Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale: Top Five Bhindranwale Myths
HiTMaN 9497
By PUNEET SINGH LAMBA
The Sikh Times, Jun. 6, 2004
http://sikhtimes.com/bios_060604a.html
Introduction
Today marks the 20th anniversary of the passing away of Jarnail Singh Brar,
popularly known as Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale, or simply Bhindranwale.
In the early 1980s, Bhindranwale led an armed movement for Sikh autonomy and
died during an army offensive (nicknamed Operation Blue Star) on the Darbar
Sahib complex (also known as the Golden Temple complex).
Not many people can claim to be neutral about Bhindranwale. To his admirers, he
was above all a man of his word, a rare quality among politicians.1 To his
detractors, he mostly represented the 'paranoia' and 'dangerously intolerant
quality of orthodox Sikhs.'2
After Operation Blue Star, Harchand Singh Longowal, perhaps the most respected
moderate Sikh leader of recent years, is said to have done a volte-face and
revised his opinion of Bhindranwale overnight from 'scoundrel' to 'saint.'3
Dipankar Gupta, one of India's premier sociologists, once offered the following
explanation, 'That Bhindranwale is near canonisation in the minds of many Sikhs
today is because Bhindranwale's blood mingled with the blood of at least 400
pilgrims who died during Bluestar.'4
The fiery preacher, equally controversial in life and death, left behind
several myths about himself, some made popular by well-wishers, others by
detractors. The following is a review of the top five most enduring of the
Bhindranwale fables.
Myth #5: Bhindranwale Survived Operation Blue Star and Is Alive and Well
Dam Dami Taksal is the influential religious school, once located in the
village Bhinder5, where Bhindranwale was initially a student and eventually
jathedar (head priest). The seminary's current jathedar, Thakur Singh, has
continued to maintain that Bhindranwale is still alive.6
According to Lt. Gen. Kuldip Singh Brar, who commanded Operation Blue Star,
'[the bodies] of Bhindranwale and Shahbeg were identified by a number of
agencies including the police, the I.B. [Intelligence Bureau] and militants in
our custody.'7 Bhindranwale's brother is also reported to have identified
Bhindranwale's body.8 Pictures of what appears to be Bhindranwale's body have
been published in at least two widely circulated books.9,10
Whereas there can be little doubt that Bhindranwale is no more, the
circumstances of his final moments remain shrouded in mystery. The New York
Times reported three distinct versions of Bhindranwale's death.
Veteran B.B.C. correspondent Mark Tully relates an incident during
Bhindranwale's funeral. Captain Bhardwaj 'on lifting the sheet to make sure it
was Bhindranwale [asked] the police why the Sant's [Sant is an honorific title
analogous to Saint] body was so badly battered.' A police officer replied, 'The
extremists broke his bones.'11
At the other end of the spectrum lies Dilbir Singh's account. Dilbir Singh was
'Public Relations Advisor at Guru Nanak Dev University for seven years [and]
was with the Sant constantly from 1978 until the last week of his life.' He was
also 'at that time a correspondent of the Tribune and formerly of the Patriot.'
He stated, 'In the fight Bhindranwale was injured on the right side of his
temple. A government doctor verified he was captured alive. He was tortured to
death.'12
R.K. Bajaj, a correspondent for Surya magazine, is said to have confirmed that
'he had personally seen a photograph of Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale in army
custody.'13
Myth #4: Bhindranwale Was a Man of Religion Without Political Ambition
Bhindranwale made repeated claims to the effect that he had no interest in
political power, 'If I ever become president of the Akali Dal or the S.G.P.C.,
an M.L.A., a government minister, or a member of parliament . . . I shall
deserve a shoe-beating by you.'14,15
In contrast, we have the following examples of Bhindranwale's abundant
political aspirations year after year:
During the S.G.P.C. elections of 1979, 'Of the forty candidates Bhindranwale
put up [for a total of 140 seats], all but four were defeated.'16
'For all his protestations that he was not a politician, Bhindranwale
campaigned actively for the Congress in three constituencies' during the 1980
general elections.17
During the 1981 elections to the Delhi Sikh Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee
(D.S.G.P.C.), 'in an attempt to divide Akali votes, the Congress (I) had asked
the A.I.S.S.F. [All India Sikh Students Federation] to put up candidates for
the Delhi gurdwaras whose campaign was led by Sant Bhindranwale. No A.I.S.S.F.
