Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

MUSLIM CONTRIBUTION TO EUROPE

1 view
Skip to first unread message

Anti-Muslim Bigots

unread,
Feb 12, 2008, 5:38:05 AM2/12/08
to
MUSLIM CONTRIBUTION TO EUROPE
Monday, 11 February 2008

In part, this educated presenter, Dr. Hussain, sought to clarify the dual forces in world
historiography which have kept buried the positive relationship which Islam provided the West
approximately a millennia ago--essentially helping the West to eventually exit the Dark Ages
and Middle Ages by providing it with higher levels of scientific, medical, astronomic, and
mechanical insight. This technological insight had (a) never existed in Western Europe after
the Fall of Rome, and/or (b) had been forgotten or lost. Most interestingly, Dr. Hussain
pointed out that the Islamic sciences and academics of the 7th to 12th Islamic had made virtual
quantum leaps in the sciences and mathematics over their predecessors-- Greeks, Indians, and
Persians--who had historically influenced scientific and medical developments in the Middle East.

Moreover, within the sphere of tolerance, Dr. Hussain, in his short lecture, noted that
institutions of learning in Spanish Cordoba and Sicilian Palermo set up by Muslim (and a few
non-Muslims) academics greatly influenced directly and indirectly many European educators and
scientist throughout the first centuries of the second Millennium A.D.

For example, many of the medical doctors and others who founded and built up Oxford University
in England had studied (or learned from those who had studied) in Spain at the schools and
libraries founded by Muslims there after the 8th Century.

As well, Renaissance artists, scientists, and universal-men, such as Leonardo Da Vinci, were
directly influenced by works written and sketches drawn by Islamic scientists and writers, such
as Al-Kindi’s work on “proportions”.

As well, many “un-copyrighted” works from Arab and Islamic scholars served as the basis for
many of the medical books produced in the early days of the printing press.

These are some of the areas in which Islamic institutions blossomed, while Europe as a whole
was trying to find its way out of the Dark Ages: agriculture, medicine, pharmacy, irrigation,
nutrition, dental care, architecture, urbanization, education, urbanization, astronomy, trade,
and economy


TOLERANCE

In terms of tolerance, Dr. Hussain, takes a wide view of history and includes a broad
definition of tolerance—a definition which bridges upon humanistic definitions. He looks at the
Roman coliseum and asks whether Romans today are proud of what Imperial Rome had done to
citizens and non-citizens there in the name of entertainment.

Naturally, the Romans are not particularly proud of the Roman Circus, murders and fighting of
gladiators there. Dr. Hussein would ask Egyptians the same thing about the pyramids built on
the backs of so many mistreated and often unpaid laborers. Dr Hussein asks what other good
buildings might the laborers have constructed which would have benefited the entire people. In
this enquiry, he turns to the lasting institutions of the “masjids” and schools of learning and
to the hospitals created by the Islamic world a millennia ago states that those were things a
civilization both then and now could be proud of implementing and developing.


As both an archeologist who looks at artifacts of history and as a historian who looks at the
written contribution of civilizations, the speaker points out that the Islamic approach to
medical care and access was not only far ahead of any previous civilization in the
Mediterranean and Middle East. The tolerant attitude of the day in the world of Islam in its
hey-day (the first 5 or so centuries of Islam) was one of universal access, regardless as to
whether one was Muslim, Christian or Jew--all had access to the same level of medical care
within the Islamic realm, according to Dr. Hussain.

For Dr. Hussain, this sort of contribution to civilization is representative of a society that
is not only oriented towards the wealthy, powerful and elite, but is centered on greater
involvement of and respect for humanity

As far as gender relations in early Islamic societies were concerned, Dr. Hussain, noted that
female doctors and pharmacists practiced alongside male ones in those days—something that was
unheard of in Europe until 6 or 7 centuries later!

In terms of myths created in Europe about Muslims taking over the Christian world, Dr. Hussain
points out that in the 8th century, Spain had many different types of Christians during the
time of the evil Rodrick, a Visogoth King.

