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SmoothLander

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Sep 22, 2002, 5:34:37 AM9/22/02
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Morarji Desai: Urine-Drinking
Brahmin PM
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Brahmin Power


Morarji Desai, a Brahmin belonging to the Anavil sub-caste, was
installed as Prime Minister of India on March 24, 1977, after
the lifting of Indira Nehru-Gandhi's Kautilyan emergency. He was the
fourth Brahmin Prime Minister of the Indian Union in a
row, after Pandit J.Nehru, Pandit Shastri and Indira Gandhi (barring
the 14-day care-taker PM G.L.Nanda). He ruled up to
July 28, 1979. Immediately after coming to power, he devoted all his
powers to propagating Brahmanism, especially the
peculiar Brahmin custom of drinking human urine. Prior to Pandit
Morarji Desai, urine-drinking was confined to the Brahmins,
but he devoted his life to spreading this custom amongst the general
Indian population. This article provides some quotes and
extracts on this peculiarly Brahmin custom and Pandit Morarji Desai's
efforts to spread it.

"Morarji Desai regularly drank his own urine"

Bangladesh-Web
Feb 14, 2000
" .. Former Indian Prime Minister, Shri Moraji Desai
regularly drank his
own urine ..."

- `Religion, the Karl Marx's
Opium,' by Narayan Gupta


"Morarji Desai, a Brahman"

Dalit Voice
1-16 (August 1986): 11.
"Jagjivan Ram Dies A Hindu"

"...when the Janata Party won, [Ram] should have been the
Prime Minister but two
upper-caste Hindus --- Jayaprakash Narayan and Kripalani ---
manipulated things to make
Morarji Desai, a Brahman, as Prime Minister. Again, after
the Janata Party split in 1979,
President Sanjiv Reddy refused to accept his claim for [the]
Prime Ministership and
preferred Charan Singh. Upper Caste Hindus, who were till
then with the Janata, swung to
Mrs Gandhi's Congress fearing that another Janata victory
would surely make an
Untouchable as Prime Minister of India... He swallowed all
these insults after insults,
hoping against hope that one day the Hindus would make him
the PM of India".


Morarji Desai: A Fanatic Brahmin

Indian Express, 09 January 1998
Cash and carry systems

Arvind N. Das

"Immediately after the Emergency, when the claim of Babu
Jagjivan Ram to Prime Ministership
was bypassed in favour of the Anavil Brahmin, Morarji
Desai, it was reported that Jagjivan
Ram was so disappointed by this mode of conducting politics
that he exclaimed, ``Is mulk mein
chamar kabhi pradhan mantri nahi ban sakta hai (A backward
caste candidate can never become
Prime Minister in this land).'' "


New Scientist
27 September 1997
Letters: Taking the piss

Urine drinking has the trappings of New Ageism and
pseudoscience ("The Fabricators", 23 August, p 36). I
have not come across any reputable reference to the benefits of
drinking urine, but I have heard that certain
Hollywood luminaries do it and some claim that it has
miraculous curative powers.

I hope that the museums where these fabricators work have a
science department that ensures the accuracy
and educational content of their exhibits to make sure visitors
take an accurate message away with them.


Wayne Chin

New York

While some ancient medical practices have value, quite often
they can be very harmful, notwithstanding the
romantic view taken by those who look at them uncritically.

"The Fabricators" gives a very interesting example of what
seems disgusting to most people: drinking one's
urine. This was something that Morarji Desai, the late Indian
Prime Minister used to do. Some
Indians also drink cow's urine.

In northern Pakistan and parts of India, external wounds are
treated by washing with the person's urine. A
bizarre and dangerous practice in Pakistan is to treat a wound
on a finger by inserting it in a hole dug in the
ground filled with urine. This is surely a quick way to get
tetanus and Lord knows what else.

It would be useful to know about the uses and abuses of this
yellow liquid. Can New Scientist commission a
medical expert to enlighten us?


Q. Isa Daudpota
Programme Director, Sustainable Development
Networking Programme Pakistan


" Morarji Desai was one such leader who advertised his
urine therapy as
soon as he became India's prime minister. Until then,
he had never
mentioned it. One wonders what prime ministership has
got to do with urine
therapy? Some think that Gandhi, Nehru and Desai
behaved in such
shameful way in order to get recognition from the
public."

`Koran and the Kaffir,' by A. Ghosh, A.
Ghosh
Publishers, 5720 W. Little York, #216.

Urine is the Ayurvedic "Water of Life"!

