Ruma Rajbhandari awarded full scholarship at Yale
Ratna Shrestha
Ruma Rajbhandari has been awarded full scholarship to pursue
her undergrad in Bio-med engineering at Yale starting Fall 98. She
did her SLC in 1996 and +2 in 1998 from st Javiers College.
Congratulation Ruma!!
Ratna K. Shrestha
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Joel Hafvenstein
On 6 May 1998, Ratna Shrestha wrote:
> Ruma Rajbhandari has been awarded full scholarship to pursue
> her undergrad in Bio-med engineering at Yale starting Fall 98. She
> did her SLC in 1996 and +2 in 1998 from st Javiers College.
> Congratulation Ruma!!
Congratulations, indeed, Ruma!
Yale's a wonderful place. I'm very sorry to be leaving it... four years
isn't really enough to spend at a university like this.
Best of luck in your time here!
Joel
Ashish Duvadié
Is Ruma very significant person?
Ashish
Ratna Shrestha wrote:
> Ruma Rajbhandari has been awarded full scholarship to pursue
> her undergrad in Bio-med engineering at Yale starting Fall 98. She
> did her SLC in 1996 and +2 in 1998 from st Javiers College.
> Congratulation Ruma!!
>
Ashutosh Tiwari
>On 6 May 1998, Ratna Shrestha wrote:
>> Ruma Rajbhandari has been awarded full scholarship to pursue
>> her undergrad in Bio-med engineering at Yale starting Fall 98. She
>> did her SLC in 1996 and +2 in 1998 from st Javiers College.
>> Congratulation Ruma!!
Congratulations, Ruma. Getting into Yale College from Nepal is not
easy.
Here's to hoping that Ruma would NOT decide so early on her
prospective major, which suspiciously sounds like parents-advised pre-med
route, but that she would spend the first TWO years at Yale exploring new
fields such as art history, history, anthropology, political science,
philosophy, psychology, economics and so forth -- fields in which Yale
excels, and offers top-notch instruction.
Here's to hoping that Ruma would take advantage of Yale's diverse
extracurricular offerings, and try out new activities, while NOT limiting
herself to 'cliques' of Nepalis or students from the Indian sub-continent.
And, finally, here's to hoping that Ruma would, once a year in
November, during The Game, would disavow her loyalty to the Bulldog, and
root wildly for the marauding, superior Crimsons. :-)
oohi
ashu
ab...@hotmail.com
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Ashish:
The Yale is.
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ra...@Hawaii.Edu (Ratna Shrestha) wrote:
So what are we all to do about this?
> Ruma Rajbhandari has been awarded full scholarship to pursue
>her undergrad in Bio-med engineering at Yale starting Fall 98. She
>did her SLC in 1996 and +2 in 1998 from st Javiers College.
>Congratulation Ruma!!
>
Ashutosh Tiwari
ne...@world.std.com (Mr Usenet Himself) writes:
>So what are we all to do about this?
Easy. Celebrate and rejoice in a fellow-Nepali's 'success' by offering
words of badhai and by wishing her well, even when one may not know the
person personally.
ashu
RBADBX
Ashu,
I thought Yale also has a very good Medical Program. It is one of the highly
sought after schools in that field, which I'm sure all of us know.
>exploring new<BR>
>fields such as art history, history, anthropology, political science,<BR>
>philosophy, psychology, economics and so forth
Why is this new?
Maybe you mean for people of Nepalese heritage? Even that is debatable given
the wide range of field of studies you have mentioned.
Just curious.
Cheerio
Rajeev
Ratna Shrestha
for her achievement to be posted on the net. I really appreciate, though,
some of your views sent directly to my email id. Please read the follow up
suggestions (by Ashu, and Dahaljee) how that may help her (Ruma) and all
of us in deciding our career. The availability of this net is simply
great.
Ratna K. Shrestha
: Ratna Shrestha wrote:
: > Ruma Rajbhandari has been awarded full scholarship to pursue
Ashutosh Tiwari
rba...@aol.com (RBADBX) writes:
>Ashu,
>I thought Yale also has a very good Medical Program. It is one of the highly
>sought after schools in that field, which I'm sure all of us know.
Rajeev: To the best of my knowledge, Yale College (to which I too had been
admitted with full paisa once upon a time :-)] does NOT offer a program in
medicine. There is Yale Madical School, to which one goes to, if accepted,
AFTER earning at least a BA in ANY field -- whether in anthropology or
bio-chem.
I'd also venture to say, and Joel can correct me on this, Yale College,
like its rival in Cambridge, Mass, does NOT profess to prepare its
students for a specific career or for a specific vocation -- but that it
offers them a broad, challenging liberal arts education which is geared
toward making students critical thinkers, regardless of what they major
in.
>>exploring new<BR>
>>fields such as art history, history, anthropology, political science,<BR>
>>philosophy, psychology, economics and so forth
>Why is this new?
>Maybe you mean for people of Nepalese heritage? Even that is debatable given
>the wide range of field of studies you have mentioned.
Yes, based on my limited experience, I meant 'new' for students of Nepali
heritage.
ashu
rba...@yahoo.com
In article <6ivmcn$gud$1...@news.fas.harvard.edu>,
tiw...@login1.fas.harvard.edu (Ashutosh Tiwari) wrote:
>
>
> >On 6 May 1998, Ratna Shrestha wrote:
>
> >> Ruma Rajbhandari has been awarded full scholarship to pursue
> >> her undergrad in Bio-med engineering at Yale starting Fall 98. She
> >> did her SLC in 1996 and +2 in 1998 from st Javiers College.
> >> Congratulation Ruma!!
>
> easy.
>
> Here's to hoping that Ruma would NOT decide so early on her
> prospective major, which suspiciously sounds like parents-advised pre-med
> route, but that she would spend the first TWO years at Yale exploring new
> excels, and offers top-notch instruction.
>
> Here's to hoping that Ruma would take advantage of Yale's diverse
> extracurricular offerings, and try out new activities, while NOT limiting
> herself to 'cliques' of Nepalis or students from the Indian sub-continent.
What new activities?
What do you mean by limiting to 'cliques' of Nepalis or those from
Indian sub-continent? Do you mean to say that she should not plan
to be an engineer or a medical doctor ?
Engineers are engieers and doctors are doctors. No matter where you
are. Either in America or Nepal or any part of the world. If you are
in Harvard Business School ( of which I am not sure, I mean Business
school or other schools), you will know by yourself that how many
engineers are there doing a degree like MBA. And, further, all over
the world, good universities in the discipline of business management
will love to have students from Medical and Engineering backgrounds.
