Why Is "Polack" Considered a Slur?
Iamhere
"The Polish words for a Pole are Polak (masculine) and Polka
(feminine), Polacy being the plural form. The adjective "Polish"
translates to Polish as polski (masculine), polska (feminine) and
polskie (neuter). The common Polish name for Poland is Polska. The
latter Polish word is an adjectival noun substantive, most probably
derived from polska ziemia, or "Polish land".[1] The full official
name of the Polish state is Rzeczpospolita Polska which loosely
translates as "Polish Republic" (see Rzeczpospolita for details).
In light of this information, why do Poles get all cocksited when they
hear Polack? Okay, a "c" is tossed in because it looks and sounds
better in English but for heaven's sake, a Polak is a male Pole. Poles
get more ticked off at being called Polacks than Jews, Kikes; Irish,
Micks; Brits,Limeys;Italians, Wops,Dagos,Guinnies;
AfroAmericans,Niggers and so forth and so on. By the way, all except
for Polacks are most definitely PERJORATIVE and must be avoided. And
the use of the perjorative ZYD (Jew) by Poles must end in order to
stop Jewish backlash.
A possible reason for Polish anger is because Polack is often preceded
by "dumb" which I think was started by Archie Bunker in "All In the
Family." It simply caught on because we Yanks began associating
stupidity with Polish people. I hope I have shone some light on this
issue that inflames Poles and hope we've all learned a lesson from it.
What lesson? Who knows?
Iamhereski Dubrovolski
DonJose
Obviously, you don't know Polish. Your knowledge of English is limited
- to say the least. AS for your IQ....well, let's maintain some
dicretion about it.
Iamhere
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Obviously I don't understand Polish. Am I supposed to? Obviously your
English is shitty because you can't spell "discretion" so people that
live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, boychick.
Iamhere
DonJose
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I was writing fast and I have problems with my left hand - related to
carpal tunnel. About your statement: Making comments about anything
without understanding it strikes me as demagoguery. And the suggestion
that Poles, or, for this matter, any people should accpet being
insulted is a trait of a fascist personality.
Iamhere
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First off, how much do you have to pay to traverse the carpal tunnel?
Out here, for example,across the Golden Gate Bridge, it costs $5 in
cash and $4 for FasTrak to go from San Francisco to Marin county and
vice versa.
Next, your retort smacks of demimoore itself because how sure are you
that I know not what I write? I threw a bit of Jesus in there to make
you happy. Unfortunately you still do not appreciate my wit and
wisdom. In fact I'm full of wit.
My post had nothing to do with insulting anyone because I proved that
"Polack" is NOT a derogatory term. Nothing like, for example, ZYD
which Poles toss around like there's no tomorrow. And by chance, even
if Polack was derogatory, you are saying that I, as a Zionist, have no
right replying in the same caustic vein my enemies use? Who the hell
gave you such dictatorial authority? You use the name Don Jose. That's
Spanish. Did you know that the Spanish word for a male Pole is a
"Polaco?" What the hell difference is there between Polaco and Polack
save for the "o?"
So instead of calling me a fascist for insulting Poles, you should
reconsider based on all the info I supply. When a Pole calls
disparagingly a Jew, ZYD, is that Pole a fascist? I say no. Just
ignorant proving there are a lot of ignoramuses on this forum.
I am going to Europe this summer and because of these Polish anti-
Semites, I am bypassing Poland altogether by having chosen instead a
few days in Prague. I'm not dropping one dollar into the coffers of
the Warsaw bigots.
Iamhere
DonJose
I will make it simple. "Pollack" is a slur in English. "Zyd" is not a
slur in Polish. You can check dictionaries.
As to your trip to Prague. Well. I offer Prague my condolences.
Iamhere
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Please, it's not Pollack. Pollack is a Jewish name. It' Polack. Now
let's suppose ZYD is not a slur against Jews. Did I not use it as just
one example? For argument's sake, let's say I'm wrong. I'm wrong in
that one instance. How about the other million acts, libel and
defamation for which the Poles are so well known for perpetrating
against Jews? What say, Jose?
Just go to GOOGLE, type in "Polish anti-Semitism" and read for 10
years.
