Why only few women on SCN?
Punam Panta
I have noticed that there is very few women who ever send their postings
to SCN. A long time ago, Ms. Anita Regmi used to be the only one who
used to frequently write. Then lately, Mrs Kalpana Subedi. There is a
lot of women who read SCN so it is kind of sad that they never write
back.
I can talk! I also read everything on there but never comment. Why?
Because, once long time ago.. some idiot also threatened me.
I feel that Nepali women are told to keep a low profile, not to make
their names known even if for a good reason. Purely because someone
might start throwing dirt. That is very sad!!
There is enough problems to do with women in Nepal. How oppressed they
are, how badly treated they are. We have heard it again & again and for
those of us who happen to be female, we have seen it again and again. We
always put it down to, "oh they are in Nepal!" "underdeveloped minds" or
often "lack of education" But how do we explain Bijaya Neupane's
behaviour? I am sure he is educated and he is living in a country where
his mind got a chance to do some developing itself. Come on guys! There
is enough filth that we are unable to clean up back home so please grow
up & clean your minds when you have got a chance unlike some of those
men in our country. What is Bijaya Neupane's problems? Does he not like
the idea of a woman on SCN that he wants to drive her out? Or does he
feel like any female on SCN becomes his property that he can write any
silly things?
I think his behaviour is disgusting. Kalpanaji sounded fine from her
email but I know I would have been very-very upset. Mr. Neupane should
apologize to Kapalanji and if he can't.... get out of SCN. As it is,
there are only few females who take the guts to post to SCN, we don't
need people like you scaring those women away too. By the way, please
don't make the usual excuse like "someone else used my email account"
Before I get asked questions or get nasty emails in my address, I would
like to tell everyone too that although I do not have a child - I am
also happily married.
Punam
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Ravi Thapaliya
Everybody,
Let us welcome the women voice in this group!! Of course, some bitter
incidents happened in the past, but let us make up it again and move
forward. We should understand that this forum is not for letting our wrong
emotions out and I support the views of Punam and Kalpana in these matters.
But I also feel that things have not gone too bad. Bijayaji is silent now
and to me, that silence is out of his true regret.
World is a compound of good and evil. Perhaps, the world would be too
insipid to live in if there were good, benign, smooth things only. May be we
would not know what a virtue is, if there were no sins. This duality of the
truth gives us a direction of movement, otherwise, may be, we would be
static. We would be in a unipolar world which is theoretically not possible,
given this physical nature of the universe.
Well, it is a happy thing to share more and more views. I wish Bijaya ji
also should take part in this forum. There are many more beautiful things to
talk about rather than trying to know who is male and who is female, who is
married and who is not.
Cheers!
Ravi
Kalpana Subedi
> How! Nice very nice Mrs Punam.
> I would love to see women participate in this newsgroup very much.
> Don't get discouraged by stupid remarks by idiots.
> I live in the united states now where everyone has a right to do
> whatsoever they want but if someone is threatening your right STAND UP
> AND FIGHT don't just sit there and complain about it, that's the main
> problem with nepaLI women in nepal and everywhere in the world, voice
> your opinion which is very much welcome in this newsgroup .
Thankyou but no thankyou... I have to say that your wordings are quite
unthoughtful and stereotipical of the women of the world. Lets not even
talk about what is all of the women's problem around the world. (There
are just too many types of women around the world, don't u think?); and to
say that complaining is women's common trait (living in "Nepal and around
the world")is kind of ... well everybody knows what it is...
Please don't take my comment personally... Just a slight disagreement:-)! and
muri muri dhanyawad for your welcoming remarks!
Peace!
Kalpana
P.S. here is an stereotypical response....just for fun... absolutely
invalid:-)
I think that men seem to perceive women's arguement as complaints... may
have to do with the thoughtprocess of the male gender!
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Happy thanksgiving to all. We don't celebrate it, but why should we eat
our daal bhat, Mamacha sounds great for thanksgiving meal:-)
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Kalpana Subedi
On Mon, 24 Nov 1997, Ravi Thapaliya wrote:
> Everybody,
> Let us welcome the women voice in this group!! Of course, some bitter
> incidents happened in the past, but let us make up it again and move
> forward. We should understand that this forum is not for letting our wrong
> emotions out and I support the views of Punam and Kalpana in these matters.
