Kasirimobi Nwuke's emerging ethnic entity
Reed...@aol.com
Ndeewo nu.
Someone just called my attention to some "emerging" issues, and Kas Nwuke's
latest salvo. Please pardon me if I do not have a full grip on other e-mails.
Also, do not reply to this address.
This weeklong sociocultural potpourri has taken us from titles to ethnicity to
linguistics and back to persons. Once again we are back to where we started:
SQUARE ONE. I learned a lot -- as always, but I am sorry to say that we shall
revisit the main kernel again: Is Dr. O. K. Nwuke Igbophobic? I think it is
about time we stopped sweeping it under the rug. It's a shame that this
weeklong volley brings us no closer to resolving the vexatious issue contained
therein, which Chinedu has rightly raised: Ndiigbo and the so-called "emerging
ethnic minorities," especially as PRESENTED by Kas Nwuke.
First, let me briefly respond to Kas Nwuke's "direct" (as opposed to
"indirect" (njakiri) - apology to Lolo Nkiru Nwaanyioma:
> To MOE:
>It took a 33 year old colonel to lead a people to war even though world
>opinion was against him. That 33 year old was Emeka Ojukwu. It took a 27
>year old son of a Jewish carpenter to change the way the world thinks of
>God and religion. It took......
ANSWER:
Without all due respect, Doc, you are no "Emeka Ojukwu" and, lest we
blaspheme, you are no Jesus of Nazareth either. And for historical accuracy,
His Excellency General Chukwuemeka Odumegwu-Ojukwu DID NOT lead a people to
war; he lead Biafran PEOPLES in war - in a wicked war waged on his people by
maniacs on genocidal impulses (apology to Kevin Ani). To these maniacs, AK-47s
were batons, planes flown by Euro mercenaries were helmets and Ferrets and
Saracens were bicycles.
You wrote:
>No society advances if all of its citizens dance to the same tune. Such a
>society is characterized by inertia and changelessness.
ANSWER:
Whatever! Ndiigbo "dance to the same tune"? Even in diaspora we are not all in
one WIC or "peoples club"! Wake up and chew some kolanuts, brother! Until you
show me a more dynamic and "dis-tuned" nation in Nigeria than the Igbo, you
can tell the tale to touring Tunisian Tuaregs!
Then you blew it:
>Your allegory fails in more ways than one should care to enumerate.
ANSWER:
Go ahead, enumerate just a score! My "allegory" was NOT directed at you. Maybe
it is a case of "a tua ilu nkanka nkata…." You tell us. What I presented was
what the Igbo call "ukabuilu" …. A "proverb" of sorts. I don't blame you for
misunderstanding the gist. When I presented "Onyeara Ogbete" -- actually in
response to the private cyberwar waged on me by Bolaji Aluko's defenders
during the Madiebo's book controversy - some netter swore that it was targeted
at him. Guess what, this fellah went on to prove beyond all reasonable doubts
that the hat might fit! If the cap fits in any way, shape or form, wear it.
Otherwise, I would savor the story as my input toward the advancement of OUR
Igbo legacy.
Kas, I don't operate a closed shop, or I would have said I know to whom the
"Rising Sun" label you threw about referred. You see what I mean? Now, let's
not go there. You are not "Nweke Ntioba"! My "Nweke" referred to a male
"Mgbeke" -- if you know what I mean. And don't ask me to swear by any deity.
As I have said, it fits, wear it and feel free to re-tell it any day and at
any time; it's part of our heritage.
Umuibe:
It is now clear to me that Kas Nwuke is only beginning to tell us where he is
coming from. Apparently Maazi Kevin Ani was right: Kas is of the school of
thought who don't give a hoot about Igbo nationalism. He is not alone; at
least he says so openly. Many profess "unity" but act provincial. I have been
a victim of such smooth sectionalists, and I detest dichotomy in all its
ramifications. I am forced to make this input because many people are soaking
in all the wrong vibes from these exchanges. I said Kas was not making it
easy, and I was right, but this does not mean he has to become "onyeigbo" to
say his mind about Ndiigbo ---after all, "truth is the daughter of tomorrow."
Right? What I asked for was just an occasional understanding of the feet in
shoes we don't wear.
Let's get it straight: someone (onyigbo?) criticized "Ndi Rivers" and Kas
swore revenge against Ndiigbo? Typical! This is what we preach against:
punching the Igbo nation whenever ONE Igbo person does some wrong! Therefore,
the likes of Kas Nwuke want to create their own "emerging ethnicity"!
COOOOOOL! Fact is, they are doing it by helping to further demonize Ndiigbo.
Kenule Beeson Saro-Wiwa surely achieved something with his gospel of
Igbophobism. May God rest his soul.
My concern here now is that our man Kas is being made into a "Kas Sirim-Wuke"
--- and he is helping in no small way by claiming to be the "Emeka Ojukwu"
(read Isaac Adaka Boro of Ndiikwere)! This is dangerous. Folks have asked me
why this and why that; what Kas really thinks he is doing, etc. Sincerely
speaking, I don't have the answers… whatever you call yourself that's what
people will call you. But I doubt very much that the Saro-Wiwa comparison is
cool. But that's only me. No one made me a psychologist or a lawyer and I have
no intention of JD-ing for now -- there are many out there.
I hoped that something good would come out of this. Unfortunately, the more we
chat, the more attitudes harden. Kas says he belongs to an emerging ethnic
entity. Maybe he should spend the next week telling us what constitutes this
"new" group: a mixtures of Igbo "slave women," Ijaw men, Kalabari kings, Ndoki
eunuchs, Igbo traders, Andoni maids, Ngwa outcasts, Nkwere migrants, Orlu
royals, etc. Attention though: he who calls his mother a prostitute should not
take offense at being labeled a bastard. I will wait to read all about it.
Maybe then we shall answer the question once and for all: are Ndiikwere of
Igbo stock or "colonized Ndiimbammiri/Ndimmong" (as they say further north)
who just lost their ORIGINAL lingo to a NEVER-existed Igbo nation?!
I believe strongly that the Igbo nation, no matter anyone's skewed history, is
an indivisible nation bound together by centuries of sociocultural
intercourse. We had been Biafrans before we became Biafrans the last time
around. And THE SUN SHALL RISE AGAIN! Yes, we do not have COMMON ancestry - no
nation has! Yes, we are not a PURE ethnic group - no nation on earth is PURE;
not the Ibibio, not even Chinese, not the English, the Scot, the Hausa, Fulani
(more Hausa than Fulani), the Nupe, the Idoma, the Tiv. You name it, you got
it. I doubt the Ikwere are of ONE stock. The English monarchs are MORE Germans
than English. The list is long.
What Kas is promoting is DIVISIVE. By distorting the alleged sayings of
revered Ezeogo, Dr. Akanu Ibiam (the only Igbo man he seems to like is dead,
nakwa echeki....) Kas Nwuke is distorting issues. But he is not alone. The
Brits said we had no system, because we preferred a highly decentralized
system that worked during its own time. We now read Bini princes telling us
how the Brits brought us "Igwe" and "Obi"; how we had no KINGS! Imagine the
nonsense --- NDIEZE are dozen a dime in Igbloand; we did not need an almighty
monarch that dies with a human being in his mouth!
WE read also about "SWALLOWING" our own people --as if the Bini warriors
transported PEOPLE to wherever they plundered…. those that did not make it to
the sacrificial shrines or become eunuchs in the many harem huts, that is!
