Muslim Punjabis
Unkown
didn't even know the Kalimah !!!!!
I also heard that many Punjabi Muslims in the rural villages still carry on
many old Hindu customs and practises and use the old Hindu calendar !!
I already knew about the Lahore Basant fair and the clebration of Vaisakhi
which is bad enough but apparently there is more !!!
Hardly any Punjabi women wear Jilbab and Khimar, why ? Instead they wear a
salwaar kameez and dupatta which is HARAAM to wear in public !
What the hell is going on in Punjab ? Why are we Punjabi Muslims so lax in
our deen ??
Amarjeet Patnager
ASP
Unkown wrote in message ...
S Singh Sandhu
Lahore was once a sikh capital and is not that far from
Amritsar btw. What is a jihab and khimar ? Isn't the Salwar
Kamezz the national dress or something? Btw what are u?
Unkown" <unk...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>My father recently told me he had met a youth from a Punjabi village who>didn't even know the Kalimah !!!!!
>
>I also heard that many Punjabi Muslims in the rural villages still carry on
>many old Hindu customs and practises and use the old Hindu calendar !!
>
>I already knew about the Lahore Basant fair and the clebration of Vaisakhi
>which is bad enough but apparently there is more !!!
>
gan...@my-dejanews.com
"Unkown" <unk...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> My father recently told me he had met a youth from a Punjabi village who
> didn't even know the Kalimah !!!!!
>
> I also heard that many Punjabi Muslims in the rural villages still carry on
> many old Hindu customs and practises and use the old Hindu calendar !!
These are 2500 year old Saka customs, practises and dress - 50 year
old Mohajarji.
There were no "Hindus" or "Hindusthan" prior to their invention by Ghori,
the Afghan conquorer of the 12th century. The northwest has been a Saka
stronghold since 500 BC when Saka tribes began ruling, settling and farming
the region. Saka coins and inscriptions have been found from Peshawar
to Mathura and Multan to Ujjain (Indus-Ganga country).
Maurya, Kushana, Jauvla, Chastana and Jarta (misnamed "Gupta" by fudu
historians) coins clearly show the kings wearning turbans,
kurta-pajama/salwar-kameez/jodhpuri type male dress. This is still the
mainstream dress of the Saka population (65%) in the northwest - almost all,
Rajputs, Jats, Sikhs and others have retained it despite dasya-Bahman
infiltration after the demise of Buddhism, post 10th century AD.
We also know from Herrodotus (5th century) that Sakas main staple was wheat
and they consumed a lot of onions and liqor. Just in case, a Mohajar
"2-nation" ignoramus and fraud like you next starts calling onions and wheat
"Hindu food", Gangu Brahmins (your blood brothers) forbid the use of onions
in their holy books - its "too hot" for the bhiyas.
>
> I already knew about the Lahore Basant fair and the clebration of Vaisakhi
> which is bad enough but apparently there is more !!!
Again, Sakas considered farming and soldiering to be the noble
professions and VaSAKI is a Saka harvest festival when Sakas
used to (and still) celebrate, party and do the Bhangra. Jats, Gujars,
many Rajputs, Ahirs, Tarkhans, Lohars, etc. and other agrarian communities
of northwest are derived from Saka tribes.
>
> Hardly any Punjabi women wear Jilbab and Khimar, why ? Instead they wear a
> salwaar kameez and dupatta which is HARAAM to wear in public !
Why should they. Neither do Mongolian women in Mongolia, Mohajarji. Then,
why dont Harami-Mohajirs leave Sakasthan and go back to Mongolia or bedouin
land. Lets see if they take you back - with or without or Jilbab and Khimar!
>
> What the hell is going on in Punjab ? Why are we Punjabi Muslims so lax in
> our deen ??
They should send all the 3% bhiya-mohajirs either to their bhiya homeland
or to Mongolia and let them do their "deen" there instead of boring Sakas
with their "ka ka ka".
By the way, you fellas should be leaning and striving for Arabic to be
your national Islamic language - shouldnt you. Urdu is a bastardized
bhiya-farsi-mougli-turki lingua perfected in the janan-khanas of
lucknow. I dont think Prophet Mohammed will take this "ka ka ka" very
lightly when he finds that in 60 years of your bhiya life you were
too busy listening to Galib and munching pan to learn the "sacred"
Islamic language.
Also, he hates Moguls for destroying the Islamic kindoms of central asia,
turning Mosques into stables, and looting and burning the eastern center
of Islamic civilization - Baghdad. So if you have even a speck of
Mongolian-mohajir blood, there is no point in being good Islamacist
or doing the Ramadan or telling Punjabis to do their deen. All of
Chengiz Khans and Babar's aulaud are permanently barred from Paradise.
The only hope is to go back to your fella Bhiyas in Dasyaland and
leave the Sakas alone in peace.
Gandasa
PS. One last thing. I dont see why Sakas, who have 2500 year history
and traditions in Sakasthan, should give them up for some lost cow
from Mongolia - just so they can carve up a new 50 year Mohajar
Bhiya Sultanate on Saka territory after being driven out by their
Bhiya Bahman brothers !
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Mo
My father recently told me he had met a youth from a Punjabi
village who
didn't even know the Kalimah !!!!!
I also heard that many Punjabi Muslims in the rural villages
still carry on
many old Hindu customs and practises and use the old Hindu
calendar !!
I already knew about the Lahore Basant fair and the
clebration of Vaisakhi
which is bad enough but apparently there is more !!!
Hardly any Punjabi women wear Jilbab and Khimar, why ?
