250,000 Romanian gypsies deported to Nazi Germany

Preda Mihailescu

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Mircea wrote:

> BUCHAREST, April 29 (AFP) - More than a quarter of a million
> Romanian gypsies were deported to Nazi Germany during World War II,
> the head of the country's Romany Party said Wednesday.
> Of the more than 250,000 gypsies shipped out by Marshal Ion
> Antonescu's pro-Nazi regime only 10 percent survived, Nicolae Paun
> said.
> It is the first time a precise figure for the mass deportation
> has been made public.
> Gypsy leaders have demanded compensation from Romanian and
> German authorities, although Paun said his party had yet to evaluate
> the damages.
> Paun said the figure came from examining the archives of the
> communist-era secret police.
> However he said he believed the 250,000 figure only represents
> 60 percent of the real number of gypsies deported to a Germany where
> they were regarded as racially inferior and imprisoned in
> concentration camps.
> The gypsy community today is officially put at 400,000, but
> gypsies claim it is around the two million mark.

I used to know that Romanian gypsies were sent to Transnistria.
So now I learn that in fact, unlike romanian jews, they were sent
to Germany. Also, if we are to believe both the above and the
known estimates about the number of gypsy victims under the Germans
(about 700 000), more than half of them were comming from Romania.
(SBIBETN).

By the way, it is totally incorrect that the gypsy community is
officially put at 400 000 - the double was the result of the last
population census. Probably not the only incorrect data in this
release.

Now I am thinking: the third generation is now challenged to
pay for crimes happened 55 years ago, which are in contradiction
with the facts admitted so far about the subject and noone will
ever be able to prove. Then, despite of your opinion, Mircea, that
the communist crimes are burried under the vail of time, is it
not the minimum for this generation to do - care for a clear
justice for the crimes against our parents and grandparents,
which can still be proved ? I mean at least imposing world wide
the notion that the crime of negation of Gulag is to be treated
as severly as that of negation of Hollocaust ? Following the air
of the time, probably the seven eastern european countries should
put together a claim of zillions $ against Russia for the invasion,
and US and England for the betrayal. The sum should compensate
for the 50 years long human and economic consequences for 110
Million people. Just joking :-)
Seems however that this is the tune of the day, for gaining attention.

PM

Mircea

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On Thu, 30 Apr 1998 23:42:08 +0200, Preda Mihailescu <miha...@inf.ethz.ch>
wrote:

>By the way, it is totally incorrect that the gypsy community is
>officially put at 400 000 - the double was the result of the last
>population census.

The government's site, www.kappa.ro/guv/ presented once online statistical data
based on the 1992 census. I saved a printout that reads:

Gypsies 409,723 1.8%

>Seems however that this is the tune of the day, for gaining attention.

Everybody discovers nowadays that playing the "victim mentality" card pays
actually very well.

Mircea

NArden6114

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May 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/1/98

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In article <3548F030...@inf.ethz.ch>, Preda Mihailescu
<miha...@inf.ethz.ch> writes:

>By the way, it is totally incorrect that the gypsy community is
>officially put at 400 000 - the double was the result of the last

>population census. Probably not the only incorrect data in this
>release.

Could be even higher, if you consider the semnificativ percentaje of mixed
marriages btw. Roms and Rumanians. Nobody can know exactly how much Rom blood
has in its veins. And don't forget that many full blooded Roms were recordes
as.....Rumanians. These are things that I learned from Rumania when I lived
there.
Who knows?
Nick Arden
"NON MULTA SED MULTUM" [Quintilianus, Institutiones Oratoriae, X, 1, 59]

Preda Mihailescu

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May 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/1/98

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Mircea wrote:

> On Thu, 30 Apr 1998 23:42:08 +0200, Preda Mihailescu <miha...@inf.ethz.ch>
> wrote:
>

> >By the way, it is totally incorrect that the gypsy community is
> >officially put at 400 000 - the double was the result of the last
> >population census.
>

> The government's site, www.kappa.ro/guv/ presented once online statistical data
> based on the 1992 census. I saved a printout that reads:
>
> Gypsies 409,723 1.8%
>

I knew 700 000 - 800 000, I'll find oput when I go to Bucharest.

> >Seems however that this is the tune of the day, for gaining attention.
>
> Everybody discovers nowadays that playing the "victim mentality" card pays
> actually very well.
>

You are a neutral observer of the world theater, are you ? Where do you put racists
like the canadian in the picture ?

Preda

> Mircea

Mircea

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On Fri, 01 May 1998 14:24:46 +0200, Preda Mihailescu <miha...@inf.ethz.ch>
wrote:

>> The government's site, www.kappa.ro/guv/ presented once online statistical data

>> based on the 1992 census. I saved a printout that reads:
>>
>> Gypsies 409,723 1.8%
>>
>
>I knew 700 000 - 800 000, I'll find oput when I go to Bucharest.

I'm positive the correct figure for the 1992 census was the one I quoted above.
On the other hand, "Country Reports on Human Rights Practices for 1997," issued
by U.S. Department of State for Romania,

http://www.state.gov/www/global/human_rights/1997_hrp_report/romania.html

*estimates* the Rromai population "at approximately 2 million persons," without
stating any facts supporting this figure.

However, "CIA World Factbook 1997" data--visit the link

http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/ro.html

or see details below--appear based on the 1992 census.

>> Everybody discovers nowadays that playing the "victim mentality" card pays
>> actually very well.
>>
>You are a neutral observer of the world theater, are you ? Where do you put racists
>like the canadian in the picture ?

Wally Keeler is stupid, not racist; ignorant, not intolerant.

Mircea
----CIA World Factbook 1997----

Population: 22,463,077 (July 1997 est.)

Age structure:
0-14 years: 19% (male 2,223,136; female 2,130,497)
15-64 years : 68% (male 7,586,237; female 7,679,992)
65 years and over: 13% (male 1,186,948; female 1,656,267) (July 1997 est.)

Population growth rate: -0.28% (1997 est.)

Birth rate: 9.8 births/1,000 population (1997 est.)

Death rate: 11.75 deaths/1,000 population (1997 est.)

Net migration rate: -0.88 migrant(s)/1,000 population (1997 est.)

Sex ratio:
at birth: 1.05 male(s)/female
under 15 years: 1.04 male(s)/female
15-64 years : 0.99 male(s)/female
65 years and over: 0.72 male(s)/female
total population: 0.96 male(s)/female (1997 est.)