This probably included the Ikwere people! You see, because the Romans ruled
Arabia, Arabs are now ITALIANS! You turn north and you read people talking
about the victim being the oppressor! Invariably the Igbo antennae stand at
full alert. "Onye ndiiro gbara gburu gburu na-eche ndu ya nche mgbe niile."
Then an unfortunate grasshopper nymph falls into a harem of hens.... Yum yum!
I don't believe in rewriting history, but I don't buy history according to the
"conqueror" -- the oppressor in most cases; for it takes a bully to wage a war
on others. Those who wish to wipe out the vestiges of "umudiana" can only try.
I will be the last person NOT to defend the history of the ORIGINAL people of
what today we call "IKWERRE." But somone has to do a good job of telling it,
not trying their damnest to demonize others. In Bini history, installing a
rogue "royal" to reign has suddenly become license to own! The rampaging Ijaw
should simply take over the Itsekiri, the Urhobo, the Ilaje, the Isoko, the
Edo, the Ikwere, etc. Hey, after all, the Bini must have done it! And you
wonder why Queen Elizabeth shouldn't openly own Nigeria. Even if the
"intruder" came from the sky, the being of the people cannot be wiped off. It
is there: their lingo in their religion, tradition.... in fact, in their
culture, which is the totality of their age-old existence.
I will wait to read from Kas Nwuke where we as Ndiigbo should proceed with
building a modern Igbo nation, not this tittle-tattle about being Ikwere
"city-state" and speaking Igbo and emerging as some phantom ethnicity made in
little minds. No one makes a positive impact on society by destroying what is;
you do so by building on what is. Yes, we had different ancestry. That's why
"Umuahia" and "Umunri" are different! Do I hear Mbaise and Mbano? DUH! If
anyone has an idea, let's hear it. This angle of "riversiasis" is as
disingenuous as Kas Saro-Wiwa's justification of his callous and destructive
Igbophobism. Let's not give folks more wrong reasons to draw the right
conclusions. Please.
Finally, let me end on a lighter mood: Okaa Kalu Ndukwe Kalu alleged that Okaa
O. Kasirimobi Nwuke is "Ms. Mary Anderson, JD." Kas says he is not; that
Ndukwe should swear by "Amadioha Ozuzu" -- i.e. the divine god of thunder and
lightening. Guess what: this requires the services of a JD. So, Mary: over to
you. The issue to resolve here is where the "ONUS" lies. Should Kas prove he
is NOT "Mary Anderson," or should Ndukwe Kalu, Ph.D. prove beyond all
reasonable doubt that Kas Nwuke, Ph.D. is "Mary Anderson, JD"? If the onus is
on Kas, then HE should do the swearing by "Amadioha Ozuzu." If it is on
Ndukwe, then he should either go a step further with his Columboesque
submission or take the oath, not on Amadioha but on his own name! You see,
Kalu is short for Kamalu -- the god of thunder! In Igbo religion, Odinani, you
don't swear by just any deity! Why? Assuming your folks had migrated away from
this deity, due to some unimplemented requests or failed contract, you would
be waltzing back into the eye of a storm. Do, you drown; don't you drown - you
are marked!
However, since Mary's authenticity is the issue, and does not require trifling
with such strong and lethal deities as Kamalu and Amadioha, you Mary Anderson,
JD, can resolve the issue by simply proving BEYOND DOUBT that you are who you
are -- as requested by Okaa Kalu Diogu Kalu. Yes, Okaa Chiji nwa Akoma said it
was not necessary to the discussion -- it WAS not; it now is :)
Ngwanu nu, I hope I have not opened up more cans of caterpillars!
Have a glorious weekend, folks.
MOE
Ps: I am who I say I am: an Igbo male.
Proof? If you are in the area this weekend, just buzz me at (732) 735-3045.
The Bud is on me :).
Reed...@aol.com
I did say NOT to respond to this address. Please.
Now to Kas Nwuke's latest, which came in as I was leaving this remote end: I
will ignore the personal tidbits or this will further degenerate to
unnecessary mudslinging, and I will ignore many the other issues that concern
my previous mails. My original answers remain valid, until proven otherwise.
Now you write:
>>I think that it is INTELLECTUALLY fraudulent to claim
that such a nation did exist without any evidence to support the claim.<<
Then you went ahead to write:
>> As we know, the nations that did exist in West Africa all
collapsed with the advent of slavery. Anyone who ignores slavery is being,
to say the least, disingenious.>>
Haba, Kas:
DISINGENUOUS + Intellectual Doublespeak = INTELLECTUAL FRAUDULENT DOUBLESPEAK.
QED.
Fact is, UNLESS you know for sure, you cannot dismiss the possibility of an
Igbocentric nation the early Portuguese (long before Alphonse d'Aveiro....
before Vasco da Gama) know as BIAFRA. I don't know, you don't know: what makes
one intellectual 419ner and the another intellectually kosher is neither black
nor white. Please don't degenerate to unnecessary insults, especially when you
have no clue what emerging ethnicity better describes your present being. What
do you say?
No, this will not be my last take; it is getting interesting, especially since
we are yet to read about the emerging ethnic entities.
Must run and start the weekend. Peace.
MOE
Ps: Just finished reading Prof. Animalu's work on Prof. K.O. Dike, complete
with post-slave trade maps! I will post a brief take on Biafra and Igbo Ukwu
civilization, which has been scientifically proven to have existed before the
Bini Empire.... FACT!
kasirim nwuke
I am not at all sure there was anything personal in my response to your
epistle. But please read that epistle of yours again. (There was no
personal tidbit.)
On another note, the early explorers did believe that there was a place
called El Dorado, didn't they?
I am off the thread. You can continue with your stipulation.
o. kasirim nwuke
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kasirim nwuke
Thank you for your rather very long piece.
I shall not respond as you probably will want me to. I have made my
points and shall move on. On Anderson or whatever the fellow is called, I
ask you this: isn't it always the case that the accuser is required to
provide evidence supporting his/her case? Ndukwe Kalu who has a history
of faking has made an allegation. I am asking him to provide evidence
supportive of his allegation. And you? What do you suggest? That the
accused has to prove his innocence. Well, well, well, what else can I
say?
On Nweke whatever, I would not have responded to it had you not called my
attention to it. You drew my attention to it in your response to "A
challenge to the branders". I responded to the point you made: that the
elders were right or so. My response was philosophical rather than
personal. I tried to tell you that that a majority is for a viewpoint is
not sufficient reason to assume that the majority is right. The Nweke or
whatever you called him is probably seeing what the others have not seen.
And that others have not seen it does not and cannot extinguish his claim
to the truth he sees. I gave you a few examples. At no point was I I
placing myself in the shoes of the examples I gave. My point was and
remains: it is not necessary to dance to a tune because everyone is
dancing to it.
On Ojukwu and leading people in war or to war, I defer to you and to your
interpretation.
On Igbo nation, I will like you to convince me that such a nation did
exist before the British came. Tell me what the mythologies of that nation
are? Any stories of shared ancestry. Of migratory history. Look, even a
Yoruba nation did not exist. Never mind that there was an Oyo Kingdom. If
it had existed, all Yorubas would have risen to defend Oyo when it was
invaded by Othman Dan Fodio's army. And we are aware of the "Yoruba"
wars. All the claims of distinct nations are just that "CLAIMS". You
cannot stipulate, by virtue of perhaps language similarity, that a
nation did exist. I think that it is INTELLECTUALLY fraudulent to claim
that such a nation did exist without any evidence to support the claim.