Rodrick was specifically persecuting those who were of the bent that Jesus had been a prophet
but had not been the son of God.

For this heresy and for many other reasons, many peoples in the Iberian Peninsula joined the
Moroccan invasion. As a matter of fact, Dr. Hussain states that several Spanish envoys from the
various persecuted- and downtrodden groups had been sent to the Islamic Moroccan leadership to
call for an expedition to help rid the peninsula of the Cruel Rodrick and his kin.

After Islamic military success, a model of tolerance was quickly set up on the Iberian
Peninsula for generations to come.

Jews, Christians and Muslims lived and cooperated together in Iberia under what was called
Andalusia. It was in Andalusia where many great centers of learning were set up—and which were
visited by scholars from all over the continent. Dr. Hussein notes that the library during
Islamic Cordoba’s Golden Era had tens of thousands of more books than did any of the libraries
of England and northern Europe.

CONTRIBUTIONS

Prior to the arrival of Islam in Spain, Spain was a European backwater.

Both the present capitals of Portugal and Spain—Madrid and Lisbon—were largely created by the
Muslims. Many other new cities were built, as well. Eventually, Islamic clock technology would
make its way across Europe. This would be followed by water wheels and water pumps for
irrigation and fountains.

Meanwhile, in terms of tolerance, the much-feared Vikings of Scandinavian Lands got along with
the Muslims quite well.

The coinage of trade in Scandinavia throughout the Viking domination of Northern Europe was of
Islamic origin. Dr. Hussain passed one such Islamic coin that had been found recently in Sweden
for the participants in the audience at the AWARE CENTER to see and to touch. Dr. Hussain
stated that Vikings traveled as far as to Baghdad in their trading journeys into the Islamic world.

Meanwhile, in Palermo and elsewhere in Southern Europe, Arabic scholarship in the sciences was
quietly being translated into Latin—even though the Roman church’s opposition to revealing
Islamic arts and sciences continued to be strong throughout the 2nd Millennium.

Similar to the Catholic churches demeaning of the contributions of the Arabs and Islam to
Europe, many prominent western scholars have often pooh-poohed the notion that Arabs and Islam
contributed much to the West in its Darkest hours.

Bertrand Russell was one such mid-guided scholar who demeaned Arab contribution to architecture
and sciences. Another biased author is the currently popular Western Civilization scholar
Felipe Fernando-Armesto who entitles his chapter on Islam: “The Tower of Darkness”.

“How did such bias hit even the ivory of towers like Oxford University in England?” asks Dr.
Hussain--a university that he claims cannot even write its own developmental or early history
without bowing to the scholarship carried out in Islamic Spain during Europe’s Dark Ages.

There are two explanations.

The first is that Western European institutions of higher learning were established and built
up originally primarily after the 16th to 18th Century, i.e. when the western European powers
of Spain, Portugal, England, France and other smaller nations had divided up most of the planet
into colonies under their hegemony. The archeology and history most sought by this particular
domineering western civilization of leaders was one that pointed its trail back to Rome—not
even to Greece!

This is because Greece and Greek literature and history had had next-to-no direct influence on
Western Europe until long after Rome had become Catholic.

Interestingly, during its own existence Imperial Rome had observed what today are England,
Spain, and northern Europe as periphery locations—far from its main concerns or interests in
Northern Africa and the Middle East, i.e. where Islam eventually blossomed.

In short, the victors of colonialization-era wrote modern world history for nearly the entire
most-recent 2 or 3 centuries of global .

These scholars and eventually shapers-of-politics looked not at China nor to the Islamic
histories, but instead created a myth of classical education that biased has continued to
politicians, religionists, and scholars in the west. Many of these elites, leaders, and media
moguls today are, starting from their years of education and training, incapable of perceiving
the need to reform the current lapses in historical memory and cross-cultural education by
revising educational curricula and creating a system of training that would enable present and
future generations to comprehend civilization and its development in a more balanced manner.