Infant mortality rate: 19.6 deaths/1,000 live births (1997 est.)

Life expectancy at birth:
total population: 70.11 years
male : 66.28 years
female: 74.13 years (1997 est.)

Total fertility rate: 1.23 children born/woman (1997 est.)

Nationality:
noun: Romanian(s)
adjective: Romanian

Ethnic groups: Romanian 89.1%, Hungarian 8.9%, German 0.4%, Ukrainian, Serb,
Croat, Russian, Turk, and Gypsy 1.6%

Religions: Romanian Orthodox 70%, Roman Catholic 6% (of which 3% are Uniate),
Protestant 6%, unaffiliated 18%

Languages: Romanian, Hungarian, German

Literacy:
definition: age 15 and over can read and write
total population: 97%
male : 98%
female: 95% (1992 est.)

>
>Preda
>
>> Mircea
>
>

Creative Intelligence Agency

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Mircea <mir...@enteract.com> wrote in article
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| On Thu, 30 Apr 1998 23:42:08 +0200, Preda Mihailescu
<miha...@inf.ethz.ch>

| The government's site, www.kappa.ro/guv/ presented once online
statistical data
| based on the 1992 census. I saved a printout that reads:
|
| Gypsies 409,723 1.8%

Do you believe this?

|
| >Seems however that this is the tune of the day, for gaining attention.
|

|Everybody discovers nowadays that playing the "victim mentality" card pays
|actually very well.

Worked for the Jews. Any objection?

| Mircea
|

Mircea

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On 1 May 98 21:29:44 GMT, "Creative Intelligence Agency" <poet...@idirect.com>
wrote:

>| The government's site, www.kappa.ro/guv/ presented once online
>statistical data
>| based on the 1992 census. I saved a printout that reads:
>|
>| Gypsies 409,723 1.8%
>
>Do you believe this?

Well, the same governmental source stated that the 1992 census "was organised
[...] in conformity with the right of every person to freely declare his/her
ethnic origin and mother tongue." Still, in recent years the Gypsy minority of
Romania seemed rather confused about its identity. Before 1989 many Gypsies from
Transylvania preferred to declare themselves ethnic Hungarians. Immediately
after december 1989, thousands of Rroms invaded Western Europe claiming to be
Romanian revolutionaries. Nowadays, some Rroms look quite fond of their
"oppressed minority" image.

To answer your question, I know of no other data; therefore, lack of supporting
evidence renders alternative believes as rather irrelevant.

>|Everybody discovers nowadays that playing the "victim mentality" card pays
>|actually very well.
>
>Worked for the Jews. Any objection?

I stated a fact, not my objection.

Mircea

Horia Sima

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Creative Intelligence Agency wrote in message
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>So the Jews played the "victim mentality". Any objection?

Yes they are no good. Just like you and the Gypsies.
They should have been all deported. We would not
have this problem today, would we?

Creative Intelligence Agency

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Mircea <mir...@enteract.com> wrote in article

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And unalternative beliefs as dubious.

| >|Everybody discovers nowadays that playing the "victim mentality" card
pays
| >|actually very well.
| >
| >Worked for the Jews. Any objection?
|
| I stated a fact, not my objection.

So the Jews played the "victim mentality". Any objection?

|
| Mircea
|

Mircea

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On 2 May 98 00:15:11 GMT, "Creative Intelligence Agency" <poet...@idirect.com>
wrote:

>So the Jews played the "victim mentality".

Is that your opinion?

Mircea

Creative Intelligence Agency

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Mircea <mir...@enteract.com> wrote:
|Creative Intelligence Agency wrote:
|>Mircea <mir...@enteract.com> wrote:

|>|Creative Intelligence Agency wrote:
|>|>|Everybody discovers nowadays that playing the "victim mentality" card
|>|>|pays actually very well.
|>|>
|>|>Worked for the Jews. Any objection?
|>|
|>|I stated a fact, not my objection.
|>

|>So the Jews played the "victim mentality". Any objection?
|
|Is that your opinion?

It's my question.

Creative Intelligence Agency

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Horia Sima <hs...@expert.ro> wrote
|Creative Intelligence Agency wrote

|>So the Jews played the "victim mentality". Any objection?
|

| Yes they are no good. Just like you and the Gypsies.
| They should have been all deported. We would not
| have this problem today, would we?

Any Romanians have any objections to this?

Drei

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Oh no, we're all arch crypto-fascists, just like all you Canadians are
gay !

Drei

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Horia Sima wrote:
>
> Creative Intelligence Agency wrote in message
> <01bd755f$37612c20$03ca...@ns.idirect.com>...

>
> >So the Jews played the "victim mentality". Any objection?
>
> Yes they are no good. Just like you and the Gypsies.
> They should have been all deported. We would not
> have this problem today, would we?

Objection over-ruled, you our of order nazi scumbag !

Drei

Horia Sima

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Drei <19...@strateg1.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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Shut up, and wipe the buggers out of your nose you twit.
If you feel rich, you can pay the tigan compensation for
whatever your grandfather has done to them.
Be nice if you considered leaving the rest of us out of
your schemes.

Creative Intelligence Agency

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Drei <19...@strateg1.demon.co.uk> wrote

|Horia Sima wrote:
|>Creative Intelligence Agency wrote

|>>So the Jews played the "victim mentality". Any objection?
|>
|>Yes they are no good. Just like you and the Gypsies.
|>They should have been all deported. We would not
|>have this problem today, would we?
|
|Objection over-ruled, you our of order nazi scumbag !

Second the motion.

Creative Intelligence Agency

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Horia Sima <hs...@expert.ro> wrote

|Shut up, and wipe the buggers out of your nose you twit.
|If you feel rich, you can pay the tigan compensation for
|whatever your grandfather has done to them.
|Be nice if you considered leaving the rest of us out of
|your schemes.

Why should you get your grandpappy's inheritance?
Turn the old fart in?

GFunar

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fagotburo pukes:

>Second the motion.

Who pays you to besmirch Romania, you foreign devil?

Creative Intelligence Agency

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Who pays you to besmirch homosexuals?, you Romaniac hemerroid?

GFunar <gfu...@aol.com> wrote in article
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NArden6114

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May 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/2/98

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In article <01bd757e$a2f164e0$c27f...@ns.idirect.com>, "Creative Intelligence
Agency" <poet...@idirect.com> writes:

>| Yes they are no good. Just like you and the Gypsies.
>| They should have been all deported. We would not
>| have this problem today, would we?

