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hab...@anony.net
May 22, 2013, 4:35:37 PM5/22/13
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1 Outlaw all incitement to kill especially by ethnic radio stations
and jail them
2 Order a special prison for all brutal murderers where there would be
no protection and no tax payers funds to be spent on feeding them. Let
the charities or whoever wants to keep them alive pay the money for
their food.
and jail them
2 Order a special prison for all brutal murderers where there would be
no protection and no tax payers funds to be spent on feeding them. Let
the charities or whoever wants to keep them alive pay the money for
their food.
Ron
May 22, 2013, 4:40:49 PM5/22/13
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<hab...@anony.net> wrote in message
news:519d28a2....@news.giganews.com...
We will be expected to forget that 9/11 and other acts of terrorism took
place before "Iraq" and "Afghanistan".
Tell it like it is.
May 22, 2013, 4:52:10 PM5/22/13
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terrorism in Christian majority nations is a Jew-Muslim problem.
Tell it like it is.
May 22, 2013, 4:54:29 PM5/22/13
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On May 22, 3:52 pm, "Tell it like it is."
worldwide
terrorism is a Jew-Muslim problem.
<DanielAlbertDesfos...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 22, 3:40 pm, "Ron" <R...@tediumnet.com> wrote:
>
> > <hab...@anony.net> wrote in message
>
> >news:519d28a2....@news.giganews.com...
>
> > >1 Outlaw all incitement to kill especially by ethnic radio stations
> > > and jail them
>
> > > 2 Order a special prison for all brutal murderers where there would be
> > > no protection and no tax payers funds to be spent on feeding them. Let
> > > the charities or whoever wants to keep them alive pay the money for
> > > their food.
>
> > They and their apologists will cite Iraq and Afghanistan as justification.
> > We will be expected to forget that 9/11 and other acts of terrorism took
> > place before "Iraq" and "Afghanistan".
>
I'd like to hear someone in authority acknowledge that
> On May 22, 3:40 pm, "Ron" <R...@tediumnet.com> wrote:
>
> > <hab...@anony.net> wrote in message
>
> >news:519d28a2....@news.giganews.com...
>
> > >1 Outlaw all incitement to kill especially by ethnic radio stations
> > > and jail them
>
> > > 2 Order a special prison for all brutal murderers where there would be
> > > no protection and no tax payers funds to be spent on feeding them. Let
> > > the charities or whoever wants to keep them alive pay the money for
> > > their food.
>
> > They and their apologists will cite Iraq and Afghanistan as justification.
> > We will be expected to forget that 9/11 and other acts of terrorism took
> > place before "Iraq" and "Afghanistan".
>
worldwide
terrorism is a Jew-Muslim problem.
Tell it like it is.
May 22, 2013, 4:55:33 PM5/22/13
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On May 22, 3:54 pm, "Tell it like it is."
Tell it like it is.
May 22, 2013, 4:58:40 PM5/22/13
to
Especially when it is taking place in Christian majority
nations.
hab...@anony.net
May 22, 2013, 5:01:37 PM5/22/13
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Britain should outlaw all religious incitement and jail those who
fund them
photos and videos on
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22630303
Graphic footage from ITV News shows a man with bloodied hands making
political statements
Continue reading the main story
Related Stories
Latest - Woolwich attack Live
In pictures: Woolwich attack
Witness: 'He pulled a gun out' Watch
A man has been killed in a machete attack and two suspects shot by
police in Woolwich, south-east London.
Prime Minister David Cameron said there were "strong indications that
it is a terrorist incident" and the UK would "never buckle" in the
face of such attacks.
Footage has emerged showing a man wielding a bloodied meat cleaver and
making political statements.
There are unconfirmed reports that the dead man was a soldier.
Both French President Francois Hollande and MP Nick Raynsford said the
dead man had been a soldier at Woolwich barracks.
The footage shown on the ITV website shows a man, speaking to the
camera, saying: "We must fight them as they fight us. An eye for an
eye, a tooth for a tooth."
He added: "I apologise that women have had to witness this today, but
in our land our women have to see the same. You people will never be
safe. Remove your government, they don't care about you."
The incident took place before many witnesses
In developments since the attack, in John Wilson Street, the A205, at
14:20 BST:
Downing Street said Mr Cameron, who had been planning to stay in Paris
overnight after meeting the French president, would be returning to
the UK later on Wednesday
At a meeting of the government's emergency response committee, Cobra,
it was decided to tighten security at Woolwich and other barracks in
London
Both shot men were taken to hospital, one by air ambulance
One of the men is in a serious condition, the other is also being
treated for injuries
In a joint press conference, Mr Hollande said he wanted to express his
solidarity with the UK after the "murder of a British soldier", but Mr
Cameron did not confirm the victim had been a serviceman
The Ministry of Defence said it was urgently looking into reports the
incident had involved a soldier
Another Cobra meeting will be held on Thursday morning, chaired by Mr
Cameron
Home Secretary Theresa May said she had been briefed by the director
general of Security Service MI5, Andrew Parker, and Metropolitan
Police Commissioner Bernard Hogan-Howe on the "sickening and barbaric"
attack.
Mr Cameron said Britain had faced "these sort of attacks", adding: "We
will never buckle in the face of them.
"People across Britain, people in every community, I believe, will
utterly condemn this attack."
He expressed sympathy for the victim and his family, saying: "It is
the most appalling crime. We are obviously seeking, and the police are
urgently seeking, the full facts about this case."
One witness, identified only as James, said two men had attacked
another man, aged about 20, who was wearing a T-shirt of military
charity Help for Heroes.
"These two guys were crazed. They were just animals. They dragged him
from the pavement and dumped his body in the middle of the road and
left his body there," he told LBC radio.
He said after the "horrendous" attack, the two men, who were also in
their 20s, stood around, waving knives and a gun, and asked people to
take pictures of them "as if they wanted to be on TV or something".
Continue reading the main story
Analysis
Dominic Casciani
Home affairs correspondent
The case for this being a jihadist attack, following the ideology of
al-Qaeda, is compelling - even if the police won't yet say so
officially.
If it is, then it would be the first such incident leading to a death
of someone other than the perpetrator since the 2005 London suicide
bombings.
So the first task for ministers and officials is to assess the threat
to the public - are other attacks planned?
The official terrorism threat level is currently "substantial", which
means an attack is "a strong possibility".
If officials raise the level to "severe", that would mean they fear
another attack is highly likely.
If the victim is indeed a soldier, then that will be no surprise to
security chiefs.
Jihadists believe they are at war with the military because of its
role in the Afghanistan conflict and elsewhere.
The UK has previously uncovered three plots linked to possible terror
attacks on the armed forces, including a cell in 2007 which planned to
kidnap and behead a soldier in an Iraq-style hostage video.
Read more from Dominic
"They were oblivious to anything, they were more worried about having
their photo taken, running up and down the road," he said.
Witness Graham Wilders told the BBC he had arrived on the scene to
find a car crashed into a wall and a man on the ground.
"Two people were lying over him and I thought they were trying to
resuscitate him," he said.
But Mr Wilders said he had driven on to park his car, and when he had
returned another witness had told him the two men had been stabbing
the man on the ground.
Thomas, another witness who contacted the BBC, said: "I got there
minutes after it happened because you could hear gunshots from
Woolwich High Street.
"Basically two men carried out an axe attack on a young army cadet
walking along the street, by the looks of things the police responded
and then shot them in front of the public, at the same time I couldn't
really tell if the cadet was fatally or not hurt as police were
crowded around him."
According to senior Whitehall sources the people carrying out the
attack were heard to say: "Allahu Akbar [God is Great]", BBC political
editor Nick Robinson reported.
