New Zealand Beer
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Jeremy Lawrence
>does anyone know where somebody can get some N.Z. beer besides Steinlagers?
N.Z.
Martin D. Hunt
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Roy T. Fielding
>does anyone know where somebody can get some N.Z. beer besides Steinlagers?
A much better brew is exported by Dominion Breweries and is called Kiwi Lager.
It is a little more difficult to find, but definitely worth the search.
It comes in 12 oz. (approx.) green bottles with gold-foil tops.
Does anyone reading this know which DB (if any) this corresponds to in N.Z.?
......Roy Fielding ICS Grad Student, University of California, Irvine
Andrew Manning
>A much better brew is exported by Dominion Breweries and is called Kiwi Lager.
Oh my God! You can't be serious! Or else, you can't be a New Zealander! We
don't drink the stuff, that's probably why they have to export it all :-)
Andrew
Andy Bond
>
>>does anyone know where somebody can get some N.Z. beer besides Steinlagers?
>
>A much better brew is exported by Dominion Breweries and is called Kiwi Lager.
>It is a little more difficult to find, but definitely worth the search.
>It comes in 12 oz. (approx.) green bottles with gold-foil tops.
>
>Does anyone reading this know which DB (if any) this corresponds to in N.Z.?
Kiwi lager is the same in NZ. It isn't as widely available as
Steinlager in NZ. DB Export Dry is the beer they fight Steinlager
with over here.
andy
Jeremy Lawrence
>>>does anyone know where somebody can get some N.Z. beer besides Steinlagers?
>> N.Z.
>Some of the pubs sell Aussie beer as well. I can't imagine why ;-)
Do you mean Fosters, XXXX, VB, etc?
They're NZ beers too, now :-) .
Jeremy
John Wilkin
made in Australia but its owned by New Zealanders anyway. Poor Alan
Bond -- if he couldn't make money selling beer to Australian's it's a
wonder he made money at all.
Roy T. Fielding
A much better brew is exported by Dominion Breweries and is called Kiwi Lager.
aman...@acd.acd.ucar.edu (Andrew Manning) writes:
>Oh my God! You can't be serious! Or else, you can't be a New Zealander! We
>don't drink the stuff, that's probably why they have to export it all :-)
>Andrew
Only half New Zealander and of course I'm serious. Think of the other "fine"
beers I have to choose from -- Coors, Bud, ... Any beer from N.Z. beats
those hands down.
The only place in the U.S. that I know of that brews beer of quality
comparable to New Zealand is Portland, Oregon. If you are ever there,
stop by one of the many MacMinamen's (sp?) Pubs and order a pint of
Widmer Weizen. _________.
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Better yet, stop by the brewery and get a whole keg (:v). \_/
.......Roy Fielding ICS Grad Student, University of California, Irvine
Jason Harris
Rest assured. Alan Bond amy not have been able to make money selling
beer to Australians, but Kerry packer certainly made money by selling
television stations to Alan Bond.
Jason.
L J Groves
>does anyone know where somebody can get some N.Z. beer besides Steinlagers?
Sure -- I think EVERY bottle store and wholesaler in New Zealand sells
N.Z. beer other than Steinlager!
If that wasn't the answer you wanted, may I politely suggest that you rephrase
your question to make it somewhat more specific. (-:
Cheers
Lindsay
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Paul Thompson
> In article <29E2449...@ics.uci.edu> fiel...@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Roy T. F
> >A much better brew is exported by Dominion Breweries and is called Kiwi Lage
>
> Oh my God! You can't be serious! Or else, you can't be a New Zealander! We
> don't drink the stuff, that's probably why they have to export it all :-)
*REAL* drinkers drink a DRAUGHT, lagers are *DISGUSTING*... Why is it
only our lagers are exported? Why not export Waikato? (The best beer
under the sun)
Cheers, Paul.
... Now, where did I put that bottle of Waikato?
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Derek Tearne
in this years brewers expo in the U.K. Perhaps you don't like the taste
but then theres no accounting for that :-). Actually all the 'Lager' in
New Zealand tastes pretty much the same to me. Actaully Lager the whole
world over tastes pretty much the same! Steinlager is my favourite.
ObUL: All the 'beer' produced in New Zealand ( no matter what it says
on the bottle ) is 'lager'. This is because all the yeast in New Zealand is
lager yeast.
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Ian Franklin
>aman...@acd.acd.ucar.edu (Andrew Manning) writes:
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>*REAL* drinkers drink a DRAUGHT, lagers are *DISGUSTING*... Why is it
>only our lagers are exported? Why not export Waikato? (The best beer
>under the sun)
>
>Cheers, Paul.
> ... Now, where did I put that bottle of Waikato?
>
Well said. Waikato is truly a great beer along with Tuis East India
Pale Ale. Also this new DB Bitter seems to be quite acceptable.
These would be much better to export than the lagers.
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Robert Ashcroft
Anyone drink anything from the Strongcroft micro-brewery in Petone?
Care to comment on it?
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Joerg Steinke
>does anyone know where somebody can get some N.Z. beer besides Steinlagers?