ISLAM’S COMPLICITY

The other major reason for the lack of appreciation for the contributions of Islam to the West
has to do with Islamic historians and educator’s approaches to teaching history.

That is, Islamic scholars, too, have been guilty of ignoring the links of Islamic civilization
with non-Muslim civilization historically.

This hyper-focus on teaching history through the eye of Islamic politics and religion have left
many in the Islamic world (and in the non-Islamic world) ignorant of historical contacts and
cross-cultural contributions & aspects of tolerance.
This hyper-Islamic bias in historiography leaves out vast important and positive histories of
trade and technological sharing/borrowing with China, Southeast Asia, the far-reaches-of
Africa, and many parts of the European continent.

For example, Tunisians had direct representation in Imperial Rome but the Anglo in England
didn’t have such a right. Is this distinction in our culture’s pre-civilization history
clarified any where in Islamic states concerning either courses on Western Civilization, on
Roman history or even in Islamic history classes? In short, Islamic histories are often blind
to many realities and pre-conditions to their own civilization.

In contrast to the West, though, Islamic Arabia has at times seen itself historically as rooted
in Persian, Indian, and Greek cultural empires.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Opinion/Editorial/LEADER_ARTICLE_A_War_On_Tolerance/articleshow/2771805.cms

BilgeKhan

unread,
Feb 12, 2008, 12:24:42 PM2/12/08
to
"Anti-Muslim Bigots" wrote
>
> MUSLIM CONTRIBUTION TO EUROPE
> TOLERANCE

Nobody buys such shameless lies of the Islamist propagandists.
Everybody knows, and especially the Muslims themselves (!), that
THERE IS NO TOLERANCE IN ISLAM !
Saying contrarary is a shameless lie of the Islamists!
Islam is an anti-democratic totalitarian system,
a very dangerous ideological system that produces
brain washed killer zombis/robots all just waiting for 'the order',
ie. 'sleepers' waiting for their sick 'holy' mission...

Islam must be banned from the western world!

Aviroce

unread,
Feb 12, 2008, 1:42:42 PM2/12/08
to
Jews changed references to Islamic scholars and replaced them by Jews
or Greeks regardless of their falsehoods. Now the world community is
going back to the drawing board to test the validity of Jewish history
and Jewish scholarship.

I posted some references on Arab/Islamic civilization. Search for
them.

You may purchase "Legacy of Islam" from PBS to get you first
enlightened.

Look at my name, Aviroce or Ibn Rushd. Ibn Rushd wrote "Allah created
the Universe and He let go of it." Europeans used be either killed or
put in prison if they read that. If you read my profile you will
notice "Ibn Sina," "Ibn Batuta," "Alfarabi" these are names of great
scholars in Islam. Alfarabi invented Logarithm which was used as a
computing process in slide rules for about one thoudand years. In
1974, the slide rule faded out with the advent of the calculator.

Panta Rhei

unread,
Feb 12, 2008, 2:58:37 PM2/12/08
to
BilgeKhan writes:

LMAO! Says the mentally handicapped, "tolerant" Turk who also wrote stuff
like the following:


Message-ID: <flm7er$tji$1...@aioe.org>
Jews are a big threat to the American nation! America does not need any
Jews!
-------------------------------
Message-ID: <fkj62u$e9n$1...@aioe.org>
ATTENTION! Jewish MOSSAD plans terror attack at Christmas!
-------------------------------
Watch out everywhere in the world!
The jewish terror organisation MOSSAD seems to plan a terror attack
at Christmas and/or NewYear!

-----------------------------------------

Message-ID: <fk7pk9$te7$1...@aioe.org>
That's the nature of the Jew, a typical backstabber...

------------------------------------------

Message-ID: <fk7lfc$ior$1...@aioe.org>
PATRIOT AMERICANS!
YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOUR HELP! MORE THAN EVER!
Watch out and report all suspect activities of the Jews
and their collaborators to the FBI here: https://tips.fbi.gov/
TIA!
---------------------------------------------

Message-ID: <figtc2$qo1$1...@aioe.org>
Mission Impossible: Jews and Peace

Q: Why are the Jews afraid of Annapolis?

