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Muslim population in Ladakh up from 10 to 45% .

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Mo

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The gradual takeover of one country after another by Islam
must be stopped

30 Years Ago


Muslim population in Ladakh up from 10 to 45 per cent in 20
years The District of Leh which had a 90 per cent Buddhist
majority before Sheikh Abdullah came to power and democracy
was introduced in Jammu and Kashmir about twenty years ago,
has no more than 55 per cent Buddhists today and it looks
almost certain that before long they will be in minority.

Surreptitious but concerted attempts have been made to
increase the percentage of Muslim population in Ladakh in
order to change the very character of this Buddhist region
and conversions and fomenting of riots are a part of this
deliberate plan, according to the list of grievances
submitted by the Buddhist Action Committee which has
launched a satyagraha in Leh since April 29. The simmering
discontent among the Buddhists in Ladakh suddenly came to
light after the events of April 3 in Leh which attracted
wide attention in the country. It was on that day that the
Buddhists took out a procession to protest against insult to
their religion. ... The Buddhists are highly dissatisfied
with the state of affairs, especially the flagrantly
discriminatory attitude of the Sadiq Government towards
them. They allege that:

1.The Kashmir Government has not given full religious
freedom to the Buddhists.
2.Permission for constructing a dharamshala and a temple at
Kargil has not been given.
3.Demand for arrangements for the teaching of the Buddhist
language as a subject at the university has been turned
down.
4.Even rightful claims of Ladakh are ignored.
5.The Ladakhi Buddhist youths are made to change their
religion by fraud.
6.Riots between the Ladakhi Buddhists and Muslims are
fomented.

The Buddhists have started a satyagraha from April 29 and
batches of satyagrahis including women are offering
themselves for arrest every day in batches of five each. The
number of those offering themselves for arrest is increasing
every day and the total number of arrests is more than
hundred by now. Out of five Kushoks in Ladakh (head lamas)
four are supporting the satyagraha. One of them has joined
hands with Muslims but his colleague lamas (every Kushok has
some 300 to 400 lamas under him) have dissociated themselves
from his activities.

The main demands for the Ladakhi Buddhists are:-
1. The Central Government should immediately redress the
grievances listed above.
2. Ladakh should be taken out of the charge of the Jammu and
Kashmir Government.
3. Tibetan refugees should be settled in Ladakh. May 10,
1969


Mo

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May 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/12/99
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Since this report the Muslims have gone further and become
an abslolute majority in Ladakh . Allah be praised too much
, yet another country falls under his dictatorial rule .
I will answer the Israeli citizen in this thread . 50 years
ago the Muslim Arab pop of Israel was 150,000 and today is
well over a million - a 6 or 7 fold natural rise while the
Jewish has gone up maybe 5 fold but mostly due to
immigration from 1m to 5m
1.5m from Arab countries
1m from West
1m from Russia
What is going to happen over the next 50 years as there are
no more Jews left to bring in and in fact some may even
emigrate to America ?
From CIA fact book
http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/country-frame.html

Palestine ( and probably Israeli Arab)
Total fertility rate: 5.06 children born/woman (1997 est.)
Population growth rate: 4.32% (1997 est.)

Israel
Total fertility rate: 2.74 children born/woman (1997 est.)
take out the 20% higher Arab rate and persumably 2.4 per
Jewish woman ie stable population

So in the next 50 years one can expect 7m total Arabs and
6-7m total Jews . Now liberals might argue that the Arab
majoirty will be as patriotic towards Israel as the Jews but
what happens if the land cannot accomodate such a vast
addition in such a short time and they gravitate towards
Hamas ?
Any kind of discrimination against Arab citizens is not
acceptable but equally Jews would be foolish to commit Hara
Kiri and the govt should make a three child limit for all
women . It wont affect the Jewish women but will stop the
Arab and Jewish orthodox who wont even fight for Israel from
getting out of control .

For India - it has more Muslims than Pakistan and they are
poorer so the number of births in India amongst the Muslims
can be expected to be the same or higher ie 5m out of a
total births of 26m ( CIA fact book) ie 20% - a huge jump
from the 9% Muslim population in 1947 .
So in the next 50 because the Hindus have attained stable
pop 2.4 children per woman while Muslims are over 5 per
woman the rate of growth is going to get even higher and
they will certainly be over 50% by birth within 40 years .
As for the total subcontinent - Muslim births today are 14m
out of 35m or over 40% and will in another 10 or so exceed
50% so they will overtaken ALL other groups combined and the
Indian subcontinent falls to Islam .
Pseudoseculars can ignore these figures if they want but the
Indian people will pay the price as the Mullahs take their
freedoms away as they have done in all Islamic countries.