Unfortunately beer in NZ is brewed the unpatient way :
stir all ingredients up, boil a bit, ferment a bit, chill a bit, pipe this
lemonade into cans and bottles and inject carbon dioxide before the lid
goes on.
Low alcohol, high headache.
While you are over there, in Juneau, Alaska there is a small brewery
called CHINOOK ... and they b r e w real beer !!
"Chinook Amber" is my favourite.
With compliments, Joerg
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Roy T. Fielding
>tur...@tornado.welly.gen.nz (Paul Thompson) writes:
>>aman...@acd.acd.ucar.edu (Andrew Manning) writes:
>>
>>*REAL* drinkers drink a DRAUGHT, lagers are *DISGUSTING*... Why is it
>>only our lagers are exported? Why not export Waikato? (The best beer
>>under the sun)
>>
>>Cheers, Paul.
>> ... Now, where did I put that bottle of Waikato?
>>
>Well said. Waikato is truly a great beer along with Tuis East India
>Pale Ale. Also this new DB Bitter seems to be quite acceptable.
>These would be much better to export than the lagers.
Great idea!!! Just send a case or two to the address below.
I'll be sure to summarize the results of my taste test to this newsgroup.
........Roy Fielding
o.o Department of Information & Computer Science
\_/ University of California
Irvine, CA 92717
U.S.A.
p.s. Be sure to send it Airmail -- I'm already thirsty.
Martin D. Hunt
I suppose you're right. I forgot about the Aussie beers being bought out. I
was referring to XXXX (the beer for Aussies who can't spell). In my opinion
it is definitely inferior to the New Zealand beers. Fosters is what Qantas
serves when you ask for a beer - they don't know the difference between
beer and lager. It is usually so well shaken up that most of it ends up on
the tray table.
It seems strange that a lot of pubs here stock some of the Aussie brews,
and yet not much of it gets exported between states in Aussie. The same
goes for other things. A year ago my friends in South Oz told me about a
great new drink call "Bundaberg Ginger Beer". They were very surprised when
I said "Oh yes, great drink, I've been drinking it for a few years in NZ".
As for beer, I was glad to get back into the real New Zealand stuff when I
got back from Oz.
Don Stokes
> Anyone drink anything from the Strongcroft micro-brewery in Petone?
> Care to comment on it?
Vast quantities of the stuff seem to go down the gullets of University
staff club patrons every Friday night. It's pretty good -- on a par with
Black Mac (from McCashin's brewery in Nelson), which also gets a good
thrashing.
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> aman...@acd.acd.ucar.edu (Andrew Manning) writes:
>
> *REAL* drinkers drink a DRAUGHT, lagers are *DISGUSTING*...
Lager's are disgusting? Have you tried Mac's Gold? Very nice beer.
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Paul Thompson
Very good brew, didn't think it got far out of wgtn though. Had it at a
friends 21st, Come to think about it, it can't be that bad... I don't
remember the end of the evening.... (I would drink this if waikato wasn't
available...)
Cheers, Paul.
L J Groves
>aman...@acd.acd.ucar.edu (Andrew Manning) writes:
>
Hear, hear! As far as I'm concerned. Lager isn't beer at all, it's something
that non-beer drinkers drink (see end of message).
>Why not export Waikato? (The best beer under the sun)
In the days of Four X (who says it's only aussies who can't spell) I would
have agreed with you, but alas that fine brew is no more, and I'm not as keen
on the green label stuff -- though I prefer it to Lion and DB. These days
(when at home) I usually drink Strongcroft, which is a truly wonderful beer.
>Why is it only our lagers are exported?
There seems to be some kind of a myth in the marketting world that this is
what people want to drink (probably supported by the fact that that's the
only think that is offered to them). It may be related to the fact that the
most common beers in America and Europe are lager-like beer substitutes.
Does anyone know where we export the most beer to?
The same is true in aussie, just to hark back to some discussion a while ago
about how bad aussie beer is. The Australians actually make some very good
beer -- one of the first things I usually do when I go to Sydney is to head
for a pub to savour a "schooner" of Tooheys or Tooths Old (which are beers in
a similar style to Strongcrofts "Owd Jim"). But they aren't the beers that
are exported.
Come to that, these beers are not hugely popular in Oz, just as Waikato and
Strongcroft are not the most popular beers in NZ. Maybe its the masses who
don't appreciate good beer who are to blame!
Cheers
Lindsay
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... and enjoying some fine British ales!
When I go to a bar and ask for beer, and the barperson says "Yes, would you
like Steinlager or Joseph Kutz?", I am frequently know to reply: "No, I would
like *beer*!". (Unfortunately, the point is usually lost on them.)
sl...@waikato.ac.nz
>>does anyone know where somebody can get some N.Z. beer besides Steinlagers?
>
> Unfortunately beer in NZ is brewed the unpatient way :
> stir all ingredients up, boil a bit, ferment a bit, chill a bit, pipe this
> lemonade into cans and bottles and inject carbon dioxide before the lid
> goes on.
