Why Nordic women have tiny breasts?
sldk...@ize.com
Jonas Carlsson
little of the body exposed.......:-)
Actually....what kind of question is this? I didn't think people had these
kind of thoughts any more. There are of course Swedish women with small
breasts and large (natural) breasts like women have anywhere in the world.
The same goes with beauty (which by the way is a very personal opinion).
/Jonas
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H.W.M.
sldk...@ize.com wrote:
> Nordic women are beautiful on average but they have tiny breasts, why is this?
Why do non-nordic women, who on average are beautiful ( if you like a moustache),
have sagging breasts then eh?
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Markku Huttu-Hiltunen
>
> Nordic women are beautiful on average but they have tiny breasts, why is this?
I dunno if this subject has really been studied scientificly, but
according to my, should I say "hands-on", experience, I agree: Generally
Finnish (or Nordic) have smaller breasts than their American sisters. I
recall someone explaining this phenomena with Irish influence: According
to this source Irish women have exeptionally large breasts, and so Irish
heritage of many Americans would explain this phenomena.
I'v also heard other explanations: Americans are generally more fat, do
more abortions, and have silicon implants. Then again, I'm not even sure
if the original claim is true (let alone other suggestions...).
MHH
Osmo Ronkanen
>Nordic women are beautiful on average but they have tiny breasts, why is this?
How scientific study have you made on the subject? The Americans prefer
large breasts so women with large breasts get more exposure on various
media. Also breast implants and other means to increase or emphasize the
breast size are therefore more popular.
Osmo
Lennart Regebro
>Nordic women are beautiful on average but they have tiny breasts, why is this?
Because nordic men usually tend to think that there are better things to
waste money on then breast implants.
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Snabel guy
>Why do non-nordic women, who on average are beautiful ( if you like a
moustache),
> have sagging breasts then eh?
Well, I guess you have been dating men
Miles Rømney
and Half Swedish respectively) heritages, and they both have GIANT gigglies,
but I would suggest that they have made significant investments in silicon
valley.
PockGockAmock
sldk...@ize.com wrote in message
<36449bfa...@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>...
>Nordic women are beautiful on average but they have tiny breasts, why is
this?
It has to do with the bears, the reindeers, the wolves, the elks and various
other wild beasts preying on innocent Wild Tall Blond Nordic Females in the
country. As the above mentioned animals are running after the above
mentioned persons, the only one who could survive were the fittest ones,
with less breasts, so they could run faster.
And besides, wolves would preferably run after the ones who were (meat
wise) more promissing.
PGa
el_f...@my-dejanews.com
>
The American male eh? I feel sorry for Nordic women, attracting such
attention. However, you are right. But, smaller breasts have larger nerve
endings and are therefore more sensual from the womans point of view. Us
Europeans don't go for the American tits and ass thing so much. Nowt wrong
with Nordic women or their perfectly formed breasts. The French say the
perfect breast fits nicely into a Champagne glass. Food for thought!
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Cindy Kandolf
| Nordic women are beautiful on average but they have tiny breasts, why is this?
They don't, actually. They have huge breasts which they strap down
just to annoy men like you.
Thought you'd like to know.
- Cindy Kandolf, certified language mechanic, mamma flodnak
flodmail: ci...@nvg.ntnu.no flodhome: Bærum, Norway
flodweb: http://www.nethelp.no/cindy/
PockGockAmock
eddie...@my-dejanews.com wrote in message
<726smj$5uf$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>In article <726d27$1km$1...@news3.Belgium.EU.net>,
> "PockGockAmock" <P...@compansid.be> wrote:
>>
>> sldk...@ize.com wrote in message
>> <36449bfa...@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>...
>> >Nordic women are beautiful on average but they have tiny breasts, why is
>> this?
>>
>> It has to do with the bears, the reindeers, the wolves, the elks and
various
>> other wild beasts preying on innocent Wild Tall Blond Nordic Females in
the
>> country. As the above mentioned animals are running after the above
>> mentioned persons, the only one who could survive were the fittest ones,
>> with less breasts, so they could run faster.