A: Because it would bring peace to Middle East...
-------------------------------------------------------

Message-ID: <fiffjf$gke$1...@aioe.org>
Israel is the HQ of international crime

Israel - A Home For The Criminal Jews Of The World

Israel was created for saving and potecting criminal Jews of the world.
---------------------------------------------------------

Message-ID: <fk1ear$epa$1...@aioe.org>
Jewish vampires suck Michael Jackson, the King of Pop
-----------------------------------------------------------

Message-ID: <fia4f1$56h$1...@aioe.org>
The destruction of America by the Jews

The whole world is witnessing the destruction
of another great country, USA, by its highly organized jewish subjects...

God bless America
---------------------------------------------------------
Message-ID: <fiagk2$b23$1...@aioe.org>
Here's the Final Solution of the 'Jewish Question'

How to solve the Jewish Question

The best and humane solution would be to settle
all Jews of the world in the state of Nebraska, USA.
They must live only within the borders of Nebraska.
This solution is the best solution for the world;
the Middle East would have peace, and also everywhere
else on Earth would be justice and freedom...
----------------------------------------------------

Message-ID: <fij17d$jne$1...@aioe.org>

America is on the brink of a new civil war.
American rulers are incompetent warmongering fascist liars.
America has become a fascist police state.
America has a record debt.
The Americans are resignated, desillusioned, broken.
This all is just a part of 'The Plan'.
Jews were the planners of this catastrophe for America.
Today the jewish bankers are the owners of America's debts.
In other words: America is under total control by the world Jewry.
The plan of the world jewry is to dominate and control desired parts of the
world,
in other words to enslave other nations; in the end the whole world.

The jewish trick is as follows:

1) secretly create unrest, chaos, cathastrophes, terror attacks, wars

2) offer the victim your "service" (ie. lending money) for a solution of
the problem

3) continue secretly creating unrest, chaos, cathastrophes, terror attacks,
wars

4) lend the victim the money he needs to be able to end this chaos
(of course with some certain secret conditions, and high interests of
course...)

Now the future of this victim country is in the hands of the jews...


Ask how they did to England in the past to force them
to give Palestine for the creation of the jewish state Israel.
England is still under their total control.
Now is America their victim...
Their goal is of course making huge profits and control of the world,
finally a jewish world domination by enslaving the goyim (ie. the non-jews)
Jewish money rules the world...


F'up to SCT where this racist swine's garbage belongs.

Benjamin

unread,
Feb 12, 2008, 3:19:33 PM2/12/08
to
> > Islam must be banned from the western world!- Masquer le texte des messages précédents -
>
> - Afficher le texte des messages précédents -

You ugly antisemitic cunt! You speak shit, shut up. Islam is the worst
religions of all, intolerant extremist and terrorist!

We Jews will not rest at ease the day when all arab animals will be
destroyed, God Almighty will punish Arabs/Muslims and all that inhuman
scum and erase them from our world. Christians an Jews alike are hand
in hand to make our dreams come true. Everyone wants the
islamofascists to be defeated and they shall be defeated.

Anti-Muslim Bigots

unread,
Feb 13, 2008, 1:43:09 PM2/13/08
to

You mean the pedophile Jews will not rest .....

http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/jewishpornography.html

TALMUD: WELLSPRING OF JEWISH PORNOGRAPHY INDUSTRY

By Rev. Ted Pike
24 Oct 06

The Bible says sex in marriage is one of God’s greatest gifts. It’s so wholesome that Scripture
repeatedly characterizes Christ’s spiritual relationship to His church as that of an earthly
bride and her heavenly husband.

Ancient Israel was first to become the bride of God. Christ rescued her from oblivion to become
His unique spiritual wife. Yet Israel perverted her relationship to her divine husband. She
became a spiritual harlot, blaspheming His name among the nations (Rom. 2:24)

Today Israel remains a spiritual harlot. She corrupts the whole world through the media she
dominates. (See, "Jews Confirm Big Media Is Jewish) What few realize, however, is that Jews
also dominate the pornography industry worldwide, both as producers and performers.