> Low alcohol, high headache.
Couldn't agree more. There are, however, some very good breweries. Two that
come to mind, from a not so recent brewery crawl around Auckland, are
Brofords (Waitakari Brewing company???)
Stokan.
The Stokan brews were great. Real nice, but they (IMHO) lacked balls!
Brofords Hooker Ale. Now thats a damn nice beer. Quite sweet, Thick and Malty
tasting. Stronger and a hell of a lot nicer (IMHO) than the fabled Elephant
beer, but then that's nice enough too. Brofords (or is it Waitakari B....) are
open on Saturday morning, just great for a trip up from Hamilton.
I spose Auckland does have some advantages after all. I mean, they make Waikato
there now too!
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Mr Stokes, who posted earlier, also appreciates a fine brew. McCashins,
Black Mac is a dark brew with a creamy froth, reminiscient of Guinness,
but with its own distictive taste, makes me thirsty just thinking about it!
Speights have recently released a new lager called Speights Gold. It tasted
vaguely metallic to me but my wife liked it so the six pack was hers. New
Zealand Breweries have also released Red Label, what they call a 100% natural
beer; for the green drinkers I suppose. I just happened to have a couple of
these in the weekend and its not a bad brew but give me a McCashins or
Speights *** any day of the week.
Cheers!!
Clive H. Boock, University of Otago, New Zealand.
L J Groves
>Vast quantities of the stuff seem to go down the gullets of University
>staff club patrons every Friday night. It's pretty good -- on a par with
>Black Mac (from McCashin's brewery in Nelson), which also gets a good
>thrashing.
Then Clive Boock says:
> Mr Stokes, who posted earlier, also appreciates a fine brew. McCashins,
>Black Mac is a dark brew with a creamy froth, reminiscient of Guinness,
>but with its own distictive taste, makes me thirsty just thinking about it!
Black Mac is quite nice, but VERY sweet. I once made the mistake of drinking
some after drinking the good ol' Waikato XXXX. The Black Mac was so sweet in
contrast to the Waikato, I couldn't drink it (I will refrain from giving a
more detailed account of the physiological reaction it had).
I might add that this occurred at the aforementioned University Staff Club,
and that the same patrons who now consume the vast quantities of Strongcroft
(I believe we are their biggest cutomer!) used to consume vast quantities of
Waikato XXXX when it was still available.
If I want something darker and heavier that Strongroft Best Bitter, I'll have
a Strongcroft Owd Jim, or even a Tui Stout.
Cheers
Lindsay
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>Clive H. Boock, University of Otago, New Zealand.
Hmmm -- a Boock from Otago -- not a cricketer by any chance?
Mark Moir
>Brofords Hooker Ale. Now thats a damn nice beer. Quite sweet, Thick and Malty
>tasting. Stronger and a hell of a lot nicer (IMHO) than the fabled Elephant
>beer, but then that's nice enough too. Brofords (or is it Waitakari B....) are
>open on Saturday morning, just great for a trip up from Hamilton.
My God, are you serious? I don't question your judgement, but I should
share my only experience with Brofords. It was in about 1986. It was
on sale for $1 per dozen cans (not a typo). We were poor students, and
bought up dozens and dozens of this stuff for a party. Some of the more
committed drinkers (not including myself, of course), managed to drink
some of it, but most of it was just thrown on people. About one can in
six tasted as though it had a cigarette butt in it! Uuuggghhh! Anyway,
glad to hear that they make good beer as well.
Cheers
Mark
Paul Thompson
> tur...@tornado.welly.gen.nz (Paul Thompson) writes:
>
> > aman...@acd.acd.ucar.edu (Andrew Manning) writes:
> >
> > *REAL* drinkers drink a DRAUGHT, lagers are *DISGUSTING*...
>
> Lager's are disgusting? Have you tried Mac's Gold? Very nice beer.
Yes. I've been drinking Mac's beers since I was about 10, (My grandfather
buys the stuff). Back in the good old days when you could only get Mac's
in Nelson/Blenhiem area. Even after that experience I *DON'T* like most
lagers, You wanna see my reaction to stienies :-)
ham...@waikato.ac.nz
> aman...@acd.acd.ucar.edu (Andrew Manning) writes:
>
>> In article <29E2449...@ics.uci.edu> fiel...@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Roy T. F
>> >A much better brew is exported by Dominion Breweries and is called Kiwi Lage
>>
>> Oh my God! You can't be serious! Or else, you can't be a New Zealander! We
>> don't drink the stuff, that's probably why they have to export it all :-)
>
>
> *REAL* drinkers drink a DRAUGHT, lagers are *DISGUSTING*... Why is it
> only our lagers are exported? Why not export Waikato? (The best beer
> under the sun)
>
> Cheers, Paul.
> ... Now, where did I put that bottle of Waikato?
>
Yay! A man with taste!! I have to admit that I used to like lager (And before
that Double Brown), but as time has worn on (God does that make me feel old...)
I find I like a more bitter brew. Nothing nowdays can really compare with
waikato. (Even though it is made in dorkland now :( )
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