What is NZ TV? NTSC? PAL? SECAM
Paul Burkimsher
What standard is NZ broadcasting? (ie technical,
don't just say "great or rubbish"!) ;-)
Is all TV transmission domestic, or are there any
satellites hovering over there? What do they carry?
Many thanks,
Paul
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Michael Cree
: What's the situation re bringing in "foreign" TVs?
: What standard is NZ broadcasting? (ie technical,
: don't just say "great or rubbish"!) ;-)
:
: Is all TV transmission domestic, or are there any
: satellites hovering over there? What do they carry?
The NZ standard is 50Hz PAL, like what is in Australia and Europe.
All local transmission is terrestial based, however there are some
foreign satellites hovering above which one can recieve foreign
TV from.
However the content of NZ TV is indeed rubbish (and that's being nice).
: Paul
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Matthew Richard Buchanan
As compared to what?? It may be rubbish but it's a collection of the best
rubbish from around the world. I've watched TV in a fair number of countries
and I wouldn't be complaining if I were you. So we need more cable stations.
It's not THAT bad, really.
>: Paul
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Derek Tearne
>What's the situation re bringing in "foreign" TVs?
>What standard is NZ broadcasting? (ie technical,
>don't just say "great or rubbish"!) ;-)
N.Z. uses a PAL system. Don't know if you can directly import a British
TV and expect it to work though. My mothers video camera required some
tweaking before we (succesfully) got a picture. There was a specific setting
for this part of the world so I suspect some subtle differences in the
standard.
>Is all TV transmission domestic, or are there any
>satellites hovering over there? What do they carry?
Australian TV can be obtained by satelite and some of the bigger Motels and
Hotels have enormous dishes outside for this purpose.
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sl...@waikato.ac.nz
> TV and expect it to work though. My mothers video camera required some
> tweaking before we (succesfully) got a picture. There was a specific setting
> for this part of the world so I suspect some subtle differences in the
> standard.
I beleive that there are two different versions of PAL, namely PAL B and PAL G.
SECAM is reasonably close, but not quite. NTSC (Never Twice the Same Colour) has
at least the two variations 3.something and 4.43 (I think.) Maybee the type of
PAL transmission is subtly different between what is sold in britain and here?
It shouldn't matter with a good TV, it should be able to handle the differences.
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H.S. Jones
New Zealand works on 50 Hz PAL B system.
Most broadcasts are in the VHF bands but SKY and other new stations
intend to use the UHF band as well.
Most of the videos are VHS PAL. BETA tapes and equipment is scarce.
It is the same as Australia as far as I know but uses a different
sub carrier for sound from the British version of PAL which I think
is PAL I. The letter after PAL is used to specify the sub carrier.
This only (??) affects the reception of broadcast signals and does
not affect the exchange of video tapes between the countries using
the PAL format. It is difficult to change the sub carrier frequency
in the television and videos and not recommended.
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Andrew Manning
>
>However the content of NZ TV is indeed rubbish (and that's being nice).
>
I get the impression you haven't been subjected to American TV, so as to
put that above statement in it's appropriate comparative context.
Andrew
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comparative context. What the amerikans couldn't accomplish with their
ecomomic and military big stick they are now achieving through the cultural
imperialism of television. The sad part is that as viewers we have meekly
allowed it to happen, and to continue. While many countries are sensitivity
to the dumping of consumer goods at below production costs, the same concerns
don't seem to apply to the dumping of mind numbing garbage. There seems to
be an irony here in that the anti-pornography/nudity/violence groups will jump
up and down and spend large sums of money trying to control what people are not
allowed to view without the slightest concern that what is permitted will soon
undermine everyones ability to distinguish between quality and mediocrity or
important and trivial. Rubbish and more rubbish and most of it from the folks
that spoon fed us the fifteen second segments of Desert Storm.
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R Clement
After having lived in several countries, I'm starting to wonder where
the good television is.....
But, who needs television when you've got USENET!! :-)
Cheers,
Ross-c
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January for a couple of months. It's clear where you get your opinion
of U.S. TV from - N.Z. imports the worst of all possible shows.
Hilariously enough, "Married with Children" was assessed by a N.Z.
reviewer as being a bold and innovative show that is daring and
provocative. So I find it hard to believe that the U.S. forces this
stuff on N.Z. in any way. I've just finished watching the PBS series
on the Kennedies - is TVNZ buying that? How about The Civil War
series? There *is* quality programming available in the U.S. but it
does require some viewer discrimination (correction: * a lot* of
viewer discrimination) and this tactic of blaming the producer because
the viewer does not have the backbone to make his/her own choices is
pretty shoddy. Is the irony of your final quote intentional? You
certainly don't know the path you haven't walked. Still, easier to
blame the U.S. than admit that people actually like what you consider
to be mindless programming (I consider it that, too, but I'm not
willing to impose that judgement on others.) One final note:
certainly the worst television show I saw in N.Z. and perhaps the
worst I've seen anywhere, was "Holmes" but I'm sure the U.S. is
responsible for that too, somehow?
Bernard Adrian Frankpitt
> In article <1992Oct1.2...@massey.ac.nz>, D.B...@massey.ac.nz (David Burns) writes:
>
>
> of U.S. TV from - N.Z. imports the worst of all possible shows.
> Hilariously enough, "Married with Children" was assessed by a N.Z.