Instead they wear a
salwaar kameez and dupatta which is HARAAM to wear in public
!
What the hell is going on in Punjab ? Why are we Punjabi
Unknown
I am a Punjabi myself !!!
gan...@my-dejanews.com wrote in message
<77b1n5$v6l$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>In article <eEquHJDP#GA....@ntawwabp.compuserve.com>,
> "Unkown" <unk...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> My father recently told me he had met a youth from a Punjabi village who
>> didn't even know the Kalimah !!!!!
>>
>> I also heard that many Punjabi Muslims in the rural villages still carry
on
>> many old Hindu customs and practises and use the old Hindu calendar !!
>
>These are 2500 year old Saka customs, practises and dress - 50 year
>old Mohajarji.
>
>There were no "Hindus" or "Hindusthan" prior to their invention by Ghori,
>the Afghan conquorer of the 12th century. The northwest has been a Saka
>stronghold since 500 BC when Saka tribes began ruling, settling and farming
>the region. Saka coins and inscriptions have been found from Peshawar
>to Mathura and Multan to Ujjain (Indus-Ganga country).
>
>Maurya, Kushana, Jauvla, Chastana and Jarta (misnamed "Gupta" by fudu
>historians) coins clearly show the kings wearning turbans,
>kurta-pajama/salwar-kameez/jodhpuri type male dress. This is still the
>mainstream dress of the Saka population (65%) in the northwest - almost
all,
>Rajputs, Jats, Sikhs and others have retained it despite dasya-Bahman
>infiltration after the demise of Buddhism, post 10th century AD.
>
>We also know from Herrodotus (5th century) that Sakas main staple was wheat
>and they consumed a lot of onions and liqor. Just in case, a Mohajar
>"2-nation" ignoramus and fraud like you next starts calling onions and
wheat
>"Hindu food", Gangu Brahmins (your blood brothers) forbid the use of onions
>in their holy books - its "too hot" for the bhiyas.
>
>>
>> I already knew about the Lahore Basant fair and the clebration of
Vaisakhi
>> which is bad enough but apparently there is more !!!
>
>Again, Sakas considered farming and soldiering to be the noble
>professions and VaSAKI is a Saka harvest festival when Sakas
>used to (and still) celebrate, party and do the Bhangra. Jats, Gujars,
>many Rajputs, Ahirs, Tarkhans, Lohars, etc. and other agrarian communities
>of northwest are derived from Saka tribes.
>
>>
>> Hardly any Punjabi women wear Jilbab and Khimar, why ? Instead they wear
a
>> salwaar kameez and dupatta which is HARAAM to wear in public !
>
>Why should they. Neither do Mongolian women in Mongolia, Mohajarji. Then,
>why dont Harami-Mohajirs leave Sakasthan and go back to Mongolia or bedouin
>land. Lets see if they take you back - with or without or Jilbab and
Khimar!
>
>>
>> What the hell is going on in Punjab ? Why are we Punjabi Muslims so lax
in
>> our deen ??
>
Jamil Raza
>
> My father recently told me he had met a youth from a Punjabi village who
> didn't even know the Kalimah !!!!!
> I also heard that many Punjabi Muslims in the rural villages still carry on
> many old Hindu customs and practises and use the old Hindu calendar !!
> I already knew about the Lahore Basant fair and the clebration of Vaisakhi
> which is bad enough but apparently there is more !!!
> Hardly any Punjabi women wear Jilbab and Khimar, why ? Instead they wear a
> salwaar kameez and dupatta which is HARAAM to wear in public !
>
> What the hell is going on in Punjab ? Why are we Punjabi Muslims so lax in
> our deen ??
dheen dharam dhee mekuN loR na kai,
hik darsan yaar dha loRaN,
kafir! kafir! har koi akhay,
tay meN hargiz muhN naN moRaN.......
Yaar Farid.
Hope this helps camel-jockey,
Jatt
sandeep
Jamil Raza wrote:
ikk alaf parro chhutkara e
kio parrna e Gadd kitabaN di
kio chahna e Pand ajabaN di
Hun hoiyoN shakal JalladaN di
aage painde mushkil bhara e
ikk alaf parro chhutkara e
baN hafaZ hifaZ kuran kareN
parr parr ke saaf zubaan kareN
phir niamataN vich dhyaan kareN
man phirda jio halkara e
ikk alaf parro chhutkara e!!
Baba Bulleh Shah ji!!
Unknown
I'm a Punjabi not an Arab.
Jamil Raza wrote in message <36993F...@sun.leeds.ac.uk>...
Jamil Raza
>
> Camel-Jockey da puttar !!
>
> I'm a Punjabi not an Arab.
But you seem determined to turn us all into Arabs.
Jamil
Unknown
(Pakistan) I have noticed alot of laxness in the peoples practising of
Islam.
It says in the Quran : "Enter into Islam completely."
There is no room for Hindu customs (or for that matter Arab/Persian customs)
in Islam.
Only what is in the Quran and the Sunnah.
Jamil Raza wrote in message <369D18...@sun.leeds.ac.uk>...
gan...@my-dejanews.com
"Unknown" <unkown...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> No...I wan't us to be proper Muslims. I was just pointing out that in Punjab
> (Pakistan) I have noticed alot of laxness in the peoples practising of
> Islam.
>
> It says in the Quran : "Enter into Islam completely."
Sounds very earth-shatering "Unknown". But do you
have to "enter" from Punjab ?
Why not try from Benaras, Lucknow or Mongolia?
>
> There is no room for Hindu customs (or for that matter Arab/Persian customs)
> in Islam.
