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David O'Bedlam

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Jul 15, 2005, 11:03:10 PM7/15/05
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When I was growing up in America during the "Cold War" I heard about cheap
USSR vodka that had no cork or bottle cap, just a piece of wax paper or foil
or something held on by a string, so that once it was opened people felt
they had to drink it all up right away. Was that really true? If so, has
that been replaced in Russia by a cork or bottle cap since then?

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vkar...@yahoo.com

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Jul 16, 2005, 2:42:02 AM7/16/05
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David O'Bedlam wrote:
> When I was growing up in America during the "Cold War" I heard about cheap
> USSR vodka that had no cork or bottle cap, just a piece of wax paper or foil
> or something held on by a string, so that once it was opened people felt
> they had to drink it all up right away. Was that really true?
>

No. Nothing of the kind. Usual US mass media garbage.

>
>If so, has
> that been replaced in Russia by a cork or bottle cap since then?
>

Cork?! Where have you seen hard liquor like vodka sold with corks? You
can tell vodka from wine, cant' you?

It's caps.

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vkar...@yahoo.com

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Jul 16, 2005, 4:52:48 PM7/16/05
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DK wrote:

> In article <1121496122.9...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, vkar...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >David O'Bedlam wrote:
> >> When I was growing up in America during the "Cold War" I heard about cheap
> >> USSR vodka that had no cork or bottle cap, just a piece of wax paper or foil
> >> or something held on by a string, so that once it was opened people felt
> >> they had to drink it all up right away. Was that really true?
> >>
> >
> >No. Nothing of the kind. Usual US mass media garbage.
>
> What? Either you are very young and don't know USSR
> or you are lying. Yes, indeed, nearly all 0.5L cheap liquor
> bottles were closed with a strong foil cap
>

Foil cap? Can't you read the original post: "USSR vodka that had no
cork or bottle cap".

That is FALSE. Vodka had A CAP, as you yourself admit. In fact, a
STRONG CAP, as you say.

Was the metal sheet it was made of best characterized as "foil"? I am
not an expert on metalworks and vodka to know that.

Nor were any vodka caps made out of wax.

> that had to be
> broken in order to open the bottle. It was sometimes
> jokingly called "ukuporka pej do dna" (cap-drink-it-all).
>

Wow. I bow to your knowledge. You must be older than I. And have
interests different from mine.

>
> 0.8L bottles all had screw caps (but also usually higher
> quality vodka). It wasn't a sinister plot to make people drink more. It
> simply allowed to use very cheap and reusable glass
> bottles rather than more expensive and more prone
> to damage with a thread.


>
> >>
> >>If so, has
> >> that been replaced in Russia by a cork or bottle cap since then?
>
> >Cork?! Where have you seen hard liquor like vodka sold with corks? You
> >can tell vodka from wine, cant' you?
>

> Uh, off-hand I remember some bourbon and many different
> rums were corked.
>

You seem to be the expert. :-)

vkar...@yahoo.com

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Jul 16, 2005, 4:53:08 PM7/16/05
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> >David O'Bedlam wrote:
> >> When I was growing up in America during the "Cold War" I heard about cheap
> >> USSR vodka that had no cork or bottle cap, just a piece of wax paper or foil
> >> or something held on by a string, so that once it was opened people felt
> >> they had to drink it all up right away. Was that really true?
> >>
> >
> >No. Nothing of the kind. Usual US mass media garbage.
>
> What? Either you are very young and don't know USSR
> or you are lying. Yes, indeed, nearly all 0.5L cheap liquor
> bottles were closed with a strong foil cap
>

Foil cap? Can't you read the original post: "USSR vodka that had no
cork or bottle cap".

That is FALSE. Vodka had A CAP, as you yourself admit. In fact, a
STRONG CAP, as you say.

Was the metal sheet it was made of best characterized as "foil"? I am
not an expert on metalworks and vodka to know that.

Nor were any vodka caps made out of wax.

> that had to be
> broken in order to open the bottle. It was sometimes
> jokingly called "ukuporka pej do dna" (cap-drink-it-all).
>

Wow. I bow to your knowledge. You must be older than I. And have
interests different from mine.

>
> 0.8L bottles all had screw caps (but also usually higher
> quality vodka). It wasn't a sinister plot to make people drink more. It
> simply allowed to use very cheap and reusable glass
> bottles rather than more expensive and more prone
> to damage with a thread.
>
> >>

> >>If so, has
> >> that been replaced in Russia by a cork or bottle cap since then?
>
> >Cork?! Where have you seen hard liquor like vodka sold with corks? You
> >can tell vodka from wine, cant' you?
>

Alpha Male

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Jul 16, 2005, 5:47:36 PM7/16/05
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Obviously you are the expert on opening vodka bottles, durochka!

Also this seems to be a very sensitive topic for you. Are your supplies
running low?