Yes, Sir, I have an objection to make. I think that "legionars",
"nationalists" and
"communists" should be all embarked on a space shuttle and sent to Mars.
And I think that the "good Rumanians" should start a campaign to enforce a law
to help the Roms obtain compensation for all their suffering in Rumania during
centuries of persecution.
The gentleman called <Creative Intelligence Agency> deserves credit for his
good work. Sir, keep on your good work and be sure that most of the Rumanian
are with you.

GFunar

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fagotburo pukes:

>Who pays you to besmirch homosexuals?, you Romaniac hemerroid?
>
>

By law Romania is a homosexuality free country. In Cluj-Napoca
you would be arrested and sentenced to jail time as an accesory, for
advocating perversion.

Oh, I wish the skinheads would get their hands on you, and teach
you right from wrong.

GFunar

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narden pukes:

>And I think that the "good Rumanians"

Before you think, you should learn to say ROMANIA.

Matei Riain

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NArden6114 <narde...@aol.com> wrote in article

> The gentleman called <Creative Intelligence Agency> deserves credit for
his
> good work. Sir, keep on your good work and be sure that most of the
Rumanian
> are with you.

Te inseli mosule. Poate esti sclerozat (si d'aia nu intelegi ceea ce
scrii) dar majoritatea romanilor din acest NG nu sint cu porcul ala

Horia Sima

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I pray for that. I can visualize the old homo being "sermonized".

Creative Intelligence Agency

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Oh I see now. The majority were homophobes. That's who elected Funny Funar

Horia Sima <hs...@expert.ro> wrote in article
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naz...@lycosmail.com

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In article <199805021711...@ladder01.news.aol.com>#1/1,

gfu...@aol.com (GFunar) wrote:
>
> fagotburo pukes:
>
> >Second the motion.
>

> Who pays you to besmirch Romania, you foreign devil?
>

Yeah, these Romanians have every right to treat gypsies as they do, as we
have every right to treat Romanians as we see fit.

-----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==-----
http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading

naz...@lycosmail.com

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Not until you learn to say Rroma, and if you don't we will call you what we
wish.

Creative Intelligence Agency

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naz...@lycosmail.com wrote

In any event, the pay is very good, and it is no one's business who pays.

Creative Intelligence Agency

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Matei Riain <ma...@erols.com> wrote

|NArden6114 <narde...@aol.com> wrote in article
|>The gentleman called <Creative Intelligence Agency> deserves credit for
|>his good work. Sir, keep on your good work and be sure that most of the
|>Rumanian are with you.

I am sure that most Rumanians recognize anti-Rroma racists when they see
one or read on, and would not turn a blind eye to such slurs. Those
Rumanians who slur the Rroma are doing a greater harm to Rumania's dignity
and international image than a foreigner who gives those racists a taste of
their own medicine. And then there are the few sclerozats who shield such
racists from tasting their own medicine.

Creative Intelligence Agency

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naz...@lycosmail.com wrote
|gfu...@aol.com (GFunar) wrote:
|>

In Rumania, it is against the law. Everyone is required by law to call them
tigani. IT'S OFFICIAL.

Matei Riain

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Creative Intelligence Agency <poet...@idirect.com> wrote in article
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>
> I am sure that most Rumanians recognize anti-Rroma racists when they see
> one or read on, and would not turn a blind eye to such slurs. Those
> Rumanians who slur the Rroma are doing a greater harm to Rumania's
dignity
> and international image than a foreigner who gives those racists a taste
of
> their own medicine. And then there are the few sclerozats who shield such
> racists from tasting their own medicine.

Well, I thought that you couldn't read Romanian? I wasn't referring to
anti-rrom attitudes; I'm half rrom myself. I was disputing the fact that
this pompous ass Narden claims that most of the Romanians that read this NG
side with you.

Mircea

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On 6 May 98 21:34:56 GMT, "Creative Intelligence Agency" <poet...@idirect.com>
wrote:

>Those
>Rumanians who slur the Rroma are doing a greater harm to Rumania's dignity
>and international image than a foreigner who gives those racists a taste of
>their own medicine.

Is that the truth? Hardly! Mr. Keeler is a liar. When he called Romania a toilet
bowl and Romanians uncivilized people, the wally--his imbecility blooming, brain
colder than a well digger's ass, wit drier than a burnt bush-- made absolutely
no distinction between the alleged Romanian racists and the rest of Romanians.
These are the facts. Before eating shit and barking at the moon Mr. Keeler
should better state the truth the way it really was.

Mircea

Creative Intelligence Agency

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Mircea <mir...@enteract.com> wrote in article

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He's absolutely right. Just as the Romanian racists slurred all Rroma, with
Mircea's acquiessence, I slurred the racists in the same manner as a taste
of THEIR own medicine, not MY medicine.

Mircea

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On 6 May 98 21:37:24 GMT, "Creative Intelligence Agency" <poet...@idirect.com>
wrote:

>In Rumania, it is against the law. Everyone is required by law to call them
>tigani. IT'S OFFICIAL.

Shameful nonsense. You pathetic liar are so full of it. Are you saying that
Romanian government officially steps over its own laws?

http://domino.kappa.ro/guvern/home.nsf/Arhiva/7EBE4510E44FDB90C22565D0006FF263?OpenDocument

Structura demografica:
Romani - 89,47%
Maghiari ( plus secui) - 7,12%
**Romi** - 1,76%
Alte nationalitati - 1,65%

Mircea

ro...@webtv.net

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In article <01bd7936$acd24c20$5f5d...@ns.idirect.com>#1/1,

"Creative Intelligence Agency" <poet...@idirect.com> wrote:
>

> Matei Riain <ma...@erols.com> wrote
> |NArden6114 <narde...@aol.com> wrote in article
> |>The gentleman called <Creative Intelligence Agency> deserves credit for
> |>his good work. Sir, keep on your good work and be sure that most of the
> |>Rumanian are with you.
>

> I am sure that most Rumanians recognize anti-Rroma racists when they see

> one or read on, and would not turn a blind eye to such slurs. Those

> Rumanians who slur the Rroma are doing a greater harm to Rumania's dignity
> and international image than a foreigner who gives those racists a taste of

> their own medicine. And then there are the few sclerozats who shield such
> racists from tasting their own medicine.

Mr. Keeler,

Unfortunately the task master may have to be enslaved to understand what it
means to be a slave.