candidate won.'18
At one point in 1983, the Talwandi-Tohra faction of the Akali Dal got a section
of the S.G.P.C. to recommend Bhindranwale for the position of jathedar (head
priest) of the Akal Takht.19
According to India Today, in the months leading up to Operation Blue Star about
a third of Longowal's S.G.P.C. members and district Akali Dal presidents had
'defected' to Bhindranwale [India Today, May 15, 1984, pp. 30-31, cited in Paul
Wallace and Surendra Chopra, Political Dynamics and Crisis in Punjab,
(Amritsar: Guru Nanak Dev University, 1988), p. 39.].
The Darbar Sahib's Public Relations Officer (P.R.O.) Narinderjit Singh Nanda
recalled, 'Bhindranwale told me that within thirty days he was taking over the
S.G.P.C.'20
However, given his poor record in electoral politics and a disinclination to
play by the rules, he had little incentive to seek formal political office. He
was already 'the uncrowned emperor.'21 As articulated by Time magazine,
'Bhindranwale had become so popular he had usurped the Akalis' authority.'22 He
wielded more informal power than all of Punjab's formal political players
combined and liked the idea of 'keeping all factions chasing his favor
[whereby] no faction made a move in Punjab without considering the response it
would draw from Bhindranwale.'23
Bhindranwale operated 'from inside a whale,'24 seemingly without concern for
other points of view. 'In this independence lay much of Bhindranwale's
appeal.'25 Yet, the same aloofness also represented his most significant
weakness: a failure to participate in the democratic process.
'Villagers came to him with their problems, Bhindranwale pronounced judgments
and called frightened policemen on the telephone to instruct them on how a
matter was to be settled.'26
Subhash Kirpekar was 'perhaps the last journalist to meet the lion in his den.'
During the interview Bhindranwale responded thus to a question on succession
planning, 'It is not an elective post. I think whosoever attains the status of
God will come up as my successor.'27
Myth #3: Bhindranwale Did Not Demand Khalistan
Bhindranwale's standard response to the question of Khalistan, an independent
Sikh state, was noncommittal: 'we are not in favor of Khalistan nor are we
against it.'28 He often also clarified that if Khalistan came about, 'We won't
reject it. We shall not repeat the mistake of 1947.'29 To that he added, 'if
the Indian Government invaded the Darbar Sahib complex, the foundation for an
independent Sikh state will have been laid.'30
The book Fighting for Faith and Nation: Dialogues with Sikh Militants by
Cynthia Keppley Mahmood has received wide acceptance among radical Sikhs. In
the book, Harpal Singh recalls a meeting with Bhindranwale during which the
preacher remarked, 'staying in India would mean the genocide of the Sikhs.'31
The implication that anything short of a separate state would spell eventual
disaster for the Sikhs amounted to an implicit vote for Khalistan. On other
occasions Bhindranwale was more explicit, 'Frankly, I don't think the Sikhs can
live with or within India.'32
The Dal Khalsa, responsible for hoisting a Khalistan flag at a Sikh convention
on March 20, 1982 at Anandpur Sahib, were seen forming a protective ring around
Bhindranwale when, in 1981, he was holding the police at bay in Chowk Mehta in
an attempt to avoid arrest.33 Although 'Bhindranwale was never openly
associated with the Dal Khalsa,' most observers regarded it as 'Bhindranwale's
party.'34
In early 1983, India's intelligence is said to have obtained a copy of a letter
from Bhindranwale to Chauhan in which he promised full support for Khalistan.35
Finally, while we're on the subject, we might as well also cover one other
related myth, i.e. that Khalistan has never had any substantial support amongst
Sikhs in India. In an interview with B.B.C. correspondent Mark Tully just days
before his death, S.G.P.C. President Gurcharan Singh Tohra answered a question
about his personal views on Khalistan by admitting that 'some personal desires
are better kept hidden.'36 According to Ved Marwah, a former senior police
officer on Indira Gandhi's 'select committee for monitoring Punjab affairs,' a
majority of the Sikhs supported separatism in the wake of Operation Blue
Star.37 In a recent interview (Rediff, June 3, 2004), Lt. Gen. Kuldip Singh
Brar estimated that if Khalistan had been declared prior to Operation Blue
Star, 'a large section of the Punjab police might have crossed over to support
Bhindranwale.'
