Ghareeb kee joro, sabh kee bhabhee ( urdu)
syed
Urdu does not belong to Pakistan only: Manmohan
Indo-Asian News Service
October 30
Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on Saturday said it was a national
responsibility to promote the Urdu language, a living example of
India's composite culture as it helped protect the country's unity.
At a function at his 7, Race Course Road residence to launch the
e-paper of the Hyderabad-based Siasat daily, Manmohan Singh exhorted
Indians to preserve their eternal values so that there was no threat
to the nation's unity and integrity.
"We have many problems in this country," the prime minister said in
Urdu, a language he said he had grown up with, having been born in a
village now in Pakistan.
"Sometimes one feels overwhelmed (by these problems). But we should
forge ahead with courage."
To press the point, Manmohan Singh recited two Urdu couplets that drew
much appreciation from the audience.
According to him, it was wrong to think that Urdu was only Pakistan's
language and belonged to Pakistan. "I learnt Urdu in Lahore. My father
wrote to me in that language, and when I go through my old letters, I
find all of them in Urdu."
He described the language as a "living example of the mixed heritage
of India," which had a 5000-year-old civilisation.
"We have to nurture, protect and promote the language. It is our
national responsibility. Our government is bound by the national
common minimum programme to promote Urdu and we will abide by the
pledge."
Gulshan Khan
>
>
>
>Urdu does not belong to Pakistan only: Manmohan
About time Sonias chaparasi also realize that its not just lingo but
his faith and genes are also a gift of sulla... Better late then
never.
koolfire_or
it's about time yu realised,nothing is yours,the land yu live,the
devdasi who produced you,the language you speak.....its 50% hindu..if
not for the hindu devdasis,pakistan and you will not exist.
Romanise
May be Yusuf B Gursey has the answer.
Pakis are all alike, Syed, thooko and the rest of them.
Has Manmohan Singh said anything derogatory about Urdu?
Did Urdu originate in what is now Pakistan?
BTW 'joro' and 'sabh' may be Punjabi but not Urdu.
syed <50...@highstream.net> wrote
syed
On 31 Oct 2004 08:28:00-0800, dmj...@lycos.co.uk (Romanise) wrote:
>What is sulla and what is it in "Ghareeb kee joro, sabh kee bhabhee"?
Why should I teach a senile Hindu who does not know one of his own
national language.
>May be Yusuf B Gursey has the answer.
He may be a nice man who doesn't know how big Muslim hater you are.
Please don't hurt or rob him.
>Pakis are all alike, Syed, thooko and the rest of them.
And why not ,we all sit on the same tree and speak our minds. Just
like you , koolfire, south Indian, Neil Kashmieri, Bushthekiller etc
etc
>Has Manmohan Singh said anything derogatory about Urdu?
No Manmohan Singh seems to be a nice gentle guy not crook like
Advani, vaajpie, Bal Thackery, Modi etc . He loves Urdu and should be
admired, though urdu is not his mother tongue like you. But you are a
Muslim hater who despise everything Muslim, no matter how good that
may be.
>Did Urdu originate in what is now Pakistan?
No it was originated in Delhi, Lukhnow and Agra but Pakistan
especially Lahore has tremendous contributions to Urdu , specially
after 1857 when the Muslim education center shifted to Lahore from
Delhi and other N. Indian cities.
>BTW 'joro' and 'sabh' may be Punjabi but not Urdu.
Again your knowledge of Urdu is pathetic, though it is true 40-50%
Hindi in some form is amalgamated in Urdu.
Ok let me help you relieve your mental pains. "joro" or somtimes
caled "Joroo" is used for wife. "Sabh" mean all and "Bhabhee" means
brother's wife. Ghareeb you should know if not I have to spank you
real bad first. Ok Ok cyber Danda is not yet invented , so you will
escape spanking this time it means "poor" which obviously you are
not.
See how generous we muslaas are especially in the month of Ramadan.
Now you connect the dots and vouch for meanings of what I wrote or
come back and request for more help.
You have to be a bit more polite and lot more civil to get more of
me.
Ok grand paa
thoku123
hare om baba hare om
"koolfire_or" <rohit_...@lycos.com> wrote in message news:<1099205619.2...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>...
Gulshan Khan
>kooly gharib kee juro, hum sub(khan,syed,seeker,thoku) ke dassi!
>
>hare om baba hare om
>
hahahahahahahahahahaha heheheheeh this close the case for good.
hare om baba hare om....
Romanise
Did he call anybody's 'joroo' 'bhaabhee'?
> >Did Urdu originate in what is now Pakistan?
>
> No it was originated in Delhi, Lukhnow and Agra but Pakistan
> especially Lahore has tremendous contributions to Urdu , specially
> after 1857 when the Muslim education center shifted to Lahore from
> Delhi and other N. Indian cities.
What institute was there in Delhi before 1857 that was overshadowed by
a subsequent institute in Lahoe?
> "joro" or somtimes
> caled "Joroo" is used for wife. "Sabh" mean all
Quote from some standard writer who has used 'joro' for 'joroo' and
'sabh' for 'sab'
thoku123
How many times have I told you pujaree Romanize boy that am gentelman
Dalit
proudly belonging to the lowest 4th race of great Indian racial
categorization
as ennunciated by your great great grand brahimini bastard ancestors
and handed down generation by generation as holy vedic order till this
day?
Did you have early morning over dose of "som boti" (hash) in your
mandir before hallucinating as if key board is stuck in your arse?
sala sootiya
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syed
Forgive me dear Romanise , I can't teach nothing to a senile like you
on British welfare. At this age , you just pray for a better brain
next time around( as you believe in re-incarnation).
You can't get it.Anyway my last try to penetrate your empty skull,
what this proverb
"ghreeb kee joro, sabh kee bhabhee" means is this
just like a poor man's wife is everyone's "Bhabhee", same goes for
Urdu, it is a language loved by every sane person in India and
Pakistan . Unlike you type Banyaas who know nothing but ?????,
Adios
Romanise
> "ghreeb kee joro, sabh kee bhabhee" means is this
It is called muhavaraa and you dont know how to use it.
BTW Premchand was one Banyaa who pioneererd prose in Urdu.
For you it will be better if you stick to your Punjabi.
rizv...@optonline.net
Don't you love it when these half Sikhs anoint themselves experts on
Urdu, a language they can barely pronounce.
Wish they would stick with their mother tongue of Gormukhi and stop
abusing us Mohajirs and our Urdu.
Romanise
> Urdu, a language they can barely pronounce.
> Wish they would stick with their mother tongue of Gormukhi and stop
> abusing us Mohajirs and our Urdu.
They will certainly achieve something for their progeny if they stuck
with Punjabi, if not in Gurumukhi let it be Shahmukhi, but Roman can
take them long way. Prof Agha once reported that Roman is tried for
Sindhi.
Syed can devote his life now on for that cause.
Romanise
> Dalit
A Bhagi in love with Pakis?
syed
Instead of being ashamed of your utter ignorance of Urdu ABC, you
coimng up with these dumb attacks in colaboration with this proven
SCP senile is laughable.
Thanks to this Punjabi, now know what a "Joroo" is and what a
"Bhabhee" is in Urdu. You should thank me if you have some civility.
thoku123
na. just to thok the pujaree from purbander!
dmj...@lycos.co.uk (Romanise) wrote in message news:<dcef526a.04110...@posting.google.com>...
rizv...@optonline.net
>>"rizv...@optonline.net" <rizv...@optonline.net> wrote
>>> Don't you love it when these half Sikhs anoint themselves experts on
>>> Urdu, a language they can barely pronounce.
>>> Wish they would stick with their mother tongue of Gormukhi and stop
>>> abusing us Mohajirs and our Urdu.
>>
>>They will certainly achieve something for their progeny if they stuck
>>with Punjabi, if not in Gurumukhi let it be Shahmukhi, but Roman can
>>take them long way. Prof Agha once reported that Roman is tried for
>>Sindhi.
>>Syed can devote his life now on for that cause.
>
>Instead of being ashamed of your utter ignorance of Urdu ABC, you
>coimng up with these dumb attacks in colaboration with this proven
>SCP senile is laughable.
Like all half Sikhs your claim of wisdom is far too laughable for
comment. Your other idol Ikbaal was also more ridiculed when he sent
his manuscript to Nobel Institute for consideration. The Swedes it
seems were somewhat reluctant to share their prizes with known
murderers who wasn't very bright but who would have known that in Paki
Punjab.
koolfire_or
Romanise wrote:
> thok...@my-deja.com (thoku123) wrote
> > How many times have I told you pujaree Romanize boy that am
gentelman
> > Dalit
some time back you were claiming,your daughter and wife are
cultured,and they are professionals....the only we discovered in
prostitution.
you a gentelman and a dalit claim...from above family circumstances,can
be consided to mean a pimp...gemtelman in the sense,you dont bargain
over yur commission,and completly flexible....dalit is a cover for
legal protection.
Romanise
> > > How many times have I told you pujaree Romanize boy that am gentelman
> > > Dalit
> >> dmj...@lycos.co.uk (Romanise) wrote
> > A Bhagi in love with Pakis?
>thok...@my-deja.com (thoku123) wrote
> na. just to thok the pujaree from purbander!
Looks your Paki lovers are distancing from you since you claimed to be
a proud Bhangi from South India. Looks they prefer to thok a Dalit. Is
it because the word is not from Urdu but is from Sanskrit?
Romanise
> coimng up with these dumb attacks in colaboration with this proven
> SCP senile is laughable.
Readers know how much intelligence you have when your brain went numb
on questions I raised as follows.
===========
Date: 2004-10-31 22:24:36 PST
syed <50...@highstream.net> wrote
> No Manmohan Singh seems to be a nice gentle guy
Did he call anybody's 'joroo' 'bhaabhee'?
> >Did Urdu originate in what is now Pakistan?
>
> No it was originated in Delhi, Lukhnow and Agra but Pakistan
> especially Lahore has tremendous contributions to Urdu , specially
> after 1857 when the Muslim education center shifted to Lahore from
> Delhi and other N. Indian cities.
What institute was there in Delhi before 1857 that was overshadowed by
a subsequent institute in Lahoe?
> "joro" or somtimes
> caled "Joroo" is used for wife. "Sabh" mean all
Quote from some standard writer who has used 'joro' for 'joroo' and
'sabh' for 'sab'
=================
> Thanks to this Punjabi, now know what a "Joroo" is and what a
> "Bhabhee" is in Urdu. You should thank me if you have some civility.
It was neither 'joro' nor 'bhabhee' but 'joroo' and 'bhaabhee' at
least in Urdu, and neither is a sulla(whatever it may mean) heritage.
syed
>syed <50...@highstream.net> wrote
>> Instead of being ashamed of your utter ignorance of Urdu ABC, you
>> coimng up with these dumb attacks in colaboration with this proven
>> SCP senile is laughable.
>
>Readers know how much intelligence you have when your brain went numb
>on questions I raised as follows.
My O my let's see what your very intelligent Q's are, which are still
cramping your tummy for an answer.
>
>syed <50...@highstream.net> wrote
>> No Manmohan Singh seems to be a nice gentle guy
1st Dumb Q ,
>Did he call anybody's 'joroo' 'bhaabhee'?
If You never knew what this proverb (muhaavraa) means, you would never
ever has asked this utterly stupid literal question . The true
meaning of this was that Urdu is/was popular public language. And
everyone loved it, Urdu speaking, Punjabi, Pathan ( Faiz and Faraz for
example) but you come up with "did he call anyone bhabhee" type
extremely stupid question.
2nd Dumb Q
>
>> >Did Urdu originate in what is now Pakistan?
>>
>> No it was originated in Delhi, Lukhnow and Agra but Pakistan
>> especially Lahore has tremendous contributions to Urdu , specially
>> after 1857 when the Muslim education center shifted to Lahore from
>> Delhi and other N. Indian cities.
3rd Dumb Q
>What institute was there in Delhi before 1857 that was overshadowed by
>a subsequent institute in Lahoe?
Oh my God, I can't win a senile on British welfare check.. Please
read some history book and learn what I meant. it was not ONE specific
institute, college, Uni, or Urdu school I was talking about ( this
dumbo has a habit of taking everything literally) , what I said the
center of Urdu education, poetry, culture shifted to Lahore. Romi
you are too much for me, how could I make you leave me alone from
your dumb Q's.
