Wim Hof
Smanocle Dop
in schimb acest subiect real dintr-un interviu luat de BBC, lui dl.
Wim Hof.
Bineinteles, comentariile sunt binevenite, camarazilor!
"Muscle inability and a kind of paralysis can overcome you when you
are under the ice", says Wim Hof. "You have to feel energy and power
flowing through you-this is the only way to combat it." The Dutch
Sub-zero hero says he builds up his reserves of "energy and power"
months before a record attempt by practicing yoga, breathing
exercises, and positive visualization techniques. "This energy is
released during second attempt itself", explains Wim - who says his
next adventure will be to run from the frozen badlands of Russia to
the icy environs of Sweden, clad only in a pair of shorts."
'Wim Hof endured a tube filled with ice cubs sorrunding his body for
60 min 24 seconds. He only wore a bathing suit.'
'This week on "Guinness World Records: Primetime," things get down
right chilly as Wim Hof attempts to break his previous record for
full-body ice endurance. Wim's body will be completely submerged in
more than 450 pounds of ice and he must endure this extreme and
dangerous situation for longer than 30 minutes to break the record.
Then, we meet six-year-old Timothy and Celeste Keys - healthy twins
with an unprecedented beginning. Celeste and Timothy were born 95 days
apart and hold the record for the longest interval between birth of
twins. Next, Michael Blanks and Jesse Frankson try to kick their way
into the Guinness book. After smashing the current record for the
highest martial arts kick at 8 feet, 9 inches, the two square off in a
fierce competition - only one will go home a Guinness champion.
Finally, Guinness brings you exclusive footage of an extraordinary
find from the swampy bogs of Denmark - the best-preserved bog body
from prehistoric times. The body is more than 2,300 years old, and is
so well preserved, you can still see the whiskers on his face.'
'This event took place Wednesday 13th March, 2002
Wim Hof and Dr Havenith
Ice Man Wim Hof and physiologist Dr George Havenith joined us for a
Live Chat after the "ice sit-in" on Tomorrow's World and answered your
questions ...'
Question from Pete: What damage can this type of thing do to the body?
Dr Havenith: In an average person, the major surge of blood pressure
you would experience in the first couple of minutes could actually
damage your cardiovascular system. So if you had a weak blood vessel
somewhere in your body, for instance in your brain, that could burst.
In the longer term, when you cool down further, the actual low
temperature becomes a problem. If you cool down below 33 degrees
centigrade, your heart might start beating irregularly, and that would
cause problems. Especially for people becoming hypothermic in water,
this is very risky, because that would be a reason for them to drown.
Question from Alan Barnish: Is it possible for everyone to learn this
level of mind control?
Dr Havenith: No definitely not. Adaptation to cold varies dramatically
between people. Whereas some people have the capacity to adjust their
body and their mind to cope with the cold, many of us cannot.
Question from Daniel Pope: How long will Wim's body take to get back
to normal temperature?
Dr Havenith: Because his body temperature actually stays quite high,
above 35 degrees centigrade, and as he was shivering quite vigorously
when he came out, I would expect his body temperature to be back up
within an hour or so.
Question from Steven Dudson: How do you train to be able to withstand
these sort of temperatures?
Dr Havenith: You can only train by actually exposing yourself to those
temperatures. You really need to stretch your body regularly to induce
the responses Wim showed.
Question from Ben Tristem: Dr Havenith, how would you expect a fit and
determined, but otherwise unprepared, individual to respond in the
same situation?
Dr Havenith: The main thing I would expect is that even though the
person is determined, the pain he has never experienced before would
force him to stop quite soon. Apart from that, even a fit person
unaccustomed to the cold would not be able to produce as much heat in
his body as Wim does.
Question from Alek Hayes: Is there a possibility of your ... you know
... extremities ... getting hurt or damaged?
Dr Havenith: Yes. In Wim's case that actually is part of his
acclimatisation to cold that he can protect his extremities. If
unaccustomed to this cold, your extremities in the ice might actually
cool so far that you might actually experience frostbite.
Question from Gary Waldron: Could he have stayed in for much longer?
Dr Havenith: Given that his body temperature was still about 35
degrees centigrade, he could have stayed a lot longer before his life
would really be at risk. However, for reasons of safety, it was
decided beforehand, to stop the exposure at a body temperature of 35
degrees centigrade. Given that, I would have expected him to last
another twenty minutes before he would have reached the limit that was
set by the BBC.
