger-sandwiches crowd.

You're in for a spot of Social Climbing for your
decrepitly elderly retired days!

> Have you SEEN Snecky lately?
> It was a petty-minded, insular little shite-hole in 1972.
> The year it peaked. It's really gone downhill since then.

Snot true: you just don't know where to go. (Or maybe
you've not been thrown out of better places than that?)

> I worked for B T Rogers Building Company in Ullapool
> for about six  months and lived in Argyle Street.
>

> Fifteen years later I even got into a massive fist-fight there
> one time - based on the charge that I was 'stealing local
> jobs' - when I undertook a large landscaping project that
> no local company had even managed to turn up to give an
> estimate for.

Oh, here we go...

> In the west coast in those days 'unfair competition' meant
> turning up on the day you said you would.

LOL!

> I heroically nominated myself as the getaway driver and

- the rest was Predictable. */:~}

> Happy days.

To you as well, "Crocodile Nairn"...


Watching Adam Achieve Dignity,

The Phantom Piper

The Phantom Piper

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Dec 31, 2009, 7:57:14 PM12/31/09
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On Dec 31, 9:03 am, Cory Bhreckan <coryvreckan@nospam_verizon.net>
wrote:

>
> Here's one the Missus took, we were on our way back
> from Durness. I had turned the car around and head back
> up the hill for the shot.

I know the very spot!


Not Hated By Ullapool,

The Phantom Piper

The Phantom Piper

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On Dec 31, 10:33 am, S Viemeister <firstn...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
>
> There are often fabulous rainbows there.

`S'truth!


And Kelpies!,

The Phantom Piper

Fifeshire Floozie

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Dec 31, 2009, 8:01:34 PM12/31/09
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"The Phantom Piper" <ThePhan...@comcast.net> wrote

On Dec 30, 11:53 pm, "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote:
>
>> Oh that's just PERfect!
>
>> Of all the places they have to pick my retirement village.
>> That's one of the best kept secrets in the Highlands - or
>> rather it was.

I thought you were already retired!

>Oy! Have you considered Ullapool? Very lovely!
>(If you don't mind a bit of Peat in your tapwater.)

>http://www.broomfieldhp.com/images/buttonsnav/arial_ullapool.jpg

>http://www.ewensofullapool.co.uk/images/P6281211c_ullapool-from-morefield.jpg

>http://www.rhidorroch.com/pics/local_ullapool_boats.jpg

I thought Ullapool was a really charming place.

.

The Phantom Piper

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>
> I thought you were already retired!

The attributions don't make clear who you are
addressing this to: I am - Adam on the other
hand still has bouts of fisticuffs scheduled in
many small towns throughout Scotland and
the world...

> I thought Ullapool was a really charming place.

It is, if one hasn't raised the whole village against oneself!


*Still* Not Hated In Ullapool,

The Phantom Piper

Adam Whyte-Settlar

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"Cory Bhreckan" <coryvreckan@nospam_verizon.net> wrote in message
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>> http://www.broomfieldhp.com/images/buttonsnav/arial_ullapool.jpg


<shudder>

Yeah - that's the place.

That's very similar to the view I had every day - though not quite so high
of course.
I was working up in Brae building a big new house overlooking the loch. 1972
it was.
I'd almost forgotten - took years of therapy - thanks for reminding why I
left the west coast.
I was there right through the winter so the view was usualy limited to about
30 feet by the perpetual swirling sleet - a blessing really.

Then it got worse.
I got a job building these oil storage tanks (buried in foreground) and then
drilling and blasting a ship canal in front of that refueling pier.
(12 hour night shifts in winter)
My house is just out of site around that bend in the road on the right.
And that picture was taken on the best summers day we ever had.
You can see why I hanker for warmer climes can't you.

http://marnoch.org/galleryhm/aultbea.jpg

This is my view from just along the road these days.
More my kind of town.

http://www.science.mcmaster.ca/~igu-cmgs/images/Brisbane.jpg

There are 'Rivercat' taxis here. Small, very fast hydrofoils that can get
you to almost any part of the central city for a few bucks for a day pass.
You just jump on and off as many times as you want.
Nice way to get around. As with most cities these days a car is just a
liability. $10 an hour to park in some places.


Adam Whyte-Settlar

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"La N" <nilita20...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Gorgeous!!! I can't believe Adam gave up this kind of scenery to live in
> the hellish climes of Oz.

You kidding - the west coast is a barran wet desert. I don't know how anyone
can stand to live there.
I lasted two years - never again. There are plenty of places in Scotland
that are way better places to live than that hell-hole.

This is one place I lived after that.