Iamhere
DonJose
You find lots of stereotyps, racism, and bigotry on google, of
anywhere else. For example, read your own writings.
Lancelot Potresselli
years. You dispel the truth of what he wrote by mentioning everything either
tangential or unrelated to Iamhere's posts. That's because you lack his
brainpower--it's so obvious.
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DonJose
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> The man's right. Type in POLISH ANTI SEMITISM on Google and read for 10
> years. You dispel the truth of what he wrote by mentioning everything either
> tangential or unrelated to Iamhere's posts. That's because you lack his
> brainpower--it's so obvious.
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Type space aliens, or Elvis is alive on Google and see what you find.
McIntosh
McIntosh
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> let's suppose ZYD is not a slur against Jews. Did I not use it as just
> one example? For argument's sake, let's say I'm wrong. I'm wrong in
> that one instance. How about the other million acts, libel and
> defamation for which the Poles are so well known for perpetrating
> against Jews? What say, Jose?
> Just go to GOOGLE, type in "Polish anti-Semitism" and read for 10
> years.
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> Iamhere
The terms Polonophobia, anti-Polonism, antipolonism, anti-Polish sentiments
refer to a broad spectrum of hostile attitudes toward Poles. They are used
in historical or political contexts that take into account national tensions
between Poles and other nations which lived or live in their close
proximity.
[...]
Description
"Whether figures, gasoline, bombs or bread, we bring Poland death." Painted
on German Ju-52 transport-plane fuselage during the Invasion of Poland of
1939.Hostility towards Poles and Polish culture may be observed in the
following main forms:
organized persecution of Poles as an ethnic or cultural group, often based
on the belief that Polish culture or interests are a threat to one's own
national aspirations;
racist anti-Polonism, a variety of xenophobia;
cultural anti-Polonism: a prejudice against Poles and Polish-speaking
persons;
belittling the assistance given by some Polish people to Jews during World
War II
One of the historic examples of Polonophobia was polakozerstwo (in English -
devouring of Poles) - a term used in 19th century Poland to describe the
anti-Polish politics of Otto von Bismarck [6]
Historic actions based on anti-Polonism ranged from felonious acts the goal
of which was to suppress the Polish state to physical extermination of the
Polish nation. The groups which are today most frequently accused of being
hostile to Poles include German and Russian politicians or political
parties, as well as certain Jewish groups (sometimes as part of an
anti-Semitic conspiracy theory).[7][8]
During World War II when parts of Polish society were the object of German
genocidal policies, German anti-polonism led to a campaign of mass
extermination.[9] [10]
Polish-Americans were also discriminated against in the United States,
according to '"No Irish Need Apply": A Myth of Victimization' by Richard
Jensen, Retired Professor of History, University of Illinois, Chicago. "The
data show the Irish were about in the same position as German immigrants,
and much less liable to being boxed into a job niche than blacks, Italians,
Poles or Jews."
Continued mass-media references to World War II-era "Polish death camps" and
"Polish concentration camps" are often cited as examples of anti-Polonism
([11], [12], [13], [14]), although they usually stem from thoughtless
English language usage rather than from malicious intentions. These terms in
fact refer to German concentration camps set up and run by Germans, on
occupied Polish territory, whose millions of victims included Poles. Those
who object to this usage argue that these terms tend to shift responsibility
for these camps onto the Poles, rather than simply describe their location
in a neutral way. The American Jewish Committee stated in its January 30
2005 press release: "This is not a mere semantic matter. Historical
integrity and accuracy hang in the balance.... Any misrepresentation of
Poland's role in the Second World War, whether intentional or accidental,
would be most regrettable and therefore should not be left unchallenged."
[15]
After an April 30, 2004 CTV News news report referred to "the Polish camp in
Treblinka", the Polish embassy lodged a complaint with CTV. Robert Hurst of
CTV, however, contended that the expression, "Polish death camps," is common
usage in news organizations, including those in the United States, and is
not misleading, and declined to issue a correction.[16] The Polish
Ambassador to Ottawa then complained to the National Specialty Services
Panel of the Canadian Broadcast Standards Council, which ruled against CTV.