> reviewer as being a bold and innovative show that is daring and
> provocative. So I find it hard to believe that the U.S. forces this
> stuff on N.Z. in any way. I've just finished watching the PBS series
> on the Kennedies - is TVNZ buying that? How about The Civil War
> series? There *is* quality programming available in the U.S. but it
> does require some viewer discrimination (correction: * a lot* of
>
I agree that PBS is the saving grace of the US TV system. The consistently
come out with quality shows that cover a wide range of programming. Especially
nice is the fact that the programming is uninterrupted by advertisements except
during pledge weeks.
I cannot agree with you about Married with Children, I think that it
is a great show, especially if you don't see it too often. Politically it
is rather current at the moment with all the nausiating attention that is being
paid to "Family Values" in the current presidential campaign.
I sure hope that N.Z. politics isn't being driven by a bunch of fascists
like the ones that turned up to the Republican Convention in Texas. How big is
the "religious right" in New Zealand politics these days?
Lloyd Pallesen
>> The evaluation of NZ television programmes as rubbish is clearly within a
>> comparative context. What the amerikans couldn't accomplish with their
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>I'm a Kiwi currently living in the U.S. and I returned to N.Z. in
>January for a couple of months. It's clear where you get your opinion
>of U.S. TV from - N.Z. imports the worst of all possible shows.
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>certainly the worst television show I saw in N.Z. and perhaps the
>worst I've seen anywhere, was "Holmes" but I'm sure the U.S. is
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>responsible for that too, somehow?
I second this motion, "Holmes" is probably the worst show of its or any kind
anywhere except when he is not presenting it. He is at his most objectionable
when he is fawning over some celebretary (sp??) usually American, asking the
most inane questions, most recently asking Ted Dansons wife if she was jealous
of him working with beautiful women.
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Liron Lightwood
>I beleive that there are two different versions of PAL, namely PAL B and PAL G.
>SECAM is reasonably close, but not quite. NTSC (Never Twice the Same Colour) has
>at least the two variations 3.something and 4.43 (I think.) Maybee the type of
>PAL transmission is subtly different between what is sold in britain and here?
Australia and New Zealand use PAL system B & G.
The only difference between system B and System G is the channel spacing.
In system B, the channels are 7 Mhz apart, whereas in system G, they are 8
Mhz apart. Other aspects of the systems are identical (I'll check this tonight
and if necessary, post corrections tomorrow).
System B is used on the VHF band, whereas system G is used on the UHF band.
However, in Australia (don't know about NZ), system B is also used on the
UHF band, but the transmitted signal is the same anyway, so it doesn't
really matter.
PAL system B & G are also used in continental Western Europe (except for France)
and in some middle Eastern (eg. Israel and Jordan), Asian (eg. Singapore,
Malaysia, Thailand) and African countries.
PAL system I has a different audio/video frequency separation to PAL system
B & G, and is used in the UK, Ireland, South Africa, Hong Kong, and (I think)
Macau.
There is also a PAL System N used in parts of South America.
Video tapes recorded using PAL system B, G & I are interchangeable. Don't
know about PAL System N though.
>It shouldn't matter with a good TV, it should be able to handle the differences.
There are multi-standard TV's available which will receive them all.
Hope this helps.
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Liron Lightwood
>sl...@waikato.ac.nz writes:
>>I beleive that there are two different versions of PAL, namely PAL B and PAL G.
>>SECAM is reasonably close, but not quite. NTSC (Never Twice the Same Colour) has
>>at least the two variations 3.something and 4.43 (I think.) Maybee the type of
>>PAL transmission is subtly different between what is sold in britain and here?
>PAL system B & G are also used in continental Western Europe (except for France)
>and in some middle Eastern (eg. Israel and Jordan), Asian (eg. Singapore,
>Malaysia, Thailand) and African countries.
Just one correction: Greece does not use PAL.
dog...@dogbox.acme.gen.nz
> There is also a PAL System N used in parts of South America.
If the info I have on South American TV is correct, PAL N is a modified
version of NTSC.
ie: 525 lines, 60 Hz, 3.57Mhz luminance/chrominance intercarrier spacing
but PAL coding.
This is perfectly feasable, as PAL is an enhancement of NTSC, and the
reason for the colourburst frequency being different between most
systems is due to the difference between 525line 60Hz and 625line 50Hz.
( I have seen 625 line 50Hz NTSC. That is what multistandard monitors
refer to when they mention NTSC 4.43 )
The difference between PAL B and G is immaterial these days, as almost
all TV tuners are continuously tunable, whereas in the (bad) old days,
it would have made a big difference to rotary tuners.
On a happier note for the world TV and video market, it would seem that
a lot of manufacturers are changing to multistandard decoders, with
universal power supplies. It does make sense, as then they don't have to
produce up to 20 varients of each model.
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Forrest Cook
>If the info I have on South American TV is correct, PAL N is a modified
>version of NTSC.
This discussion wouldn't be complete
without mentioning that
NTSC means "Never Twice the Same Colo(u)r"
:-) :-)
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Ove rhere the Format is PAL, Im not sure wehter a NTSC or Secam set will
operate properly here or not..
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>> What's the situation re bringing in "foreign" TVs?
>> What standard is NZ broadcasting? (ie technical,
>> don't just say "great or rubbish"!) ;-)
>>
The other point to bear in mind is that some TV transmissions in NZ
are on VHF frequencies, others are on UHF, depending on the area.
Most TVs sold in NZ are capable of receiving both, whereas I recall
that many sets in Britain are UHF only.
Chris