Question from Khalid: What do you think of to help the time pass and
to ignore the pain?
Wim Hof: I just focused and get it all away, and go for my record.
Show that we can do more than we think.
Question from Michael Potter: What's the hardest part?
Wim Hof: The first impact can make you numb! It's a horrific feeling,
but on that you have to focus, and then it goes away.
Question from Lorraine Jones: Why don't you get frostbite?
Wim Hof: Because, like fish, I have a sort of anti-freeze. It is an
unstudied phenomena, but is natural in mankind. But as they do not
expose themselves to this cold, it is not working anymore. It's like
that with animals.
Question from Celia Oppeneim: What's the most daring thing you've ever
done?
Wim Hof: Having children! Many things. Every time I do a thing to the
limit, I have to be different and I have to be totally aware. Climbing
without climbing gear on steep rocks needs the same determination as
going to a tank and letting yourself be covered with ice cubes.
Question from Richard Rae: What is the difference between what Wim
did, and what David Blane did (standing in a block of ice for 3 days)?
Wim Hof: He stood 15 or 20 centimetres from the ice, he never had
direct contact, so I am not really impressed about his ice endurance!
I have deep respect for his having stood for three days but not for
the ice endurance!
Question from Drew Brook: What inspires you to do these things Wim? Do
you enjoy it?
Wim Hof: Yes, that's one part. But I also want to do it and it brings
me deep joy, deep feelings. Not joy as we know but deep feelings of
satisfaction. It's like the visions of Indians, or through the night
in the cold sleeping Aborigines. It's cold but the Aborigines sleep
without clothes. The Inuits in Greenland also do all kinds of
confrontations with the element cold. It's sort of the roots of man,
it's a natural high. You feel just good, and that's spirituality! No
drugs but your own! A nice Bacardi is also OK!
Question from Richard Simpson: Do you think you could go into a very
hot environment (like an oven!) and keep your body cool?
Wim Hof: Yes, I have the experience, because I am a mountain guide
during the summer. I don't drink all day. At a certain point, with a
heavy weight on me - a rucksack, working with people in 40 degrees
celsius in the Spanish sun, I just stop perspiring and I feel good,
although I don't drink - like a camel! Then at night I take a couple
of litres of liquids, with great joy - just like a camel! This is also
the natural capability of man. But as they're not exposed, they don't
find out about it anymore. The capability got lost, although it is
rudimentary. It's not developed and it's not visible.
Question from Helen Ramsey: Does pushing your body to such limits
actually strengthen the body, if these sort of exercises are done
regularly?
Wim Hof: Yes, it involves not only the body but also the mind. It
strengthens both, so I haven't got any frostbite although I did all
those things. It's actually making use of the body and mind in such a
way that you can improve and develop it. It's natural. This is a
different way of exposure towards these elements. Heat, cold, and
depletion of oxygen in places like the Himalayas, or swimming under
the ice, it's all ways of exposing your body and your mind. The mind
and body have to work together. We might have learned that a little
bit. I mirror with natural elements like height, cold, heat, no
oxygen. I follow the guide in myself, which is my feeling. He shows
me, I never had a teacher.
Question from Malcolm Stevens: When did you first learn you had this
'power'?
Wim Hof: When I opened up. When I was about 17. I became aware, wanted
more, opened up, and then I came to extremes and limits not normally
known. Man begins with a long jump, with what he knows, and he
improves and develops. Suddenly after a time he can do twice what he
did before. That's what we say is normal. In all these things we are
at the beginning. We can do so much more. We have never gone into this
before. We keep being at the beginning, while we can do a lot more.
After twenty years of training I do things much further than everybody
else. It's possible through the BBC, with doctors and physiologists,
to make studies. These shows are the eye to the world. We can make a
comparative study with rigid experimentation, collecting data and then
show humanity. It's an eye opener. There is more than we think.
Question from Pauline Hyland: Do you notice any effect on your body in
the days following an event like this?
Wim Hof: No, never. I take a half hour for recovery, but that's it. A
good shower, and it's all back to normal.
Question from Luke Shrubb: What is Wim's heart rate like at these
temperatures?
Dr Havenith: He started with a rate of around 70 and slowly, when he
cooled down, the heart rate rose as the activity showed in his body.
It rose to around 135 or 140 at the end. This reflects all the
mechanisms he uses to produce heat in the body, and those mechanisms
will need oxygen. The increased heart rate is necessary to transport
the oxygen to the heat-producing tissues.