Myth #2: Only a Tiny Minority of Sikhs Revere Bhindranwale as a Martyr
In Khushwant Singh's words, '[Operation Blue Star] gave the movement for
Khalistan its first martyr in Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale.'38
In 1985, Harkishan Singh Surjeet had optimistically announced that
Bhindranwale's martyr status would only be 'temporary' (interview with Nikhil
Laxman of The Illustrated Weekly of India, reproduced in Samiuddin, Abida,
editor, The Punjab Crisis: Challenge and Response, New Delhi: Mittal
Publications, 1985).
However, on this day last year, Joginder Singh Vedanti, the jathedar (head
priest) of the Akal Takht, the Sikh Vatican, formally declared Bhindranwale a
'martyr' and awarded his son, Ishar Singh, with a siropa (robe of honor). The
function was organized by the Shiromani Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee
(S.G.P.C.), 'a sort of parliament of the Sikhs.' [Singh, Khushwant, A History
of the Sikhs: Volume 2: 1839-1988, (New Delhi: Oxford University Press), 1999,
p. 214.]39
The Encyclopedia of Sikhism, edited by Harbans Singh, a widely respected
scholar of Sikh studies, describes Bhindranwale as 'a phenomenal figure of
modern Sikhism.'40
Bhindranwale's posters and speeches are among the 'most popular' items at
Punjab's rural fairs, held on occasions such as the Hola Mohalla festival.41
Gurtej Singh Brar, a former I.A.S. officer and S.G.P.C. National Professor of
Sikhism, was suspended from the I.A.S. for making the following statement: 'The
Sikh nation theory has been current among the Sikhs since the time of Guru
Nanak. There should be others like Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale to lead the
Sikhs and take up their cause of righteousness and truth.'42
Several North American gurdwaras prominently display Bhindranwale's pictures at
entrances and in langar halls (community kitchens). This writer has personally
witnessed the phenomenon at gurdwaras in Detroit, Michigan and Toronto, Ontario
(see picture above).
In the words of Vir Sanghvi (Imprint magazine, February 1986), one of India's
leading political commentators, '[Bhindranwale] remains a martyr in the eyes of
many Sikhs. Even today, rare is the Sikh politician who will dare to call him
what he was: a fanatic and a murderer.'43
Myth #1: Bhindranwale Was Not a Terrorist
In 1985, Citizens for Democracy (C.F.D.), founded by Jayaprakash Narayan and
chaired by the noted civil libertarian Justice V.M. Tarkunde, produced a report
on the Punjab crisis. The report, banned in India because of its strong
indictment of the state, has received wide acceptance within the diaspora Sikh
community despite its acknowledgement of 'Bhindranwale's role in inciting
violence.'44
Violent thoughts seemed second nature to Bhindranwale. He often made extremely
cruel remarks with utmost sincerity, 'If a true Sikh drinks, he should be burnt
alive.'45 Tavleen Singh discovered that in Bhindranwale's darbar (court),
'concepts like non-violence were mocked and sneering remarks made about
Gandhi.'46 Perhaps Khushwant Singh said it best, 'He well understood that hate
was a stronger passion than love.'47
Although the 'mad monk'48 was politically astute enough to recant vicious
statements made in the heat of the moment, it is instructive to note just how
bellicose he was when aroused.
Harmit Singh Batra was in the Darbar Sahib complex on April 13, 1978 and quotes
Bhindranwale, 'We will not allow this Nirankari convention to take place. We
are going to march there and cut them to pieces!'49
Following the clash with the Nirankaris on April 13, 1978, the 'Sant' and his
cohorts were always armed. Bhindranwale often publicly recited his mantra,
'being armed, there is no sin greater than not seeking justice.'50 And they
perceived plenty of injustice all around, which they rectified with the use of
illegal force.