Gregory Kwiek

>
> |Te inseli mosule. Poate esti sclerozat (si d'aia nu intelegi ceea ce
> |scrii) dar majoritatea romanilor din acest NG nu sint cu porcul ala
>
>

-----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==-----

Mircea

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On 7 May 98 03:23:06 GMT, "Creative Intelligence Agency" <poet...@idirect.com>
wrote:

>Just as the Romanian racists slurred all Rroma,

You're dumber than a bucket of rocks, wally. Had they not slurred *all* Rroma
you wouldn't call them racists, right jackass? Moreover, dense as you are, you
have no clue about who is and who is not Romanian here.

>with Mircea's acquiessence,

Judge not, lest ye be judged. Heck, I am not and I do not care to be Petronius
of Romanian moral standards, but that is hardly a justification for your
stupidity.

>I slurred the racists

You're a liar. You indiscriminately slurred Romanians and Romania.

>in the same manner as a taste
>of THEIR own medicine, not MY medicine.

Before, you were just stupid. But now that you say you tasted their medicine,
how does it feel to be a friggin racist and a stupid?

Mircea

Preda Mihailescu

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Mircea wrote:

> On 6 May 98 21:37:24 GMT, "Creative Intelligence Agency" <poet...@idirect.com>

> wrote:
>
> >In Rumania, it is against the law. Everyone is required by law to call them
> >tigani. IT'S OFFICIAL.
>
> Shameful nonsense. You pathetic liar are so full of it. Are you saying that
> Romanian government officially steps over its own laws?
>
> http://domino.kappa.ro/guvern/home.nsf/Arhiva/7EBE4510E44FDB90C22565D0006FF263?OpenDocument
>
> Structura demografica:
> Romani - 89,47%
> Maghiari ( plus secui) - 7,12%
> **Romi** - 1,76%
> Alte nationalitati - 1,65%
>
> Mircea

Last time I was in Bucharest (fall 97), there were dedicated TV hours for the
_Rroms_, and just this name was used. Neither tigani, nore romanies or vlahs or other
inventions of the US experts.

Preda

Creative Intelligence Agency

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Mircea <mir...@enteract.com> wrote
| On 7 May 98 03:23:06 GMT, "Creative Intelligence Agency"
<poet...@idirect.com>

| wrote:
| >Just as the Romanian racists slurred all Rroma,
|
| You're dumber than a bucket of rocks, wally. Had they not slurred *all*
Rroma
| you wouldn't call them racists, right jackass?

Try again.

| Moreover, dense as you are, you
| have no clue about who is and who is not Romanian here.

Don't be coy.

| >with Mircea's acquiessence,
|
| Judge not, lest ye be judged.

Do it all the time don't ya.

|Heck, I am not and I do not care to be Petronius
| of Romanian moral standards, but that is hardly a justification for your
| stupidity.

It's YOUR justification for YOUR stupidity.

|
| >I slurred the racists
|
| You're a liar. You indiscriminately slurred Romanians and Romania.

Which was a taste of THEIR medicine.

| >in the same manner as a taste
| >of THEIR own medicine, not MY medicine.
|
| Before, you were just stupid. But now that you say you tasted their
medicine,
| how does it feel to be a friggin racist and a stupid?

Back to reading & comprehension 101 for you.

Creative Intelligence Agency

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ro...@webtv.net wrote in article <6irmco$nmv$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
| In article <01bd7936$acd24c20$5f5d...@ns.idirect.com>#1/1,

| "Creative Intelligence Agency" <poet...@idirect.com> wrote:
| >

Which would be a regretable occurrance, of course. Alas, you may be right.

Creative Intelligence Agency

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Mircea <mir...@enteract.com> wrote in article

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| On 6 May 98 21:37:24 GMT, "Creative Intelligence Agency"
<poet...@idirect.com>

Well of course that is the face Romania presents to foreigners. You know
fucken well that Silliescu's government had passed laws designating Rroma
as tigani.

And what government does not overstep its own laws? Innocent boy.

|

Creative Intelligence Agency

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Preda Mihailescu <miha...@inf.ethz.ch> wrote in article
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| Last time I was in Bucharest (fall 97), there were dedicated TV hours
for the
| _Rroms_, and just this name was used. Neither tigani, nore romanies or
vlahs or other
| inventions of the US experts.
| Preda

"tigani" is an invention of US experts? Idiot.

The target audience of the TV is the Rrom -- no need for alienation in that
instance. Aside from that anomoly... it's back to tiganistan

Mircea

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On 7 May 98 11:15:02 GMT, "Creative Intelligence Agency" <poet...@idirect.com>
wrote:

>Well of course that is the face Romania presents to foreigners.

In Romanian? Just as water doesn't percolate a frog's ass, so too logic doesn't
permeate your brainless skull. And Romanian dailies are also for the benefit of
the foreigners, right? Apparently your CPU is as dead as a doorknob.

>You know fucken well that Silliescu's government had passed laws designating Rroma
>as tigani.

Designating laws? Is that a fact, Pinocchio?

Mircea

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On 7 May 98 11:08:46 GMT, "Creative Intelligence Agency" <poet...@idirect.com>
wrote:

>| You're dumber than a bucket of rocks, wally. Had they not slurred *all*

>|Rroma you wouldn't call them racists, right jackass?
>
>Try again.

Sure! A racist is prejudicial against a particular race. Saying that "Romanian
racists slurred all Rroma" is redundantly stupid.

>|Heck, I am not and I do not care to be Petronius
>| of Romanian moral standards, but that is hardly a justification for your
>| stupidity.
>
>It's YOUR justification for YOUR stupidity.

Well, spank my ass and call me Judy, but I strongly doubt that your
unintelligent pro-Rroma activism earned any sympathy points among the readers of
this newsgroup.

>| >I slurred the racists
>|
>| You're a liar. You indiscriminately slurred Romanians and Romania.
>
>Which was a taste of THEIR medicine.
>
>| >in the same manner as a taste
>| >of THEIR own medicine, not MY medicine.

>| Before, you were just stupid. But now that you say you tasted their
>|medicine, how does it feel to be a friggin racist and a stupid?
>
>Back to reading & comprehension 101 for you.

Mr. potty bureau, you wrote "I slurred the racists [...] in the same manner as a
taste." What were you trying to say: you wanted to taste or you wanted to give
them a taste? Let me help you out here: You slurred Romania and Romanians
because you are an ignorant, uneducated, boorish, obnoxious, stupid asshole.