On Twitter, the Mayor of London Boris Johnson described the attack as
a "sickening deluded and unforgivable act of violence".
Buckingham Palace says the Queen is concerned at the news of the
attack and is being kept informed.
Help for Heroes said the charity was "appalled to hear that a man,
believed to be a serving soldier, has been brutally murdered in
Woolwich today".
The Muslim Council of Britain said in a statement: "This is a truly
barbaric act that has no basis in Islam and we condemn this
unreservedly. Our thoughts are with the victim and his family."
School lock-down
Mr Raynsford, the Woolwich and Greenwich MP, said he had spoken to
local police and understood a number of weapons had been seized at the
scene including a gun, knives, and a machete.
Metropolitan Police Commander Simon Letchford said two alleged
attackers had been shot by officers.
He said: "Police were called to reports of an assault... where one man
was being assaulted by two other men. A number of weapons were
reportedly being used in the attack, and this included reports of a
firearm.
"Officers including local Greenwich officers arrived at the scene, and
shortly after firearms officers arrived on the scene.
"On their arrival at the scene they found a man, who was later
pronounced dead.
Head teacher David Dixon describes seeing a body in the street and
hearing gunshots
"Two men, who we believe from early reports to have been carrying
weapons, were shot by police. They have both been taken to separate
London hospitals. They are receiving treatment for their injuries.
"I can understand that this incident will cause community concerns and
I would like to reiterate that we are investigating the
circumstances."
fund them
photos and videos on
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22630303
Graphic footage from ITV News shows a man with bloodied hands making
political statements
Continue reading the main story
Related Stories
Latest - Woolwich attack Live
In pictures: Woolwich attack
Witness: 'He pulled a gun out' Watch
A man has been killed in a machete attack and two suspects shot by
police in Woolwich, south-east London.
Prime Minister David Cameron said there were "strong indications that
it is a terrorist incident" and the UK would "never buckle" in the
face of such attacks.
Footage has emerged showing a man wielding a bloodied meat cleaver and
making political statements.
There are unconfirmed reports that the dead man was a soldier.
Both French President Francois Hollande and MP Nick Raynsford said the
dead man had been a soldier at Woolwich barracks.
The footage shown on the ITV website shows a man, speaking to the
camera, saying: "We must fight them as they fight us. An eye for an
eye, a tooth for a tooth."
He added: "I apologise that women have had to witness this today, but
in our land our women have to see the same. You people will never be
safe. Remove your government, they don't care about you."
The incident took place before many witnesses
In developments since the attack, in John Wilson Street, the A205, at
14:20 BST:
Downing Street said Mr Cameron, who had been planning to stay in Paris
overnight after meeting the French president, would be returning to
the UK later on Wednesday
At a meeting of the government's emergency response committee, Cobra,
it was decided to tighten security at Woolwich and other barracks in
London
Both shot men were taken to hospital, one by air ambulance
One of the men is in a serious condition, the other is also being
treated for injuries
In a joint press conference, Mr Hollande said he wanted to express his
solidarity with the UK after the "murder of a British soldier", but Mr
Cameron did not confirm the victim had been a serviceman
The Ministry of Defence said it was urgently looking into reports the
incident had involved a soldier
Another Cobra meeting will be held on Thursday morning, chaired by Mr
Cameron
Home Secretary Theresa May said she had been briefed by the director
general of Security Service MI5, Andrew Parker, and Metropolitan
Police Commissioner Bernard Hogan-Howe on the "sickening and barbaric"
attack.
Mr Cameron said Britain had faced "these sort of attacks", adding: "We
will never buckle in the face of them.
"People across Britain, people in every community, I believe, will
utterly condemn this attack."
He expressed sympathy for the victim and his family, saying: "It is
the most appalling crime. We are obviously seeking, and the police are
urgently seeking, the full facts about this case."
One witness, identified only as James, said two men had attacked
another man, aged about 20, who was wearing a T-shirt of military
charity Help for Heroes.
"These two guys were crazed. They were just animals. They dragged him
from the pavement and dumped his body in the middle of the road and
left his body there," he told LBC radio.
He said after the "horrendous" attack, the two men, who were also in
their 20s, stood around, waving knives and a gun, and asked people to
take pictures of them "as if they wanted to be on TV or something".
Continue reading the main story
Analysis
Dominic Casciani
Home affairs correspondent
The case for this being a jihadist attack, following the ideology of
al-Qaeda, is compelling - even if the police won't yet say so
officially.
If it is, then it would be the first such incident leading to a death
of someone other than the perpetrator since the 2005 London suicide
bombings.
So the first task for ministers and officials is to assess the threat
to the public - are other attacks planned?
The official terrorism threat level is currently "substantial", which
means an attack is "a strong possibility".
If officials raise the level to "severe", that would mean they fear
another attack is highly likely.
If the victim is indeed a soldier, then that will be no surprise to
security chiefs.
Jihadists believe they are at war with the military because of its
role in the Afghanistan conflict and elsewhere.
The UK has previously uncovered three plots linked to possible terror
attacks on the armed forces, including a cell in 2007 which planned to
kidnap and behead a soldier in an Iraq-style hostage video.
Read more from Dominic
"They were oblivious to anything, they were more worried about having
their photo taken, running up and down the road," he said.
Witness Graham Wilders told the BBC he had arrived on the scene to
find a car crashed into a wall and a man on the ground.
"Two people were lying over him and I thought they were trying to
resuscitate him," he said.
But Mr Wilders said he had driven on to park his car, and when he had
returned another witness had told him the two men had been stabbing
the man on the ground.
Thomas, another witness who contacted the BBC, said: "I got there
minutes after it happened because you could hear gunshots from
Woolwich High Street.
"Basically two men carried out an axe attack on a young army cadet
walking along the street, by the looks of things the police responded
and then shot them in front of the public, at the same time I couldn't
really tell if the cadet was fatally or not hurt as police were
crowded around him."
According to senior Whitehall sources the people carrying out the
attack were heard to say: "Allahu Akbar [God is Great]", BBC political
editor Nick Robinson reported.
On Twitter, the Mayor of London Boris Johnson described the attack as
a "sickening deluded and unforgivable act of violence".
Buckingham Palace says the Queen is concerned at the news of the
attack and is being kept informed.
Help for Heroes said the charity was "appalled to hear that a man,
believed to be a serving soldier, has been brutally murdered in
Woolwich today".
The Muslim Council of Britain said in a statement: "This is a truly
barbaric act that has no basis in Islam and we condemn this
unreservedly. Our thoughts are with the victim and his family."
School lock-down
Mr Raynsford, the Woolwich and Greenwich MP, said he had spoken to
local police and understood a number of weapons had been seized at the
scene including a gun, knives, and a machete.
Metropolitan Police Commander Simon Letchford said two alleged
attackers had been shot by officers.
He said: "Police were called to reports of an assault... where one man
was being assaulted by two other men. A number of weapons were
reportedly being used in the attack, and this included reports of a
firearm.
"Officers including local Greenwich officers arrived at the scene, and
shortly after firearms officers arrived on the scene.
"On their arrival at the scene they found a man, who was later
pronounced dead.
Head teacher David Dixon describes seeing a body in the street and
hearing gunshots
"Two men, who we believe from early reports to have been carrying
weapons, were shot by police. They have both been taken to separate
London hospitals. They are receiving treatment for their injuries.
"I can understand that this incident will cause community concerns and
I would like to reiterate that we are investigating the
circumstances."
Big Les Wade
May 22, 2013, 4:55:46 PM5/22/13
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Ron <R...@tediumnet.com> posted
and that the attacks on Britain did not happen until *after* Britain had
attacked Afghanistan and Iraq.