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valtsu

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Jul 17, 2005, 1:25:12 AM7/17/05
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DK wrote:

> In article <1121547168.3...@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, vkar...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>>DK wrote:
>>
>>>In article <1121496122.9...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
>>
>>vkar...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>>>David O'Bedlam wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>When I was growing up in America during the "Cold War" I heard about cheap
>>>>>USSR vodka that had no cork or bottle cap, just a piece of wax paper or
>>
>>foil
>>
>>>>>or something held on by a string, so that once it was opened people felt
>>>>>they had to drink it all up right away. Was that really true?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>No. Nothing of the kind. Usual US mass media garbage.
>>>
>>>What? Either you are very young and don't know USSR
>>>or you are lying. Yes, indeed, nearly all 0.5L cheap liquor
>>>bottles were closed with a strong foil cap
>>>
>>
>>Foil cap? Can't you read the original post: "USSR vodka that had no
>>cork or bottle cap".
>>
>>That is FALSE. Vodka had A CAP, as you yourself admit. In fact, a
>>STRONG CAP, as you say.
>>
>>Was the metal sheet it was made of best characterized as "foil"? I am
>>not an expert on metalworks and vodka to know that.
>>
>>Nor were any vodka caps made out of wax.
>
>
> They were. Inside the foil cap there was a gasket/lining made,
> as the correctly stated by OP, from sort of waxed paper.
>
>
>>>0.8L bottles all had screw caps (but also usually higher
>>>quality vodka). It wasn't a sinister plot to make people drink more. It
>>>simply allowed to use very cheap and reusable glass
>>>bottles rather than more expensive and more prone
>>>to damage with a thread.
>>>
Once you ripped off the metal cap lined underneath by waxed paper you
could not close the bottle. The only practical way was to make a tight
roll of any paper and stuck it in the bottle to eliminate the vodka from
evaporating if you didn't consume the whole content of the bottle at once.

Back in the 70-s and 80-s all vodka bottles, even 0.5 ltr, sold in hard
currency in Beriozka shops had screwable caps while vodka bottles sold
in roubles did not. Customs officials at border crossing points used to
give a hard time for returning tourist if the had bottles bought in
roubles but hadn't changed money officially (currency exchange was
marked on the customs declaration). The vodka was confiscated and a fine
imposed in hard currency, quite often corresponding to the ammount of
hard currency in posession of the poor foreign tourist upon departure
from the USSR. It was a daily show at Torfyanovka, the Soviet customs
point used by Finnish so called vodka tourist returning to Finland after
a wild weekend in Leningrad financed by sale of a pair of jeans on the
black market.


>>>
>>>>>If so, has
>>>>>that been replaced in Russia by a cork or bottle cap since then?
>>>
>>>>Cork?! Where have you seen hard liquor like vodka sold with corks? You
>>>>can tell vodka from wine, cant' you?
>>>
>>>Uh, off-hand I remember some bourbon and many different
>>>rums were corked.
>>>
>>
>>You seem to be the expert. :-)
>
>

> I lived in Russia :-) And I also pay attention to things.
>
> DK

Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj

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Jul 18, 2005, 3:57:02 AM7/18/05
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David O'Bedlam wrote:

> When I was growing up in America during the "Cold War" I heard about cheap
> USSR vodka that had no cork or bottle cap, just a piece of wax paper or foil
> or something held on by a string, so that once it was opened people felt
> they had to drink it all up right away. Was that really true? If so, has
> that been replaced in Russia by a cork or bottle cap since then?
>

Well that's no diferent from bottles or cans of beer in the U.S.A. :-D :-p

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MTRP

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Aug 9, 2005, 5:01:35 PM8/9/05
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LOL. Morons O and O'Bedlamski both have no clue about Russian vodka.
But SCR honorable old yankee fart Brookski witnessed both Al Capone and
the Cold War ... hey Brookski, have the yanks ever smuggled Russian
vodka that had no cork or bottle cap?

o wrote:


> vkar...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > David O'Bedlam wrote:
> > > When I was growing up in America during the "Cold War" I heard about
> > > cheap USSR vodka that had no cork or bottle cap, just a piece of wax
> > > paper or foil or something held on by a string, so that once it was
> > > opened people felt they had to drink it all up right away. Was that
> > > really true?
> > No. Nothing of the kind. Usual US mass media garbage.

> Hey, fuckwit, I found you here too. You just like arguing for the sake
> of argument? Like other people said, that is absolutely true.

vkar...@yahoo.com

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Aug 9, 2005, 7:49:03 PM8/9/05
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o wrote:

> vkar...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> Hey, fuckwit, I found you here too. You just like arguing for the sake
> of argument?
>

Sometimes - yes. But only with those who are mentally capable of an
interesting argument. You are not among them. Have a good life.

>
> Like other people said, that is absolutely true.
>

> Keep playing a smart ass!

vkar...@yahoo.com

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Aug 9, 2005, 7:55:48 PM8/9/05
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MTRP wrote:
> LOL. Morons O and O'Bedlamski both have no clue about Russian vodka.
> But SCR honorable old yankee fart Brookski witnessed both Al Capone and
> the Cold War ... hey Brookski, have the yanks ever smuggled Russian
> vodka that had no cork or bottle cap?
>

No. Most American-made vodkas have strong caps in order to prevent the
buyers from detecting their repulsive smell.