After the assassination of the Nirankari leader Gurbachan Singh on April 24,
1980, Bhindranwale is universally acknowledged to have remarked that if he ever
met Ranjit Singh, the suspected killer, he would weigh him in gold (i.e. reward
him with his weight in gold).51
On October 22, 1982, Bhindranwale made a public statement threatening the
'political and physical end' of anyone who didn't press for the full
implementation of the Anandpur Sahib Resolution.52
On August 17, 1983, Bhindranwale asked Sikh youth to buy a motorcycle and a
revolver and threatened to kill 5,000 Hindus in an hour if the police delayed
the mini bus he had sent to fetch Amrik Singh who had just been released from
police custody.53
During a speech on September 20, 1983, Bhindranwale stated clearly that he
would 'embrace' Sikhs who exacted revenge upon those who were guilty of
torturing, killing, or humiliating Sikhs. He said, 'Getting away from there is
your job, protecting you here [in the Darbar Sahib complex] is mine.'54
On November 17, 1983, Bhindranwale bluntly demanded 'that all Hindus should
leave Punjab.'55
During a public speech delivered on May 24, 1984 at the Darbar Sahib complex,
Bhindranwale openly admitted his complicity in the gruesome beheading of
Surinder Singh Chinda for his role in the elimination of Bhindranwale's leading
hit man, Surinder Singh Sodhi (Sandhu, p. 471.).
Even Bhindranwale's staunchest supporters only go as far as stating,
'Bhindranwale consistently opposed violence against any innocent person.'56 The
autocratic Bhindranwale had assumed singular jurisdiction over the guilt and
innocence of a good portion of India's citizens. And to him lethal violence was
a justified means of punishment for those whom he considered culpable. He was
the legislature, executive and judiciary all rolled into one with complete
disregard for the democratic concept of the separation of powers.
Dilbir Singh (see above) related the following account of how masterfully
Bhindranwale ordered the killing of Lala Jagat Narain, proprietor-editor of the
Hind Samachar group of newspapers:
And in one edition Lala had written in an editorial comment that Taura [then
president of the S.G.P.C.] and Ajnoha [then jathedar (head priest) of the Akal
Takht] are traitors. On that day in a great fury he [Bhindranwale] called upon
someone to read aloud what Lala had said. There was quiet. 'Our turban has been
torn from our heads,' he proclaimed. Then one of his followers asked, 'What are
your orders?' Again in anger, he said 'Orders, you need orders! What orders?
Are you blind?' Now you see he did not say anything. And they said it. 'O.K.'
meaning thereby, we'll finish this man. So, then, 3-4 days later, Lala was
coming from Ludhiana and they fired upon him.57
According to Chand Joshi, a veteran correspondent for The Hindustan Times, 'In
the Nirankari Baba murder case, for instance, the C.B.I. claimed to have
pin-pointed four suspects including Jarnail Singh Brar alias Sant Jarnail Singh
Bhindranwale. The arrest warrants had been given to the Punjab police but were
not served because of 'orders from the highest quarters.' '58
It is worth noting, 'The decision to release Bhindranwale was taken by the
[Indira Gandhi and Zail Singh] government. It was not the verdict of a
court.'59
Finally, it is impossible to accept that the people closest to Bhindranwale
could consistently perpetrate monstrous violence without his endorsement.
Nachhatar Singh, arrested by the police for the murder of Lala Jagat Narain, is
said to have fingered Bhindranwale for ordering the killing.60
The hijackers of an Indian Airlines plane on September 20, 1981 claimed to be
members of the Dal Khalsa and demanded the release of Bhindranwale, who had
been arrested in connection with the murder of Lala Jagat Narain.61 In a
speech, Bhindranwale 'praised his young lieutenants' for the hijacking.62
On July 18, 1982, a police party from the Beas Thana in Amritsar district
stopped a jeep. Most of the occupants were residents of Bhindranwale's gurdwara
Gurdarshan Parkash at Chowk Mehta. They attacked the police and were arrested.
No case was initiated.63
The next day, Amrik Singh, Bhindranwale's most trusted lieutenant, and six
close associates of Bhindranwale, including Bhindranwale's personal driver
Kulwant Singh, were arrested for an attempt on the life of Joginder Singh
Sandhu, the Nirankari Mandal's propaganda secretary.64
Concluding Remarks
In closing, here is a sampling of additional points to ponder:
Whilst the formally authorized Sikh code of conduct requires unshorn beards
only for amrit-dhari (baptized) Sikh men, Bhindranwale demanded unshorn and
open beards for all Sikh men.65
Whereas 'nobody was ever refused an interview,'66 he refused to surrender to
anyone but sufficiently orthodox Sikh policemen.67
While he professed the highest standards of Sikhism, he practiced gender
discrimination.68
Although he viewed modernity as evil, he had no compunctions about using modern
firearms.
