REAL JATT VS FAKE JAAT
S Singh Sandhu
Kishore Joshi wrote in message <6tu8e0$l...@Bayou.UH.EDU>...
>In article <6tqudf$k85...@id4.nus.edu.sg>,
>S Singh Sandhu <tom...@liquidnet.com> wrote:
>>The greatest Maharaja Ranjit Singh was a jatt.. he was a Sandhu ...
>
>
They're abt par on what they achieved.
>Are you implying Ranjit Singh was greater than Guru Nanak?
>I don't think so and I wish you don't either...
>
>
>In any case, the greatest emperor in Indian history
>(Pakistani, too although these idiots will never accept it) was
>Samudragupta.
>
>And this is what the history books say, greatest being defined in the sense
>of "Largest land mass ruled over".
>
>"Samudragupta is considered as one of the greatest rulers in Indian
>history. He is also compared to Alexander or Napoleon as a
>conqueror. He performed Ashwamedha Yajna (horse sacrifice)
>after defeating nine kings in the north and twelve kings in the south
>to underline the importance of his conquest of almost the whole of
>India. He also assumed the title of Maharajadhiraja (King of
>Kings) and Chakravartin (Universal Monarch)."
>(from http://www.itihaas.com/ancient/samudragupta.html)
>
>"....When
>he died his mighty empire bordered with Kushana of Western province
>(modern Afganistan and Pakistan) in north and Vakatakas in
>Deccan (todays southern Maharashtra)."
>(from http://www.med.unc.edu/~nupam/Sgupta1.html)
>
>Of course this is not to steal the credit from Maharaja Ranjit SIngh
>who dealt with the formidable and barbaric enemies like the Afghans and
Moghuls
>,neither is it meant
>as a "chest-thumping exercise" for the glory of the"Hindu" kings.
>
>
>Being a history buff, I like to point out facts and clarify them
>and get clarified too, if someone can substantiate it.
>
>
>>Kishore Joshi wrote in message <6tou67$e...@Bayou.UH.EDU>...
>>>Was Guru Nanak a Jatt?
>>>Was Guru Gobind a Jatt?
>>>Was Banda Bahadur a Jatt?
>>>
>>>
>>>Keep thinking about these while you thump your chest.......
>>>
>>>In article <6toqm1$akp$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, <sikh...@hotmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>ONLY THE JATTS OF EAST PUNJAB ( SIKHS JATTS ) AND
>>>>THE JATTS OF WEST PUNJAB ( MUSLIM JATTS ) ARE REAL JATTS.
>>>>THE JAATS OF HARYANA ARE FAKE JAATS. THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY
>>>>ATTRIBUTES OF REAL JATTS. JATTS ARE PROSPEROUS ZAMINDAARS AS IN BOTH
>>>>PUNJABS AND NOT PEASANT CRUDE AND RUDE ANIMALS JAATS AS FOUND IN
HARYANA.
>>>>JATTS ALSO FORM THE BACKBONE OF BOTH ARMIES.( SOMEONE EMAILED ME
>>>>IN MY PREVIOUS POST AND CORRECTED ME AND THE SPELLING IS JATT
>>>>BUT THE SPELLING OF THE TRASH HARYANVI HINDU THIEVES IS JAAT WITH DOUBLE
>>AA )
>>>>
>>>>REAL JATTS ARE THE MOST DYNAMIC PEOPLE ON THE SUBCONTINENT.
>>>>THE JATTS OF INDIA PUNJAB HAVE MORE IN COMMON WITH JATTS OF
>>>>PAKISTAN THAN WITH REST OF HINDOOSTAN. JATTS ARE CRUCIAL TO SUSTAINING
>>>>SIKHISM IN HINDOOSTAN AND IMPORTANT PART OF HINDOOSTAN ARMY
>>>>AND PAKISTANI JATTS ARE A FORCE TO BE RECKONED WITH IN PAKISTAN
>>>>POLITICS AND MILITARY.
>>>>
>>>>OTHER RACES LIKE RAJPUTS AND KHATRI ASPIRE TO
>>>>BE LIKE JATTS AND ACCEPTED BY THEM BUT THEY ARE VERY DIFFERENT.
>>>>I ASSUME THE SAME APPLIES TO PAKISTAN.
>>>>THEY DONT HAVE THE ENERGY OR SPIRIT OF JAATS WHO ARE TRUE SONS
>>>>OF SOIL AND ARE PROUD FEROCIOUS WARRIORS. THEY LIVE IN STYLE AND HAVE
>>CLASS.
>>>>OTHERS DONT. THEY ARE ALSO VERY HARDWORKING AND INNOVATIVE.
>>>>
>>>>SIKHAMBO
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>###############################################
>>>>SAT-SRI-AKAL !!
>>>>VICTORY TO KHALSA !!
>>>>RAJ KAREGA KHALSA AAKEE RAHEE NA KOI
>>>>NEVER MESS WITH SIKHS
>>>>################################################
>>>>
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S Singh Sandhu
father was a jat.
Surinder Dhillon wrote in message <360223FC...@gssec.bt.co.uk>...
>A question for you all:
>
>If someone who was not a jat(farmer), bought land in india and farmed it
>and lived off it like what jats do in panjab for a living, will that
>person become a jat???
>
>And if a jat sells his land, and works in a restaurant, will his caste
>change???
>
>If castes define our roles in work, surely as our roles change, shouldnt
>they change? it doenst make sense if they dont.
>Thanks.
>
>And please, brother sikhambo, must you write in capital letters? Not
>only is it harder to read..it is also very RUDE. Thank you.
>
>regards,
>Surinder Kaur (not Singh as everyone keeps assuming).
Bikham
>
> The greatest Maharaja Ranjit Singh was a jatt.. he was a Sandhu ...
Ch. Rajinder NIJJHAR
may know what type of people are there in your tribe.
We Jatts are normally not foul-mouthed unless someone forces us.
Ch. Rajinder Nijjhar, M.Sc.
A Jat of the United Greater Panjab,
Mussallmaan of Pir Nanak Shah,
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Kwanza wrote in message ...
>SIKHAMBO,
>Jat of the superior kind here is a message for you.
>har bhund wich paa key chek mar lah ke to JAAT HAI
>Kwanzaa
>=============
>
>
>In article <6toqm1$akp$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, sikh...@hotmail.com wrote:
>Junk deleted
Kwanza
<bargain...@dnet.co.uk> wrote:
chudanhar rajinder jee,
har tah bund wich paloh pahela phir gal karo ke tusi Jaat ho. je jaat see
ta wahee karde. tarkhah kaam kau keta.