>>
>> And besides, wolves would preferably run after the ones who were (meat
>> wise) more promissing.
>No one here seems to have touched upon scientific theory for this
phenomenon,
My answer was m o s t scientific, if you please!
PGa
>so I'll venture a guess: It has everything to do with the digestion of
lactic
>acid and the synthesis of vitamin D from sunlight. So there!
Perttu Raivio
sldkfjsl>
sldkfjsl> Nordic women are beautiful on average but they have tiny breasts,
sldkfjsl> why is this?
I guess there's a shortage of silicon in the northern tundra.
--
Feminae, infantes atque illi qui Latine loqui possint antecedant!
Colin Rosenthal
el_f...@my-dejanews.com <el_f...@my-dejanews.com> wrote:
>In article <36449bfa...@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>,
> sldk...@ize.com wrote:
Maybe it makes for easier arm motions while skiing?
> The French say the
>perfect breast fits nicely into a Champagne glass. Food for thought!
Do you drink the champagne out first?
--
Colin Rosenthal
Per Erik Ronne
> sldk...@ize.com writes:
> > Nordic women are beautiful on average but they have tiny breasts, why
> > is this?
>
> They don't, actually. They have huge breasts which they strap down
> just to annoy men like you.
>
> Thought you'd like to know.
Perhaps they don't use silicone [breasts] as much as do American women?
--
Per Erik Rønne
E-mail xer...@diku.edu.dk
Homepage http://www.diku.dk/students/xerxes
Chris Hedemark
> Perhaps they don't use silicone [breasts] as much as do American women?
yet another helpless victim of the international syndication of
Baywatch.
Breast implants among the general populace is nowhere near as widespread
as movies and television would have you believe. Without getting into
too much detail about my methods, I am quite confident that American
women average a pretty healthy size naturally, with a bell curve
naturally creating some A or B cups, as well as D cups and up. I read
somewhere (seriously, not in some porno mag or something) that the
average bra sold in America is a 34C. I don't know if the sizing scale
is different in Europe (probably metric) but I assure you a 34C is
anything but "tiny".
Of course there are strippers and actresses that augment themselves to
reach ridiculous proportions, but that is not the norm.
--
Chris Hedemark
hede...@us.ibm.com
Markku Huttu-Hiltunen
>
> On Mon, 09 Nov 1998 12:58:02 GMT,
> el_f...@my-dejanews.com <el_f...@my-dejanews.com> wrote:
> >In article <36449bfa...@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>,
> > sldk...@ize.com wrote:
>
>
> > The French say the
> >perfect breast fits nicely into a Champagne glass. Food for thought!
>
> Do you drink the champagne out first?
>
IMO the perfect breasts fits nicely into my hand (but does not need to
be covered by my big hands). Glasses - I use them usually for drinking,
not for the French perversions. Thus for all of you American perverts:
One can get cigars humidiated also by un-biological ways.
MHH
Neil Savage
(Osmo Ronkanen) writes...
>In article <36449bfa...@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>, <sldk...@ize.com> wrote:
>>Nordic women are beautiful on average but they have tiny breasts, why is this?
>
>large breasts so women with large breasts get more exposure on various
>media. Also breast implants and other means to increase or emphasize the
>breast size are therefore more popular.
>
A suggestion: use a magnifying lens. Or wait until she starts
lactating. :-)
- neil
Neil Savage
<GD...@prodigy.net> writes...
>Pamela Anderson, as well as Anna-Nichole Smith, have Scandinavian (Danish
Before that there was Anita Ekberg. At least the name sounds
Scandinavian. Is this a new kind of ethnic female sterotyping?
How are we going to establish a statistical baseline? Bra sales?
Plaster casts? The number of non mastectomy-related requests for
implants? This seems like a subject mainly of interest to male
adolescents, and their over-aged counterparts.
What's the next subject? Why Nordic men have tiny penises?
- neil
Lennart Regebro
Lennart Regebro
>Why Nordic men have tiny penises?
We don't. We just have enough confidence so we don't have to brag about the
size all the time.
H.W.M.
Lennart Regebro wrote:
> Well, it IS kinda hard to tell the difference down south.