And by the way, let me say this - although I have said this before. I do
not speak for anyone but for okn. I do not speak for my family. I have no
doubts that my siblings, if asked, will probably express a view at
variance with mine. I do not care what the Ikwerre do. I do not care who
the Ikwerre claim to be. I do not care what the Ikwerre do not do. They
are at liberty to do as they wish. Ditto for the Ogoni. Ditto for the
Ogba. I care that noone has proved to me that a nation did exist in the
territory of eastern Nigeria and that that nation was called Igbo. I want
to be told the history of that nation. I want you to tell me what unites
the Ogba - Ahoada man with Oko man other than languages that are
"genetically" related.
We cannot ignore the effect of slave raids. Neither can we ignore the
effect of the wars in the western delta (Bini and Yoruba wars) on
population movements. What needs to be done is to understand the
direction of most of the movements. My contention is that most of the
movement was from the southern belt to the northern belt. I also contend
that the many centuries of slave raids were not conducive to nation
formation. As we know, the nations that did exist in West Africa all
collapsed with the advent of slavery. Anyone who ignores slavery is being,
to say the least, disingenious.
As Don Ohadike once pointed out, not much is known. Perhaps with a little
more research we will know more. But until we do that, let us stop
stipulating and instead, seek to build bridges all across eastern Nigeria
and Nigeria.
I have made my point. I am moving on. The village square now belongs
you. And I shall not personalize this as you appear to want. (Ndukwe
Kalu and I go back several years. He lies through his teeth and ..... )
But then, you are at liberty to personalize if you want to. I believe we
only met on the parade grounds in Kaduna during our NYSC. I do not
remember our remaining in touch after camp. Perhaps, I am wrong.
I have given the name of the village to which I referred - it is Igberre,
Mazi Ukonu's village. Anyone who cares can follow up on the matter, try
to find out a touch more about that village's migratory history. In doing
so, plse ascertain whether or not the village is located close to a river
or a stream. Not that it matters any way.
Ethnic labels mean nothing to me. Ethnicity is a social construct. It is
surprising that millions have died fighting over something like that. What
matters to me is that the individual in front of whom I stand is human and
(as those of you who believe in the Jewish God will say) created in the
image of God. And it is on the basis of our shared humanity, and that
alone, that I try to relate to him/her. Not on the basis of an ever
changing social construct like ethnicity.
You can disagree with me. That is your prerogative, Dr. Maurice O. Ene.
I have nothing more to say.
Good bye.
o. kasirim nwuke
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On Fri, 27 Nov 1998 Reed...@aol.com wrote:
> Villagers:
>
> Ndeewo nu.
>
> Someone just called my attention to some "emerging" issues, and Kas Nwuke's
> latest salvo. Please pardon me if I do not have a full grip on other e-mails.
> Also, do not reply to this address.
>
> This weeklong sociocultural potpourri has taken us from titles to ethnicity to
> linguistics and back to persons. Once again we are back to where we started:
> SQUARE ONE. I learned a lot -- as always, but I am sorry to say that we shall
> revisit the main kernel again: Is Dr. O. K. Nwuke Igbophobic? I think it is
> about time we stopped sweeping it under the rug. It's a shame that this
> weeklong volley brings us no closer to resolving the vexatious issue contained
> therein, which Chinedu has rightly raised: Ndiigbo and the so-called "emerging
> ethnic minorities," especially as PRESENTED by Kas Nwuke..
Kalu N. Kalu
> Maurice:
> (Ndukwe Kalu and I go back several years. He lies through his teeth and
> ..... ) But then, you are at liberty to personalize if you want to. I
> believe we only met on the parade grounds in Kaduna during our NYSC. I
> do not remember our remaining in touch after camp. Perhaps, I am wrong.
Kasirim Nwa-uke( a.k.a, Mary Anderson):
Do you now see why you thieving rogue is not worth an ounce of anybody's
time. Yes, Kasirim Nwa-uke, you are wrong as always. The way you frame
the above sentence, one is unsure whether you are referring to Maurice or
to me, but nonetheless I will put forth this disclaimer just in case, and
whether it is applicable or not. I have never met or known you, and
absolutely have very little interest in seeing your traitorial face. It is
evident you have nothing to offer. No, you and I do not go back several
years, perhaps it is what you ever wished in your life. No wonder you have
been mistaking me for someone else called "Ndukwe Kalu." Not that I would
not gladly accept that name, as most people call me anyway. You have never
met me, and you must dread the day you will meet me. Just for your
information, I have never been to Kaduna, or whatever you call it. I will
not be surprised if you will now latch on the words which you used,
"perhaps I may be wrong." Yes, a thief when cornered will always find
something to latch on. What a waste and a loser?
> I have given the name of the village to which I referred - it is Igberre,
> Mazi Ukonu's village. Anyone who cares can follow up on the matter, try
> to find out a touch more about that village's migratory history. In doing
> so, plse ascertain whether or not the village is located close to a river
> or a stream. Not that it matters any way.
No, it does matter when you spew these lies from your foaming mouth. There
is no river anyway close to Igbere (note only one "r"). The "closest"
river is hunders of miles away in a place called the Cross River.
Igbere is no where near a river for that matter. Since you have
refused to get your bearings right, note that "Item" itself is not
close to Akwa Ibom. Please tell us how the Igberes migrated from "Opobo,"
and also the age groups in Abiriba and Ohafia that use the name of a town
in "Rivers state." If you do not tell us, then that your Amadioha-Ozuzu
will certainly strike you down. I will also add that anybody who lies
and denies his heritage, any person who sells his Igbo identity for
economic opportunism, anybody who has in many ways benefited from the
grace and generosity of the Igbos but remains ungrateful, may
Amadioha-Ozuzu strike him down on the spot.
BTW, your pathetic attempt to inject Professor Ohadike into this your
warped fancies is most arrogant of you. Professor Ohadike has written
profusely about the Igbo nation and its heritage. He remains a price to
all of us who have never wavered on our heritage. Please go and read
his works. They are available everywhere, or you may contact him. He is
on Igbo-net. You are the only Ikwere-Igbo who says that he is not an Igbo.
Why don't you go and be what you want to be than to look for partners
where none would be forthcoming. In your tortured dementia, the Ngwas, the
Attahs, the Wawas, the Bendes, are not Igbos. Now it is the Igbere's and
the Items. But in all this, you have not told us who the Ikwere-Igbos are
and where they migrated from? In a mail a couple of weeks ago, you had
disingeneously inserted that the "Igbos should apologize to the Anioma
people." First time I have ever heard that and as if the Aniomas are not
Igbos. Kasirim Nwa-Uke, unlike you as a conniving traitor, the Aniomas
(Ika-Ibos) have never denied being Igbo. They are first bred and born of
the Igbo stock and no amount of economic entreaties can sway their noble
spirit.
Not that he deserves any iota of credit for anthing meaningful, but I will
leave you for now with the words of your other mouthy mentor KSW:
"in the affairs of men, trickery and bad faith only succeed in the
short term" KSW: On A Darkling Plain, 1989.
How true could he be? With apocalyptic precision, the ace-Igbophobe
drowned in his own caustic venom. Kasirim Nwa-uke, yours is bidding time
and would certainly be no different.