This is the view from about 500 yards down the hill from my cottage on the
Black Isle in winter
http://www.geograph.org.uk/geophotos/01/10/54/1105429_089ce40f.jpg

From a different angle in autumn
http://www.geograph.org.uk/geophotos/01/04/31/1043127_2cfc05f0.jpg

Half a mile along the road in summer
http://s0.geograph.org.uk/photos/94/91/949136_e76b5984.jpg
http://www.loveofscotland.com/pics/blackisle_field1.jpg

Looking west
http://www.northernsights.net/dingwall-Raw00070t.jpg


I also lived in this village for a few years
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/66/Cromarty_and_Cromarty_Firth.jpg

Used to catch the 'ferry' from here every morning
http://www.locationhighland.co.uk/userfiles/image/big/boats%20in%20cromarty%20harbour.jpg


I also lived here for nearly ten years. Not in the Castle : ) - in one of
the Estate cottages.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/99/294414393_7bf0356dfb.jpg?v=0

Ha! Look what I've found! This is the entrance drive to the Castle - I
planted those daffodils!
Must be 20 years ago now. Wow- have they ever gone forth and mulplied. I
also planted a secondary avenue of Tilia cordata to replace that one when
they die in a hundred years or two.
http://www.invernesstours.com/images/castleleoddrive20070409-01.jpg

A more general view of the glen.
http://images.travelpod.com/users/eatdessertfirst/world_tour_05.1153920840.imgp7691_-_heather_and_castle_leod.jpg


Anyway - just rambling on now, and I coudl show you some of the other
cracking spots I've parked my arse over the years but I won't bore you any
further.
Just thought I'd show you that there are plenty of less forbidding places to
live in the Highlands
It doesn't have to be all barran windswept wet rocks.


Adam Whyte-Settlar

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Yeah - every five minutes.
Guess why.


Adam Whyte-Settlar

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"La N" <nilita20...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>> Gorgeous!!! I can't believe Adam gave up this kind of scenery to
>>> live in the hellish climes of Oz.
>>>
>>> - nilita
>>
>> Simple, Adam goes where the *purse* market is.
>>
>
> Good point. Nobody to "fleece" in Scotland ... save *sheep* .. :) :) :)

It was hellish living here for sure.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/Port_douglas_qld_australia.jpg

The weather is only crap for about 3 months (too hot) the rest of the time
it's just perfect.


Adam Whyte-Settlar

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"La N" <nilita20...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Youwould probably like this spot.
I used to go fishing with my Dad on this very spot at around the time this
picture was taken.

http://www.oldukphotos.com/graphics/Scotland%20Photos/Ross-shire,%20Plockton%201960%27s.jpg

Same place from higher up
http://www.plocktoncottages.co.uk/images/plockton_full.jpg


Adam Whyte-Settlar

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"Fifeshire Floozie" <htr.@faeFife.com> wrote in message
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Nasty little place. Very unfriendly people. Seeing as I lived there I was
privy to what was said about the tourists as soon as they were out of
earshot.
My sister lived there for about ten years and my parents for about two.
Two faced in-bred tinks for the most part.
It would probably be OK for a Scottish woman, but they hate the *nglish more
than just about any other place I've ever lived.
Not that I blame them you understand.


Nebulous

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On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 13:26:31 +1000, "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble>
wrote:

You getting homesick?

Here's mine.

http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/gardenstown/gardenstown/

Or

http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/gardenstown/crovie/index.html

half a mile away on a coastal path.

Neb

La N

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These are all friggin' beautiful! Adam, what the hell is wrong with
you???!!!!

;)

- nil


La N

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Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:
> "La N" <nilita20...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:cb6%m.59696$PH1.5781@edtnps82...
>> S Viemeister wrote:
>>> Cory Bhreckan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Here's one the Missus took, we were on our way back from Durness. I
>>>> had turned the car around and head back up the hill for the shot.
>>>>
>>>> http://mysite.verizon.net/coryvreckan/images/Ullapool_n.jpg
>>>>
>>> There are often fabulous rainbows there.
>>
>> I reiterate: that is breathtakingly beautiful country. So peaceful
>> looking too, away from the cacaphonous troubles of the world.
>
> Youwould probably like this spot.
> I used to go fishing with my Dad on this very spot at around the time
> this picture was taken.
>
> http://www.oldukphotos.com/graphics/Scotland%20Photos/Ross-shire,%20Plockton%201960%27s.jpg


Is that a castle in the background?

Gorgeous.

- nil


La N

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Very pretty. Kind of reminds me of the East Coast of Canada.

- nilita


Fred J. McCall

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"La N" <nilita20...@yahoo.com> wrote:

:
:Point of order that's *Bud* Lite. And I think I will, thank ya veddy much
:....
:

And thus we see proof that Nilita is indeed not Scottish.

I, on the other hand, am enjoying a few Oatmeal Stouts this evening...

Adam Whyte-Settlar

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"Nebulous" <ja...@pigtail.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 13:26:31 +1000, "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"La N" <nilita20...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:cb6%m.59696$PH1.5781@edtnps82...
>>>S Viemeister wrote:
>>>> Cory Bhreckan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's one the Missus took, we were on our way back from Durness. I
>>>>> had turned the car around and head back up the hill for the shot.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://mysite.verizon.net/coryvreckan/images/Ullapool_n.jpg
>>>>>
>>>> There are often fabulous rainbows there.
>>>
>>> I reiterate: that is breathtakingly beautiful country. So peaceful
>>> looking too, away from the cacaphonous troubles of the world.
>>
>>Youwould probably like this spot.
>>I used to go fishing with my Dad on this very spot at around the time this
>>picture was taken.
>>
>>http://www.oldukphotos.com/graphics/Scotland%20Photos/Ross-shire,%20Plockton%201960%27s.jpg
>>
>>Same place from higher up
>>http://www.plocktoncottages.co.uk/images/plockton_full.jpg
>>
>
> You getting homesick?