--
Les
>
>They and their apologists will cite Iraq and Afghanistan as
>justification. We will be expected to forget that 9/11 and other acts
>of terrorism took place before "Iraq" and "Afghanistan".
But we will remember that 9/11 was an attack on America, not Britain;
>They and their apologists will cite Iraq and Afghanistan as
>justification. We will be expected to forget that 9/11 and other acts
>of terrorism took place before "Iraq" and "Afghanistan".
and that the attacks on Britain did not happen until *after* Britain had
attacked Afghanistan and Iraq.
--
Les
hab...@anony.net
May 22, 2013, 5:11:18 PM5/22/13
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The fact that the Tory govt is cutting police numbers and
legal funds drastically means there may be many more such terrorist
attacks.
legal funds drastically means there may be many more such terrorist
attacks.
Tell it like it is.
May 22, 2013, 5:13:16 PM5/22/13
to
to the subversive plot to take down the World Trade center in New York
City, an act which affected the entire world's economy, not justify an
invasion of al queda's hold-out in Afghanistan?
Zapp Brannigan
May 22, 2013, 6:17:14 PM5/22/13
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"Tell it like it is." <DanielAlbe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5486c618-096b-496c...@s18g2000yqg.googlegroups.com...
> Does America's and Britain's response
> to the subversive plot to take down the World Trade center in New York
> City, an act which affected the entire world's economy, not justify an
> invasion of al queda's hold-out in Afghanistan?
And the subsequent invasion of Iraq was even more recklessly stupid.
AlanG
May 23, 2013, 3:26:37 AM5/23/13
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On Wed, 22 May 2013 21:55:46 +0100, Big Les Wade <L...@nowhere.com>
wrote:
And the attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq took place even though the
terrorists of the 11 Sept attacks were all Saudis and the Saudi
fundamentalists are the ones propagating this islamic rekigious hatred
of others.
wrote:
terrorists of the 11 Sept attacks were all Saudis and the Saudi
fundamentalists are the ones propagating this islamic rekigious hatred
of others.
AlanG
May 23, 2013, 3:27:18 AM5/23/13
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The Todal
May 23, 2013, 3:58:15 AM5/23/13
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On 22/5/13 21:35, hab...@anony.net wrote:
> 1 Outlaw all incitement to kill especially by ethnic radio stations
> and jail them
The video of the terrorist with blood on his hands arguing that it was
> 1 Outlaw all incitement to kill especially by ethnic radio stations
> and jail them
revenge for what he had done to his land, was broadcast on the BBC and
Sky. Gaol everyone at the BBC and Sky. They are deliberately publishing
terrorist videos.
>
> 2 Order a special prison for all brutal murderers where there would be
> no protection and no tax payers funds to be spent on feeding them. Let
> the charities or whoever wants to keep them alive pay the money for
> their food.
>
The Todal
May 23, 2013, 4:03:20 AM5/23/13
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suspected terrorists together with any innocent civilians standing
nearby, have cause many innocent casualties in Pakistan and Afghanistan.
The attacks continue, and the UK supplies its own drones to help.
hab...@anony.net
May 23, 2013, 5:08:39 AM5/23/13
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The fault is that of the British govt for tolerating Jihadi
preachings in religious places and on ethnic radio stations , in one
the preacher said five times in five minutes that the Prophet ordered
the houses of those who dont attend Friday prayers to be burnt down
preachings in religious places and on ethnic radio stations , in one
the preacher said five times in five minutes that the Prophet ordered
the houses of those who dont attend Friday prayers to be burnt down
Death To Terrorists
May 23, 2013, 7:47:26 AM5/23/13
to
On Thu, 23 May 2013 09:03:20 +0100, The Todal <deadm...@beeb.net> wrote:
>Let's not forget the drone strikes. Obamas unmanned drones, killing
>suspected terrorists together with any innocent civilians standing
>nearby, have cause many innocent casualties in Pakistan and Afghanistan.
>The attacks continue, and the UK supplies its own drones to help.
And long may it continue. Just change the warheads to nukes. Drive all
>Let's not forget the drone strikes. Obamas unmanned drones, killing
>suspected terrorists together with any innocent civilians standing
>nearby, have cause many innocent casualties in Pakistan and Afghanistan.
>The attacks continue, and the UK supplies its own drones to help.
religious fuckers, regardless of who their pretend person is, back to the stone
age.
--
pEranbu
May 23, 2013, 8:06:57 AM5/23/13
to
all opinions are watched. Is there any way to post on google
anonymously?
Big Les Wade
May 23, 2013, 8:15:02 AM5/23/13
to
pEranbu <tripur...@yahoo.com> posted
machine. Fly now before it is too late.
--
Les
>This is brutal and very sad. We must discuss this more openly. But now
>all opinions are watched. Is there any way to post on google
>anonymously?
Too late now. We know who you are. We have installed a webcam in your
>all opinions are watched. Is there any way to post on google
>anonymously?
machine. Fly now before it is too late.
--
Les
Cynic
May 23, 2013, 11:21:45 AM5/23/13
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On Wed, 22 May 2013 20:35:37 GMT, hab...@anony.net wrote:
>1 Outlaw all incitement to kill especially by ethnic radio stations
>and jail them
ISTM that our politicians have incited people to kill on many
>1 Outlaw all incitement to kill especially by ethnic radio stations
>and jail them
occasions. Or doesn't the killing of other races in their own
countries count?
--
Cynic
Cynic
May 23, 2013, 11:23:54 AM5/23/13
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On Wed, 22 May 2013 21:40:49 +0100, "Ron" <R...@tediumnet.com> wrote:
>They and their apologists will cite Iraq and Afghanistan as justification.
With very good reason.
>They and their apologists will cite Iraq and Afghanistan as justification.
>We will be expected to forget that 9/11 and other acts of terrorism took
>place before "Iraq" and "Afghanistan".
in retailliation for the US occupation in Saudi.
I do not see that you are at all justified in your belief that "They
started it first".
--
Cynic
Cynic
May 23, 2013, 11:25:07 AM5/23/13
to
> Does America's and Britain's response
>to the subversive plot to take down the World Trade center in New York
>City, an act which affected the entire world's economy, not justify an
>invasion of al queda's hold-out in Afghanistan?
No, because the attack on the WTC came from Saudi, not Afghanistan.
>to the subversive plot to take down the World Trade center in New York
>City, an act which affected the entire world's economy, not justify an
>invasion of al queda's hold-out in Afghanistan?
--
Cynic
pensive hamster
May 23, 2013, 11:57:06 AM5/23/13
to
On May 23, 12:47 pm, Death To Terrorists <hangthefuck...@home.com>
wrote:
I've never been keen on their music. And Cliff Richard?
wrote:
> On Thu, 23 May 2013 09:03:20 +0100, The Todal <deadmail...@beeb.net> wrote:
> >Let's not forget the drone strikes. Obamas unmanned drones, killing
> >suspected terrorists together with any innocent civilians standing
> >nearby, have cause many innocent casualties in Pakistan and Afghanistan.
> >The attacks continue, and the UK supplies its own drones to help.
>
> And long may it continue. Just change the warheads to nukes. Drive all
> religious fuckers, regardless of who their pretend person is, back to the stone
> age.
>
Your 'religious fuckers' category, would that include The Osmonds?
> >Let's not forget the drone strikes. Obamas unmanned drones, killing
> >suspected terrorists together with any innocent civilians standing
> >nearby, have cause many innocent casualties in Pakistan and Afghanistan.
> >The attacks continue, and the UK supplies its own drones to help.
>
> And long may it continue. Just change the warheads to nukes. Drive all
> religious fuckers, regardless of who their pretend person is, back to the stone
> age.