(they clearly write in the brochure that the Management course is
especially meant for engineers and scientists).
An engineering degree, not only shows a person to have the knowledge
in that field, but very well explains about the potential of the
person to analyze a subject. That is the reason why most employers
in the US hire engineers ( though they do not engineers) because
they believe that these are the people who COULD be trained, in
a minimal time ( they have shown the steepest learning curve).
Thus, I think, if Ruma does an undergrad degree in medicine or engineering
or science, that will in every way help her develop her analytical ability,
writing skill, and problem solving capability: the qualities a pupil of
this age will reqire to have.
Namaste
Rishi
RBADBX
> There is Yale Madical School, to which one goes to, if accepted,
>AFTER earning at least a BA in ANY field --
Ashu, that was what I was hinting at. However, I did not know the exact name
of the schools.
However, I do agree that "us people" should explore new areas of studies. When
I was growing up, the total emphasis was on either Engineering or Medicine.
One of which I did follow but really did not care for it. One of the reasons
was that the other fields of study did not offer a good income in Nepal. I
don't know if this is the case in Nepal still now.
If I had to do it all over again, I would certainly consider the following
fields: Astronomy, Landscape Architecture, History, PoliSci, Law(which is
still an option but costs too much and takes too much time), and Archeology.
However, speaking realistically, MONEY is and will always be one of the big
factors influencing the decision.
Rajeev
Ashutosh Tiwari
rba...@yahoo.com writes:
>What new activities?
My suggestion is that she try out activities that sharpen her
non-academic talents, interests, and skills. Fortunately, an Yale
education need not be one-dimensional, and it isn't for many students,
if I may say so from having had a few Yalie friends.:-)
>What do you mean by
>limiting to 'cliques' of Nepalis or those from >Indian sub-continent?
Translated: Have and make lot of friends, NOT only Nepalis and Indians but
also people from all sorts of OTHER backgrounds. It's possible to go
through four years at Yale or at any other college, and hang out
exclusively with only people from one's own high school, country, region
or extracurricular club. I think there's something inherently limiting
about such experiences. My opinion, of course.
Undergrad college, especiallly places like Yale, pride themselves on their
incredibly DIVERSE student body, and, having positively benefited from
such diversity myself at my university, I am humbly suggesting that Ruma
go beyond the comfort zones of known friends to make friends with and
learn from a variety of OTHER people, thereby enriching her undergrad
experience. This is not to say, by doing that, she socially avoid
fellow-Nepali or Indian students.
>Do
>you mean to say that she should not plan >to be an engineer or a medical
>doctor?
She can be whatever she wants to be. She can major in folklore and
mythology, for all I care, for four years, and can still go to Yale or
Harvard Medical School later and study medicine. She can also also major
in engineering as well as in a social science/humanities subject at Yale,
if she's all the more motivated to do so. Choices and mistakes are hers to
make and lean from.
My suggestion is that she, I assume she's in her late teens, NOT decide so
EARLY on her major and career -- but explore her intellectual interests by
plunging into various courses (a practice Yale encourages and one can
afford to do there) just for the sheer intellectual fun of it. Who knows,
from two years from now, she might find discussing Kant and Hobbes more
fascinating than calculating eigenvalues late into the night. Suggestion:
she be open to pleasantly surprising academic experiences and not shut
down the door on them. That's all.
>Engineers are engieers and doctors are doctors.
There are engineers who are presently studying medicine at Harvard Medical
School; and there are doctors who are studying law at the Harvard Law
School. And there are lawyers who are study public policy at the Kennedy
School. In this age of inter-disciplinary studies, the old rigid
demarcation of professions is getting to be a blur!! In fact, these days,
one can study computer programming for a year or less, and go out and get
a job as software ENGINEER -- so easy to be called an engineer!!
>No matter where you
>are. Either in America or Nepal or any part of the world. If you are
>in Harvard Business School ( of which I am not sure, I mean Business
>school or other schools), you will know by yourself that how many
>engineers are there doing a degree like MBA.
Harvard Business School admits students from ALL academic backgrounds. It
does not, according to its brochures, perfer one background over the
other. Engineers comprise about 20 percent of each HBS ko entering class.
NOT all engineers who apply there get in; but interestingly, ALL McKinsey
and BCG consultants who apply, SEEM to get in!! Again, this last line
comes from my own experience of 'friends-watching'.
>And, further, all over
>the world, good universities in the discipline of business management
>will love to have students from Medical and Engineering backgrounds.
>(they clearly write in the brochure that the Management course is
>especially meant for engineers and scientists).
>An engineering degree, not only shows a person to have the knowledge
>in that field, but very well explains about the potential of the
>person to analyze a subject. That is the reason why most employers
>in the US hire engineers ( though they do not engineers) because
>they believe that these are the people who COULD be trained, in
>a minimal time ( they have shown the steepest learning curve).
>Thus, I think, if Ruma does an undergrad degree in medicine or engineering
>or science, that will in every way help her develop her analytical ability,
>writing skill, and problem solving capability: the qualities a pupil of
>this age will reqire to have.
>Namaste
>Rishi
Again, Ruma can major in whatever she wants. It's just that as a
well-wisher, think she'd be happier if she settled on a major that she
LIKED after some exploration here and there. A little academic
risk-taking as an undergrad is far more interesting and mind-broadening
than sticking to a string of safe, known courses. Just my thought: feel
free to disagree. Also, I have nothing against engineers.
ashu
tam...@pacbell.net
I might be off the subject, but it would be interesting to know what has the
previous Nepalese graduates have done after completing their education in elite
institutions like Harvard, Yale and Stanford.
ab...@hotmail.com
In article <6j25fa$giq$1...@news.fas.harvard.edu>,
tiw...@login6.fas.harvard.edu (Ashutosh Tiwari) wrote:
>
>>rba...@yahoomail.com wrote
> >Thus, I think, if Ruma does an undergrad degree in medicine or engineering
> >or science, that will in every way help her develop her analytical ability,
> >writing skill, and problem solving capability: the qualities a pupil of
> >this age will reqire to have.
>
> >Namaste
>
> >Rishi
>
> Again, Ruma can major in whatever she wants. It's just that as a
> well-wisher, think she'd be happier if she settled on a major that she
> LIKED after some exploration here and there. A little academic
> risk-taking as an undergrad is far more interesting and mind-broadening
> than sticking to a string of safe, known courses. Just my thought: feel
> free to disagree. Also, I have nothing against engineers.
>
> ashu
Ashu:
Thank you very much for your comment. I am impressed.
What you wrote looks studied, and well analysed.
I am impressed.
Namaste again.