Let le ask you nicely . if you are a jaat then do the land tilling like
your tribesmen did. why soil your hand and ass with the work of a craftsman
like a mettalurgist. When you became a mettalurgist you renounced the tribe
of jaat. so why dont you now go and take the ashka pillar up yours.
All you can call me is a bastard but you have not input anything on the
discussion other than that the FUCKING JAATs are the best. It shows look at
what is happening its is your kind of stupid mentallity people who are
rushing around plaing with the AK 47. You should also play with one of
those may be as you have that big ass and an access to being the most ANAL
person on the net use it (AK 47) up yours as well.
You jatts are never foul mouthed. As you are the retired lecturar of
mettalurgy may be a piece of metal is still stuck up yours. Go and have
that removed first. then come and talk. if you want to chat then forget the
tribes. you are nothing but one big ass hole.
Kwanzaa
================================
Human of the world.
> If you dared to be foul-mouthed, then give your tribal identity so that we
> may know what type of people are there in your tribe.
>
> We Jatts are normally not foul-mouthed unless someone forces us.
>
> Ch. Rajinder Nijjhar, M.Sc.
> A Jat of the United Greater Panjab,
> Mussallmaan of Pir Nanak Shah,
>
S Singh Sandhu
Perpindervir Singh
: Religion is folly speaks for itself.. it's just a means of division , we'd
: be better off without any religion.
: Perpindervir Singh wrote in message <6tu47s$jpg$1...@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>...
: >S Singh Sandhu (tom...@liquidnet.com) wrote:
: >: Guru Nanak used to say "All names are folly" , well actually "All
: religion
: >: is folly"
: >
: >
: > Care to extrapolate on "All religion is folly?"
: >
: >Perpinder Singh
An opinion to which you are, of course, entitled to however
I disagree. I could point out why I disagree, but since this would
lead to a debate based almost purely on opinion and devoid of facts,
I think we would be wasting our time. I am entitled to my opinion and
I would be a fool if I put restrictions on other individual's opinions.
Perpinder Singh
S Singh Sandhu
at temples of the various faiths being defaceds burned and torn down , so
why doesn't their so called god prevent them .. it's pretty obvious that
religion is crock.
Perpindervir Singh wrote in message <6u2bf4$eai$3...@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>...
Ch. Rajinder NIJJHAR
be writing such abuses. Mostly these people are Julahae/Moochi who after
going to schools think that they are lords and mistreat the Jatts who looked
after them.
Ch. Rajinder NIJJHAR
Kishore Joshi wrote in message <6tu8e0$l...@Bayou.UH.EDU>...
>In article <6tqudf$k85...@id4.nus.edu.sg>,
>>The greatest Maharaja Ranjit Singh was a jatt.. he was a Sandhu ...
>
>
>I don't think so and I wish you don't either...
>
Satguru Nanak Dev Ji, the Second anointed Christ, was a Spiritual Doctor
needed not by Jatts but the Khatris, the great cheats/dishonest people.
Rajnjit Singh Sandhu was a MOORAKH Jatt.
>
>In any case, the greatest emperor in Indian history
>(Pakistani, too although these idiots will never accept it) was
>Samudragupta.
>
What was his tribe please?
>And this is what the history books say, greatest being defined in the sense
>of "Largest land mass ruled over".
>
>"Samudragupta is considered as one of the greatest rulers in Indian
>history. He is also compared to Alexander or Napoleon as a
>conqueror. He performed Ashwamedha Yajna (horse sacrifice)
>after defeating nine kings in the north and twelve kings in the south
>to underline the importance of his conquest of almost the whole of
>India. He also assumed the title of Maharajadhiraja (King of
>Kings) and Chakravartin (Universal Monarch)."
>(from http://www.itihaas.com/ancient/samudragupta.html)
>
>"....When
>he died his mighty empire bordered with Kushana of Western province
>(modern Afganistan and Pakistan) in north and Vakatakas in
>Deccan (todays southern Maharashtra)."
>(from http://www.med.unc.edu/~nupam/Sgupta1.html)
>
>Of course this is not to steal the credit from Maharaja Ranjit SIngh
>who dealt with the formidable and barbaric enemies like the Afghans and
Moghuls
>,neither is it meant
>as a "chest-thumping exercise" for the glory of the"Hindu" kings.
If your Samudragupta was a Hindu, do you think Ranjit Singh, a Jatt was not
a Hindu?
Tell the tribal identity of Samudragupta, if you proclaim him a Hindu.
Dhoti/Bodi/Jaeno does not make a person Hindu but who reveals his tribal
identity.
>
>
>Being a history buff, I like to point out facts and clarify them
>and get clarified too, if someone can substantiate it.
>
>
>>Kishore Joshi wrote in message <6tou67$e...@Bayou.UH.EDU>...
>>>Was Guru Nanak a Jatt?
>>>Was Guru Gobind a Jatt?
>>>Was Banda Bahadur a Jatt?
>>>
>>>
>>>Keep thinking about these while you thump your chest.......
>>>
>>>In article <6toqm1$akp$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, <sikh...@hotmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>ONLY THE JATTS OF EAST PUNJAB ( SIKHS JATTS ) AND
>>>>THE JATTS OF WEST PUNJAB ( MUSLIM JATTS ) ARE REAL JATTS.
>>>>THE JAATS OF HARYANA ARE FAKE JAATS. THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY
>>>>ATTRIBUTES OF REAL JATTS. JATTS ARE PROSPEROUS ZAMINDAARS AS IN BOTH
>>>>PUNJABS AND NOT PEASANT CRUDE AND RUDE ANIMALS JAATS AS FOUND IN
HARYANA.
>>>>JATTS ALSO FORM THE BACKBONE OF BOTH ARMIES.( SOMEONE EMAILED ME
>>>>IN MY PREVIOUS POST AND CORRECTED ME AND THE SPELLING IS JATT
>>>>BUT THE SPELLING OF THE TRASH HARYANVI HINDU THIEVES IS JAAT WITH DOUBLE
>>AA )
>>>>
>>>>REAL JATTS ARE THE MOST DYNAMIC PEOPLE ON THE SUBCONTINENT.
