Fund for Sushila Dhakal
Umesh Giri
Kantipur for publishing different news in the Internet about Sushila
Dhakal, a handicap girl born without her both hands. She has passed SLC
exam with the help of her toes and is currently attending a college in
Nepal. In appreciation for her courage and motivation, a group of
Nepalese and friends of Nepal residing in Denver, Colorado raised US $
1164 for her further education. I would like to recognize all the
contributors as well.
Ajay Pradhan & family
Arun Gurung
Basudev Dahal
Bijesh Lamsal & family
Ganesh Timalsena
Jeffrey Jones
Krishna Gurung
Mike Gill
Minakshi Malla
Nagesh Basnyat
Naveen Dutta & family
Nirmal Satyal
Pawan Vora & family
Prakash Bhandari
Purna Gurung & family
Raj Sigdel
Rohini Sharma & family
Sameer Khati
Shyam/Shanti Shrestha
Sudesh Sharma
Ted Johnson
Umesh Giri
Vijaya Raj Sharma & family
ashu...@post.harvard.edu
This is very impressive.
Those who know you are, I'm sure, appreciative
of the leadership you personally took to make
Sushila Dhakal Fund a reality. Congratulations
on mobilizing so many people and the
resources this well.
oohi
ashu
In article <381F4266...@uswest.com>,
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
S. M. Sainju
metropolitant. let me know the mailing address and also who i need to make
the check payable to.
great work!!!!
Umesh Giri wrote in message <381F4266...@uswest.com>...
S. M. Sainju
than words."
Your congratulation and appretiation will do no good. Donate some money off
of your pocket, and i know 100 % that it will do somthing good.
Accept my apology in advanced if your offended...but that's the fact.
s. m. sainju
ashu...@post.harvard.edu wrote in message <7vprbo$52l$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>Umesh,
>
>This is very impressive.
>
>Those who know you are, I'm sure, appreciative
>of the leadership you personally took to make
>Sushila Dhakal Fund a reality. Congratulations
>on mobilizing so many people and the
>resources this well.
>
>oohi
>ashu
>
>
>
>
>
>In article <381F4266...@uswest.com>,
> Umesh Giri <ug...@uswest.com> wrote:
ashu...@post.harvard.edu
Thank you for your response. Far from being offended, I
am surprised that a person of your high intelligence would
overlook some basic logic.
First, congratulating and PUBLICLY appreciating a fellow
Nepal's leadership efforts is MUCH better than keeping silent.
Our various communities need people like Umesh (a colleague
from www.nepalimusic.com): At this point,
I'd like to recall and appreciate similiar leadership
taken up by Anil Tuladhar of Canada on behalf of a young
Nepali scientist last year.
Second, when people give money, NOT everyone wants to have their
names flashed publicly. I'm sure you have heard of donors who
want to remain anonymous.
And third, tongue is cheek, if actions indeed spoke louder than
words, then how come action-heroes never win Nobel prizes
while those who write words (i.e. literature) do?
oohi
ashu
In article <Rb%T3.382$Xz3.4...@newsie.cais.net>,
Rajesh Babu Shrestha
on the net?
Thanks for the good initiative.
rajesh
>I would be interested in contributing. I can spread the news here in DC
>metropolitant. let me know the mailing address and also who i need to make
>the check payable to.
>great work!!!!
>Umesh Giri wrote in message <381F4266...@uswest.com>...
S. M. Sainju
I have always believed that actions indeed do speak louder than words. I did
not overlook any logic to the best of my knowledge. It is simple. there is
no anonymous on the list
When i was in college, My prof used to give this speech in every
commencement. he said, "there are three kinds of people in this world. One
who makes things happen. the other is one who talks a great deal about what
the first one did. The third one is (he would pause and then slap on his
forehead and say) OH MY GOD, how did that happen?"
ANFA president Ganesh Thapa (our former football super star) in his every
speech said that "DEVELOPMENT" does not happen over nite. Krishna Prasad
Bhattarai dreammed of Kathmandu being another Singapore. Ross Limbough chain
sawed naughty BILLY and George Bush read his LIPS.
I am quite astonished that a man of your education (harvard graduate?) and
intelligence would come up with such a poor analogy. i an't no rocket
scientist but Jack does not need to win Nobel prize to be heard. people like
M. J. and Grant Hill are heard here in the USA for their charitable work
apart from their basketball legacy. Do they need to win Nobel Prize?
About a month ago when i posted what we did to help Salina Acharya, You were
the very first to congratulate us. We surely thank you for your support.