Ashutosh Tiwari
As I have been saying here for a long time, in the long run of life, WHERE
one studied is largely irrelevant for one's PROFESSIONAL as well as
personal success. In the beginning, one may get a leg-up on certain kinds
of jobs and internships. But one can't go on 'eating prestige' for the
rest of one's life, if one is not as productive/creative/hardworking as
colleagues who went to not-so-big-name schools. The only person who seem
impressed are one's own parents and relatives, who, are hardly ever in any
position to offer a well-paying job!!
As I remember, quite sadly, in one Nepali's case, how his father in
Kathmandu ended up alienating some of his relatives as well as most of his
colleagues and staff at the office, in part, by always gratituously
boasting about his "brilliant, [Ivy]-educated offspring". It was
incredibly difficult to talk to the father, without hearing so many
congratulatory references to his oh-so-brilliant progeny. It was pathetic.
Please refer to my earlier posting re: The Harvard Club of Nepal to get a
flavor of the kind of 'Nepaliness' that haunts us all to get anhthing
done!!
ashu
Diwas Khati
tam...@pacbell.net wrote in message <3554A7BF...@pacbell.net>...
tam...@pacbell.net
Thank you shedding a light on this topic.
I have not encountered many Nepalese Ph.D. wallas or the ones who have gone to
prestigious schools, but I know quite a few Americans who has. In fact, a friend of
ours, who is helping us to paint the windows and fix the doors has Ph.D. from
Berkeley and Master from Harvard. After getting his Ph.D., he started to fix old
radios and houses for friends and he has not given up this obscure profession. There
is another one who got Ph.D. on Molecular Biology from Berkeley who ran an antique
shop for a long time. I am sure their parents and peers had high expectations of
them, but they pursued what they enjoy the most. The same seems to be true for
Nepalese, that after all the hypes about academic achievement, they will hide in
some remote part of world and we never hear from them. I don't know if Kanak Dixit
of Himal magazine and Sanjeev Raj Bhandari of Mercantile went to Yale, Harvard, or
Stanford, I hope they did.
Before I bury the netter with an unnecessary baggage, let me join with rest of
you to congratulate our Nepali Bahini and suggest one things: be who you are and
enjoy. :)
pokh...@hotmail.com
In article <199805091456...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
rba...@aol.com (RBADBX) wrote:
>
> > There is Yale Madical School, to which one goes to, if accepted,
> >AFTER earning at least a BA in ANY field --
>
> Ashu, that was what I was hinting at. However, I did not know the exact
name
> of the schools.
>
> However, I do agree that "us people" should explore new areas of studies.
When
> I was growing up, the total emphasis was on either Engineering or Medicine.
> One of which I did follow but really did not care for it. One of the
reasons
> was that the other fields of study did not offer a good income in Nepal.
> don't know if this is the case in Nepal still now.
>
> If I had to do it all over again, I would certainly consider the following
> fields: Astronomy, Landscape Architecture, History, PoliSci, Law(which is
> still an option but costs too much and takes too much time), and Archeology.
>
> However, speaking realistically, MONEY is and will always be one of the big
> factors influencing the decision.
>
> Rajeev
>
For an average nepali kid, technical profession is the ultimate dream
in his/her life. This dream will get success and also worth if you
wish to practice it in Nepal. Most of the top rated kids who come
out of college premise and go for undergraduate studies in technical
subjects, will be one day continuing for Masters (or graduate studies)
probably outside Nepal. If they further move ahead to the Ph.D.
program in purely technical subjects, upon completion they will
find a fellow social science Ph.D. graduate more secured
(a prospective public leader) compared to him/herself
when the ultimate working place is again Nepal. The social
science Ph.D. walla has more prospectus to lead in Nepal compared
to technical Ph.D. walla and in every other Developing countries.
You will ask why is it so? Firstly, there are too many social
science graduate who get Bachelors degree, but, getting Ph.D.
in social science (honestly) is far more difficult compared to
technical subjects. Because in technical subjects you have more
chances to give a new theory by conducting a laboratory experiment
or numerical analysis or mathematical derivations, and such
results are acceptable to every one in the field, most importantly
its because it is REPRODUCIBLE. But, a social science subject
deals with the society which changes everyday and the analysis,
personal judgement and philosophy are very much important factors
in deriving a conclusion, a worst thing out of this is such
conclusions need not match with/satisfy another fellow social
scientists's conclusions and has more chances to be screwed up.
So, acquiring a Ph.D. degree and practicing social science
profession is really a very big challenge. Only very few can get
real success in this field. You have to be really dedicated
and also be lucky to be a leader in this profession. Nepalis in
general dislike a risk oriented profession(I remember a
gentleman who wrote an artile in SCN on this topic, probably
Rupesh Pradhan), prefer risk free profession. So, technical
subjects are risk free subjects and an average parent always
wants his kids to secure a position in risk free profession.
Probably, Ruma is als heading (suggested?) for such profession.
My suggestion to Ruma, is to decide her destination first?
If her ultimate destination is to get the highest degree
from an academic institution (Ph.D.), then,
she should head for social sicence, law or interdisciplinary
subjects, but, if she just want to quit studies after acquiring
Bachelor degrees or Masters, then, she better go to technical
subjects. Its upto you. If you are not sure about your
performance in university, you better follow Ashu's suggestion
explore first 2 years opting varities of subjects and find
which subjects fits for you. Its my personal suggestion.
As a personal experience, I suggested to a younger sister of
mine (cousin?) to head for MBBS/engineering and she went to
St. X college and could not do better in science, finally,
she changed her professional interest to journalism, now
she is doing faily well. So, think of your personal interest,
don't follow blindly others suggestion if you really dislike
the suggested profession. Good luck.
Pokharel
Ashutosh Tiwari
tam...@pacbell.net writes:
>some remote part of world and we never hear from them. I don't know if
Kanak Dixit >of Himal magazine and Sanjeev Raj Bhandari of Mercantile went
to Yale, Harvard, or >Stanford, I hope they did.
Kanak studied law in India, before earning a Master's in journalism at
Columbia University in New York City. Sanjeev, I believe, studied college
in England.
To the best of my knowledge, some of Harvard Nepalis who are somewhat,
not-at-all or very famous in Nepal are:
1. Himalaya Shumsher Rana, a Rastra Bank ko Governor from a long time ago,
and who's behind this Himalaya Bank in Thamel. Though not a graduate of
any Harvard program, he was at the law school in the '50s -- or so he told
me. Rana is also the president of the Harvard Club of Nepal.