Don't really have a home to get sick for.

Nice spot. Looks like the set for 'Local Hero'.


Adam Whyte-Settlar

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"La N" <nilita20...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:
>> "La N" <nilita20...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:cb6%m.59696$PH1.5781@edtnps82...
>>> S Viemeister wrote:
>>>> Cory Bhreckan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's one the Missus took, we were on our way back from Durness. I
>>>>> had turned the car around and head back up the hill for the shot.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://mysite.verizon.net/coryvreckan/images/Ullapool_n.jpg
>>>>>
>>>> There are often fabulous rainbows there.
>>>
>>> I reiterate: that is breathtakingly beautiful country. So peaceful
>>> looking too, away from the cacaphonous troubles of the world.
>>
>> Youwould probably like this spot.
>> I used to go fishing with my Dad on this very spot at around the time
>> this picture was taken.
>>
>> http://www.oldukphotos.com/graphics/Scotland%20Photos/Ross-shire,%20Plockton%201960%27s.jpg
>
>
> Is that a castle in the background?

It's Scotland.
OF Course it's a castle in the background.

I think it's called Castle Duart (?)


Nebulous

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Very close actually. Pennan is only about 5 miles East.

Neb

Adam Whyte-Settlar

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"Nebulous" <ja...@pigtail.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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>>
>>Nice spot. Looks like the set for 'Local Hero'.
>
>
> Very close actually. Pennan is only about 5 miles East.

Ah yes - Pennan. That name was lurking somewhere in the profoundnesses of my
psycho.
One can whiff the aura from here.
All those vandals peeing in the iconic phone box one presumes.

Robert Peffers

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"La N" <nilita20...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> La N wrote:
>> >>>
>>> There has just been a TV series done by a bonnie red headed English
>>> girl named Vanessa Collingridge.
>>> She starts her presentation saying she is a Geographer who has
>>> travelled the World to view the wonders and that she came to
>>> Scotland, fell in love with it and stayed on. She claims Scotland can
>>> top anywhere in the World. She then goes on to prove it with the
>>> finest video film of Scotland I have ever seen and I've been shooting
>>> film and video of Scotland since the 1950s.
>>> You can see a sample of youtube
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22RJ5ycktsQ
>>>
>>> Wonderful stuff.
>>
>> Thanks, Mr. Peffers. I'm watching it right now. As I have
>> mentioned, my brother lived in Scotland for several years and really
>> really loved it and especially the scenery.
>>
>
>
> Really nice segment on the Lochnagar Distillery at the end. Made me
> thirsty, and I don't even really like Scotch ...;p
>
> - nil
>
It was a three part series and that part probably showed the least
spectacular views of Scotland.
The other parts are probable on YouTube too.
There is an ITV player but it may be, like the BBC Player, restricted to the
UK.
http://www.homecomingscotland2009.com/news/scotland-revealed.html

I tried to access the link but it said it was temporarily unavailable.
--

Auld Bob


Robert Peffers

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"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
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I thought the place where they hated the English most was Bradford.
--

Auld Bob


Jeffrey Hamilton

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It looks beautiful, is it however home to those little (1 cm) jellyfish ? Or
is the water relatively safe ? <g>

cheers.....Jeff


Jeffrey Hamilton

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Beautiful shots, Adam, I enjoy looking at all various locales of Scotland,
each has it's own beauty to my eyes.

cheers.....Jeff


Jeffrey Hamilton

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Absolutely stunning, with everything I like, a view of both water _and_
mountains. I could easily live there and be content.

cheers.....Jeff


Jeffrey Hamilton

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That's what I was thinking too.

cheers....Jeff


Ian Smith

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On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 15:15:59 -0500, Jeffrey Hamilton couldnae haud thur
wheesht ony mair an' gied us this:

Seconded. It's certainly a world away from the hustle and bustle of city
life. Now, if I could just sort out this "becoming independently wealthy"
problem. :-)


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Robert Peffers

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"Jeffrey Hamilton" <bbere...@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
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The great wonder of Scotland is the changes that happen in such short
distances. Go a couple of miles and the scene is so different.
Turn a corner and a new kind of vista comes in sight. Take one wee lesser
known corner of Scotland. Drive up the Clifton Road from Newbridge and you
see a sign for the Union Canal Basin. Here is a viaduct over the River
Almond with a sluice gate that tumbles water from the canal down into the
Almond. The stonework is something to see. Now take a walk up the River and
you come into the beautiful Almondvale, (now a park). Now drive a few miles
past Kirknewton to, "The Lang Whang", (Edinburgh Lanark road", and there is
heather moorland stretching for miles. All within a very few miles.
--

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Fifeshire Floozie

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Fifeshire Floozie

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"Robert Peffers" <peff...@btinternet.com> wrote
>> La N wrote:
>>>"Robert Peffers" wrote