>
I've never been keen on their music. And Cliff Richard?
pensive hamster
May 23, 2013, 12:06:49 PM5/23/13
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/may/23/woolwich-attack-british-foreign-policy-role
'Woolwich attack: of course British foreign policy had a role
'While nothing can justify the killing of a British soldier, the link
to Britain's vicious occupations abroad cannot be ignored
'I am a former soldier. I completed one tour of duty in Afghanistan,
refused on legal and moral grounds to serve a second tour, and spent
five months in a military prison as a result. When the news about the
attack in Woolwich broke, by pure coincidence Ross Caputi was crashing
on my sofa. Ross is a soft-spoken ex-US marine turned film-maker who
served in Iraq and witnessed the pillaging and irradiation of Falluja.
He is also a native of Boston, the scene of a recent homegrown terror
attack. Together, we watched the news, and right away we were certain
that what we were seeing was informed by the misguided military
adventures in which we had taken part. ...'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/may/23/woolwich-attack-terrorism-blowback
Glenn Greenwald
'Was the London killing of a British soldier 'terrorism'?
'What definition of the term includes this horrific act of violence
but excludes the acts of the US, the UK and its allies? ...'
The Todal
May 23, 2013, 12:29:14 PM5/23/13
to
in any sense a representative of the government of Afghanistan. The USA
should have applied to extradite him from Afghanistan. But Dubya was
impatient. Not for him a slow progression through the courts. He wanted
to kick some ass, and slaughter or mutilate thousands of people. Many of
whom were US troops, as it turned out.
Still, Tony Blair reckons that Dubya is far more intelligent and wise
than he has been made out to be by the media. Tony kisses ass like
nobody else can.
The Todal
May 23, 2013, 12:31:26 PM5/23/13
to
the Woolwich attack was brought up as a devout Christian and then
converted to Islam.
I think the solution is clear. Nuke the Christians before they convert.
That old lady who does the flowers in the parish church may be carrying
a bomb in her underwear. Drown her in the font.
Ross Vicksell
May 23, 2013, 12:42:36 PM5/23/13
to
In article <b06uer...@mid.individual.net>,
The Todal <deadm...@beeb.net> wrote:
> And if Osama bin Laden was responsible for the 9/11 attacks he was not
> in any sense a representative of the government of Afghanistan. The USA
> should have applied to extradite him from Afghanistan.
The USA did just that, you stupid bastard.
> And if Osama bin Laden was responsible for the 9/11 attacks he was not
> in any sense a representative of the government of Afghanistan. The USA
> should have applied to extradite him from Afghanistan.
The Todal
May 23, 2013, 12:45:22 PM5/23/13
to
Cynic
May 23, 2013, 12:51:47 PM5/23/13
to
On Thu, 23 May 2013 16:42:36 +0000 (UTC), Ross Vicksell
<Ross-V...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>> And if Osama bin Laden was responsible for the 9/11 attacks he was not
>> in any sense a representative of the government of Afghanistan. The USA
>> should have applied to extradite him from Afghanistan.
>The USA did just that, you stupid bastard.
It most certainly did not - I recall the arguments being made at the
<Ross-V...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>> And if Osama bin Laden was responsible for the 9/11 attacks he was not
>> in any sense a representative of the government of Afghanistan. The USA
>> should have applied to extradite him from Afghanistan.
>The USA did just that, you stupid bastard.
time, you whimpering imbecile.
You are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your
own facts.
In any case it is highly unlikely that Afghanistan had the power to
capture and extridite him even if they had been asked and wanted to do
so.
--
Cynic
Ross Vicksell
May 23, 2013, 1:11:12 PM5/23/13
to
In article <b06vd2...@mid.individual.net>,
"U.S. President George W. Bush demanded that the Taliban hand over bin Laden and
al-Qaeda leadership which was supporting the Taliban in its war with the Northern
Alliance. The Taliban recommended that bin Laden leave the country but declined to
extradite him"
The Todal <deadm...@beeb.net> wrote:
>>> And if Osama bin Laden was responsible for the 9/11 attacks he was not
>>> in any sense a representative of the government of Afghanistan. The USA
>>> should have applied to extradite him from Afghanistan.
>> The USA did just that, you stupid bastard.
> No it didn't.
Yes it did, you stupid piece of shit:
>>> And if Osama bin Laden was responsible for the 9/11 attacks he was not
>>> in any sense a representative of the government of Afghanistan. The USA
>>> should have applied to extradite him from Afghanistan.
>> The USA did just that, you stupid bastard.
> No it didn't.
"U.S. President George W. Bush demanded that the Taliban hand over bin Laden and
al-Qaeda leadership which was supporting the Taliban in its war with the Northern
Alliance. The Taliban recommended that bin Laden leave the country but declined to
extradite him"
Ross Vicksell
May 23, 2013, 1:14:28 PM5/23/13
to
In article <519e4886...@127.0.0.1>, Cynic <cyni...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Thu, 23 May 2013 16:42:36 +0000 (UTC), Ross Vicksell
> <Ross-V...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>>> And if Osama bin Laden was responsible for the 9/11 attacks he was not
>>> in any sense a representative of the government of Afghanistan. The USA
>>> should have applied to extradite him from Afghanistan.
>> The USA did just that, you stupid bastard.
> It most certainly did not -
It most certainly did:
> On Thu, 23 May 2013 16:42:36 +0000 (UTC), Ross Vicksell
> <Ross-V...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>>> And if Osama bin Laden was responsible for the 9/11 attacks he was not
>>> in any sense a representative of the government of Afghanistan. The USA
>>> should have applied to extradite him from Afghanistan.
>> The USA did just that, you stupid bastard.
> It most certainly did not -
"U.S. President George W. Bush demanded that the Taliban hand over bin Laden and
al-Qaeda leadership which was supporting the Taliban in its war with the Northern
Alliance. The Taliban recommended that bin Laden leave the country but declined to
extradite him"
> I recall the arguments being made at the time, you whimpering imbecile.
You recall jack shit, you stupid POS.
The Todal
May 23, 2013, 1:25:49 PM5/23/13
to
fuckwitted as you appear.
An extradition request does not consist of Mr President demanding that a
country hand over a person immediately. It consists of an application
to a court of law supported by evidence.
On 20th September 2001 the US demanded that Afghanistan deliver all the
leaders of al Qaeda. The Taliban said it would consider any properly
presented extradition request. The USA ignored that reasonable request.
Bombing began on 7th October 2001.
It may be that you are too ignorant to understand the concept of an
extradition request. But the President and his advisors must have done.
Of course, Bush was never one to pay much respect to due process and the
rule of law, which is why he favoured extraordinary rendition of
terrorist suspects. Kidnapping them and flying them to places such as
Syria to be tortured.
Now get back to your crayons. I can see I've already lost you.
Ross Vicksell
May 23, 2013, 1:46:10 PM5/23/13
to
In article <b071ot...@mid.individual.net>,
> The Taliban said it would consider any properly presented
> extradition request.
With the goal of dragging matters for years. Look, dumb bastard:
this was not the ordinary case of a criminal fleeing justice. This
was someone who started a war against the US. And as for the Taliban,
well, we all know what a lovely bunch of guys they are, don't we?
> The USA ignored that reasonable request.
"reasonable" in the pig's arse.
> Bombing began on 7th October 2001.
Tough shit, ain't it? Complain to Mullah Omar or whatever that
animal calls himself.
The Todal <deadm...@beeb.net> wrote:
> On 20th September 2001 the US demanded that Afghanistan deliver
> all the leaders of al Qaeda.
So you lied.
> On 20th September 2001 the US demanded that Afghanistan deliver
> all the leaders of al Qaeda.