Whereas many Sikhs regard him as a 'messiah,'69 his 1984 prophecy failed to
materialize: 'In the next ten years Sikhs will get their liberation. This will
definitely happen.'70
Bhindranwale might well be the most polarizing figure in Sikh history. This
essay acknowledges his numerous advocates but makes no apologies for expounding
on the preacher's flaws. To the extent that the Sikhs revere him as a prophet
and a martyr, his contradictions are likely to be emblematic of the paradoxes
that inflict the Sikh community as whole. To grapple with Bhindranwale's
inconsistencies is to critically evaluate the state of Sikhism today.
Notes and References
Mahmood, Cynthia Keppley, Fighting for Faith and Nation: Dialogues with Sikh
Militants (Philadelphia, PA: University of Pennsylvania Press, 1996), p. 69.
Mahmood, pp. 241-243.
Tully, Mark, 'After Blue Star,' Part 2, B.B.C., June 2004
Singh, Patwant and Harji Malik (editors), Punjab: The Fatal Miscalculation (New
Delhi: Patwant Singh, 1985), p. 219.
Singh, Khushwant, A History of the Sikhs, Volume 2: 1839-1988 (New Delhi:
Oxford University Press, 1999), p. 328.
Kaur, Naunidhi, Frontline, June 23, 2001.
Brar, Lt. Gen. K.S., Operation Blue Star: The True Story (New Delhi:
U.B.S.P.D., 1993), p. 114.
Akbar, M.J., India: The Siege Within: Challenges to a Nation's Unity (New
Delhi: U.B.S.P.D., 1996), p. 196.
Nayar, Kuldip and Khushwant Singh, Tragedy of Punjab: Operation Bluestar and
After (New Delhi: Vision Books, 1984), p. 97.
Tully, Mark and Satish Jacob, Amritsar: Mrs Gandhi's Last Battle (New Delhi:
Rupa & Co, 1985), p. 177.
Tully, p. 182.
Pettigrew, Joyce, The Sikhs of the Punjab: Unheard Voices of State and
Guerrilla Violence (London: Zed Books, 1995), pp. 34-35, 51.
Jaijee, Inderjit Singh, Politics of Genocide: Punjab (1984-1998) (Delhi: Ajanta
Publications, 1999), p. 59.
Sandhu, Ranbir Singh, Struggle for Justice: Speeches and Conversations of Sant
Jarnail Singh Khalsa Bhindranwale (Dublin, Ohio: Sikh Educational & Religious
Foundation, 1999), p. 285.
Tully, p. 113.
Singh, Khushwant, p. 332.
Tully, p. 61.
Joshi, Chand, Bhindranwale: Myth and Reality (New Delhi: Vikas Publishing
House, 1984), p. 85.
Joshi, p. 130.
Tully, p. 202.
Joshi, p. 26.
Lopez, Laura, 'India, Diamonds and the Smell of Death,' Time, June 25, 1984.
Jeffrey, Robin, What's Happening to India?, Second Edition (New York: Holmes &
Meier, 1994), pp. 146-147.
Mahmood, p. 249.
Jeffrey, p. 142.
Jeffrey, p. 168.
Kaur, Amarjit, et al, The Punjab Story (New Delhi: Roli Books International,
1984), pp. 76-78.
Sandhu, p. vi.
Sandhu, p. lvi.
Sandhu, p. lvii.
Mahmood, p. 128.
Jaijee, p. 34.
Joshi, p. 34.
Tully, p. 60.
Joshi, p. 129.
Tully, Mark, 'After Blue Star,' Part 3, B.B.C., June 2004
Jaijee, p. 30.
Singh, Khushwant, p. 378.
The Times of India and Outlook, June 7, 2003; Don't React, Editorial, The
Indian Express, June 9, 2003.
Singh, Harbans (editor-in-chief), The Encyclopaedia of Sikhism, Volume II
(Patiala: Punjabi University, 1996), p. 352.
Jolly, Asit, Reporting from Chandigarh, Punjab, B.B.C., March 31, 2002.
Joshi, p. 1.
Sandhu, p. xl.
Rao, Amiya, et al, Report to the Nation: Oppression in Punjab (Columbus, Ohio:
Sikh Religious and Educational Trust, 1986), p. 16.
Akbar, p. 181.
Kaur, Amarjit, et al, p. 39.