>
>
>> "joro" or somtimes
>> caled "Joroo" is used for wife. "Sabh" mean all
>
>Quote from some standard writer who has used 'joro' for 'joroo' and
>'sabh' for 'sab'
>=================
>
>> Thanks to this Punjabi, now know what a "Joroo" is and what a
>> "Bhabhee" is in Urdu. You should thank me if you have some civility.
>
>It was neither 'joro' nor 'bhabhee' but 'joroo' and 'bhaabhee' at
>least in Urdu, and neither is a sulla(whatever it may mean) heritage.
it may be "jarooooooooo" and Bhaaaaaaaaabheeee in your Gujarat but
who gives a damn how you speak your Urdu . And be careful gujarat has
lots of flies and mosquitos, which can intrude in your mouth when you
open your mouth too much for saying "Bhaaaaaa" and grinded when you
will say "bheeee"
Romi forgive me as I can never win an argument a senile on British
welfare. .
rizv...@optonline.net
It takes this half Sikh a week to come back with his usual nonsense,
your own fault for releasing his father far too soon from Indian jail.
Did you observe how this pimps go around labeling his opponents
welfare chiselers and old geezers all the while using public libraries
to post his idiocies.
thoku123
circumstances,can
be consided to mean a pimp...gemtelman in the sense,you dont bargain
over yur commission,and completly flexible....dalit is a cover for
legal protection.""
kooly! you talk like an accomplished pimp hustling around gerrard
street! is this your spare time hobby to suppliment dole income?
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koolfire_or
thoku123 wrote:
> "" you a gentelman and a dalit claim...from above family
> circumstances,can
> be consided to mean a pimp...gemtelman in the sense,you dont bargain
> over yur commission,and completly flexible....dalit is a cover for
> legal protection.""
>
>
> kooly! you talk like an accomplished pimp hustling around gerrard
> street! is this your spare time hobby to suppliment dole income?
machod thoti,the chances of me knowing gerrad street,is akin to you
claiming,to canadian trucker's,your wife and daughter,are desendents
from the house of windsor......fucking idiot show some signs,however
vague,that you can possesses a brain.
Romanise
> ever has asked this utterly stupid literal question . The true
> meaning of this was that Urdu is/was popular public language. And
> everyone loved it, Urdu speaking, Punjabi, Pathan ( Faiz and Faraz for
> example) but you come up with "did he call anyone bhabhee" type
> extremely stupid question.
Your interpretation of muhaavaraa fits with Mr Rizvi's reoprts on
serving Ranjit Singh's sikh soldiers. Anywhere else even a ghareeb kee
joroo will allow nobody to adress her a bhaabhee.
> >What institute was there in Delhi before 1857 that was overshadowed by
> >a subsequent institute in Lahoe?
>
> Oh my God, I can't win a senile on British welfare check.. Please
> read some history book and learn what I meant. it was not ONE specific
> institute, college, Uni, or Urdu school I was talking about ( this
> dumbo has a habit of taking everything literally) , what I said the
> center of Urdu education, poetry, culture shifted to Lahore. Romi
> you are too much for me, how could I make you leave me alone from
> your dumb Q's.
You even dont know how hinvi/rekhta of Galib became Urdu. Have you
ever heard of Aligadh and Sir Syed?
> >> "joro" or somtimes
> >> caled "Joroo" is used for wife. "Sabh" mean all
> >
> >Quote from some standard writer who has used 'joro' for 'joroo' and
> >'sabh' for 'sab'
You are still unable to respond to this one.
> it may be "jarooooooooo" and Bhaaaaaaaaabheeee in your Gujarat but
> who gives a damn how you speak your Urdu .
In trying to show off your rudiments of Urdu you seem to have
forgotten your Punjabi it looks.
> Romi forgive me as I can never win an argument a senile on British
> welfare. .
If you begin to acknowledge your Jat roots may be your children will
have some chance.
syed
syed
>
>Your interpretation of muhaavaraa fits with Mr Rizvi's reoprts on
>serving Ranjit Singh's sikh soldiers.
You and Rizvi may be two long lost brothers in 1947, you both seem to
share lots of traits like eternal or say peternal stupidity.
> Anywhere else even a ghareeb kee
>joroo will allow nobody to adress her a bhaabhee.
May I ask why, bhabhee as I know is not a bad word or relation.
>> >What institute was there in Delhi before 1857 that was overshadowed by
>> >a subsequent institute in Lahoe?
>>
>> Oh my God, I can't win a senile on British welfare check.. Please
>> read some history book and learn what I meant. it was not ONE specific
>> institute, college, Uni, or Urdu school I was talking about ( this
>> dumbo has a habit of taking everything literally) , what I said the
>> center of Urdu education, poetry, culture shifted to Lahore. Romi
>> you are too much for me, how could I make you leave me alone from
>> your dumb Q's.
>
>You even dont know how hinvi/rekhta of Galib became Urdu. Have you
>ever heard of Aligadh and Sir Syed?
No who was this Sir Syed??? What a moron , instead of accepting his
ignorance and politly asking the meanings of the proverb, he is now
trying to be a smart A??. We have a name for you type in pakistan
called "khasees budhaa" Ask your brother Rizvi Daas what it means
>> >> "joro" or somtimes
>> >> caled "Joroo" is used for wife. "Sabh" mean all
>> >
>> >Quote from some standard writer who has used 'joro' for 'joroo' and
>> >'sabh' for 'sab'
Dumbo read the above again, i wrote it is used both ways just like
you Hindus write "Aligadh" and we Muslim write "Aligarh" though it
means the same.
>You are still unable to respond to this one.
Sorry cant respond to all your stupid queries.
>
>
>> it may be "jarooooooooo" and Bhaaaaaaaaabheeee in your Gujarat but
>> who gives a damn how you speak your Urdu .
>
>In trying to show off your rudiments of Urdu you seem to have
>forgotten your Punjabi it looks.
I enjoy what little I know and have no desire to impress upon you
type seniles with anything.
>
>> Romi forgive me as I can never win an argument a senile on British
>> welfare. .
>
>If you begin to acknowledge your Jat roots
Pakistanis like me don't give a hoot to this Hindu curse called cast ,
we enjoy all good people, may they be Jats, Sheikhs, Gujjars, memons,
Sunnis, Shias, Hindus, Christians or Jews. My criteria is good
people and I am proud to have few Hindus in that list too but they are
nice, highly educated and very productive ones unlike you type grouchy
"Budhaas" on British dole.
> may be your children will
>have some chance.
Thank God they are doing just fine and progressing well in life.
Someday I may share that but not now and specially with seniles like
you. As you may come out with a Q like why you write him Ali and not
Aaalii or Aili type stupidities.
Namastaiy
syed
>On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 20:43:59 -0500, syed <50...@highstream.net> wrote:
>
>It takes this half Sikh a week to come back with his usual nonsense,
Forgive me senile, i have to work for living unlike you living on your
wife's pay check. Plus I don’t think it mandatory to answer all dumb
Q's of your senile Gujarati brother.
>your own fault for releasing his father far too soon from Indian jail.
>Did you observe how this pimps go around labeling his opponents
>welfare chiselers and old geezers all the while using public libraries
>to post his idiocies.
Public Libraries, I wish I have time to even get some books out. I
have not even once used public library computer. I wish I have time to
visit library more often to get some good books to read.
rizv...@optonline.net
>On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 10:38:57 GMT, "rizv...@optonline.net"
><rizv...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 20:43:59 -0500, syed <50...@highstream.net> wrote:
>>
>>It takes this half Sikh a week to come back with his usual nonsense,
>
>Forgive me senile, i have to work for living unlike you living on your
>wife's pay check. Plus I don’t think it mandatory to answer all dumb
>Q's of your senile Gujarati brother.
Work for a living?
I can imagine since sisters are getting older and clients scarcer
>>your own fault for releasing his father far too soon from Indian jail.
>>Did you observe how this pimps go around labeling his opponents
>>welfare chiselers and old geezers all the while using public libraries
>>to post his idiocies.
>
>Public Libraries, I wish I have time to even get some books out. I
>have not even once used public library computer. I wish I have time to
>visit library more often to get some good books to read.
I do believe you, public library becoming a luxury since cab fares
have not been raised in many years and prize of gas has gone thru the
roof. Also since sisters don't being in the change they use to, life
must really be hell for your kind.
Romanise
> It takes this half Sikh a week to come back with his usual nonsense,
> your own fault for releasing his father far too soon from Indian jail.
> Did you observe how this pimps go around labeling his opponents
> welfare chiselers and old geezers all the while using public libraries
> to post his idiocies.
What a pity that relatively well offs having poor command on Urdu
ignore the language thir mothers and grandmothers spoke.
Affluent Pakistanis' love for foreign languages Urdu, Arabic, English
must have contributed to the country sliding into dark ages.
Gulshan Khan
>On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 10:38:57 GMT, "rizv...@optonline.net"
><rizv...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 20:43:59 -0500, syed <50...@highstream.net> wrote:
>>
>>It takes this half Sikh a week to come back with his usual nonsense,
>
>Forgive me senile, i have to work for living unlike you living on your
>wife's pay check. Plus I don’t think it mandatory to answer all dumb
>Q's of your senile Gujarati brother.
Good luck trying to reason with a retard and his cronies....The retard
gloss over Ghaznas efforts to validate the well known Ghaznvid effect,
a big disaster but more about that later.
God knows what makes half Ghaznvid genes such an authority on every
thing or is pimping as a side business to a chaparasi too dull...
Rest assured the half ghaznvid genes will claim to be an authority on
Urdu too(Lord have mercy)...
How you wished these freaks stayed with Sanskrit but when Ghaznvid
genes kick in the nation of pimps and whores suddenly claim every
sulla marvel from their language to their faith as one of their own.
Nothing unusual about that...
Romanise
> > Anywhere else even a ghareeb kee
> >joroo will allow nobody to adress her a bhaabhee.
> May I ask why, bhabhee as I know is not a bad word or relation.
Through that word well offs attempt to get in bed with gareeb kee
joroo.
> >You even dont know how hinvi/rekhta of Galib became Urdu. Have you
> >ever heard of Aligadh and Sir Syed?
>
> No who was this Sir Syed???
Clearly you are no genuine Syed. Looks you never heard of Aligadh
Muslim University.
> What a moron , instead of accepting his
> ignorance and politly asking the meanings of the proverb,
You have exposed yourself thoroughly of your ignorance of Urdu. You
try to cling to it just like you would cling to Jinnah curse on
muslims of subcontinent.
> >> >> "joro" or somtimes
> >> >> caled "Joroo" is used for wife. "Sabh" mean all
> >> >
> >> >Quote from some standard writer who has used 'joro' for 'joroo' and
> >> >'sabh' for 'sab'
>
> Dumbo read the above again, i wrote it is used both ways just like
> you Hindus write "Aligadh" and we Muslim write "Aligarh" though it
> means the same.
So joro, sabh are muslim Urdu words?
syed
>syed <50...@highstream.net> wrote
>
>> > Anywhere else even a ghareeb kee
>> >joroo will allow nobody to adress her a bhaabhee.
>
>> May I ask why, bhabhee as I know is not a bad word or relation.
>
>Through that word well offs attempt to get in bed with gareeb kee
>joroo.
may be in your elite Gujarati culture but not in Muslim households.
This is a respectful word used very respectfully for a brother's
wife.
>> >You even dont know how hinvi/rekhta of Galib became Urdu. Have you
>> >ever heard of Aligadh and Sir Syed?
>>
>> No who was this Sir Syed???
>
>Clearly you are no genuine Syed. Looks you never heard of Aligadh
>Muslim University.
No I am not, do you really think I never knew "Sir Syed Ahmed Khan"
who motivated Muslim of India to study English and science. Dumbest of
dumb only if you knew what sarcasm is. I better stop responding to
your dumb posts before ??????
>> What a moron , instead of accepting his
>> ignorance and politly asking the meanings of the proverb,
>
>You have exposed yourself thoroughly of your ignorance of Urdu. You
>try to cling to it just like you would cling to Jinnah curse on
>muslims of subcontinent.
Yes I like Urdu and Jinaah who gave us some breathing room to stay
away from people like you. Thank God and Jinnah for that.