Fountain of Wickedness

Why do Jews, only about 2.5 percent of the U.S. population, dominate porn? It’s because
anti-Christian, liberal Jews today are primarily descended from 19th century European, Orthodox
Jewish cultures centering around the Babylonian Talmud. Unlike most Christian Americans, whose
European ancestors venerated the wholesome teachings of the Bible, most American Jews come from
a Talmudic culture which elevates the teachings of those who had Christ crucified, the Pharisees.

Jesus called the Pharisees and their followers ‘an adulterous generation’ (Matt. 12:39). St.
Paul accused the Pharisaic leaders of preaching against adultery and yet also practicing it
(Rom. 9:22).

After being exiled to Babylon in 597 B.C., the Jews gradually absorbed the immorality of
Babylonian culture. The Talmud, formulated during their 1600-year stay in Babylon, included
permission for the Pharisees to engage in many Babylonian sexual perversions, including
bestiality: sex with animals.

Let’s consider the Talmud’s perversion of God’s gift of sex in marriage.

Permitting Adultery

The Talmud reveals how the Pharisees used legal quibbles to evade the laws of God given through
Moses. They perverted the law to permit adultery and the grossest forms of sexual misbehavior.
With the audacity to quote Moses, the Talmud reverses the commandment against adultery, saying:

GEMARA. Our Rabbis taught (And the man that committeth adultery with another man’s wife,
even he that committeth adultery . . . Shall surely be put to death.) ‘The man’ excludes a
minor; ‘that committeth adultery with another man’s wife’ excludes the wife of a minor; ‘even
he that committeth adultery with his neighbor’s wife’ excludes the wife of a heathen;. . . 1

By the time this dictum was written, in the several centuries after Christ, capital punishment
for adultery was no longer enforced by the Jews. Rather, the Pharisees in this passage, are
introducing moral exceptions to God's condemnation of sexual sin. The Talmud teaches that sex
with a minor, i.e., a boy under 9 years and a girl of 3 years, doesn’t count as adultery since
the minor is too young to “throw blame.” (See, "Pedophilia: The Talmud's Dirty Secret")
Similarly, the wife of a heathen is exempt; God's law for adultery was directed against those
who are "man," i.e., Jews. Gentiles are "barbarians." 2

The Talmud allows adultery between adult Jews if the male’s sexual organ remains relaxed: “. .
. connection with a married woman excludes intercourse with a relaxed membrum.” (Yebamoth 55b)
The Pharisaic rationale was that since this isn’t a “real” connection, it would not constitute
adultery, or incest either. “. . .if one cohabited with forbidden relatives with relaxed
membrum he is exonerated. . .” (Yebamoth 55b)

Yet the Pharisees did, in fact, allow penetration, just as long as withdrawal occurred before
completion of orgasm. Yebamoth 56a and 56b contain a spirited dispute between some of the
Talmud’s most respected sages on the structure of male genitalia and to what extent it might be
used before actual adultery had taken place. The majority opinion stands: “The first stage is
constituted by the insertion of the corona; and the final stage, by actual consummation. Beyond
this [insertion], the act is no more than superficial contact and one is exonerated in regard
to it.”

Raping Slave Girls

Special permission is given by the Pharisees in Kerithoth 11a and 11b to rape “designated
bondmaids,” Gentile proselytes who are slaves in the Pharisee’s household. 3 This is an option
which doubtless caused many a Pharisee to lift his eyes from study of the Torah. Although the
Mishnah (original oral law) flatly states that any person who forces a sexual connection on
someone outside of marriage is liable to punishment, the Gemara (later commentary) emphatically
disagrees. It teaches that when a slave girl is sleeping, she is morally innocent. This is the
prevailing view of the Talmud, saying that if the Pharisee violates her in her sleep, her
innocence becomes his also.

