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Ethymology of the -scu suffix in Romanian surnames

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Vlad I

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Jan 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/22/99
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Hello everyone,

Having a Romanian name myself, I'm frequently confronted with the questions:

"Where does the -scu suffix come from in Romanian surnames? What does it mean?"

As I don't know the answer myself, I hereby forward the question to the
group, thankful in advance for all answers.

Yours sincerely,


Vlad Ionesco

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Alexandru Constantinescu

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Jan 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/22/99
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Hi Vlad,

I am not sure but I see that the slavic names end with "vski". I think
that the Romanian family names were under their influence. Other
scientist think that "escu" is an ancient genitive form. For instance
Ionescu = of Ion or Ion's ... maybe a few hundred years before you could
be Vlad [son] of Ion. In Moldova are very frequent names like Avladesei,
Apopii, which mean "of Vladeasa", "of Popa".

I am not a linguist so those are my oppinions and what I've heard in my
youth.

Best regards,

Sandu

PapuraVoda

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Jan 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/23/99
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In article <36A937...@total.net>, Alexandru Constantinescu
<san...@total.net> writes:

>In Moldova are very frequent names like Avladesei,
>Apopii, which mean "of Vladeasa", "of Popa".
>

The Moldavian names "Avladesei", "Adascalitei" etc originally meant that the
child who born that name had no father, i.e. was born out of wedlock.

mutud...@gmail.com

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Sep 5, 2015, 8:33:11 PM9/5/15
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On Friday, January 22, 1999 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-5, Vlad I wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> Having a Romanian name myself, I'm frequently confronted with the questions:
>
> "Where does the -scu suffix come from in Romanian surnames? What does it mean?"
>
> As I don't know the answer myself, I hereby forward the question to the
> group, thankful in advance for all answers.
>
> Yours sincerely,
>
>
> Vlad Ionesco
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> VLAD IONESCO, M.Sc., Lic.Tech. E-mail: vl...@gt.kth.se
> Royal Institute of Technology Phone: +46-8-790 69 91
> Media Technology and Graphic Arts Fax: +46-8-791 87 93
> SE-100 44 Stockholm, Sweden
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------

In Romanian the suffix of "escu" or just "scu" it simply means "son of" or "belongs to".
But that only afects the population directly born in specific regions in romania : Muntenia , oltenia . The romanians born in transilvania or moldova regions have sometimes surnames specific to the reagion.
Some romanian names like "amariei" or "aioanei" meaning "belongs to mary"or "belongs to ioana" where specifically for children born out of wedlock .
Other surnames in villages for poor families that had no hierarchical importance where named by trade or nickname ie: timplaru , macelarul,(carpenter,butcher) or basica,strigoi,etc
This way of attaching surnames is not specific to romania but is known through out europe with various endings like , russia " ov ' , serbia "vici" , iran + armenia "an", etc etc

I hope this helps.

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