The problem is you have to be very straightforward and test under the skirt
for balls... atleast in Ibiza.
Alyssa Linn Palmer
"Moondust will Cover You..."
-BoWiE
Alys - alpa...@ucalgary.ca
> What's the next subject? Why Nordic men have tiny penises?
>
> - neil
>
>
Do they really? hehe
dar...@city.net
live attract many tourists) will tell you that breast size has nothing
to do with the country of origin. On the other hand there are those who
attach great significance to TV programs and particular films , as well
as others who have never been out of their block who could not possibly
compare breast sizes with no first hand experience.
Malin Eriksson
> sldk...@ize.com wrote:
>
> >Nordic women are beautiful on average but they have tiny breasts, why is this?
>
> Because nordic men usually tend to think that there are better things to
> waste money on then breast implants.
>
Silly me! I always thought nordic women had a say in what to put inside or outside
their breasts -- and a say in who should pay for all this...
Malin
Lennart! Om du inte är snäll cc:ar jag!
Perttu Raivio
el>
el> The French say the
el> perfect breast fits nicely into a Champagne glass. Food for thought!
I'm pretty sure the French don't say this. In France champagne
is served in a real champagne glass, not the American style
glass which resembles the coctail glasses used for drinks like
dry martinis.
A breast which fits nicely into a French champagne glass would
resemble a chili pepper instead of a melon...
--
"Too Much Is Always Better Than Not Enough"
- J.R. "Bob" Dobbs
SH
Miles Rømney wrote:
> Pamela Anderson, as well as Anna-Nichole Smith, have Scandinavian (Danish
> and Half Swedish respectively) heritages,
Well, according to Pamela her grandfather was a Finn.
PockGockAmock
SH wrote in message <3647FF7E...@sci.fi>...
>
>Miles Rømney wrote:
>
>> Pamela Anderson, as well as Anna-Nichole Smith, have Scandinavian (Danish
>> and Half Swedish respectively) heritages,
>
>Well, according to Pamela her grandfather was a Finn.
Any Finn will retort that the above said grandfather was swedish speaking.
PGa
PockGockAmock
Malin Eriksson wrote in message <3647FA63...@algonet.se>...
>Lennart Regebro wrote:
>
>> sldk...@ize.com wrote:
>>
>> >Nordic women are beautiful on average but they have tiny breasts, why is
this?
>>
>> Because nordic men usually tend to think that there are better things to
>> waste money on then breast implants.
>>
>
>Silly me! I always thought nordic women had a say in what to put inside or
outside
>their breasts -- and a say in who should pay for all this...
Not according to islamic law.
PGa
sldk...@ize.com
> What's the next subject? Why Nordic men have tiny penises?
I read that its due to the lower testosterone level.
PockGockAmock
sldk...@ize.com wrote in message <36483858...@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>...
>On 9 NOV 98 13:50:26 EST, sav...@tle.enet.dec.com (Neil Savage) wrote:
>
>> What's the next subject? Why Nordic men have tiny penises?
>
>I read that its due to the lower testosterone level.
Perhaps, but they have two of them each.
PGa
Markku Huttu-Hiltunen
>
> On 9 NOV 98 13:50:26 EST, sav...@tle.enet.dec.com (Neil Savage) wrote:
>
> > What's the next subject? Why Nordic men have tiny penises?
>
> I read that its due to the lower testosterone level.
Sorry to disappoint you, but this subject has been really studied (by
scientific research): Asian men have by far the smallest penises. The
middle-sized white American males have on averige smaller p:s than
Finnish males, for example.
MHH
uncloud...@my-dejanews.com
must be your big breasts.
In article <36483858...@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>,
sldk...@ize.com wrote:
> On 9 NOV 98 13:50:26 EST, sav...@tle.enet.dec.com (Neil Savage) wrote:
>
> > What's the next subject? Why Nordic men have tiny penises?
>
> I read that its due to the lower testosterone level.
>
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Lennart Regebro
>Lennart Regebro wrote:
>> Because nordic men usually tend to think that there are better things to
>> waste money on then breast implants.