Mircea

Creative Intelligence Agency

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Mircea <mir...@enteract.com>

RTw 05/02 1216 Romania changes official name for gypsies
/1995
BUCHAREST, May 2 (Reuter) - The Romanian government has changed the
official name for the gypsy minority to "Tigan" replacing "Romani,"
supposedly to avoid confusion with ethnic Romanians, but gypsy leaders
called the move discriminatory.
"This change is to prevent any possible confusion between Romanians
and the gypsies," Foreign Ministry spokesman Mircea Geoana told Reuters on
Tuesday. He said the move was launched by the foreign ministry to put
Romania in line with terminology used by international organisations such
as the United Nations.
Several recent reports, however, including a Council of Europe study
in 1994, refer to the Romanian gypsies as "Roma."
"Tigan" is the direct Romanian translation of gypsy. Ion Bidia,
president of the Ethnic Romani Community, said its members regarded the
change as a slur which would only worsen ethnic tensions between
Romanians and gypsies.
"This (Tigan) is an insulting word for us, a vendetta against us,"
said Bidia.
A 1992 census showed Romania had 400,000 gypsies but their community
leaders insist the number is more like two million.
Geoana did not say so but many Romanians resent what they see as a
portrayal abroad of the gypsy minority as poor and downtrodden, saying it
reflects badly on Romania.
There is also resentment among ethnic Romanians that members of the
gypsy minority seek asylum abroad as Romanians.
In a memorandum on why Prime Minister Nicolae Vacaroiu ordered the
change, Foreign Minister Teodor Melescanu said the word "Romani" confused
international opinion and "could lead to an identification of the Romanians
with the so-called Romani."
Bidia accused Vacaroiu's leftist government of using the gypsy
community as scapegoats for "the economic disaster of the country" and of
painting them "as black sheep."
He threatened to call street protests until the government swapped
back to the less offensive "Romani" label.
"We are Romani from Romania and we have fought for years to win our
identity," Bidia said.
Under fascist rule in World War Two, Romania sent as many as 500,000
gypsies to death in concentration camps. Resentment against gypsies has
exploded since the end of communism in 1989 with gypsies blamed for
everything from the poor state of Bucharest to the theft of reflective road
markers.

Creative Intelligence Agency

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Mircea <mir...@enteract.com> wrote in article

<3554bc1b...@news.enteract.com>...

Only for those with reading & comprehension difficulties.

As if any had any sympathy to begin with. Take yourself for instance.

|
| >| >I slurred the racists
| >|
| >| You're a liar. You indiscriminately slurred Romanians and Romania.
| >
| >Which was a taste of THEIR medicine.
| >
| >| >in the same manner as a taste
| >| >of THEIR own medicine, not MY medicine.
|
| >| Before, you were just stupid. But now that you say you tasted their
| >|medicine, how does it feel to be a friggin racist and a stupid?
| >
| >Back to reading & comprehension 101 for you.
|
| Mr. potty bureau, you wrote "I slurred the racists [...] in the same
manner as a
| taste." What were you trying to say: you wanted to taste or you wanted to
give
| them a taste?

Back to the basics for you...

Let me help you out here: You slurred Romania and Romanians

which was the medicine.

| because you are an ignorant, uneducated, boorish, obnoxious, stupid
asshole.

And by your ommission you cozy up to Romanian anti-Rroma racists -- says a
lot for your moral pinnacles.

|
| Mircea
|

Preda Mihailescu

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Creative Intelligence Agency wrote:

> Preda Mihailescu <miha...@inf.ethz.ch> wrote in article
> <35518458...@inf.ethz.ch>...
> | Mircea wrote:
> |

> | > On 6 May 98 21:37:24 GMT, "Creative Intelligence Agency"
> <poet...@idirect.com>

> | > Mircea
> |
> | Last time I was in Bucharest (fall 97), there were dedicated TV hours
> for the
> | _Rroms_, and just this name was used. Neither tigani, nore romanies or
> vlahs or other
> | inventions of the US experts.
> | Preda
>
> "tigani" is an invention of US experts? Idiot.
>
> The target audience of the TV is the Rrom -- no need for alienation in that
> instance. Aside from that anomoly... it's back to tiganistan

Shit bucket, I told you not to interfere any more with threads before you
learn reading and understanding punctuation and similar. There is a comma
separating tigani,
from the inventions of the US experts - romanies and vlahs. Context reading,
ever heard of that ? Even more intelligent compilers are able to use contexts,
but you are a dumb machine - shit bucket. Why are you so helplessly racist,
dumb and asking for trouble from everyone ? What is it you enjoy about it, poor
soul ?

PM

Mircea

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Which is the *designating law*? I know that the Parliament approves laws in
Romania, not the government. What law from Romanian Penal Code states that
Gypsies are to be called "tigani" not "romi"?

Mircea

On 7 May 98 21:10:17 GMT, "Creative Intelligence Agency" <poet...@idirect.com>
wrote:

>|>You know fucken well that Silliescu's government had passed laws

Mircea

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On 7 May 98 21:33:15 GMT, "Creative Intelligence Agency" <poet...@idirect.com>
wrote:

>| Sure! A racist is prejudicial against a particular race. Saying that

>|"Romanian racists slurred all Rroma" is redundantly stupid.
>
>Only for those with reading & comprehension difficulties.

It is obvious you need a remedial class. Want a second opinion? It wouldn't do
you much good. You are too dumb; if dumb were dirt, you would be about an acre.

>| Well, spank my ass and call me Judy, but I strongly doubt that your
>| unintelligent pro-Rroma activism earned any sympathy points among the
>|readers of this newsgroup.

>As if any had any sympathy to begin with. Take yourself for instance.

Take me for example: I have absolutely no sympathy for you. I think you are the
worst possible advocate for the Gypsy cause. I think you are putting your
moronic ego ahead of the Gypsy cause. I think you do not care about the Gypsies,
but you are using them as a pretext to give some meaning to your meaningless
life. Because all you do is stir hatred against Gypsies, you are hurting their
cause.