It did not accept Hurst's arguments, stating that ""Polish" - similarly to
such adjectives as "English", "French" and "German" - had connotations that
clearly extended beyond geographic context. Its use with reference to Nazi
extermination camps was misleading and improper". CTV broadcast the decision
during prime time. [17]. The Polish Ministry of Foreign affairs has stated:
"That example of a successful campaign against the distortion of historic
truth by the media - and in defense of the good name of Poland - will
hopefully reduce the number of similar incidents in the future".
Also cited as examples of anti-Polonism are other phrases relating to Poland
during World War II, such as "Nazi Poland." [18], or "Polish Nazis" [19] by
Norwegian State Broadcasting Corporation, NRK [20]. Persistent German
canards dating back to World War II survive and are meant to illustrate
Poles as unintelligent or incompetent. Such stories include the false
allegations that Polish cavalry "bravely but futilely" charged German tanks,
and that the Polish Air Force was wiped out on the ground on the opening day
of the war. Neither tale is true, as is discussed at Myths of the Polish
September Campaign.
Other forms of hostility toward Poles popular during the Nazi era have
included disparaging "Polish jokes", portraying them as inferior, stupid and
dirty [21]. According to the same source, however, (The Mirth of Nations by
Davies), these Polish jokes did not originate in Nazi Germany, but rather as
an outgrowth of regional jokes told about neighboring populations, being
rooted in 19th century class differences rather than specifically
anti-Polish sentiment (p 176). Further, American versions of the Polish
jokes are an unrelated "purely American phenomenon" that do not express the
"historical Old World hatreds of the Germans for the Poles" (p. 177).
However, their continued use in German society [22] has stirred protest from
the Polish government [23]. Sociologists believe these jokes are used by
Germans as a way to whitewash their view of history Germany, and
particularly the terror regime established by German state in Poland, by
presenting Poles as nations of thieves and criminals, thus giving German
society a justification in the form of "If all Poles are stealing, our
grandparents didn't do anything wrong, when they applied order to them"[24].
Anti-Polonism (analogously to other ethnic phobias) has been used as a tool
by demagogues inside and outside Polish circles, seeking their own personal
or their own ethnic group's aggrandizement at the expense of a disparaged,
demonized or dehumanized people, either Poles themselves or other groups
acussed of anti-Polonism.
Persecution of ethnic Poles (to 1918)
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Iamhere
> "Iamhere" <dotcom...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > Please, it's not Pollack. Pollack is a Jewish name. It' Polack. Now
> > let's suppose ZYD is not a slur against Jews. Did I not use it as just
> > one example? For argument's sake, let's say I'm wrong. I'm wrong in
> > that one instance. How about the other million acts, libel and
> > defamation for which the Poles are so well known for perpetrating
> > against Jews? What say, Jose?
> > Just go to GOOGLE, type in "Polish anti-Semitism" and read for 10
> > years.
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> >Iamhere
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> The terms Polonophobia, anti-Polonism, antipolonism, anti-Polish sentiments
> refer to a broad spectrum of hostile attitudes toward Poles. They are used
> in historical or political contexts that take into account national tensions
> between Poles and other nations which lived or live in their close
> proximity.
> [...]
> Description
> "Whether figures, gasoline, bombs or bread, we bring Poland death." Painted
> on German Ju-52 transport-plane fuselage during the Invasion of Poland of
> 1939.Hostility towards Poles and Polish culture may be observed in the
> following main forms:
Hold it there fellow. In now way did I or ever would support the
goddamned Luftwaffe attacks on Poland or on any other European nation.
In no way do I support any physical attack on Poland now as well as on
the Poles themselves. If any Polish soldier was killed in Iraq, I send
my condolences to his family. You've taken, for propaganda purposes,
my criticism of Poland way out of context. You put words in my mouth.
Never associate me with anything associated with Hitler as deserving,
proper and justified. I understand full well the hell wrought upon the
Polish nation by those Nazi bastards and I know full well about the
thousands of Catholic Poles killed in those extermination camps. My
grievance is with POLISH ATTITUDES which reflect distorted teachings
by parents and priests. Despite the persecution by Catholic Poles as
well as other Catholic nations against the Jews for more than a
millennium. I strongly OPPOSE persecutional retaliation. That's
because I am a Jew and was not brought up in that mode of thinking. I
come from good, decent and honest people who demanded I lived by Old
Testament precepts to which I've adhered my whole life. I love and
respect my fellow man, including Polacks.