>>
>
>Silly me! I always thought nordic women had a say in what to put inside or outside
>their breasts -- and a say in who should pay for all this...
Of course, it should say nordic people. Sorry, Malin.
>Malin
>Lennart! Om du inte är snäll cc:ar jag!
Då spammar jag dig!!! :)
Lennart Regebro
>On 9 Nov 1998, Neil Savage wrote:
>
>> What's the next subject? Why Nordic men have tiny penises?
>
>Do they really? hehe
Why don't you come over and check for yourself???
Miles Rømney
SH wrote in message <3647FF7E...@sci.fi>...
>
>
>Miles Rømney wrote:
>
>> Pamela Anderson, as well as Anna-Nichole Smith, have Scandinavian (Danish
>> and Half Swedish respectively) heritages,
>
>Well, according to Pamela her grandfather was a Finn.
Maybe if her name was Andernen. :)
Miles Rømney
Americans Latinos and Asians that are hung like mosquitos.
Kari Yli-Kuha
>
> Alyssa Linn Palmer <alpa...@ucalgary.ca> wrote:
>
> >On 9 Nov 1998, Neil Savage wrote:
> >
> >> What's the next subject? Why Nordic men have tiny penises?
> >
> >Do they really? hehe
>
> Why don't you come over and check for yourself???
You could check first e.g.
http://dialspace.dial.pipex.com/town/plaza/gb54/web11p-98.htm, where
it say among other things:
<quote>
The use of fecundability in epidemiological surveys
Alfred Spira
[...]
Using previously published studies from Finland and his own data from Britain,
this author [Joffe, M., Villard, L., Li, Z. et al.. (1995)] could show that
the comparison of TTP [Time to Pregnancy] distributions supported the hypothesis
that Finnish men are more fertile than British men.
[...]
</quote>
So, perhaps it's not the question of quantity,, but quality?
/Kari
Robert Virding
>Nordic women are beautiful on average but they have tiny breasts, why is this?
Yes, isn't it wonderful?
--
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Jan Böhme
>
> In article <36449bfa...@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>, <sldk...@ize.com> wrote:
> >Nordic women are beautiful on average but they have tiny breasts, why is this?
>
> large breasts so women with large breasts get more exposure on various
> media. Also breast implants and other means to increase or emphasize the
> breast size are therefore more popular.
Omygod. I make a brief checkout of the group for the first time in like
half a year, and what's the fitst thing I see? A large thread devoted to
the physical features of Nordic women. Some things never change. And I
contribute...
This time someone demands why they have small breasts. Oddly enough,
Osmo seems to be the only one to question the veracity of this notion.
Nordic women may have smaller breasts than American women if 34C is
indeed the most common American bra size. I read somwhere that 75B (the
comparison can be done just by converting metrics to inches) is the
Swedish type size. However, Scandinavian women are not particularly
unbosomy when compared, for example, to Frenchwomen.
Also, if 34 C is the type size, I can see an explanation other than
implants to this American bustiness. 34 inches under the bust
corresponds to a bit over 86 centimeters, and to a Swedish bra size of
85, i suppose.
To have bra size 85 is considered rather, err, full-bodied in Sweden. Of
course you _can_ measure 85 centimetres under the bust just by having a
very broad and athletic back, but most gals with this size are rather on
the plump side, I daresay.
Breasts, especially big ones, consist largely of fat, remember? I very
much suspect that _among size 85_, the C-cup is the most frequent also
in Sweden.
So the reason Nordic women have smaller breasts than American women are
because they are, on average, _leaner_.
Satisfied?
--
Jan Böhme
(who is quite satisfied with the size of his wife's bosom, thank you
very much.)
Miles Rømney
>>Nordic women are beautiful on average but they have tiny breasts, why is
this?
>
>Yes, isn't it wonderful?
Finally!!! The voice of reason!
H.W.M.
> Jan Böhme
> (who is quite satisfied with the size of his wife's bosom, thank you
> very much.)
Let us say if you were not and your wife read the posting you might get some marital
problems?
Jan Böhme
>
> "Jan Böhme" wrote:
>
> > Jan Böhme
> > (who is quite satisfied with the size of his wife's bosom, thank you
> > very much.)