2. Yadu Nath Khanal, arguably the most 'bidwan' of any Nepali, who spent a
year in the '70s as a visiting scholar. He's in his 80s, and in one of my
meetings with him, I was very impressed with the way he outlined the
significance or lack thereof of Fukuyama's book "End of History and the
Last Man". Kamal Prakash Malla has written an admirinhg profile of Khanal
in his book "Road to Nowhere".
3. Narendra Raj Pandey, who's now one of the top secretaries to the King,
studied public administration (Master's) at Harvard's Kennedy School of
Government.
4. Indira Rana and Kusum Saakha -- two women lawyers in Kathmandu, who
did their Master's in Law (LLMs) at the law school at Harvard.
5. Roop Jyoti, a scion of the Jyoti industrial family/group, and a Harvard
MBA who had run for Kathmandu ko Mayor ko office in 1986, and had lost to
Hari Bol Bhattarai. My sense is that Roop, bring Roop, will again run for
some public office in Nepal or at least try to hold some sort of a
high-profile public-sector policy-making job in Nepal.
6. Ambica Adhikari who holds a Doctor of Design from Harvard, and who's
now a Canadian permanent resident, and heads the Nepal Chapter of the IUCN
-- an environmental conservation agency in KTM. In all of his, mostly
inspid (my opinion!) journal/general articles, Adhikari never lets you
forget that, hey, he went to Harvard. :-)
7. Aroop Rajouriya, a Harvard Master's in public policy, who's a big-shot
at at the King Mahendra Trust for nature Conservation.
8. Brajesh Pantha who holds a Doctorate in Education from Harvard, and now
looks after the World Bank ko education-related policies/finances for
Nepali educational system in Kathmandu.
9. Arnico Panday, now studying in Wisconsin: the sheer amount of stuff
Arnico knows about Nepal is mind-boggling. At the age of 16, he became a
paid columnist at HIMAL magazine -- and he started their 'know your himal'
column.
10. And, finally my personal favorite and one of my very good friends:
Anup Raj Joshi who majored in anthropology as a Harvard undergrad, and
went on to study at the Harvard Business School, and now is a big-shot
executive at Kellogs (cereal) company in Battle Creek, Michigan.
Hope this list of mine helps Tamangji somewhat. :)
namaste
ashu
kali...@cybergal.com
Mr Usenet Himself wrote:
>
> ra...@Hawaii.Edu (Ratna Shrestha) wrote:
> So what are we all to do about this?
When we are finished congratulating her and celebrating on her behalf we
can start praying that when or if she tires of medicine she would go to
Yale Law school and go back to Nepal and fight and win the womens'
property rights battle so Nepal's women could be counted as huMAN!
-ks
> > Ruma Rajbhandari has been awarded full scholarship to pursue
> >her undergrad in Bio-med engineering at Yale starting Fall 98. She
> >did her SLC in 1996 and +2 in 1998 from st Javiers College.
> >Congratulation Ruma!!
> >
RBADBX
>tiw...@login2.fas.harvard.edu
Wrote>
>To the best of my knowledge, some of Harvard Nepalis who are somewhat,
>not-at-all or very famous in Nepal are:
Didn't King Birendra attend Harvard too? Does anyone know what area of study
he pursued while he was out there?
Rajeev
RBADBX
> pokh...@hotmail.com
wrote:
>If they further move ahead to the Ph.D.
>program in purely technical subjects, upon completion they will
>find a fellow social science Ph.D. graduate more secured
>(a prospective public leader) compared to him/herself
>when the ultimate working place is again Nepal.
Is that really so, I thought it was vice-versa.
> The social>science Ph.D. walla has more prospectus to lead in Nepal
compared>to technical Ph.D.
Maybe that is because they are more aware of and active in the socio-political
culture of Nepal. The engineers, being technocrats, maybe don't have the
capacity or the willingness to take a more public role.
Pokharelji,
Your thoughts provide a different insight on this. Did you experience this
while working in Nepal?
Rajeev
tam...@pacbell.net
Tiwari Jee: Thank you again for taking the time to write the following
information. I certainly didn't know many individuals that you mentioned.
Although I never thought of going to Harvard or Yale, I hope our Nepali daju
bhai, and didi bahine will get the opportunity like Ruma and contribute their
share to better the image if Nepal.
Thank you.
Ashutosh Tiwari wrote:
> Kanak studied law in India, before earning a Master's in journalism at
> Columbia University in New York City. Sanjeev, I believe, studied college
> in England.
>
> To the best of my knowledge, some of Harvard Nepalis who are somewhat,
> not-at-all or very famous in Nepal are:
>
> 1. Himalaya Shumsher Rana, a Rastra Bank ko Governor from a long time ago,
> and who's behind this Himalaya Bank in Thamel. Though not a graduate of
> any Harvard program, he was at the law school in the '50s -- or so he told
> me. Rana is also the president of the Harvard Club of Nepal.
>
> 2. Yadu Nath Khanal, arguably the most 'bidwan' of any Nepali, who spent a
> year in the '70s as a visiting scholar. He's in his 80s, and in one of my
> meetings with him, I was very impressed with the way he outlined the
> significance or lack thereof of Fukuyama's book "End of History and the
> Last Man". Kamal Prakash Malla has written an admirinhg profile of Khanal
> in his book "Road to Nowhere".
>
> 3. Narendra Raj Pandey, who's now one of the top secretaries to the King,
> studied public administration (Master's) at Harvard's Kennedy School of
> Government.
>
> 4... text snipped...
Ashutosh Tiwari
Yes, the King had attended Harvard in the late '60s as a Special Student,
meaning that he took courses for his own gyan and knowledge, and did not
pursue a degree.
It's interesting to note that back then, he had taken a course each on
American government and comparative political systems from Professor
Samuel Huntington, who still remembers famous Nepali student fondly.
ashu
pokh...@hotmail.com
Ashutosh Tiwari jee,
Thanks for the list on what harvard alumni are doing in Nepal
or abroad. You did not put yourself in the list. In capitalistic
marketplace, you should should not hesitate to tender yourself.
Though SCN may not be a marketplace for all the professionals,
but, its good marketplace for persons, like you, heading for
public leadership in Nepal (hidden truth?).
I appreciate you very much for your always positive (optimistic)
thoughts in TND, and currently in SCN. You were probably the
first one who publicly claimed to have no interest in filing
any applications for GREEN CARD (in TND?). In addition to such
LEKHS, articles/posts in SCN and TND, you went back to Nepal
and if my memory recalls correctly, you spent some days(/months?)
with the Choudhary in Dang. As a fresh graduate, your participation
in the Choudhary's movement was/should be quite inspiring to
other fellow fresh graduates to look/watch deep into such
movements/ problems. May I suggest you to list what you
did there in Dang, so that peoples can appreciate you and your school
that better school means better professionals to the society?