Iamhere
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Just wanted to correct the subject that was altered by a crazed Dotski.
Labtec
Uzytkownik "Iamhere" <dotc...@yahoo.com> napisal w wiadomosci
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> Just wanted to correct the subject that was altered by a crazed Dotski.
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> Just wanted to correct the subject that was altered by a crazed Jew.
Iamhere
> Uzytkownik "Iamhere" <dotcom...@yahoo.com> napisal w wiadomoscinews:1182438433....@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
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> > Just wanted to correct the subject that was altered by a nutty Dotski.
A crazy Dotski or two like to change subjects for the sake of spite.
This is to assure all that the ORIGINAL subject read,"Why Is Polack
Considered a Slur By Poles? I ought to know what the subject read
because I created it.
And so if the nutty Polkadotskis have no answer, they might do
something original than to change the wording of subjects. Thank you.
Iamhere
007
>> Uzytkownik "Iamhere" <dotcom...@yahoo.com> napisal w wiadomosci
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Iamhere
> "Iamhere" <dotcom...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:1182447580.4...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> > On Jun 21, 11:57 am, "Labtec" <lab...@individual.com> wrote:
> >> Uzytkownik "Iamhere" <dotcom...@yahoo.com> napisal w wiadomosci
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> So, at last, I can see you use some Polish then...-;))
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> >> Uzytkownik "Iamhere" <dotcom...@yahoo.com> napisal w wiadomosci
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> You got it wrong, Lab tech got it ritght...-;)
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> " The correct subject was altered by a nutty Jew."
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> like to have this subjects for the sake of his anti-Polish
> campaign propagated on this Polish NG. His hate and chauvinism
> is limitless. This is to assure that the subject reads correctly,
> "Why Is Jew Considered a Slur By Jews ?
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A crazed Polkadotski is on the loose again, changing subject titles.
This is very poor showmanship on the part of Poles and whoever is
responsible should have his kielbasy taken away.
Iamhere
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This is very poor showmanship on the part of Jews
Iamhere
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> > On Jun 21, 3:35 pm, "007" <0...@world.net> wrote:
> >> "Iamhere" <dotcom...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:1182447580.4...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> >> > On Jun 21, 11:57 am, "Labtec" <lab...@individual.com> wrote:
> >> >> Uzytkownik "Iamhere" <dotcom...@yahoo.com> napisal w wiadomosci
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> >> So, at last, I can see you use some Polish then...-;))
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> >> >> Uzytkownik "Iamhere" <dotcom...@yahoo.com> napisal w wiadomosci
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> >> You got it wrong, Lab tech got it ritght...-;)
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> >> " The correct subject was altered by a nutty Jew."
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> >> A crazy anti-Polish Jew, "Iamhere" <dotcom...@yahoo.com>
> >> like to have this subjects for the sake of his anti-Polish
> >> campaign propagated on this Polish NG. His hate and chauvinism
> >> is limitless. This is to assure that the subject reads correctly,
> >> "Why Is Jew Considered a Slur By Jews ?
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> > A crazed Polkadotski is on the loose again, changing subject titles.
> > This is very poor showmanship on the part of Poles and whoever is
> > responsible should have his kielbasy taken away.
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> > Iamhere
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> is on the loose again, spreading hate.
> This is very poor showmanship on the part of Jews
> and whoever is responsible should have his matzos
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Originality and quick wittedness is not part and parcel of being
Polish. However plagiarizing the originality and quick wittedness of
a Jewish geniuse like I is most certainly part and parcel of being
Polish.
Iamhere
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I just adjusted the ORIGINAL subject I myself created instead of the
mess re-created by the Polkadotskis.
Iamhere
-;)
" This is very poor showmanship on the part of Jews
-;)
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> I just adjusted the ORIGINAL subject I myself created instead of the
> mess re-created by the Polkadotskis.
> Iamhere
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