Mircea

Creative Intelligence Agency

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Mircea <mir...@enteract.com> wrote

| On 7 May 98 21:33:15 GMT, "Creative Intelligence Agency"
<poet...@idirect.com>
| wrote:
|
| >| Sure! A racist is prejudicial against a particular race. Saying that
| >|"Romanian racists slurred all Rroma" is redundantly stupid.
| >
| >Only for those with reading & comprehension difficulties.
|
| It is obvious you need a remedial class. Want a second opinion? It
wouldn't do you much good. You are too dumb; if dumb were dirt, you would
be about an acre.

to your coast to coast.

as if it matters

|I think you are the
|worst possible advocate for the Gypsy cause.

as if you were better

|I think you are putting your moronic ego ahead of the Gypsy cause.

What a terrible thing to have an ego. Perhaps if you had one, you'd not be
a nobody.

|I think you do not care about the Gypsies, but you are using them as a
|pretext to give some meaning to your meaningless life.

Some meaning, yes. I get meaning from other things. It all adds up.

|Because all you do is stir hatred against Gypsies, you are hurting their
|cause.

Because all I did was post a news item about the Rroma, and out came the
Romanian racists, already stirred up. Take yourself for example -- we can
see the evidence of how you turn a blind eye to racism against the Rroma.

Creative Intelligence Agency

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Preda Mihailescu <miha...@inf.ethz.ch> wrote

| > | > On 6 May 98 21:37:24 GMT, "Creative Intelligence Agency"
| > <poet...@idirect.com>

Oh the eloquence!...

I told you not to interfere any more with threads

Why should anyone care about what you diktat?

|before you learn reading and understanding punctuation and similar.

What a fine example you present.

|There is a comma
| separating tigani,
| from the inventions of the US experts - romanies and vlahs.

Oh wow! A grammar flame! How pathetic.

Context reading,
| ever heard of that ? Even more intelligent compilers are able to use
contexts,
| but you are a dumb machine - shit bucket.

The eloquence. I love the eloquence of Mihailescaca in the morning; it
smells like ... failure.

|Why are you so helplessly racist,

|dumb and asking for trouble from everyone? What is it you enjoy about it,
|poor soul ?

Why don't you save me?

Creative Intelligence Agency

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Why should it be in the Penal Code? Look elsewhere.

Mircea <mir...@enteract.com> wrote in article

<35584a4f...@news.enteract.com>...

| Which is the *designating law*? I know that the Parliament approves laws
in
| Romania, not the government. What law from Romanian Penal Code states
that
| Gypsies are to be called "tigani" not "romi"?
|
| Mircea
|

| On 7 May 98 21:10:17 GMT, "Creative Intelligence Agency"
<poet...@idirect.com>

Preda Mihailescu

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Creative Intelligence Agency wrote:
|Why are you so helplessly racist,

> |dumb and asking for trouble from everyone? What is it you enjoy about it,
> |poor soul ?
>
> Why don't you save me?

Why should I ? I am neither your guardian angel nor a world saviour kind
ofhypocrite like you. Even more, personally I think saving you from losing your
last
contacts with reality will be a mighty hard task for your guardian angels
themselves.
For myself, I was just asking, why do you need to be such a racist and an idiot
at
the same time. There are obvious - but very seldom - signs, you might do better

if it were not for your thick ego wanting to be right and a hero applaused by
everyone at any time. So much for my praising ratio for today.
And maybe a modest request (I know you will not be able to satisfy it, but I
tried).
Could you refrain from your boring "tac o tac" game of imagining to through
back to
the others what ever they say about you ? It is neither funny, nor right or
convincing anyone of more but your endless racist helplessness. It is a little
bit like
"Wally ma pupi in cur" - "Si eu pe tine", kind of defense: both the level and
the efficiency being the same.

PM

Preda Mihailescu

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Creative Intelligence Agency wrote:

> Mircea <mir...@enteract.com> wrote in article

> <35512ef2...@news.enteract.com>...
> | On 6 May 98 21:37:24 GMT, "Creative Intelligence Agency"
> <poet...@idirect.com>

> | wrote:
> |
> | >In Rumania, it is against the law. Everyone is required by law to call
> them
> | >tigani. IT'S OFFICIAL.

You mean Ilici, the parent of king Cioaba, shit bucket ? You must be back with
your reading, he would not have done anything like that or his uncle would have
scorn him.And would you please be so civil as not claiming things which are
wrong and insulting anyone else who expects you to prove your statements ?
Asking even the others to look through the whole world to see what it is _you_
might have meant ! I have seen the pattern x times with you shit bucket, the
world is not here to solve your problems, be so kind !

PM

> Well of course that is the face Romania presents to foreigners. You know

> fucken well that Silliescu's government had passed laws designating Rroma
> as tigani.
>

Creative Intelligence Agency

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Preda Mihailescu <miha...@inf.ethz.ch> wrote

|Creative Intelligence Agency wrote:
|>Mircea <mir...@enteract.com> wrote

|>|On 6 May 98 21:37:24 GMT, "Creative Intelligence Agency"
|>|

|>|>In Rumania, it is against the law. Everyone is required by law to call
|>them tigani. IT'S OFFICIAL.
|
|You mean Ilici, the parent of king Cioaba, shit bucket ? You must be back
with
|your reading, he would not have done anything like that or his uncle would
have
|scorn him.And would you please be so civil as not claiming things which
are
|wrong and insulting anyone else who expects you to prove your statements?

RTw 05/02 1216 Romania changes official name for gypsies

/1995
BUCHAREST, May 2 (Reuter) - The Romanian government has changed the
official name for the gypsy minority to "Tigan" replacing "Romani,"
supposedly to avoid confusion with ethnic Romanians, but gypsy leaders
called the move discriminatory.

|Asking even the others to look through the whole world to see what it is

Creative Intelligence Agency

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Preda Mihailescu <miha...@inf.ethz.ch> wrote
|Creative Intelligence Agency wrote:

|>|dumb and asking for trouble from everyone? What is it you enjoy about
|>|it, poor soul ?
|>
|> Why don't you save me?
|

|Why should I? I am neither your guardian angel nor a world saviour kind
|of hypocrite like you. Even more, personally I think saving you from

|losing your last contacts with reality will be a mighty hard task for your
|guardian angels themselves. For myself, I was just asking, why do you need
|to be such a racist and an idiot at the same time. There are obvious - but
|very seldom - signs, you might do better if it were not for your thick ego
|wanting to be right and a hero applaused by everyone at any time.

What a terrible thing -- to have an ego.

|So much
|for my praising ratio for today. And maybe a modest request (I know you
|will not be able to satisfy it, but I tried).