>>>> There has just been a TV series done by a bonnie red headed
>>>> English
>>>> girl named Vanessa Collingridge.
>>>> She starts her presentation saying she is a Geographer who has
>>>> travelled the World to view the wonders and that she came to
>>>> Scotland, fell in love with it and stayed on. She claims Scotland
>>>> can
>>>> top anywhere in the World. She then goes on to prove it with the
>>>> finest video film of Scotland I have ever seen and I've been
>>>> shooting
>>>> film and video of Scotland since the 1950s.
>>>> You can see a sample of youtube
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22RJ5ycktsQ
>>>>
>>>> Wonderful stuff.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Mr. Peffers. I'm watching it right now. As I have
>>> mentioned, my brother lived in Scotland for several years and
>>> really
>>> really loved it and especially the scenery.

> It was a three part series and that part probably showed the least

> spectacular views of Scotland.
> The other parts are probable on YouTube too.

No such luck Bob. I checked.

> There is an ITV player but it may be, like the BBC Player,
> restricted to the UK.

It is.

> http://www.homecomingscotland2009.com/news/scotland-revealed.html

Adam Whyte-Settlar

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"Jeffrey Hamilton" <bbere...@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
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You'd have to be out of your mind to dip a toe in it IMO.
That doesn't stop countless tourists and locals alike being stung, eaten,
half-eaten and otherwise generaly maimed amd killed every year.
It's even more dangerous on land with 20 of the world's most venemous
snakes, spiders, frogs, plants, birds(!), shellfish(!!!), and every other
kind of carbon based killing machine known to man all native to the region.
It IS stunningly beautifull though. The pictures don't really do it justice.
Going sailing out around the Great Barrier Reef was pretty amazing, classic
crystal-clear ultra-marine waters and cartoon islands, and there are
untouched tropical rainforests where you can paddle a boat up miles
up-river. (If the 5M crocs don't get you).
We used to go to that beach in the picture quite often - there was a
sea-food restaurant there that wasn't quite as disgusting as most others.
Never went in the water however.


Adam Whyte-Settlar

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"Jeffrey Hamilton" <bbere...@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
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> Beautiful shots, Adam, I enjoy looking at all various locales of Scotland,
> each has it's own beauty to my eyes.


I will just indulge myself with one more spot I lived.
This was the view from my lounge window when I rented a huge old farmhouse
right next to Duffus Castle near Elgin about ten years ago.

http://c2.api.ning.com/files/*yHvFsFGL0YI6coA7cWToPIxut9XbyRMgU-mXCYFzqKyhndpgd6qeB9-kIWJpoahFZBIs-KIflbnTaPLD3pZ1GSt7Uq1ZfOh/112988223.lJoknFW5.DuffusRapebed.jpg

I've always been 'lucky' with regard to homes I've had.

That place was just astounding at certain times of the year. It rises from a
huge flat marshland that was drained centuries ago but the sea haar still
rolls and swirls in ten feet deep on full moon nights and the flocks of bats
wheel around the ruins and the curlews call. You couldn't make it up. The
kids of the family used to love coming to visit as you might imagine. It's
pretty remote and gets very few visitors so they would have the entire
ruined castle as their private playground.


Adam Whyte-Settlar

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I like Dysart - especially in the winter.
IIRC there was a good fish restaureant there too.


Adam Whyte-Settlar

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: ).
Yeah - but they make the best Lamb Madras in the world so it's worth the
risk.

Fifeshire Floozie

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"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote
> "Fifeshire Floozie" <htr.@faeFife.com> wrote in

>> My hometown :)

>> http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/kirkcaldy/dysart/index.html
>
> I like Dysart - especially in the winter.
> IIRC there was a good fish restaureant there too.

For such a wee place, we had *six* of them! All them pretty good.

Scotty

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wrote:

Wow, very picturesque, although all fishing towns are special, Neb's as
well, especially if they also have yachts :-)

It might interest some to note that those two yachts on the jetty have two
keels, most often found in areas where there is a large tidal range.
If you are caught on a falling tide, the yacht just settles on its twin
keels and doesn't fall over.

conwaycaine

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Is that where the vacuum cleaner man is from?


Josiah Jenkins

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Herbert Hoover, the FBI guy, invented the vacuum ?

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deem...@aol.com

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On Jan 2, 12:53 pm, Josiah Jenkins <josiah-

jenkins@somewhere_else.invalid> wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 11:44:04 -0500, "conwaycaine"
>
>
>
>
>
> <conwayca...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> >"Fifeshire Floozie" <h...@faeFife.com> wrote in message
> >news:7q7kh2...@mid.individual.net...
> >> "Nebulous" <j...@pigtail.freeserve.co.uk> wrote

>
> >>> You getting homesick?
>
> >> Aye!
>
> >>> Here's mine.
>
> >>>http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/gardenstown/gardenstown/
>
> >>> Or
>
> >>>http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/gardenstown/crovie/index.html
>
> >>> half a mile away on a coastal path.
>
> >> Affa bra Neb.
>
> >> My hometown :)
> >>http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/kirkcaldy/dysart/index.html
>
> >Is that where the vacuum cleaner man is from?
>
> Herbert Hoover, the FBI guy, invented the vacuum ?
>

Nah, it was J. Edgar Hoover when he was President.....he invented
the vacuum cleaner which put all the maids out of work and started the
Great Depression.