I hope you don't feel hesitated to judge yourself, if you
feel hesitated assume this request as a void.
Regards.
Gyaneswor
In article <6j3flq$3sa$1...@news.fas.harvard.edu>,
tiw...@login2.fas.harvard.edu (Ashutosh Tiwari) wrote:
>
> tam...@pacbell.net writes:
>
> >some remote part of world and we never hear from them. I don't know if
> Kanak Dixit >of Himal magazine and Sanjeev Raj Bhandari of Mercantile went
> to Yale, Harvard, or >Stanford, I hope they did.
>
> Kanak studied law in India, before earning a Master's in journalism at
> Columbia University in New York City. Sanjeev, I believe, studied college
> in England.
>
> To the best of my knowledge, some of Harvard Nepalis who are somewhat,
> not-at-all or very famous in Nepal are:
>
> 1. Himalaya Shumsher Rana, a Rastra Bank ko Governor from a long time ago,
> and who's behind this Himalaya Bank in Thamel. Though not a graduate of
> any Harvard program, he was at the law school in the '50s -- or so he told
> me. Rana is also the president of the Harvard Club of Nepal.
>
> 2. Yadu Nath Khanal, arguably the most 'bidwan' of any Nepali, who spent a
> year in the '70s as a visiting scholar. He's in his 80s, and in one of my
> meetings with him, I was very impressed with the way he outlined the
> significance or lack thereof of Fukuyama's book "End of History and the
> Last Man". Kamal Prakash Malla has written an admirinhg profile of Khanal
> in his book "Road to Nowhere".
>
> 3. Narendra Raj Pandey, who's now one of the top secretaries to the King,
> studied public administration (Master's) at Harvard's Kennedy School of
> Government.
>
Ashutosh Tiwari
Thank you GPji, for your kind words. I enjoy the power of ideas, ideas and
ideas and love sharing them with others. I also find writing very
difficult, so by writing here (whenever I feel like taking a break from my
regular work or when I can't go to sleep ;-)) I hope to get better at
writing. Also, it's always a pleasure to share a few thoughts on Nepal
with people like you and others, who may or may not agree with what I
have to say. Now, on to the specifics of your queries below:
pokh...@hotmail.com writes:
>Ashutosh Tiwari jee,
>Thanks for the list on what harvard alumni are doing in Nepal
>or abroad. You did not put yourself in the list. In capitalistic
>marketplace, you should should not hesitate to tender yourself.
Quite truthfully, I am not as accomplished as some of my Nepali friends
are. At best, I like to think of myself as a chronicler of OTHER people's
success (boardly defined!). At worst, I have a long, long way to go and
MUCH. much to learn before EVEN thinking about being any sort of leader.
But more to the point, I can think of at least a dozen Nepali friends who
can make far better (public) leaders than I can ever hope to be, and it
would be such joy to see them succeed. So, there.
>Though SCN may not be a marketplace for all the professionals,
>but, its good marketplace for persons, like you, heading for
>public leadership in Nepal (hidden truth?).
>I appreciate you very much for your always positive (optimistic)
>thoughts in TND, and currently in SCN.
Thank you. For a long time now, personally speaking, I've been struggling
with crushing/debilitating medical conditions (even though I appear fairly
normal and fine on the outside!!), and when stuff like that happen to you
at relatively young age -- you learn to be resilient, spiritually sturdy,
and resolve to yourself that you are just not going to be defeated no
matter what, and you learn to marshal all your energy through sheer hope,
optimism and having faith. :-) More on this, I guess, on my web-site
someday, if I get around constructing the damn thing. :-))
>You were probably the
>first one who publicly claimed to have no interest in filing
>any applications for GREEN CARD (in TND?).
In all frankness, I sometimes wonder whether that was a wise thing to say.
As one of my good friends Pratyoush Onta wrote sometime ago, and I have
seen it first-hand in Nepal, oppressive conditions back home -- for people
who just want to sit down and mind their own clean business -- are so
crushing that I have sometimes wondered whether it's really worth going
back to Nepal to do anything.
I say this NOT out a sense of defeat or anything like that; but living in
Nepal, you know, it's very, very hard to fight off the sheer hopelessness
that seems to be so pervasive that it saps all your energy, enthusiasm and
motivation to do anything good. I mean, how long can you stay motivated
and all jazzed up when people all around you are always losing hope, faith
and optimism, and even going around 'poisoning' your moods and
aspirations?
Pratyoush, being indomitable Pratyoush, at least has ready-made antidotes
to living in such 'posonous' conditions. He writes a lot, reads a lot and
contributes wholly to 1001 activities that are going on in Nepal. I just
wonder, in all honesty, whether I am or anybody else is that strong . . .
Still, I guess on a subconscious level, maybe I write on SCN just to keep
my own fragile sense of hope/optimism regarding Nepal alive and well. If
it helps others to do the same, then that's good.
>In addition to such
>LEKHS, articles/posts in SCN and TND, you went back to Nepal
>and if my memory recalls correctly, you spent some days(/months?)
>with the Choudhary in Dang.
Yes, it was my good fortune that I was able to spend six months living and
travelling through the Far Western Nepal, including Dang, Kailali,
Bardiya, Kanchanpur and Banke zillas, before my good old health problems
started to appear!!
In many ways, Dang was one of my life-changing experiences, for which I am
still -- and I am sorry if this sounds corny -- struggling to find the
right words to describe with. I've been working on and off on a monograph
on the bonded labor, and it's sort of really going nowhere for now, partly
due to other priorities/concerns at the moment. Hey, I told you, I find
writing very difficult. :-)
But, hey, I am not a quitter, so one hopes and struggles all the more, and
prays that things will soon fall in their places all right.
>As a fresh graduate, your participation
>in the Choudhary's movement was/should be quite inspiring to
>other fellow fresh graduates to look/watch deep into such
>movements/ problems. May I suggest you to list what you
>did there in Dang, so that peoples can appreciate you and your school
>that better school means better professionals to the society?
>I hope you don't feel hesitated to judge yourself, if you
>feel hesitated assume this request as a void.
Quite briefly: As a volunteer who was given room and board there, I
a) served as a legal intern at Dilli Chuadhary's org, working
with some Tharu and bahun-chettri lawyers, who have all become
good friends.
b) interviewed more than 120 bonded laborers (including wives
and children in 5 districts).
c) started and ran legal awareness camps in all five zillas.
d) wrote grant proposals to Kathmandu-based INGOs and orgs.
e) studied Nepali laws and muluki ain.
f) interviewed about a dozen jamin-dars in 5 zillas.
g) managed to learn conversational Tharu to get by. :-)
h) was very humbled to discover, first-hand, that bonded labor
is one Nepali issue enmeshed in complex social/institutional
and political institutions for which there is no easy, simple
sound-bite answer. I lived and learnt what little I could.