>>>>THE JATTS OF INDIA PUNJAB HAVE MORE IN COMMON WITH JATTS OF
>>>>PAKISTAN THAN WITH REST OF HINDOOSTAN. JATTS ARE CRUCIAL TO SUSTAINING
>>>>SIKHISM IN HINDOOSTAN AND IMPORTANT PART OF HINDOOSTAN ARMY
>>>>AND PAKISTANI JATTS ARE A FORCE TO BE RECKONED WITH IN PAKISTAN
>>>>POLITICS AND MILITARY.
>>>>
>>>>OTHER RACES LIKE RAJPUTS AND KHATRI ASPIRE TO
>>>>BE LIKE JATTS AND ACCEPTED BY THEM BUT THEY ARE VERY DIFFERENT.
>>>>I ASSUME THE SAME APPLIES TO PAKISTAN.
>>>>THEY DONT HAVE THE ENERGY OR SPIRIT OF JAATS WHO ARE TRUE SONS
>>>>OF SOIL AND ARE PROUD FEROCIOUS WARRIORS. THEY LIVE IN STYLE AND HAVE
>>CLASS.
>>>>OTHERS DONT. THEY ARE ALSO VERY HARDWORKING AND INNOVATIVE.
>>>>
>>>>SIKHAMBO
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>###############################################
>>>>SAT-SRI-AKAL !!
>>>>VICTORY TO KHALSA !!
>>>>RAJ KAREGA KHALSA AAKEE RAHEE NA KOI
>>>>NEVER MESS WITH SIKHS
>>>>################################################
>>>>
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>>>
>> Ch. Rajinder Nijjhar, M.Sc.
A Jat of the United Greater Panjab,
Mussallmaan of Pir Nanak Shah,
Gnostics are the living christs (satgurus) and NOT Christians, of Living
Allah (Spirit),
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>>
>
>
Ch. Rajinder NIJJHAR
What tribe is this great Perpindervir Singh?
Watch he could be a satanic Khatri, who normally conceal their tribal
identity for satanic propaganda.
Always identify yourself with surname/tribe.
Ch. Rajinder Nijjhar, M.Sc.
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Mussallmaan of Pir Nanak Shah,
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Allah (Spirit),
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S Singh Sandhu wrote in message <6tv2ps$76...@id4.nus.edu.sg>...
Ch. Rajinder NIJJHAR
to reveal your tribal identity when talking.
Ch. Rajinder Nijjhar, M.Sc.
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Mussallmaan of Pir Nanak Shah,
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sikh...@hotmail.com wrote in message <6trdmq$8d0$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>In article <6tpqe8$fcd$1...@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>,
> spat...@unixg.ubc.ca (Perpindervir Singh) wrote:
>>The above is meant to be a reprimand from an
>> older brother, not an attack on you personally. If you want to discuss
>> this issue privately, feel free to email me.
>>
>
>
>WADDE SIKH VEERJEE
>
> PAREE PAINAA
>
> SAT-SRI-AKAL
>
> JO TWADA HUKUM. E LALLE ZALIM NE SO BE CAREFUL
> OF THEIR INFLUENCE. SIKHISM IS MY RELIGION
> ( NUMBER ONE ) AND JATT IS MY TRIBE ( CHEEMA JATT MIGRATED FROM
PAK.).
> I AM PROUD OF BOTH. BOTH ISSUES ARE IMPORTANT TO ME.
> I SHOULD HAVE KEPT BOTH ISSUES SEPERATE ( I TRIED TO )
> AND APOLOGISE IF IT APPEARED THAT MIXED BOTH THE ISSUES.
> TRIBALISM IS A FACT OF LIFE CANT RUN AWAY FROM IT.
> HOWEVER SIKHISM IS SUPREME AND ABOVE ALL THIS. NO QUESTION.
> I KNOW I SHOULD NOT MIX ISSUES AMONGST US AND NOT
> GIVE MANIPULATIVE LALLAS A CHANCE TO EXPLOIT THIS.
> MY HEART FELT APOLOGIES AND REGRETS.
>
> RESPECTFULLY
> SIKHAMBO ( THE JAAT SIKH RAMBO )
>
>--
>###############################################
>SAT-SRI-AKAL !!
>VICTORY TO KHALSA !!
>RAJ KAREGA KHALSA AKEE RAHEE NA KOI !!
>JO BOOLE SO NIHAAL SAT-SRI-AKAL !
Ch. Rajinder NIJJHAR
necessarily a Jat. He could be a Khatri/Saini/Arian, etc.
Ch. Rajinder Nijjhar, M.Sc.
A Jat of the United Greater Panjab,
Mussallmaan of Pir Nanak Shah,
Gnostics are the living christs (satgurus) and NOT Christians, of Living
Allah (Spirit),
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S Singh Sandhu wrote in message <6tv3ic$75...@id4.nus.edu.sg>...
Kishore Joshi
>In article <6tpaft$b...@Bayou.UH.EDU>,
> kjo...@Bayou.UH.EDU (Kishore Joshi) wrote:
>> In article <6tp8rh$t6t$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, <sikh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Care to elaborate where these gems of fundamental
>> analysis poured from?
>
> MY EXPERIENCE,EDUCATION AND VIEWS . KHATRI SIKHS ARE GREAT SIKHS
> KHATRI HINDUS ARE SCUM. THESE ARE THE BASTARDS WHO PROVOKE SIKHS
And if your education taught you to blindly hate people because of
what family they were bought up; I can only pray to God that there
are minimum number of you guys out there.
BTW, your experience can only mean that is your opinion, does not
mean squat in my book and I don't care about what you think about it.
One man's views can hardly be taken as a token of character of an
entire community.
> ALL THE TIME. BY THE WAY THIS WAS NOT BEFORE THE PARTITION
> WHEN THE KHATRIS NEEDED THEM THE ATTITUDE LIKE A TYPICAL SCUM
> HINDOO CHANGED WHEN THE MUSLIM THREAT DISAPPEARED IN PUNJAB.
> HOWEVER WHEN THERE IS A WAR THESE GUYS START PRAISING THE
> VIRTUES OF SIKHS. THESE GUYS ARE SO JEALOUS THAT THEY HAD TO MODEL
> DURGIANA MANDIR ON GOLDEN TEMPLE IN AMBARSAR TO PROVOKE SIKHS.
> YOU CANT MATCH THE SIKHS AS LONG AS YOU REMAIN HINDOOS.
>
>> Moreover,
>> why is it that you JAATS have such a low opinion of
>> Bappa Sardars? Are they not Khatris? Are they not SIkhs?
>
> I DONT HAVE ANY SUCH OPINION. YOU ARE BRINGING IT TO FORE
> SO THAT LIKE A TYPICAL HINDOO YOU TRY TO CREATE DIVISIONS
> AMONG SIKHS.
