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Salman SHAMI

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Dec 13, 1993, 10:51:11 PM12/13/93
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I am counting the number of ULLU KA PATHAS on this newsgroup. Some are Hindus and
some are Muslims. You should all unite because apart from a difference in
religion you both are very alike. ULLU KA PATHAS. How do I know ? because
unfortunately I am one too. I am a Pakistani but try not to be an ULLU KA PATHA.
You must be ULLU KA PATHAS if you squabble over stoooooooopid things like the
kabba and whether there is a light in it or if hindus worship dogs or not. Then
some god forsaken moron discusses the merits/demerits of fucking Pakistani/Indian
women.
Sheesh won't you ever wake up and smell the roses. You are both alike. If you
disagree then prove it and behave like human beings. Look at any other
soc.culture newsgraoup in the whole damn fucking world and you wont see a bigger
bunch of totally buggered dimwits and losers any where and that is a guarantee.
I will immediately apologize profoundly to all those whom I have inadvertedly
included in this generalization and who are a bit more sane.

The message for all arseholes on soc.culture.pakistan and soc.culture.india is to
stop making fools of yourselves and bloody well grow up. Most on these newsgroups
are supposed to be educated and thus they represent the hopes and aspirations of
their parents and countryfolk. That is a responsibility not to be taken lightly.

Leave religion for your mosques and temples and for your personal lives and
concentrate on building your countries.


I do not read these newsgroups since I have better things to do but when I do I
am bitterly disappointed so please send any opinions positive or negative to my
email address.

Salman SHAMI


p.s: excuse my coarse language, I am angry.

Haroon H. Dogar

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Dec 14, 1993, 9:46:22 AM12/14/93
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I've heard this expression before ..... and I don't get it.
What does it mean? "wing of an owl?" Why is the wise old owl derogatory?

Sorry for the trivial post. One of the shortcomings of learning my Urdu/Punjabi
at home is that I'm clueless about street expressions and vulgarities.
-Haroon

TUFAIL JAWAID

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Dec 14, 1993, 2:50:25 PM12/14/93
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In article <dogar.755880382@orchid19>,

I think it is best to use this phrase in Punjabi which is Ullu Da Patha
or in short UDP.
JD

Asim Chowdhry

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Dec 15, 1993, 10:28:03 AM12/15/93
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>From rainbow.cse.nau.edu!CS.Arizona.EDU!organpipe.uug.arizona.edu!uunet!munnari.oz.au!cs.mu.OZ.AU!sungear.mame.mu.OZ.AU!salman Wed Dec 15 08:21:43 MST 1993
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YES!!, I second that. I dont know what is the f**king problem with these ppl

Yet another angry person.
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Faiz Syed

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Dec 15, 1993, 11:38:37 AM12/15/93
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> >Salman SHAMI
> >
> >p.s: excuse my coarse language, I am angry.
> >
> YES!!, I second that. I dont know what is the f**king problem with these ppl
>
> Yet another angry person.
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> Asim Chowdhry


Aaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


You stole words from my mouth.
Another angry dude!

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Mercenary Programmer

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Dec 15, 1993, 11:20:33 AM12/15/93
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In article <AKGOEL.93D...@after.math.uwaterloo.ca>,

anil k goel <akg...@after.math.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:

> I've heard this expression before ..... and I don't get it.
> What does it mean? "wing of an owl?"

>son of an owl... Along the lines of "son of a bitch", "son of a gun"...

I would say that "son of a bitch" refers more to the moral character
of the person being referred to, whereas "ullu ke pathe" addresses the
mental capability (or lack thereof) of the person involved. Also,
"son of a gun" is far less derogatory.

minh...@ucbeh.san.uc.edu

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Dec 15, 1993, 12:31:19 PM12/15/93
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i totally agree, i think ullu da patha is much more appropriate. the way one
accents the syllables of this phrase in punjabi brings out the full meaning and
tenor of what is trying to be said, contrast ullu ke pathe in urdu with ullu da
patha in punjabi.....

why is it that manoj ghayalod has suddenly popped up in my head?

zafar

anil k goel

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Dec 15, 1993, 2:03:15 PM12/15/93
to Mercenary Programmer

Yes, of course... It was not my intention to suggest that all three phrases
are equivalent in terms of their derogatory value. I was only trying to
illustrate the use of the word "pattha" to mean "son" as opposed to "wing".
"Ullu ke (or de) patthe" tends to be used as a "sweet" gaali far more often
than it is used as an abusive phrase. It is not uncommon to see men
addressing their own sons as "ulle ke patthe" :-)...