"Former Indian Prime Minister Morarji Desai celebrated his
99th birthday in early March. To what
does he attribute his long life?
Desai believes that drinking his own urine (called the
"water of life" in Ayurvedic circles)
deserves credit. G.K. Thakker, director of the Water of
Life Foundation in Bombay claims
that this practice can cure everything from the common cold
to cancer!"
Source: Reuter's World Report, March 6, 1995, as reported
in National Council Against
Health Fraud, March/April 1995. Food & Nutrition Resource
Newsletter, March/April 1995
No. 95-2

ASTROLOGY - Another PseudoScience

By Dr. A.T.Kovoor

'Blind belief in astrology on the ground that Newton and
Carl Jung believed it is as absurd as
drinking urine as a curative medicine on the ground that
Morarji Desai does so'

`KOVOOR PROVES ASTROLOGY AND PAMISTRY AS HOAXES' (This was
one of Kovoor's Last Public
Demonstrations of Hoaxers. Dr. Kovoor died in September
1978) Bubbles Vol.3 No.1 January 1989. Page 2


Salon Magazine
June 7, 1999
`Urine has served as medicine and sacrament for thousands of
years, and not just in India, where an entire
chapter of the Damar Tantra is devoted to drinking shivambu,
the water of the god Shiva, and where
Prime Minister Morarji Desai started each day with a steaming
glass of his own decoction and
lived, healthy and supple-skinned, to see 99.

Just about every country, uro-historians say, has its folk
tradition of taking the piss. Sufis and Tibetan
Buddhist healers use urine. Rural women in some Arab countries
pee into the cookpot to keep their
husbands faithful, Carmen Thomas said. And in Central Africa,
Havelock Ellis wrote in his 1928 "Studies in
the Psychology of Sex," "The female attendant in the king's
bedchamber must urinate and wet his feet
before he may safely rise in the morning."


Pandit Morarji Desai: Fanatic
Islamophobic Brahmin!
`Morarji Desai had no hesitation in declaring at
the National Democratic
Convention in New Delhi on November 29, 1964:
"The Hindu ma
jority is clean-hearted and fair minded. I cannot
say the same
about the majority of Indian Muslims" (The
Hindustan Times;
November 30, 1964).'

`Neither wave nor saffron?' A. G. Noorani,
Frontline, Volume 16 - Issue 21, Oct. 09
- 22, 1999.


Hence, Muslims hate Morarji Desai the Urine-Drinking Brahmin as
much as the Dalits do :

"Desai ... a tireless drinker of cow urine"

Pakistani Newspaper claims Atal and Advani were Gay


Pakistan Observer, 25 June 2000
Justice delayed is justice denied

Lt Col MZ Malik (Retd)

" Islam does not countenance class struggle that assails a
society due to utter loss of morality. A B
Vajpayee and Advani, according to their friends of the
pre-partition days, were gays and
then turned homosexuals and thats probably why Vajpayee
because of his liberal attitude like
the Democrats in the USA, was picked up by Jimmy Carter and
his Foreign Secretary, when he
visited the US as Foreign Minister of India, in 1977, in
the Desais government. Desai himself
was a tireless drinker of cow urine. They both enjoy a
unique position in the Democrat
Presidents hearts because even President Clinton has
admired them, for their extraordinary
liberalism."


Note: Dalitstan Journal does not support or oppose any of the claims
made by Pakistan Observer. These statements are the
sole responsbility of Pakistan Observer and not of Dalitstan Journal.
Dalitstan Journal merely repoduces them here for
educational purposes. All complaints, corrections, and other
correspondence should be direted to the editors of Pakistan
Observer.

Source: www.newscientist.com/ns/970927/letters.html
http://inic.utexas.edu/asnic/sagar/fall.1994/dec.94.fn.html
http://www.expressindia.com/ie/daily/19980109/00950084.html
www.bangladesh-web.com/news/feb/14/dv4n135.htm
www.pakobserver.com/june2000/25june/article.htm
http://hindutva.org/KoranKafir/chapter20.txt
outreach.missouri.edu/hesnutrnews/fnr95-2.htm
www.healthlibrary.com/reading/yod/may98/Not-Uns.htm
www.salonmag.com/health/feature/1999/06/07/urine/index2.html
http://www.flonnet.com/fl1621/16210660.htm

koolfire_or

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Sep 22, 2002, 1:26:35 PM9/22/02
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chal...@hotmail.com (SmoothLander) wrote in message news:<65e30982.02092...@posting.google.com>...

can you be sure you hindoo devdasi mom, was not swigging urine on the
sly:)))you are not a muslim,you pakis claim to be,becoz after rape of
your moms by sullas,that was your only option:)))))...tell me about
your hindoo roots first..you chamar choothia:))

Subir

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Sep 22, 2002, 8:41:19 PM9/22/02
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chal...@hotmail.com (SmoothLander) wrote in message news:<65e30982.02092...@posting.google.com>...
> Morarji Desai: Urine-Drinking
> Brahmin PM

Doesn't quite compare with Mushy's expert gulping down all of the
fountain of Bushy's loin juices, eh ?