>> >> >> "joro" or somtimes
>> >> >> caled "Joroo" is used for wife. "Sabh" mean all
>> >> >
>> >> >Quote from some standard writer who has used 'joro' for 'joroo' and
>> >> >'sabh' for 'sab'
>>
>> Dumbo read the above again, i wrote it is used both ways just like
>> you Hindus write "Aligadh" and we Muslim write "Aligarh" though it
>> means the same.
>
>So joro, sabh are muslim Urdu words?
No these are in fact Chinese, if you any problem with that, please
call Chinese embassy's cultural attaché pronto. Talk about absolutely
pure moron as I found one.
Romanise
> This is a respectful word used very respectfully for a brother's
> wife.
Write to some well liked woman_Urdu_teachers in Pakistan and tell them
they ideally fit muhaavaraa 'gareeb kee joroo sub kee bhaabhee'
> No I am not, do you really think I never knew "Sir Syed Ahmed Khan"
> who motivated Muslim of India to study English and science.
He was the person who rekhta/hindvi Urdu.
I suppose it was in Lahore that he worked.
Still you have not been able to quote any established writer of Urdu
who writes joro,sabh in place of joroo/sab. For these too subsequently
get help from Pakistan.
thoku123
your joru's enterprizing spirit is very famous!! good lad!
"koolfire_or" <rohit_...@lycos.com> wrote in message news:<1099570164.0...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>...
koolfire_or
thoku123 wrote:
> ..i saw sign there that said "kooly's cunt enjoy all you can for
$1.99".
> your joru's enterprizing spirit is very famous!! good lad!
bosudike,thats your own house machod thoti,ask yur daughter and
wife....the way i have been fucking you,you seem to be seeing my
apparition in yur wifes hole also hehehehe,get out of this fright....i
seem to be haunting you.
Romanise
syed <50...@highstream.net>
pasting Dr Man Mohan Singh's good words for Urdu.
Somehow the title of the thread confused me so I raised few questions.
The poster responded by claiming that the muhaavaraa(or should it be
kahaavat)aptly translates the Pakistani custom of a married respected
woman appreciating herself being addressed as 'bhaabhee' by every male
other than her husband.
Could this be true?
Are joro, sabh Urdu words?
rizv...@optonline.net
You half Sikhs have elevated this dumb faggot to deity and for a good
reason. Before Jinnah's unnatural act of splitting India most Muslim
Punjabis made a living through Hira Mandi. Under Jinnah's
rule all Punjabis opted to become soldiers. We soon saw result of
Punjabi domination. In East Pakistan the soldiers of Punjab reverted
back to their natural role of Pimps and surrendered without fight but
in West Pakiland the army of Pimps still acts tough and with American
supplied weapons has little difficulty in keeping the restless
population in check.
syed
>This thread was started by
>
>syed <50...@highstream.net>
>
>pasting Dr Man Mohan Singh's good words for Urdu.
>
>Somehow the title of the thread confused me so I raised few questions.
Don‘t you dare lie, you just can’t comprehend it and came with
question like this
" Did he call anybody's 'joroo' 'bhaabhee'?"
Now this shows you have no clue what this proverb meant . Otherwise
you would have never asked the stupid question, Mohan Singh called
anyone’s wife this or that.
>The poster responded by claiming that the muhaavaraa(or should it be
>kahaavat)aptly translates the Pakistani custom of a married respected
>woman appreciating herself being addressed as 'bhaabhee' by every male
>other than her husband.
Again you are way too wrong, what you saying is definition of
"bhabhee" .This muhavraa in it's true sense means
"something becoming very common, popular and everyone adopts it" .
Like a poor man's wife whom everyone can call a bhabhee without any
hesitation . And this cannot be said about a rich man's wife who will
object strongly if you call her "bhabhee" by saying something like
"don’t you call me Bhabhee , I am not your bhabhee , I have no family
relations with you etc etc.
And then your Indian filthy mind went to another wacko conclusion that
by saying Bhabhee to a poor man's wife, everyone means to sleep with
her. What a filthy gutter thinking.
>Could this be true?
>
>Are joro, sabh Urdu words?
Why are you stuck on " joro" when I even mentioned in my post that
sometimes it is called " Joroo" also. Do you think I am writing all
this to win a Pulitzer prize here??? Why are you so mentally
retarded or is it your rotten old adage??? I hope I won’t be like
this when I get old as you are.
"Sabh" is also used and "sab" is also used for the same meanings.
Do you know where "sabhee" comes from????
English word for you is "knit picker" who has nothing else better
to do.
Romanise
> >away from people like you. Thank God and Jinnah for that.
> "rizv...@optonline.net" <rizv...@optonline.net> wrote
> You half Sikhs have elevated this dumb faggot to deity and for a good
> reason. Before Jinnah's unnatural act of splitting India most Muslim
> Punjabis made a living through Hira Mandi. Under Jinnah's
> rule all Punjabis opted to become soldiers. We soon saw result of
> Punjabi domination. In East Pakistan the soldiers of Punjab reverted
> back to their natural role of Pimps and surrendered without fight but
> in West Pakiland the army of Pimps still acts tough and with American
> supplied weapons has little difficulty in keeping the restless
> population in check.
The fellow says he likes Urdu, but this thread has clearly shown that
he cannot keep it separate from Punjabi. 'sabh' is the clue.
The fellow has become American citizen, wonder if it is like that of
Zafar Khan's additional one. Indications are that the fellow is
reasonably educated. One cannont expect anything better from likes of
thuko_three_times and his soulmate, but when likes of this fellow
cannot see predicaments of muslims of the subcontinent engendered by
megalomaniac like Jinnah, one fears muslims of the subcontinent will
have to wait far too long to be delivered from the clutches of the
blindning cult of Islam.
rizv...@optonline.net
The bastard lied and stated he was not a Punjabi, but we can smoke out
fakes in no time. You should therefore take all his claims with grain
of salt. After all he has yet to state his name and address a sure
sign of fear and anxiety associated with inferiority complex, or could
it be that he is simply inferior or he wouldn't be calling all his
detractors senile and stupid.
syed
>The bastard lied and stated he was not a Punjabi, but we can smoke out
>fakes in no time.
As I say you are not only old senile but a filthy liar and proven
piece of trash. See the proof here . on September 24, 2004, in
response to your post, this is what I wrote back( search on Google for
confirmation.
Quote
**********************************************************************************
From: syed (50...@highstream.net)
Subject: Re: When a Pak diplomat tried to strangle US official
View this article yuo retard
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian, soc.culture.china,
soc.culture.pakistan, soc.culture.usa, soc.culture.british
Date: 2004-09-24 07:04:21 PST
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 11:11:03 GMT, "rizv...@optonline.net"
<rizv...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>Spilling papers is like
>>
>>spilling beans, dropping papers on the floor, scattering them all over
>
>Spilling beans means to divulge secrets, a bit different than dropping
>papers on the floor.
yes you are right here for spilling beans but I was taking it in it's
literal meanings.
>
>>I may be wrong here too, so feel free to correct me if required.
>
>As usual you were wrong but would it prevent you from advertising your
>ignorance, remember you are a Punjabi first.
********************************************************************
Yes I sure am a Punjabi and pretty proud one too.
**************************************************************************
>You should therefore take all his claims with grain
>of salt.
You should take all my claims and use it for mental enema, you
seriously need one you pathetic senile
>After all he has yet to state his name and address a sure
>sign of fear and anxiety associated with inferiority complex, or could
>it be that he is simply inferior or he wouldn't be calling all his
>detractors senile and stupid.
**************************************************************************
End quote
I am not using any pseudo-name here but this is a forum and only
stupid like you will brag their wealth and addresses etc. I just
visit here to exchange views. if you have problem with that, again
take mental enema as in a democracy, it is encouraged to exchange
ideas/views without abuses, name calling .
Once again I proved you wrong , go drown yourself in the toilet bowl
and let Irene flush it once for all. You sure belong in your home’s
septic tank or Connecticut sewerage re-cycling plant, you nothing but
piece of s??t.
You two sure are senile and stupid and suffering from "dementia" .
syed
>> On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 16:09:50 -0500, syed <50...@highstream.net>
>> > Yes I like Urdu and Jinaah who gave us some breathing room to stay
>> >away from people like you. Thank God and Jinnah for that.
>
>> "rizv...@optonline.net" <rizv...@optonline.net> wrote
>> You half Sikhs have elevated this dumb faggot to deity and for a good
>> reason. Before Jinnah's unnatural act of splitting India most Muslim
>> Punjabis made a living through Hira Mandi. Under Jinnah's
>> rule all Punjabis opted to become soldiers. We soon saw result of
>> Punjabi domination. In East Pakistan the soldiers of Punjab reverted
>> back to their natural role of Pimps and surrendered without fight but
>> in West Pakiland the army of Pimps still acts tough and with American
>> supplied weapons has little difficulty in keeping the restless
>> population in check.
>
>The fellow says he likes Urdu,
Hope you don't have much problem with that. We all including Punjabi,
Pathans, Balochi , Sindhi love Urdu , even some Indians love Urdu too
and that is perfectly ok with us. All languages are good and have
pearls of wisdom, it's we who lack the understanding and time to lean
them.
>but this thread has clearly shown that
>he cannot keep it separate from Punjabi. 'sabh' is the clue.
Let me politely ask you the definition of Urdu here Mr. Wise Indian.
Is there any Sanskrit, Turkish, Persian or Pashto words in it or
not???
If your answer is in affirmation , then why not Punjabi which
incidentally is both Indian and Pakistani lingo too?? Why you have
such bias or grudge against Punjabi???? And why you are kicking in the
air for last few days like a donkey even I acknowledged in my post
that it is used in both ways Joro or Joroo , sab or sabh. Why you are
having menstrual pains for so long???
Or you are hell bent to masquerade your great expertise of Urdu while
I just love it (whatever little I may know it). I never claimed to
know it all like you & your buddy ultra senile Rizvi claim.
>The fellow has become American citizen,
Why you have any problem with that. Just like you are a british
subject on welfare and I absolutely have no problem with that. May be
Brits who are getting poorer by you type on hand outs. I have to work
in America as it is local culture and am proud of it. And I wish to
work till my d-day but in accordance to the age. Hope you won't have
cramps for me doing that.
>wonder if it is like that of
>Zafar Khan's additional one. Indications are that the fellow is
>reasonably educated.
Thank you but again do not have big claims here too.
> One cannont expect anything better from likes of
>thuko_three_times and his soulmate, but when likes of this fellow
>cannot see predicaments of muslims of the subcontinent engendered by
>megalomaniac like Jinnah,
Why you Hindus hate Jinnah, we think he did good for we poor Muslim
otherwise we may still living in some slums of India as most of (not
all) Indian Muslim are forced to and the decimated in riots( initiated
by fanatic Hindus like Kaar Sevaaks, RSS, VHP and numerous others) .
We Punjabis, Pathans, Sindhis and Balcohs( except those in the
clutches of Sardars, Vaderas, Zameendars) all got good opportunities
to better ourselves and we did.
Why can’t you type bigoted Hindus stomach that even brothers/sisters
leave Papa, Mama's house once they grow up. In West it is a sign of
shame if a kid stays with parents after he/she grows up.
>one fears muslims of the subcontinent will
>have to wait far too long to be delivered from the clutches of the
>blindning cult of Islam.
If they survived the hateful and degrading cult of Hinduism( being in
action for forceful re-conversion all across India) and does not want
to go back , why can't you people leave it to a fellow Indian to
decide his religion/cult or stay without any.
rizv...@optonline.net
>>The bastard lied and stated he was not a Punjabi, but we can smoke out
>>fakes in no time.
>
>As I say you are not only old senile but a filthy liar and proven
>piece of trash. See the proof here . on September 24, 2004, in
>response to your post, this is what I wrote back( search on Google for
>confirmation.
>>As usual you were wrong but would it prevent you from advertising your
>>ignorance, remember you are a Punjabi first.
>
>********************************************************************
>Yes I sure am a Punjabi and pretty proud one too.
>**************************************************************************
This is the beauty part about using Burqua, you can always say one
thing and something totally different some place else.
So you see, your forefathers were not so stupid when they taught you
how to use a Burqua properly. a lesson not lost on you entirely.
rizv...@optonline.net
>On 7 Nov 2004 00:49:14 -0800, dmj...@lycos.co.uk (Romanise) wrote:
>
>>> On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 16:09:50 -0500, syed <50...@highstream.net>
>>> > Yes I like Urdu and Jinaah who gave us some breathing room to stay
>>> >away from people like you. Thank God and Jinnah for that.