BTW, have you forgotten that we still have the mail you sent to
naijanet impugning the privacy of another person's mother. After reading
that, why do you think that anybody on Igbo--net would take you as worth
anything, other than a useless pervert?
Kalu.
> You can disagree with me. That is your prerogative, Dr. Maurice O. Ene.
> I have nothing more to say.
>
> Good bye.
>
>
> o. kasirim nwuke
> ----------------
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, 27 Nov 1998 Reed...@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Villagers:
> >
> > Ndeewo nu.
> >
> > Someone just called my attention to some "emerging" issues, and Kas Nwuke's
> > latest salvo. Please pardon me if I do not have a full grip on other e-mails.
> > Also, do not reply to this address.
> >
> > This weeklong sociocultural potpourri has taken us from titles to ethnicity to
> > linguistics and back to persons. Once again we are back to where we started:
> > SQUARE ONE. I learned a lot -- as always, but I am sorry to say that we shall
> > revisit the main kernel again: Is Dr. O. K. Nwuke Igbophobic? I think it is
> > about time we stopped sweeping it under the rug. It's a shame that this
> > weeklong volley brings us no closer to resolving the vexatious issue contained
> > therein, which Chinedu has rightly raised: Ndiigbo and the so-called "emerging
> > ethnic minorities," especially as PRESENTED by Kas Nwuke.
> >
> > is there: their lingo in their religion, tradition..... in fact, in their
kasirim nwuke
> >On Sat, 28 Nov 1998, kasirim nwuke wrote:
>
> Kasirim Nwa-uke, the thieving Ikwerre-Igbo rogue:
>
> You have disdainfully refused to answer the question posed to you? You
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Yes you are right. Disdain is an apt characterization of my treatment of
your question. For the first time, you are right. I DISDAINFULLY refused
to answer your question. You and your question are beneath disdain,
beneath contempt. (I doubt though that you'd have used the word "disdain"
if you understood its meaning :-)) Oh, by the way, a period (full-stop)
should follow "you", not a question mark. (Boy, it is good that you are no
longer in the classroom :-). I wonder how your students would ....)
> have yourself admitted that you do not know anything about the Igbere's,
> but didn't you say it was located near a "river?"
Again, you show evidence of a chronic inability to comprehend. I asked
Egwu Kalu if Igberre was located close to a river. He said it was.
> Now, I will answer your silly questions, and I hope you learn from them,
> thief man. Will you now answer the questions that were posed to you, or
> will you flounder
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Flounder? Haha ha. Look, Dr. Flounder means (1) to move with difficulty,
(2) to make mistakes, (3) the act of making mistakes.
Look, why don't you write in simple english? Why must you write to impress
and in the process make so many mistakes? Why? Come off your high horse
man. The Dictionary you swallowed is not helping, is it? I can send you
some more. English language is not difficult if you avoid the temptation
to want to impress. Write as if you are writing to yourself and you will
be fine.
It has been hinted to me that you were quite a regular on the back streets
of Philadelphia inhaling, injecting,sniffing and engaging in what
President Mugabe of Zimbabwe has described as "beneath pigs and dogs"
while you were at Rutgers. The same source hints that the back alleys of
New Haven have become your home. What a pity.. So much potential, so
little to show for it.
Look, okn is not your problem. okn is not the problem facing Ndiigbo.
The problem that Ndiigbo, like all Nigerians, are facing is a "leadership"
that has failed to use power to transform our society, to make life better
for all Nigerians. That, Ndukwe is the problem. And it is to that
leadership that you should direct your anger, not at me. I have
absolutely nothing to do with your very sorry and pathetic predicament.
Anyroads if you love Ndiigbo so much as you profess, could you please
commit yourself to do something positive for them, something to change the
life of one single disadvantaged boy or girl. Just commit yourself to
that. You don't have to be Bill Gates or a Getty. It will be nice to log
on to Igbo--net and be greeted with the announcement that Dr. Ndukwe K.
Kalu has done xyz for Ndiigbo. Jus do it!!!
Anyroads, I hope you will keep off the streets and alleyways of New Haven
and Hartford. We know that you are "beneath pigs and dogs" in your
activities but I don't I believe that you are not incapable of changing.
Good bye. Until next time. I sure know that there will be a next time as
long as a) you no get head, and b) smoll pikin continew to de worri you.
okn
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>
> > Ndukwe:
> >
> > a. What name do you have on your diploma from Rutgers? Is it Kalu Ndukwe
> > Kalu or is Ndukwe K. Kalu?
> Listen and for the last time, I have nothing to do with the login "nkk3."
> It is computer generated using the alphabets of ones names in a staggered
> fashion. The system does not allow individuals to chose their Login Id. As
> it stands, I am the 3rd person who has been assigned an "nkk" as a login.
> There is also an "nkk1" and "nkk2." But if you prefer to call me Ndukwe
> Kalu Kalu, fine alright. Or you can ask your "good friend" KKD, he'll tell
> you the truth better than me (as long as you do not betray him).
>
>
> > d. I fail to understand why you cannot say the truth. Not even to
> > yourself! Is it the frustration of exile? Of dashed hopes and
> > expectation? Of pompous ego come to naught? What is it?
>
>
>
> > h. Permit me to ask you a question: if you love Ndiigbo so much, pray tell
> > us what you have done for them lately. Other than to drop names and feign
> > importance. "I just spoke to Dr. Arthur Nwankwo this morning"
>
> I have never used this word. I do not have to. Do you now see why you are
> an imbecile? Framing your own words and infering to others? You are a
> complete disgrace to whomever will take you as a son.
>
>
> ("Le le nu. De boy dikwa important".). Or to announce with exaggerated
> > self-importance, "Dr. Ekwueme will be in New Haven. He may address the
> > Council on African Studies. We will ask him all questions." ("Le le nu
> > de boi de boi de important oh!").
>
> Why don't you stay there and roast your tortured pitiful self? I thought
> you said you are not Igbo. Are you Igbo? Otherwise why do you care? We
> Igbos are moving forward. You will stay on the fence until you die, and so
> will your offsprings. Oh! sorry, I forgot as it was hinted a while ago,
> you are less inclined to the opposite sex.
>
> > Abeg, komot for road jo. I no get time for person wen no get head like
> > you. I no know weda na de Dictionary wen you swallow na im de worri you or
> > na smoll pikin na im de worri you.
> >
> > Abeg komot jo.
>
> The above sounds to me as the pitiful wailing of a thieving motor park
> tout. What a low-life?
>
>
> Ndukwe Kalu Kalu or Kalu Ndukwe Kalu (which ever you prefer)
>
>
>
> > okn
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ end of message +++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > is hunders of miles away in a place called the Cross River. Please tell us
> > > > > is there: their lingo in their religion, tradition.... in fact, in their
Kalu N. Kalu
>On Sat, 28 Nov 1998, kasirim nwuke wrote:
Kasirim Nwa-uke, the thieving Ikwerre-Igbo rogue:
You have disdainfully refused to answer the question posed to you? You
have yourself admitted that you do not know anything about the Igbere's,
but didn't you say it was located near a "river?" Can you now tell us
where the Ikwerre-Igbos migrated from? What is the origin of their language
and names? What is the meaning of the "O" in your first name? Why has
"Mary Anderson" (remember him) not sent a single mail to Igbo--net since
"he" was exposed as a degenerate? In my area, we call people like you
"Onye ori."