The above passage continues: “…in our instance even the one awake is exempted, because they
depend upon one another.” If the handmaid is awake, and a Pharisee rapes her, he is guilty
under the law. But if he penetrates her without completing his orgasm within her body, the
Talmud describes his act as “mere sexual contact” without moral consequence. The Pharisee could
also escape guilt by raping a bondmaid through oral or anal sex. In this case, he is as
“guiltless as if she had been sleeping…for with the designated bondmaid one is guilty only in
the case of natural connection, but not in the case of perverse connection, because it is
written 'carnally.'"

Yet "going all the way" with their slave girls was what most Pharisees really wanted. The
Talmud gave it to them: "Just wait," it advises, "until she has fallen into the 'innocence' of
sleep. You'll be innocent too!"

Promoting Adultery Among the Gentiles

On the other hand, the Pharisees did not want fellow Jews sleeping with their wives who, unlike
Gentile bondmaids, were "Jewish queens." Consequently, the Talmud does not sanction adultery
between Jews.

However, because Gentile “barbarians” are akin to animals and racially and spiritually inferior
to Jews, the Pharisees said Gentiles committing adultery in an unnatural manner are free from
punishment.

Sanhedrin 58b says: “A heathen who violates his neighbor’s wife unnaturally is free from
punishment.”

In light of the Talmud’s permission for Pharisees to rape their female slaves, it isn’t
difficult to imagine how Hollywood media moguls, reared in Talmudic ethics, might require sex
with aspiring starlets before a contract is signed. After all, such goyim “shiksas” are virtual
slaves to the studio heads for hope of stardom. Also, while not sanctioning adultery with
fellow Jews, the Jews of Hollywood might, according to the Talmud, have a clear conscience
about promoting adultery among the “goyim.”

Allowing Sex with Animals

In ancient times dogs were trained by the eunuchs in pagan temples for sexual purposes. The
“wages of a dog” which Moses referred to in Deuteronomy 23:18 concerned the rental fees
obtained through bestiality. At the time of the Pharisees such practices were still widespread
throughout the pagan world, especially in Babylon (where most of the greatest Talmudic rabbis
flourished); sex with animals was at least covertly approved of by them.

Although the Talmud condemns bestiality in general terms, there are exceptions. The Pharisees
rationalized that when the Bible condemns those who lie “carnally” with a beast, it is
referring to those who do so in a “normal” or “carnal” manner, not in a perverted manner, which
is exempt. A woman’s intercourse with a dog, the Pharisees held, was sufficiently normal to
make it perverted and thus subject to punishment. In contrast, the sex act of a man upon an
animal was sufficiently perverted to make it free from punishment.

The reference is to bestiality. If a woman allows herself to be made the subject thereof,
whether naturally or not, she is guilty. But if a man commits bestiality, he is liable only for
a connection in a natural manner, but not otherwise. 4

Perverting the Priesthood

Although Moses commanded that the priests “shall not take a wife that is a whore, or profane”
(Leviticus 21:7), the rabbis agreed “a woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to
marry a priest.” (Yeb. 59b) The Talmud footnote for this passage says: “Even a high priest, the
result of such intercourse being regarded as a mere wound…” The Talmud gives an example of this
in the same passage:

It once happened at Haitalu that while a young woman was sweeping the floor a village dog
covered her from the rear (a case of unnatural intercourse) and Rabbi [Judah Hanasi] permitted
her to marry a priest. (Yeb. 59b)

On the same subject, concerning a woman and her son:

Our rabbis taught: ‘If a woman sported lewdly with her young son [a minor], and he
committed the first stage of cohabitation with her, Beth Shammai says he therefore renders her
unfit for the priesthood. Beth Hillel declares her fit.’ (Sanh. 69b) 5

In Sota 26b, the question is asked:

What is the statement which the rabbis made that there is no adultery in connection with
an animal-- because it is written ‘Thou shalt not bring the hire of a harlot or the wages of a
dog, etc.,’ (Deuteronomy XXIII, 19) and it has been taught the hire of a dog and the wages of a
harlot are permissible…

Yeb. 59b confirms that:

Harlotry is not applicable to bestial intercourse…we learned that the hire of a dog and
the price of a harlot are permitted…

(The footnote to this passage says that the payment a harlot receives for having intercourse
with a dog, perhaps an act which spectators paid to see, may legally be “consecrated to the
altar.”)