-anil

TUFAIL JAWAID

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Dec 15, 1993, 3:35:05 PM12/15/93
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In article <AKGOEL.93D...@after.math.uwaterloo.ca>,

anil k goel <akg...@after.math.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
>In article <2endgh...@life.ai.mit.edu> gwy...@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Mercenary Programmer) writes:
>
> anil k goel <akg...@after.math.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
>
> > I've heard this expression before ..... and I don't get it.
> > What does it mean? "wing of an owl?"
>
> >son of an owl... Along the lines of "son of a bitch", "son of a gun"...
>
> I would say that "son of a bitch" refers more to the moral character
> of the person being referred to, whereas "ullu ke pathe" addresses the
> mental capability (or lack thereof) of the person involved. Also,
> "son of a gun" is far less derogatory.
>
>Yes, of course... It was not my intention to suggest that all three phrases
>are equivalent in terms of their derogatory value. I was only trying to
>illustrate the use of the word "pattha" to mean "son" as opposed to "wing".
>"Ullu ke (or de) patthe" tends to be used as a "sweet" gaali far more often
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

"Sweet Gali". I don't think so. If you don't agree with me, try using it
on a punjabi fellow and see the reaction.
JD

Ahson M. Umar

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Dec 15, 1993, 5:17:19 PM12/15/93
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In article <2endgh...@life.ai.mit.edu> gwy...@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Mercenary Programmer) writes:
______________________________________
If the literal meaning of "son of a gun" is taken then it is far more
derogatory than "luu ka Patha." The expression "son of a gun" was used
to refer to those children who were born to prostitutes who were kept
on board naval vessels and who had children while they were on ship.
Since the father of the child could not be determined (because of lack
of DNA testing) the child was referred to as "son of the gun."

>
>



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anil k goel

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Dec 15, 1993, 10:21:47 PM12/15/93
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In article <CI3Fu...@cnsnews.Colorado.EDU> tuf...@spot.Colorado.EDU (TUFAIL JAWAID) writes:

anil k goel <akg...@after.math.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
>
>Yes, of course... It was not my intention to suggest that all three phrases
>are equivalent in terms of their derogatory value. I was only trying to
>illustrate the use of the word "pattha" to mean "son" as opposed to "wing".
>"Ullu ke (or de) patthe" tends to be used as a "sweet" gaali far more often
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>than it is used as an abusive phrase. It is not uncommon to see men

"Sweet Gali". I don't think so. If you don't agree with me, try using it


on a punjabi fellow and see the reaction.

Umm... me thinks Tufail did not read the complete sentence. I didn't say it
is _always_ used as a sweet gaali... And, yes, I've used it several times
while talking to my Punjabi friends. Of course, I won't accost a stranger
and call him "ulle de patthe"...

-anil


Basalat Ali Raja

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Dec 16, 1993, 2:39:14 PM12/16/93
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In article <AKGOEL.93D...@after.waterloo.edu>,

anil k goel <akg...@after.waterloo.edu> wrote:
>Of course, I won't accost a stranger
>and call him "ulle de patthe"...

Hmm.. Maybe we should use that when people on the street
accost us and tell us we're Ayrab terrorists. :-)

TUFAIL JAWAID

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Dec 16, 1993, 3:43:52 PM12/16/93
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In article <CI3Fu...@cnsnews.colorado.edu>,
TUFAIL JAWAID <tuf...@spot.Colorado.EDU> wrote:
>In article <AKGOEL.93D...@after.math.uwaterloo.ca>,

>anil k goel <akg...@after.math.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
>>In article <2endgh...@life.ai.mit.edu> gwy...@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Mercenary Programmer) writes:
>>
>> anil k goel <akg...@after.math.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
>>
>> > I've heard this expression before ..... and I don't get it.
>> > What does it mean? "wing of an owl?"
>>
>> >son of an owl... Along the lines of "son of a bitch", "son of a gun"...
>>
>> I would say that "son of a bitch" refers more to the moral character
>> of the person being referred to, whereas "ullu ke pathe" addresses the
>> mental capability (or lack thereof) of the person involved. Also,
>> "son of a gun" is far less derogatory.
>>
>>Yes, of course... It was not my intention to suggest that all three phrases
>>are equivalent in terms of their derogatory value. I was only trying to
>>illustrate the use of the word "pattha" to mean "son" as opposed to "wing".
>>"Ullu ke (or de) patthe" tends to be used as a "sweet" gaali far more often
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>
>"Sweet Gali". I don't think so. If you don't agree with me, try using it
>on a punjabi fellow and see the reaction.
>JD

Actually I wnated to say any Pakistani fellow. Punjabis are little more hot-
headed.
JD

anil k goel

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Dec 16, 1993, 6:47:43 PM12/16/93
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Nah... For someone who does that, I've got more suitable phrases in
Hindi/Urdu (ulle de patthe is too benign)...

anil k goel

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Dec 14, 1993, 2:37:18 PM12/14/93
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In article <dogar.755880382@orchid19> do...@rtsg.mot.com (Haroon H. Dogar) writes:

I've heard this expression before ..... and I don't get it.
What does it mean? "wing of an owl?"

son of an owl... Along the lines of "son of a bitch", "son of a gun"...

Zaheer Mahmood

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Dec 23, 1993, 9:55:12 AM12/23/93
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yeah me too.
If you like igniting the flames in the good olmy-religion-is-better-than-
yours debate then maybe alt.flame is a better place to do so.

or maybe you could raise the issue at the next meeting of your
hindu/muslim society . Its would at least keep the s**t out of this group!
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