How about Saka customs, meLord?
>
> Only what is in the Quran and the Sunnah.
Can you read them?
>
> Jamil Raza wrote in message <369D18...@sun.leeds.ac.uk>...
> >Unknown wrote:
> >>
> >> Camel-Jockey da puttar !!
> >>
> >> I'm a Punjabi not an Arab.
> >
> >But you seem determined to turn us all into Arabs.
> >
> >Jamil
>
>
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sandeep
gan...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> In article <916280384.4263.0...@news.demon.co.uk>,
> "Unknown" <unkown...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > No...I wan't us to be proper Muslims. I was just pointing out that in Punjab
> > (Pakistan) I have noticed alot of laxness in the peoples practising of
> > Islam.
> >
> > It says in the Quran : "Enter into Islam completely."
>
> Sounds very earth-shatering "Unknown". But do you
> have to "enter" from Punjab ?
>
> Why not try from Benaras, Lucknow or Mongolia?
>
Punjabi Hindus and Muslims are STUPID!! like this unknow Muslim!!!
By "entering into Islam completely" you are ending your culture!!
SO essentially that was the idea of Mohammad when he created Islam! (which itself
means submission)
Muslims, Hindus and Sikhs!! Submit only to God, Ram, Waheguru, (but not Arabian
Allah residing in Kabah, because I am
pretty sure it is not )!! Do not submit yourself to Arabian customs!!!! Be
independent and you will succeed!!
Life and let live!!!!!
Sandeep Singh Bajwa
Unknown
Allah does not reside in the Kaabah. To believe that is Kufr (disbelief).
Allah is everywhere in his knowledge and power and his will encompasses all
things. Nothing happens except by his leave. It is mentioned in the Quran
that Allah his above his Arsh (throne). The manner of his seating on the
Arsh is not to be delved into and is not like a humans for "there is nothing
like him". Whoever believes that Allah resides in his creation or is in a
particular direction is a Kafir.
We face the Kaabah to pray simply because that is what the Messenger of
Allah (SAW) instructed us to do. We do not worship the black stone or the
Kaabah.
Sandeep...you had better sit down and count how many words of Arabic there
are in Punjabi and eliminate them all, and believe me there are too many to
count. You cannot say a sentence in Punjabi without using at least
one or two Arabic words. After that please stop singing Awale Allah Noor
Upaya...in fact Awale is Arabic so is Allah and so is Noor...all three are
Arabic words. Oh and lets not forget the constant use of the word Rabb by
Sikhs, get rid of that too as Rabb is Arabic for Lord/God. No more saying
Waaheguru tera Shukur...because Shukur is Arabic.
Also what do you say to non-Punjabi Sikhs...abandon your own culture and
follow the ways of Punjabi "Gurus" ? I'm sure you wouldn't want them to be
sell outs.
This sort of pathetic, shallow blind following of ones forefathers is
mentioned in the Quran. When the Prophet (SAW) brought the Makkans the
message of Islam, the message of One God, they replied by saying they follow
what their forefathers brought.
"And if they said to them follow what Allah has revealed, they said but we
follow what our forefathers left for us. Even if their forefathers
understood not, and were not guided." [TMQ 2:170]
Muhammad (SAW) did not invent Islam...it is the message of all the prophets
from Adam (AS) till Muhammad(SAW).
Lastly...Islam certainly means submission. I am proud to be a slave of my
Creator not a slave to the whims and desires of any human being.
sandeep wrote in message <369EB211...@home.com>...
Mo
Creator not a slave to the whims and desires of any human
being.<
existent God superior ie his mediators -messengers and
priests . Truly monotheism robs humans of their freedom and
self respect..
sur...@hotmail.com
>
> Muslims, Hindus and Sikhs!! Submit only to God, Ram, Waheguru, (but not Arabi
...Waheguru was some Dhoti-clad Faggot who taught the Sikhs their bad hygine
habits. The son of a bitch left this planet with a whole bunch of Towel head
followers who don' know how to shave or go to the barber once in a while!
UUGH!!!
ek_pak...@my-dejanews.com
sur...@hotmail.com wrote:
> In article <369EB211...@home.com>,
>
> >
> > Muslims, Hindus and Sikhs!! Submit only to God, Ram, Waheguru, (but not
Arabi
>
> ...Waheguru was some Dhoti-clad Faggot who taught the Sikhs their bad hygine
> habits. The son of a bitch left this planet with a whole bunch of Towel head
> followers who don' know how to shave or go to the barber once in a while!
> UUGH!!!
....fully agreed.
Ek Pakistani
Jamil Raza
>
> No...I wan't us to be proper Muslims. I was just pointing out that in Punjab
> (Pakistan) I have noticed alot of laxness in the peoples practising of
> Islam.
>
> It says in the Quran : "Enter into Islam completely."
>
> in Islam.
>
Who gives a fuck about religion? We Jatts, our culture, language and our
identity, have suffered enough during the last 50 years. Its people
like you who lick Arab backsides that have given our Punjab a bad name.
Our great forefathers were Hindus-Buddhists and even today we Jatts are
50% culturally Hindu-Buddhist. It is a part of our identity, and we
aren't going to dump our identity for camel-jockey breeds like you. In
fact, the greatest period in our history was when we were
Hindus-Buddhists, not Muslims. Under our King Raja Jaipal we not only
had our freedom and honour but we had also subjugated surrounding
nations and tribes, including your beloved Pakhtuns.
Jamil
Unknown
Change it to Balwinder or something...I mean you wouldn't want to be
associated with Arabs would you ?