>
> Let us say if you were not and your wife read the posting you might get some marital
> problems?
1) My wife isn't what you would normally call Usenet literate.
2) Had I been not, chivalry, rather than fear, would have inclined me
not to touch the subject at all in a Usenet posting.
It was, after all, only moderately warranted by the context :-)
Jan Böhme
Philippe Gaunet
Miles Rømney a écrit:
ehemin...@my-dejanews.com
Jan Böhme <jan....@REMOVE.THIS.sh.se> wrote:
> Osmo Ronkanen wrote:
> >
> > In article <36449bfa...@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>, <sldk...@ize.com>
wrote:
this?
> >
> > large breasts so women with large breasts get more exposure on various
> > media. Also breast implants and other means to increase or emphasize the
> > breast size are therefore more popular.
>
> Omygod. I make a brief checkout of the group for the first time in like
> half a year, and what's the fitst thing I see? A large thread devoted to
> the physical features of Nordic women. Some things never change. And I
> contribute...
>
> This time someone demands why they have small breasts. Oddly enough,
> Osmo seems to be the only one to question the veracity of this notion.
>
> Nordic women may have smaller breasts than American women if 34C is
> indeed the most common American bra size. I read somwhere that 75B (the
> comparison can be done just by converting metrics to inches) is the
> Swedish type size. However, Scandinavian women are not particularly
> unbosomy when compared, for example, to Frenchwomen.
it looks like the original poster was:
6449bfa....@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca
so why aren't you comparing with canadian women's breast size?
ehemin...@my-dejanews.com
hede...@us.ibm.com wrote:
> Per Erik Ronne wrote:
>
> > Perhaps they don't use silicone [breasts] as much as do American women?
>
> yet another helpless victim of the international syndication of
> Baywatch.
>
> Breast implants among the general populace is nowhere near as widespread
> as movies and television would have you believe. Without getting into
> too much detail about my methods, I am quite confident that American
> women average a pretty healthy size naturally, with a bell curve
> naturally creating some A or B cups, as well as D cups and up. I read
Are your sampling statistics unbiased?
>--
>
> Chris Hedemark
> hede...@us.ibm.com
Pete
>"Zephyos" <XXXg...@dot.net.au> wrote:
>
>>>>>Nordic women are beautiful on average but they have tiny breasts,
why is
>>>this?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Finally!!! The voice of reason!
>>>
>>
>>
this
>>news group!
>>
>>
>Yes, isn't it wonderful?
Lennart Regebro
>>>>Nordic women are beautiful on average but they have tiny breasts, why is
>>this?
>>>
>>>Yes, isn't it wonderful?
>>
>>
>>Finally!!! The voice of reason!
>>
>
>
>This is the lamest topic and the longest thread I have ever seen in this
>news group!
>
>
Yes, isn't it wonderful?
--
Pete
>>>>Nordic women are beautiful on average but they have tiny breasts,
why is
>>this?
>>>
>>>Yes, isn't it wonderful?
>>
>>
>>Finally!!! The voice of reason!
>>
>
>
>This is the lamest topic and the longest thread I have ever seen in
this
>news group!
>
Philippe Gaunet
Zephyos a écrit:
Philippe Gaunet
Zephyos
Miles Rømney
>This is the lamest topic and the longest thread I have ever seen in this
>news group!
Its better than looking at your toenails on the bathroom floor.
Kari Yli-Kuha
ehemin...@my-dejanews.com kirjoitti viestissä <72i6ph$qlc$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
:In article <36498A...@REMOVE.THIS.sh.se>,
: Jan Böhme <jan....@REMOVE.THIS.sh.se> wrote:
...
:> Nordic women may have smaller breasts than American women if 34C is
:> indeed the most common American bra size. I read somwhere that 75B (the
:> comparison can be done just by converting metrics to inches) is the
:> Swedish type size. However, Scandinavian women are not particularly
:> unbosomy when compared, for example, to Frenchwomen.
:
: it looks like the original poster was:
:6449bfa....@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca
:
:so why aren't you comparing with canadian women's breast size?