As long as fees from immorality kept clinking into the temple coffers, the Pharisees didn’t
mind how they were earned. But to avoid possible quibbles, the Talmud clarifies one fact
concerning tithes from the proceeds of adultery: “If he gave her it and subsequently had
intercourse with her, or had intercourse with her and subsequently gave it to her, the hire is
permitted.” (Abodah Zarah 62b) Either way, wages from prostitution were accepted, swelling the
Sanhedrin's coffers.

Bringing Babylon to America

With this religious and cultural heritage, largely acquired from 1600 years in the moral
cesspool of the ancient world, Babylon, it’s not surprising that the descendants of Orthodox
Jews from Germany and Eastern Europe became pornographers.

The Jerusalem Post, March 9, 2000, says, "A great many of the publishers and peddlers of what

was variously called flagitious, pornographic, or erotic literature were Jews, and most of
those were German Jews who had learned the printing trades in the old country."

It is not possible here to document the vast involvement of Jews in pornography, not only in
the U.S. but Europe, South America, and Israel. (For documentation go to: Jewish Dominance in
Porn Industry; Wikipedia: Al Goldstein; and Jewish Pornography)

I will instead quote at length from Nathan Abrams, lecturer in Modern American History at the
University of Aberdeen. His article, Triple-Exthnics, Nathan Abrams on Jews in the American
Porn Industry, published by The Jewish Quarterly (UK) [print edition, 2005, p. 27-30], gives an
overview of the history and motivation of Jewish pornographers. No one can regard his
perspective as anti-Semitic.

"… There's no getting away from the fact that secular Jews played (and still continue to
play) a disproportionate role throughout the adult film industry in America.

Jewish activity in the porn industry divides into two (sometimes overlapping) genres:
pornographers and performers. Though Jews make up only two per cent of the American population,
they have been prominent in pornography. Many erotica dealers in the book trade between 1890
and 1940 were immigrant Jews of German origin…

In the postwar era, America's most notorious pornographer was Reuben Sturman, the 'Walt
Disney of Porn.' According to the US Department of Justice, throughout the 1970s Sturman
controlled most of the pornography circulating in the country … by the mid-70s he owned over
200 adult bookstores… It was said that Sturman did not simply control the adult-entertainment
industry, he was the industry. Eventually, he was convicted of tax evasion and other crimes and
died, disgraced, in prison in 1997. His son, David, continued running the family business.

The contemporary incarnation of Sturman is 43-year-old Jewish Clevelander Steven Hirsch
who has been described as 'the Donald Trump of porno.' The link between the two is Steve's
father, Fred, who was a stockholder-cum-lieutenant to Sturman. Today Hirsch runs the Vivid
Entertainment Group, which has been called the Microsoft of the porn world, the top producer of
'adult' films in the US. His specialty was to import mainstream marketing techniques into the
porn business, indeed, Vivid parallels the Hollywood studio system of the 1930s and 1940s,
particularly in its exclusive contracts to porn stars who are hired and moulded by Hirsch…

Jews accounted for most of the leading male performers as well as a sizable number of
female stars in porn movies of the 1970s and '80s…

The adult entertainment business required something that Jews possessed in abundance:
chutzpah…

Sturman…identified as a Jew -- was a generous donator to Jewish charities -- and performer
Richard Pacheco once interviewed to be a rabbinical student…

Is there a deeper reason behind the mere financial, as to why Jews in particular have
become involved in porn?...