Singh, Khushwant, pp. 330-331.
Joshi, Inside front cover jacket.
Tully, p. 59.
Sandhu, p. vi.
Sandhu, p. vi.
Joshi, p. 120.
Joshi, p. 144.
Sandhu, p. 286.
Joshi, pp. 148-149.
Sandhu, p. xxi.
Pettigrew, p. 34.
Joshi, p. 78.
Tully, p. 69.
Joshi, p. 88.
Joshi, p. 91.
Juergensmeyer, Mark, Terror in the Mind of God: The Global Rise of Religious
Violence, Third Edition, Berkeley: University of California Press, 2003, p.
100.
Joshi, p. 115.
Joshi, p. 115.
Singh, Tavleen in Amarjit Kaur, et al, p. 34.
Joshi, p. 34.
This is a reference to Bhindranwale's insistence that Indira Gandhi, being a
woman, should be the one to visit him for negotiations.
Singh, Tavleen in Amarjit Kaur, et al, p. 41.
Akbar, M.J., India: The Siege Within: Challenges to a Nation's Unity (New
Delhi: U.B.S.P.D.), 1985, p. 185, cited in Harjot Oberoi's essay 'Sikh
Fundamentalism: Translating History into Theory' in Fundamentalisms and the
State: Remaking Polities, Economies, and Militance edited by Martin E. Marty
and R. Scott Appleby (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1993), p. 268.
Surinder Singh
"HiTMaN 9497" <hitma...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale: Top Five Bhindranwale Myths
>
Glad that there are many who recognize Bhindrawale as a terrorist, and not
much more.
-s
HiTMaN 9497
>Glad that there are many who recognize Bhindrawale as a terrorist, and not
>much more.
And what acts of terror did Sant Jarnail Singh supposedly carry out?
Parry
and what evil acts Gobind ram carried carried out that he was killed
by cowards along with his young son like gobind singh's children?
and remember gobind ram faught till last
true warrior
didnt surrender to the diktats of a terrorist like jarnaila the dog
HiTMaN 9497
>and what evil acts Gobind ram carried carried out that he was killed
>by cowards along with his young son like gobind singh's children?
This Hindu kutta and his son like many other Hindus were killed and we are all
proud of this. Not only are Hindus killed but we also like to destroy your
false stone gods and walk over their smashed pieces with our boots.
>and remember gobind ram faught till last
The nigger Hindu died could not fight because he was a Hindu. He could only
torture those only in custody. You fucking faggot LOLOLOLOL
>didnt surrender to the diktats of a terrorist like jarnaila the dog
Thats why over 300 Hindu monkeys dressed as soldiers were killed by only a
handful of Singhs and were forced to use a tank inside the Golden Temple
complex.
Fucking curry nigger LOL.
Parry
> >From: par...@aol.com (Parry)
>
> >and what evil acts Gobind ram carried carried out that he was killed
> >by cowards along with his young son like gobind singh's children?
>
> This Hindu kutta and his son like many other Hindus were killed
who? gobind ram or singh or rai?
>and we are all
> proud of this.
you have been publicly reprimanded earlier for not speaking for other
sikhs.
but you are a lowlife bhappa u would never learn if it goes against ur
profit-seeking designs.
>Not only are Hindus killed but we also like to destroy your
> false stone gods and walk over their smashed pieces with our boots.
singing "deho shiva var mohhe ihhe...."?
you are a looser. looser in india Looser in pommyland.
the way muslims killed gobind singh and his kids and filled harmandir
with cowblood and killed any sikhs they could lay their hands on and
raped their women? u can do all that oye khusre de Paki Sick aulad?
>
> >and remember gobind ram faught till last
>
> The nigger Hindu died could not fight because he was a Hindu. He could only
> torture those only in custody. You fucking faggot LOLOLOLOL
son of a mongrel bitch he did not hide inside any temple. inspite of
his very son being killed by treacherous terrorists he still attended
office. not hidden behind pilgrims like jarnaila the dog. had he been
a fighter he would have stayed outside harmandir. you are a scumbag of
the same degree and your posts do nothing but justify those who
perpetrated 1984 riots. u are lucky u gutless cyber bhappa warrior
(!!!) to be alive today.