I know how much unity SIkhs have here in Houston and wish them the best...
>
>> How many Jatt-Khatri (both Sikh) weddings do you find?
>> How many Jatt-Mazhabi (both Sikh) weddings do you find?
>> How many Jatt-Tarkhan (both Sikh) weddings do you find?
>> Give me %'s not random examples.
>
> IF YOU KNOW BETTER YOU POST IT I DONT HAVE THE STATISTICS
Close to nil! So much so for unity and universal brotherhood.
> AND I DONT CARE ABOUT IT. SIKHS ARE SIKHS IN MY OPINION
> WHETHER BE A JAAT OR KHATRI. BUT A KHATRI SIKH (WHEAT) IS DEFINATELY NOT
> A KHATRI HINDOO.( CHAFF )
>
>
>> Can you ever imagine the CM of Punjab to be a Bappa?
>
> WOULD BE GREAT. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. WOULD
> BRING IN BETTER ECONOMIC MANAGEMENT.
>
>> Although Sikhism started with equality of beings
>> you guys have folded back to square one by putting down
>> one against the other, not just one religion against another but
>> with rifts between your own religion.
>
> NO HINDOO. THATS WHAT YOU WANT AND THATS HOW YOU RULE.
> IF YOU CANT BEAT THEM DIVIDE THEM !
You have no idea of what I want :
I want complete unity between all religions, I have problem with
those people who randomly start hating other people because of their
caste/birth/race.....
>
> COME BACK TO THE MAIN THEME. JATT SIKHS ARE TRUE JATTS
> HARYANVI JAATS ARE CRUDE RUDE THIEVES.
Your opinion!......
>
> SIKHAMBO
>
>> >
>> > I AM TALKING ABOUT THE PRESENT.
>> > AND IF YOU BOTH THE KHATRI KHOSLA AND
>> > WHOEVER YOU ARE READ IT CAREFULLY I AM COMPARING
>> > JATTS WITH JAATS ( THE HINDOO TRASH ) AND NON JATTS
>> > WITH EMPHASIS ON HINDOO KHATRIS. THAT IS THE FOCUS
>> > OF THE POST NOT SIKHISM. PLEASE DONT PLAY HINDOO DIVERSIONARY
>> > TRICKS.
>> >
>> > SIKHAMBO ( THE JATT SIKH RAMBO )
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >In article <6tou67$e...@Bayou.UH.EDU>,
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>> >> >SAT-SRI-AKAL !!
>> >> >VICTORY TO KHALSA !!
>> >> >RAJ KAREGA KHALSA AAKEE RAHEE NA KOI
>> >> >NEVER MESS WITH SIKHS
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J.S. Bains
: Although Sikhism started with equality of beings
: you guys have folded back to square one by putting down
: one against the other, not just one religion against another but
: with rifts between your own religion.
Precisely and well said.
-sunny
J.S. Bains
: The greatest Maharaja Ranjit Singh was a jatt.. he was a Sandhu ...
He was a jat alright but I'm not sure if he was a sandhu.
No one knows for sure, the only known "fact" is that he was from the
Sukerchak missal. The Sukerchakia's that I know are sohi's.
-sunny
Surinder Dhillon
I'm from indian ancestry, from panjab, and a sikh, thats all i care
abuot in terms of my 'tribe'. Associating status to people when they
are born is twisted (which is what is done by associating yourself with
a tribe). We are all humans, all born free, and dont deserved to be put
into boxes.
You could argue, people in scotland are from certain tribes..ie
mcgregors, mackies etc, but that doesnt associated high or low to them,
as obviously being indian does.
Surinder.
> >regards,
> >Surinder Kaur (not Singh as everyone keeps assuming).
>
> Surinder Kaur of which tribal identity?
>
> Or no tribe?
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S Singh Sandhu
ramk...@imap3.asu.edu
high on Viagra and is providing me lot of entertainment! Cause right
from Guru Nanak... Sikhism tried to get over casteism kind of thinking.
Oh well... Buddha was against idol worhisp and we have Buddhist Temples
with little Buddhas and Big Buddhas!
Perpindervir Singh (spat...@unixg.ubc.ca) wrote:
: Addressed to Sikhambo:
: Listen you misguided fool,
: I appreciate the fact that you are proud
: of being a Sikh but pride alone is nothing.
: The fact that you are harping about Jatts and other castes is
: an indication that you in fact know nothing about Sikhi. I doubt if
: you would have made such absurd and embarrasingly stupid remarks if
: you understood the significance of Baisakhi.
: As well, who are you to say that you are better than Hindus? Or
: that Punjabi Jatts are better than Harayanvi Jatts (you jackass, they
: spell Jatt as Jaat simply due to pronunciation)? Or that Sikhs
: are better than Hindus? Have you forgotten what the Gurus have
: taught us? "Hum nayee chungay, bora nayee koay" - "I am not good,
: noone else is bad (rough translation)."
: Have a good look at yourself and how much about Sikh you know
: before you going knocking down people on un-Sikh like principles such
: as caste.
: Perpinder Singh
: ***you sound like a zealous, young individual but your lack of knowledge
: concerning Sikhi makes you look foolish in posts like the above. Moreover,
: claiming to be a Sikh and making anti-Sikh remarks like the above are, to
: be honest, disgusting. The above is meant to be a reprimand from an
ramk...@imap3.asu.edu
what wars did to people. And we need these temples to fight over ;-)
S Singh Sandhu (tom...@liquidnet.com) wrote:
: So you actually think god is going to save you if you pray to him? Just look
: at temples of the various faiths being defaceds burned and torn down , so
: why doesn't their so called god prevent them .. it's pretty obvious that
: religion is crock.
: Perpindervir Singh wrote in message <6u2bf4$eai$3...@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>...
: >S Singh Sandhu (tom...@liquidnet.com) wrote:
: >: Religion is folly speaks for itself.. it's just a means of division ,
: we'd
: >: be better off without any religion.
: >: Perpindervir Singh wrote in message <6tu47s$jpg$1...@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>...
: >: >S Singh Sandhu (tom...@liquidnet.com) wrote:
: >: >: Guru Nanak used to say "All names are folly" , well actually "All
: >: religion
: >: >: is folly"
: >: >
: >: >
: >: > Care to extrapolate on "All religion is folly?"