> The Taliban said it would consider any properly presented
> extradition request.
this was not the ordinary case of a criminal fleeing justice. This
was someone who started a war against the US. And as for the Taliban,
well, we all know what a lovely bunch of guys they are, don't we?
> The USA ignored that reasonable request.
> Bombing began on 7th October 2001.
animal calls himself.
Cynic
May 23, 2013, 1:58:57 PM5/23/13
to
On Thu, 23 May 2013 17:14:28 +0000 (UTC), Ross Vicksell
quoted.
A presidential demand is as similar to an extridition application as
an armed robbery is to a request for payment. The Afghan government
refused to give in to an unlawful demand, but they did say that they
would consider any lawful extridition request if made via the normal
judicial channels - such a requests would have to include evidence
that the person whose extridition has been requested has in fact
committed a crime for a pretty obvious reason.
Bush refused to follow the law, but instead of making any legal
applications he ordered a military attack which was undoubtedly
illegal by NATO standards. he relied entirely on the fact that no
country would be willing to try to stop him.
--
Cynic
<Ross-V...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>>>> And if Osama bin Laden was responsible for the 9/11 attacks he was not
>>>> in any sense a representative of the government of Afghanistan. The USA
>>>> should have applied to extradite him from Afghanistan.
>>> The USA did just that, you stupid bastard.
>> It most certainly did not -
>It most certainly did:
>"U.S. President George W. Bush demanded that the Taliban hand over bin Laden and
>al-Qaeda leadership which was supporting the Taliban in its war with the Northern
>Alliance. The Taliban recommended that bin Laden leave the country but declined to
>extradite him"
>> I recall the arguments being made at the time, you whimpering imbecile.
>You recall jack shit, you stupid POS.
No. my memory is accurate. You appear not to understand what you have
>>>> And if Osama bin Laden was responsible for the 9/11 attacks he was not
>>>> in any sense a representative of the government of Afghanistan. The USA
>>>> should have applied to extradite him from Afghanistan.
>>> The USA did just that, you stupid bastard.
>> It most certainly did not -
>It most certainly did:
>"U.S. President George W. Bush demanded that the Taliban hand over bin Laden and
>al-Qaeda leadership which was supporting the Taliban in its war with the Northern
>Alliance. The Taliban recommended that bin Laden leave the country but declined to
>extradite him"
>> I recall the arguments being made at the time, you whimpering imbecile.
>You recall jack shit, you stupid POS.
quoted.
A presidential demand is as similar to an extridition application as
an armed robbery is to a request for payment. The Afghan government
refused to give in to an unlawful demand, but they did say that they
would consider any lawful extridition request if made via the normal
judicial channels - such a requests would have to include evidence
that the person whose extridition has been requested has in fact
committed a crime for a pretty obvious reason.
Bush refused to follow the law, but instead of making any legal
applications he ordered a military attack which was undoubtedly
illegal by NATO standards. he relied entirely on the fact that no
country would be willing to try to stop him.
--
Cynic
James P
May 23, 2013, 3:06:37 PM5/23/13
to
Death To Terrorists
May 23, 2013, 5:32:28 PM5/23/13
to
Canterbury.
--
Death To Terrorists
May 23, 2013, 5:33:13 PM5/23/13
to
On Thu, 23 May 2013 15:23:54 GMT, cyni...@yahoo.co.uk (Cynic) wrote:
>On Wed, 22 May 2013 21:40:49 +0100, "Ron" <R...@tediumnet.com> wrote:
>
>>They and their apologists will cite Iraq and Afghanistan as justification.
>
>With very good reason.
>
>>We will be expected to forget that 9/11 and other acts of terrorism took
>>place before "Iraq" and "Afghanistan".
>
>The only terrorism in the UK before Iraq was from Ireland.
You are incorrect. Read up on the events in Wales and North West England
>On Wed, 22 May 2013 21:40:49 +0100, "Ron" <R...@tediumnet.com> wrote:
>
>>They and their apologists will cite Iraq and Afghanistan as justification.
>
>With very good reason.
>
>>We will be expected to forget that 9/11 and other acts of terrorism took
>>place before "Iraq" and "Afghanistan".
>
>The only terrorism in the UK before Iraq was from Ireland.
(Helsby 8 miles or so from Chester) in the 1960's
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mudiad_Amddiffyn_Cymru
In the 1980's the Jocks were at it too. Letter bombs to Thatcher and Lady Di
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_National_Liberation_Army
--
nusratr...@gmail.com
May 24, 2013, 2:22:38 AM5/24/13
to
On Wed, 22 May 2013 21:55:46 +0100, Big Les Wade <L...@nowhere.com>
wrote:
>Ron <R...@tediumnet.com> posted
>>
wrote:
>Ron <R...@tediumnet.com> posted
>>
>>They and their apologists will cite Iraq and Afghanistan as
>>justification. We will be expected to forget that 9/11 and other acts
>>of terrorism took place before "Iraq" and "Afghanistan".
>
>
>But we will remember that 9/11 was an attack on America, not Britain;
>and that the attacks on Britain did not happen until *after* Britain had
>attacked Afghanistan and Iraq.
You couldn't be more wrong, Mohammed had already declared war on all
>and that the attacks on Britain did not happen until *after* Britain had
>attacked Afghanistan and Iraq.
infidels 1400 years ago. (these are folks who questions Mohammed's
claims of his being the true and the last messenger from Allah) and
stated in his book, those killed fighting on his behalf will proceed
directly to paradise to be entertained by 72 virgins for ever.
Jon Ribbens
May 24, 2013, 6:28:11 AM5/24/13
to
On 2013-05-23, Ross Vicksell <Ross-V...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> In article <b071ot...@mid.individual.net>,
> The Todal <deadm...@beeb.net> wrote:
>> On 20th September 2001 the US demanded that Afghanistan deliver
>> all the leaders of al Qaeda.
>
> So you lied.
You might want to learn English before trying to set yourself up as
> In article <b071ot...@mid.individual.net>,
> The Todal <deadm...@beeb.net> wrote:
>> On 20th September 2001 the US demanded that Afghanistan deliver
>> all the leaders of al Qaeda.
>
> So you lied.
an arbiter of the truth.
Ross Vicksell
May 24, 2013, 8:34:40 AM5/24/13
to
In article <slrnkpugdl.h...@snowy.squish.net>,
Sigh. Listen, stupid bastard. The guy claimed that Bush attacked
before asking for Ben-Laden's extradition. He lied.
One can only hope that a decent percentage of the Brits are not
of the low-life, sniveling, cowardly type which seems to be
quite prevalent on this group. Otherwise, you're doomed.
before asking for Ben-Laden's extradition. He lied.
One can only hope that a decent percentage of the Brits are not
of the low-life, sniveling, cowardly type which seems to be
quite prevalent on this group. Otherwise, you're doomed.
Cynic
May 24, 2013, 9:24:44 AM5/24/13
to
On Thu, 23 May 2013 20:06:37 +0100, James P <jimmy...@ornage.net>
wrote:
>>> "U.S. President George W. Bush demanded that the Taliban hand over bin Laden and
>>> al-Qaeda leadership which was supporting the Taliban in its war with the Northern
>>> Alliance. The Taliban recommended that bin Laden leave the country but declined to
>>> extradite him"
>>>> I recall the arguments being made at the time, you whimpering imbecile.
>>> You recall jack shit, you stupid POS.
>> No. my memory is accurate. You appear not to understand what you have
>> quoted.
>> A presidential demand is as similar to an extridition application as
>> an armed robbery is to a request for payment. The Afghan government
>> refused to give in to an unlawful demand, but they did say that they
>> would consider any lawful extridition request if made via the normal
>> judicial channels - such a requests would have to include evidence
>> that the person whose extridition has been requested has in fact
>> committed a crime for a pretty obvious reason.
