Toilet paper with Quran verses printed?
Trevor Zion Bauknight
Moshkevich) wrote:
> As a sign of solidarity with Israel, I would like to purchase toilet
> paper with the words from Quran printed on it, and wipe my ass with
> that paper on a daily basis. Any suggestions where I can buy such
> toilet paper are welcome.
Hell.
Trev
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THE SPREAD OF A WORLD CREED
The Times (London) - Tuesday, 9th November 1993 -Home-news Page
Lucy Berrington finds the Muslim Faith is winning Western admirers
despite hostile media coverage
Unprecedented numbers of British people, nearly all of them women, are
converting to Islam at a time of deep divisions within the Anglican and
Catholic churches.
The rate of conversions has prompted predictions that Islam will
rapidly become an important religious force in this country. "Within
the next 20 years the number of British converts will equal or overtake
the immigrant Muslim community that brought the faith here", says Rose
Kendrick, a religious education teacher at a Hull comprehensive and the
author of a textbook guide to the Koran. She says: "Islam is as much a
world faith as is Roman Catholicism. No one nationality claims it as
its own". Islam is also spreading fast on the continent and in
America.
The surge in conversions to Islam has taken place despite the negative
image of the faith in the Western press. Indeed, the pace of
conversions has accelerated since publicity over the Salman Rushdie
affair, the Gulf War and the plight of the Muslims in Bosnia. It is
even more ironic that most British converts should be women, given the
widespread view in the west that Islam treats women poorly. In the
United States, women converts outnumber men by four to one, and in
Britain make up the bulk of the estimated 10, 000 to 20, 000 converts,
forming part of a Muslim community of 1 to 1.5 million. Many of
Britain's "New Muslims" are from middle-class backgrounds. They include
Matthew Wilkinson, a former head boy of Eton who went on to Cambridge,
and a son and daughter of Lord Justice Scott, the judge heading the
arms-to-Iraq enquiry.
A small-scale survey by the Islamic Foundation in Leicester suggests
that most converts are aged 30 to 50. Younger Muslims point to many
conversions among students and highlight the intellectual thrust of
Islam. "Muhammad" said, "The light of Islam will rise in the West" and
I think that is what is happening in our day" says Aliya Haeri, an
American-born psychologist who converted 15 years ago. She is a
consultant to the Zahra Trust, a charity publishing spiritual
literature and is one of Britain's prominent Islamic speakers. She
adds: "Western converts are coming to Islam with fresh eyes, without
all the habits of the East, avoiding much of what is culturally wrong.
The purest tradition is finding itself strongest in the West."
Some say the conversions are prompted by the rise of comparative
religious education. The British media, offering what Muslims describe
as a relentless bad press on all things Islamic, is also said to have
helped. Westerners despairing of their own society - rising in crime,
family breakdown, drugs and alcoholism - have come to admire the
discipline and security of Islam. Many converts are former Christians
disillusioned by the uncertainty of the church and unhappy with the
concept of the Trinity and deification of Jesus.
Quest of the Convert - Why Change?
Other converts describe a search for a religious identity. Many had
previously been practising Christians but found intellectual
satisfaction in Islam. "I was a theology student and it was the
academic argument that led to my conversion." Rose Kendrick, a
religious education teacher and author, said she objected to the
concept of the original sin: "Under Islam, the sins of the fathers
aren't visited on the sons. The idea that God is not always forgiving
is blasphemous to Muslims.
Maimuna, 39, was raised as a High Anglican and confirmed at 15 at the
peak of her religious devotion. "I was entranced by the ritual of the
High Church and thought about taking the veil." Her crisis came when a
prayer was not answered. She slammed the door on visiting vicars but
travelled to convents for discussions with nuns. "My belief came back
stronger, but not for the Church, the institution or the dogma." She
researched every Christian denomination, plus Judaism, Buddhism and
Krishna Consciousness, before turning to Islam.
Many converts from Christianity reject the ecclesiastical hierarchy
emphasising Muslims' direct relationship with God. They sense a lack of
leadership in the Church of England and are suspicious of its apparent
flexibility. "Muslims don't keep shifting their goal-posts," says Huda
Khattab, 28, author of The Muslim Woman's Handbook, published this year
by Ta-Ha. She converted ten years ago while studying Arabic at
university. "Christianity changes, like the way some have said pre-
marital sex is okay if its with the person you're going to marry. It
seems so wishy-washy. Islam was constant about sex, about praying five
times a day. The prayer makes you conscious of God all the time. You're
continually touching base.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
dan
"David Moshkevich" <d...@users.nyu.edu> wrote in message
news:3745624AD...@panix.com...
> As a sign of solidarity with Israel, I would like to purchase toilet
> paper with the words from Quran printed on it, and wipe my ass with
> that paper on a daily basis. Any suggestions where I can buy such
> toilet paper are welcome.
Well, unfortunately the coca cola bottle is not appropriate.
Norma Blankenfeld
How horrible to say such things. To think things is something, but to write
them in front of G-d and the world is truly ugly. Your actions here are
very, very sad. I hope you will reconsider all of this. Norma
David Moshkevich wrote in message <3745624AD...@panix.com>...
nu-monet
>
> As a sign of solidarity with Israel, I would like to purchase toilet
> paper with the words from Quran printed on it, and wipe my ass with
> that paper on a daily basis. Any suggestions where I can buy such
> toilet paper are welcome.
Ah, but will you wipe with your left hand or your right?
Abdelkarim Benoît Evans
> As a sign of solidarity with Israel, I would like to purchase toilet
> paper with the words from Quran printed on it, and wipe my ass with
> that paper on a daily basis. Any suggestions where I can buy such
> toilet paper are welcome.
>
If you have such contempt for the words of the Qur'an, I am led to
believe that you do not care very much for the words of the Torah
either. Do you think what you are suggesting is in accordance with the
command of Ha-Shem to "love the stranger in your midst"?