Jamil Raza wrote in message <36A097...@sun.leeds.ac.uk>...
Mo
Momin
ek_pak...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> > ...Waheguru was some Dhoti-clad Faggot who taught the Sikhs their bad hygine
> > habits. The son of a bitch left this planet with a whole bunch of Towel head
> > followers who don' know how to shave or go to the barber once in a while!
> > UUGH!!!
> ....fully agreed.
> Ek Pakistani
Actually the truth is that the word waheguru is meant to signal the arrival
of a towering sikh in the vicinity. This means that any paindoo lady within the
hearing distance will automatically drop salwar in eager anticipation of a
reward of a Sikh lingam and procreation. Had this not been the case, you
like the rest of your paindoo brethren would still be water drops in the
eye of your Sikh fathers...
sandeep
Unknown wrote:
> Allah is composed of two words Al-Lah (THE GOD).
>
> Allah does not reside in the Kaabah. To believe that is Kufr (disbelief).
>
> Allah is everywhere in his knowledge and power and his will encompasses all
> things. Nothing happens except by his leave. It is mentioned in the Quran
> that Allah his above his Arsh (throne). The manner of his seating on the
> Arsh is not to be delved into and is not like a humans for "there is nothing
> like him". Whoever believes that Allah resides in his creation or is in a
> particular direction is a Kafir.
Good!!
>
>
> We face the Kaabah to pray simply because that is what the Messenger of
> Allah (SAW) instructed us to do. We do not worship the black stone or the
> Kaabah.
Well!! I met Messenger of Allah (SAW) yesterday and he instructed me to tell the
worldthat from now on you should face towards Golden Temple Amritsar! and be
Khalsa of Punjab!!
> Sandeep...you had better sit down and count how many words of Arabic there
> are in Punjabi and eliminate them all, and believe me there are too many to
> count. You cannot say a sentence in Punjabi without using at least
> one or two Arabic words. After that please stop singing Awale Allah Noor
> Upaya...in fact Awale is Arabic so is Allah and so is Noor...all three are
> Arabic words. Oh and lets not forget the constant use of the word Rabb by
> Sikhs, get rid of that too as Rabb is Arabic for Lord/God. No more saying
> Waaheguru tera Shukur...because Shukur is Arabic.
First of all Shukar, Shukriya, Shukran is Farsi!SO!!?????? What is the point??
If Arabic was not there then some other language!!Sikhs speak common langauge of
Punjab and Sikh gurus did not deliberately put any Hindi,
Sanskrit, Farsi or Arabic words in it!!
> Also what do you say to non-Punjabi Sikhs...abandon your own culture and
> follow the ways of Punjabi "Gurus" ? I'm sure you wouldn't want them to be
> sell outs.
NO!! There are many Maharashtrian, Bihari, African Sikhs who are total Khalsa!!
> This sort of pathetic, shallow blind following of ones forefathers is
> mentioned in the Quran. When the Prophet (SAW) brought the Makkans the
> message of Islam, the message of One God, they replied by saying they follow
> what their forefathers brought.
So Prophet told you to follow his forefather and forget yours!! :)
Message of God is that all humanity is equal irrespective of their religion!!
UNDERSTAND IT!!!
Bhai Mani Singh was arrested by the Subedar of Lahore who wanted him to convert
to Islam or
face death!! Bhai Mani Singh told him "If Islam was a true religion then God
should have made
all men circumsized". In my opinion Islam is no truer then Sikhism or Hinduism
or Christianity!!
on the contrary it is most unhumane!!
> "And if they said to them follow what Allah has revealed, they said but we
> follow what our forefathers left for us. Even if their forefathers
> understood not, and were not guided." [TMQ 2:170]
Allah revealed that everybody should follow Arabian Customs!! :)
Well my Allah revealed that everybody should be proud of their ancestors and
culture and heritage!!
who is correct and more humane?
> Muhammad (SAW) did not invent Islam...it is the message of all the prophets
> from Adam (AS) till Muhammad(SAW).
So who did?!!! Once again!! This world follow two type of religions!! one that
were invented (made) in
Jerusalem (Middle East) others that were made (Invented) in north India!!
Judaism, Christianity, Islam <-- people who were nomads and lived off hunting!!
( so all the customs of food sacrifice, etc are
not revealed by God but
simple passed on from generations)! Whenever hunters returned
they impregnated women and
the went off to hunting again!! Women and children lived!!
These types of people were
more or less barbarians and invaders!! devoid of any spirituality!
as they seldom wrote any
books! in fact they burned down libraries, etc!! Judaism, Christianity
and islam started off as a
cults by a single person (who was persecuted, humiliated, in all cases)!!
Hinduism, Jainism, Budhism, Sikhism < - people who were agrigarians and belived
in cultivating the crops!! all people believed
in sharing and family values! that is why one man one wife! and those
type of more humane relationships! where there were families and villages
living together!!!! Books such great as Vedas, Upnishads were written
poems like Mahabharta and Ramayana were written (Mahabharta is
the longest poem in world and was written in Punjab about 1500 years
Before Islam)
NOW!! you have choice to follow one type of religion!! which one will you
follow??
Religions that insist that "We are right and everybody else is wrong, like the
one's from middle east" or religions like "Everyone is right and
creation of Same God" like the one's from India!!
> Lastly...Islam certainly means submission. I am proud to be a slave of my
> Creator not a slave to the whims and desires of any human being.