> But I also feel that things have not gone too bad.
Thankyou :-)
Bijayaji is silent now and to me, that silence is out of his true regret.
> World is a compound of good and evil. Perhaps, the world would be too
> insipid to live in if there were good, benign, smooth things only. May be we
> would not know what a virtue is, if there were no sins. This duality of the
> truth gives us a direction of movement, otherwise, may be, we would be
> static. We would be in a unipolar world which is theoretically not possible,
> given this physical nature of the universe.
of course, all of us commit at least some sins during our life time;
because it is a part of nature... whether we express our certain thoughts
in SCN, at home, or in a appropriate newgroup dedicated to that
certain topics depends on our individual selves. Bijay ji is
respectively forgiven for this reason.And I hope that future comers would
understood that just because a girl expresses her thoughts in newsgroup
doesn't mean she is looking for guys...
> Well, it is a happy thing to share more and more views. I wish Bijaya ji
> also should take part in this forum. There are many more beautiful things to
> talk about rather than trying to know who is male and who is female, who is
> married and who is not.
I think he should too, perhaps we are discouraging him. Let us welcome
Bijaya ji's views in this matter. Afterall, we all make mistakes,and we
all commit sins!
Cheers!
Kalpana
> Cheers!
> Ravi
Catmancrew
see how things get turned around in a wrong direction when it has a good
intention, like kalpanaji thought when i said "don't just sit there and
complain but fight for your right" I didn't mean or implied that women
just sit there and complain about it i meant everybody( that includes
men'n' women ) shouldn't just sit there and complain but fight for
their right. Oh well i had a good intention but what can i do when
people are insecure in their part.
Sorry for that Kalpanaji.
P.s.
Stereotypical!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lemme ask you something, it just occurred to me ....If feminism is for
women then what is it for men???
There isn't any word , why do you think so?
Kalpanaji atleast i have a open mind to write a positive remarks to
punamji's posting u should deal with some male chauvinistic who don't
think so at all. I am a firm believer in women's right in the society as
long as they can handle it.
Thank you.
one love
Peace.
Catmancrew
Kalpana Subedi
This is a great topic: Everybody is invited to voice LOGICAL opinion with
out personal attacks! We all know we are all Nepalis, and we all
love each and everyone of our kind... So let us debate and not
argue...Thanks!
On Mon, 24 Nov 1997, Catmancrew wrote:
> see how things get turned around in a wrong direction when it has a good
> intention, like kalpanaji thought when i said "don't just sit there and
> complain but fight for your right" I didn't mean or implied that women
> just sit there and complain about it i meant everybody( that includes
> men'n' women ) shouldn't just sit there and complain but fight for
> their right. Oh well i had a good intention but what can i do when
> people are insecure in their part.
> Sorry for that Kalpanaji.
>
> P.s.
> Stereotypical!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> lemme ask you something, it just occurred to me ....If feminism is for
> women then what is it for men???
> There isn't any word , why do you think so?
hmmm cuz women were too nice (over the limit):-)and naive :-(; Of course,
something that didn't exist couldn't have a name.But, if u feel that such
thing as "menimism" exists now, i guess somebody can be famous for inventing
it:-)
> Kalpanaji atleast i have a open mind to write a positive remarks to
> punamji's posting u should deal with some male chauvinistic who don't
> think so at all.
Agreed 100%
Again, i gave u muri muri dhanyawad for your open minded remarks!
> I am a firm believer in women's right in the society as
> long as they can handle it.
As long as they (they who?) can handle it? who judges
my friend? handle what?
My disagreement was not at all about "Don't just
sit there and complain, fight for your right." Frankly, I agree
with this statement 100%. Here is exactly what i Posted:
>"I have to say that your wordings are quite
>unthoughtful and stereotipical of the women of the world. Lets not even
>talk about what is all of the women's problem around the world. (There
>are just too many types of women around the world, don't u think?); and
>to say that complaining is women's common trait (living in "Nepal and
>around the world")is kind of ... well everybody knows what it is..."
Perhaps, you are writing something other than what you mean!Please read your
initial posting again. May i point out lines #3-6? thanks!
oh and especially my disagreement is with the phrase, "that's the main
problem with nepali women in nepal and everywhere in the world"(your words
not mine!)