Perhaps an additional question should be added to the Passover rite:
Why does the Torah teach: "When a stranger lives-as-a-stranger with you
in your land, you shall not oppress him. The stranger who
lives-as-a-stranger [hager hagar] with you shall be as one of your
citizens; you shall love her as yourself."
"Because Hagar Mamitzria [Hagar the Egyptian] was a stranger in your
midst, and "because you were strangers in the Land of Egypt."
If you are ever able to defile the words of the Qur'an in the way you
suggest, perhaps you should start with the following verses (but be sure
to read and ponder them carefully first):
"In a previous age We (Adonai Elohim, Allah) bestowed our favours on
Moses and Aaron, and we delivered them and their people from a Great
Calamity. We helped them to overcome. We gave them the Book that makes
things clear (the Torah), and we guided them in the straight way. We
left this blessing for them among all the generations to come: Peace
and salutation to Moses and Aaron." (Qur'an 37:114-120)
Rather than defiling the Qur'an, perhaps your time would be better spent
studying the Torah and learning a little bit about modern history too.
The current struggle in the Middle East is not a religious war between
Muslims and Jews. It is essentially a political struggle between the
modern State of Israel and those who live in the occupied territories
that Israel seized contrary to international law and the resolutions of
the United Nations.
Yes, Israel is a homeland for the Jews, but it is NOT, as it likes to
call itself, the Jewish State. The ruling parties and governments in
Israel have always been essentially secular although they like to use
religious grounds to justify their actions. To call modern Israel a
"Jewish State" is about as misleading and incorrect as calling Iraq,
Sudan or Egypt "Muslim States".
When God brought the Israelites into the Promised Land, he gave them
tenancy but not ownership. Indeed in the Torah, God says that the Land
is his. Perhaps everyone, Palestinians and Israelis alike should be
asking what sort of settlement might be pleasing to the God of Abraham,
who created them both.
--
Peace to all who seek God's face.
Abdelkarim Benoit Evans
ICEKNIFE
> paper with the words from Quran printed on it, and wipe my ass with
> that paper on a daily basis. Any suggestions where I can buy such
> toilet paper are welcome.
You should not make fun of other people and their irrational
superstitious metaprogramming sources, because you will upset them and
hurt their feelings and they will murder you. Even people who don't
know anything about it will get upset because you did not respect the
magic thinking of your fellow primates, and they will want you dead
before you get around to bashing *their* peculiar wackypants
irrationality. So you behave and ook and scritch and mind your
manners, and grunt with the herd, or your sanity will mark you as a
FREAK, to be torn apart and discarded as inedible. One time a bad man
made a joke about my Jesus so I shot his children in their tiny
smiling faces and made him watch then burned him alive, and THAT'll
teach him not to tease about my Jesus! HA! HA HA! HA HA HA! HA! HA HA!
You been warned.
GOD told me to tell you.
Joe Cosby
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>
> How horrible to say such things. To think things is something, but
to write
> them in front of G-d and the world is truly ugly. Your actions here
are
> very, very sad. I hope you will reconsider all of this. Norma
>
You are -so- right.
In this cynical day and age, it is a beautiful thing indeed that
Muslims can cling to a set of wholesome and affirmative beliefs which
we, in the narrow-minded arrogance of our western world, would find
laughable in a child over the age of seven.
Not only cling to, but can accept with such single-minded passion that
they are willing to spend their lives engaged in endless bloodshed and
praying for the ethnocentric apocalyptic bloodbath which this Noble
collection of fairy tales and hallucinations promises them.
Shame to you, oh shame, Mr. Moshkevich, that you would make such a
rude suggestion about this most Holy collection of camel-driver's
campfire stories!
Shame shame.
:^ş to you.
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> David Moshkevich wrote in message <3745624AD...@panix.com>...
FluxWildly
<3745624AD...@panix.com>:
>As a sign of solidarity with Israel, I would like to purchase toilet
>paper with the words from Quran printed on it, and wipe my ass with
>that paper on a daily basis. Any suggestions where I can buy such
>toilet paper are welcome.
Help this guy out here. He definitely needs the TP quickly in order to wipe
his mouth, considering the amount of crap that comes spewing forth from it.
--
FluxWildly
"All religions promise a reward...for excellences of the will or
heart, but none for excellences of the head or understanding."
[Arthur Schopenhauer, "The World as Will and Idea"]
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David Moshkevich <d...@users.nyu.edu> wrote in message
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Michael
Moshkevich) wrote:
>As a sign of solidarity with Israel, I would like to purchase toilet
>paper with the words from Quran printed on it, and wipe my ass with
>that paper on a daily basis. Any suggestions where I can buy such
>toilet paper are welcome.
As a Jew, I would like to personally recommend that you take your head
out of your ass instead. You are an asshole to blanket USENET with
such idiocy. And I imagine NYU has a policy against hate speech, so
consider yourself warned.
To reply by email, please eliminate "NOSPAM" from my address. Personal messages only!
Sabr
waSalaams,
Saabirah
"Abdelkarim Benoît Evans" <kev...@videotron.ca> wrote in message
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> In article <3745624AD...@panix.com>, d...@users.nyu.edu
(David
> Moshkevich) wrote:
>
> > As a sign of solidarity with Israel, I would like to purchase
toilet
> > paper with the words from Quran printed on it, and wipe my
ass with
> > that paper on a daily basis. Any suggestions where I can buy
such
> > toilet paper are welcome.
> >
>
Trevor Zion Bauknight
lo...@victor.com (Lone Victor) wrote:
> >> As a sign of solidarity with Israel, I would like to purchase toilet
> >> paper with the words from Quran printed on it, and wipe my ass with
> >> that paper on a daily basis. Any suggestions where I can buy such
> >> toilet paper are welcome.
> >
> >Hell.
> >
> Trev, did you see the LIST this piece of shit is posted to? It's the
> funniest thing I've read all night!
Jefferson Glapski
news:8sdg84$s0n$1...@Urvile.MSUS.EDU...