Now, I will answer your silly questions, and I hope you learn from them,
thief man. Will you now answer the questions that were posed to you, or
will you flounder and kiss as usual.
> Ndukwe:
>
> a. What name do you have on your diploma from Rutgers? Is it Kalu Ndukwe
> Kalu or is Ndukwe K. Kalu?
It is Kalu Ndukwe Kalu, B.Sc Environmental Science
B.A Philosophy
> b. By what name where you known at that College in Texas - Lamar was it?
> Was it Ndukwe K. Kalu or was it Kalu N. Kalu?
Never been at a college in Texas, it is a university.
As usual, Kalu Ndukwe Kalu.
> c. By what name are you known in New Haven (when you were there?)?
No, not that fast, I am still there. Or is this one of your usual ruses
to find out. You little pot-bellied bastard.
>Is it Ndukwe K. Kalu or Kalu N. Kalu? If you are confused plse look at
>your login name. What does it say? KNK (I know you too ...:-) or NKK?
I always knew you have a very shallow mind and would be so stupid to fall
for that. Look at you and your reason for calling me Ndukwe Kalu Kalu. Do
you now see how stupid you look to the rest of the world, a fool living in
a made-for-drama bogus world?
I thought that you had awhile ago "dutifully" explained that I changed
my name because there was a Dr. Kalu Idika Kalu, who was then being spoken
in good favor? And so I changed my name to "rub-off" on him? Didn't you say
that? Have you now changed your incredible story on that too? And yet,
this is the level of reasoning we should expect from a gOVERNOR-in-waiting
for Rivers state. BTW, how do you define "useless" and "insanity?" Do you
think Igbo--net is naijanet where they glorify fools for nothing?
Listen and for the last time, I have nothing to do with the login "nkk3."
It is computer generated using the alphabets of ones names in a staggered
fashion. The system does not allow individuals to chose their Login Id. As
it stands, I am the 3rd person who has been assigned an "nkk" as a login.
There is also an "nkk1" and "nkk2." But if you prefer to call me Ndukwe
Kalu Kalu, fine alright. Or you can ask your "good friend" KKD, he'll tell
you the truth better than me (as long as you do not betray him).
> d. I fail to understand why you cannot say the truth. Not even to
> yourself! Is it the frustration of exile? Of dashed hopes and
> expectation? Of pompous ego come to naught? What is it?
Refer to the above
> > > > Then an unfortunate grasshopper nymph falls into a harem of hens... Yum yum!
Kalu N. Kalu
> > >On Sat, 28 Nov 1998, kasirim nwuke wrote:
Kasirim Nwa-uke, the thieving Ikwerre-Igbo rogue:
> > Now, I will answer your silly questions, and I hope you learn from them,
> > thief man. Will you now answer the questions that were posed to you, or
> > will you flounder
> -------
> Flounder? Haha ha. Look, Dr. Flounder means (1) to move with difficulty,
> (2) to make mistakes, (3) the act of making mistakes.
Do you now see why you should never be taken seriously by anybody? You
deliberately looked up the meaning of "flounder" and disingeniously
selected only the ones that fit your dubious objectives. Why did you not
give your readers ALL the full meaning of "flounder?"
Like "flounder," meaning-----> to stumble
-----> to proceed clumsily and "often"
self-conciously
-----> to muddle
-----> struggle to move or obtain one's footing
-----> to move from blunder to blunder
Do you now see why you are a waste? Do you still dispute that the
word was used appropriately? Aturu mu ebulu. Can't you go to a
decent library and get a good dictionary and learn about all these
yourself? Why must I be the one to teach them to you?
I am aware that all these your pranks are simply to shift attention and
change the topic from you to something else. Nice try. Will you now be man
enough and answer the questions? Otherwise, ----------!!
Kalu.
> Look, why don't you write in simple english? Why must you write to impress
> and in the process make so many mistakes? Why? Come off your high horse
> man. The Dictionary you swallowed is not helping, is it? I can send you
> some more. English language is not difficult if you avoid the temptation
> to want to impress. Write as if you are writing to yourself and you will
> be fine.
>
> It has been hinted to me that you were quite a regular on the back streets
> of Philadelphia inhaling, injecting,sniffing and engaging in what
> President Mugabe of Zimbabwe has described as "beneath pigs and dogs"
> while you were at Rutgers. The same source hints that the back alleys of
> New Haven have become your home. What a pity. So much potential, so
> little to show for it.
>
> Look, okn is not your problem. okn is not the problem facing Ndiigbo.
> The problem that Ndiigbo, like all Nigerians, are facing is a "leadership"
> that has failed to use power to transform our society, to make life better
> for all Nigerians. That, Ndukwe is the problem. And it is to that
> leadership that you should direct your anger, not at me. I have
> absolutely nothing to do with your very sorry and pathetic predicament.
>
> Anyroads if you love Ndiigbo so much as you profess, could you please
> commit yourself to do something positive for them, something to change the
> life of one single disadvantaged boy or girl. Just commit yourself to
> that. You don't have to be Bill Gates or a Getty. It will be nice to log
> on to Igbo--net and be greeted with the announcement that Dr. Ndukwe K.
> Kalu has done xyz for Ndiigbo. Jus do it!!!
>
> Anyroads, I hope you will keep off the streets and alleyways of New Haven
> and Hartford. We know that you are "beneath pigs and dogs" in your
> activities but I don't I believe that you are not incapable of changing.
>
> Good bye. Until next time. I sure know that there will be a next time as
> long as a) you no get head, and b) smoll pikin continew to de worri you.
>
>
> okn
> ---
>
>
>
> >
> > > Ndukwe:
> > >
> > > a. What name do you have on your diploma from Rutgers? Is it Kalu Ndukwe
> > > Kalu or is Ndukwe K. Kalu?
>
>
> > Listen and for the last time, I have nothing to do with the login "nkk3."
> > It is computer generated using the alphabets of ones names in a staggered
> > fashion. The system does not allow individuals to chose their Login Id. As
> > it stands, I am the 3rd person who has been assigned an "nkk" as a login.
> > There is also an "nkk1" and "nkk2." But if you prefer to call me Ndukwe
> > Kalu Kalu, fine alright. Or you can ask your "good friend" KKD, he'll tell
> > you the truth better than me (as long as you do not betray him).
> >
> >
> > > d. I fail to understand why you cannot say the truth. Not even to
> > > yourself! Is it the frustration of exile? Of dashed hopes and
> > > expectation? Of pompous ego come to naught? What is it?
> >
> >
> >
> > > > > > Then an unfortunate grasshopper nymph falls into a harem of hens.... Yum yum!
Edwin Ekwue
I agree with you that this hatred should stop. We now know the views of
Dr. Kasirim Nwuke and it is time to go on to more important issues like
the Local Government Elections coming up this weekend in Nigeria as well
as the other future elections.
I am a bit familiar with the Ikwerre Etche area of Rivers State. As a
child, I grew up in Umukurushu (now Rumukrushu), Umueme (now Rumueme)
and Eberi Omuma. As a boy then, I remember that we spoke only Igbo
language in school and elsewhere. The difference is only that the
dialect was different from say what people speak in the old Anambra and
Imo States. When I was at Eberi Omuma (1965 - 1968), Chief Nwuke, a
Minister in the old Okpara Government was a household name and one of
the writers said that he is related to Dr. Kasirim Nwuke. Until 1968
when Eberi Omuma fell to the Federal troops and my family had to return
to our native town, Nnobi in the present Anambra State, the people of
Ikwerre Etche supported the Biafran cause and many of them fought
throughout on the side of Biafra.