>
> >didnt surrender to the diktats of a terrorist like jarnaila the dog
>
> Thats why over 300 Hindu monkeys dressed as soldiers were killed by only a
> handful of Singhs and were forced to use a tank inside the Golden Temple
> complex.
handful of Singhs? and u often mention 1000s were killed inside
harmandir in Blue star? nothing but typical lieing paki kirrar. sound
so frustrated as ur sister must have refused ur perverted advances.
>
> Fucking curry nigger LOL.
do they know u by this name in pommyland?
R1
You slut, here you are! Come back to s.c.p. I want you to toss my salad.
you kaali gaand slut. :)
R1
parry baby, i thought there were no arguments in india such as the one
you are arguing right now? Stop being a racist to this nice hitman
fellow.
Parry
no, as usual u were wrong. too many arguments in india and every tom
dick and shitmian has a right to express herself/himself in whatever
way. no stoning to death for blaspheming Indian Gods or simple dissent
as in neighboring cursed pakiland.
being a racist !!!!
now i have to teach u definition of RACIST
do some effort of ur own and try to learn what is a Racist
R1
Actually, my comment was not about the liberties of free speech... I
was questioning your complete denial of the existence of social,
communal, racial, seperatist conflict in India.
So stop changing the subject and answer the question. Don't go on
another tangent about Pakistan... Just provide an answer.
Also you have to respond to Indians ridiculing Tamils for no reason.
Thanks.
- Your friend.
Parry
> > > >
> > > > singing "deho shiva var mohhe ihhe...."?
> > > >
> > > > you are a looser. looser in india Looser in pommyland.
> > > >
>
> > > >
thus wrote amma-ka-yaar:
> > > parry baby, i thought there were no arguments in india such as the one
> > > you are arguing right now? Stop being a racist to this nice hitman
> > > fellow.
i would certainly provide a reply to a query posed in a un-paki like
civilised manner.
but from where did TAMILS come in this thread!
you charged me of being a RACIST, why?
and where did i deny that India has "no arguments"?
there are plenty of differences as India is not a homogenous entity.
in fact, i consider such diferences to be signs of a vibrant and
diverse society we have in india.
but u called me RACIST and u have to qualify this baseless allegation
or apologise.
put up or shut-up.
re tamils
it is so ironical
a person who has been going out of his skins to rant and rave about
Kaali G****s and his own, as implied, goriG would have a cheek to call
someone (who has been totally unbiased about skin pigments) a racist!
and indians vs tamils
what sense it makes?
tamil nadu v much (and happily) part of india so they are indians too
and what u have been writing about tamils btw?
would like to revisit those sickening opinion pieces u penned?
R1 wrote:
Eww sick, im not like that. I dont worship fair skin, but comparing
hrithik to madhavan is a joke. Hrithik and Akshay are taller and well
built unlike madhavan. Oh yes, tamil actors being butt-ugly is a fact.
If they weren't there would be no need to hire non-tamils like Ajith,
or brahmins like madhavan,and prashant. I mean look, if u dont think
tamil actors are ugly, just take a look at some "stars" of tamil
cinema: vijaykant,arjun,pandiaraj,sathyaraj,prabu,parthiban,prabhu
deva, etc do you find any of these guys remotely attractive? How do
they make it in tamil cinema as actors then?
Surinder Singh
He carried unlicenced guns. He threatened the Jathedars of Golden Temple.
There is extensive evidence linking him to the killing of Lala Jagat Narain.
He carried weapons in the Golden Temple precincts when even the Gurus and
the Great Shaheeds left theirs outside. He let loose a rein of terrror
inside the Golden Temple. The body of police chief Brar (did i get the name
correct) was lying and was not allowed to be picked by him. The book by
very well respected BBC corrospondents Satish Jacobs and Mark Tully,
"Amritsar, Indira Gandhi's Last Battle" gives more evidence of his terror
tactics.
It is a sad day that Sikhs who have had genuine true saints for the last
many centuries (and still have) have to hold this Bhindrawale in regard. It
is not that we lack true saints.
-sps
R1
> yaar...@yahoo.com (R1) wrote in message
>
> > > > >
> > > > > singing "deho shiva var mohhe ihhe...."?
> > > > >
> > > > > you are a looser. looser in india Looser in pommyland.