>
> How horrible to say such things. To think things is something, but to
write
> them in front of G-d and the world is truly ugly. Your actions here
are
> very, very sad. I hope you will reconsider all of this. Norma
You misplet GOD. GODDAMBIT, can't you spel GOD? GOD would be mispleased
by you'r actions of mispleting GOD. GOD, I hope you lern from you'r
mistakes.
GOD BLESS!
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Sabr
"Jefferson Glapski" <jglaps...@PENNSTATEhome.com> wrote in
message news:u0xG5.14330$N%1.68...@news3.rdc1.on.home.com...
> "Norma Blankenfeld" <nblank...@vax2.winona.msus.edu> wrote
in message
> news:8sdg84$s0n$1...@Urvile.MSUS.EDU...
> >
> > How horrible to say such things. To think things is
something, but to
> write
> > them in front of G-d and the world is truly ugly. Your
actions here
> are
> > very, very sad. I hope you will reconsider all of this.
Norma
>
> You misplet GOD. GODDAMBIT, can't you spel GOD? GOD would be
mispleased
> by you'r actions of mispleting GOD. GOD, I hope you lern from
you'r
> mistakes.
>
> GOD BLESS!
Learn to respect the beliefs of others and respect the fact that
Jewish posters do not write the word "G-d". Have some human
decency man.
I am Muslim.... My Holy Book is talked about being desecrated
here.... but yet.... I will not show disrespect for the beliefs
of a Jew. Learn some fear of your Lord and respect for His
own.... Muslims and Jews.... children of Abraham (pbuh).
Saabirah
Al Haj Sheik Yerbouty
rampaging and rabid palaswineians.
"Abdelkarim Benoīt Evans" <kev...@videotron.ca> wrote in message
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> In article <3745624AD...@panix.com>, d...@users.nyu.edu (David
>
> > As a sign of solidarity with Israel, I would like to purchase toilet
> > paper with the words from Quran printed on it, and wipe my ass with
> > that paper on a daily basis. Any suggestions where I can buy such
> > toilet paper are welcome.
> >
>
Joe Cosby
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Come, Come, Come again - whoever you may be,
Come again, even though You may be a pagan or a fire worshipper.
Our centre is not one of despair.
Come again, even if you may have violated your
Vows a hundred times
Come again.
- Rumi
Zen master: "Who binds you?"
The seeker of liberty: "No one binds me."
Zen master: "Then why seek liberation?"
- zen mondo
An autumn night -
don't think your life
didn't matter.
- Basho
http://joecosby.home.mindspring.com/allthis/huineng.jpg
It's not your holy book.
Sabr
"Joe Cosby" <joec...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> Come again, even though You may be a pagan or a
> fire worshipper.
> Our centre is not one of despair.
> Come again, even if you may have violated your
> Vows a hundred times
> Come again.
>
> - Rumi
Ahhhhhh.... Rumi. Forever consummed in the fire of the Beloved.
"Strive to become the true human being
One who knows love, one who knows pain
Be full be humble be utterly silent
Be the bowl of wine passed from hand to hand."
Sheikh Nur al-Herrahi... inspired by Abdullah Ansari.
>
> Zen master: "Who binds you?"
> The seeker of liberty: "No one binds me."
> Zen master: "Then why seek liberation?"
>
> - zen mondo
>
> An autumn night -
> don't think your life
> didn't matter.
>
> - Basho
>
>
> http://joecosby.home.mindspring.com/allthis/huineng.jpg
>
>
> It's not your holy book.
Thank you for the warning.... But I must say that to see
*anyone's* holy book.... or even the book of any moral code or
ideology being desecrated is to see real.... real destruction.
It is the destruction of the life force of the human being. Our
understanding of the Transcendant One (swt) may vary and such is
His Will. "I could have created you all one people and nation...
but I have Created you many different peoples and nations so that
you might come to know one another." HQ
What we need to recall is that we are accountable for our deeds
and we shall answer for the suffering that we have inflicted....
spiritually, mentally or physically.
Saabirah
>
> --
> Joe Cosby
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Why should he, or anyone else for that matter, fear Joe Paterno?
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March 1, 2000
Norma Blankenfeld
People can be as low as they wish, but when saying such ugly things and
suggest using any holy scripture in any way, shape, and form as suggested in
this thread is degrading and disgusting to everyone. This is not even
remotely funny. Norma
Joe Cosby wrote in message <8se4im$ukl$1...@slb0.atl.mindspring.net>...
>Norma Blankenfeld <nblank...@vax2.winona.msus.edu> wrote in message
>news:8sdg84$s0n$1...@Urvile.MSUS.EDU...
>http://joecosby.home.mindspring.com
>> David Moshkevich wrote in message <3745624AD...@panix.com>...
Norma Blankenfeld
OK ignorant one---it is G-d or god. Take your pick. Or can't you make
choices? Norma
Jefferson Glapski wrote in message ...
Norma Blankenfeld
Rumi, how did you know that, to me, he represents all that is beautiful in
life? And I try very hard to incorporate Zen into my soul? Go figure.
Norma
Joe Cosby wrote in message <8se94t$6ju$1...@slb7.atl.mindspring.net>...
>Sabr <saab...@home.net> wrote in message
>>
>- Rumi
>
Al Haj Sheik Yerbouty
Jefferson Glapski
> message news:u0xG5.14330$N%1.68...@news3.rdc1.on.home.com...
> > "Norma Blankenfeld" <nblank...@vax2.winona.msus.edu> wrote
> in message
> > news:8sdg84$s0n$1...@Urvile.MSUS.EDU...
> > >
> > > How horrible to say such things. To think things is
> something, but to
> > write
> > > them in front of G-d and the world is truly ugly. Your
> actions here
> > are
> > > very, very sad. I hope you will reconsider all of this.