Question from Derek Higbee: Are women or men better at standing these
extreme temperatures?
Dr Havenith: Basically women are on average better equipped to
withstand the cold, because they have more body fat. This acts as an
insulator, which protects the body core against cooling. However, the
response of the blood vessels in women is such that their skin cools
down quicker than that of men, and what you typically will find, even
at room temperature, is that women complain earlier about the cold
than men.
Question from Ben Tristem: Dr Havenith, it seems that the only way to
keep the extremities warm is to keep blood flowing to them. Does this
mean that Wim is overriding the body's natural urge to divert blood to
the core?
Dr Havenith: When you cool down, and your body core is still warm,
your skin cools, but when the skin temperature reaches about 10
degrees, you will actually open up the blood flow to your skin, to
prevent skin damage. After a brief period of re-warming, the blood
flow will close again, the skin will cool down again, and this cycle
may go on for quite a while. However, once this body core temperature
drops further, the physiology of the body will try to give priority to
the protection of your organs and brain, and this mechanism of skin
blood profusion will stop. In Wim's case, I think that his ability to
keep his body core temperature very high, will allow him to keep his
skin at a non-freezing temperature for longer.
Question from Clare C: It is said that we only use 10% of our brain.
Do you think that Wim is accessing some part of the brain which a
sedentary person is unable to do?
Dr Havenith: I haven't got a clue! Basically I'm not a brain
specialist, but from my experience I think that Wim's advantage is
more in occupying his mind with other things than the actual pain,
than that he actually would use more of his brain capacity.
Question from Jobie: Is it a case of learning to endure the pain or do
you really not feel anything?
Wim Hof: I've learned not to get rid of the pain, but to overcome it.
There is a greater force which can overcome the pain. The pain is a
signal of something going wrong, but if you resort to a power which is
greater, then you have overcome the pain. Pain is a thing that you can
always overcome. There are deeper levels other than pain.
Question from Tom Reid: What's the greatest danger in this stunt?
Wim Hof: To ignore signals such as pain, your own limit, and losing
control. I rely much on my experience but I always have to be
attentive. Don't lose awareness, that would be a great danger.
Question from Suki Wong: How many records do you hold?
Wim Hof: Registrated records, I have six now. But I've got a lot of
different things still to come, that have never been done. For
example, with the retention of breath after exhaling, stopping
inhalation at that point, and remain four and a half minutes without
oxygen! Totally exhaled. These are yoga techniques, but I learned them
by myself. I don't use books, although I write them. Another thing I
want to do, is climb Everest in shorts! I was there two years, and I
walked and ran all day long on the slopes, in shorts. Bare footed!
Question from Zoe Foster: Do you ever get scared?
Wim Hof: Yes, that's one of the signals. Don't ignore a signal, ever.
They are natural, but you can overcome them. You go deeper, and you
find a way to tranquilize that signal to your rational satisfaction.
BBC Host: Here are Wim and Dr Havenith with a final word...
Wim Hof: I hope I succeeded in showing that we can do more than we
think.
Dr Havenith: Tonight I had an enjoyable experience, because I was very
impressed with the way Wim handled the exposure. Scientifically for
me, it raised a number of questions, as to what level the physiology
versus the mind was responsible for what we saw.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/communicate/archive/wim_hof/page3.shtml
http://personal.inet.fi/urheilu/paihneenalentajat/uusi_sivu_2.htm
http://www.lmnotv.com/new/shows/gbr/eg/308/308.htm
Toata stima,
Smanocle Dop (zis Manu)
Aschiutza
>In loc de tampeniile care sunt afisate pe grup, voi afisa
>in schimb acest subiect real dintr-un interviu luat de BBC, lui dl.
>Wim Hof.
>
>
>Bineinteles, comentariile sunt binevenite, camarazilor!
>
>
>
>
>"Muscle inability and a kind of paralysis can overcome you when you
>are under the ice", says Wim Hof.
Si?? Ce-i cu asta? Crezi Woful asta care are antrenament la frig o sa reziste
si la bomba atomica?
WolfWolf
"Aschiutza" <asch...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030822231149...@mb-m13.aol.com...
Mai mult usor decat rezista anarhism ...
Leo Trotzki
Aschiutza
<myn...@email.net> writes:
Hotuleee, bagi strimbe!
In cazuri d-astea, io bag aschia! Sa vedem care tine mai mult!