Deirdre Sholto Douglas

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Herbert Hoover was the 31st president..._J. Edgar_ Hoover
was the cross-dressing FBI guy...the vacuum guy was William
Henry Hoover (who shouted "Eureka!" as he stole Spangler's
invention, no doubt.)

Deirdre

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James Silverton

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deem...@aol.com wrote on Sat, 2 Jan 2010 10:07:36 -0800 (PST):

> On Jan 2, 12:53 pm, Josiah Jenkins <josiah-
> jenkins@somewhere_else.invalid> wrote:
>> On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 11:44:04 -0500, "conwaycaine"
>>
>> <conwayca...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
> >> "Fifeshire Floozie" <h...@faeFife.com> wrote in message
> >> news:7q7kh2...@mid.individual.net...
> >>> "Nebulous" <j...@pigtail.freeserve.co.uk> wrote
>>
> >>>> You getting homesick?
>>
> >>> Aye!
>>
> >>>> Here's mine.
>>
> >>>> http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/gardenstown/gardenstown/
>>
> >>>> Or
>>
> >>>> http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/gardenstown/crovie/index.html
>>
> >>>> half a mile away on a coastal path.
>>
> >>> Affa bra Neb.
>>
> >>> My hometown :)
> >>> http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/kirkcaldy/dysart/index.html
>>
> >> Is that where the vacuum cleaner man is from?
>>
>> Herbert Hoover, the FBI guy, invented the vacuum ?
>>

Are you ever mixed up ? :-) Cross-dressing Jedgar was never President!
Herbert Hoover was the first student at Stanford, a very successful
geologist and engineer (and a lousy president) but he was not connected
with the Hoover Vacuum company.

--

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Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

deem...@aol.com

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On Jan 2, 1:32 pm, "James Silverton" <not.jim.silver...@verizon.net>
wrote:

Sigh

Nebulous

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There aren't really huge tidal ranges on the East Coast of Scotland,
but there are a lot of tidal harbours. Very few of the natural areas
for harbours were deep enough, and creating a deep-water harbour was
very expensive - so my forebears all spent their lives dominated by
the tide.

Of course a lot of the smaller places had nothing you could call a
harbour at all, and just beached their boats.

Neb

Josiah Jenkins

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At least they *were* all called Hoover !

Unlike Dysart and Dyson !!!
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Josiah Jenkins

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On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 13:32:44 -0500, "James Silverton"
<not.jim....@verizon.net> wrote:
> deem...@aol.com wrote on Sat, 2 Jan 2010 10:07:36 -0800 (PST):
>> On Jan 2, 12:53 pm, Josiah Jenkins <josiah- wrote:
>>> On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 11:44:04 -0500, "conwaycaine"
>>> <conwayca...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> >> "Fifeshire Floozie" <h...@faeFife.com> wrote in message
>>>
>> >>> My hometown :)
>> >>> http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/kirkcaldy/dysart/index.html
>>>
>> >> Is that where the vacuum cleaner man is from?
>>>
>>> Herbert Hoover, the FBI guy, invented the vacuum ?
>>>
>Are you ever mixed up ? :-)

What do you think ?
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Cory Bhreckan

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Jan 2, 2010, 5:41:26 PM1/2/10
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Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:
> "Jeffrey Hamilton" <bbere...@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
> news:0qs%m.314$%P5....@newsfe21.iad...
>> Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:
>>> "La N" <nilita20...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:bya%m.59762$PH1.44448@edtnps82...
>>>
>>>>>> Gorgeous!!! I can't believe Adam gave up this kind of scenery to
>>>>>> live in the hellish climes of Oz.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - nilita
>>>>> Simple, Adam goes where the *purse* market is.
>>>>>
>>>> Good point. Nobody to "fleece" in Scotland ... save *sheep* .. :)
>>>> :) :)
>>> It was hellish living here for sure.
>>> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/Port_douglas_qld_australia.jpg
>>>
>>> The weather is only crap for about 3 months (too hot) the rest of the
>>> time it's just perfect.
>> It looks beautiful, is it however home to those little (1 cm) jellyfish ?
>> Or is the water relatively safe ? <g>
>
> You'd have to be out of your mind to dip a toe in it IMO.
> That doesn't stop countless tourists and locals alike being stung, eaten,
> half-eaten and otherwise generaly maimed amd killed every year.
> It's even more dangerous on land with 20 of the world's most venemous
> snakes, spiders, frogs, plants, birds(!), shellfish(!!!), and every other
> kind of carbon based killing machine known to man all native to the region.

The one thing they *don't* have is venomous lizards.