> Norma
> >
> > You misplet GOD. GODDAMBIT, can't you spel GOD? GOD would be
> mispleased
> > by you'r actions of mispleting GOD. GOD, I hope you lern from
> you'r
> > mistakes.
> >
> > GOD BLESS!
>
> Learn to respect the beliefs of others and respect the fact that
> Jewish posters do not write the word "G-d". Have some human
> decency man.
I am an atheist and I believe in communication. I am deeply offended by
improper communication. The mispleting of GOD offended me, and I
consider it's mispleting indecent. That you mock these beliefs and try
to get me to censor myself is even more offensive.
Funny though. I've dated a Jew and she never was that offended by this.
> I am Muslim.... My Holy Book is talked about being desecrated
> here.... but yet.... I will not show disrespect for the beliefs
> of a Jew. Learn some fear of your Lord and respect for His
> own.... Muslims and Jews.... children of Abraham (pbuh).
Why should I fear GOD? It's the religious zealots and fundamentalists
that I should fear.
You won't show disrespect for the beliefs of a Jew? Who should have
Jerusalem as their capital then? Anything but Israel would offended some
of the Jews I know, so be careful!
I am also offended by your email address, which offends my respect for
property rights. SABR is owned by http://www.sabr.org . You should be
ashamed of you'r theft.
Jefferson Glapski
>
> "Joe Cosby" <joec...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:8se94t$6ju$1...@slb7.atl.mindspring.net...
So Lloyd Carr will be reincarnated as an insect somewhere near Columbus
for all the punishment he has wrought?
Jefferson Glapski
> I have lost track of who posted what here anymore---but whomever
posted the
> Rumi, how did you know that, to me, he represents all that is
beautiful in
> life? And I try very hard to incorporate Zen into my soul? Go
figure.
> Norma
This is dumn. If you are trying to incorporate Zen into you'r soul, you
are obviously desierous of such a thing, which by itself strikes against
the very center of Zen beliefs. You hippocrate!
Jefferson Glapski
> OK ignorant one---it is G-d or god. Take your pick. Or can't you
make
> choices? Norma
IGNRERT?!? HOW DARE YOU! YOU ARE OFFENSIVE TO US THAT USE REGIONAL
DIALEX SUCH AS GAWD OR GOD.
Norma Blankenfeld
your spellchecker--you passionate misspelled words offend everyone. Be a
putz if you but do it on your own. Norma
Jefferson Glapski wrote in message
<6DGG5.17273$N%1.76...@news3.rdc1.on.home.com>...
>"Norma Blankenfeld" <nblank...@vax2.winona.msus.edu> wrote in message
>news:8sf0i5$8h1$1...@Urvile.MSUS.EDU...
>> I have lost track of who posted what here anymore---but whomever
>posted the
>> Rumi, how did you know that, to me, he represents all that is
>beautiful in
>> life? And I try very hard to incorporate Zen into my soul? Go
>figure.
>> Norma
>
>This is dumn. If you are trying to incorporate Zen into you'r soul, you
>are obviously desierous of such a thing, which by itself strikes against
>the very center of Zen beliefs. You hippocrate!
>
Absent, Emperor of Mars (AKA RevZero)
what I want to know is...
HOW WILL HE CLEAN UP THE POOP WITH HIS HEAD IN THE WAY??????
nu-monet <not...@succeeds.com> wrote in message
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> David Moshkevich wrote:
> >
> > As a sign of solidarity with Israel, I would like to purchase
toilet
> > paper with the words from Quran printed on it, and wipe my
ass with
> > that paper on a daily basis. Any suggestions where I can buy
such
> > toilet paper are welcome.
>
Jefferson Glapski
> It takes one to know one is something my children used to say. Please
use
> your spellchecker--you passionate misspelled words offend everyone.
Be a
> putz if you but do it on your own. Norma
1. I see you'r children were taught well in the art of rhetoric.
2. You misplet spelcheker.
3. I but be a putz, and I am doing it on my own.
Jefferson Glapski
news:24fmus8cedehmurbp...@4ax.com...
> "Norma Blankenfeld" <nblank...@vax2.winona.msus.edu> wrote:
> >
> >People can be as low as they wish, but when saying such ugly things
and
> >suggest using any holy scripture in any way, shape, and form as
suggested in
> >this thread is degrading and disgusting to everyone. This is not
even
> >remotely funny. Norma
>
I found it quite humorous, even without a remote.
Jefferson Glapski
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> Why then, do Muslims destroy Jewish and Christian holy places?
Dude, if they already have holes in them, they are pretty much destroyed
already.
Rev. Jihad Frenzy
lo...@victor.com (Lone Victor) wrote:
> Wups! Thread over!
The referees say no. There was no direct comparison to that
Chaplinsque-mustachioed Austrian, nor to the political party he headed.
Play will continue.
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is doing it" was a really stupid reason to do something, but now it's the
standard reason for picking a particular software package?" -- Barry Gehm
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Sabr
"Jefferson Glapski" <jglaps...@PENNSTATEhome.com> wrote in
> > I have lost track of who posted what here anymore---
> > but whomever posted the Rumi, how did you know that,
> > to me, he represents all that is beautiful in life? And I
try
> > very hard to incorporate Zen into my soul? Go figure.
> > Norma
>
You do understand Norma that Rumi was Muslim and Sufi......
right?
Saabirah
> This is dumn. If you are trying to incorporate Zen into you'r
soul, you
> are obviously desierous of such a thing, which by itself
strikes against
> the very center of Zen beliefs. You hippocrate!
>
SuperSaddam
> paper with the words from Quran printed on it, and wipe my ass with
> that paper on a daily basis. Any suggestions where I can buy such
> toilet paper are welcome.
As a sign of God's wrath on you,
you will be tormented much in your
life, tortured in your
grave, then burn in hell,
wishing you never said this.
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"Joe Cosby" <joec...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> You are -so- right.
