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Jay
religion Islam is! Muslims have never failed to insist that theirs is
the most tolerant faith, that Islam nurtures the flowering all all
streams of thoughts.
If this is the case, can someone enlighten me as to how writings of two
ordinary mortals can hurt / blaspheme Islam or the prophet in any
manner? I am specifically referring to the incident in which two
university students have been sentenced to death in Tehran for writing
some play that is perceived to be an insult to Islam.
If Islam is so great a religion, my understanding is writings of
ordinary mortals must not hurt it. A lot of garbage is written about
Hinduism, Christianity, Judaism, Sikhism, etc. However, I am yet to
find some priest, rabbi, panda or guru pass a fatwa demanding the death
of anyone who said/wrote anything against their respective faiths.
Perhaps, Islam is not that great as it is made out. For if it was so
great, how can mortals such as Rushidie, Tasleema or two wayward Iranian
university students ever cause it any harm.
Jay
Speedy Gonzalez
writes
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Speedy Gonzalez
Religion is only a method of controlling weak minds.
Shaik Ubaid
weight as action. khushwant singh (a nn muslim) perhaps the greates writer
in india and an advisor t viking publications advised them that rushdie
knew the above fact and has written the book to generate controversy 4
sales. he advise viking penguin not to publish the book.
a book insulting hinduism in india would generate the same controversy.
its the misunderstandng of the east and the west. in the east honor is
paramount in the west freedom of expression is.
thats is why the pope, president bush, rajv gandhi of india all condemned
rushdies book.
rushdie fooled the west as did tasleema for fame and money.
Mo
.Company of women ..
irgun1943
Shaik Ubaid wrote in message ...
>in eastern cultures irrespective of religion written word has the same
>weight as action. khushwant singh (a nn muslim) perhaps the greates writer
>in india and an advisor t viking publications advised them that rushdie
>knew the above fact and has written the book to generate controversy 4
>sales. he advise viking penguin not to publish the book.
Dear Shaik,
The first step in improving yourself is realizing that words are words
and actions are actions.
Censorship is the surest way to keep any Society stagnant and ignorant.
irgun43
Speedy Gonzalez
Shaik Ubaid <avic...@post.its.mcw.edu> writes
>in eastern cultures irrespective of religion written word has the same
>weight as action. khushwant singh (a nn muslim) perhaps the greates writer
>in india and an advisor t viking publications advised them that rushdie
>knew the above fact and has written the book to generate controversy 4
>sales. he advise viking penguin not to publish the book.
>its the misunderstandng of the east and the west. in the east honor is
>paramount in the west freedom of expression is.
>thats is why the pope, president bush, rajv gandhi of india all condemned
>rushdies book.
>rushdie fooled the west as did tasleema for fame and money.
>
Just shows how fucking stupid you lot really are, and by "you lot" I
mean -
>in eastern cultures irrespective of religion
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Shaik Ubaid
your own people in the americas at the hands of the westerners.
V.C.Vijayaraghavan
> In article <19990925215410...@ng-ft1.aol.com>,
> mun...@aol.com (Muna123) wrote:
> > The essence of Hindutva is the worship
> > of Penis ( = Lingam) of their lords
> > Advani, Raju Bhaya, Savarkar, Hitler.
> > The Sangh Lafangs worship the Lingam
> > daily and also include in their name
> > such as Mahalingam ( Great Penis) etc.
> > The devotion of these dick worshippers
> > knows no bounds and as revolting as
> > suckling each other Linga for holy
> > "LingaJuice". The world was shocked
> > to hear that former Indian PM Desai,
> > Mo, Hulagu, ramkrisp etc. use to drink
> > their own Urine but this is an old and
> > popular tradition in Sangh-inspired
> > Hinduism. This Hindu drink is popularly
> > known as "HindutvaCola".
>
> Quite an interesting rant. I've seen a few Hindus say that such a
> practice is not true. Wether or not it is true is irrelevant, I don't
> care, I'm an atheist. However, it seems odd that Muslims would criticize
> Hindus drinking Urine.
It is even odder that the only publicly recorded urine-drinker viz, Morarji
Desai who lived till the age of 99, was awarded the highest civilian honour
of the Homeland of Muslims, Pakistan Nishan-e-Pakistan.
This proves two things.