And, as always, failed.

|Could you refrain from your boring "tac o tac" game of imagining to
|through back to the others what ever they say about you?

Tac

|It is neither
|funny, nor right or convincing anyone of more but your endless racist
|helplessness. It is a little bit like "Wally ma pupi in cur" - "Si eu pe
|tine", kind of defense: both the level and the efficiency being the same.

It's a gas toying with you.

Preda Mihailescu

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Creative Intelligence Agency wrote:

>
> RTw 05/02 1216 Romania changes official name for gypsies
> /1995
> BUCHAREST, May 2 (Reuter) - The Romanian government has changed the
> official name for the gypsy minority to "Tigan" replacing "Romani,"
> supposedly to avoid confusion with ethnic Romanians, but gypsy leaders
> called the move discriminatory.

Now shit bucket, what does this exactly say ? What is an official name,
where is it defined by whom and under what protestion. I would say first
this is a Reuter correspondent knowing what news he may ge tpayed for
and on top of it zero information. You have still to work a lot about
it to make a point, cause you may be sure that noone will take your half
blurred pieces of whine to check them against reality and make your
point for you. Friendly racist, piss off !

PM

The Foreigner

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Preda Mihailescu <miha...@inf.ethz.ch> wrote

|Creative Intelligence Agency wrote:
|
|>RTw 05/02 1216 Romania changes official name for gypsies

|> BUCHAREST, May 2 (Reuter) - The Romanian government has changed the
|> official name for the gypsy minority to "Tigan" replacing "Romani,"
|> supposedly to avoid confusion with ethnic Romanians, but gypsy leaders
|> called the move discriminatory.
|
|Now shit bucket, what does this exactly say ? What is an official name,
|where is it defined by whom and under what protestion. I would say first
|this is a Reuter correspondent knowing what news he may ge tpayed for
|and on top of it zero information. You have still to work a lot about
|it to make a point, cause you may be sure that noone will take your half
|blurred pieces of whine to check them against reality and make your
|point for you. Friendly racist, piss off !

Well, you bigotted bag of barf, I would suggest that you contact Reuters
and inform them of the Shining Truth.

Preda Mihailescu

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The Foreigner wrote:

> Preda Mihailescu <miha...@inf.ethz.ch> wrote
> |Creative Intelligence Agency wrote:
> |
> |>RTw 05/02 1216 Romania changes official name for gypsies
> |> BUCHAREST, May 2 (Reuter) - The Romanian government has changed the
> |> official name for the gypsy minority to "Tigan" replacing "Romani,"
> |> supposedly to avoid confusion with ethnic Romanians, but gypsy leaders
> |> called the move discriminatory.
> |
> |Now shit bucket, what does this exactly say ? What is an official name,
> |where is it defined by whom and under what protestion. I would say first
> |this is a Reuter correspondent knowing what news he may ge tpayed for
> |and on top of it zero information. You have still to work a lot about
> |it to make a point, cause you may be sure that noone will take your half
> |blurred pieces of whine to check them against reality and make your
> |point for you. Friendly racist, piss off !
>
> Well, you bigotted bag of barf, I would suggest that you contact Reuters
> and inform them of the Shining Truth.
>

Shit bucket, never forget: you are the only activist here around - together
maybe withsome cryptocommunist pals of yours. Activism is your passion, so you
go and talk to Reuter, find out the truth and tell it to me. What I know is
that there are Rrom parties called like that, that there are TV emissions
talking only about Rroms, so something about your Reuters pamphlet is not in
perfect accord with reality. The rest, up to you to find out, shit collector -
even if you change your name, your opac mind is unmistakeable.

PM

>
>

The Foreigner

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Preda Mihailescu <miha...@inf.ethz.ch> wrote

|The Foreigner wrote:
|>Preda Mihailescu <miha...@inf.ethz.ch> wrote
|>|Creative Intelligence Agency wrote:
|>|
|>|>RTw 05/02 1216 Romania changes official name for gypsies
|>|>BUCHAREST, May 2 (Reuter) - The Romanian government has changed the
|>|>official name for the gypsy minority to "Tigan" replacing "Romani,"
|>|>supposedly to avoid confusion with ethnic Romanians, but gypsy leaders
|>|>called the move discriminatory.
|>|
|>|Now shit bucket, what does this exactly say ? What is an official name,
|>|where is it defined by whom and under what protestion. I would say first
|>|this is a Reuter correspondent knowing what news he may ge tpayed for
|>|and on top of it zero information. You have still to work a lot about
|>|it to make a point, cause you may be sure that noone will take your half
|>|blurred pieces of whine to check them against reality and make your
|>|point for you. Friendly racist, piss off !
|>
|>Well, you bigotted bag of barf, I would suggest that you contact Reuters
|>and inform them of the Shining Truth.
|
|Shit bucket, never forget: you are the only activist here around -
|together maybe withsome cryptocommunist pals of yours.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Only in your depleted imagination barf bucket

|Activism is your
|passion, so you go and talk to Reuter, find out the truth and tell it to
|me.

Go fetch fido! Fuck you. Find it out and post it yourself. Who the fuck do
you think you are that I go fetch for a wretch like you? I don't have a
beef with Reuters, you do. Get off your inactive ass and do it yourself
barf bag.

|What I know is that there are Rrom parties called like that, that
|there are TV emissions talking only about Rroms, so something about your
|Reuters pamphlet is not in perfect accord with reality.

I already made a response to the above situations. Reread it instead of
repeating it.

|The rest, up to
|you to find out, shit collector - even if you change your name, your opac
|mind is unmistakeable.

It's spelled "opaque" not opac, barf bag.

Preda Mihailescu

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The Foreigner wrote:

> |
> |Shit bucket, never forget: you are the only activist here around -
> |together maybe withsome cryptocommunist pals of yours.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Only in your depleted imagination barf bucket
>

Oh yes shit bucket, that's what you are: the missing link between Martin
LutherKing and Stalin. You would like to have the wit of the first, but have
the manners
and wrath of the second. Go north !

The Foreigner

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Preda Mihailescu <miha...@inf.ethz.ch> wrote
|The Foreigner wrote:

|>Preda Mihailescu <miha...@inf.ethz.ch> wrote

I already live in the True North Strong & Free.
Study Geography Jerk.