>
> In this cynical day and age, it is a beautiful thing indeed that
> Muslims can cling to a set of wholesome and affirmative beliefs which
> we, in the narrow-minded arrogance of our western world, would find
> laughable in a child over the age of seven.
>
> Not only cling to, but can accept with such single-minded passion that
> they are willing to spend their lives engaged in endless bloodshed and
> praying for the ethnocentric apocalyptic bloodbath which this Noble
> collection of fairy tales and hallucinations promises them.
In case you didn't know, most Muslims, like most Christains and
Jews and Hindus, aren't even fighting.
As for fairy tales, one prediction God said in the Quran
was the rising of the sea waters, which is happening now.
A description by God about the mountains is their foundations,
they are anchored like the way ships' bottoms are below the sea.
Scientifically speaking, this was shown to be true.
>
> Shame to you, oh shame, Mr. Moshkevich, that you would make such a
> rude suggestion about this most Holy collection of camel-driver's
> campfire stories!
Campfire stories? Well, before the emergence of Imam Mahdi,
there are three signs which precede it.
1) Embargo on Syria by European community. (1986)
2) Embargo on Iraq by international community. (1990)
3) Present resurgence of Islam.
Certainly not fairy tales or make believe, if
you know what's goinfg on.
>
> Shame shame.
SuperSaddam
you know what's going on.
Norma Blankenfeld
Yes, I do understand that it is Islam/Sufi; although many Sunnis don't
accept the Islam part. It is beautiful...
I can appreciate beauty wherever exists. I don't think that only Muslims
can understand and appreciate this lovely work, or am I wrong AGAIN????
Norma
P.S. I am getting discouraged with the one minded *stuff* that is pandered
here by so many.
Sabr wrote in message ...
>
Sabr
"Al Haj Sheik Yerbouty" <Sh...@kussemeq.com> wrote in message
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> Why then, do Muslims destroy Jewish and Christian holy places?
Recall a bit of the long history of Islam. Let's take Palestine
for a small example. Christian Churches and Jewish Synagogues
were preserved by the Muslim rulers of Jerusalem. While
Palestine was still Palestine... the "doors" to the country were
opened to all religious denominations from around the world. How
do you think that the religious communities in the Holy Land got
there in the first place? Most of them were founded from France
in the mid to late 1800's due to Palestine's invitation.
The State of Israel has ended that! No longer are allowed any
new religious communities.... while existing communities are
"kindly" allowed to try to get along.
Do you know WHO is in charge of guarding and maintaining the
Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem? Muslims. Who sends
their children "soldiers" into that same church/Christian shrine
disrupting worshippers, carrying machine guns and tramping with
their army boots? Jews.
Saabirah
> "Sabr" <saab...@home.net> wrote in message
> news:sul8emp...@corp.supernews.com...
> >
Really?
<SK...@netscape.net> wrote:
> In article <8se4im$ukl$1...@slb0.atl.mindspring.net>,
> "Joe Cosby" <joec...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> > You are -so- right.
> >
> > In this cynical day and age, it is a beautiful thing indeed that
> > Muslims can cling to a set of wholesome and affirmative beliefs which
> > we, in the narrow-minded arrogance of our western world, would find
> > laughable in a child over the age of seven.
> >
> > Not only cling to, but can accept with such single-minded passion that
> > they are willing to spend their lives engaged in endless bloodshed and
> > praying for the ethnocentric apocalyptic bloodbath which this Noble
> > collection of fairy tales and hallucinations promises them.
>
> In case you didn't know, most Muslims, like most Christains and
> Jews and Hindus, aren't even fighting.
>
> As for fairy tales, one prediction God said in the Quran
> was the rising of the sea waters, which is happening now.
Yeah, sure. What sura then?
> A description by God about the mountains is their foundations,
> they are anchored like the way ships' bottoms are below the sea.
Gibberish.
> Scientifically speaking, this was shown to be true.
Yes... Mohammed also said that the mountains are there to stop the
earth from shaking, showing a disturbing lack of knowledge about plate
techtonics for someone supposedly guided by 'allah'.
He also said the clouds and mountains refuded to worship allah...
Fairy tales for the weak minded and death fearing.
Really?
Sheik Yerbouty <Sh...@kussemeq.com> wrote:
> Why then, do Muslims destroy Jewish and Christian holy places?
The same reason they murder non muslims so easily. A indoctrination of
hate and underlying feelings of inadequacy.
DHill
would rather have the fair minded Israelis who have allowed access to all
holy places for everyone as the custodians then anyone else!
Shhheeesshhh!!
Do you remember when Jordan had half of Jerusalem and they actually had
outhouse and the such right beside the Wailing Wall! Now thats brutal!!
No thanks I would never want the Muslims as custodians anywhere!! Its
horrific enough that they have Bethlehem and Jericho, not too mention the
Great Cities of Damascus and Bagdad!
Thanks from Devon in Canada.
"Sabr" <saab...@home.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Al Haj Sheik Yerbouty" <Sh...@kussemeq.com> wrote in message
> news:vgGG5.33701$qM3.2...@news1.bnapk1.occa.home.com...
> > Why then, do Muslims destroy Jewish and Christian holy places?
>
Jefferson Glapski
news:tqRG5.19282$76.4...@news1.rdc1.ab.home.com...
> Sabr, surely you do not believe this tripe you just wrote!! This is
lamo! I
> would rather have the fair minded Israelis who have allowed access to
all
> holy places for everyone as the custodians then anyone else!
> Shhheeesshhh!!
> Do you remember when Jordan had half of Jerusalem and they actually
had
> outhouse and the such right beside the Wailing Wall! Now thats
brutal!!
> No thanks I would never want the Muslims as custodians anywhere!! Its
> horrific enough that they have Bethlehem and Jericho, not too mention
the
> Great Cities of Damascus and Bagdad!
Dude, Jordan actually got injured this week. It's a knee injury, and
he'll be out for 2-3 weeks. Imani Bell moves over to long guard and true
freshman Chris McKelvy starts at long guard.