: >: >
: >: >Perpinder Singh
: >
: >
: > An opinion to which you are, of course, entitled to however
Perpindervir Singh
: So you actually think god is going to save you if you pray to him? Just look
: at temples of the various faiths being defaceds burned and torn down , so
: why doesn't their so called god prevent them .. it's pretty obvious that
: religion is crock.
Whether God saves me or not, is between God and myself. Do
I beleive a God exists? Of course I do. Can you disprove that
there is a God? If so, I look forward to reading your reply.
Note that now that we're on the topic of disproving, opinions
will not suffice - I'd like to read facts disproving there is God.
Good Luck.
Perpinder Singh
p.s. Saying that God doesn't exist because "I haven't seen him" is
a grade three reply so please refreain from using that logic. You
also have not seen the air in Antarctica but it most definitely exists.
Perpindervir Singh
: This thread is about Jatt tribe and not the Sikh Panth or community.
: What tribe is this great Perpindervir Singh?
Well, I'm not really that great but thanks for the
compliment.
: Watch he could be a satanic Khatri, who normally conceal their tribal
: identity for satanic propaganda.
Or I could be Satan himself. Boo! Did I scare you?
: Always identify yourself with surname/tribe.
I must have missed that rule in the netiquette handbook.
Perpinder Singh
sikh...@hotmail.com
NO , I NEVER SAID GURUS WERE JATT.
THEY WERE GREAT KHATRIS OF THEIR TIME.
SIKH KHATRI ARE GREAT KHATRIS. I HAVE
PROBLEM WITH HINDOO KHATRIS. GURU GOBIND SINGH DID GREAT
TO ADD SINGH TO THEIR LAST NAME OF KHATRIS AND HENCE
SEPERATED THE CHAFF ( HINDOO) FROM THE WHEAT (SIKH )
I AM TALKING ABOUT THE PRESENT.
AND IF YOU BOTH THE KHATRI KHOSLA AND
WHOEVER YOU ARE READ IT CAREFULLY I AM COMPARING
JATTS WITH JAATS ( THE HINDOO TRASH ) AND NON JATTS
WITH EMPHASIS ON HINDOO KHATRIS. THAT IS THE FOCUS
OF THE POST NOT SIKHISM. PLEASE DONT PLAY HINDOO DIVERSIONARY
TRICKS.
SIKHAMBO ( THE JATT SIKH RAMBO )
In article <6tou67$e...@Bayou.UH.EDU>,
kjo...@Bayou.UH.EDU (Kishore Joshi) wrote:
RAJ KAREGA KHALSA AKEE RAHEE NA KOI
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Brijnandan Singh Dehiya
Any other jokes in your inventory, kid?
Brij
----
Kishore Joshi
Was Guru Gobind a Jatt?
Was Banda Bahadur a Jatt?
Keep thinking about these while you thump your chest.......
In article <6toqm1$akp$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, <sikh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Kishore Joshi
> THEY WERE GREAT KHATRIS OF THEIR TIME.
> SIKH KHATRI ARE GREAT KHATRIS. I HAVE
> PROBLEM WITH HINDOO KHATRIS. GURU GOBIND SINGH DID GREAT
> TO ADD SINGH TO THEIR LAST NAME OF KHATRIS AND HENCE
> SEPERATED THE CHAFF ( HINDOO) FROM THE WHEAT (SIKH )
Care to elaborate where these gems of fundamental
analysis poured from?
Moreover,
why is it that you JAATS have such a low opinion of
Bappa Sardars? Are they not Khatris? Are they not SIkhs?
How many Jatt-Khatri (both Sikh) weddings do you find?
How many Jatt-Mazhabi (both Sikh) weddings do you find?
How many Jatt-Tarkhan (both Sikh) weddings do you find?
Give me %'s not random examples.
Can you ever imagine the CM of Punjab to be a Bappa?
Although Sikhism started with equality of beings
you guys have folded back to square one by putting down
one against the other, not just one religion against another but
with rifts between your own religion.
>
> I AM TALKING ABOUT THE PRESENT.
> AND IF YOU BOTH THE KHATRI KHOSLA AND
> WHOEVER YOU ARE READ IT CAREFULLY I AM COMPARING
> JATTS WITH JAATS ( THE HINDOO TRASH ) AND NON JATTS
> WITH EMPHASIS ON HINDOO KHATRIS. THAT IS THE FOCUS
> OF THE POST NOT SIKHISM. PLEASE DONT PLAY HINDOO DIVERSIONARY
> TRICKS.
>
> SIKHAMBO ( THE JATT SIKH RAMBO )
>
>
>
>
>In article <6tou67$e...@Bayou.UH.EDU>,
> kjo...@Bayou.UH.EDU (Kishore Joshi) wrote:
>RAJ KAREGA KHALSA AKEE RAHEE NA KOI
>##############################################
>
vkh...@questra.com
be Sikh, since all of your Guru's were Khatri! When you insult Khatri's you
insult your own Guru and your religion you ignorant fool! How can you claim
to be Sikh when your views are exactly opposite of those of Guru Nanak Dev ji
and the Guru Granth Sahib. Please read the Guru Granth Sahib so you may gain
some sense. I can see that all are equal in the eyes of God, you can only see
hatred because you are blind, my friend!
sikh...@hotmail.com
WHERE DID I INSULT KHATRI ? I WOULD NEVER INSULT
SIKH KHATRI ANYWAY. NOW SHOW ME HOW AND WHERE I
INSULTED KHATRI . DONT MAKE THINGS UP. MAYBE YOU
PERCIEVE SOMETHING BEYOND THE REALM OF HUMANS !
SIKHAMBO ( THE NIHANG JATT SIKH RAMBO )
In article <6tp0lo$ir2$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
RAJ KAREGA KHALSA AKEE RAHEE NA KOI
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Ch. Rajinder NIJJHAR
Jats are known to Jats and who are you talking about our Jat tribe?
Jats of the Panjab are a bit clever as they live among the clever Khatris
and had to deal with their tricks. These Khatris invaded the House of
Satguru Nanak Dev Ji whilst the Owner of His House Satguru Tegh Bahadur Ji
was still alive and these satanic Khatris put up 22 imposter satgurus at
Baba Bakala.
Using common sense or Surti, what damage they have done to Sikhism after the
demise of Satguru Tegh Bahadur Ji? Imposter satgurus took many forms:-
BHAED DIKHAYAE JAGAT KO; LOGAN KO BAS KEEN,
and went around villages cheating the simpletons. These Lalas have a very
very degrading background and the sensible people should be careful of them.