Sure!! we all are slaves of God!!!! but I am slave of Mohammad! :) Neither am I
slave of Guru Nanak or Guru Gobind!! Guru Nanak and Guru
Gobind are my mentor !! Nanak and Gobind are my teachers! and not Masters!! My
master is only one and that is God!!
Sandeep Singh Bajwa
>
>
> sandeep wrote in message <369EB211...@home.com>...
> >
> >
> >gan...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> >
> >> In article <916280384.4263.0...@news.demon.co.uk>,
> >> "Unknown" <unkown...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> > No...I wan't us to be proper Muslims. I was just pointing out that in
> Punjab
> >> > (Pakistan) I have noticed alot of laxness in the peoples practising of
> >> > Islam.
> >> >
> >> > It says in the Quran : "Enter into Islam completely."
> >>
> >> Sounds very earth-shatering "Unknown". But do you
> >> have to "enter" from Punjab ?
> >>
> >> Why not try from Benaras, Lucknow or Mongolia?
> >>
> >
> >Punjabi Hindus and Muslims are STUPID!! like this unknow Muslim!!!
> >
> >By "entering into Islam completely" you are ending your culture!!
> >
> >SO essentially that was the idea of Mohammad when he created Islam! (which
> itself
> >means submission)
> >
> >Muslims, Hindus and Sikhs!! Submit only to God, Ram, Waheguru, (but not
> Arabian
> >Allah residing in Kabah, because I am
> >pretty sure it is not )!! Do not submit yourself to Arabian customs!!!! Be
> >independent and you will succeed!!
> >
> >Life and let live!!!!!
> >
> >Sandeep Singh Bajwa
> >
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>Well my Allah revealed that everybody should be proud of their ancestors and
culture and heritage!!<
Including Sikhs of their Hindu Punjabi heritage :) ..
Mo
>Well my Allah revealed that everybody should be proud of their ancestors and
culture and heritage!!<
Including Sikhs and Muslims of their Hindu Punjabi heritage
:) ..
ek_pak...@my-dejanews.com
that dravidian hindu whore!
Unknown
Shukran is definitely Arabic. Shukriya is the Farsi form of Shukran which
was adopted in North India as the word for "thank you".
Also please stop being racist against people of the Middle East. The ancient
Egyptian and Babylonian civilizations were very advanced and learned. As for
Arabs being barbarians...indeed they were before Islam civilised them. After
becoming Muslims they realised what an animal existance they had been living
as pagans.
Finally...why are you the only person on this newsgroup who is capable of
rational discussion and debate ? :)
azmat...@hotmail.com
Momin <mo...@momin.com> wrote:
>
>
> ek_pak...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> >
> > > ...Waheguru was some Dhoti-clad Faggot who taught the Sikhs their bad
hygine
> > > habits. The son of a bitch left this planet with a whole bunch of Towel
head
> > > followers who don' know how to shave or go to the barber once in a while!
> > > UUGH!!!
> > ....fully agreed.
> > Ek Pakistani
>
> Actually the truth is that the word waheguru is meant to signal the arrival
> of a towering sikh in the vicinity. This means that any paindoo lady within
the
> hearing distance will automatically drop salwar in eager anticipation of a
> reward of a Sikh lingam and procreation. Had this not been the case, you
> like the rest of your paindoo brethren would still be water drops in the
> eye of your Sikh fathers...
>
AZMAT PARSA
S Singh Sandhu
S Singh Sandhu
10033...@compuserve.com (Mo) wrote:
>sandeep <sba...@home.com> wrote:
>
>>Well my Allah revealed that everybody should be proud of their ancestors and
>culture and heritage!!<
>
They were many things , buddhist and hindu at one point...
Religion doesn't really have anything to do with race.
Nusrat Rizvi
>> > > ...Waheguru was some Dhoti-clad Faggot who taught the Sikhs their bad
>hygine habits. The son of a bitch left this planet with a whole bunch of Towel
>head followers who don' know how to shave or go to the barber once in a while!
>> > > UUGH!!!
>> > ....fully agreed.
>> > Ek Pakistani
>>
>> Actually the truth is that the word waheguru is meant to signal the arrival
>> of a towering sikh in the vicinity. This means that any paindoo lady within
>the
>> hearing distance will automatically drop salwar in eager anticipation of a
>> reward of a Sikh lingam and procreation. Had this not been the case, you
>> like the rest of your paindoo brethren would still be water drops in the
>> eye of your Sikh fathers...
>>
> Fuck you and Fuck wahaguru but definetly never again your stinky mother!
> that dravidian hindu whore!
Never again you say, ever heard the expression, ab pashtay kiya howat
jab chria chug gia kheet.
You guys have enough Sikh genes to last a thousand generations.
Nusrat Rizvi
Nusrat Rizvi
>Sandeep,
>Shukran is definitely Arabic. Shukriya is the Farsi form of Shukran which
>was adopted in North India as the word for "thank you".
>Also please stop being racist against people of the Middle East. The ancient
>Egyptian and Babylonian civilizations were very advanced and learned. As for
>Arabs being barbarians...indeed they were before Islam civilised them. After
>becoming Muslims they realised what an animal existance they had been living
>as pagans.
This is cheap propaganda from Islaimst apologists, there is no
evidence to support that Arabs before Mohammed were not civilized.
The fact that Jews Christians and Animists lived in peace and harmony
speaks volumes about Arab culture of tolerance before Islam.
Attempt to rewrite history in attempt to make Islam palatable
will not wash.