The problem started after the war, I was told, when Ikwerre people
declared themselves as not Ndigbo as a way of mending fences with most
of the Rivers State people who did not support the war. That was why
the prefix, 'R' was added to the names of most of their towns. However,
I believe that people have the right to call themselves anything they
want and this should not affect our discussion on Igbo net.
This is by the way. I now believe that the time has come to move to
other very important issues concerning Nigeria. This exchange of words
between Dr. Nwuke and the rest cannot lead us anywhere.
Edwin Ekwue, Trinidad.
uzo
As I read the hate for each other emanating from both of you, I ponder to
ask what will happen if one day your children of opposite sex fall in love
with each other.
For the love of God and humanity can this hate be halted.
May God asssit both of you in changing your perception of each other.
Cheers
Uzo
-----Original Message-----
From: Kalu N. Kalu <nk...@pantheon.yale.edu>
To: igbo...@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu <igbo...@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu>
Date: dimanche 29 novembre 1998 0:25
Subject: Re: Maurice Ene's Stipulated ethnic entity
>
>
>>On Sat, 28 Nov 1998, kasirim nwuke wrote:
>
>
>Kasirim Nwa-uke, the thieving Ikwerre-Igbo rogue:
>
>You have disdainfully refused to answer the question posed to you? You
>have yourself admitted that you do not know anything about the Igbere's,
>but didn't you say it was located near a "river?" Can you now tell us
>where the Ikwerre-Igbos migrated from? What is the origin of their language
>and names? What is the meaning of the "O" in your first name? Why has
>"Mary Anderson" (remember him) not sent a single mail to Igbo--net since
>"he" was exposed as a degenerate? In my area, we call people like you
>"Onye ori."
>
>Now, I will answer your silly questions, and I hope you learn from them,
>thief man. Will you now answer the questions that were posed to you, or
>will you flounder and kiss as usual.
>
>> Ndukwe:
>>
>> a. What name do you have on your diploma from Rutgers? Is it Kalu Ndukwe
>> Kalu or is Ndukwe K. Kalu?
>
>It is Kalu Ndukwe Kalu, B.Sc Environmental Science
> B.A Philosophy
>
>
>> b. By what name where you known at that College in Texas - Lamar was it?
>> Was it Ndukwe K. Kalu or was it Kalu N. Kalu?
>
>Never been at a college in Texas, it is a university.
>
>As usual, Kalu Ndukwe Kalu.
>
>
>> c. By what name are you known in New Haven (when you were there?)?
>
>No, not that fast, I am still there. Or is this one of your usual ruses
>to find out. You little pot-bellied bastard.
>
>>Is it Ndukwe K. Kalu or Kalu N. Kalu? If you are confused plse look at
>>your login name. What does it say? KNK (I know you too ...:-) or NKK?
>
>I always knew you have a very shallow mind and would be so stupid to fall
>for that. Look at you and your reason for calling me Ndukwe Kalu Kalu. Do
>you now see how stupid you look to the rest of the world, a fool living in
>a made-for-drama bogus world?
>
>I thought that you had awhile ago "dutifully" explained that I changed
>my name because there was a Dr. Kalu Idika Kalu, who was then being spoken
>in good favor? And so I changed my name to "rub-off" on him? Didn't you say
>that? Have you now changed your incredible story on that too? And yet,
>this is the level of reasoning we should expect from a gOVERNOR-in-waiting
>for Rivers state. BTW, how do you define "useless" and "insanity?" Do you
>think Igbo--net is naijanet where they glorify fools for nothing?
>
>Listen and for the last time, I have nothing to do with the login "nkk3."
>It is computer generated using the alphabets of ones names in a staggered
>fashion. The system does not allow individuals to chose their Login Id. As
>it stands, I am the 3rd person who has been assigned an "nkk" as a login.
>There is also an "nkk1" and "nkk2." But if you prefer to call me Ndukwe
>Kalu Kalu, fine alright. Or you can ask your "good friend" KKD, he'll tell
>you the truth better than me (as long as you do not betray him).
>
>
>> d. I fail to understand why you cannot say the truth. Not even to
>> yourself! Is it the frustration of exile? Of dashed hopes and
>> expectation? Of pompous ego come to naught? What is it?
>
>Refer to the above
Kalu N. Kalu
>On Sat, 28 Nov 1998, kasirim nwuke wrote:
Yes, Ikwerre-Igbo rogue:
Please stop harping (without any basis) on the word "disdain," and answer
the questions posed to you. It is now obvious that you do not know the
meaning of the word, but try and and get a good dictionary and check out
ALL the full meaning of "disdain." "Disdain"----> meaning "keen resentment
due to injured pride." Do you now see how little you claim to know? Again,
why are you running away from the questions?
Listen, if you do not answer the questions that have been posed to you,
may AMADIOHA-OZUZU strike you down in your sleep. Anu nwa nkapi.
Ndukwe K. Kalu.
> New Haven have become your home. What a pity. So much potential, so
> > > > > > on Kas, then HE should do the swearing by "Amadioha Ozuzu.." If it is on
Kalu N. Kalu
>On Sun, 29 Nov 1998, uzo wrote:
Uzo:
This is a very irresponsible statement from you, and which indicates you
have not followed the issue. It is unfortunate that you among many have
chosen to stay on the sidelines and lurk from the shadows, when a renegade
attempts not only to insult but to re-write the history of the Igbos. Uzo,
while others are still claiming to be chairman of this and that Igbo
organization, you have also chosen to hide and keep quiet, but all the
while the house was set on fire by an outsider. And finally, if you as
others have nothing meaningful to say, please do not say anything.
Best wishes to you.
Kalu.
> KNK and OKN,
>
>
> As I read the hate for each other emanating from both of you, I ponder to
> ask what will happen if one day your children of opposite sex fall in love
> with each other.
>
>
> For the love of God and humanity can this hate be halted.
>
>
> May God asssit both of you in changing your perception of each other.
>
> Cheers
>
> Uzo
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kalu N. Kalu <nk...@pantheon.yale.edu>
> To: igbo...@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu <igbo...@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu>
> Date: dimanche 29 novembre 1998 0:25
> Subject: Re: Maurice Ene's Stipulated ethnic entity
>
>
> >
> >
> >>On Sat, 28 Nov 1998, kasirim nwuke wrote:
> >
> >
> >Kasirim Nwa-uke, the thieving Ikwerre-Igbo rogue:
> >
> >You have disdainfully refused to answer the question posed to you? You
> >have yourself admitted that you do not know anything about the Igbere's,
> >but didn't you say it was located near a "river?" Can you now tell us
> >where the Ikwerre-Igbos migrated from? What is the origin of their language
> >and names? What is the meaning of the "O" in your first name? Why has
> >"Mary Anderson" (remember him) not sent a single mail to Igbo--net since
> >"he" was exposed as a degenerate? In my area, we call people like you
> >"Onye ori."
> >
> >Now, I will answer your silly questions, and I hope you learn from them,
> >thief man. Will you now answer the questions that were posed to you, or
> >will you flounder and kiss as usual.
> >
> >> Ndukwe:
> >>
> >> a. What name do you have on your diploma from Rutgers? Is it Kalu Ndukwe
> >> Kalu or is Ndukwe K. Kalu?