WolfWolf
Englez, pliiiz. Mai mult dificil pentru debutanti ...
Rabbi Kebab
Aschiutza
>> Hotuleee, bagi strimbe!
>> In cazuri d-astea, io bag aschia! Sa vedem care tine mai mult!
>
>Englez, pliiiz. Mai mult dificil pentru debutanti ...
No, apai las ca-ti trece! Tudom?
WolfWolf
Calda sau rece?
Rabbi Kebab
Aschiutza
<myn...@email.net> writes:
>"Aschiutza" <asch...@aol.com> wrote in message
>> >> Hotuleee, bagi strimbe!
>> >> In cazuri d-astea, io bag aschia! Sa vedem care tine mai mult!
>> >
>> >Englez, pliiiz. Mai mult dificil pentru debutanti ...
>>
>> No, apai las ca-ti trece! Tudom?
>
>Calda sau rece?
Caliie!
WolfWolf
Merhaba sevgilim Aschie, nasilsin??
Rabbi Mehmet Kebab
Aschiutza
<myn...@email.net> writes:
>>"Aschiutza" <asch...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >> >> Hotuleee, bagi strimbe!
>> >> >> In cazuri d-astea, io bag aschia! Sa vedem care tine mai mult!
>> >> >
>> >> >Englez, pliiiz. Mai mult dificil pentru debutanti ...
>> >>
>> >> No, apai las ca-ti trece! Tudom?
>> >
>> >Calda sau rece?
>>
>>
>> Caliie!
>
>Merhaba sevgilim Aschie, nasilsin??
Asta suna de parca-i pe tiganeste! Ce limba e?
WolfWolf
Limba turca - hehehe!!
(Hello my dear Aschie, how are you?)
Louis-Lazare Zamenhof
Fredy
> "Aschiutza" <asch...@aol.com> wrote
> > >Merhaba sevgilim Aschie, nasilsin??
> >
> > Asta suna de parca-i pe tiganeste! Ce limba e?
>
> Limba turca - hehehe!!
> (Hello my dear Aschie, how are you?)
Ignoranta mai e boarfa
Aschiutza
>> Limba turca - hehehe!!
>> (Hello my dear Aschie, how are you?)
>
>Ignoranta mai e boarfa
Lasa ba Fredy, tu sa fii fericit ca stii limba turca, sau ce limba o fi asta!
Porcii mei nu vorbeste asa ceva!
Da' ia sa vedem daca tu intelegi ce zic eu acumi: sugi pula!
Aschiutza
<myn...@email.net> writes:
>> >>"Aschiutza" <asch...@aol.com> wrote in message
>> >>
>> >> >> >> Hotuleee, bagi strimbe!
>> >> >> >> In cazuri d-astea, io bag aschia! Sa vedem care tine mai mult!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Englez, pliiiz. Mai mult dificil pentru debutanti ...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> No, apai las ca-ti trece! Tudom?
>> >> >
>> >> >Calda sau rece?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Caliie!
>> >
>> >Merhaba sevgilim Aschie, nasilsin??
>>
>>
>> Asta suna de parca-i pe tiganeste! Ce limba e?
>
>Limba turca - hehehe!!
>(Hello my dear Aschie, how are you?)
>
>Louis-Lazare Zamenhof
Asta suna mai mult a limba turca vorbita de rusii de prin Polonia care au
luat-o in cur de la arabi.
Aschiutza Zeamanpula
WolfWolf
Baaaaa Aschiutza, esti ultra-poliglot???
"Arabic is a language, Persian is a sweetmeat; Turkish is an art" (Persian proverb)
Hi!! Hi!! Hi!!
Ali Baba
Gica Schpritzburgh
>Lasa ba Fredy, tu sa fii fericit ca stii limba turca,
o fi'nvatzat turceshte cand ierea atendant la baili turceshti din
costandinopole. :0)
gica
HAI SA BEM SI SA NE'NVESELIM !
Lupulusa
>From: "WolfWolf" myn...@email.net
>Date: 8/23/2003 12:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <bi8fnl$so2$1...@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com>
MAI LASATI DRACU LEOSTEANU CA NU SE`NTELEGE NIMIK.
Aschiutza
(Lupulusa) writes:
Pai vezi ce patesti daca nu vorbesti torceste?!?
Lupulusa
Adica ce facea ca atendant la baili turceshti? Aduna sapunele cazute pa jos? De
nu toti poa sa munceasca numa cu capu.
Spritzbeausinumaimbat