SCR Insurgency

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Aug 9, 2005, 9:02:30 PM8/9/05
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"MTRP" <Mir.To...@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:1123618497....@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
: LOL. Morons O and O'Bedlamski both have no clue about Russian vodka.

: But SCR honorable old yankee fart Brookski witnessed both Al Capone and
: the Cold War ... hey Brookski, have the yanks ever smuggled Russian
: vodka that had no cork or bottle cap?
:

Why smuggle? Just make whatever you want. Beer, wine, hootch...that's what
kitchens are for.

:


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Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj

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Aug 10, 2005, 5:54:06 PM8/10/05
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vkar...@yahoo.com wrote:

> MTRP wrote:
>
>>LOL. Morons O and O'Bedlamski both have no clue about Russian vodka.
>>But SCR honorable old yankee fart Brookski witnessed both Al Capone and
>>the Cold War ... hey Brookski, have the yanks ever smuggled Russian
>>vodka that had no cork or bottle cap?
>>
>
>
> No. Most American-made vodkas have strong caps in order to prevent the
> buyers from detecting their repulsive smell.
>

:-p :-D ??????????????????? Really ?????? :-D :-p

Captain!

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Aug 11, 2005, 1:55:33 AM8/11/05
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brookski says:

i need to put down my purse,
take off my skirt,
dig the sand out of my vagina,
and have a good cry!


Ice Ice Davy

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Jan 13, 2010, 1:07:33 PM1/13/10
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In alt.thedavid vkar...@yahoo.com wrote:

> DK wrote:
>> vkar...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> >David O'Bedlam wrote:

>> >> When I was growing up in America during the "Cold War" I heard
>> >> about cheap USSR vodka that had no cork or bottle cap, just a
>> >> piece of wax paper or foil or something held on by a string, so
>> >> that once it was opened people felt they had to drink it all up
>> >> right away. Was that really true?

>> >No. Nothing of the kind. Usual US mass media garbage.
>>
>> What? Either you are very young and don't know USSR
>> or you are lying. Yes, indeed, nearly all 0.5L cheap liquor
>> bottles were closed with a strong foil cap
>
> Foil cap? Can't you read the original post: "USSR vodka that had no
> cork or bottle cap".

Read it again. Here, I'll repost what I'd said:

"no cork or bottle cap, just a piece of wax paper or foil or something"

> That is FALSE. Vodka had A CAP, as you yourself admit. In fact, a
> STRONG CAP, as you say.

So it was, as DK answered, "closed with a strong foil cap," though that
was probably stronger and thicker than what we Americans picture when
we think of "foil." (Thank you, DK, for your answer.)

And by the way, in the US several "premium" brands of whiskey are closed
with corks, such as Wild Turkey Bourbon (to name my favorite).

("Kids are always shooting their mouths off.")


D.

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Ice Ice Davy

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Jan 13, 2010, 1:12:23 PM1/13/10
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In alt.thedavid valtsu <timo.v...@xxxsaunalahti.fi> wrote:
[...]

> Once you ripped off the metal cap lined underneath by waxed paper you
> could not close the bottle. The only practical way was to make a tight
> roll of any paper and stuck it in the bottle to eliminate the vodka from
> evaporating if you didn't consume the whole content of the bottle at once.

That's pretty much what I'd heard, that you couldn't reseal the bottle,
though (again) it seems the "foil" cap was stronger than I was led to
believe.

[...]

> a wild weekend in Leningrad financed by sale of a pair of jeans on the
> black market.

That's something else I'd heard: that tourists/visitors could sell their
jeans there, often for more than what they'd originally cost.

Thnks, folks.

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Tiger Would

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Jan 16, 2010, 10:15:28 AM1/16/10
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On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 03:57:29 GMT, DK wrote:

> In article <85911$4b4e0be5$438d14c4$87...@ALLTEL.NET>, 'Ice Ice Davy' <thed...@null.invalid> wrote:


>>In alt.thedavid vkar...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>> That is FALSE. Vodka had A CAP, as you yourself admit. In fact, a
>>> STRONG CAP, as you say.
>>
>>So it was, as DK answered, "closed with a strong foil cap," though that
>>was probably stronger and thicker than what we Americans picture when
>>we think of "foil." (Thank you, DK, for your answer.)
>

> You are welcome. Wow, I can't believe it. This was a post
> FIVE YEARS AGO!
>
> It was surprisingly difficult to find a pictute but here it is:
> http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3506/andruru.23/0_3de84_aae2518c_L.jpg
>
> A heavy foil cap with a tab to open. In effect, a seal.
> Once opened, can't be used to recap. This sort of cap used
> to be called "ukuporka pej do dna" in Russian.
> ("The closure-drink-it-all" - coined by a writer/poet Vadim Shefner)
>
> DK

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