If you drink your own urine a) You will live till the age of 99 and 2) you
will get the highest civilian honour from Pakistan
> Imagine a Christian saying to a Muslim "I know
> the Koran is false, because it says Jesus was born of a virgin". You
> could quickly show them their text says the same thing! I offered this
> scenario as an analogy. Even if Hindus do drink urine as a part of their
> faith, Muslims have no right to criticize it, as Muhammad taught that
> drinking camel urine was a way to heal sickness. This can be seen in
> Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 59, Number 505 (Special thanks to A. Sheraz
> for pointing out this hadith in another post). The question now becomes,
> which is safer, human urine, or camel urine?
>
> On a second note, in your post (third line of the above) you listed
> Hitler as one of the Hindu Gods or Lords. Did you mean Adolph Hitler? I
> ask because no Hindu worships Adolph Hitler.Some Muslims however
> idolize him! Gimel Abdel Nasser, president of Egypt, prior to the six
> day war in 1967, promised to "push the jews into the sea, and finish
> Hitler's job". Furthermore, last July it was reported that a museum in
> Tehran, Iran, holds two watercolor paintings by Adolf Hitler, given
> decades ago by the Fuehrer to the Iranian ambassador to Germany, the
> museum's curator said Monday. I guess Hitler is actually the Islamic
> LORD of art, as his paintings hang in museums in Islamic countries.
> Disgusting.
>
> Religion is poison! Leave your superstitions at the door!
> http://www.infidels.org
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
Jay
Muslim and a Swine must be pretty equal.
Jay
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Speedy Gonzalez wrote:
Speedy Gonzalez
>It is even odder that the only publicly recorded urine-drinker viz, Morarji
>Desai who lived till the age of 99, was awarded the highest civilian honour
>of the Homeland of Muslims, Pakistan Nishan-e-Pakistan.
>
>This proves two things.
>If you drink your own urine a) You will live till the age of 99 and 2) you
>will get the highest civilian honour from Pakistan
>
Jay
Your observation on the hold of religion on the people is flawed. If religion had such a hold as you have suggested, the social reformation of Hinduism that resulted in the discarding of such medieval practices as Sati, Castism, etc. would not have taken place. Logically the people who promoted such causes would have met the same fate as Rushidie. Neither would Hinduism tolerate the birth of other religions such as Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism all of which were born as a consequence of the degeneration of the Hindu society of the day. Neither would the social reformation that took place within Christianity, the break-up of the Catholic church, the condemnation of the Conquisition ever take place.
Perhaps, you must more appropriately state that Muslims are of a fanatic disposition (and it would not matter where they lived).
Jay
Jay
Farhan Siddiqui
Speedy Gonzalez <spe...@gonzalez.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> I
> >It is even odder that the only publicly recorded urine-drinker viz,
Morarji
> >Desai who lived till the age of 99, was awarded the highest civilian
honour
> >of the Homeland of Muslims, Pakistan Nishan-e-Pakistan.
> >
> >This proves two things.
> >If you drink your own urine a) You will live till the age of 99 and
2) you
> >will get the highest civilian honour from Pakistan
> >
> Na! It actually proves 3. The above 2, plus he was a sick fucker.
How do you know ? Did you have a liason with him ?
Farhan Siddiqui
> Speedy Gonzalez
> Religion is only a method of controlling weak minds.
>
Speedy Gonzalez
Shaik Ubaid <avic...@post.its.mcw.edu> writes
>speedy u sick idiot. what do u stand 4. do u feel the pain of genocide of
>your own people in the americas at the hands of the westerners.
>
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Speedy Gonzalez
Shaik Ubaid <avic...@post.its.mcw.edu> writes
>in eastern cultures irrespective of religion written word has the same
>weight as action. khushwant singh (a nn muslim) perhaps the greates writer
>in india and an advisor t viking publications advised them that rushdie
>knew the above fact and has written the book to generate controversy 4
>sales. he advise viking penguin not to publish the book.
>a book insulting hinduism in india would generate the same controversy.
>its the misunderstandng of the east and the west. in the east honor is
>paramount in the west freedom of expression is.
>thats is why the pope, president bush, rajv gandhi of india all condemned
>rushdies book.
>rushdie fooled the west as did tasleema for fame and money.
>
there again he didn't have to try hard did he?