I'll share some of those experiences in detail from time to time.
Thank you,
namaste
ashu
pokh...@hotmail.com
From: tiw...@login1.fas.harvard.edu (Ashutosh Tiwari)
Date: 1998/05/09
>As I have been saying here for a long time, in the long run of life, WHERE
>one studied is largely irrelevant for one's PROFESSIONAL as well as
==================
Largly::infinite:: such words to an applied mathematician will
be a vague word and to me too. It happens
when we don't know the upper and lower limits.
We can not say its really irrelevant. It matters when
the comparision is with respect to whom? Reference Point.
Majority of the alumni members of the so called best schools around
the world have more chances to be successful in any area they jump
or switch their professions. Academic credential (i.e. GPA or %)
is not the only things that you can get at a university,
a good university usually provides "WATCH AND LEARN" knowledge
in addition to the "CHALK AND TALK" class room teaching. It
provides better library, modern laboratory, and outstanding
teaching staff, in return, it selects only best students
out of most competent students. The follow-up after the graduation
of its students and the university keeps on tracking their graduates.
This whole set measures the success of a university. Today's
universities are like stock market. Sometime these best students,
best teachers, modern facilities (function of research donations)
swing one university to other and the grade of the bests also swing.
If you want to consider a university or your academic advisor, you
should be confident that the name of the university and your advisor
will not collapse until you hold your position in the profession
i.e. full fledged pro.
If you are looking for an undergraduate studies, you should look
best university not only the professors, because undergraduate
studies usually covers wide variety of courses from pure mathematics
or psychology, economics, management to your specific disciplines.
Overall, quality of each and every departments you will opt courses
will measure your ability to gather wide knowledge to be used in future.
As you get older in your professional practice, your knowledge gathered
from other departments (especially, psychology, economics, and management)
will be more useful compared to your own discipline. Its because
if you can succeed in your profession, you have more chances to get
responsibility for administration in you work place (i.e. leadership),
and you find yourself more administrator than an engineer or a doctor
or lawyer....................
If you are looking for an university to persue Masters (graduate studies)
studies, then, you don't have to worry about the overal quality
of a university, you just find a best school in your discipline and
you should also look for a better advisor if you wish to do some
research work in addtion to course work. Your school and more importantly
your advisor are very important to establish your position in
your work place. If you had good school and advisor, your boss in
your work place will push you in leadership among other fellow employees.
If you can just show few successes, you will go far ahead to your
fellow colleagues. Success invites success. Your big bosses will
go crediting your school and your advisor. Such chain continues
like in stock market.
If you further want to move to Ph.D. program, then , your past
school and your advisor are the two most influencing parameters.
If you had an advisor who had no outstanding research or
performances, you will probably need to search several laboratories
and denial continues long. If the Masters level advisor was very
successful researcher and was leader in his profession, you will
find no difficulty in getting admission in another
outstanding laboratory for Ph.D. program. Because the recommendation
letters determine the possibility of getting admission into the
successive laboratory. If your Masters advisor is really,
capable you will be getting admission before you graduate from
current laboratory. If he is very capable Professor, you can
go to industry and get few years experience and come back to
his lab or other lab and head for Ph.D. program. Your Professor's quality
measures your chances to switch from university to university
or university-industry-university. Upon graduation from Ph.D. program
also, your capable advisor will push you to best university or other
industry jobs, he will keep on tracking you. He gets another best
students in return to making you successful. This is a chain. But,
if your advisor is an old man who just about retire, its better
you give up such old professor and find another professor who still
work for another 5-10 years, so that you will have security in switching
one job to another and provides background support.
Ruma or other teenagers who are looking for the best suitable/appropriate
profession and university should consider these facts and select
which one is best suitable for them, provided they have options.
An average college student in Nepal does not always get such options,
she or he has to carve according to the situation available in his
or her hands. For a middle class nepali student, any thing comes
in hand should be exploited.
Good Luck.
Gyaneswor
No matter what size the bottle, the cream always came to the top.
Charles Wilson, President, GE (p. 18, Leadership, 101)
>personal success. In the beginning, one may get a leg-up on certain kinds
>of jobs and internships. But one can't go on 'eating prestige' for the
>rest of one's life, if one is not as productive/creative/hardworking as
>colleagues who went to not-so-big-name schools. The only person who seem
>impressed are one's own parents and relatives, who, are hardly ever in any
>position to offer a well-paying job!!
>As I remember, quite sadly, in one Nepali's case, how his father in
>Kathmandu ended up alienating some of his relatives as well as most of his
>colleagues and staff at the office, in part, by always gratituously
>boasting about his "brilliant, [Ivy]-educated offspring". It was
>incredibly difficult to talk to the father, without hearing so many
>congratulatory references to his oh-so-brilliant progeny. It was pathetic.
>Please refer to my earlier posting re: The Harvard Club of Nepal to get a
>flavor of the kind of 'Nepaliness' that haunts us all to get anhthing
>done!!
>ashu
pokh...@hotmail.com
pokh...@hotmail.com
pokh...@hotmail.com
pokh...@hotmail.com
kali...@cybergal.com
Ok, here's my list of Nepali Harvard Alumni as copied from the 1995
Harvard Alumni Directory:
JHAPA
Dhakal, DNS - MPA 89, L 96 (93-94)
KATHMANDU
Adhikari, Dr. AP - DDN 90, Ds 92 (91-92)
Bajracharya, RD - MPA 88
Bohra, HS - 94 (90-93)
Jyoti, R - MBA 76, MPA 85
Khanal, Y - IAF 71
Manandhar, Ms. M - AB 94
Pandey, AR - MBA 82
Pradhan, SM - LF 85
Rajbhandari, Ms. N - AB 90, MPM 94
Rajouria, A - MPA 93
Rana, US - EdM 88
Rana Upendra, S - Ed 88 (86-88) [note: same as above entry???]
Sharma, BP - MLA 80
Shrestha, PM - MPA 86
Shrestha, TP - MAU 89
Sudeep Kishore, B, D.M.D. - MPH 83
Weerasinghe, W. M. P. - L 71 (70-71)
KATMANDU [note: two listings due to different (older?) spelling of
Kathmandu]
Dixit, Dr. KA - MPH 72
Hurrell, AG - IAF 70
Rana, Ms. I - MPH 78
Saakha, K. - LLM 81
Shah, K.B. - IAF 79
Shah Deva, His Majesty King B. - Gp 68 (67-68)
Shrestha, Dr. PN - MPH 69
Shrestha, Dr. RM - MPH 72
****
Note the list includes women, including one brave soul Ms. I. Rana who
finished in the 1970's.