> >
> >It is Kalu Ndukwe Kalu, B.Sc Environmental Science
> > B.A Philosophy
> >
> >
> >> b. By what name where you known at that College in Texas - Lamar was it?
> >> Was it Ndukwe K. Kalu or was it Kalu N. Kalu?
> >
> >Never been at a college in Texas, it is a university.
> >
> >As usual, Kalu Ndukwe Kalu.
> >
> >
> >> c. By what name are you known in New Haven (when you were there?)?
> >
> >No, not that fast, I am still there. Or is this one of your usual ruses
> >to find out. You little pot-bellied bastard.
> >
> >>Is it Ndukwe K. Kalu or Kalu N. Kalu? If you are confused plse look at
> >>your login name. What does it say? KNK (I know you too ...:-) or NKK?
> >
> >I always knew you have a very shallow mind and would be so stupid to fall
> >for that. Look at you and your reason for calling me Ndukwe Kalu Kalu. Do
> >you now see how stupid you look to the rest of the world, a fool living in
> >a made-for-drama bogus world?
> >
> >I thought that you had awhile ago "dutifully" explained that I changed
> >my name because there was a Dr. Kalu Idika Kalu, who was then being spoken
> >in good favor? And so I changed my name to "rub-off" on him? Didn't you say
> >that? Have you now changed your incredible story on that too? And yet,
> >this is the level of reasoning we should expect from a gOVERNOR-in-waiting
> >for Rivers state. BTW, how do you define "useless" and "insanity?" Do you
> >think Igbo--net is naijanet where they glorify fools for nothing?
> >
> >Listen and for the last time, I have nothing to do with the login "nkk3."
> >It is computer generated using the alphabets of ones names in a staggered
> >fashion. The system does not allow individuals to chose their Login Id. As
> >it stands, I am the 3rd person who has been assigned an "nkk" as a login.
> >There is also an "nkk1" and "nkk2." But if you prefer to call me Ndukwe
> >Kalu Kalu, fine alright. Or you can ask your "good friend" KKD, he'll tell
> >you the truth better than me (as long as you do not betray him).
> >
> >
> >> d. I fail to understand why you cannot say the truth. Not even to
> >> yourself! Is it the frustration of exile? Of dashed hopes and
> >> expectation? Of pompous ego come to naught? What is it?
> >
> >Refer to the above
> >> > > > on Kas, then HE should do the swearing by "Amadioha Ozuzu." If it
Obi Iheduru
Your statement below, referring to Dr. O. Kasirim Nwuke as an "outsider" is
in bad taste. If we are telling OKN to come back to the fold and forget the
misgivings and miscalculations of the Biafran fall-outs, it defeats the
entire exercise for us to label an Ikwerre man (remember you called him
"Ikwerre-Igbo)an outsider on Igbo--net. Sometime ago, one of us in a similar
narcissitic arrogance referred to an Abakaliki man as a peripheral Igbo. The
whole house descended on him and he obliquely apologized.
OKN may differ in his opinions as an individual on whether or not he is
Igbo. He has not however impugned the position of the Ogbako Ikwerre, and
notables like Eze Woluchem of Port Harcourt and Chief Okogbule Nwonodi, who
have accepted their Igboness. We should refrain from this kind of statement
which breeds further bad bloood and drives a wedge into the Igbo unity that
we all cherish. Are we looking for second class Igbos or for Igbos who are
equal one and to the other? As Uzo advised, enough of the diatribe and
invectives. My position is that OKN must remain an insider on Igbo--net and
in the Igbo nation. The dialect may differ, but the Igbo nation remains one.
Thank you.
Obi Iheduru
===========
Kalu N. Kalu
Obi:
Please do not divert this issue. I do not need you to correct me along the
lines you seem to suggest. Please do not go further than you already have.
The fellow you are holding brief for regards himself as an "outsider," or
if you prefer a "fence-sitter." Please get your bearings right. I am not
the one who did, and neither have I suggested that he be isolated from
Igbo--net. BTW, I am not telling anybody to come back to anything. It is
the person's choice. Please re-read my last sentence to Uzo.
Take care of yourself.
Kalu.
kasirim nwuke
I do not have time for someone who is going around impersonating what he
is not. For starters, could you plse tell Igbo--netters what you do at
Yale? Yet you had the guts to criticise JDs who call themselves Drs. What
separates you from them?
Amadioha-Ozuzu is a just god. Apparently, it is the curse of Amadioha
that irks you the most. Fine. People like you who lie without
compunction, without remorse must be made to account.
I have made no allegations against you. You alledged, without proof (and
Maurice came to your support) that I must be Mary Anderson. I asked you
for proof. Rather to provide it, you have been behaving in true fashion
like those who knew you during your days in the back alleyways of Camden
NJ and Philadelphia described.
I will not answer your question because it is beyond disdain. And let me
tell you this. Ozuzu is in my neck of the woods. One of the things one
is instructed is never to invoke Amadioha when YOU ARE WRONG. Amadioha is
like a boomerang. If you invoke it when you are the aggressor it come
back to you. So, be warned.
Come off high horse. Acknowledge that you lied - as is your wont. Tell
the square that you wrongly accused me. That won't make you any less of
the Dictionary-swallowing non-Professor pROFESSOR that you are.
I was compelled to respond to this mail to advise you against invoking
Amadioha in vain - especially when you know you are the aggressor. You
will hurt yourself. Don't do it.
okn
------------------------- end of message +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > > > > > on Kas, then HE should do the swearing by "Amadioha Ozuzu." If it is on
Kalu N. Kalu
>On Sun, 29 Nov 1998, kasirim nwuke wrote:
Please just answer the questions posed to you? Do you also accept the
corrections given to you so far? All these your other silly assumptions
are typical, and are nothing other than the desperate wailings of a
deranged maniac. Ewu madu.
Still waiting for your answers!!
Ndukwe Kalu Kalu.
uzo
I will surely not engage you for it will be unhelpful.
Your "battle" with OKN started well ahead of the current discuss. Both of
you had many times used similar strong languages on each other.
Keep well
Uzo
-----Original Message-----
From: Kalu N. Kalu <nk...@pantheon.yale.edu>
To: uzo <uzo...@iwwn.com.na>
Cc: igbo...@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu <igbo...@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu>
Date: dimanche 29 novembre 1998 20:38
Subject: Re: Maurice Ene's Stipulated ethnic entity
>
>>On Sun, 29 Nov 1998, uzo wrote:
>
>Uzo:
>
>This is a very irresponsible statement from you, and which indicates you
>have not followed the issue. It is unfortunate that you among many have
>chosen to stay on the sidelines and lurk from the shadows, when a renegade
>attempts not only to insult but to re-write the history of the Igbos. Uzo,
>while others are still claiming to be chairman of this and that Igbo
>organization, you have also chosen to hide and keep quiet, but all the
>while the house was set on fire by an outsider. And finally, if you as
>others have nothing meaningful to say, please do not say anything.
>
>
>Best wishes to you.
>
>Kalu.
>
>
>> KNK and OKN,
>>
>>
>> As I read the hate for each other emanating from both of you, I ponder to
>> ask what will happen if one day your children of opposite sex fall in
love
>> with each other.
>>
>>
>> For the love of God and humanity can this hate be halted.