>> Bush refused to follow the law, but instead of making any legal
>> applications he ordered a military attack which was undoubtedly
>> illegal by NATO standards. he relied entirely on the fact that no
>> country would be willing to try to stop him.
>Which of course makes Bush guilty of murder amongst other things.
Yes. Blair as well IMO.
Had Saddam done exactly the same thing to the US or the UK, as they
did to Iraq, and for similar reasons, you can be 100% certain that he
would be treated as being a criminal.
--
Cynic
wrote:
>>> "U.S. President George W. Bush demanded that the Taliban hand over bin Laden and
>>> al-Qaeda leadership which was supporting the Taliban in its war with the Northern
>>> Alliance. The Taliban recommended that bin Laden leave the country but declined to
>>> extradite him"
>>>> I recall the arguments being made at the time, you whimpering imbecile.
>>> You recall jack shit, you stupid POS.
>> No. my memory is accurate. You appear not to understand what you have
>> quoted.
>> A presidential demand is as similar to an extridition application as
>> an armed robbery is to a request for payment. The Afghan government
>> refused to give in to an unlawful demand, but they did say that they
>> would consider any lawful extridition request if made via the normal
>> judicial channels - such a requests would have to include evidence
>> that the person whose extridition has been requested has in fact
>> committed a crime for a pretty obvious reason.
>> Bush refused to follow the law, but instead of making any legal
>> applications he ordered a military attack which was undoubtedly
>> illegal by NATO standards. he relied entirely on the fact that no
>> country would be willing to try to stop him.
>Which of course makes Bush guilty of murder amongst other things.
Had Saddam done exactly the same thing to the US or the UK, as they
did to Iraq, and for similar reasons, you can be 100% certain that he
would be treated as being a criminal.
--
Cynic
Jon Ribbens
May 24, 2013, 10:43:04 AM5/24/13
to
On 2013-05-24, Ross Vicksell <Ross-V...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> In article <slrnkpugdl.h...@snowy.squish.net>,
> Jon Ribbens <jon+u...@unequivocal.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 2013-05-23, Ross Vicksell <Ross-V...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>>>> On 20th September 2001 the US demanded that Afghanistan deliver
>>>> all the leaders of al Qaeda.
>
>>> So you lied.
>
>> You might want to learn English before trying to set yourself up as
>> an arbiter of the truth.
>
> Sigh. Listen, stupid bastard. The guy claimed that Bush attacked
> before asking for Ben-Laden's extradition. He lied.
Or, yes, if you like I suppose you could just continue wallowing in
> In article <slrnkpugdl.h...@snowy.squish.net>,
> Jon Ribbens <jon+u...@unequivocal.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 2013-05-23, Ross Vicksell <Ross-V...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>>>> On 20th September 2001 the US demanded that Afghanistan deliver
>>>> all the leaders of al Qaeda.
>
>>> So you lied.
>
>> You might want to learn English before trying to set yourself up as
>> an arbiter of the truth.
>
> Sigh. Listen, stupid bastard. The guy claimed that Bush attacked
> before asking for Ben-Laden's extradition. He lied.
your own stupidity whilst spewing mindless abuse. It's probably easier
than actually, y'know, thinking.
The Todal
May 24, 2013, 10:50:17 AM5/24/13
to
On 24/5/13 13:34, Ross Vicksell wrote:
> In article <slrnkpugdl.h...@snowy.squish.net>,
> Jon Ribbens <jon+u...@unequivocal.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 2013-05-23, Ross Vicksell <Ross-V...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>
>>>> On 20th September 2001 the US demanded that Afghanistan deliver
>>>> all the leaders of al Qaeda.
>
>>> So you lied.
>
>> You might want to learn English before trying to set yourself up as
>> an arbiter of the truth.
>
> Sigh. Listen, stupid bastard. The guy claimed that Bush attacked
> before asking for Ben-Laden's extradition. He lied.
Once again, for the lamebrain with fetal alcohol syndrome at the back of
> In article <slrnkpugdl.h...@snowy.squish.net>,
> Jon Ribbens <jon+u...@unequivocal.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 2013-05-23, Ross Vicksell <Ross-V...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>
>>>> On 20th September 2001 the US demanded that Afghanistan deliver
>>>> all the leaders of al Qaeda.
>
>>> So you lied.
>
>> You might want to learn English before trying to set yourself up as
>> an arbiter of the truth.
>
> Sigh. Listen, stupid bastard. The guy claimed that Bush attacked
> before asking for Ben-Laden's extradition. He lied.
the class (that's you): an application for extradition does not consist
of the President "demanding" that a country hand over a person to the
USA. It consists of an application to a court of law.
Write it out a hundred times or I'll cut your balls off.
Ross Vicksell
May 24, 2013, 1:16:18 PM5/24/13
to
In article <b09d1a...@mid.individual.net>,
to muzzies for half-a-quid (that's you): it was an extradition
request, and considering the crime and the circumstances, it
was perfectly justifiable and reasonable.
> Write it out a hundred times or I'll cut your balls off.
Your mouth opens nearly as wide as your mother's, when she, ahem,
entertains six Nigerians simultaneously.
The Todal <deadm...@beeb.net> wrote:
>> Sigh. Listen, stupid bastard. The guy claimed that Bush attacked
>> before asking for Ben-Laden's extradition. He lied.
> Once again, for the lamebrain with fetal alcohol syndrome at the back of
> the class (that's you): an application for extradition does not consist
> of the President "demanding" that a country hand over a person to the
> USA. It consists of an application to a court of law.
Once again, for the shiteating cockroach who pimps his mother
>> Sigh. Listen, stupid bastard. The guy claimed that Bush attacked
>> before asking for Ben-Laden's extradition. He lied.
> Once again, for the lamebrain with fetal alcohol syndrome at the back of
> the class (that's you): an application for extradition does not consist
> of the President "demanding" that a country hand over a person to the
> USA. It consists of an application to a court of law.
to muzzies for half-a-quid (that's you): it was an extradition
request, and considering the crime and the circumstances, it
was perfectly justifiable and reasonable.
> Write it out a hundred times or I'll cut your balls off.
entertains six Nigerians simultaneously.
hab...@anony.net
May 24, 2013, 8:19:08 PM5/24/13
to
The fault is that of the British govt for tolerating Jihadi
preachings in religious places and on ethnic radio stations , in one
the preacher said five times in five minutes that the Prophet ordered
the houses of those who dont attend Friday prayers to be burnt down
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/woolwich-attack-watch-shocking-video-1907772
This is the moment two terrorists who butchered soldier Lee Rigby also
tried to kill a hero woman cop who was first on the scene of the
carnage.
Shocking footage obtained by the Daily Mirror shows how the
calculating pair lured officers to the scene by dragging the body into
the middle of the road and brazenly waiting for armed police to
arrive.
When the first police car arrived the pair split up in a pre-planned
manoeuvre with knife-wielding Michael Adebolajo charging them head-on,
while his accomplice ran up alongside, aiming his revolver at them.
The film of the 10 seconds of terror show how Adebolajo got within TWO
FEET of the terrified female cop who was driving the armed response
vehicle.
She was armed with just a Taser as she sat in the driver�s seat of the
BMW X5 and was only saved when a male colleague sitting in the back
made a split-second decision to fire his machine-gun from point blank
range through the window.
As he is sent sprawling to the ground by the force of the two shots
and the two cops jump out to cover him they appear to fail to spot the
other suspect aiming his hand gun at them.
Luckily a third SO19 marksman running round from the far side of the
specialist Trojan unit spots him and he is brought to the ground as a
further volley of six shots ring out in the suburban street in
Woolwich, south east London.