> Thanks from Devon in Canada.
Dude! I used to work in Devon in Canada! SCTV filmed their Xmas special
thei'r!
Arthur Miller
> "Norma Blankenfeld" <nblank...@vax2.winona.msus.edu> wrote in message
> news:8sfd36$bnj$1...@Urvile.MSUS.EDU...
> > It takes one to know one is something my children used to say. Please
> use
> > your spellchecker--you passionate misspelled words offend everyone.
> Be a
> > putz if you but do it on your own. Norma
>
> 1. I see you'r children were taught well in the art of rhetoric.
> 2. You misplet spelcheker.
> 3. I but be a putz, and I am doing it on my own.
>
> --
> Your pla,
> Jefferson N. Glapski
>
Glapski, cut it out. Fishing season is not open in these other chatrooms.
--
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Northwestern '91
Jefferson Glapski
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Dude, at 2-5, the season is over. If, for probability's sake, we run the
table and participate in the Toilet Bowl I will have been very rong. I
will gladly admit it and make a small donation to the local synagogue,
mosque, church and airport.
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Your pla,
Jefferson N. Glapski
sa...@home.com wrote "Jeffy.Is.Fuckingmental"
olympict...@my-deja.com
In article <3745624AD...@panix.com>,
d...@users.nyu.edu (David Moshkevich) wrote:
> As a sign of solidarity with Israel, I would like to purchase toilet
> paper with the words from Quran printed on it, and wipe my ass with
> that paper on a daily basis. Any suggestions where I can buy such
> toilet paper are welcome.
>
>
Dave Korn
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> Why then, do Muslims destroy Jewish and Christian holy places?
For the same stupid reasons that Jewish people destroy Christian and
Muslim holy places and that Christian people destroy Jewish and Muslim
holy places.
You all think you're right and everyone else is wrong. Your arrogance is
matched only by your gullibility in believing the self-serving lies and
manipulation that you are fed with in your churches. *None* of your
religions bear any resemblance to morality or the nobility of the human
spirit: they're all squalid little power-mongering political organizations
who deal in human death and misery. They've all got blood on their
hands and they're all equally evil. All spiritual men should work for the
overthrow of religion.
God (TING) would be horrified at what you all do in his name, and
I don't want to hear anyone saying "Oh, not us, it's all those other
people, they're bad because they don't follow *our* God", because
you've all been saying it for thousands of years and it just won't
wash any more.
hth,
DaveK
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> > paper with the words from Quran printed on it, and wipe my ass with
> > that paper on a daily basis. Any suggestions where I can buy such
> > toilet paper are welcome.
>
> superstitious metaprogramming sources, because you will upset them and
> hurt their feelings and they will murder you. Even people who don't
> know anything about it will get upset because you did not respect the
> magic thinking of your fellow primates, and they will want you dead
> before you get around to bashing *their* peculiar wackypants
> irrationality. So you behave and ook and scritch and mind your
> manners, and grunt with the herd, or your sanity will mark you as a
> FREAK, to be torn apart and discarded as inedible. One time a bad man
> made a joke about my Jesus so I shot his children in their tiny
> smiling faces and made him watch then burned him alive, and THAT'll
> teach him not to tease about my Jesus! HA! HA HA! HA HA HA! HA! HA HA!
>
> You been warned.
>
> GOD told me to tell you.
Primates are so fuckin' dumb. I get better conversation from
invertebrates these days.
DaveK
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.sig got washed away by floods.
DHill
all Time!! Which Christmas Special-The one with Candy??
Thanks from Devon in Calgary which is south of Devon
"Jefferson Glapski" <jglaps...@PENNSTATEhome.com> wrote in message
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ICEKNIFE
>
> People can be as low as they wish, but when saying such ugly things
and
> suggest using any holy scripture in any way, shape, and form as
suggested in
> this thread is degrading and disgusting to everyone.
No it's not. Where did you get the very demented notion that you
speak for everyone, or even anyone? I'd say you spoke for yourself,
but as confused as you appear to be, even that's far from certain.
> This is not even remotely funny. Norma
To you. Expecting everyone to respect whatever wacky stuff others
find holy is seriously INSANE. Go read the Holy Books of MY religion,
and tell me how you respect "Bob", and we'll talk. Otherwise, you're
just a poor little crazy person, and I will pray to the hideous alien
space-gods who menace this tiny fragile world, in hopes they will
reach in to your broken brain and make you be a good and fun and peppy
and nice kind of crazy instead of the mean and fussy and crabby
control-fixated kind of wackaloola.
"Dance for me baby, show me you got soul.
I said now dance for me baby, show me you got soul.
And if I like the way you dance now,
Then we'll play some wack-a-mole!"
From a traditional Carthaginian blues tune
ICEKNIFE
> > >
> > > How horrible to say such things. To think things is
> something, but to
> > write
> > > them in front of G-d and the world is truly ugly. Your
> actions here
> > are
> > > very, very sad. I hope you will reconsider all of this.
> Norma
> >
> > You misplet GOD. GODDAMBIT, can't you spel GOD? GOD would be
> mispleased
> > by you'r actions of mispleting GOD. GOD, I hope you lern from
> you'r
> > mistakes.
> >
> > GOD BLESS!
>
> Learn to respect the beliefs of others and respect the fact that
> Jewish posters do not write the word "G-d".
Good? Ground? God? Greed? Which GD word is someone being silly about?
>Have some human
> decency man.
no thank you. human decency is thin and watery, and has no flavor or
substance. It also goes soggy in milk and gives mice cancer.
> I am Muslim.... My Holy Book is talked about being desecrated
> here....
If you desecrate your own holy book, you'll anger and sadden an aspect
of the infinite... if I desecrate my holy book, I'll get POINTS that I
can redeem for PRIZES, depending on how well I do it.
My religion is MIGHTY!
I am a SUBGENIUS, and "Bob" is my savior. If a thing is not for me to
eat, drink, smoke, fuck, or wear as a hat, then it is EVIL and FILLED
WITH SATANS!!!