Preda Mihailescu

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The Foreigner wrote:

> Go fetch fido! Fuck you. Find it out and post it yourself. Who the fuck do
> you think you are that I go fetch for a wretch like you? I don't have a
> beef with Reuters, you do. Get off your inactive ass and do it yourself
> barf bag.
>

And one more thing, shit bucket. It is not with calomny or your sick
imperatives that you will get anyone interested in your obsessions. I think
Reuters brought an irrelevant news which had no impact on the politcal
evolution I saw. If you believe me wrong and it is important to _you_, go out
and prove it. There are more important problems in this world than you thick
mind can hold.Jews used to have a good yidish word for the one among them who
- inadvertedly, by vanity or stupidity incited to antisemitism, and they were
doing all the possible to teach them reality. I think this is what Rroms
should do to you, if they do have a minority culture, which I believe. Teach
you to shut up !

> |What I know is that there are Rrom parties called like that, that
> |there are TV emissions talking only about Rroms, so something about your
> |Reuters pamphlet is not in perfect accord with reality.
>
> I already made a response to the above situations. Reread it instead of
> repeating it.
>

Only your response makes no difference to anyone but you. The question was:
what is that Reuters law about to start with, if one can see no consequences ?

> |The rest, up to
> |you to find out, shit collector - even if you change your name, your opac
> |mind is unmistakeable.
>
> It's spelled "opaque" not opac, barf bag.

Thank you Websters

The Foreigner

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Preda Mihailescu <miha...@inf.ethz.ch> wrote

|The Foreigner wrote:
|>Go fetch fido! Fuck you. Find it out and post it yourself. Who the fuck
do
|>you think you are that I go fetch for a wretch like you? I don't have a
|>beef with Reuters, you do. Get off your inactive ass and do it yourself
|>barf bag.
|
|And one more thing, shit bucket.

tac o tac

|It is not with calomny or your sick
|imperatives that you will get anyone interested in your obsessions. I
|think Reuters brought an irrelevant news which had no impact on the
|politcal evolution I saw.

You don't think.

|If you believe me wrong

And I do.

|and it is important to _you_, go out and prove it.

It is isn't important to me to prove anything to YOU, anal-drool.

|There are more important problems in this

|world than you thick mind can hold. Jews used to have a good yidish word

|for the one among them who - inadvertedly, by vanity or stupidity incited
|to antisemitism, and they were doing all the possible to teach them
|reality. I think this is what Rroms should do to you, if they do have a
|minority culture, which I believe. Teach you to shut up!

They thank me for my contributions. I am in touch with them daily.

You are too blind and bigoted to see.

|>|The rest, up to
|>|you to find out, shit collector - even if you change your name, your
|>|opac mind is unmistakeable.
|>
|>It's spelled "opaque" not opac, barf bag.
|
|Thank you Websters

Look at for once in your life, especially the Oxford, the real one.

The Foreigner

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May 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/10/98

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Preda Mihailescu <miha...@inf.ethz.ch> wrote
|And one more thing, shit bucket. It is not with calomny or your sick
/^^^^^^
calumny

|imperatives that you will get anyone interested in your obsessions. I
|think Reuters brought an irrelevant news which had no impact on the
|politcal

^^^^^^^^\
political

|evolution I saw. If you believe me wrong and it is important to _you_,
|go out and prove it. There are more important problems in this world

|than you thick mind can hold.

^^^\
your

|Jews used to have a good yidish word for the one among them who

^^^^^^\
yiddish

|- inadvertedly, by vanity or stupidity incited to antisemitism, and

^^^^^^^^^^^^\
inadvertently

|they were doing all the possible to teach them reality. I think this

they were doing all that was possible to teach them...

|is what Rroms should do to you, if they do have a minority culture,
|which I believe. Teach you to shut up !
|

|Only your response makes no difference to anyone but you. The |question
was: what is that Reuters law about to start with,

^^^^^^^^^^^\
It is not a Reuters law.

ro...@webtv.net

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May 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/11/98

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In article <3555BF43...@inf.ethz.ch>,

Preda Mihailescu <miha...@inf.ethz.ch> wrote:
>
> The Foreigner wrote:
>

> > Preda Mihailescu <miha...@inf.ethz.ch> wrote
> > |Creative Intelligence Agency wrote:
> > |
> > |>RTw 05/02 1216 Romania changes official name for gypsies
> > |> BUCHAREST, May 2 (Reuter) - The Romanian government has changed the
> > |> official name for the gypsy minority to "Tigan" replacing "Romani,"
> > |> supposedly to avoid confusion with ethnic Romanians, but gypsy leaders
> > |> called the move discriminatory.
> > |
> > |Now shit bucket, what does this exactly say ? What is an official name,
> > |where is it defined by whom and under what protestion. I would say first
> > |this is a Reuter correspondent knowing what news he may ge tpayed for
> > |and on top of it zero information. You have still to work a lot about
> > |it to make a point, cause you may be sure that noone will take your half
> > |blurred pieces of whine to check them against reality and make your
> > |point for you. Friendly racist, piss off !
> >
> > Well, you bigotted bag of barf, I would suggest that you contact Reuters
> > and inform them of the Shining Truth.
> >
>

> Shit bucket, never forget: you are the only activist here around - together

What a dumbass!

> maybe withsome cryptocommunist pals of yours. Activism is your passion, so you
> go and talk to Reuter, find out the truth and tell it to me. What I know is

> that there are Rrom parties called like that, that there are TV emissions
> talking only about Rroms, so something about your Reuters pamphlet is not in

> perfect accord with reality. The rest, up to you to find out, shit collector -

> even if you change your name, your opac mind is unmistakeable.
>

> PM
>
> >
> >
>
>

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May 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/11/98

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The Foreigner wrote:

> |Only your response makes no difference to anyone but you. The |question
> was: what is that Reuters law about to start with,
> ^^^^^^^^^^^\
> It is not a Reuters law.

That's exactly the question you still have to clear up shit bucket:
whose law was it exactly and what are its concrete implications. If of
course, you have something to say other that barking around.

The Foreigner

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May 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/11/98

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Preda Mihailescu <miha...@inf.ethz.ch> wrote

Then why claim that it was a "Reuters law"?

|whose law was it exactly and what are its concrete implications. If of
|course, you have something to say other that barking around.

Ask the officials the Reuters reporter spoke with. I recall the time when
this report and other reports were posted to scr, and almost to a person,
the romanians on ng were absolutely opposed to referring to the tigani as
Rrom or Rroma or Romani. The defence of the Romanian government for their
administrative decree was loud and clear. THAT was real.