--
"For the stronger we our houses do build,
The less chance we have of being killed." - William Topaz McGonagall

Cory Bhreckan

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Nebulous wrote:
> On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 16:12:19 +0200, Scotty <nob...@home.net> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 20:06:34 -0500, "Fifeshire Floozie" <htr.@faeFife.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "Nebulous" <ja...@pigtail.freeserve.co.uk> wrote
>>>
>>>> You getting homesick?
>>> Aye!
>>>
>>>> Here's mine.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/gardenstown/gardenstown/
>>>>
>>>> Or
>>>>
>>>> http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/gardenstown/crovie/index.html
>>>>
>>>> half a mile away on a coastal path.
>>> Affa bra Neb.
>>>
>>> My hometown :)
>>> http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/kirkcaldy/dysart/index.html
>> Wow, very picturesque, although all fishing towns are special, Neb's as
>> well, especially if they also have yachts :-)
>>
>> It might interest some to note that those two yachts on the jetty have two
>> keels, most often found in areas where there is a large tidal range.
>> If you are caught on a falling tide, the yacht just settles on its twin
>> keels and doesn't fall over.
>
> There aren't really huge tidal ranges on the East Coast of Scotland,

The tidal drop is around 6 metres in the Northwest.

> but there are a lot of tidal harbours. Very few of the natural areas
> for harbours were deep enough, and creating a deep-water harbour was
> very expensive - so my forebears all spent their lives dominated by
> the tide.
>
> Of course a lot of the smaller places had nothing you could call a
> harbour at all, and just beached their boats.
>
> Neb

Cory Bhreckan

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Think twice before you answer.

Nebulous

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On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 17:46:11 -0500, Cory Bhreckan
<coryvreckan@nospam_verizon.net> wrote:

>Nebulous wrote:
>> On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 16:12:19 +0200, Scotty <nob...@home.net> wrote:

>>> It might interest some to note that those two yachts on the jetty have two
>>> keels, most often found in areas where there is a large tidal range.
>>> If you are caught on a falling tide, the yacht just settles on its twin
>>> keels and doesn't fall over.
>>
>> There aren't really huge tidal ranges on the East Coast of Scotland,
>
>The tidal drop is around 6 metres in the Northwest.

would you consider that to be big?

This page suggests the biggest difference high to low in the next 7
days for Banff is about 3.5 metres.

http://easytide.ukho.gov.uk/EasyTide/EasyTide/ShowPrediction.aspx?PortID=0247&PredictionLength=7

Aberdeen is about 4 metres. Anstruther almost 5.

Neb

Scotty

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On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 21:09:01 +0000, Nebulous <ja...@pigtail.freeserve.co.uk>
wrote:

Yep, I thought it might be some local phenomenon, more likely with Helen's
hometown the harbor is too small and the boats have to be dragged out and
left on the "hard" and not needing a cradle.

I was actually on a yacht once that was caught short, it's was very bumpy
while the tide was going out until the boat finally settled and then a
repeat performance when the tide came in again, not my boat and I wasn't
navigating! Fortunately we had a good stock of beer on board... Those two
at Dysart look like Vivacity's

http://www.yachtsnet.co.uk/archives/vivacity-24/vivacity-24.htm

The Phantom Piper

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On Jan 2, 9:53 am, Josiah Jenkins <josiah-

jenkins@somewhere_else.invalid> wrote:
>
> Herbert Hoover, the FBI guy, invented the vacuum ?

'J. Edgar', you mean, not Herbert - and no: he
invented that *other* thing known as a 'Hoover'...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J_edgar_hoover#Sexuality

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=J.%20Edgar%20Hoover

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Hoover

(See definitions #2, #4, and #5)


Gee, Man...,

The Phantom Piper

Cory Bhreckan

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Nebulous wrote:
> On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 17:46:11 -0500, Cory Bhreckan
> <coryvreckan@nospam_verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Nebulous wrote:
>>> On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 16:12:19 +0200, Scotty <nob...@home.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>>>> It might interest some to note that those two yachts on the jetty have two
>>>> keels, most often found in areas where there is a large tidal range.
>>>> If you are caught on a falling tide, the yacht just settles on its twin
>>>> keels and doesn't fall over.
>>> There aren't really huge tidal ranges on the East Coast of Scotland,
>> The tidal drop is around 6 metres in the Northwest.
>
> would you consider that to be big?

Pretty much so, 19 feet is a pretty deep draft for most working boats.

>
> This page suggests the biggest difference high to low in the next 7
> days for Banff is about 3.5 metres.
>
> http://easytide.ukho.gov.uk/EasyTide/EasyTide/ShowPrediction.aspx?PortID=0247&PredictionLength=7
>
>
>
> Aberdeen is about 4 metres. Anstruther almost 5.
>
> Neb

Fifeshire Floozie

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"Scotty" <nob...@home.net> wrote in message
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> Yep, I thought it might be some local phenomenon, more likely with
> Helen's
> hometown the harbor is too small and the boats have to be dragged
> out and
> left on the "hard" and not needing a cradle.

A couple of aerial views Scotty ...
http://www.197aerial.co.uk/dysart_harbour.htm
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1143879

It accomodated large sailing ships when salt and coal were traded with
Scandinavia and the Low Countries in years gone by. Boat building was
also carried on.