The list is as printed in the director; it doesn't mean there couldn't
be others who weren't in the directory.
Some countries with fewer alumni than those of Nepal listed are:
Zaire, Yemen, Ukraine, Tonga, Togo, Syria, Swaziland, Somalia, Slovenia,
Slovakia, Sierra Leone, Seychelles, Senegal, etc., etc., etc.!
Namaste,
ks, EdM 93
P.S. Where is the Harvard Club in Kathmandu???
rba...@yahoo.com
In article <6j60op$3n8$1...@news.fas.harvard.edu>,
tiw...@login2.fas.harvard.edu (Ashutosh Tiwari) wrote:
>
>
>
> Thank you. For a long time now, personally speaking, I've been struggling
> with crushing/debilitating medical conditions (even though I appear fairly
> normal and fine on the outside!!), and when stuff like that happen to you
> at relatively young age -- you learn to be resilient, spiritually sturdy,
> and resolve to yourself that you are just not going to be defeated no
> matter what, and you learn to marshal all your energy through sheer hope,
> optimism and having faith. :-) More on this, I guess, on my web-site
> someday, if I get around constructing the damn thing. :-))
>
> Thank you,
> namaste
> ashu
>
Ashutoshji
What I know about you is just from what you write in the SCN, and
I have been enjoying your postings since the very time I started surfing
through SCN on the Web. I am really very sorry to know that you are in a
debilitating medical condition.
As you did about Harvard scholars, could you please, if time
permits you, mention about Yale, Oxford, MIT,Cornell,
Stanford, Princeton ( and similar other Schools) scholars too?
That will be very interesting to know?
Ps: Is Ambika Adhikari the one who once used to be Lecturer at
Institute of Engineering and who comes from Purba ( somewhere
around Biratnagar?) . Thank you.
Rishi
Ashutosh Tiwari
kali...@cybergal.com writes:
>ks, EdM 93
>P.S. Where is the Harvard Club in Kathmandu???
The Harvard Club of Nepal has no office, no administration -- nothing.
Compared to that I think that Columbia or Cornell or even Princeton Clubs
SEEM well-knit and well-organized. The most influential alumni club in
Nepal is probably that of Asian Institute of Technology -- whose graduates
are comparatively all over the highest echelons of Nepali society.
Re: H club, You'll have to contact Mr. Himalay Shumsher Rana through the
Himalay Bank or thru the Nepal International Center, or contact Mr. Roshan
Darshan at the National Planning Commission.
Thanks kali-shri (great nom-de-plume!) for your list. From it, all can see
how many of those alums have gone to become prominent, influential
Nepalis, and how many have just sort of 'disappeared'. Being a leader in
any field is very, very difficult, and just because one studied at a
big-name university that does NOT, in and of itself, qualifies one to
assume leadership!! Sad, but true :-)
Despite Pokharelji's well-written points on another posting, I still
believe that success in life is largely determined by one's innate
personal qualities such as risk-taking, being creative, hard-working,
getting along with disparate groups of people (i.e. being a team player),
learning to exploit new opportunities and so forth. A degree from a
prestigious university is surely icing on the cake, but in today's rapidly
changing world that degree, in and of itself, is NO gurantee for a
life-time of continuous professional and personal success/achievments.
In fact, studies at Harvard and elsewhere that track graduates for a long
period of time have shown, many a college/university superstars have gone
to lead mediocre, insipid lives, while many a mediocre students have gone
to lead successful, productive and positively influential lives. NOW, what
accounts for this difference, if not, all things being equal, innately
personal qualities that drive some forward in lives and retard others? (Of
course, many university superstars have also gone on to lead great lives,
but this is an aside here.)
I think that top universities in America, by and large, ATTRACT students
who are ALREADY very smart, are hardworking, are extracurricularly active
or demonstrably talented or in some area and at least have shown
abundantly POTENTIAL to take advantage of university resources BEFORE even
getting into universities of their choice.
Top universities do not perform miracles and turn dull students into great
scholars or accomplished human beings -- but that, in almost all cases,
great students themselves compete with one another to get into good
universities.
So, whether we like it or not, there is this process of self-selection
(people with low GPA and low SATs/GREs wouldn't even normally dream up
applying to top universities!) already built into the admission process,
and from there on, its just self-selection after self-selection -- all
based on students' own innate personal qualities, talents, with a little
bit of luck thrown in.
At least, that's my view of how this whole thing operates. Feel free to
disagree.
oohi
ashu
pokh...@hotmail.com
In article <6j6blb$klf$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
pokh...@hotmail.com published the same message several times
under the current subject:Considerations on selecting a life
long profession and school?
>
It happened due to clicking the POST IT key and the response from
Deja News Posting service was so slow that I went on pressing
till the screen vanishes. Finally, I found several repetitions.
I express my sincere appology for clogging the SCN.
Gyaneswor Pokharel
Ashutosh Tiwari
rba...@yahoo.com writes:
>As you did about Harvard scholars, could you please, if time
>permits you, mention about Yale, Oxford, MIT,Cornell,
>Stanford, Princeton ( and similar other Schools) scholars too?
>That will be very interesting to know?
Sorry, I do not know anything about Nepali grads or students at other
schools. Nor do I, in all honesty, particularly care.
Again, let me emphasize that one should perhaps care more about what a
person does not does not do professionally or in his/her community at
large, NOT so much as where s/he went to school.
Like I wrote before, one can't 'eat prestige' or keep on basking in the
afterglow of one's famous university for the rest of one's life. My
opinion is doing that would be a cop-out, a pathetic ego-stroking ritual
IF the person hasn't done or fails to do anything interesting or
meaningful (broadly defined!) with his/her life.
Hope you received my other mail. Thank you for your kind words.
oohi
ashu
kali...@cybergal.com
Ashutosh Tiwari wrote:
>
> Thanks kali-shri (great nom-de-plume!) for your list. From it, all can see
> how many of those alums have gone to become prominent, influential
> Nepalis, and how many have just sort of 'disappeared'. Being a leader in
> any field is very, very difficult, and just because one studied at a
> big-name university that does NOT, in and of itself, qualifies one to
> assume leadership!! Sad, but true :-)
You're very welcome Ashu-ji for the list. Also interested people should
bear in mind that alumni have alumni-referral priveledges which allows
applications to go to the top of the pile in admissions, so potential
students shouldn't hesitate to approach alumni for referrals! (this is
probably true at other institutions also)
I thoroughly agree that big name universities don't necessarily make
leaders, after all, leaders appear to come from everywhere! And in my
personal opinion it is the personal developmental qualities rather than
accumulation of knowledge that make for good leaders. (Patience,
self-lessness vs. selfishness, charisma, etc, for example)
\
> Despite Pokharelji's well-written points on another posting, I still
> believe that success in life is largely determined by one's innate
> personal qualities such as risk-taking, being creative, hard-working,
> getting along with disparate groups of people (i.e. being a team player),
> learning to exploit new opportunities and so forth. A degree from a
> prestigious university is surely icing on the cake, but in today's rapidly
> changing world that degree, in and of itself, is NO gurantee for a
> life-time of continuous professional and personal success/achievments.