Here is what u posted:
>>"I live in the united states now where everyone has a right to do
>>whatsoever they want but if someone is threatening your right STAND UP
>>AND FIGHT
>>don't just sit there and complain about it, that's the main
>>problem with nepaLI women in nepal and everywhere in the world, voice
>>your opinion which is very much welcome in this newsgroup .
>>Thank you."
Peace!
Kalpana
P.S. this is not an argument, it is a debate and anybody is welcome to
state their logical opinion. Thanks!
Ashutosh Tiwari
I agree with most of what Punan Panta has said here. But I disagree
that Bijaya Neupane should stop writing on SCN.
That's because thanks to Bijay Neupane's postings, I, and I am sure others
too, had the privilege of knowing, however slightly, that:
a) That Bijay Neupane is an idiot. (Evidence: He claims to know Kalpana as 'some
purano manche', yet asks Kalpana to send info about her as in 'why don't you tell
me about yourself'.)
b) That Bijay Neupane is a harasser. (Evidence: Even after Kalpana posted
a note giving an indication that she obviously doen't know Neupane, he persists
that he does know her through some poorano connections, and then hands out
his phone number . . . I mean, what was Bijay Neupane thinking? At the very least,
this is not some New Road ko Pipal ko Bot where you lean against the sidewalk railings,
and tease women or whistle at them as you like.)
c) That Bijay Neupane is a coward. (Evidence: First, he uses some M Carpenter's
e-mail account in West Virgina to post his harassing e-mails. And second, he
has failed to apologize to Kaplana, even though she's been gracious about it.)
I think the likes of Bijay Neupane should keep on writing their silly, (broken-English)
stuff here so that they end up discrediting NOT the women they target (for the
women seem much stronger and more gracious), but their own fragile, and obviously p
athetic selves.
We ain't in Bag Bazaar anymore, Toto!!
ashu
Catmancrew
> >>AND FIGHT
> >>don't just sit there and complain about it, that's the main
> >>problem with nepaLI women in nepal and everywhere in the world, voice
> >>your opinion which is very much welcome in this newsgroup .
>
> >>Thank you."
>
Ok you were the privileged one right now BCoz you got exposed to
everything new in technology and education AND have access to the
internet, you know how many people living in nepal who can't even
pronounce computer can't even imagine the things we're engaged in right
now , communicating though E-mail, fax IRC etc. etc. I was merely
talking in wide sense as of all Nepali Women living in nepal and
overseas and the stats of women coming out and doing something is
lotttttttttt less than % of women from Nepal who think they know it all
but just sit there and complain about it.
You have all my support, Do something positive in the society in some
way then come back here and we have a talk again.
Merely in the mood for debating.
Thank you Kalpaniji, this is getting interesting i love to hear people
expressing their view and opinion from their point of view which is
very good in a Good positive way don't get me wrong we're just debating
here nothing against you.
c:)
Punam Panta
Wow, good discussion guys! Thankyou for "catmancrew's" mail but
unfortunately, I also read it in a way Kalpana did.
So why do Nepali women just sit & complain then?
First of all, most of us have learnt to do something other than just
complain. The others who don't do anything but complain.. well, it all
comes down to how our society sees women. Sometimes, we are supposed to
be "dharti-mata"(mother earth who tolerates EVERYTHING) We will often
just take all ill-treatment from others. There are times when one can't
and we will retaliate - but unfortunately nothing will get done and she
will seek help/emotional support from lots of people BUT people will
write it off with "she complains. typical nepali woman" This is the kind
of response she will get back from everyone around her. catch-22
situation! want to retaliate but noone will support her, wants to talk
to people and find out best way to deal with situation but people will
write her off saying she just talks!
It isn't just women in Nepal who go through this. Because of the
environment we grow up in, because we are treated in a way where we are
NOT supposed to have our own views, our own opinions - Women like me,
who grew up in the Weat also go through this. We also suffer the same
way.
All I wanted to say in my previous mail is while someone of us women are
trying to stand up for our rights without being discouraged by many a
comments made about us, please guys! those of you lucky to be able to
see so much of the world should try and "develop" your views too.