> > > > >
>
> > > > >
> > > > > son of a mongrel bitch he did not hide inside any temple. inspite of
> > > > > his very son being killed by treacherous terrorists he still attended
> > > > > office. not hidden behind pilgrims like jarnaila the dog. had he been
> > > > > a fighter he would have stayed outside harmandir. you are a scumbag of
> > > > > the same degree and your posts do nothing but justify those who
> > > > > perpetrated 1984 riots. u are lucky u gutless cyber bhappa warrior
> > > > > (!!!) to be alive today.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >didnt surrender to the diktats of a terrorist like jarnaila the dog
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thats why over 300 Hindu monkeys dressed as soldiers were killed by only a
> > > > > > handful of Singhs and were forced to use a tank inside the Golden Temple
> > > > > > complex.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > handful of Singhs? and u often mention 1000s were killed inside
> > > > > harmandir in Blue star? nothing but typical lieing paki kirrar. sound
> > > > > so frustrated as ur sister must have refused ur perverted advances.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Fucking curry nigger LOL.
> > > > >
> > > > > do they know u by this name in pommyland?
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > parry baby, i thought there were no arguments in india such as the one
> > > > you are arguing right now? Stop being a racist to this nice hitman
> > > > fellow.
> > >
> > >
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> > > no, as usual u were wrong. too many arguments in india and every tom
> > > dick and shitmian has a right to express herself/himself in whatever
> > > way. no stoning to death for blaspheming Indian Gods or simple dissent
> > > as in neighboring cursed pakiland.
> > >
> and indians vs tamils
>
> what sense it makes?
>
> tamil nadu v much (and happily) part of india so they are indians too
>
>
> and what u have been writing about tamils btw?
> would like to revisit those sickening opinion pieces u penned?
>
>
>
> R1 wrote:
> Eww sick, im not like that. I dont worship fair skin, but comparing
> hrithik to madhavan is a joke. Hrithik and Akshay are taller and well
> built unlike madhavan. Oh yes, tamil actors being butt-ugly is a fact.
> If they weren't there would be no need to hire non-tamils like Ajith,
> or brahmins like madhavan,and prashant. I mean look, if u dont think
> tamil actors are ugly, just take a look at some "stars" of tamil
> cinema: vijaykant,arjun,pandiaraj,sathyaraj,prabu,parthiban,prabhu
> deva, etc do you find any of these guys remotely attractive? How do
> they make it in tamil cinema as actors then?
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Ladies and gentlemen, watch as I explode Parry's Kaali Gaand.
Parry, why did you leave out the rest of this post?
Here is the REST of the post that parry "forgot"
> R1 wrote (IN ENTIRETY THIS TIME):
> Eww sick, im not like that. I dont worship fair skin, but comparing
> hrithik to madhavan is a joke. Hrithik and Akshay are taller and well
> built unlike madhavan. Oh yes, tamil actors being butt-ugly is a fact.
> If they weren't there would be no need to hire non-tamils like Ajith,
> or brahmins like madhavan,and prashant. I mean look, if u dont think
> tamil actors are ugly, just take a look at some "stars" of tamil
> cinema: vijaykant,arjun,pandiaraj,sathyaraj,prabu,parthiban,prabhu
> deva, etc do you find any of these guys remotely attractive? How do
> they make it in tamil cinema as actors then?
> It's all about skin color, caste, region, religion... very sad.
Parry's sorry response:
> >>
> >> very sad indeed u have to crawl out of ur rat-hole to comment on Tamil actors!
> >>
> >> butt-out ugly racist
> >
(MY CLARIFICATION)
> >IDIOT - the above is an indian's comment. I am glad you agree it is
> >racist though... But I suppose now that you know it is written by an
> >Indian, you will break out the statistics.
>
>
Another poster laughing at Parry....
> heheh good catch...
(More Shaan Masala for Parry's julli vi gaaand)
Parry will conveniently be too busy with 'business engagements' to
answer this latest entrapment.
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Entrapment #38
Thought you were really tricky and slimey huh???
I am so sick of banging you Parry, really, I need you to challenge me
not just bend over.
koolfire_or
hehehehe paki choora addressing yur dad and mom....who else will
listen to a halfhindu,machod son of devdasi.....just make it dear
devdasi mummy and sulla havaldhar daddy...then yak yak
yak.............ladies and gentelmen,my arse.
hehehehhe challenge.....paindoo paki chamar r1, first go and get
everyone's dick out of yur devdasi mummy's hole...that by itself will
be yur biggest challenge,cabbie boy