This picture was taken in 2003 when the harbour was in danger of being
closed because of silting caused by redd from the local coal mine, the
Francis Colliery.
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/19019 Dysart Sailing Club
spearheaded a movement to convert the harbour into a yachting centre
and the money to clean up the harbour was raised through private
donations and grants. It's a pleasure to walk around these days but
having said that, we spent many happy hours climbing down into the
inner harbour when the tide was out and walking barfit to feel the
glaur squish atween oor taes ;-)

Fifeshire Floozie

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"Scotty" <nob...@home.net> wrote

> "Fifeshire Floozie" <htr.@faeFife.com> wrote:
>>Affa bra Neb.
>>
>>My hometown :)
>>http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/kirkcaldy/dysart/index.html
>
> Wow, very picturesque, although all fishing towns are special, Neb's
> as
> well, especially if they also have yachts :-)
>
> It might interest some to note that those two yachts on the jetty
> have two
> keels, most often found in areas where there is a large tidal range.
> If you are caught on a falling tide, the yacht just settles on its
> twin
> keels and doesn't fall over.

Back when I was a kid, my Dad (who had salt water running through his
veins) was one of a crew who sailed in the Dysart Regatta every year.
The town was quite famous for its yawls.

"Published Date: 07 June 2007
By MIKE RANKIN
FIFTY or so years ago, half a dozen Dysart yawls appeared in St
Andrews Harbour.
Their arrival marked the origins of St Andrews Sailing Club which will
celebrate its half century next weekend."

"Dysart yawls are locally built wooden racing yachts with a long
pedigree. Five are moored in Dysart harbour at Kirkcaldy, Fife, and a
sixth is in the Scottish Fisheries Museum at Anstruther, and they date
from the 1930s and 1940s."

Josiah Jenkins

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On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 16:56:29 -0800 (PST), The Phantom Piper
<ThePhan...@comcast.net> wrote:

>Josiah Jenkins <josiah-jenkins@somewhere_else.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> Herbert Hoover, the FBI guy, invented the vacuum ?
>
>'J. Edgar', you mean, not Herbert - and no: he
>invented that *other* thing known as a 'Hoover'...
>
>
>Gee, Man...,
>
Dearie, dearie, me !

It would appear from the responses that the Left Ponders
(Cory excepted) are under the impression that I was
ignorant (in the true sense of the word) on the matter
of Hoovers or have had a humor by-pass operation.

Recall this exchange started with confusion between
the town of Dys_ART and (James) Dys_ON !

I posted in the belief that if we're going to have
confusion over names, it should be *total*.

I would have mentioned Christopher Cockerell
but that was a 'hover' rather than a 'hoover'.
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deem...@aol.com

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On Jan 2, 9:47 pm, Josiah Jenkins <josiah-
jenkins@somewhere_else.invalid> wrote:

Some of us got it. (It's not as funny if you have to explain it)

Deirdre Sholto Douglas

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Jan 2, 2010, 10:43:57 PM1/2/10
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Josiah Jenkins wrote:

> I posted in the belief that if we're going to have
> confusion over names, it should be *total*.

You succeeded. :-)

I expect it's because folks read your post and didn't
read the quoted material...I can't speak for others, but
Conway's (was it Conway? The attributions seem to
say so) original post still hasn't appeared on my news-
reader.

Deirdre

________________
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enemy action.

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"Cory Bhreckan" <coryvreckan@nospam_verizon.net> wrote in message
news:hhoi7j$v3$1...@news.eternal-september.org...

They don't need to be venomous - they'll just rip your throat out in an
instant.

http://www.draconian.com/dragons/Images/Komodo%20Dragon/otto-dragon-attack.jpg


The Phantom Piper

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On Jan 2, 6:47 pm, Josiah Jenkins <josiah-

jenkins@somewhere_else.invalid> wrote:
>
> Recall this exchange started with confusion between
> the town of Dys_ART and (James) Dys_ON !

Eh? I missed the Dysart/Dyson thing entirely;
as for your Hooverisms: I suspected as much,
but then just ignoring it wouldn't have made the
bit about how badly he Sucked as funny, would
it have? */8~D


Having No Respect,

The Phantom Piper

Fred J. McCall

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Jan 3, 2010, 9:47:25 AM1/3/10
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Josiah Jenkins <josiah-jenkins@somewhere_else.invalid> wrote:

:On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 11:44:04 -0500, "conwaycaine"

:

Herbert Hoover was the President of the United States guy. J. Edgar
Hoover was the FBI guy.

--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
-- Thomas Jefferson

Fred J. McCall

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"deem...@aol.com" <deem...@aol.com> wrote:

:On Jan 2, 12:53�pm, Josiah Jenkins <josiah-
:jenkins@somewhere_else.invalid> wrote:
:>
:> Herbert Hoover, the FBI guy, invented the vacuum ?


:>
:>
:
: Nah, it was J. Edgar Hoover when he was President.....he invented
:the vacuum cleaner which put all the maids out of work and started the
:Great Depression.

:

And he only did it so that the price of all those 'French Maid'
outfits would go down so that he could complete his wardrobe.