There goes a saying:-
KHATRI PUTRUM KISSAE NAA MITRUNG,
MITRUNG HI MITRUNG, DAGGAH DITRUM.
Sheiks are the worst form of these Lalas. Baloch, Pathans and Jats will
look after them in Pakistan whilst Jats in the Panjab.
Ch. Rajinder Nijjhar, M.Sc.
A Jat of the United Greater Panjab,
Mussallmaan of Pir Nanak Shah,
Gnostics are the living christs (satgurus) and NOT Christians, of Living
Allah (Spirit),
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sikh...@hotmail.com wrote in message <6toqm1$akp$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
sikh...@hotmail.com
> older brother, not an attack on you personally. If you want to discuss
> this issue privately, feel free to email me.
>
WADDE SIKH VEERJEE
PAREE PAINAA
SAT-SRI-AKAL
JO TWADA HUKUM. E LALLE ZALIM NE SO BE CAREFUL
OF THEIR INFLUENCE. SIKHISM IS MY RELIGION
( NUMBER ONE ) AND JATT IS MY TRIBE ( CHEEMA JATT MIGRATED FROM PAK.).
I AM PROUD OF BOTH. BOTH ISSUES ARE IMPORTANT TO ME.
I SHOULD HAVE KEPT BOTH ISSUES SEPERATE ( I TRIED TO )
AND APOLOGISE IF IT APPEARED THAT MIXED BOTH THE ISSUES.
TRIBALISM IS A FACT OF LIFE CANT RUN AWAY FROM IT.
HOWEVER SIKHISM IS SUPREME AND ABOVE ALL THIS. NO QUESTION.
I KNOW I SHOULD NOT MIX ISSUES AMONGST US AND NOT
GIVE MANIPULATIVE LALLAS A CHANCE TO EXPLOIT THIS.
MY HEART FELT APOLOGIES AND REGRETS.
RESPECTFULLY
SIKHAMBO ( THE JAAT SIKH RAMBO )
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SAT-SRI-AKAL !!
VICTORY TO KHALSA !!
RAJ KAREGA KHALSA AKEE RAHEE NA KOI !!
JO BOOLE SO NIHAAL SAT-SRI-AKAL !
Perpindervir Singh
Listen you misguided fool,
I appreciate the fact that you are proud
of being a Sikh but pride alone is nothing.
The fact that you are harping about Jatts and other castes is
an indication that you in fact know nothing about Sikhi. I doubt if
you would have made such absurd and embarrasingly stupid remarks if
you understood the significance of Baisakhi.
As well, who are you to say that you are better than Hindus? Or
that Punjabi Jatts are better than Harayanvi Jatts (you jackass, they
spell Jatt as Jaat simply due to pronunciation)? Or that Sikhs
are better than Hindus? Have you forgotten what the Gurus have
taught us? "Hum nayee chungay, bora nayee koay" - "I am not good,
noone else is bad (rough translation)."
Have a good look at yourself and how much about Sikh you know
before you going knocking down people on un-Sikh like principles such
as caste.
Perpinder Singh
***you sound like a zealous, young individual but your lack of knowledge
concerning Sikhi makes you look foolish in posts like the above. Moreover,
claiming to be a Sikh and making anti-Sikh remarks like the above are, to
be honest, disgusting. The above is meant to be a reprimand from an
S Singh Sandhu
>Was Guru Gobind a Jatt?
>Was Banda Bahadur a Jatt?
>
>
>Keep thinking about these while you thump your chest.......
>
>>THE JATTS OF WEST PUNJAB ( MUSLIM JATTS ) ARE REAL JATTS.
>>THE JAATS OF HARYANA ARE FAKE JAATS. THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY
>>ATTRIBUTES OF REAL JATTS. JATTS ARE PROSPEROUS ZAMINDAARS AS IN BOTH
>>PUNJABS AND NOT PEASANT CRUDE AND RUDE ANIMALS JAATS AS FOUND IN HARYANA.
>>JATTS ALSO FORM THE BACKBONE OF BOTH ARMIES.( SOMEONE EMAILED ME
>>IN MY PREVIOUS POST AND CORRECTED ME AND THE SPELLING IS JATT
>>BUT THE SPELLING OF THE TRASH HARYANVI HINDU THIEVES IS JAAT WITH DOUBLE
AA )
>>
>>REAL JATTS ARE THE MOST DYNAMIC PEOPLE ON THE SUBCONTINENT.
>>THE JATTS OF INDIA PUNJAB HAVE MORE IN COMMON WITH JATTS OF
>>PAKISTAN THAN WITH REST OF HINDOOSTAN. JATTS ARE CRUCIAL TO SUSTAINING
>>SIKHISM IN HINDOOSTAN AND IMPORTANT PART OF HINDOOSTAN ARMY
>>AND PAKISTANI JATTS ARE A FORCE TO BE RECKONED WITH IN PAKISTAN
>>POLITICS AND MILITARY.
>>
>>OTHER RACES LIKE RAJPUTS AND KHATRI ASPIRE TO
>>BE LIKE JATTS AND ACCEPTED BY THEM BUT THEY ARE VERY DIFFERENT.
>>I ASSUME THE SAME APPLIES TO PAKISTAN.
>>THEY DONT HAVE THE ENERGY OR SPIRIT OF JAATS WHO ARE TRUE SONS
>>OF SOIL AND ARE PROUD FEROCIOUS WARRIORS. THEY LIVE IN STYLE AND HAVE
CLASS.
>>OTHERS DONT. THEY ARE ALSO VERY HARDWORKING AND INNOVATIVE.
>>
>>SIKHAMBO
>>
>>###############################################
>>SAT-SRI-AKAL !!
>>VICTORY TO KHALSA !!
>>NEVER MESS WITH SIKHS
>>
>>-----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==-----
>>http://www.dejanews.com/rg_mkgrp.xp Create Your Own Free Member Forum
>
>
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kjo...@Bayou.UH.EDU (Kishore Joshi) wrote:
> In article <6tp8rh$t6t$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, <sikh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > NO , I NEVER SAID GURUS WERE JATT.
> > THEY WERE GREAT KHATRIS OF THEIR TIME.
> > SIKH KHATRI ARE GREAT KHATRIS. I HAVE
> > PROBLEM WITH HINDOO KHATRIS. GURU GOBIND SINGH DID GREAT
> > TO ADD SINGH TO THEIR LAST NAME OF KHATRIS AND HENCE
> > SEPERATED THE CHAFF ( HINDOO) FROM THE WHEAT (SIKH )
>
> Care to elaborate where these gems of fundamental
> analysis poured from?