>>
>>> "rizv...@optonline.net" <rizv...@optonline.net> wrote
>>> You half Sikhs have elevated this dumb faggot to deity and for a good
>>> reason. Before Jinnah's unnatural act of splitting India most Muslim
>>> Punjabis made a living through Hira Mandi. Under Jinnah's
>>> rule all Punjabis opted to become soldiers. We soon saw result of
>>> Punjabi domination. In East Pakistan the soldiers of Punjab reverted
>>> back to their natural role of Pimps and surrendered without fight but
>>> in West Pakiland the army of Pimps still acts tough and with American
>>> supplied weapons has little difficulty in keeping the restless
>>> population in check.
>>
>>The fellow says he likes Urdu,
>
>Hope you don't have much problem with that. We all including Punjabi,
>Pathans, Balochi , Sindhi love Urdu , even some Indians love Urdu too
>and that is perfectly ok with us. All languages are good and have
>pearls of wisdom, it's we who lack the understanding and time to lean
>them.
What Ayub Khan or Gen Zia spoke can never be called Urdu. But if you
think you are a Urdu speaker who can argue with you. It would be lot
like trying to convince you of your Sikh genes which none of you is
willing to admit
syed
You are nothing but a shameless bastard. Instead of being embarrased,
he is coming up with more stupidities as always.
Gulshan Khan
Oh well I did warn you about this low life half sulla chaparasi....
The pimp chaparasi is a very very unique kind of a fruit cake....
take for example, preponderance of sulla genes are clearly visible on
this half breed retard along with every hindu/sikh that happens to
fall in the path of invading sulla armies! BUT the moment you nail the
chaparsi to the wall the pimp will revert to what his ancestors have
done for centuries that is lift dhoti from behind and bend over or on
the net start crowing burqa, paindoo, sikh, blah blah blah which is
equivalent to what his hijra ancestors did at the sight of swinging
sulla chappal.
You expect the half ghaznvid genes to be embarrassed! Only if you can
lower the concept of shame. But shame would be a meaningless commodity
in a nation of pimps & whores. I mean take for example, can you find a
nation on the planet that even surrendered to slaves? The less said
about this shameless ba$tard and his cronies the better.
Romanise
> >This thread was started by
> >
> >syed <50...@highstream.net>
> >
> >pasting Dr Man Mohan Singh's good words for Urdu.
> >
> >Somehow the title of the thread confused me so I raised few questions.
>
> Don?t you dare lie,
How do I lie?
I followed up by writing
"What is sulla and what is it in "Ghareeb kee joro, sabh kee bhabhee"?
May be Yusuf B Gursey has the answer.
Pakis are all alike, Syed, thooko and the rest of them.
Has Manmohan Singh said anything derogatory about Urdu?
Did Urdu originate in what is now Pakistan?
BTW 'joro' and 'sabh' may be Punjabi but not Urdu."
> you just can?t comprehend it
I did not ask what muhaavaraa means, did I?
> and came with
> question like this
>
> " Did he call anybody's 'joroo' 'bhaabhee'?"
That was paraphrase of
"Has Manmohan Singh said anything derogatory about Urdu?"
> Now this shows you have no clue what this proverb meant . Otherwise
> you would have never asked the stupid question, Mohan Singh called
> anyone?s wife this or that.
By now it is clear you did not know the meaning of the muhaavarra when
you started the thread.
> >The poster responded by claiming that the muhaavaraa(or should it be
> >kahaavat)aptly translates the Pakistani custom of a married respected
> >woman appreciating herself being addressed as 'bhaabhee' by every male
> >other than her husband.
>
> Again you are way too wrong, what you saying is definition of
> "bhabhee" .This muhavraa in it's true sense means
>
> "something becoming very common, popular and everyone adopts it" .
It tragically shows how Pakistan has hurt itself by trying to carry on
its education through Urdu.
I have trouble with Arabic, Persian, etc words in Urdu. The Muhaavaraa
has very little of them. That is why I wrote
"What is sulla and what is it in "Ghareeb kee joro, sabh kee bhabhee"?
May be Yusuf B Gursey has the answer."
Yes and I do not read Arabic script or any variations of it.
> Like a poor man's wife whom everyone can call a bhabhee without any
> hesitation .
Because she is highly respected?
> And this cannot be said about a rich man's wife who will
> object strongly if you call her "bhabhee" by saying something like
> "don?t you call me Bhabhee , I am not your bhabhee , I have no family
> relations with you etc etc.
What would she like to be addressed as?
How much poor a man has to be to have his wife respected by every
other male and so be called bhaabhee.
> "Sabh" is also used and "sab" is also used for the same meanings.
> Do you know where "sabhee" comes from????
It came from sab hee.
I will again leave to Yusuf B Gursey why you are making mistakes like
'sabh' in your Urdu.
syed
On 8 Nov 2004 00:16:01 -0800, dmj...@lycos.co.uk (Romanise) wrote:
>> On 6 Nov 2004 02:09:58 -0800, dmj...@lycos.co.uk (Romanise) wrote:
>> >This thread was started by
>> >
>> >syed <50...@highstream.net>
>> >
>> >pasting Dr Man Mohan Singh's good words for Urdu.
>> >
>> >Somehow the title of the thread confused me so I raised few questions.
>>
>syed <50...@highstream.net> wrote
>> Don?t you dare lie,
>
>How do I lie?
You don't even know.
>
>I followed up by writing
>"What is sulla and what is it in "Ghareeb kee joro, sabh kee bhabhee"?
I did not use word "sulla" , go ask the writer and I think he will
satisfy your ego pretty well.
>May be Yusuf B Gursey has the answer.
may be but ask Gulshan, he may have a better answer for you and alike.
>Pakis are all alike, Syed, thooko and the rest of them.
Paki is a derogatory term . dont expect us to behave if you keep
using these terms.
And you Romanise, Rizvi, Koolfire, South Indian , Habshi are all
extremist & bigoted Hindus???
>Has Manmohan Singh said anything derogatory about Urdu?
Who said that . If you have this in your skull, you should try to
find an answer yourself, I at least never said, the proverb I used
never means that. Where you get these stupid notions , is beyond me .
But as I said, you never had a clue what this proverb meant and that
generated all these very stupid Q's of yours.
>Did Urdu originate in what is now Pakistan?
I think I answered it before to my ability, go search it. Though I am
not your tutor.
>BTW 'joro' and 'sabh' may be Punjabi but not Urdu."
And Urdu is a conglomerate of many languages including Punjabi. May
be news to you but Urdu has many English words too. Ask Shakespeare
if it true when you see him up there or down here???
>
>> you just can?t comprehend it
>
>I did not ask what muhaavaraa means, did I?
But you asked all the stupid Q's cause you never get the proverb.
>
>> and came with
>> question like this
>>
>> " Did he call anybody's 'joroo' 'bhaabhee'?"
>
>That was paraphrase of
>"Has Manmohan Singh said anything derogatory about Urdu?"
>
>> Now this shows you have no clue what this proverb meant . Otherwise
>> you would have never asked the stupid question, Mohan Singh called
>> anyone?s wife this or that.
>
>By now it is clear you did not know the meaning of the muhaavarra when
>you started the thread.
OK if this can help you sleep better and relieve your chronic
constipation , then I will admit it just for humanity sake. After all
you are a neighbor .
>> >The poster responded by claiming that the muhaavaraa(or should it be
>> >kahaavat)aptly translates the Pakistani custom of a married respected
>> >woman appreciating herself being addressed as 'bhaabhee' by every male
>> >other than her husband.
>>
>> Again you are way too wrong, what you saying is definition of
>> "bhabhee" .This muhavraa in it's true sense means
>>
>> "something becoming very common, popular and everyone adopts it" .
>
>It tragically shows how Pakistan has hurt itself by trying to carry on
>its education through Urdu.
>I have trouble with Arabic, Persian, etc words in Urdu. The Muhaavaraa
>has very little of them.
Sincerely Romanise, I believe you have trouble with your bowls. Please
see a shrink pronto( in England I think it is free) before it
explodes.
>That is why I wrote
>"What is sulla and what is it in "Ghareeb kee joro, sabh kee bhabhee"?
>May be Yusuf B Gursey has the answer."
So why don’t you ask yusaf B.Gursey or does he not entertain retards.
>Yes and I do not read Arabic script or any variations of it.
I think even God has a sigh of relief knowing that, otherwise he may
have hard time pushing this through this senile Hindu brain( he
might even refer you to Ganesh or Hanuman for that, just to get rid of
you)
>> Like a poor man's wife whom everyone can call a bhabhee without any
>> hesitation .
>
>Because she is highly respected?
>
>> And this cannot be said about a rich man's wife who will
>> object strongly if you call her "bhabhee" by saying something like
>> "don?t you call me Bhabhee , I am not your bhabhee , I have no family
>> relations with you etc etc.
>
>What would she like to be addressed as?
Ask Mrs Advani or Mrs. Modi if they have one. Vaajpie only lives with
a box of "mithaee" & a chappal under his "chaarpie"
>How much poor a man has to be to have his wife respected by every
>other male and so be called bhaabhee.
Wait till I get my scale back from American standard of weights and
measures. Or visit British office of weights and measures but don't
go to Greenwitch
>
>> "Sabh" is also used and "sab" is also used for the same meanings.
>> Do you know where "sabhee" comes from????
>
>It came from sab hee.
OK uncle if you say so
>
>I will again leave to Yusuf B Gursey why you are making mistakes like
>'sabh' in your Urdu.
Ok uncle please introduce Mr. gursey to us and tell him not to spank
me for my "naalaikee" and tell him we are all eager to hear his
"bhaashan" pretty soon.
Till then namastaiy and please don’t forget to take "suppositories
for constipation and double the dose this time"
rizv...@optonline.net
You hide behind a Burqua and call me shameless.
Is this not one more proof of your Sikh/sick genes.
thoku123
What a lucky stroke..i did enjoy pleasure of two holes( yours too ) in one go!
"koolfire_or" <rohit_...@lycos.com> wrote in message news:<1099731679.7...@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>...
Romanise
> >but this thread has clearly shown that
> >he cannot keep it separate from Punjabi. 'sabh' is the clue.
> Let me politely ask you the definition of Urdu here Mr. Wise Indian.
> Is there any Sanskrit, Turkish, Persian or Pashto words in it or
> not???
> If your answer is in affirmation , then why not Punjabi which
> incidentally is both Indian and Pakistani lingo too?? Why you have
> such bias or grudge against Punjabi????
Is 'sabh' from Punjabi?
> And why you are kicking in the
> air for last few days like a donkey even I acknowledged in my post
> that it is used in both ways Joro or Joroo , sab or sabh.
I asked you to quote some established writer of Urdu for that.
> Why you are
> having menstrual pains for so long???
>
> Or you are hell bent to masquerade your great expertise of Urdu while
> I just love it (whatever little I may know it). I never claimed to
> know it all like you & your buddy ultra senile Rizvi claim.
I have never claimed to know Urdu.
> >The fellow has become American citizen,
>
> Why you have any problem with that. Just like you are a british
> subject on welfare
What are your grounds to claim either?
> and I absolutely have no problem with that. May be
> Brits who are getting poorer by you type on hand outs. I have to work
> in America as it is local culture and am proud of it. And I wish to
> work till my d-day but in accordance to the age. Hope you won't have
> cramps for me doing that.
>
> >wonder if it is like that of
> >Zafar Khan's additional one. Indications are that the fellow is
> >reasonably educated.
> Thank you but again do not have big claims here too.
>
> > One cannont expect anything better from likes of
> >thuko_three_times and his soulmate, but when likes of this fellow
> >cannot see predicaments of muslims of the subcontinent engendered by
> >megalomaniac like Jinnah,
>
> Why you Hindus hate Jinnah, we think he did good for we poor Muslim
Are you a poor(gareeb) muslim or a rich muslim?
> otherwise we may still living in some slums of India as most of (not
> all) Indian Muslim are forced to and the decimated in riots( initiated
> by fanatic Hindus like Kaar Sevaaks, RSS, VHP and numerous others) .
> We Punjabis, Pathans, Sindhis and Balcohs( except those in the
> clutches of Sardars, Vaderas, Zameendars) all got good opportunities
> to better ourselves and we did.