Former Det Ch Ins Peter Kirkham, an expert in firearms tactics said
after watching the footage today: � I have never seen anything like
this before, or even heard of it happening before.
"For two suspects to carry out a brutal attack like this then stand
around in plain sight waiting for the police is crazy.
�The instant the spot the police car come round the corner they are on
it straight away. The first one is sprinting full speed towards the
cops before they have even got out the car.
"The female officer only has her Taser out and must have been
terrified. They had no option but to open fire to stop them.�
The dramatic climax to the horrific attack was filmed by a resident in
a tower block over looking the scene in Artillery Road and captures
the moment the terrorist charges the officers in a suspected
death-by-cop suicide bid.
The footage reveals how, after beheading the soldier, they hatched a
plot to ambush and murder the first police officers to come to his
aid.
For eight minutes in the film before the armed police arrive the
suspects can be seen talking to passers-by and three women who are
trying to help the victim.
They made no attempt to try and harm them.
But as soon they see the patrol car turn the corner they spring into
action in a pre-meditated attack, carefully designed to give the
gunman time to target the officers.
The birds-eye 15 minute 50 second long footage, obtained exclusively
by the Daily Mirror, was filmed from 100ft up a tower block, which
overlooks the scene on Artillery Place at the corner of Rectory Place.
Calls started flooding in to the police at 2.20pm yesterday and
Scotland Yard said it was assigned to a armed response unit four
minutes later, who arrived on the scene ten minutes after that.
The filming opens shortly after the suspects have picked up the body
and dumped it in the road and can then be seen talking to those
filming them and the brave women trying to tend to their victims.
A couple of minutes into the footage a lone ambulance drives slowly up
the street towards the butchered victim and looks like it is going to
stop.
But when they spot the two armed suspects standing nearby they have no
option but to swerve round his body and keep going.
Suddenly eight minutes and 21 seconds into the footage the men sprint
into action when the police BMW X5 comes round the corner and skids to
a halt 25 feet away.
Instantly the knife and cleaver wielding suspect, wearing a charcoal
hooded top and black woolly hat, runs head-long towards the driver�s
side of the marked silver patrol car.
He can be seen dropping one of his blades and moving the other into
his right hand as he rushes wildly at the vehicle.
preachings in religious places and on ethnic radio stations , in one
the preacher said five times in five minutes that the Prophet ordered
the houses of those who dont attend Friday prayers to be burnt down
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/woolwich-attack-watch-shocking-video-1907772
This is the moment two terrorists who butchered soldier Lee Rigby also
tried to kill a hero woman cop who was first on the scene of the
carnage.
Shocking footage obtained by the Daily Mirror shows how the
calculating pair lured officers to the scene by dragging the body into
the middle of the road and brazenly waiting for armed police to
arrive.
When the first police car arrived the pair split up in a pre-planned
manoeuvre with knife-wielding Michael Adebolajo charging them head-on,
while his accomplice ran up alongside, aiming his revolver at them.
The film of the 10 seconds of terror show how Adebolajo got within TWO
FEET of the terrified female cop who was driving the armed response
vehicle.
She was armed with just a Taser as she sat in the driver�s seat of the
BMW X5 and was only saved when a male colleague sitting in the back
made a split-second decision to fire his machine-gun from point blank
range through the window.
As he is sent sprawling to the ground by the force of the two shots
and the two cops jump out to cover him they appear to fail to spot the
other suspect aiming his hand gun at them.
Luckily a third SO19 marksman running round from the far side of the
specialist Trojan unit spots him and he is brought to the ground as a
further volley of six shots ring out in the suburban street in
Woolwich, south east London.
Former Det Ch Ins Peter Kirkham, an expert in firearms tactics said
after watching the footage today: � I have never seen anything like
this before, or even heard of it happening before.
"For two suspects to carry out a brutal attack like this then stand
around in plain sight waiting for the police is crazy.
�The instant the spot the police car come round the corner they are on
it straight away. The first one is sprinting full speed towards the
cops before they have even got out the car.
"The female officer only has her Taser out and must have been
terrified. They had no option but to open fire to stop them.�
The dramatic climax to the horrific attack was filmed by a resident in
a tower block over looking the scene in Artillery Road and captures
the moment the terrorist charges the officers in a suspected
death-by-cop suicide bid.
The footage reveals how, after beheading the soldier, they hatched a
plot to ambush and murder the first police officers to come to his
aid.
For eight minutes in the film before the armed police arrive the
suspects can be seen talking to passers-by and three women who are
trying to help the victim.
They made no attempt to try and harm them.
But as soon they see the patrol car turn the corner they spring into
action in a pre-meditated attack, carefully designed to give the
gunman time to target the officers.
The birds-eye 15 minute 50 second long footage, obtained exclusively
by the Daily Mirror, was filmed from 100ft up a tower block, which
overlooks the scene on Artillery Place at the corner of Rectory Place.
Calls started flooding in to the police at 2.20pm yesterday and
Scotland Yard said it was assigned to a armed response unit four
minutes later, who arrived on the scene ten minutes after that.
The filming opens shortly after the suspects have picked up the body
and dumped it in the road and can then be seen talking to those
filming them and the brave women trying to tend to their victims.
A couple of minutes into the footage a lone ambulance drives slowly up
the street towards the butchered victim and looks like it is going to
stop.
But when they spot the two armed suspects standing nearby they have no
option but to swerve round his body and keep going.
Suddenly eight minutes and 21 seconds into the footage the men sprint
into action when the police BMW X5 comes round the corner and skids to
a halt 25 feet away.
Instantly the knife and cleaver wielding suspect, wearing a charcoal
hooded top and black woolly hat, runs head-long towards the driver�s
side of the marked silver patrol car.
He can be seen dropping one of his blades and moving the other into
his right hand as he rushes wildly at the vehicle.
Zapp Brannigan
May 24, 2013, 8:40:21 PM5/24/13
to
"Ross Vicksell" <Ross-V...@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:kno792$qhi$1...@pcls6.std.com...
> In article <b09d1a...@mid.individual.net>,
> The Todal <deadm...@beeb.net> wrote:
>
>>> Sigh. Listen, stupid bastard. The guy claimed that Bush attacked
>>> before asking for Ben-Laden's extradition. He lied.
>
>> Once again, for the lamebrain with fetal alcohol syndrome at the back of
>> the class (that's you): an application for extradition does not consist
>> of the President "demanding" that a country hand over a person to the
>> USA. It consists of an application to a court of law.
>
> Once again, for the shiteating cockroach who pimps his mother
> to muzzies for half-a-quid (that's you): it was an extradition
> request, and considering the crime and the circumstances, it
> was perfectly justifiable and reasonable.
No, it wasn't an extradition request and it wasn't justifiable or
> The Todal <deadm...@beeb.net> wrote:
>
>>> Sigh. Listen, stupid bastard. The guy claimed that Bush attacked
>>> before asking for Ben-Laden's extradition. He lied.
>
>> Once again, for the lamebrain with fetal alcohol syndrome at the back of
>> the class (that's you): an application for extradition does not consist
>> of the President "demanding" that a country hand over a person to the
>> USA. It consists of an application to a court of law.
>
> Once again, for the shiteating cockroach who pimps his mother
> to muzzies for half-a-quid (that's you): it was an extradition
> request, and considering the crime and the circumstances, it
> was perfectly justifiable and reasonable.
reasonable. It was a belligerent threat to hand him over 'or else'.
Bush didn't have the sense or integrity to work within international law,
even though the world was unusually sympathetic to the USA after 9/11. The
bullying fool decided to send an army. Resulting in 5,000 dead & 42,000
wounded US troops, and over 100,000 civilian casualties.
Justifiable and reasonable, my arse.