>>
>>
>> May God asssit both of you in changing your perception of each other.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Uzo
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kalu N. Kalu <nk...@pantheon.yale.edu>
>> To: igbo...@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu <igbo...@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu>
>> Date: dimanche 29 novembre 1998 0:25
>> Subject: Re: Maurice Ene's Stipulated ethnic entity
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >>On Sat, 28 Nov 1998, kasirim nwuke wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >Kasirim Nwa-uke, the thieving Ikwerre-Igbo rogue:
>> >
>> >You have disdainfully refused to answer the question posed to you? You
>> >have yourself admitted that you do not know anything about the Igbere's,
>> >but didn't you say it was located near a "river?" Can you now tell us
>> >where the Ikwerre-Igbos migrated from? What is the origin of their
language
>> >and names? What is the meaning of the "O" in your first name? Why has
>> >"Mary Anderson" (remember him) not sent a single mail to Igbo--net since
>> >"he" was exposed as a degenerate? In my area, we call people like you
>> >"Onye ori."
>> >
>> >Now, I will answer your silly questions, and I hope you learn from them,
>> >thief man. Will you now answer the questions that were posed to you, or
>> >will you flounder and kiss as usual.
>> >
>> >> Ndukwe:
>> >>
>> >> a. What name do you have on your diploma from Rutgers? Is it Kalu
Ndukwe
>> >> Kalu or is Ndukwe K. Kalu?
>> >
>> >It is Kalu Ndukwe Kalu, B.Sc Environmental Science
>> > B.A Philosophy
>> >
>> >
>> >> b. By what name where you known at that College in Texas - Lamar was
it?
>> >> Was it Ndukwe K. Kalu or was it Kalu N. Kalu?
>> >
>> >Never been at a college in Texas, it is a university.
>> >
>> >As usual, Kalu Ndukwe Kalu.
>> >
>> >
>> >> c. By what name are you known in New Haven (when you were there?)?
>> >
>> >No, not that fast, I am still there. Or is this one of your usual ruses
>> >to find out. You little pot-bellied bastard.
>> >
>> >>Is it Ndukwe K. Kalu or Kalu N. Kalu? If you are confused plse look at
>> >>your login name. What does it say? KNK (I know you too ...:-) or NKK?
>> >
>> >I always knew you have a very shallow mind and would be so stupid to
fall
>> >for that. Look at you and your reason for calling me Ndukwe Kalu Kalu.
Do
>> >you now see how stupid you look to the rest of the world, a fool living
in
>> >a made-for-drama bogus world?
>> >
>> >I thought that you had awhile ago "dutifully" explained that I changed
>> >my name because there was a Dr. Kalu Idika Kalu, who was then being
spoken
>> >in good favor? And so I changed my name to "rub-off" on him? Didn't you
say
>> >that? Have you now changed your incredible story on that too? And yet,
>> >this is the level of reasoning we should expect from a
gOVERNOR-in-waiting
>> >for Rivers state. BTW, how do you define "useless" and "insanity?" Do
you
>> >think Igbo--net is naijanet where they glorify fools for nothing?
>> >
>> >Listen and for the last time, I have nothing to do with the login
"nkk3."
>> >It is computer generated using the alphabets of ones names in a
staggered
>> >fashion. The system does not allow individuals to chose their Login Id.
As
>> >it stands, I am the 3rd person who has been assigned an "nkk" as a
login.
>> >There is also an "nkk1" and "nkk2." But if you prefer to call me Ndukwe
>> >Kalu Kalu, fine alright. Or you can ask your "good friend" KKD, he'll
tell
>> >you the truth better than me (as long as you do not betray him).
>> >
>> >
>> >> d. I fail to understand why you cannot say the truth. Not even to
>> >> yourself! Is it the frustration of exile? Of dashed hopes and
>> >> expectation? Of pompous ego come to naught? What is it?
>> >
>> >Refer to the above
Tony
"Wepu aka enwe n'ofe", it has already become a human hand!
I did say I was not interested in this and that evidence, but what have you
done since then? One abomination after the other. Aru! Don't forget that
all you are doing now is spitting on Ala Igbo and umu Igbo are graciously
noting. To be honest with you, I love to be CIVIL but I am actually
MECHANICAL.
You have not told us this thing you want to 'iron out' with Ndi Igbo. Why
on earth did you choose Igbo net to repeat one of those fat white lies by
europeans to justify colonialism?
Just look at what you wrote:
>>On Igbo nation, I will like you to convince me that such a nation did
exist before the British came. Tell me what the mythologies of that nation
are? Any stories of shared ancestry.
So you want to tell us that the Brithish created or discovered Ala Igbo?
Haba! My brother, which one you no dey sef? This is one reason why racism
means another thing whenever it is applied to Black africans. There is
definitely no need to convince you. As nwa Ahiara who does not believe in
the history of migration, I know that the Igbo nation existed long before
the rampaging vandals from europe invaded Ala Igbo and other African soil.
In fact Ahiara which is part of Ala Igbo was founded with OFO IRI fron the
same day the world started. DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
Take it or leave it, you don't need to be Igbo before our 'dislocated'
brothers and sisters in the present rivers and cross-river will begin to
retrace their root.
And on a serious note, if you don't think there was an Igbo nation before
the Brits came you, Dr. O Kasirim Nwuke, cannot stop the emergence of an
Igbo nation after the Brits leave.
Were ire gi guo eze gi onu, and join your brothers while there is still
much room for that.
By the way, what happened to your divorce suit against nigeria? Do you need
a JD? I can recommend an Igbo DJ if the case is still on.
Have a blessed week as you decide to leave Ndi Igbo alone. That is "ka anyi
n*uo mmiri kowe otipko.
Ifeanyi
p.s sashimi (raw fish) is actually the best of them all especially when you
take it with wasabi (hot spice) You wan try?- as my warri friends go
talkam.
kasirim nwuke
Something I try very hard to do is not discuss my person. I will send you
a cheque for $100:00 if you can provide evidence where I defined my
ethnicity. I place not a hoot on ethnicity, it is a social construct.
okn
---
On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, Magnus I. Ekwueme wrote:
> Obi:
>
> Please permit me to butt into this side show. Do you remember that OKN
> flatly told us here that he is not Igbo? After attempts to show him how and
> why he is Igbo failed, I pleaded for our folks to let come from wherever he
> wished. We all know that the people in question, the Ikwerres, are Igbos
> but the neo-ethnitists are bent on removing anything that suggests any
> linkage to Igbo from the names of their villages as evidenced by the Rs.
> There have never been second class Igbo citizens and we will be foolhardy to
> start one now. The only time there was a thing closely relating to second
> classism was during the ohu/oru days which have has since been expunged from
> our vernacular. In this instance, I believe we are all in the same ballpark
> but when one refuses to acknowledge his closeness to you, what is the use
> trying. We are not known for refusing or denying our own even if he were
> the town crazy. In this Dallas area, the Igbo Community of Nigeria was
> having one of those their yearly parties and invited all Igbo parochial
> organizations. Know what happened? The Ikwerre group here did not respond
> and when their leader was confronted, he said that their anger was that we
> referred to them as Igbo brothers. "They are not ndiigbo", they maintained
> rather forcefully. We let them alone because mgbe I kporo mmadu nwa nne gi
> ya ewere aja kpoo gi n'ihu, my brother, you have to apologize, eat your
> words and go your merry way. Ubochi ozokwa, you dare not call him brother
> again. This is the way I look at it.
>
> Birikwa nu!
> Magnus
>
>
>