And if anyone really thinks that women is Nepal or Nepali women
everywhere do nothing but complain - sit down with you mother & sister
and take her back to a situation where she was mis-treated and ask her
why she didn't stand up for her rights. I am sure you will be amazed at
the answers!
Good topic, throw your views. It is interesting aswell as educating how
others think on this matter.
Punam
-
Asiantric
sa...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
>
> Catmancrew wrote:
> >
> > see how things get turned around in a wrong direction when it has a good
> > intention, like kalpanaji thought when i said "don't just sit there and
> > complain but fight for your right" I didn't mean or implied that women
> > just sit there and complain about it i meant everybody( that includes
> > men'n' women ) shouldn't just sit there and complain but fight for
> > their right. Oh well i had a good intention but what can i do when
> > people are insecure in their part.
> > Sorry for that Kalpanaji.
> >
> > P.s.
> > Stereotypical!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > lemme ask you something, it just occurred to me ....If feminism is for
> > women then what is it for men???
> > There isn't any word , why do you think so?
> > punamji's posting u should deal with some male chauvinistic who don't
> > long as they can handle it.
> > one love
> > Peace.
>
>
Thank you mr.san the man!
asiantric
asia...@hotmail.com
Kalpana Subedi
On Tue, 25 Nov 1997 sa...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> Catmancrew wrote:
> >
> > see how things get turned around in a wrong direction when it has a good
> > intention, like kalpanaji thought when i said "don't just sit there and
> > complain but fight for your right" I didn't mean or implied that women
> > just sit there and complain about it i meant everybody( that includes
> > men'n' women ) shouldn't just sit there and complain but fight for
> > their right. Oh well i had a good intention but what can i do when
> > people are insecure in their part.
> > Sorry for that Kalpanaji.
> >
> > P.s.
> > Stereotypical!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > lemme ask you something, it just occurred to me ....If feminism is for
> > women then what is it for men???
> > There isn't any word , why do you think so?
> > Kalpanaji atleast i have a open mind to write a positive remarks to
> > punamji's posting u should deal with some male chauvinistic who don't
> > think so at all. I am a firm believer in women's right in the society as
> > long as they can handle it.
> > Thank you.
> > one love
> > Peace.
>
>
>
> PS: No offence Mizz Kalpana but I too think you overreacted a little.
>
San1:
> I agree with many of your views, and learnt something new:)
I was just presenting my arguement, i don't remember personally reacting
or overreacting to any of catmancrew's posting.... Perhaps, you can tell
me where i overreacted a little ...for the sole purpose of learning the
falacies of my arguments! Thanks:-)
Peace!
Kalpana
P.S. I was hesitaitng to comment on your posting for the "mature readers."
thankyou for sharing what is in young men's mind when they come to
America. I thought it was the "land of opportunities" that attracted them
vs "the land of freedom.":-))))))
Catmancrew
sa...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
>
> This Article is for mature audience only. I don't want to offend anyone.
> If anyone does then it's their problem. I'm creating a scenario to
> answer this question. This might be a breakthrough. I might actually
> have the answer to this question!
>
> Readers, read on. Non-readers stop.(I did not intentionally do this but
> let your mind wander where this could take you.... would non-readers be
> reading this???)
>
> Anyways here it is....
>
> The reason there are only a few women on SCN is due to America's
> popularity as the land of the free. You'd see more women writing in
> "Madhupark" or some Nepalese newspaper.
>
> Right before you came to the US how many friends told you "moj gar, moj
> gar" refering to the sexual freedom associated with this land of the
> free? The (s)expectation is also built by the influence of American
> movies one might get to watch in Nepal with "Sexually Explicit
> Contents", "Nudity" etc.... In addition if one reads novels and such,
> then this sexpectation is enhanced some more...
>
> Once you come to the US, your sexpectations gets a hard blow. Life is
> not like in the movies or the novels. Geez - should have taken a rocket
> scientist to figure that out. I don't know about now but about 5 and
> half years ago, I knew people who had the notion that America would be
> the land where one gets laid while - in classroom, in library, in buses
> and trains, and even when one is just flying to get to the US. With
> premarital sex being a taboo, US is supposed to be the sexually
> liberated paradise.... Anyways, lets consider a Nepalese student Harke
> who comes to the US with dreams of passion and glory. The testes work
> overtime... when do i get laid? Looks at every girl coyly - who's it
> gonna be? Remembers the scene from novel/movie, where a boy meets girl,
> girl meets boy, and after couple of minutes they are in bed.