So? Canadian women are American.
/Kari
... all the names in this article have been forged to protect the innocent ...
Lennart Regebro
Whistler
Osmo Ronkanen wrote in message <724tfv$a...@kruuna.Helsinki.FI>...
this?
>
>large breasts so women with large breasts get more exposure on various
>media. Also breast implants and other means to increase or emphasize the
>breast size are therefore more popular.
>
Breast implants in America have become extremely popular. In one
year, 1997, breast implant surgeries increased by about 40%. It
is not generally appreciated that this has actually changed the appearance
of certain population groups in the country, but it is possibly true. Some
formerly small breasted women are seeking
to become huge breasted. People are noticing for instance how many large
breasted Asian American women there are now, but Asians were formerly known
for being small breasted. Recent
surveys suggest that the average breast size in America has gone
from a B cup to a C cup. The standard explanation for this is that
women have simply gotten plumper, but this explantion fails to account for
the fact that the *increase* in average body fat is not
*dramatic* enough to explain such a marked expansion in overall
breast size (going from a B-cup to a C-cup amounts to a near *doubling* of
breast volume). A better explanation is that the country
is simply feeling the cumulative effects of breast augmention.
This is the problem with saying that Nordic women have smaller
breasts. Perhaps this is not a genetic or natural thing at all, but is
caused by the tendency to compare them with a group of women
that have been artificially altered to have bigger breasts. Perhaps
Nordic women are simply more natural.
Chris Hedemark
> Pamela Anderson, as well as Anna-Nichole Smith, have Scandinavian (Danish
> and Half Swedish respectively) heritages, and they both have GIANT gigglies,
> but I would suggest that they have made significant investments in silicon
> valley.
Pam was well endowed naturally, but didn't become very famous until
*after* her giant implants were put in place. I think she was more
attractive before she started augmenting her body and shaving her
eyebrows off.
--
Chris Hedemark
hede...@us.ibm.com
Darkman
thread. It just ain't true. Maybe it should be changed to "Nordic
women's breast size" or something.
khann
>ehemingweigh wrote:
> >Jan Böhme wrote:
> > > Nordic women may have smaller breasts ...
> >it looks like the original poster was:
> >6449bfa....@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca
> >so why aren't you comparing with canadian women's breast size?
> So? Canadian women are American.
>
_That_ is a mortal insult, much like saying "Finns are Russians."
Kari Yli-Kuha
> Kari Yli-Kuha wrote:
> > So? Canadian women are American.
> >
> _That_ is a mortal insult, much like saying "Finns are Russians."
How? You mean that Patagonians aren't American either?
/Kari
yvind Seland
This is getting more and more off topic, but I think a
rant made by a Canadian in another newsgroup describes the situation
well.
The background is that a US lawyer wrote to the author of
this rant to warn him that he should obey the law, or
he would risk getting sued. US law that is.
Ųyvind Seland
Part of rant follows
Do you really imagine in your wildest dreams that this has anything
to do with a Canuck like me. Go to a world atlas.
Flip through the first 78 pages pages devoted to Yankiedoodleland.
On the 79th page you will find the one and only page devoted to an
obscure little county (well, actually it's larger than the US,
including Alaska, by about the size of Texas) of 30 million souls
a little to the North of you. Trace your finger up California.
Now, see you come to a place called "Oregon". Neat, huh? Yes,
Oregon. I know you've never heard of it and you're all curious and
excited, but keep going. Now you come to a place called Seattle.
I don't know; Suquamish? Keep going up. You see that line at the
"49th parallel"? No, never mind what a "parallel" is. Yes, I know
that's a big word, but do you see it? Well, everything to the north
of that line is a different country. Neat, huh? Yes, that's not the
USA. No, it is still is in North America. No, we don't really call
ourselves Americans, as that word has been tainted a bit and taken
over by some other country. We call ourselves Canucks. Yes, that
is the name of a hockey team. Now, Helena, this is going to come
as a bit of a shock to you. Just sit still for a minute. Yes, I
know you're all excited at the thrill of discovery. But Helena,
that place north of that line has *it's own laws*. Yes, it does!