MY EXPERIENCE,EDUCATION AND VIEWS . KHATRI SIKHS ARE GREAT SIKHS
KHATRI HINDUS ARE SCUM. THESE ARE THE BASTARDS WHO PROVOKE SIKHS
ALL THE TIME. BY THE WAY THIS WAS NOT BEFORE THE PARTITION
WHEN THE KHATRIS NEEDED THEM THE ATTITUDE LIKE A TYPICAL SCUM
HINDOO CHANGED WHEN THE MUSLIM THREAT DISAPPEARED IN PUNJAB.
HOWEVER WHEN THERE IS A WAR THESE GUYS START PRAISING THE
VIRTUES OF SIKHS. THESE GUYS ARE SO JEALOUS THAT THEY HAD TO MODEL
DURGIANA MANDIR ON GOLDEN TEMPLE IN AMBARSAR TO PROVOKE SIKHS.
YOU CANT MATCH THE SIKHS AS LONG AS YOU REMAIN HINDOOS.
> Moreover,
> why is it that you JAATS have such a low opinion of
> Bappa Sardars? Are they not Khatris? Are they not SIkhs?
I DONT HAVE ANY SUCH OPINION. YOU ARE BRINGING IT TO FORE
SO THAT LIKE A TYPICAL HINDOO YOU TRY TO CREATE DIVISIONS
AMONG SIKHS.
> How many Jatt-Khatri (both Sikh) weddings do you find?
> How many Jatt-Mazhabi (both Sikh) weddings do you find?
> How many Jatt-Tarkhan (both Sikh) weddings do you find?
> Give me %'s not random examples.
IF YOU KNOW BETTER YOU POST IT I DONT HAVE THE STATISTICS
AND I DONT CARE ABOUT IT. SIKHS ARE SIKHS IN MY OPINION
WHETHER BE A JAAT OR KHATRI. BUT A KHATRI SIKH (WHEAT) IS DEFINATELY NOT
A KHATRI HINDOO.( CHAFF )
> Can you ever imagine the CM of Punjab to be a Bappa?
WOULD BE GREAT. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. WOULD
BRING IN BETTER ECONOMIC MANAGEMENT.
> Although Sikhism started with equality of beings
> you guys have folded back to square one by putting down
> one against the other, not just one religion against another but
> with rifts between your own religion.
NO HINDOO. THATS WHAT YOU WANT AND THATS HOW YOU RULE.
IF YOU CANT BEAT THEM DIVIDE THEM !
COME BACK TO THE MAIN THEME. JATT SIKHS ARE TRUE JATTS
HARYANVI JAATS ARE CRUDE RUDE THIEVES.
SIKHAMBO
> >
> > I AM TALKING ABOUT THE PRESENT.
> > AND IF YOU BOTH THE KHATRI KHOSLA AND
> > WHOEVER YOU ARE READ IT CAREFULLY I AM COMPARING
> > JATTS WITH JAATS ( THE HINDOO TRASH ) AND NON JATTS
> > WITH EMPHASIS ON HINDOO KHATRIS. THAT IS THE FOCUS
> > OF THE POST NOT SIKHISM. PLEASE DONT PLAY HINDOO DIVERSIONARY
> > TRICKS.
> >
> > SIKHAMBO ( THE JATT SIKH RAMBO )
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >In article <6tou67$e...@Bayou.UH.EDU>,
> > kjo...@Bayou.UH.EDU (Kishore Joshi) wrote:
> >RAJ KAREGA KHALSA AKEE RAHEE NA KOI
> >##############################################
> >
> >-----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==-----
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>
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> 1. Money is not the root of All Evil, It is the perceived lack of it....
>
>
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VICTORY TO KHALSA !!
RAJ KAREGA KHALSA AKEE RAHEE NA KOI
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S Singh Sandhu
is folly"
Perpindervir Singh
: is folly"
Surinder Dhillon
If someone who was not a jat(farmer), bought land in india and farmed it
and lived off it like what jats do in panjab for a living, will that
person become a jat???
And if a jat sells his land, and works in a restaurant, will his caste
change???
If castes define our roles in work, surely as our roles change, shouldnt
they change? it doenst make sense if they dont.
Thanks.
And please, brother sikhambo, must you write in capital letters? Not
only is it harder to read..it is also very RUDE. Thank you.
regards,
Kishore Joshi
Are you implying Ranjit Singh was greater than Guru Nanak?
I don't think so and I wish you don't either...
In any case, the greatest emperor in Indian history
(Pakistani, too although these idiots will never accept it) was
Samudragupta.
And this is what the history books say, greatest being defined in the sense
of "Largest land mass ruled over".
"Samudragupta is considered as one of the greatest rulers in Indian
history. He is also compared to Alexander or Napoleon as a
conqueror. He performed Ashwamedha Yajna (horse sacrifice)
after defeating nine kings in the north and twelve kings in the south
to underline the importance of his conquest of almost the whole of
India. He also assumed the title of Maharajadhiraja (King of
Kings) and Chakravartin (Universal Monarch)."
(from http://www.itihaas.com/ancient/samudragupta.html)
"....When
he died his mighty empire bordered with Kushana of Western province
(modern Afganistan and Pakistan) in north and Vakatakas in
Deccan (todays southern Maharashtra)."
(from http://www.med.unc.edu/~nupam/Sgupta1.html)
Of course this is not to steal the credit from Maharaja Ranjit SIngh
who dealt with the formidable and barbaric enemies like the Afghans and Moghuls
,neither is it meant
as a "chest-thumping exercise" for the glory of the"Hindu" kings.
Being a history buff, I like to point out facts and clarify them
and get clarified too, if someone can substantiate it.
>Kishore Joshi wrote in message <6tou67$e...@Bayou.UH.EDU>...
Kwanza
Jat of the superior kind here is a message for you.
har bhund wich paa key chek mar lah ke to JAAT HAI
Kwanzaa
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In article <6toqm1$akp$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, sikh...@hotmail.com wrote:
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sikh...@hotmail.com
> And please, brother sikhambo, must you write in capital letters? Not
> only is it harder to read..it is also very RUDE. Thank you.
>
> regards,
> Surinder Kaur (not Singh as everyone keeps assuming).
>
surinder bahenji my sikh sister
sat-sri-akal
I will write in lower case.
rab twanuu kushhal rakhe
respectfully
sikhambo
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SAT-SRI-AKAL !!