> Minutes pass hours pass weeks pass months pass maybe even a year or
> two...the anticipatory glands are dead.. the testes work on unnatural
> causes. There is no hope. How can he now face his friends to whom he's
> played on a few about having been with blondes and brunettes and asians
> and what nots. He can't even face himself on how America's reputation
> has played with his mind and body.
>
> Then appears the "sidha-saadhi" Nepalese girl out from nowhere. Harke is
> lost at this junction. Blondes, brunettes, green haired punkassgirls,
> etc... everyone catagorized in their own respective cabinets in the
> mental processing unit of the brain. Where does Harke place this
> Nepalese girl? Is she NEPALESE Nepalese or is she a little Americanized?
> If so how americanized? If not so how not so? She can't have lost her
> nepalitwo anyways. So I can (1)unload some of my frustrations on her,
> (2)show her I'm better than her, (3)ignore her, (4)tell her a few swear
> words in nepalese that i've been dying to say, or (5)try to work things
> so that I can get laid with her! With that kind of attitude he tackles
> the world. He sees couple of postings by women in soc.culture.nepal; he
> knows he knows more than the girl, cuz that's the rule. So he reverts to
> the scenario above and does one or all of the above. Whatever the choice
> - having negative influence on the lady writer who will resort to not
> posting in the future or posting less than what she'd have if she had
> not been confronted like the way she was by Harke.
> Thus, popularity of the US as the Land of the Free causes low number of
> Lady-writers in SCN.
>
> ....and ladies and gentlemen, Harke is and honorable man.
>
> San "In the Arena" Pradhan
>
> Sorry san! Don't get laid huh!
I feel for you man.
Never forget not all the nepalese who came to united states to get laid,
there are lotsa nepalese who are born here, grew up here and have a
different situation than yours, so "kuwa ko bhaaguta" theory don't
really apply here.May be that's the world for you trying to brag back
home with your score, but none of us have any problem with that that's
why we respect women too, and not say anything we want to them.
Cheers!
p.s if i mistakely send this posting to your personal e-mail forgive me
i'm sorry.
> > -
Catmancrew
didn't get laid doesn't mean everyone is the same way in the united
states,
How about if a guy grows up here in United States , basically lives here
all his life but still thinks he's nepali but not Americanized at all
and tries to learn and show what he knows and pushes people from one
of the poorest country to come out and make a difference, THEN
MR.??????????????
Sorry you didn't get laid, me and lotsa nepali friend have no problem
with that and we don't put nepali women down but respect them ( if they
are worth a respect). But you know many nepali women in USA think they
are Americanized or Westernized just by putting a outside appearence of
one. It's in the mind OPEN UP! Mind works good when it's open ,like
parachute. So please don't comments in topic from"kuwa ko bhaguta" point
of view who only knows what's going in the 'kuwa' and thinks that the
whole world.
Everybody is different and have their own point of view, which can be
right or wrong.
Cheeres
Kalpana Subedi
Here u go again ...catmancrew...with your generalization. I disagree! tell
us what you think , not what nepali women in USA think. YOU HAVE NO
ACCESS TO THEIR MINDS...
It's in the mind OPEN UP! Mind works good when it's open ,like
> parachute. So please don't comments in topic from"kuwa ko bhaguta" point
> of view who only knows what's going in the 'kuwa' and thinks that the
> whole world.
> Everybody is different and have their own point of view, which can be
> right or wrong.
> Cheeres
>
>
jkhjkh jkhh kj
Joel Hafvenstein
On 24 Nov 1997, Ashutosh Tiwari wrote:
> [T]hanks to Bijay Neupane's postings, I, and I am sure others
> too, had the privilege of knowing, however slightly, that:
>
> a) That Bijay Neupane is an idiot.
Yup.
> b) That Bijay Neupane is a harasser.
Agreed.
> c) That Bijay Neupane is a coward.
Yeah, that too.
> I think the likes of Bijay Neupane should keep on writing their silly,
> (broken-English) stuff here so that they end up discrediting NOT the
> women they target (for the women seem much stronger and more gracious),
> but their own fragile, and obviously pathetic selves.