There are lots of people who don't even care. James in the new testament
says, "faith without deed is dead. "
so my friend, if wishes were horses beggers would ride.
s. m. sainju
ashu...@post.harvard.edu wrote in message <7vqfmf$kfr$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
ashu...@post.harvard.edu
"S. M. Sainju" <ssa...@sagcorp.com> wrote:
> Ashutosh ji,
> I have always believed that actions indeed do speak louder than words.
I did
> not overlook any logic to the best of my knowledge. It is simple.
there is
> no anonymous on the list
Sainju-ji,
I am astonished to learn that a simple, sincere "keep up the good work"
type of public remark to a friend is somehow NOT enough in your eyes,
but that such an appreciative remark could be a means to act, what I
pereceive to be, unnecessarily hostile on your part. What can I say
except to wish you well with this kind of thinking?
FYI, many Nepalis and friends of Nepal are already asked to donate
money here, there and everywhere, and, I think, each potential donor
is FREE to give or not give money to any cause s/he believes in.
Contributing to any Fund is a matter of personal preference
and limits, and not due to any type of coercion, however subtle.
When and where one can't/don't want to give or postpone giving money,
one is perfectly justified, in the meantime, in simply sharing one's
goodwill.
On my part, let me not bore you with what I have done and what
I have not done re: various "help-nepal/nepalis funds" over the
past few years.
> I am quite astonished that a man of your education (harvard graduate?)
and
> intelligence would come up with such a poor analogy. i an't no rocket
> scientist but Jack does not need to win Nobel prize to be heard.
people like
> M. J. and Grant Hill are heard here in the USA for their charitable
work
> apart from their basketball legacy. Do they need to win Nobel Prize?
Sainju-ji,
The operative phrase I used was: "tongue is (sic) cheek". Please look
up the meaning of that phrase, and understand that the interpretation
of that last paragraph hinged on that phrase.
> About a month ago when i posted what we did to help Salina Acharya,
You were
> the very first to congratulate us. We surely thank you for your
support.
> There are lots of people who don't even care.
Exactly. And that's all right. NOT everyone has to care about
your Fund or any Fund, however worthy the goals
of the Fund might be. Meantime, as a matter of strategy,
why NOT collect goodwill of people who may/are not be of
direct help today, but may be of greater help a few
weeks/months/years down the road? After all, you can always
use help from capable people -- not only now but also
later.
Regarding Salina Acharya Fund, my GENERAL suggestion -- which
you are free to disregard -- would be to
use a part of the collecetd money to perhaps buy health insurance
to needy Nepalis or look into ways so that they can afford such
insurance.
To put it simply, as long as Nepalis in America do not have health
insurance, no organized legally tenable system (i.e. insurance
companies, court systems, the offending parties) will help pay for
their unfortunate accidents. And trying to raise 1000s of dollars
from the Nepali community everytime a Nepali gets into an auto
accident will get increasingly difficult as time goes on.
As communities, let us learn to to look for PREVENTIVE measures which
are relatively cheaper to implement than after-the-fact CURATIVE
measures which are expensive.
These are all general thoughts. Please feel free to disagree.
oohi
ashu
S. M. Sainju
I have never heard of the phrase "Tongue is Cheek." Do you mean "Tongue in
Cheek?" If that's the case, then accept my sincere apology.
you sound like a good man & have good work ethics. Over the years, I have
seen lots of well wishers. But when the time comes, they hide their tails
between their legs. This kinda hypocricy really pisses me off. This is a
sorta trend that's been established in our society over the years and I have
personally experienced this many times.
I was quick to make judgement about what you said. and again accept my
apology.
"People appreciate you for what you do, not what you say." -Anomymous
later,
s. m. sainju
ashu...@post.harvard.edu wrote in message <7vsha7$3iv$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
heybh...@my-deja.com
Frankly, I don't know what Sainju is apologizing for. I don't care what
"Tongue is (sic) cheek" means.
The operative phrase I used was: "tongue is (sic) cheek". Please look
> >up the meaning of that phrase, and understand that the interpretation
> >of that last paragraph hinged on that phrase.
The fact is you hit the bull's eye when you said action speaks louder
than word. If "oohi ashu" wanted to be anonymous in donation (as he
first said), he could have been anonymous in his praise too, and sent
Umesh a private message. By doing it publicly in SCN, he's just trying
to earn some "brownie points" from Umesh.
You were also write in pointing out the poor analogy drawn between the
Noble Laureates and basketball stars and blah blah.