Jefferson Glapski
> No Way!!! That is incredible!! That is one of my favorite comedy
series of
> all Time!! Which Christmas Special-The one with Candy??
Johnny LaRue is dominate.
> Thanks from Devon in Calgary which is south of Devon
Devon is south of Devon. Damb.
ICEKNIFE
"Al Haj Sheik Yerbouty" <Sh...@kussemeq.com> wrote in message
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> Why then, do Muslims destroy Jewish and Christian holy places?
Because it's FUN!
Oh, yeah, right, like YOU never destroyed a house of warship! It's
FUN to become the hand of God and punish the faithless fakes who hide
behind their lies and power mongering inside their temple of
extortion. The hand of the MIND OF THE OMNIVERSE that teaches the
proud and stiff-necked that their claims to hold the only truth are
dangerous and foolish hubris is a MIGHTY hand, and so to destroy all
houses of worship of big self-important religions who claim to know
everything is a BLESSING unto the MIND of THE OMNIVERSE.
HA HA HA HA HA! HA HA! HA! HA HA HA!
ha. ha ha ha. ha ha!
YOU SHUT UP NOW, I AM HOLY, IF YOU SAY A BAD THING TO ME GOD WILL PULL
OFF YOUR HEAD AND SQUEEZE YOU LIKE A TUBE OF TOOTHPASTE BECAUSE I AM
VERY HOLY AND EVEN A SAINT AND THAT IS WUT! AMEN AMEN AMEN! IS MORE OF
WUT!
SuperSaddam
Really? <hodm...@student.otago.ac.nz> wrote:
>> >
> > In case you didn't know, most Muslims, like most Christains and
> > Jews and Hindus, aren't even fighting.
> >
> > As for fairy tales, one prediction God said in the Quran
> > was the rising of the sea waters, which is happening now.
>
> Yeah, sure. What sura then?
Allah says:
"And when the oceans are made to overflow."(ch.82,v.3) (Holy Quran)
>
> > A description by God about the mountains is their foundations,
> > they are anchored like the way ships' bottoms are below the sea.
>
> Gibberish.
Allah says:
"And among His signs are the ships in the sea, like mountains."
(ch.42, v.32) (Holy Quran)
"Did we not make the earth habitable and the mountains pegs?"
(ch.78, v.6-7)
>
> > Scientifically speaking, this was shown to be true.
>
> Yes... Mohammed also said that the mountains are there to stop the
> earth from shaking, showing a disturbing lack of knowledge about plate
> techtonics for someone supposedly guided by 'allah'.
SOmeone who supposedly like you who doesn't have logic,
the mountains, which were formed by plate collisions,
which were created by Allah. In fact, if you didn't know,
it was Allah who created the cust, mantle, core,
and the Earth!
>
> He also said the clouds and mountains refuded to worship allah...
>
> Fairy tales for the weak minded and death fearing.
Yet I proved you wrong, so they are not fairy tales,
just the nonsense you spew out.
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> paper with the words from Quran printed on it, and wipe my ass with
> that paper on a daily basis. Any suggestions where I can buy such
> toilet paper are welcome.
>
>
I just piss on Quran.
Dave
--
Islam is a gutter religion based on dumbass arab culture.
Its founder Mohammed was a low life son of a bitch and a
mad lunatic.
I piss on Mohammed (pig shit be upon him), Allah (pig shit
be upon him) and Quran (dumbass arabic crap) everyday.
ISLAM stands for the following:
[I] = Incest
[S] = Sodomy
[L] = Looting
[A] = Asslifting
[M] = Murder
DHill
From a chuckling Devon in Canada.
"Jefferson Glapski" <jglaps...@PENNSTATEhome.com> wrote in message
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Really?
<SK...@netscape.net> wrote:
> In article <171020001413144710%hodm...@student.otago.ac.nz>,
> Really? <hodm...@student.otago.ac.nz> wrote:
> >> >
> > > In case you didn't know, most Muslims, like most Christains and
> > > Jews and Hindus, aren't even fighting.
> > >
> > > As for fairy tales, one prediction God said in the Quran
> > > was the rising of the sea waters, which is happening now.
> >
> > Yeah, sure. What sura then?
>
> Allah says:
>
> "And when the oceans are made to overflow."(ch.82,v.3) (Holy Quran)
In context:
1. When the Sky is cleft asunder;
2. When the Stars are scattered;
3. When the Oceans are suffered to burst forth;
4. And when the Graves are turned upside down;-
Mohammed didn't say 'the polar ice caps will melt and the excess
release of weater will cause general flooding', now, did he?
And he seemed to have sum funny ideas about the sky too - did he think
that it was a roof that it could be cut up?
You can take comments out of context from that silly collection of
nonsense, but the end result is still that you are quoting silly
nonsense.
> > > A description by God about the mountains is their foundations,
> > > they are anchored like the way ships' bottoms are below the sea.
> >
> > Gibberish.
>
> Allah says:
>
> "And among His signs are the ships in the sea, like mountains."
> (ch.42, v.32) (Holy Quran)
>
> "Did we not make the earth habitable and the mountains pegs?"
> (ch.78, v.6-7)
You have just quoted two lines of gibberish.
So you are agreeing that mohammed's buddy allah was sadly ignorant
about plate technonics?
> > > Scientifically speaking, this was shown to be true.
> >
> > Yes... Mohammed also said that the mountains are there to stop the
> > earth from shaking, showing a disturbing lack of knowledge about plate
> > techtonics for someone supposedly guided by 'allah'.
>
> SOmeone who supposedly like you who doesn't have logic,
> the mountains, which were formed by plate collisions,
> which were created by Allah. In fact, if you didn't know,
> it was Allah who created the cust, mantle, core,
> and the Earth!
Mohammad might have said that, but then, if his god told him that, then
his god didn't know much about how physics, logic, or plate techtonics.