Let me be the twelfth person to add my compliments to Kalpana for her
maturity and cool-headedness in responding to Mr Neupane's unfortunate
finger spasm.
> We ain't in Bag Bazaar anymore, Toto!!
Still chuckling at this one, Ashu. Nice flame.
Say, I forgot to ask beforehand, my esteemed Harvard colleague: did you
happen to swing by New Haven for The Game last weekend?
Joel Hafvenstein
jha...@pantheon.cis.yale.edu
Asiantric
>
> Maybe i do maybe i did that because ..... i've met enough people to make that genalization, but i don't agree in generalization anyway, but MRs kalpanaji i was talking about the people who are, If you are not then you are not, now i know that.
Why this insecurity, there are many people like that Believe me!!!!!
Catmancrew
there are lot more written and a smart mind should read that, but Why
are our so smart Nepali women are so Insecure?????
That's the way the society is Mam, the trend is going on for a long time
in our country, So why don't you be strong and try to prove them wrong ,
and do something about it, all i wanted to say was why do that, when you
all have the capacity to make a difference and nothing is done about be
but just trying to prove how good you are. Why you want someone else to
break the barrier and you to follow. If everybody is thinking that then
WHO IS GONNA DO IT?????????????????????/
it's like the situation in nepal' OUR COUNTRY IS IN DIRE NEED OF A
LEADER'
if we so called new educated Nepali generation don't do anything about
it then who will.
Action speaks louder than word.
My due respect to all our Nepali women , keep a open mind and Fight for
it. Be a leader not a follower.
That's all
Positivity is the key here
Lozang Trinlae
Well as an frequent American resident of Nepal, I'm not a true Nepali so
I can't speak for the Nepali or other ladies reading SCN, but I think it
is safe to say that there is no need to flatter oneselves that we ladies
are some how too inhibited, shy, or otherwise frightened to write and
speak out. Rather, I'm afraid may be the case, is a shortage of
compelling issues, but as a relative newcomer to the group, I should add
that I'm just guessing with my feminine intuition.
~Lozang Trinlae Drolma
pokh...@hotmail.com
This thread is almost at the end of logical arguments,
it will very soon be diverted to personal warfare.
That will discourage other women to participate.
Catmancrew and others males should be very careful in putting words
if these guys really like this to have good healthy ends.
On the other end, there should be at least one woman
in SCN who is geared up to swallow and resist as
well as have guts to defend the bad guys "Prejudice Males".
Otherwise, the present flow of articles clearly shows
another end of women's articles.
Here I would like to put one list of advices by Dr. Terzaghi,
Late Prof. of Civil Eng.,at Harvard University, and the
father of my Profession (Geotechnical Eng.) to his
students around the world. These are as follows:
1. Engineering (I guess it applies to other professions and
also joggling in this SCN) is a noble sport which calls for
good sportsmanship. Occasinal blundering is part of the
game. Let it be your ambition to be the first one to
discover and announce your blunders. If somebody else gets
ahead of you, take it with a smile and thank him for his
interest. ONce you begin to feel tempted to deny your
blunders in the face of reasonable evidence you have
ceased to be a good sport. You are already a crank or a grouch.
2. The worst habit you possibly axquire is to become
uncritical towards your own concepts and at the same
time sceptical towards those of others. Once you arrive
at that state you are in the grip of senility, regardless
of your age (or sex?).
3. Very few people are either so dumb or so dishonest
that you could not learn anything from them.
Good Luck for good end.
Gyan Pokha.
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catmancrew
First of all, Mr. san all props to you,and like i mentioned earlier i
was sorry that the posting which was supposed to go to soc.culture nepal
might have mistakenly gone to your e-mail address.
I don't know where to start, but Like you said earlier in your posting
that we in the newsgroups don't know you, likewise did it ever occurred
to you that may be you didn't know me at all???? No. But You went out
and took a debate to a very personal level that shows right there how
insecure and low self esteem you have but it's none of my business. All
my posting don't even come close to who i am, my idea from the very
beginning was to make it interesting by throwing different prospective
so people can really have ideas that there are people like that too,who
are completely different than you and me harke and whoever that's
all.