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-- Professor Walsh, "Buffy the Vampire Slayer"

deem...@aol.com

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On Jan 3, 9:48 am, Fred J. McCall <fjmcc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> "deemsb...@aol.com" <deemsb...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> :On Jan 2, 12:53 pm, Josiah Jenkins <josiah-:jenkins@somewhere_else.invalid> wrote:
>
> :>
> :> Herbert Hoover, the FBI guy, invented the vacuum ?
> :>
> :>
> :
> :   Nah, it was J. Edgar Hoover when he was President.....he invented
> :the vacuum cleaner which put all the maids out of work and started the
> :Great Depression.
> :
>
> And he only did it so that the price of all those 'French Maid'
> outfits would go down so that he could complete his wardrobe.
>

Now that was funny.

Fred J. McCall

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Cory Bhreckan <coryvreckan@nospam_verizon.net> wrote:

:
:The one thing they *don't* have is venomous lizards.
:

What's wrong with venomous lizards? The colors are quite pretty on
Beaded Lizards and Gila Monsters.


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-- Buffy, the Vampire Slayer

Fred J. McCall

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"deem...@aol.com" <deem...@aol.com> wrote:

:On Jan 2, 9:47�pm, Josiah Jenkins <josiah-

:

I suspected it was meant humourously, but one can never been sure on
Usenet, what with so many abysmally ignorant gits posting to it.

conwaycaine

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"Josiah Jenkins" <josiah-jenkins@somewhere_else.invalid> wrote in message
news:6u1vj519s7v3jkodi...@4ax.com...

> On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 11:44:04 -0500, "conwaycaine"
>>"Fifeshire Floozie" <htr.@faeFife.com> wrote in message
>>news:7q7kh2...@mid.individual.net...

>>> My hometown :)


>>> http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/kirkcaldy/dysart/index.html
>>
>>Is that where the vacuum cleaner man is from?
>

> Herbert Hoover, the FBI guy, invented the vacuum ?

No, Dysart, the vacuum cleaner man who is all over American TV with his
roller ball vacuum cleaners and his twinkly blue eyes.
(A bit obscure, doc, if I may say so)


conwaycaine

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"Deirdre Sholto Douglas" <finch.e...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:7q9ghf...@mid.individual.net...

> Josiah Jenkins wrote:
>> On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 11:44:04 -0500, "conwaycaine"
>> <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>>> "Fifeshire Floozie" <htr.@faeFife.com> wrote in message
>>> news:7q7kh2...@mid.individual.net...
>>>> "Nebulous" <ja...@pigtail.freeserve.co.uk> wrote
>>>>
>>>>> You getting homesick?
>>>> Aye!
>>>>
>>>>> Here's mine.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/gardenstown/gardenstown/
>>>>>
>>>>> Or
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/gardenstown/crovie/index.html
>>>>>
>>>>> half a mile away on a coastal path.
>>>> Affa bra Neb.
>>>>
>>>> My hometown :)
>>>> http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/kirkcaldy/dysart/index.html
>>> Is that where the vacuum cleaner man is from?
>>
>> Herbert Hoover, the FBI guy, invented the vacuum ?
>
> Herbert Hoover was the 31st president..._J. Edgar_ Hoover
> was the cross-dressing FBI guy...the vacuum guy was William
> Henry Hoover (who shouted "Eureka!" as he stole Spangler's
> invention, no doubt.)

And not a word about Dysart in all these exchanges????


conwaycaine

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"Josiah Jenkins" <josiah-jenkins@somewhere_else.invalid> wrote in message
news:8e00k516dfgu2j1f7...@4ax.com...

> On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 16:56:29 -0800 (PST), The Phantom Piper
>>Josiah Jenkins <josiah-jenkins@somewhere_else.invalid> wrote:
>
> Recall this exchange started with confusion between
> the town of Dys_ART and (James) Dys_ON !

Now, dad burn it, his name was Dysart last week, not Dyson.
Why did he change?
Does he have something to hide??


conwaycaine

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Jan 3, 2010, 10:23:30 AM1/3/10
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"Deirdre Sholto Douglas" <finch.e...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:7qai3u...@mid.individual.net...

> Josiah Jenkins wrote:
>
>> I posted in the belief that if we're going to have
>> confusion over names, it should be *total*.
>
> You succeeded. :-)
>
> I expect it's because folks read your post and didn't
> read the quoted material...I can't speak for others, but
> Conway's (was it Conway? The attributions seem to
> say so) original post still hasn't appeared on my news-
> reader.

Yes, it was me.
My memory failed me yet again..................


Josiah Jenkins

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Jan 3, 2010, 10:31:59 AM1/3/10
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On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 22:24:44 -0800 (PST), The Phantom Piper
<ThePhan...@comcast.net> wrote:

>On Jan 2, 6:47�pm, Josiah Jenkins <josiah-
>jenkins@somewhere_else.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> Recall this exchange started with confusion between
>> the town of Dys_ART and (James) Dys_ON !
>
>Eh? I missed the Dysart/Dyson thing entirely;

Aaah, the after effects of 'drink taken' can be
a terrible thing . . .
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