>
> Why can?t you type bigoted Hindus stomach that even brothers/sisters
> leave Papa, Mama's house once they grow up. In West it is a sign of
> shame if a kid stays with parents after he/she grows up.
>
> >one fears muslims of the subcontinent will
> >have to wait far too long to be delivered from the clutches of the
> >blindning cult of Islam.
>
> If they survived the hateful and degrading cult of Hinduism( being in
> action for forceful re-conversion all across India) and does not want
> to go back , why can't you people leave it to a fellow Indian to
> decide his religion/cult or stay without any.
No hindu would want you to reconvert.
koolfire_or
thoku123 wrote:
> ""the way i have been fucking you,you seem to be seeing my
> apparition in yur wifes hole"".
>
> What a lucky stroke..i did enjoy pleasure of two holes( yours too )
in one go!
hehehehe even your wife is a apperation....oh god,you never succeeded
in humping her in reality....i understand yur confusion,your ablity to
understand english is a problem.....yu should have read my post
properly jackass,the moment you read my post,like a ghadha,dhakan ke
aaulad in a tearing hurry,you thought you have great comeback,and ended
up making a fucking arsehole of yourself...being witty is an art,you
are too much of a village bumpkin,samje choothia.:-)
Romanise
> using these terms.
I suppose you prefer your president's term packies.
Meme Slayer
Languages are recognized by their structure,grammar &
morphology,vocabulary plays a minor part in identification of
language. Urdu is classified as Indo-Aryan language even though it
does have many foreign loan words. Persian/Pashto is also a memeber of
Indo-Iranian langauge family. So considering all this facts, Urdu is
an indian language & is more related to sanskrit/aryan than any other
language.
I know of a similar proverb that makes perfect sense.
"Garib ki beti, samaj ki bahu; lekin amir ki rakhat, logon ki bhabhi"
I dont know what "Garib ki joro,sab ki bhabhee" means.
> Why can?t you type bigoted Hindus stomach that even brothers/sisters
rizv...@optonline.net
wrote:
>>>It takes this half Sikh a week to come back with his usual nonsense,
>>
>>Forgive me senile, i have to work for living unlike you living on your
>>wife's pay check. Plus I don’t think it mandatory to answer all dumb
>>Q's of your senile Gujarati brother.
>
>
>Good luck trying to reason with a retard and his cronies....The retard
>gloss over Ghaznas efforts to validate the well known Ghaznvid effect,
>a big disaster but more about that later.
>
>God knows what makes half Ghaznvid genes such an authority on every
>thing or is pimping as a side business to a chaparasi too dull...
>Rest assured the half ghaznvid genes will claim to be an authority on
>Urdu too(Lord have mercy)...
>
>How you wished these freaks stayed with Sanskrit but when Ghaznvid
>genes kick in the nation of pimps and whores suddenly claim every
>sulla marvel from their language to their faith as one of their own.
>Nothing unusual about that...
So who does the half Sikh gets his views endorsed by, who else but
another half Sikh who also lives in a Burqua, also drives a cab and
harbours views just like his second cousin.
I have to say this much for you though, you have never yet bragged
about your non existent Ghaznvid genes.
Gulshan Khan
So half sulla pimp claims to be an authority on Urdu too.. May be
Ghaznvid genes were not taught in mandir that the Arabic alphabets are
products of Sulla soldiers just as you are and your whole worthless
nation of hindu pimps and whore.
Its about time you give up cleaning toilets in US and return to
Hindustan to join your ancestral profession of pimping your mothers
daughters and sisters to the highest bidder. Streets of US are no
place for your females.
But then whoever said mixing Ghaznas genes with hindu whores produced
a worthy nation.
syed
wrote:
>> >The fellow says he likes Urdu,
>>
>> Hope you don't have much problem with that. We all including Punjabi,
>> Pathans, Balochi , Sindhi love Urdu , even some Indians love Urdu too
>> and that is perfectly ok with us. All languages are good and have
>> pearls of wisdom, it's we who lack the understanding and time to lean
>> them.
>>
>> >but this thread has clearly shown that
>> >he cannot keep it separate from Punjabi. 'sabh' is the clue.
>>
>>
>> Let me politely ask you the definition of Urdu here Mr. Wise Indian.
>> Is there any Sanskrit, Turkish, Persian or Pashto words in it or
>> not???
>
>Languages are recognized by their structure,grammar &
>morphology,vocabulary plays a minor part in identification of
>language.
But then some languages I heard are totally built on vocabulary.
>Urdu is classified as Indo-Aryan language even though it
>does have many foreign loan words. Persian/Pashto is also a memeber of
>Indo-Iranian langauge family. So considering all this facts, Urdu is
>an indian language & is more related to sanskrit/aryan than any other
>language.
You can say that but Urdu has many words and even grammar from other
languages. Alphabets are also copied from foreign language but as the
language was developed in India, it has a significant amount of
Sanskrit and other local words in it.
>I know of a similar proverb that makes perfect sense.
>"Garib ki beti, samaj ki bahu; lekin amir ki rakhat, logon ki bhabhi"
correct me if I am wrong, rakhat means "keep" or as they say in Urdu
"londi"(concubine)???? or is it used for wife in Hindi. What language
is spoken in Rajputana area of India.
>I dont know what "Garib ki joro,sab ki bhabhee" means.
Something which becomes very popular in mainstream public.
Good informative post , thanks Meme
syed
>> If your answer is in affirmation , then why not Punjabi which
>> incidentally is both Indian and Pakistani lingo too?? Why you have
>> such bias or grudge against Punjabi????
>
>Is 'sabh' from Punjabi?
It is in Urdu , but it may have come from Punjabi, Pashto, Sindhi
biryani( ???), Balcohi or Farsi. Why do I care, do you???
>> And why you are kicking in the
>> air for last few days like a donkey even I acknowledged in my post
>> that it is used in both ways Joro or Joroo , sab or sabh.
>
>I asked you to quote some established writer of Urdu for that.
Am I supposed to fulfill everyone of your dumb request ?? Why. You
should research it at your own( and for heaven sake, when did I say,
it is an authentic established Urdu word when I wrote it). And if for
instance some word was not used by some established writer of Urdu,
then what will you do, kill someone for using or inventing or
including new words. for example "mantra" "pundit" Hindi words I
guess were never used by Shakespeare but are now used in English .
Mecca an Arabic and Muslim word, was never used in English language
before and now used extensively in English . What you want to do, hang
all English speaking public who use these words just because you never
used/ found in dictionary during your saner years. Languages
evolve, change with time. But this may not be known to individuals
like you still stuck in early last century .
>> Why you are
>> having menstrual pains for so long???
>>
>> Or you are hell bent to masquerade your great expertise of Urdu while
>> I just love it (whatever little I may know it). I never claimed to
>> know it all like you & your buddy ultra senile Rizvi claim.
>
>I have never claimed to know Urdu.
Ah then why are moaning and groaning for it is "Joro" or "Joroo"
for days or is it weeks now if you don't know Urdu or don't want to
know Urdu.
>
>> >The fellow has become American citizen,
>>
>> Why you have any problem with that. Just like you are a british
>> subject on welfare
>
>What are your grounds to claim either?
Because you have mentioned many a times that. And you have even
ridiculed me for being a grand son of a small time farmer. Would you
explain why should I be ashamed of that???
Contrarily I am very proud to come from a poor family and making it .
Coming from poor family to me is not a shameful thing but a proud
thing. May be for you though who was a son of some big Hindu Banayaa
businessman and now living on British dole.
>> and I absolutely have no problem with that. May be
>> Brits who are getting poorer by you type on hand outs. I have to work
>> in America as it is local culture and am proud of it. And I wish to
>> work till my d-day but in accordance to the age. Hope you won't have
>> cramps for me doing that.
>>
>> >wonder if it is like that of
>> >Zafar Khan's additional one. Indications are that the fellow is
>> >reasonably educated.
>> Thank you but again do not have big claims here too.
>>
>> > One cannont expect anything better from likes of
>> >thuko_three_times and his soulmate, but when likes of this fellow
>> >cannot see predicaments of muslims of the subcontinent engendered by
>> >megalomaniac like Jinnah,
>>
>> Why you Hindus hate Jinnah, we think he did good for we poor Muslim
>
>Are you a poor(gareeb) muslim or a rich muslim?
What is your standard for poor or rich??? Your Q can only be
attempted after you spill out your great Indian standards for that.
>> otherwise we may still living in some slums of India as most of (not
>> all) Indian Muslim are forced to and the decimated in riots( initiated
>> by fanatic Hindus like Kaar Sevaaks, RSS, VHP and numerous others) .
>> We Punjabis, Pathans, Sindhis and Balcohs( except those in the
>> clutches of Sardars, Vaderas, Zameendars) all got good opportunities
>> to better ourselves and we did.
>>
>> Why can?t you type bigoted Hindus stomach that even brothers/sisters
>> leave Papa, Mama's house once they grow up. In West it is a sign of
>> shame if a kid stays with parents after he/she grows up.
>>
>> >one fears muslims of the subcontinent will
>> >have to wait far too long to be delivered from the clutches of the
>> >blindning cult of Islam.
>>
>> If they survived the hateful and degrading cult of Hinduism( being in
>> action for forceful re-conversion all across India) and does not want
>> to go back , why can't you people leave it to a fellow Indian to
>> decide his religion/cult or stay without any.
>
>No hindu would want you to reconvert.
Your previous statement above negates that . Let me copy it for you
here to re-read what you wrote only yesterday.
**********************************************
>> >one fears muslims of the subcontinent will
>> >have to wait far too long to be delivered from the clutches of the
>> >blindning cult of Islam.
***************************************************************
Now what you say, Indians not only do not want Hindus to become
Muslim, Christians or Buddhist. They want all Muslim, Christians and
Buddhist to become "Shudra" again and be cursed for life . But as a
goodwill gesture, they will be throw some government jobs quota
like peon, doorman, driver, railway gate operator, clerk etc etc
thoku123
"koolfire_or" <rohit_...@lycos.com> wrote in message news:<1099933963....@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>...
thoku123
"koolfire_or" <rohit_...@lycos.com> wrote in message news:<1099933963....@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>...
koolfire_or
thoku123 wrote:
> kooly you cant hide your hole's mayhem behind incoherent stupid
verbal barrage
madherchowd thoti neither can you cause mayhem in yur dreams.
Romanise
syed <50...@highstream.net> wrote
> It is in Urdu , but it may have come from Punjabi, Pashto, Sindhi
> biryani( ???), Balcohi or Farsi. Why do I care, do you???
If I did not care why would I trouble a packie with 1001iq ?
> Am I supposed to fulfill everyone of your dumb request ?? Why.
If a human being makes a claim it invariably is ready to substantiate
it.
> Ah then why are moaning and groaning for it is "Joro" or "Joroo"
> for days or is it weeks now if you don't know Urdu or don't want to
> know Urdu.
To make the point how much ordinary pakistanis have lost in the name
of Urdu, not to speak of the rulers over a half of their slaves.
> >> >The fellow has become American citizen,
> >>
> >> Why you have any problem with that. Just like you are a british
> >> subject on welfare
> >
> >What are your grounds to claim either?
>
> Because you have mentioned many a times that.
Why not quite where I have wrote that I am a British subject and am
living on British welfare?
> And you have even
> ridiculed me for being a grand son of a small time farmer. Would you
> explain why should I be ashamed of that???
>
> Contrarily I am very proud to come from a poor family and making it .
> Coming from poor family to me is not a shameful thing but a proud
> thing. May be for you though who was a son of some big Hindu Banayaa
> businessman and now living on British dole.
What are the grounds for you to write that I "was a son of some big
Hindu Banayaa businessman" ?
> What is your standard for poor or rich???
Does your joro get excited when any dick calls her bhabhee?
> >> If they survived the hateful and degrading cult of Hinduism( being in
> >> action for forceful re-conversion all across India) and does not want
> >> to go back , why can't you people leave it to a fellow Indian to
> >> decide his religion/cult or stay without any.
> >
> >No hindu would want you to reconvert.
>
> Your previous statement above negates that . Let me copy it for you
> here to re-read what you wrote only yesterday.
> **********************************************
> >> >one fears muslims of the subcontinent will
> >> >have to wait far too long to be delivered from the clutches of the
> >> >blindning cult of Islam.
