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Sam Keck

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Jan 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/3/00
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Hi

Does anyone else like the art of Zdzislaw Beksinski? He has done some
powerful surrealistic paintings. There are post-nuclear holocaust
scenes, strange crucifixions, and an image of a musician playing so fast
that he seems to have dozens of fingers.

Now here is the question. How should I pronouce "Zdzislaw"?
(Flawlessly? Ludicrously? Poly-consonantly? :) )

I am quite ignorant about things Polish. Nevertheless here is my quess:

Jislav (Ji'slav)

with "j" as in American English (\d\+\zh\), "i" as in "fit", "a" as in
"father", and with the accent on the first syllable.

How did I do? Over here in the USA we tend to mangle foreign words
anyway we please, but I prefer to know roughly how words are spoken back
in their home.

Sam

Leszek Andrzej Kleczkowski

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Jan 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/3/00
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Sam Keck <ke...@dri.edu> wrote:
: Now here is the question. How should I pronouce "Zdzislaw"?
: (Flawlessly? Ludicrously? Poly-consonantly? :) )
: I am quite ignorant about things Polish. Nevertheless here is my
: quess:
: Jislav (Ji'slav)
: with "j" as in American English (\d\+\zh\), "i" as in "fit", "a" as in
: "father", and with the accent on the first syllable.

Almost perfect:-), but I would suggest you try "Sgeesuav" - this will
take care of all peculiar Polish sounds.

Leszek
---
Smart questions to stupid answers
Pisz z sensem - rob dwie spacje po kropce


Pyzol

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Jan 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/5/00
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I do. He is my favourite Polish painter right behind Jacek Malczewski (do
you know him?).

Do not try to pronounce "Zdzislaw", you just c a n n o t do this! My
doctor, who is Polish, used to be Zdzislaw but after few years in Canada has
his name exchanged to Charles. Try "Charles" then!:):):)
Katarzyna Makowska ( try: Katarina:)
"Sam Keck" <ke...@dri.edu> wrote in message news:38710E38...@dri.edu...


> Hi
>
> Does anyone else like the art of Zdzislaw Beksinski? He has done some
> powerful surrealistic paintings. There are post-nuclear holocaust
> scenes, strange crucifixions, and an image of a musician playing so fast
> that he seems to have dozens of fingers.
>

> Now here is the question. How should I pronouce "Zdzislaw"?
> (Flawlessly? Ludicrously? Poly-consonantly? :) )
>
> I am quite ignorant about things Polish. Nevertheless here is my quess:
>
> Jislav (Ji'slav)
>
> with "j" as in American English (\d\+\zh\), "i" as in "fit", "a" as in
> "father", and with the accent on the first syllable.
>

Michel Couzijn

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Jan 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/12/00
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On Mon, 03 Jan 2000 13:01:44 -0800, Sam Keck <ke...@dri.edu> wrote:

>Now here is the question. How should I pronouce "Zdzislaw"?
>(Flawlessly? Ludicrously? Poly-consonantly? :) )

Here comes an answer from a NON-Pole who tried to learn
how to pronounce this name as well. So handle my answer
with care! ;-)

I think of this name as having three syllables:
1. Z
2. dzi
3. slaw

Not that this approach is scientifically correct, but
it works anyway.

I pronounce it as follows:

1. ZH - as in the French 'genre' (NOT the English
pronunciation of 'genre'!). It is a sound with which
you can imitate bees. You should be able to maintain
this sound for a few seconds (so it cannot start with
a 'd'-sound). You should use your voice here (not
voiceless as in whispering). Enough about this seemingly
simple, but in practice difficult syllable.

2. GEE - as the English letter 'G' or 'O, gee!'. Only
don't make the 'ee' too long. This second syllable has
the word accent.

3. SWAHF - The vowel should sound as the vowel in 'heart',
so with a dark color (as opposed to the a in 'lag').

The REAL difficult thing is, of course, to combine
these three sounds:

ZH - GEE - SWAHF.

My advice is to start practicing GEE - SWAHF, and
when you can do that fluently, try including the
ZH as a starter. In a while you will be able to
overcome the difficult combination of the
first two syllables.

Have fun! And don't eat peanuts while practicing!


Michel Couzijn
Amsterdam, The Netherlands

1NTEd

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Jan 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/12/00
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It depends on what identity you want to assume:

1. Polish _ Flawlessly.
2. ? _ Ludicrously.
3. Foreign _ Poly-consonantly (harmony is impossible)<g>
and, to add one more
4. Ambivalent _ Flawlessly (spell, if asked).

Cheers, I hope it'll help.

Ed

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