And it seems like Sainju that you have succumbed to the "use the long
and twisted phrases" of a hypocite of the highest or should I say the
lowest order. As one of the "so called quiet SCNers", for me everyword
written and defended by some of these "PRAISE THE LORD" AND "MYSELF TOO"
people, especially this character called "oohi ashu" reeks nothing but
multiple standards. Thrash some and praise some and earn cheap fame.
just look at the "oohi" - it stinks of egotism, egoism, egocentrism - I,
me, myself - I am the smartest (you know oohi), and you did not
understand me because you did not look up the so and so OPERATIVE phrase
in the dictionary. If one is a good writer, one should write such that
anyone can understand without having to look up anywhere.
That's all for now.
Hey Bhagwan, what do they think of themselves! Next time I'll look these
guys up in "their operative cuckoo's nest".
Sincerely,
HeyBhagwan
In article <jKlU3.420$Xz3.4...@newsie.cais.net>,
heybh...@my-deja.com
Frankly, I don't know what Sainju is apologizing for. I don't care what
"Tongue is (sic) cheek" means.
The operative phrase I used was: "tongue is (sic) cheek". Please look
> >up the meaning of that phrase, and understand that the interpretation
> >of that last paragraph hinged on that phrase.
The fact is you hit the bull's eye when you said action speaks louder
than word. If "oohi ashu" wanted to be anonymous in donation (as he
first said), he could have been anonymous in his praise too, and sent
Umesh a private message. By doing it publicly in SCN, he's just trying
to earn some "brownie points" from Umesh.
You were also write in pointing out the poor analogy drawn between the
Noble Laureates and basketball stars and blah blah.
And it seems like Sainju that you have succumbed to the use of "long
and twisted phrases" of a hypocrite of the highest or should I say the
lowest order. As one of the "so called quiet SCNers", for me everyword
written and defended by some of these "PRAISE THE LORD" AND "MYSELF TOO"
people, especially this character called "oohi ashu" reeks nothing but
multiple standards. Thrash some and praise some and earn cheap fame.
just look at the "oohi" - it stinks of egotism, egoism, egocentrism - I,
me, myself - I am the smartest (you know oohi), and you did not
understand me because you did not look up the so and so OPERATIVE phrase
in the dictionary. If one is a good writer, one should write such that
anyone can understand without having to look up anywhere.
That's all for now.
Hey Bhagwan, what do they think of themselves! Next time I'll look these
guys up in "their operative cuckoo's nest".
Sincerely,
HeyBhagwan
In article <jKlU3.420$Xz3.4...@newsie.cais.net>,
kai...@my-deja.com
another in God's name insulting his grace.
Listen, what's wrong with congratulating someone for doing a good
humanitarian deed? Do you guys really think one has to contribute money
in order to publicly applaud someone for raising money for a worthy
cause? Get real. Just for example, if a SLC-fail chap congratulates you
for graduating from an Amrikaan college, are you going to say "go get a
degree yourself then come and congratulate me"? "If you can't get a
college degree yourself, then don't congratulate me". Wow! It would
sound good on you, won't it?
And what this 'HeyBhagwan' saying? If you can't write in a simple
language, you shouldn't write? "Tongue is cheek", with an obvious typo,
looks simple enough. If you can read it, you should be able to figure
out the typo. So, to turn the table, why you "Hey" are in this news
group if you can't read simple things? Go get a life - a real one.
Sainju's comment was unwarranted, so he apologized. And you 'Hey' is
making a big deal.
Kainla - the real one!
In article <7vtn5o$v86$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
heybh...@my-deja.com
Look who's jumpin'.
First of all, I did not say anything along the line of one should not
congratulate - it was about the way it was done and defended with
untenable analogies - what I call twisting.
Secondly, I did not say I did not know what "tongue is chic" is. I said
I did not care what it meant. And another poor analogy (hmmm... - tricks
of the trade - guess who) of SLC-fail chap (since when is SLC is a
measure of success). What if the SLC-fail chap is a highly successful
man like the Harvard-drop-out-Gates while the
Harvard-successfully-graduated person is a u n a _ o m _ e r. Fill in
the blanks with b. You should be able to figure that out.
Who are you say to Sainju over reacted. He can react anyway he likes.
One should be outraged at hypocrisy.
Don't worry about my life. I live the way I choose.
Hey Bhagwan
In article <7vu3n3$774$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
S. M. Sainju
saying out of jest. There are tons of phrases in English language and quite
frankly i thought "Tongue is cheek" is a valid phrase and was trying to find
out the meaning.