> ***************************************************************
>
> Now what you say, Indians not only do not want Hindus to become
> Muslim, Christians or Buddhist. They want all Muslim, Christians and
> Buddhist to become "Shudra" again and be cursed for life . But as a
> goodwill gesture, they will be throw some government jobs quota
> like peon, doorman, driver, railway gate operator, clerk etc etc
What I say is exactly what I said. "No hindu would want you to
reconvert."
Islam has done good job with you.
Romanise
> ghadha,dhakan ke
> aaulad
Does dhakan mean 'lid' Dhakkan ?
syed
>> What is your standard for poor or rich???
>Does your joro get excited when any dick calls her bhabhee?
Look at the question and look at your answer, that is why I say you
type old senile Hindus( even claiming to behighly educated and
civilized) are nothing but filth and thank God we got away from this
filth but some of this filth still comes on our newgroup and bother
us. We never visit indian newsgroup. 95% Hindus when can't argu, use
profanities and call themselves high class Hindus.
>> >No hindu would want you to reconvert.
>>
>> Your previous statement above negates that . Let me copy it for you
>> here to re-read what you wrote only yesterday.
>> **********************************************
>> >> >one fears muslims of the subcontinent will
>> >> >have to wait far too long to be delivered from the clutches of the
>> >> >blindning cult of Islam.
>> ***************************************************************
>>
>> Now what you say, Indians not only do not want Hindus to become
>> Muslim, Christians or Buddhist. They want all Muslim, Christians and
>> Buddhist to become "Shudra" again and be cursed for life . But as a
>> goodwill gesture, they will be throw some government jobs quota
>> like peon, doorman, driver, railway gate operator, clerk etc etc
>
>What I say is exactly what I said. "No hindu would want you to
>reconvert."
Who gave you a right to speak for all Hindus ??? Plus why VHP, RSS,
BJP are intimidating Indian Muslim to convert back to Hinduism, Why???
or you don't believe they are doing it.
>Islam has done good job with you.
Oh sure, otherwise I may still be worshipping some animal or weird
looking hand made idol.
Romanise
>
> >Does your joro get excited when any dick calls her bhabhee?
> syed <50...@highstream.net> wrote
> Look at the question and look at your answer,
I have replied to make muhaavraa clearer to you, besides you yourself
earlier gave an explanation how a rich man's wife in Pakistan will
respond to any dick addressing her as bhaabhee.
> that is why I say you
> type old senile Hindus( even claiming to behighly educated and
> civilized) are nothing but filth and thank God we got away from this
> filth but some of this filth still comes on our newgroup and bother
> us. We never visit indian newsgroup.
How many threads you have started only on SCI ?
> >What I say is exactly what I said. "No hindu would want you to
> >reconvert."
>
> Who gave you a right to speak for all Hindus ???
That is my birthright.
> Plus why VHP, RSS,
> BJP are intimidating Indian Muslim to convert back to Hinduism, Why???
> or you don't believe they are doing it.
If they are doing it hindus are not accepting them.
> >Islam has done good job with you.
>
> Oh sure, otherwise I may still be worshipping some animal or weird
> looking hand made idol.
What about worshipin Dubia and his $$$ ?
koolfire_or
dhakan means idiot...but since i used it on thoku,you can attribute
which ever 4 letter word you think is most vulgar and
appropriate,keeping a third class madherchod like thoti in prespective.
thoku123
dmj...@lycos.co.uk (Romanise) wrote in message news:<dcef526a.04110...@posting.google.com>...
rizv...@optonline.net
>On 9 Nov 2004 01:32:01 -0800, dmj...@lycos.co.uk (Romanise) wrote:
>>> What is your standard for poor or rich???
>
>
>>Does your joro get excited when any dick calls her bhabhee?
>
>Look at the question and look at your answer, that is why I say you
>type old senile Hindus( even claiming to behighly educated and
>civilized) are nothing but filth and thank God we got away from this
>filth but some of this filth still comes on our newgroup and bother
>us. We never visit indian newsgroup. 95% Hindus when can't argu, use
>profanities and call themselves high class Hindus.
You run and manage the biggest whore house in the world and chastise
Hindus for their promiscuity, what a half Sikh moron.
Small wonder nothing works as efficiently on Punjabi minds as the now
famous Banya Chappals.
syed
Mullah jee and Mullani jee must be thinking sitting up in the haven,
they could not spawn a trash like you. Or was it a mix up in the
civil Hospital, Lukhnow with some Brahmin kid???
Happy Ramadan Moulana Rizvi
Gulshan Khan
Ghaznas hawaldar was a moulana? I doubt it, the problem is due to
fusion of genes not a mix up in some cowshed mandir.. But then half
sullas are always worthless and on the receiving end...
rizv...@optonline.net
>>>>Does your joro get excited when any dick calls her bhabhee?
>>>
>>>Look at the question and look at your answer, that is why I say you
>>>type old senile Hindus( even claiming to behighly educated and
>>>civilized) are nothing but filth and thank God we got away from this
>>>filth but some of this filth still comes on our newgroup and bother
>>>us. We never visit indian newsgroup. 95% Hindus when can't argu, use
>>>profanities and call themselves high class Hindus.
>>
>>You run and manage the biggest whore house in the world and chastise
>>Hindus for their promiscuity, what a half Sikh moron.
>>Small wonder nothing works as efficiently on Punjabi minds as the now
>>famous Banya Chappals.
>
>
>Mullah jee and Mullani jee must be thinking sitting up in the haven,
>they could not spawn a trash like you. Or was it a mix up in the
>civil Hospital, Lukhnow with some Brahmin kid???
>Happy Ramadan Moulana Rizvi
Some day you will learn to retort with humor and sting, till such time
I suggest you practice on your other cousins like Gullo or Thoku
an apt name plagiarized from his step father or was it her lover.
syed
>"rizv...@optonline.net" <rizv...@optonline.net> wrote
>> Some day you will learn to retort with humor and sting,
>
>Not a chance his education being imparted through not his mother's and
>grandmother's language.
So in your wise opinion, knowledge can only be transmitted through
mata/pita's lingo and none else.
Then may i ask the language you are babbling in, is not your
mata/pita's language. All sciences/engineering/medicine education in
Indian is infused through English (not Indian mata/pita lingo) . And
in India , the common lingo amongst Indian states is mostly English
and not Indian mata/pita lingo. Why senile why???
Romanise
> it means his(kooly's) thoku, dumby pujaree lover boy!!
Of course everyone on usenet is aware that you love boys to thok you.
What Rohit Manohar wrote reminded me of the language, I believe,
Shakti Kapoor uses in one of Kadar Kan's movies.
thoku123
hey you pujaree lover boy romanize! how many times i have finger
wirelessed you that i am NOT a paki but an honourable 4th race dalit
from south india? why could'nt you get that in your flat brain first
time? sala sootiya!
dmj...@lycos.co.uk (Romanise) wrote in message news:<dcef526a.04110...@posting.google.com>...
> > On 6 Nov 2004 02:09:58 -0800, dmj...@lycos.co.uk (Romanise) wrote:
> > >This thread was started by
> > >
> > >syed <50...@highstream.net>
> > >
> > >pasting Dr Man Mohan Singh's good words for Urdu.
> > >
> > >Somehow the title of the thread confused me so I raised few questions.
> >
> syed <50...@highstream.net> wrote
> > Don?t you dare lie,
>
> How do I lie?
>
> I followed up by writing
> "What is sulla and what is it in "Ghareeb kee joro, sabh kee bhabhee"?
> May be Yusuf B Gursey has the answer.
> Pakis are all alike, Syed, thooko and the rest of them.
> Has Manmohan Singh said anything derogatory about Urdu?
> Did Urdu originate in what is now Pakistan?
> BTW 'joro' and 'sabh' may be Punjabi but not Urdu."
>
>
> > you just can?t comprehend it
>
> I did not ask what muhaavaraa means, did I?
>
> > and came with
> > question like this
> >
> > " Did he call anybody's 'joroo' 'bhaabhee'?"
>
> That was paraphrase of
> "Has Manmohan Singh said anything derogatory about Urdu?"
>
> > Now this shows you have no clue what this proverb meant . Otherwise
> > you would have never asked the stupid question, Mohan Singh called
> > anyone?s wife this or that.
>
> By now it is clear you did not know the meaning of the muhaavarra when
> you started the thread.
>
>
>
> > >The poster responded by claiming that the muhaavaraa(or should it be
> > >kahaavat)aptly translates the Pakistani custom of a married respected
> > >woman appreciating herself being addressed as 'bhaabhee' by every male
> > >other than her husband.
> >
> > Again you are way too wrong, what you saying is definition of
> > "bhabhee" .This muhavraa in it's true sense means
> >
> > "something becoming very common, popular and everyone adopts it" .
>
> It tragically shows how Pakistan has hurt itself by trying to carry on
> its education through Urdu.
> I have trouble with Arabic, Persian, etc words in Urdu. The Muhaavaraa
> has very little of them. That is why I wrote
> "What is sulla and what is it in "Ghareeb kee joro, sabh kee bhabhee"?
> May be Yusuf B Gursey has the answer."
> Yes and I do not read Arabic script or any variations of it.
>
> > Like a poor man's wife whom everyone can call a bhabhee without any
> > hesitation .
>
> Because she is highly respected?
>
> > And this cannot be said about a rich man's wife who will
> > object strongly if you call her "bhabhee" by saying something like
> > "don?t you call me Bhabhee , I am not your bhabhee , I have no family
> > relations with you etc etc.
>
> What would she like to be addressed as?
> How much poor a man has to be to have his wife respected by every
> other male and so be called bhaabhee.
>
> > "Sabh" is also used and "sab" is also used for the same meanings.
> > Do you know where "sabhee" comes from????
>
> It came from sab hee.
>
> I will again leave to Yusuf B Gursey why you are making mistakes like
> 'sabh' in your Urdu.
koolfire_or
i suggest you take some rest for a few days....not R.I.P,to begin with,
i will need a enigma code breaker,to decipher..what you are getting
at,rsa encryption keys dont work for your posts.
syed
>syed <50...@highstream.net> wrote
>> So in your wise opinion, knowledge can only be transmitted through
>> mata/pita's lingo and none else.
>
>Language of those who raised you as a child.
And if there is no education igiven in that language, should they
not send their kids to school???
>> Then may i ask the language you are babbling in, is not your
>> mata/pita's language.
>
>I studied upto M.A. through Gujarati.
Still it didn't make you a wise man( even at the age of 75, you love
to indulge in profanities) or you did your masters in profanities????
Knowledge can be attained in any language or even no language .
Knowledge can be transferred even in sign language( that may be news
to you but it is true)
>What and how much you were
>taught through Punjabi.
Not much but was this a sin?? or was it my fault if there were no
school established in Punjabi language. A newly created nation of
Pakistan could not afford to have schools/books established in every
provincial language, so they agreed on Urdu( if they have decided on
Arabic, Persian, I might have learned that)
>> All sciences/engineering/medicine education in
>> Indian is infused through English (not Indian mata/pita lingo).
>Students get into Colleges having cleared their school graduation
>through their mother tongues in India.
May be in poor public schools but not in Convents/English medium
schools where Indian elite sends their kids fro education.
> But Pakistanis being only true
>Muslims have to start their first standard in primary school in Urdu.
Urdu is not a Quranic language but a regional language dumbo. Why you
are so much against Urdu. language is used for communication and if it
functions well, what is the problem???
>I am sure there are forces in Pakistan who are advocating Arabic to
>replace Urdu.
Yes ther are/were but could not succeed though there is/was not much
problem adopting Arabic as a national language( close to urdu also) .
It would have helped them understand islam and Arabs better, trade
with Middle Eeast better, job opportunities for Pakistanis in Middle
East better etc . Urdu still is very close to Arbaic though.
>
>> And
>> in India , the common lingo amongst Indian states is mostly English
>> and not Indian mata/pita lingo. Why senile why???
>
>We are talking about primary schools. Through what languages Pakistani
>children are introduced to literacy?
Urdu and English mostly but regional languages are coming up also.
Urdu is a beautiful language but ends at poetry( romantic and
religious). So even if you study Urdu, it ends at
" Sarhaanaiy Mir kaiy aahistaa bolo"
I enjoy it for nice poetry but that is where it ends. because nice
poetry could not save India from Brits.
Romanise
>
> i am a 4th race dalit
> from south india?
How many races are there in South India?