According to one anonymous industry insider quoted by E. Michael Jones in the magazine
Culture Wars (May 2003), 'The leading male performers through the 1980s came from secular
Jewish upbringings and the females from Roman Catholic day schools.' The standard porn scenario
became as a result a Jewish fantasy of schtupping the Catholic shiksa [sex with Catholic girls]…

Extending the subversive thesis, Jewish involvement in the X-rated industry can be seen as
a proverbial two fingers to the entire WASP establishment in America. Some porn stars viewed
themselves as frontline fighters in the spiritual battle between Christian America and secular
humanism. According to [Luke] Ford, Jewish X-rated actors often brag about their 'joy in being
anarchic, sexual gadflies to the puritanical beast.' Jewish involvement in porn, by this
argument, is the result of an atavistic hatred of Christian authority: They are trying to
weaken the dominant culture in America by moral subversion… Al Goldstein, the publisher of
Screw magazine, said (on lukeford.com), 'The only reason that Jews are in pornography is that
we think that Christ sucks. Catholicism sucks. We don't believe in authoritarianism.'
Pornography thus becomes a way of defiling Christian culture and, as it penetrates to the very
heart of the American mainstream (and is no doubt consumed by those very same WASPs), its
subversive character becomes more charged…

It is a case of the traditional revolutionary/radical drive of immigrant Jews in America
being channeled into sexual rather than leftist politics. Just as Jews have been
disproportionately represented in radical movements over the years, so they are
disproportionately represented in the porn industry. Jews in America have been sexual
revolutionaries. A large amount of the material on sexual liberation was written by Jews. Those
at the forefront of the movement that forced America to adopt a more liberal view of sex were
Jewish…"

Corrupting the Nations

God chose the ancient Hebrews to become a purifying light unto the nations. But after rejecting
her spiritual husband, Jesus, Israel became the opposite: arch purveyor of sexual defilement
and darkness in the world today.

In response to such degeneracy, many turn to a racist explanation: Jews are genetically
subversive and degenerate. Anti-Semites have even suggested such social parasites and
destroyers should themselves be destroyed.

But the evil in the Talmud, as well as the Jewish people, does not exist because of heredity.
It exists because of moral decisions against truth, the same moral decisions that each of us
face. Thousands of years ago the Pharisees and the Jewish people rejected the true Light from
God, Jesus Christ. Their reward? Abysmal darkness.

Yes, unbelieving Jews labor under a unique curse of spiritual blindness and desolation (Deut.
27, Matt. 23:38). But a Jew is as free to cry out for, and receive, Christ's mercy as is a Gentile.

Without Christ, all of us, from Jewish pornographers to “born-again” hypocrites, will languish
side by side in hell forever. Only Christ can give the Jewish pornographer and the anti-Semite
what they desperately need: a pure heart, full of love.

Endnotes:

1 Sanhedrin 52b.

2 The Jewish Encyclopedia in its article on "Gentiles," p.619, says of the Talmudic rabbis,
"…They held that only Israelites are men, quoting the prophet, 'Ye are my flock, the flock of
my pasture, are men' (Ezekiel XXXIV.31). Gentiles they classed not as men but as barbarians."

3 Kerithoth 11a specifies that types of immoral conduct are permitted toward a “designated
handmaid,” i.e., a slave-girl for whom the master has picked a future husband. Such immoral
conduct, however, is not permitted if the girl has not been so betrothed. The motive for making
such a distinction may lie in the powers of coercion that a Pharisee held over his personal
handmaid, who was indebted to her master for prospects of a husband and had little recourse to
law against him if he sexually abused her. The Pharisee would have been in jeopardy had he
abused a girl who was not obligated to him and might report his actions to others.

4 Footnote 1 to Sanh. 55a.

5 Shammai and Hillel were leaders of rivaling schools of Pharisaic opinion in Palestine in the
late, pre-Christian era. The Jewish Encyclopedia says the school of Hillel usually had the
upper hand. The modern Hillel Theological Seminary is named after one of Judaism’s most
respected sages.

Talmud teaches that a woman who has "natural" or "unnatural" sex with a beast is guilty; a man
who has such sex "unntaurally" is not. (Sanhedrin 55a; p372)

Talmud Text

Message has been deleted
0 new messages