Nusrat Rizvi
Momin
ek_pak...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> In article <36A0DFD6...@momin.com>,
> Momin <mo...@momin.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > ek_pak...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > > ...Waheguru was some Dhoti-clad Faggot who taught the Sikhs their bad
> hygine
> > > > habits. The son of a bitch left this planet with a whole bunch of Towel
> head
> > > > followers who don' know how to shave or go to the barber once in a while!
> > > > UUGH!!!
> > > ....fully agreed.
> > > Ek Pakistani
> >
> > Actually the truth is that the word waheguru is meant to signal the arrival
> > of a towering sikh in the vicinity. This means that any paindoo lady within
> the
> > hearing distance will automatically drop salwar in eager anticipation of a
> > reward of a Sikh lingam and procreation. Had this not been the case, you
> > like the rest of your paindoo brethren would still be water drops in the
> > eye of your Sikh fathers...
> >
> Fuck you and Fuck wahaguru but definetly never again a paindoo!
Certainly your mom is within her rights to say this as has been historically
the case with all your paindoo ladies.....
S Singh Sandhu
ek_pak...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>In article <36A0DFD6...@momin.com>,
> Momin <mo...@momin.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> ek_pak...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > > ...Waheguru was some Dhoti-clad Faggot who taught the Sikhs their bad
>hygine
>> > > habits. The son of a bitch left this planet with a whole bunch of Towel
>head
>> > > followers who don' know how to shave or go to the barber once in a while!
>> > > UUGH!!!
>> > ....fully agreed.
>> > Ek Pakistani
>>
>> Actually the truth is that the word waheguru is meant to signal the arrival
>> of a towering sikh in the vicinity. This means that any paindoo lady within
>the
>> hearing distance will automatically drop salwar in eager anticipation of a
>> reward of a Sikh lingam and procreation. Had this not been the case, you
>> like the rest of your paindoo brethren would still be water drops in the
>> eye of your Sikh fathers...
>>
> that dravidian hindu whore!
>
>http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
Mo
Islamists are just deaf to the truth..
Kirpal Singh MDPC
not &never been against muslims.sikhs fight against opression .no matter
who the oppressor may be _hindu,muslim,sikh or british etc. If any sikh
has offended you,i would like to apologise on behalf of sikh community
and request you to forgive in the name of ALLAH progenitor of all
humanity.Sikhs call upon the same ALLAHby the name of WAHEGURU which
means amazing creator of ours. love . May waheguru(also known as ALLAH
bless you,yourfamily &friends. kps...@webtv.net
Kirpal Singh MDPC
same one god but may call upon HIM with different names. Waheguru means
AMAZING ALLAH. kps...@webtv.net
sandeep
Unknown wrote:
> Sandeep,
>
> Shukran is definitely Arabic. Shukriya is the Farsi form of Shukran which
> was adopted in North India as the word for "thank you".
OK! If you say so!! I am not scholar of Arabic and neither have time, money or
effort to become one! :)
> Also please stop being racist against people of the Middle East. The ancient
> Egyptian and Babylonian civilizations were very advanced and learned. As for
I am not being racist against "people of Middle East" Even after they have
converted more then
50% of my culture to theirs!! I am just making sure that Punjabi people know
this conspiracy and
evil designs of Arabians!! SO! that in future the rest of Punjabis do not
abandon their heritage and
I did not used any ethnic or racist slur against Arabians or any middle eastern!
I do not care if their culture, civilization is/was advance or the best in
world!! For me Punjabi is
the best!! Arabian, Australian, Chinese, European, African are all same to me!
equal to each other!!
Punjabi culture is special because it is mine and my ancestors were
Punjabis!!!!!!!
Had my ancestors been arabian then I will like Arabian culture but that is not
the case!!!!!
SO!! my only effort is to make sure that Punjabi and Punjabiat survives!!
Qalam of Baba Sheikh Farid
Shakarganj, Guru Nanak Dev, Guru Arjan Dev, Shah Hussein, Waris Shah, Bulleh
Shah, and others
shall not be replaced by Iqbal, Ghalib or others!! and in this effort to
protect my own, if you see myself being racist then it
is problem with you, not me!! :)
> Arabs being barbarians...indeed they were before Islam civilised them. After
> becoming Muslims they realised what an animal existance they had been living
> as pagans.
How did Islam civilized them?? By making sure that Arabian (middle Eastern)
practices like
Circumcision
Animal Sacrifice in the name of God
etc, etc is shoved down the throats of muslims all over the world?
What else is then Islam if not propaganda to publicize Arabian culture?
everybody is right because what we all do is done through the one and only God!!
and not "Might is right" and not "Arabian culture and langauge is right"
If God wanted everybody to be Arabian and practice circumcision, sacrifice, and
other rites and
rituals assocaited with Islam then why did even God created others??
May be God loves to watch us all fighting!! :)
> Finally...why are you the only person on this newsgroup who is capable of
> rational discussion and debate ? :)
umm..!!! I think there are many many more!! and majority of people only read the
newsgroup and don't respond or post!!
(Silent Majority)
sandeep
Welcome to this newsgroup!! We have lots of immature teenagers with
power to post on this newsgroup!!
you can just ignore them! others understand the value of religion and
culture!!
Best Regards,
Sandeep Singh Bajwa
Kirpal Singh MDPC wrote:
--
gan...@my-dejanews.com
"S Singh Sandhu" <s760...@np.edu.sg> wrote:
> Everyone was hindu at one point.
Care to give dates and region ?
There is no record of "Hindus" (and "Hindusthan") existing anywhere prior to
12th century. References to "Indica" by early Greeks is purely
a geopgraphical expression and really refered to the Punjab/Sindh
region.