I'm not gonna prove yourself to 'self righteous' people like you coz i
don't i know where i was going with it and i didn't expect that educated
people like you can't even debate without getting angry..so i basically
rest my case , because it turned out to be a circus here.
A simple thing blown out of proportion. See it means right there that
you were not being a sport and just getting your frustration and anger
level high, in which me and all my friends are laughing about. You know
what me in this end is just trying to learn where people are comin' from
that's all maybe that's very hard for you to Imagine, maybe too much for
your vision .OH WELL. You are just making a fun outa yourself mr.
pradhan that's all, Coz i am not wasting my time and my mind to think
like that , you know why? i know who i am and i'm very much secure
enough with myself that i don't have to prove it to anybody.
And i don't want to know your sexual life or you have a girlfriend or
you're married, that's your thing to take care of and it's basically
none of my business, GOOD you have a girlfriend GOOD FOR YOU MAN!
YOU ARE THE MAN!
As for assuming a situation you started with 'how many of you when you
left nepal thought............' i don't think that's assuming a
situation that looks to me that you were asking all the reader what did
everybody thought, Oh i'm sorry i forgot to mention that my english is
not really good and i'm not really educated just a BA and a couple of
different degree on the side and i have done a extensive study in
psychology and philosophy,not to mention travelled almost all over the
world. Anyway that's my thing you don't have to know or i don't have to
prove myself here . And by the way my studies are finished and i'm a
very successful businessman and i'm just 26 years young, i meet
thousands of people like you everyday in my life not just Nepali but
people from all walks of life and from all different cultures.
as far as my nick is concerned it's what all of us a group of friends
are called "catman'for kathman and 'crew' instead of do that's all if
you wish to call that american , GO AHEAD PUNK MAKE MY DAY. As for my
next nick asiantric goes it's eccentric asian so asiantric, Imagination
is lot higher a learning process that you TV and your books Mr.San look
around there's a whole different world out there!!!!!
A far as you calling me a failure , Thank you very much. And just to let
you know i'm not flying high bcoz i'm in the us but i think you are very
confused and frustrated about lotsa thing here......
Anyway Mr. san it was very nice dealing with you through e-mail and
soc.culture.nepal,
CALM DOWN! Don't lose your cool if you think you know it all go
aheadlive you life that way but don't ever assume anything coz...things
are really different around here if you just listen more and talk less.
I really don't have time to waste in silly stupid posting or e-mail like
this,
Take care.
peace
one love.
P.S. even my girlfriend thinks you are getting outa hand here.
San Pradhan wrote:
>
> Mr. Catmancrew (or Harke in Nepalese),
> That was smart of you to write to me personally to my email. However I still
> think you lack the common decency of appreciating someone else's objective
> views.
> You seem to have the limited vision regarding "generalizations". You're the
> one who's been accused of generalization over and over. You're the one who's
> making things up by assuming I'm writing about all Nepalese people.
> >From reading your comments, I am pretty sure that my article accurately
> portrays you. That's why you had to come out like you did to vehemently
> react the way you did.
> I know people like that exist, I know people like you exist. That's why I
> wrote it. I never said anywhere it was about every Nepalese who came to the
> States. In the very beginning I said that I was creating a scenario. What
> does that mean? You said in your email that you english was not very good so
> maybe it's hard for you to comprehend. If you don't understand then don't go
> around ridiculing yourself.
> For your information, regarding my sexual status, I will reveal to you that
> I had a girlfriend even before I came to the States and she came to the
> States with me and we are living together even right now. I hope that you
> too can find some girl - but I kinda doubt it with the "harke" attitude that
> you have.
> I'm sure you are really excited about being in the States that you're flying
> high. You even got yourself an Americanized name "catmancrew". My name San
> on the otherhand is my birthgiven name. That's the name on my passport.
> That's the name everyone knows me by. I don't live in an imaginary world
> like you do mr. catmancrew.
>
> I seriously think you should see a shrink regarding your failures in life.
>
> If you need any help let me know cuz I'd be glad to help out a Nepalese in
> need.
>
> Regards,
> San
ABINASH DHUNGEL
I don't see why everyone is so upset at san. I loved the story especially
about "harke" it's totally true. Good on you san man let's make this site
interesting.
abi