Gulshan Khan

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Sep 22, 2002, 8:59:58 PM9/22/02
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Shitbira wants to swallow like he did Slick Willys ...... :))

koolfire_or

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Sep 23, 2002, 7:50:18 AM9/23/02
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Gulshan Khan <Gulshan...@deja.com> wrote in message news:<972sougdt24ug3j1l...@4ax.com>...
> On 22 Sep 2002 10:26:35 -0700, rohit_...@lycos.com (koolfire_or)
> Shutup kooli gandoo every one of bahRAT matas fucker from aryans,
> sullas, goras, kalas are product of devdasis egg. Sala sootis why are
> you so ashamed of your devdasi mata.. :))))

yesssss:)))thats why you are a half sulla son of raped hindoo devdasi
and sulla sand nigger,as if we dont know history of devdasitan ie
pakistan:)))) we hindoos made you like that:))))

Gulshan Khan

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On 23 Sep 2002 04:50:18 -0700, rohit_...@lycos.com (koolfire_or)
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Thats why you are 5 percent sulla 5 percent aryan and 90 percent a
kallo habshi. A product of a rotten devdasis egg and lulla of an
invader. Actually that should be lulla's of invader's... :))))

koolfire_or

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Gulshan Khan <Gulshan...@deja.com> wrote in message news:<4t1vouc9ijrbvhn13...@4ax.com>...

YAAAAWNNNNNN....GULSHAN YOU BORING IDIOT,COME SUCK MY DICK,YOU WILL
GET SOME BRAINS:)))))))

M. Ranjit Mathews

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chal...@hotmail.com (SmoothLander) wrote ...

> Morarji Desai: Urine-Drinking
> Brahmin PM
>
> Brahmin Power

How is a nonBrahmin's rise to PMship by a democratic process an
indication of Brahmin power?

> Morarji Desai, a Brahmin belonging to the Anavil sub-caste,

The Anavil caste is not Brahmin.
http://www.anavil.net/morarjidesai.htm

http://www.anavil.net/aboutanavils.htm

During the early sixteenth century, when the Moguls' first came to the
Surat district as conquerors, the Anavils were soldier farmers by all
accounts. Why they were soldiering, besides farming, is not known for
sure but one can guess. The word "DESAI" was not is use to describe
these people then. In those days, they were popularly known as
BHATELLAS rather than just ANAVILS. There are five interpretations for
this sobriquet:

1. Bhatella is a combination of two Sanskrit words: (BHAT+EELA). BHAT
means a soldier and EELA means earth. The word, therefore, means a
soldier-farmer;

2. The word could also be a combination of BHAT+HATHILA. HATHILA means
tenacious or obstinate and hence the word would be interpreted as a
tenacious or obstinate soldier;

3. The word has also been interpreted as a degenerate or derogative
derivative of the word BRASHTILLA which means those brahmins who had
lost their purity;

4. The word could have some BHAT meaning RICE + EELA meaning EARTH
thus being interpreted as RICE CULTIVATORS. It is also true that they
were the very first rice farmers in southern Gujarat, and

5. The word could be a combination of BHAT meaning RIVER DELTA + EELA
meaning EARTH and hence being interpreted as a people who farmed or
lived in river deltas.

The first interpretation, that of a soldier farmer, appears to be the
most likely interpretation because the word is a proper Sanskrit word
and Anavils were certainly fighters. Other surnames (family names)
that are common to the Anavils confirm this observation-NAIK VASHI and
MEHTA- all of which mean professionals in the army or Royal
administration. NAYAK means a platoon leader, e.g. GANANAYAK. The
Sanskrit word "VASH" means to control and MEHTA was a title given to
the prime ministers of the princely states in Saurashtra were called
Mehtas. Today, the meaning of the word MEHTA has expanded to include
accountants and teachers, possibly because of the heavy concentration
on education in the last hundred years since the arrival of British
influence and many Mehta families adopted a natural bent towards
accounting and teaching which is what they did when they were advisors
to the rulers of the princely states in earlier times.

koolfire_or

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Gulshan Khan <Gulshan...@deja.com> wrote in message news:<71v1pu0quo9m8e90h...@4ax.com>...
> On 24 Sep 2002 02:27:10 -0700, rohit_...@lycos.com (koolfire_or)
> hahaha chakka shouting / screaming and dreaming of a dick :))) The
> only dick you are aware of is like your mata and didi a circumcised
> dick.... :))))
>
> When your chakka pitha surrendered your matha to the invaders did she
> offered her phudda willingly or was it a brutal rape :))) What mandir
> is your mata and didi serving today... :)))))

Gulshan Khan

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>chal...@hotmail.com (SmoothLander) wrote in message news:<65e30982.02092...@posting.google.com>...

Shutup kooli gandoo every one of bahRAT matas fucker from aryans,

Gulshan Khan

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