In historically separate northwest, prior to 12th century
incriptions, coins, etc. only IDENTITIES like "Saka" and
"Sakasthana" appear.
amitabh...@my-dejanews.com
sba...@home.com wrote:
I must say!!! Sandeep!!! after reading dozens of your posts!!! that you've
certainly revolutionized!! the use of the exclamation mark!!!!!!!
Mo
not Hinduism ?..
Unknown
sandeep wrote in message <36A2203F...@home.com>...
gan...@my-dejanews.com
10033...@compuserve.com (Mo) wrote:
> So what practices was Buddha in BC 500 fighting against , if
> not Hinduism ?..
Brahmanism which was confined to the separate dasya caste ridden
Gangasthan. Saksthana (Indus-Ganga country) was under Saka settlemnt
and rule.
>
> In article <36a180f9.0@nsuxnews>,
> "S Singh Sandhu" <s760...@np.edu.sg> wrote:
>
> > Everyone was hindu at one point.
>
> Care to give dates and region ?
>
> There is no record of "Hindus" (and "Hindusthan") existing
> anywhere prior to
> 12th century.
>
>
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rafiqs...@my-dejanews.com
sba...@home.com wrote:
>
>
> Unknown wrote:
>
> > Allah is composed of two words Al-Lah (THE GOD).
> >
> > Allah does not reside in the Kaabah. To believe that is Kufr (disbelief).
> >
> > Allah is everywhere in his knowledge and power and his will encompasses all
> > things. Nothing happens except by his leave. It is mentioned in the Quran
> > that Allah his above his Arsh (throne). The manner of his seating on the
> > Arsh is not to be delved into and is not like a humans for "there is nothing
> > like him". Whoever believes that Allah resides in his creation or is in a
> > particular direction is a Kafir.
>
> Good!!
>
> >
> >
> > We face the Kaabah to pray simply because that is what the Messenger of
> > Allah (SAW) instructed us to do. We do not worship the black stone or the
> > Kaabah.
>
> Well!! I met Messenger of Allah (SAW) yesterday and he instructed me to tell
the
> worldthat from now on you should face towards Golden Temple Amritsar! and be
> Khalsa of Punjab!!
....dummy that was your towel headed hindu daddy in duisguise. You should have
been able to tell that was him by the smell of stale vegetables and cow dung
that was comming from him...or were you walking around with a clothes peg on
your nose that day, which is understandable. :)
Rafiq Shabaaz
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rafiqs...@my-dejanews.com
> culture and heritage!!<
> Including Sikhs of their Hindu Punjabi heritage :) ..
> Mo
hindus and sikh hindus....same thing..
Rafiq Shabaaz
rafiqs...@my-dejanews.com
rizv...@pipeline.com wrote:
> ek_pak...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> >> > > ...Waheguru was some Dhoti-clad Faggot who taught the Sikhs their bad
> >hygine habits. The son of a bitch left this planet with a whole bunch of
Towel
> >head followers who don' know how to shave or go to the barber once in a
while!
> >> > > UUGH!!!
> >> > ....fully agreed.
> >> > Ek Pakistani
> >>
> >> Actually the truth is that the word waheguru is meant to signal the arrival
> >> of a towering sikh in the vicinity. This means that any paindoo lady within
> >the
> >> hearing distance will automatically drop salwar in eager anticipation of a
> >> reward of a Sikh lingam and procreation. Had this not been the case, you
> >> like the rest of your paindoo brethren would still be water drops in the
> >> eye of your Sikh fathers...
> >>
> > Fuck you and Fuck wahaguru but definetly never again your stinky mother!
> > that dravidian hindu whore!
>
> jab chria chug gia kheet.
> You guys have enough Sikh genes to last a thousand generations.
> Nusrat Rizvi
>
Just look at your religion skhism. It is a type of hinduism thats a cheap
immitation of Islam. Keep trying, you will never be a muslim...hahahaha towel
headed hindu!
rafiqs...@my-dejanews.com
Momin <mo...@momin.com> wrote:
>
>
> ek_pak...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> > In article <36A0DFD6...@momin.com>,
> > >
> > >
> > > ek_pak...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > ...Waheguru was some Dhoti-clad Faggot who taught the Sikhs their bad
> > hygine
> > > > > habits. The son of a bitch left this planet with a whole bunch of
Towel
> > head
> > > > > followers who don' know how to shave or go to the barber once in a
while!
> > > > > UUGH!!!
> > > > ....fully agreed.
> > > > Ek Pakistani
> > >
> > > Actually the truth is that the word waheguru is meant to signal the
arrival
> > > of a towering sikh in the vicinity. This means that any paindoo lady
within
> > the
> > > hearing distance will automatically drop salwar in eager anticipation of a
> > > reward of a Sikh lingam and procreation. Had this not been the case, you
> > > like the rest of your paindoo brethren would still be water drops in the
> > > eye of your Sikh fathers...
> > >
>
> Certainly your mom is within her rights to say this as has been historically
> the case with all your paindoo ladies.....
>
Well true, Pakistani men do love to fuck the ladies of towel heads....just
ask you mom. :) Rafiq Shabaaz
rafiqs...@my-dejanews.com
> rizv...@pipeline.com (Nusrat Rizvi) wrote:
> This is cheap propaganda from Islaimst apologists, there is
> no
> evidence to support that Arabs before Mohammed were not
> civilized.
> The fact that Jews Christians and Animists lived in peace
> and harmony
> speaks volumes about Arab culture of tolerance before Islam.