>
I agree entirely! Furthermore, if you really check into the admissions
at the prestigious universities, you can see that nearly all of the 1000
or more applicants will have outstanding academic records that show the
student is intelligent and hard-working. What sets the 250 or so
accepted applicants apart from the 800 or so who don't get in is their
uniqueness as individual thinkers and doers who feel compelled to "march
to a different drummer" rather than conform to the "status quo" of
society AND have some notion of contributing something unique via their
lives' productivity, regardless of how that may change in nature over
the years. In some cases the wackier the better!
> In fact, studies at Harvard and elsewhere that track graduates for a long
> period of time have shown, many a college/university superstars have gone
> to lead mediocre, insipid lives, while many a mediocre students have gone
> to lead successful, productive and positively influential lives. NOW, what
> accounts for this difference, if not, all things being equal, innately
> personal qualities that drive some forward in lives and retard others? (Of
> course, many university superstars have also gone on to lead great lives,
> but this is an aside here.)
>
The short answer to this question is more than likely the nature of
'samsara' itself. Some people get married, have kids, settle down, and
their attention is preoccupied with the mundane affairs of daily life
having 'been there-done that', while others decide that there are more
meaningful ways to contribute to the world in addition to partaking of
the 'mundane affairs', and make an effort to aspire to do more and more.
I suspect inspiring individuals and life experiences have more bearing
on the latter phenomenon than "school" life.
> I think that top universities in America, by and large, ATTRACT students
> who are ALREADY very smart, are hardworking, are extracurricularly active
> or demonstrably talented or in some area and at least have shown
> abundantly POTENTIAL to take advantage of university resources BEFORE even
> getting into universities of their choice.
>
> Top universities do not perform miracles and turn dull students into great
> scholars or accomplished human beings -- but that, in almost all cases,
> great students themselves compete with one another to get into good
> universities.
>
In addition one thing they all have in common is the idea of why not
try? That is, they are confident enough to consider themselves worthy to
compete.
> So, whether we like it or not, there is this process of self-selection
> (people with low GPA and low SATs/GREs wouldn't even normally dream up
> applying to top universities!) already built into the admission process,
> and from there on, its just self-selection after self-selection -- all
> based on students' own innate personal qualities, talents, with a little
> bit of luck thrown in.
>
This may be true but should not discourage people who don't have such
exam luck, but who are otherwise ambitious and courageous.
It can be difficult to get to the USA from Nepal through the red tape.
But by using all the resources of friends, relatives, connections etc.,
Nepalis should remember that anyone can study in America at any age, and
it is never too late. One can start in community college part-time and
work their way through it with a part or full time job, sampling
different areas of interest, and thereafter transfer into a regular
university as a 'mature' student (although this takes money and good
grades help, but people do it all the time) without ever taking an
entrance exam! And if the university work is outstanding, one can easily
go on to graduate studies, which if in the sciences, can PAY YOU to
study.
Also, everything available to learn at university, prestigious or
otherwise, can be learned at home by individual research by anyone also.
Therefore anyone literate with a bit of dedication can educate
themselves year by year by simply building their own home library slowly
but surely.
> At least, that's my view of how this whole thing operates. Feel free to
> disagree.
>
> oohi
> ashu
namaste!
-ks
kali...@cybergal.com
rba...@yahoo.com wrote:
> snip...
>
>
> What I know about you is just from what you write in the SCN, and
> I have been enjoying your postings since the very time I started surfing
> through SCN on the Web. I am really very sorry to know that you are in a
> debilitating medical condition.
>
worsen..
> As you did about Harvard scholars, could you please, if time
> permits you, mention about Yale, Oxford, MIT,Cornell,
> Stanford, Princeton ( and similar other Schools) scholars too?
> That will be very interesting to know?
>
Try contacting the alumni offices of these universities for this
information. (You can probably find a way to contact them via email by
looking at web-sites for the universities) If you don't ask for their
addresses but just want names this kind of information is usually
maintained regularly on computer records and is readily obtained.
As mentioned previously, potential students can use these resources for
alumni referrals to university, so it could be valuable to know.
Also when looking for a good dentist, etc. in Kathmandu if some are
still there!
-ks
>...snip...
Motiraj Gurung
kali...@cybergal.com wrote:
: Ok, here's my list of Nepali Harvard Alumni as copied from the 1995
: Harvard Alumni Directory:
: JHAPA
: Dhakal, DNS - MPA 89, L 96 (93-94)
Last I heard Dhakal was a Bhutanese. Has Nepal adopted him then?
: KATHMANDU
: ****
: Namaste,
: ks, EdM 93
: P.S. Where is the Harvard Club in Kathmandu?
: Ashutosh Tiwari wrote:
: >
: > tam...@pacbell.net writes:
: >
: > >some remote part of world and we never hear from them. I don't know if
: > Kanak Dixit >of Himal magazine and Sanjeev~~~ Raj Bhandari of Mercantile went
Ashutosh Tiwari
mg...@holyrood.ed.ac.uk (Motiraj Gurung) writes:
>: JHAPA
>: Dhakal, DNS - MPA 89, L 96 (93-94)
>Last I heard Dhakal was a Bhutanese. Has Nepal adopted him then?
Dhakal is Bhutanese, though he, as one of the refugees from
the Dragon Kingdom,
now lives in Nepal. The directory lists people by their on-record/
current residential addresses, NOT by citizenship.
ashu
bshrestha
Ruma is not the first Nepalese to get full scholarship in Yale...one Nepalese girl
Miss. Poudel (don't remember her first name) from Midland, TX got full
scholarship in Yale for pre-medicine about 5 yrs ago...she is already in medical
school somewhere (i think in Texas)!
Rajpal J. Singh
I recall her name as Ms. Monisha Poudel - believed met her couple of
years ago. Congratulations to Ms. Poudel for getting into school of
her choice, good goin' gal!
"Beatings will continue until morale improves!"
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