Zapp Brannigan
May 24, 2013, 8:41:37 PM5/24/13
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The Todal
May 25, 2013, 6:30:42 AM5/25/13
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parents divorce? How awful for you.
I hope one day you manage to get an education, but that must be your
responsibility and not mine.
Steve Firth
May 25, 2013, 10:19:59 AM5/25/13
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<hab...@anony.net> wrote:
> The fault is that of the British govt for tolerating Jihadi
> preachings in religious places and on ethnic radio stations , in one
> the preacher said five times in five minutes that the Prophet ordered
> the houses of those who dont attend Friday prayers to be burnt down
I'm amused that people like you are so keen to promote the British way of
> The fault is that of the British govt for tolerating Jihadi
> preachings in religious places and on ethnic radio stations , in one
> the preacher said five times in five minutes that the Prophet ordered
> the houses of those who dont attend Friday prayers to be burnt down
life that you seek to abolish two foundations of the British way of life,
tolerance and freedom of speech.
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<•DarWin><|
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Ross Vicksell
May 25, 2013, 2:47:51 PM5/25/13
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In article <knp11s$np4$1...@dont-email.me>,
1) Extent and nature of the crime
2) The nature of the criminal
3) The nature of the barbarians who were harboring the criminal
If people like you would have ruled Britain during WW2, London
would be called Hitlerburg. One can imagine you demanding to
extradite Goering. Nuts, old boy, you're just nuts.
Zapp Brannigan <ZBr...@DOOP.com> wrote:
> No, it wasn't an extradition request and it wasn't justifiable or
> reasonable. It was a belligerent threat to hand him over 'or else'.
Which was perfectly justifiable and reasonable, considering the:
> No, it wasn't an extradition request and it wasn't justifiable or
> reasonable. It was a belligerent threat to hand him over 'or else'.
1) Extent and nature of the crime
2) The nature of the criminal
3) The nature of the barbarians who were harboring the criminal
If people like you would have ruled Britain during WW2, London
would be called Hitlerburg. One can imagine you demanding to
extradite Goering. Nuts, old boy, you're just nuts.
Ross Vicksell
May 25, 2013, 2:49:31 PM5/25/13
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In article <b0bi6i...@mid.individual.net>,
The Todal <deadm...@beeb.net> wrote:
> How eloquently
You started, old boy.
The Todal <deadm...@beeb.net> wrote:
> How eloquently
You started, old boy.
jamesl...@gmail.com
May 25, 2013, 8:12:10 PM5/25/13
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On Wednesday, 22 May 2013 21:35:37 UTC+1, hab...@anony.net wrote:
> 1 Outlaw all incitement to kill especially by ethnic radio stations
>
> and jail them
>
>
>
> 2 Order a special prison for all brutal murderers where there would be
>
> no protection and no tax payers funds to be spent on feeding them. Let
>
> the charities or whoever wants to keep them alive pay the money for
>
> their food.
Don't let our loyal Government pull the wool over your eyes - it's just what they do to us all the time.
The British have been committing brutal murders for centuries. We are historical invaders, oppressors, dictators, be-headers (Henry 8th for one), money addicts, liars, corrupt, bullies, ignorant, stupid and poorly educated. Ask anyone around the world, and they will probably agree with this opinion. Along with the Americans we have murdered more people in the world than any other force. Poverty kills more people than terrorism, so does cancer, American civilians with guns, British murderers with knives, the list is endless. Yet, we ignore these real 'terrors' and choose to make enemies around the world by trying to force them to surrender their oil or comply with our extreme views and poor value system based on the monetary system (keeping the rich as rich as possible) and labelling anyone who isn't compliant with British thinking as a 'terrorist' or antisocial etc. Unfortunately our soldiers feel passionate about protecting our weak nation, but they just end up as victims in wars that never end, never come to any conclusion, and cost a fortune in money and lives. As long as there is hate in this country, we will be hated by others and this situation will escalate. Already children riot here, as they feel like outcasts in this outdated, old fashioned dictatorship we call Great Britain. Please wise up to it, as you mean nothing to this country, none of us do.
> 1 Outlaw all incitement to kill especially by ethnic radio stations
>
> and jail them
>
>
>
> 2 Order a special prison for all brutal murderers where there would be
>
> no protection and no tax payers funds to be spent on feeding them. Let
>
> the charities or whoever wants to keep them alive pay the money for
>
> their food.
Don't let our loyal Government pull the wool over your eyes - it's just what they do to us all the time.
The British have been committing brutal murders for centuries. We are historical invaders, oppressors, dictators, be-headers (Henry 8th for one), money addicts, liars, corrupt, bullies, ignorant, stupid and poorly educated. Ask anyone around the world, and they will probably agree with this opinion. Along with the Americans we have murdered more people in the world than any other force. Poverty kills more people than terrorism, so does cancer, American civilians with guns, British murderers with knives, the list is endless. Yet, we ignore these real 'terrors' and choose to make enemies around the world by trying to force them to surrender their oil or comply with our extreme views and poor value system based on the monetary system (keeping the rich as rich as possible) and labelling anyone who isn't compliant with British thinking as a 'terrorist' or antisocial etc. Unfortunately our soldiers feel passionate about protecting our weak nation, but they just end up as victims in wars that never end, never come to any conclusion, and cost a fortune in money and lives. As long as there is hate in this country, we will be hated by others and this situation will escalate. Already children riot here, as they feel like outcasts in this outdated, old fashioned dictatorship we call Great Britain. Please wise up to it, as you mean nothing to this country, none of us do.
Cynic
May 28, 2013, 9:26:15 AM5/28/13
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On Sat, 25 May 2013 18:47:51 +0000 (UTC), Ross Vicksell
<Ross-V...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>> No, it wasn't an extradition request and it wasn't justifiable or
>> reasonable. It was a belligerent threat to hand him over 'or else'.
>
>Which was perfectly justifiable and reasonable, considering the:
>
>1) Extent and nature of the crime
>2) The nature of the criminal
>3) The nature of the barbarians who were harboring the criminal
I could use those same reasons to demand extridition for *you*. If no
<Ross-V...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>> No, it wasn't an extradition request and it wasn't justifiable or
>> reasonable. It was a belligerent threat to hand him over 'or else'.
>
>Which was perfectly justifiable and reasonable, considering the:
>
>1) Extent and nature of the crime
>2) The nature of the criminal
>3) The nature of the barbarians who were harboring the criminal
proof whatsoever is required, I can say what I like.
--
Cynic
nusratr...@gmail.com
May 30, 2013, 5:54:42 AM5/30/13
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On Thu, 23 May 2013 15:23:54 GMT, cyni...@yahoo.co.uk (Cynic) wrote:
>On Wed, 22 May 2013 21:40:49 +0100, "Ron" <R...@tediumnet.com> wrote:
>
>On Wed, 22 May 2013 21:40:49 +0100, "Ron" <R...@tediumnet.com> wrote:
>
>>They and their apologists will cite Iraq and Afghanistan as justification.
>
>With very good reason.
>
>
>>We will be expected to forget that 9/11 and other acts of terrorism took
>>place before "Iraq" and "Afghanistan".
>
>The only terrorism in the UK before Iraq was from Ireland. 9/11 was
>>We will be expected to forget that 9/11 and other acts of terrorism took
>>place before "Iraq" and "Afghanistan".
>
>in retailliation for the US occupation in Saudi.
I read nothing about US occupation of Saudi Arabia, care to share your
sources. Do you mind telling me when did the occupation take place and
who ordered it?
BTW, Muslims have been angry with the infidels, Jews and Christians
who refuse to believe Mohammed's exaggerated claims of prophet hood
and miracles. They have been fighting both the Jews and Christians
since their inception in the late 7th century.
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