You did proclaim yourself to be a Bhangi but anywhere among dravidian
none is called Bhangi. We did go over this point at length with many
South Indians taking part in the discussion.
Romanise
> >Language of those who raised you as a child.
syed <50...@highstream.net> wrote
> And if there is no education igiven in that language, should they
> not send their kids to school???
It waas duty of your father to fight for Punjabi to be your language
of first encounter with written word, because from your mother and
grand mother you learnt spoken words of Punjabi first.
> Still it didn't make you a wise man( even at the age of 75, you love
> to indulge in profanities) or you did your masters in profanities????
How do you compare them with profanities of your Packie brothers who
run to help you out and you smugly accept their help, like
thuoko_three_times and higher up on your rescuer's list the fellow
shits on flowers.
> Knowledge can be attained in any language or even no language .
An example of second?
> Knowledge can be transferred even in sign language( that may be news
> to you but it is true)
People who use sign language do they also read sign language?
> >What and how much you were
> >taught through Punjabi.
>
> Not much but was this a sin?? or was it my fault if there were no
> school established in Punjabi language.
It was not your fault when you were a child but it is your fault since
you have become an adult, that is if you have become an adult.
> A newly created nation of
> Pakistan could not afford to have schools/books established in every
> provincial language,
India did it.
> May be in poor public schools but not in Convents/English medium
> schools where Indian elite sends their kids fro education.
In missionary schools like St Zaviers, Seventh Day Adventists, St
Bishop English medium classes are smaller than regional language
medium classes.
At IIT, NDA etc entrance examinations Regional Language Medium Higher
Secondary Certificate holder pupils always beat their English Medium
counterparts.
> > But Pakistanis being only true
> >Muslims have to start their first standard in primary school in Urdu.
>
> Urdu is not a Quranic language but a regional language dumbo.
A regional language stuffed with lots of Arabic and Persian words
written in a non-subcontinental script at the behest of Islamic
supremacist fundamentalists.
> Why you
> are so much against Urdu.
Unless you are not sorry for what your beoithers did to Bengali women
you should be against it too. You dont know it anyway.
> Yes ther are/were but could not succeed though there is/was not much
> problem adopting Arabic as a national language( close to urdu also) .
> It would have helped them understand islam and Arabs better, trade
> with Middle Eeast better, job opportunities for Pakistanis in Middle
> East better etc . Urdu still is very close to Arbaic though.
You are showing your true colours. Keep it up. Americans will spot you
off one day.
> Urdu and English mostly but regional languages are coming up also.
Tell me where and how it is happening? Are Kashmiris introduced to
written word through Kashmiri, are Balochis introduced to written word
through Balochi?
> Urdu is a beautiful language but ends at poetry( romantic and
> religious). So even if you study Urdu, it ends at
>
> " Sarhaanaiy Mir kaiy aahistaa bolo"
What is "Sarhaanaiy".
> I enjoy it for nice poetry but that is where it ends. because nice
> poetry could not save India from Brits.
Worry about who and what will save Pakistan from Bush and Talebans.
South Indian
> ""Pakis are all alike, Syed, thooko and the rest of them.""
>
> hey you pujaree lover boy romanize! how many times i have finger
> wirelessed you that i am NOT a paki but an honourable 4th race dalit
> from south india? why could'nt you get that in your flat brain first
> time? sala sootiya!
>
Thoku bhawra, Teri ma ki....
You becoming honourable is perhaps acceptable after repeated
purifications by auspicious brahmins by the way of deep penetrations
of rear hole. By this method you can be raised to the level of OBC II
B category by another 12 months.
Romanise
syed
>syed <50...@highstream.net> wrote
>> And if there is no education given in that language, should they
>> not send their kids to school???
>
>It waas duty of your father to fight for Punjabi to be your language
>of first encounter with written word, because from your mother and
>grand mother you learnt spoken words of Punjabi first.
Punjabis were hard working village folks who entered the arena of
education later than Banyaas, Urdu speaking Muslim and other
ethnicities in India . At the birth of Pakistan, the whole bureaucracy
and government was in the hands of Urdu speaking Muslim( rightly so as
they were the only educated Muslim with very few Punjabis and Bengalis
at that time). Punjabis were out of the corridors of power in
Pakistan. however in later years once they flocked educational
institutes , they are now everywhere at par with other ethnicities.
I love Punjabi and Urdu . Like fashion, languages also go up & down
with time. Like every Indian actor and actress had a craze to speak
English, so is happening in Pakistan too. Though I hate it as we have
a very sweet language to communicate amongst us, why even use English
among ourselves. It is ok when interacting on the international
level.
>
>
>> Still it didn't make you a wise man( even at the age of 75, you love
>> to indulge in profanities) or you did your masters in profanities????
>
>How do you compare them with profanities of your Packie brothers who
>run to help you out and you smugly accept their help, like
>thuoko_three_times and higher up on your rescuer's list the fellow
>shits on flowers.
Though it is not nice for anyone to use filthy lingo but all these
Indian and Pakistanis are young emotional fellows who do it all the
time( list of Indian is much longer than Pakistanis) However when
old fellows( born before Bharat and Pakistan were born) like you and
Rizvi do that, it is disgusting. Anyway if you get some
enjoyment/relaxation out of it, keep it up. After all it may be part
of your great culture & heritage.
I had never asked/communicated privately with anyone to do it in my
support . I think, I am very able to defend myself and even burn you
and alike without using profanities. Whenever they come, they come at
their own and speak their mind (I personally never agree with
profanities coming from Pakistanis or Indians). We should be able to
differ with each other in a socially acceptable language.
>> Knowledge can be attained in any language or even no language .
>
>An example of second?
Many times people who can't even hear or speak are found more
knowledgeable than general public.
>> Knowledge can be transferred even in sign language( that may be news
>> to you but it is true)
>
>People who use sign language do they also read sign language?
But sign language is not Gujarati, Punjabi or Hindi. it is just sign
language. Do you have a Gujarati sign language in Gujarat???
>
>> >What and how much you were
>> >taught through Punjabi.
>>
>> Not much but was this a sin?? or was it my fault if there were no
>> school established in Punjabi language.
Knowledge can also be transferred in spoken language( was a mode of
knowledge transfer before the era of pen and paper if you don't know)
>It was not your fault when you were a child but it is your fault since
>you have become an adult, that is if you have become an adult.
OK suppose we Punjabi/Pakistani were/are not very wise people for
not developing our own language . Why India has not developed all
sciences/engineering/medicine terminology in Hindi yet??? Why ther is
no vocabulary in Sanskrit either while I think Arabic and Persian has
it.
Has this proved to be a handicap for India to compete the world in
these fields??? contrarily Indians claim they are the best computer
literate/experts even with non-Hindi computer languages.
>> A newly created nation of
>> Pakistan could not afford to have schools/books established in every
>> provincial language,
>
>India did it.
Up to what?? Indian had lot more resources and infrastructure than
Pakistan in 1947. Still Indians never developed a national language
and still communicate in Englis even among themselves.
I spent few months in an international hostel in a German school
some years back. We were 5-6 fellows from Pakistan and there were
about 7- 8 Indians , few Americans, south Africans, Hungarians etc. We
all were living on different floors of hostel. Pakistanis in the
evening used to get together and cook/eat their food and hang out
together and communicate in Urdu( we had a Pathan guy, two Karachites,
two Punjabis and a Balochi). While Indians never were together,
always communicated in English and stayed away from each other. A
visiting professor from Georgia Tech loved our food and introduced
himself to our group and became a common friend, even invited us all
for dinner once his family was there. One day he asked me, why you
Pakistanis always stay together and speak your own language while
Indians always speak English among themselves. Well we have to
explain that North & South India have their own languages/cultures
and do not like each others lingo so they speak a neutral language
which in this case is English.
>
>> May be in poor public schools but not in Convents/English medium
>> schools where Indian elite sends their kids fro education.
>
>In missionary schools like St Zaviers, Seventh Day Adventists, St
>Bishop English medium classes are smaller than regional language
>medium classes.
>
>At IIT, NDA etc entrance examinations Regional Language Medium Higher
>Secondary Certificate holder pupils always beat their English Medium
>counterparts.
That may be what you believe / generally not true as these kids get
much more learning tools, exposure and trained teachers than a village
school. Occasionally some very bright kid comes out up on top but in
genral they stay at clerk/baboo level jobs.
>> > But Pakistanis being only true
>> >Muslims have to start their first standard in primary school in Urdu.
>>
>> Urdu is not a Quranic language but a regional language dumbo.
>
>A regional language stuffed with lots of Arabic and Persian words
>written in a non-subcontinental script at the behest of Islamic
>supremacist fundamentalists.
Lots of Sanskrit too Dumbo. And Arabic I think is fourth largest
language of the world and even have all sciences/engineering/medicine
terminology in it too.
>
>> Why you
>> are so much against Urdu.
>
>Unless you are not sorry for what your beoithers did to Bengali women
>you should be against it too.
What has a language to do with the atrocities. A rape is a rape in
any language or culture or without.
>You dont know it anyway.
>
>
>> Yes ther are/were but could not succeed though there is/was not much
>> problem adopting Arabic as a national language( close to urdu also) .
>> It would have helped them understand islam and Arabs better, trade
>> with Middle Eeast better, job opportunities for Pakistanis in Middle
>> East better etc . Urdu still is very close to Arbaic though.
>
>You are showing your true colours. Keep it up. Americans will spot you
>off one day.
And if you don’t know America has a big demand for Arabic speaking
Americans. One of my kid is learning Arabic in school. And never
under estimate Americans, we all Muslim Americans are already under
the spot light 24 hours a day. But the maturity of this country is
they still do not discriminate( Example if something like 9-11 was
committed by Americans in India or Pakistan, all Americans would be
burned /killed like Gujarati Muslim and Delhi Sikhs) but despite the
anger of 9-11 , generally we were not discriminated , burned or
killed. Plus few of our community kids became valedictorians, admitted
in professional schools on merit and kept their jobs except few cases
of discrimination here and there cannot be ruled out.
Bush came on TV and shamed common Ameriacns to take it on innocent
Muslim. While Modi and avani planned and perpetrated Indian mulsim
genocide from the chief Minister’s house. It shows you how immature
Indian nation is.
>
>> Urdu and English mostly but regional languages are coming up also.
>
>Tell me where and how it is happening? Are Kashmiris introduced to
>written word through Kashmiri, are Balochis introduced to written word
>through Balochi?
It is job of kashmiris, Balcohis , Punjabis and Pathans to do it. No
Urdu speaking is going to motivate them to promote their regional
languages. While we are on it, Punjab has already started promoting
Punjabi and Pathans Pushto. few more years and these languages will
have a big come back. watch it Gujarati Brahmin or Banyaa neighbor.
>
>
>> Urdu is a beautiful language but ends at poetry( romantic and
>> religious). So even if you study Urdu, it ends at
>>
>> " Sarhaanaiy Mir kaiy aahistaa bolo"
>
>What is "Sarhaanaiy".
You know the difference between Joro and Joroo why not sirhanaiy or
sirhana or "takyaa" .
Thaa Takyaa jin pay?????????
>
>> I enjoy it for nice poetry but that is where it ends. because nice
>> poetry could not save India from Brits.
>
>Worry about who and what will save Pakistan from Bush and Talebans.
God, who takes care of all and who will take back all, may it be
Yasir, Chenny, Bush or Mush. Don’t know about you though , is it kali
mata, gow mata , Ram pita or Krishna pita.
Romanise
> education later than Banyaas,
There were no cities in Punjab or Punjabis did not live in cities?
> Urdu speaking Muslim and other
> ethnicities in India . At the birth of Pakistan, the whole bureaucracy
> and government was in the hands of Urdu speaking Muslim( rightly so as
> they were the only educated Muslim
Why did Pakistan had to have only educated Urdu speaking Muslims,
there were Punjabis who were educated but not Muslims. Why could not
Pakistan keep them?
Muslims of what is now Punjab imported Urdu speaking Muslims to rule
over them and set the ball rolling which first led to break up of
Pakistan and 'ab aur kyaa gul khilaayenge, kyaa pataa'
> with very few Punjabis and Bengalis
> at that time).
There was no dearth of educated Bengali muslims.
> Punjabis were out of the corridors of power in
> Pakistan. however in later years once they flocked educational
> institutes , they are now everywhere at par with other ethnicities.
>
> I love Punjabi and Urdu . Like fashion, languages also go up & down
> with time.