Mo

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Another way to look at is that consider 100 Israeli women .
18 are Arab with 90 children . So since the total birth rate
is 2.72 per woman , the total number of births is 272 , so
the non Muslims today have 274-90 = 180 births , so today
the Muslim percentage is
90/274 = 33 %
and with the percentage increasing each year it wont be even
20 years before this goes up to over 50% and Israel fall to
Islam .
What Israel needs to do is to have a census of all newborn
and if the Muslim percentage is 33% than to panic and to
impose a 3 child limit for fall - else burqas , floggings ,
amputations are inevitable ..


farhan_...@my-dejanews.com

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Kashmir had absolute Muslim majority in 1947 before Indian
invasion and illegal occupation. There are over a million
Kashmiri refugees living in Pakistan that were forced to
leave due to Indian atrocities. The Kashmir issue must be
peacefully resolved as per UN resolution calling for a
referendum which will give Kashmiris the right to decide
their own future. If ballots are not allowed then bullets fly.

Farhan Siddiqui


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Mo

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>so today the Muslim percentage by birth in Israel is
90/274 = 33 % <

What happens when these girls born today grow up and
complete their families by age 18-25 ? If present trends
continue then out of 100 women
Total births 274
Muslim women33 out of 100 so births 33x5 = 165
So Muslim %age
165/ 274= 60 by birth and that is within 25 years of today
- Israel doomed as a Jewish state .
Present trends wont continue - the overall birth rate will
probably fall to 2.2 per woman and for Arab women 4 , but
it doesnt alter the calculations
Total births of 100 women in 20 years 220
Muslims 33x4 = 132 Non Muslim 98
so Muslim percentage = 132/220 = 60%
Figures may be out by 10 years but the writing is on the
wall . Within 25 years or so Muslims will be the majority by
birth in Israel and in a democratic system as happened to
Kosovo take over Israel with the help of Nato .
For India too Muslims are now 23 % by birth and with twice
the number of children as non Muslims are well on their way
to a majoirty within 30 years .
What both countries need to do is to have a three child
limit and to encourage educated women to have children to
double the pay for all women with 3 children or less while
they are at work and the child is less than 15..


M. Ranjit Mathews

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farhan_...@my-dejanews.com wrote:

> Kashmir had absolute Muslim majority in 1947 before Indian
> invasion and illegal occupation.

It was Pathan irregulars sent by Pakistan who invaded Kashmir. They
massacred, raped, looted and pillaged. In some cases, every non Muslim
in a town was killed. Non muslim Kashmiris in POK were not allowd by
Sheikh Abdullah to settle in Kashmir and became refugees in India
(outside Kashmir).

> There are over a million
> Kashmiri refugees living in Pakistan that were forced to
> leave due to Indian atrocities.

Who came to occupy their homes ? When did they leave ? Where do they
live today ? Where did you get the number "1 million" ?

> The Kashmir issue must be
> peacefully resolved as per UN resolution calling for a
> referendum which will give Kashmiris the right to decide
> their own future.

Deciding their own future is precisely what Pakistan refused to allow
Kashmiris, by not complying with the terms of the UN resolution.. Since
India is so intransigent, why doesn't Pakistan let Kashmiris in POK
decide their own future ?

irgun1943

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Mo <10033...@compuserve.com> wrote in message ...

> Since this report the Muslims have gone further and become
>an abslolute majority in Ladakh .

Dear mo,
Of course you're correct.
It's best if Moslems live with each other and overpopulate to their
heart's content . The problem is that they start going to underpopulated
countries for jobs.
strict immigration laws I say!
irgun43


M Tab

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May 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/16/99
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HEY" MO"...... U must be really bored, have no life, or just Plain
stupid and dont get it that readers on Iranian.culture.org. dont care to
read the garbage u keep posting on their bulletin. Try reading some of
the responses to your postings and figure that out for yourself. I'm
sure even Dumb ass, ignorant people like u are able to get their heads
off their ass once in a while and look up and see what's coming down on
them.....

farhan_...@my-dejanews.com

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May 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/16/99
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Mo is a retired Indian living in Canada and seems
to have no other social activity then posting on
the web. Probably his family and friends ignore
him so tries to get some attention by cross posting
abnoxious articles.

Farhan Ahmad Siddiqui


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