>
> Attempt to rewrite history in attempt to make Islam
> palatable
> will not wash.
> Nusrat Rizvi
>
The grease out of your towel headed jungle, yep, it won't wash:)...oh let
me go catch your mom now :-) Rafiq shabaaz
Momin
rafiqs...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> ..hahahaha towel
> headed hindu!
> Rafiq Shabaaz
Your moms Ramdan prayers answered at the sight of a Sikh..eh??
Momin
rafiqs...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> hindus and sikh hindus....same thing..
>
Certainly when it comes to your moms paying customers...
Momin
rafiqs...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
nah..Pakistani men are more known to pimp for the paindoo
ladies of towel heads. Just ask your mom and sisters...
ramk...@imap3.asu.edu
Normally I respect the "don't shoot the messenger" line. But in the case
of religious messengers from the desert, don't know if that is such a
good thing ;-)(and they are gone now ;-)) But then again we have the
"followers" to be blamed any ways! Oh well!
sandeep (sba...@home.com) wrote:
: Unknown wrote:
...
: > We face the Kaabah to pray simply because that is what the Messenger of
: > Allah (SAW) instructed us to do. We do not worship the black stone or the
: > Kaabah.
: Well!! I met Messenger of Allah (SAW) yesterday and he instructed me to tell the
: worldthat from now on you should face towards Golden Temple Amritsar! and be
: Khalsa of Punjab!!
...
: > mentioned in the Quran. When the Prophet (SAW) brought the Makkans the
: > message of Islam, the message of One God, they replied by saying they follow
: > what their forefathers brought.
: So Prophet told you to follow his forefather and forget yours!! :)
: Message of God is that all humanity is equal irrespective of their religion!!
: UNDERSTAND IT!!!
: > "And if they said to them follow what Allah has revealed, they said but we
: > follow what our forefathers left for us. Even if their forefathers
: > understood not, and were not guided." [TMQ 2:170]
: Allah revealed that everybody should follow Arabian Customs!! :)
: Well my Allah revealed that everybody should be proud of their ancestors and
: culture and heritage!!
: who is correct and more humane?
surind...@my-dejanews.com
ek_pak...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> In article <36A0DFD6...@momin.com>,
> Momin <mo...@momin.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > ek_pak...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > > ...Waheguru was some Dhoti-clad Faggot who taught the Sikhs their bad
> hygine
> > > > habits. The son of a bitch left this planet with a whole bunch of Towel
> head
> > > > followers who don' know how to shave or go to the barber once in a while!
> > > > UUGH!!!
> > > ....fully agreed.
> > > Ek Pakistani
> >
> > Actually the truth is that the word waheguru is meant to signal the arrival
> > of a towering sikh in the vicinity. This means that any paindoo lady within
> the
> > hearing distance will automatically drop salwar in eager anticipation of a
> > reward of a Sikh lingam and procreation. Had this not been the case, you
> > like the rest of your paindoo brethren would still be water drops in the
> > eye of your Sikh fathers...
> >
> that dravidian hindu whore!
>
> http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
>
i am very m,uch impressed by your views. after all ganda dimag gandi soch
ek_pak...@my-dejanews.com
mommy
> > >
> > > Certainly your mom is within her rights to say this as has been
historically
> > > the case with all your paindoo ladies.....
> > >
> >
> > Well true, Pakistani men do love to fuck the ladies of towel heads...
>
> nah..Pakistani men are more known to pimp for the paindoo
>
Rest assured momin when when your dad sends your mom to my house tonight,
after taking off er clothes and making her prance naked, I will surely ask
her.
PseudoPindDaPuttar
rafiqs...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> > > Fuck you and Fuck wahaguru but definetly never again your hindu mommy
> >
> > Certainly your mom is within her rights to say this as has been historically
> > the case with all your paindoo ladies.....
> >
Well obviously,
There are many in the NorthWest frontier of Pakistan and also towards
the West of Pakistan.
Above and beyond that I am sure Allah also used to wear towel.
Well what does that make sure you son of a pig....
>
> Well true, Pakistani men do love to fuck the ladies of towel heads....just
> ask you mom. :) Rafiq Shabaaz
>
Momin
ek_pak...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> > > > > Fuck you and Fuck wahaguru but definetly never again your hindu
> mommy
> > > >
> > > > Certainly your mom is within her rights to say this as has been
> historically
> > > > the case with all your paindoo ladies.....
> > > >
> > >
> > > Well true, Pakistani men do love to fuck the ladies of towel heads...
> >
> > nah..Pakistani men are more known to pimp for the paindoo
> > ladies of towel heads. Just ask my mom and sisters...
> >
>
> Rest assured momin when when your dad sends your mom to my house tonight,
> after taking off er clothes and making her prance naked, I will surely ask
> her.
To do this I have to be a paindoo, and like you and live in Pukistan..
i...@svpal.org
> >
>
> Certainly when it comes to your moms paying customers...
Sarn't Major, Fix bayonets and Form Square! This is getting ugly.
#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#--#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#
In their wisdom, the Founding Fathers chose to limit the powers
afforded to government. Government now wishes we would forget this.
Fat chance!
ek_pak...@my-dejanews.com
i...@svpal.org wrote:
> In article <36A3F150...@momin.com>,
> Momin <mo...@momin.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > rafiqs...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > hindus and sikh hindus....same thing..
> > >
> >
> > Certainly when it comes to your moms paying customers...
Your dravidian moms paying customers are all Pakistanis...
Ek Pakistani
SHERePNJAB
i'd just like to say
ur one dick suckin faggot