And i find it hard to believe that the all mighty dude doesn't know
something as simple as that.
If you have no idea what I am talking about, go back to school and
learn a bit before you try and debate.
> >
> > He also said the clouds and mountains refuded to worship allah...
> >
> > Fairy tales for the weak minded and death fearing.
>
> Yet I proved you wrong, so they are not fairy tales,
> just the nonsense you spew out.
Poor deluded one, you have spouted some non-sensicle gibberish from an
old collection of scribbles and think you have said something
meaningful?
olympict...@my-deja.com
taking your medication, O K.
Solder of God
read you quran in toi;et and it is help to convert us in you religion?
You are wrong, we are not interesting your quran in any format!!
I=P
In article <8sdcqj$62o$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
islamisgr...@my-deja.com wrote:
> Why British Women Are Turning To Islam
>
> THE SPREAD OF A WORLD CREED
> The Times (London) - Tuesday, 9th November 1993 -Home-news Page
> Lucy Berrington finds the Muslim Faith is winning Western admirers
> despite hostile media coverage
>
> Unprecedented numbers of British people, nearly all of them women, are
> converting to Islam at a time of deep divisions within the Anglican
and
> Catholic churches.
>
> The rate of conversions has prompted predictions that Islam will
> rapidly become an important religious force in this country. "Within
> the next 20 years the number of British converts will equal or
overtake
> the immigrant Muslim community that brought the faith here", says Rose
> Kendrick, a religious education teacher at a Hull comprehensive and
the
> author of a textbook guide to the Koran. She says: "Islam is as much a
> world faith as is Roman Catholicism. No one nationality claims it as
> its own". Islam is also spreading fast on the continent and in
> America.
>
> The surge in conversions to Islam has taken place despite the negative
> image of the faith in the Western press. Indeed, the pace of
> conversions has accelerated since publicity over the Salman Rushdie
> affair, the Gulf War and the plight of the Muslims in Bosnia. It is
> even more ironic that most British converts should be women, given the
> widespread view in the west that Islam treats women poorly. In the
> United States, women converts outnumber men by four to one, and in
> Britain make up the bulk of the estimated 10, 000 to 20, 000 converts,
> forming part of a Muslim community of 1 to 1.5 million. Many of
> Britain's "New Muslims" are from middle-class backgrounds. They
include
> Matthew Wilkinson, a former head boy of Eton who went on to Cambridge,
> and a son and daughter of Lord Justice Scott, the judge heading the
> arms-to-Iraq enquiry.
>
> A small-scale survey by the Islamic Foundation in Leicester suggests
> that most converts are aged 30 to 50. Younger Muslims point to many
> conversions among students and highlight the intellectual thrust of
> Islam. "Muhammad" said, "The light of Islam will rise in the West" and
> I think that is what is happening in our day" says Aliya Haeri, an
> American-born psychologist who converted 15 years ago. She is a
> consultant to the Zahra Trust, a charity publishing spiritual
> literature and is one of Britain's prominent Islamic speakers. She
> adds: "Western converts are coming to Islam with fresh eyes, without
> all the habits of the East, avoiding much of what is culturally wrong.
> The purest tradition is finding itself strongest in the West."
>
> Some say the conversions are prompted by the rise of comparative
> religious education. The British media, offering what Muslims describe
> as a relentless bad press on all things Islamic, is also said to have
> helped. Westerners despairing of their own society - rising in crime,
> family breakdown, drugs and alcoholism - have come to admire the
> discipline and security of Islam. Many converts are former Christians
> disillusioned by the uncertainty of the church and unhappy with the
> concept of the Trinity and deification of Jesus.
>
> Quest of the Convert - Why Change?
>
> Other converts describe a search for a religious identity. Many had
> previously been practising Christians but found intellectual
> satisfaction in Islam. "I was a theology student and it was the
> academic argument that led to my conversion." Rose Kendrick, a
> religious education teacher and author, said she objected to the
> concept of the original sin: "Under Islam, the sins of the fathers
> aren't visited on the sons. The idea that God is not always forgiving
> is blasphemous to Muslims.
>
> Maimuna, 39, was raised as a High Anglican and confirmed at 15 at the
> peak of her religious devotion. "I was entranced by the ritual of the
> High Church and thought about taking the veil." Her crisis came when a
> prayer was not answered. She slammed the door on visiting vicars but
> travelled to convents for discussions with nuns. "My belief came back
> stronger, but not for the Church, the institution or the dogma." She
> researched every Christian denomination, plus Judaism, Buddhism and
> Krishna Consciousness, before turning to Islam.
>
> Many converts from Christianity reject the ecclesiastical hierarchy
> emphasising Muslims' direct relationship with God. They sense a lack
of
> leadership in the Church of England and are suspicious of its apparent
> flexibility. "Muslims don't keep shifting their goal-posts," says Huda
> Khattab, 28, author of The Muslim Woman's Handbook, published this
year
> by Ta-Ha. She converted ten years ago while studying Arabic at
> university. "Christianity changes, like the way some have said pre-
> marital sex is okay if its with the person you're going to marry. It
> seems so wishy-washy. Islam was constant about sex, about praying five
> times a day. The prayer makes you conscious of God all the time.
You're
> continually touching base.
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
>
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Hiduism is a gutter religion based on dumbass and oppressive Indian
culture. Its founder the Mother fucker Ram was a low life son of a
bitch and a mad lunatic.
I piss on Indira Gandi (pig shit be upon her), Lord Shiva (pig shit
be upon him) and Geeta (dumbass and filthy crap) everyday.
HINDUISM stands for the following:
(H) Homosexuality
(I) Incest
(N) Neurosis
(D) Dowry
(U) Urine
(I) Impudence
(S) Sodomy
(M) Murder
By the way, David Starr's mother was kicked out from almost every
Indian brothels because, she is suffering from venereal diseases, yet
she refused to accept the doctor's advice and knowingly endengering her
clients' safety!