No language that goes down ever comes up again, unless of course it is
brought up to serve hidden imperialistic agenda.
> Like every Indian actor and actress had a craze to speak
> English,
Today's Indian actor and actresses are mostly boarding school children
where children affluent parents from every where in the world are sent
away.
> I had never asked/communicated privately with anyone to do it in my
> support . I think, I am very able to defend myself and even burn you
Sure you are entitled to kid yourself.
> and alike without using profanities. Whenever they come, they come at
> their own
If you did not appreciate their support you would have said so.
> and speak their mind (I personally never agree with
> profanities coming from Pakistanis or Indians). We should be able to
> differ with each other in a socially acceptable language.
>
>
> >> Knowledge can be attained in any language or even no language .
> >
> >An example of second?
>
> Many times people who can't even hear or speak are found more
> knowledgeable than general public.
How many deaf and dumb you have learnt things from?
> >> Knowledge can be transferred even in sign language( that may be news
> >> to you but it is true)
> >
> >People who use sign language do they also read sign language?
>
> But sign language is not Gujarati, Punjabi or Hindi. it is just sign
> language. Do you have a Gujarati sign language in Gujarat???
I know nothing about sign language. That is why I asked you if deaf
and dumb read sign language, they can see after all.
> OK suppose we Punjabi/Pakistani were/are not very wise people for
> not developing our own language .
Punjabi is well developed language and is very much used in Indian
State of Punjab. It is in Pakistan that it has been ignored to the
detriment of ordina
ry people. Mind you your father was a metriculate before 1947 and that
much qualification in those days was more potent to rise in society
than university graduation of these days.
> Why India has not developed all
> sciences/engineering/medicine terminology in Hindi yet??? Why ther is
> no vocabulary in Sanskrit
India has managed much better in terms of literacy than Pakistan has.
> either while I think Arabic and Persian has
> it.
If your Urdu is what you have been shpwing here I doubt you know
anything about these languages least of it about Sanskrit.
> Has this proved to be a handicap for India to compete the world in
> these fields???
India never ignored the regional languages like Pakistan did.
> contrarily Indians claim they are the best computer
> literate/experts even with non-Hindi computer languages.
>
>
> >> A newly created nation of
> >> Pakistan could not afford to have schools/books established in every
> >> provincial language,
> >
> >India did it.
>
> Up to what??
By 1963 students could be taught Physics at M.Sc. level in the
classrooms and students could write their exams in regional languages,
even if they read books in English.
> Indian had lot more resources and infrastructure than
> Pakistan in 1947. Still Indians never developed a national language
> and still communicate in Englis even among themselves.
All Indian languages are well developed, well used national languages.
> >In missionary schools like St Zaviers, Seventh Day Adventists, St
> >Bishop English medium classes are smaller than regional language
> >medium classes.
> >
> >At IIT, NDA etc entrance examinations Regional Language Medium Higher
> >Secondary Certificate holder pupils always beat their English Medium
> >counterparts.
>
> That may be what you believe / generally not true
You know Indian education better than I do?
> as these kids get
> much more learning tools, exposure and trained teachers than a village
> school. Occasionally some very bright kid comes out up on top but in
> genral they stay at clerk/baboo level jobs.
How can I help you if you wish to remain with your prejudices.
> Bush came on TV and shamed
Does Bush himself has any shame?
> common Ameriacns to take it on innocent
> Muslim. While Modi and avani planned and perpetrated Indian mulsim
> genocide from the chief Minister?s house. It shows you how immature
> Indian nation is.
Indians changed the government, while killings in Iraq go unabated.
> It is job of kashmiris, Balcohis ,
No resposibility of Pakistan?
> >> " Sarhaanaiy Mir kaiy aahistaa bolo"
> >
> >What is "Sarhaanaiy".
>
> You know the difference between Joro and Joroo why not sirhanaiy or
> sirhana or "takyaa" .
Another gem of your Urdu?
rizv...@optonline.net
>On 13 Nov 2004 03:20:41 -0800, dmj...@lycos.co.uk (Romanise) wrote:
>>syed <50...@highstream.net> wrote
>>> And if there is no education given in that language, should they
>>> not send their kids to school???
>>
>>It waas duty of your father to fight for Punjabi to be your language
>>of first encounter with written word, because from your mother and
>>grand mother you learnt spoken words of Punjabi first.
>
>Punjabis were hard working village folks who entered the arena of
>education later than Banyaas, Urdu speaking Muslim and other
>ethnicities in India . At the birth of Pakistan, the whole bureaucracy
>and government was in the hands of Urdu speaking Muslim( rightly so as
>they were the only educated Muslim with very few Punjabis and Bengalis
>at that time). Punjabis were out of the corridors of power in
>Pakistan. however in later years once they flocked educational
>institutes , they are now everywhere at par with other ethnicities.
Hardworking?
hardly, brainless twits, now that's more like it.
To think they are at par with Mohajirs is nothing short of allusion.
>I love Punjabi and Urdu . Like fashion, languages also go up & down
>with time. Like every Indian actor and actress had a craze to speak
>English, so is happening in Pakistan too. Though I hate it as we have
>a very sweet language to communicate amongst us, why even use English
>among ourselves. It is ok when interacting on the international
>level.
The language of Punjab which your kind has trouble accepting is
Gormukhi, which your kind would go back to speaking it again. Hell, I
would contribute personal funds to set up an institution to enhence
and foster this sweet language as you rightfully call it.
>>> Still it didn't make you a wise man( even at the age of 75, you love
>>> to indulge in profanities) or you did your masters in profanities????
>>
>>How do you compare them with profanities of your Packie brothers who
>>run to help you out and you smugly accept their help, like
>>thuoko_three_times and higher up on your rescuer's list the fellow
>>shits on flowers.
>
>Though it is not nice for anyone to use filthy lingo but all these
>Indian and Pakistanis are young emotional fellows who do it all the
>time( list of Indian is much longer than Pakistanis) However when
>old fellows( born before Bharat and Pakistan were born) like you and
>Rizvi do that, it is disgusting. Anyway if you get some
>enjoyment/relaxation out of it, keep it up. After all it may be part
>of your great culture & heritage.
Most Paki Punjabis grew up in Hira Mandi where polite language was
rare and profanity the everyday currency
I do not use profanity and challenge you to prove me wrong.
No vocabulary in Sanskrit?
How do you explain Oppenheimer, father of atom bomb became a scholar
of sanskrit?
The less this idiot knows the more he talks, typical Paindoo bombast.
>Has this proved to be a handicap for India to compete the world in
>these fields??? contrarily Indians claim they are the best computer
>literate/experts even with non-Hindi computer languages.
So what's the big deal in this, most of the medical text in Japanese
Medical schools happens to be in German.
>>> A newly created nation of
>>> Pakistan could not afford to have schools/books established in every
>>> provincial language,
>>
>>India did it.
>
> Up to what?? Indian had lot more resources and infrastructure than
>Pakistan in 1947. Still Indians never developed a national language
>and still communicate in Englis even among themselves.
>
>I spent few months in an international hostel in a German school
>some years back. We were 5-6 fellows from Pakistan and there were
>about 7- 8 Indians , few Americans, south Africans, Hungarians etc. We
>all were living on different floors of hostel. Pakistanis in the
>evening used to get together and cook/eat their food and hang out
>together and communicate in Urdu( we had a Pathan guy, two Karachites,
>two Punjabis and a Balochi). While Indians never were together,
>always communicated in English and stayed away from each other. A
>visiting professor from Georgia Tech loved our food and introduced
>himself to our group and became a common friend, even invited us all
>for dinner once his family was there. One day he asked me, why you
>Pakistanis always stay together and speak your own language while
>Indians always speak English among themselves. Well we have to
>explain that North & South India have their own languages/cultures
>and do not like each others lingo so they speak a neutral language
>which in this case is English.
Could it be that being Pakis and worse yet Paindoos which kept your
inferiority complex into high gear. Instead of intermingling with your
host you found comfort in other Paindoos company, why am I not
surprised.
>>> May be in poor public schools but not in Convents/English medium
>>> schools where Indian elite sends their kids fro education.
>>
>>In missionary schools like St Zaviers, Seventh Day Adventists, St
>>Bishop English medium classes are smaller than regional language
>>medium classes.
>>
>>At IIT, NDA etc entrance examinations Regional Language Medium Higher
>>Secondary Certificate holder pupils always beat their English Medium
>>counterparts.
>
>That may be what you believe / generally not true as these kids get
>much more learning tools, exposure and trained teachers than a village
>school. Occasionally some very bright kid comes out up on top but in
>genral they stay at clerk/baboo level jobs.
>
>
>>> > But Pakistanis being only true
>>> >Muslims have to start their first standard in primary school in Urdu.
>>>
>>> Urdu is not a Quranic language but a regional language dumbo.
>>
>>A regional language stuffed with lots of Arabic and Persian words
>>written in a non-subcontinental script at the behest of Islamic
>>supremacist fundamentalists.
>
> Lots of Sanskrit too Dumbo. And Arabic I think is fourth largest
>language of the world and even have all sciences/engineering/medicine
>terminology in it too.
Urdu is more heavily influenced by Persian than Arabic but what's the
point of trying to educate you, it would be a losing battle.
>>
>>> Why you
>>> are so much against Urdu.
>>
>>Unless you are not sorry for what your beoithers did to Bengali women
>>you should be against it too.
>
>What has a language to do with the atrocities. A rape is a rape in
>any language or culture or without.
I think atrocities has become a part and parcel of Muslim Punjabi
culture. The Muslims in Punjab saw how a handful of Sikh ruled them
with proper application of atrocities which kept these animal quiet
and peaceful.
Upon gaining power in the 60s and 70s they tried what they had learned
from the Sikhs on Bengalis and other minorities of Pakistan.
The prompt and forceful application of Banya Chappals put an end to
Punjabi atrocities but only temporarily.
>>You dont know it anyway.
>>
>>
>>> Yes ther are/were but could not succeed though there is/was not much
>>> problem adopting Arabic as a national language( close to urdu also) .
>>> It would have helped them understand islam and Arabs better, trade
>>> with Middle Eeast better, job opportunities for Pakistanis in Middle
>>> East better etc . Urdu still is very close to Arbaic though.
>>
>>You are showing your true colours. Keep it up. Americans will spot you
>>off one day.
>
>
>And if you don’t know America has a big demand for Arabic speaking
>Americans. One of my kid is learning Arabic in school. And never
>under estimate Americans, we all Muslim Americans are already under
>the spot light 24 hours a day. But the maturity of this country is
>they still do not discriminate( Example if something like 9-11 was
>committed by Americans in India or Pakistan, all Americans would be
>burned /killed like Gujarati Muslim and Delhi Sikhs) but despite the
>anger of 9-11 , generally we were not discriminated , burned or
>killed. Plus few of our community kids became valedictorians, admitted
>in professional schools on merit and kept their jobs except few cases
>of discrimination here and there cannot be ruled out.
How can a few cases of revenge killing can hope to reach the level of
holocaust inflicted on poor Bengalis. Furthermore, most valedictorians
are by and large Indians as are almost all Rhodes Scholars from US who
are from subcontinent or have such parents.
Only place today where kid learning Arabic will be looked up will be
in Harlem or such neighborhood. But at your income leve,l it will
surprise no one.
>Bush came on TV and shamed common Ameriacns to take it on innocent
>Muslim. While Modi and avani planned and perpetrated Indian mulsim
>genocide from the chief Minister’s house. It shows you how immature
>Indian nation is.
What you fail to mention is the fact that Bush family makes tons of
money from Saudi Arabia and had bin Laden family flown away from the
US after 9/11 at taxpayers expense, something Modi wouldn't even dream
of doing.
>>> Urdu and English mostly but regional languages are coming up also.
>>
>>Tell me where and how it is happening? Are Kashmiris introduced to
>>written word through Kashmiri, are Balochis introduced to written word
>>through Balochi?
>
>It is job of kashmiris, Balcohis , Punjabis and Pathans to do it. No
>Urdu speaking is going to motivate them to promote their regional
>languages. While we are on it, Punjab has already started promoting
>Punjabi and Pathans Pushto. few more years and these languages will
>have a big come back. watch it Gujarati Brahmin or Banyaa neighbor.
When we have a free Karachi, it may come to pass lot sooner. You guys
can go back to living with your long lost cousins for all we care.