In my opinion, one of the reasons that nepal is underdeveloped is that we
talk too much but do very little. MAHA's "KAM KAM JYADA MAM" implies here.
No need to publicize your appreciation if you can't make a tangible
contribution unless it is going to make a significant difference.
i don't understand why it was so hard to digest for someone to think that
actions infact do speak louder than words knowingly that we lack actions out
there in our vicinities.
later,
s. m. sainju
kai...@my-deja.com wrote in message <7vu3n3$774$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
S. M. Sainju
heybh...@my-deja.com wrote in message <7vuhj6$h6h$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
S. M. Sainju
what is this? Kainla - the real one? and HeyBhagawan??
why fear for what you have to say? after all we have democracy.
kai...@my-deja.com wrote in message <7vu3n3$774$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
Ukyab
Umesh will be in Kathmandu for next couple of weeks. He will
be back around third week of December. I am sure he would have more
information about Sushila then as he is meeting her.
Dhanyebad.
SK
In article <7vqb6m$9ho$1...@news.fas.harvard.edu>,
rshr...@is06.fas.harvard.edu (Rajesh Babu Shrestha) wrote:
> I would be interested in contributing also. Umesh, why not post all
the info
> on the net?
>
> Thanks for the good initiative.
>
> rajesh
>
> >I would be interested in contributing. I can spread the news here in
DC
> >metropolitant. let me know the mailing address and also who i need
to make
> >the check payable to.
>
> >great work!!!!
>
> >Umesh Giri wrote in message <381F4266...@uswest.com>...
SanICL
1. WHO IS SUSHILA DHAKAL?
2. WHY DOES SHE NEED THE MONEY?
3. HOW DO WE SEND HER THE MONEY?
4. HOW DO WE KNOW THIS ISN'T JUST ANOTHER PRANK OF AN IDIOT WHO NEEDS MONEY FOR
SCHOOL.
Nepal2055
Namaste,
You people over there did a good job. We should appreciate this. Keep up with
the charity-spirit and try to spread over the Nepali communities residing in
other states. This is one of the essential quality that usually looks lacking
or not proporly nurtured among us. My appreciation to those contributors and
HAPPY DEEPAWALI 2056.
Subas
kai...@my-deja.com
It's really a nice of you to express what you felt. However, I think
you haven't read all the posting in this thread. Please read the second
and the third postings. You will be surprised some people are really
uptight here. If you had read it, you would not have written what you
wrote. This is a strange place and among even stranger people where you
can not applaud good deeds. Yes, if you pay (in any form of payment),
then you can.
Here's what I am talking about==>
Answer to Subas
=======================================
Ashutosh Tiwari wrote (on 11/3/1999):
Umesh,
This is very impressive.
Those who know you are, I'm sure, appreciative of the leadership you
personally took to make Sushila Dhakal Fund a reality. Congratulations
on mobilizing so many people and the resources this well.
Oohi
Ashu
=======================================
S. M. Sainju wrote right back (on 11/3/1999):
There is a saying, "Pen is mightier than the sword but actions speak
louder than words."
Your congratulation and appretiation will do no good. Donate some money
off of your pocket, and i know 100 % that it will do somthing good.
Accept my apology in advanced if your offended...but that's the fact.
s. m. sainju
=======================================
Rightly, Saingju-jee apologized for it. But the "HeyBhagwan" guy who
sounds so much like the 'gaanthe' jumps up and down. If you like, read
what this "Hey" guy is talking about - no substance and wayyyy out of
line. He still doesn't get the message.
I am,
kainla - the real one!
In article <19991106093853...@ng-fd1.aol.com>,
kai...@my-deja.com
Probably you must have realized what Ashutosh must have felt dealing
with that Ramjhamey guy.
Different people have different reasons for using his/her real name. In
this news group, there are or there might be some irreverent young chap
who does 'mukh mukhai laagne' - you know what I mean. Some of these are
too young - well, you never know. If I once in a while give a good
verbal spanking, I could be charged with child abuse :) So I for one
want to remain unidentified.
Just for argument, how do I know you are using your real name? No
offense!
kainla - the real one!
In article <OMAU3.438$Xz3.5...@newsie.cais.net>,
ndutta
5th. He will be back by the 2nd week of December. Some people had shown interest
in contributing to this fund. However, the collection for this fund is
officially closed now. Umesh is personally going to meet with Sushila Dhakal,
who resides in Syangja and hand her the all the money that has been collected so
far. Umesh wanted me to post this information on his behalf.
Thanks.