And it's own constitution. It even has it's own bill of rights.
No, this bill of rights is a little different than the one you
heard they have down there in the USA. No, I don't know if we
ignore our bill of rights as much as you Yanks do. What does that
mean? It's a term we sometimes call people from the USA. No, it
doesn't mean we hate you. Now, Helena, don't cry! No, all the world
doesn't really hate "Americans", er, USians; we're just confused
about what to call you. I mean, people from France are called
French, people from Australia are called Australians, people
from Canada are called Canadians, but what do you call people
from the US? My sister says Staties; I'm not sure what to call
you. Why not use "Americans"? Well, the Americas are a large
geographical area, Helena. Calling you "Americans" would be like
calling people from Algeria "Africans"; it's a bit generic, don't
you think? Some people in other countries call Canadians "Americans",
not to insult us, but because we live in America. North America,
to be precise. So, Helena, now you've had this little lesson in
geography, do you see how silly and pointless it is to send the
decision from some, er, Statian judge up to a back-bacon eating,
beer-swilling Canuck like me, eh?
khan
>
> khann wrote:
> > Kari Yli-Kuha wrote:
> > > So? Canadian women are American.
> > >
> > _That_ is a mortal insult, much like saying "Finns are Russians."
>
> How? You mean that Patagonians aren't American either?
>
I used the "Finns are Russians" example in hopes that it would be
self-explanatory. After all, Finland was once part of the Russian
empire. But we all know that inclusion within such a broad geographical
entity provides neither useful nor accurate descriptions of the people
living there. Nationality is a complex mixture of geography, history,
religion, and language. More often than not, nationality is a state of
mind. So Finns are not Russians.
When my grandfather brought his family from Denmark to North America, he
did so with the clear purpose of them becoming Canadians, and _not_
becoming Americans. Previously, he had lived in both Canada and the
U.S.A. and, as an intelligent man, he understood that there were
important differences between the two countries and their citizens. He
understood that these were primarily differences between the national
states of mind. So Canadians are not "Americans."
The "who is American" question is an old and oft-fought argument, and it
is all the fault of the Europeans who named the American continents with
such remarkable lack of originality. Geographically (and loosely) all
residents of the Americas (North, South & Central, plus the Caribbean
islands), including Canadians and Patagonians, are Americans of one sort
or another. Most (nearly all, or so it seems) "Usonians" (those from the
U.S.A.) believe that they have a divine monopoly on the use of the term
"America" & "American" and often denigrate any non-U.S.A. use of those
terms by others - thus, Hawaiians become Americans by default while
Cubans are not.
Many (not all) Latin Americans take umbrage with the Usonian monopoly of
the terms "America" & "American" in common international usage.
Non-Usonian North Americans (Canadians & Mexicans) seldom use the term
in connection with themselves unless used as "North American," the
better to differentiate from the Yanks/Yanquis. If the Yanks were
commonly (and politely) referred to as something other than Americans,
it would likely be polite to call the rest of us Americans, but this is
not the case, is it?
Thus, to be called an "American" is considered by most Canadians to be a
mortal insult.
khan
>
> This is getting more and more off topic, but I think a
> rant made by a Canadian in another newsgroup describes the situation
> well.
>
> The background is that a US lawyer wrote to the author of
> this rant to warn him that he should obey the law, or
> he would risk getting sued. US law that is.
>
Greetings Ųyvind
Thanks for that. Ranting is considered to be a political art form in
Atlantic Canada. What are the names of the newsgroup, thread and poster?
I'd like to look it up and read the whole exchange.
yvind Seland
NOTE FOLLOW-UP to alt.dev.null
Due to ARSCC(wdne) codex you have to find the name of the
poster yourself :-)
Hint. The author is the founder. He is from BC though.
Ųyvind
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology,alt.religion.scientology.xenu
Subject: Message for Helena Kobrin
Date: 30 Jun 1997 18:25:56 -0700
Henry
Does it mean that Danish-American women have one small breast and one
large one?:-
Henry
Miles Rømney
Only if Swedes do too. :)