VICTORY TO KHALSA !!
RAJ KAREGA KHALSA AKEE RAHEE NA KOI !!
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Ch. Rajinder NIJJHAR
Surinder Dhillon wrote in message <360223FC...@gssec.bt.co.uk>...
>A question for you all:
>
>If someone who was not a jat(farmer), bought land in india and farmed it
>and lived off it like what jats do in panjab for a living, will that
>person become a jat???
>
Unless a person is fathered by a person of Jat tribe, he cannot be a Jat.
People who do cultivation are farmer called KIRSAAN and those who own land
are called ZAMINDAAR.
JATT UH JAEHRRA JATT DI SATT HOWAE.
>And if a jat sells his land, and works in a restaurant, will his caste
>change???
>
No. Persons tribe does not change with profession. I as a lecturer was
doing the work of a Pandit but my caste remained the same.
>If castes define our roles in work, surely as our roles change, shouldnt
>they change? it doenst make sense if they dont.
>Thanks.
>
>And please, brother sikhambo, must you write in capital letters? Not
>only is it harder to read..it is also very RUDE. Thank you.
>
>regards,
>Surinder Kaur (not Singh as everyone keeps assuming).
Surinder Kaur of which tribal identity?
Or no tribe?
Ch. Rajinder Nijjhar, M.Sc.
S Singh Sandhu
be better off without any religion.
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Badkhalsa's pride
The small village of Badkhalsa has its name inscribed in the Sikh history in golden letters. The supreme sacrifice of an ancestor from here, Bhai Kushal, a follower of the ninth Sikh Guru, Guru Teg Bhadur, is something that this village will always be proud of. Bhai Kushal Singh of this village offered his head to fool the Mughals, who wanted to retrieve the head of the guru being taken to Anandpur Sahib by one of followers.
Each year, Badkhalsa, which was then known as Garhi, holds an annual memorial to remember Bhai Kushal, their ancestor, who ordered his son Bahadur to behead him. For he resembled Guru Teg Bahadur, he offered himself to be beheaded to befool the Mughal forces, so that the head of the guru could be taken to Anandpur Sahib for cremation. Villagers often organise religious functions and ‘nagar kirtans’ in the memory of the guru and Bhai Kushal.
Ram Chander Dahiya and Rajesh Dahiya, Badkhalsa residents, told The Tribune that after the selfless sacrifice of Bhai Kushal, Garhi was renamed Kushal Garhi and then it was named Badkhalsa. “There is no record of the direct lineage of Bhai Kushal, therefore the entire village considers itself a direct descendant of the martyr,” they said.
The Haryana Government has constructed a memorial in the name of Sri Guru Teg Bahadur in an area of around two acres on the GT Road.
History[edit]
Banda Singh Bahadur Memorial in Khanda
In 1709, Banda Singh Bahadur came here and raised his army and set up his first army headquarters with 500 sikhs to loot Mughal treasury and to free Punjab from tyranny of Mughals after getting blessings of Guru Gobind Singh. He defeated Mughals in the Battle of Sonepat and conquered it. Thereafter, he would go on to kill Mughal Governor (equivalent to chief minister) of Punjab, the richest and most powerful province of the Mughal Empire, inflicting biggest defeats to the Mughals, 17th century World super power, in their history.[3] Many history books says that Khanda was named after Mahabharata times Khandava Forest.
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Jat is also spelled as (jaat jatt jutt) is nasal community of origine lower indus velly of sindh punjab pakistan and northern india . Later migrate to haryana delhi up rajathan and rest of norther region of india.
होश मे आजा हम जाटो के बारे मे तू होता कोन हे लिखने आले चुडे के जान से मार दूंगा समझा ।
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Dont mess with jats. We respect all sikh gurus i know your caste started sikhism but a truth is also that Jats are the only nasal which developed sikhisim and we are 85 % in sikhs. We are warriors and farmer.
Brother dont be jealus respect them those are pure , truthfull honest
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nafz boi
> Jat (Jaat) is said Jatt in Punjabi only for awareness,and why are you spreading hate and For your kind information I tell you that Jat(Jaat)regiment double is wrong spelling and note that Jat regiment and write it on the YouTube bad check ,Do not spread hate between Jat and Jatt of PB ,and the confusion created by the Multani Punjab people who came ,will now not recognised,ok.
nafz boi
> ONLY THE JATTS OF EAST PUNJAB ( SIKHS JATTS ) AND
> THE JATTS OF WEST PUNJAB ( MUSLIM JATTS ) ARE REAL JATTS.
> THE JAATS OF HARYANA ARE FAKE JAATS. THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY
> ATTRIBUTES OF REAL JATTS. JATTS ARE PROSPEROUS ZAMINDAARS AS IN BOTH
> PUNJABS AND NOT PEASANT CRUDE AND RUDE ANIMALS JAATS AS FOUND IN HARYANA.
> JATTS ALSO FORM THE BACKBONE OF BOTH ARMIES.( SOMEONE EMAILED ME
> IN MY PREVIOUS POST AND CORRECTED ME AND THE SPELLING IS JATT
> BUT THE SPELLING OF THE TRASH HARYANVI HINDU THIEVES IS JAAT WITH DOUBLE AA )
> REAL JATTS ARE THE MOST DYNAMIC PEOPLE ON THE SUBCONTINENT.
> THE JATTS OF INDIA PUNJAB HAVE MORE IN COMMON WITH JATTS OF
> PAKISTAN THAN WITH REST OF HINDOOSTAN. JATTS ARE CRUCIAL TO SUSTAINING
> SIKHISM IN HINDOOSTAN AND IMPORTANT PART OF HINDOOSTAN ARMY
> AND PAKISTANI JATTS ARE A FORCE TO BE RECKONED WITH IN PAKISTAN
> POLITICS AND MILITARY.
> OTHER RACES LIKE RAJPUTS AND KHATRI ASPIRE TO
> BE LIKE JATTS AND ACCEPTED BY THEM BUT THEY ARE VERY DIFFERENT.
> I ASSUME THE SAME APPLIES TO PAKISTAN.
> THEY DONT HAVE THE ENERGY OR SPIRIT OF JAATS WHO ARE TRUE SONS
> OF SOIL AND ARE PROUD FEROCIOUS WARRIORS. THEY LIVE IN STYLE AND HAVE CLASS.
> OTHERS DONT. THEY ARE ALSO VERY HARDWORKING AND INNOVATIVE.
> SIKHAMBO
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