the Korean home base was in Saka land ( Scythian ) which
we now call as Kazakhstan .
Koreans migrated out of Scythian land to the
Huns territories in the Altai mountains ,
and into Huns - Uyghur territories which
we now call as Mongolia , and
from
Huns Uyghur territories ( Mongolia ) into
GoGuryeo which the Chinese now call south Manchuria .
East Siberia was called as North Manchuria during
the early part of the Qing Dynasty .
thus some Korean ethnic people are still living
in the Buryate province south of Lake Baikal ,
and
north of present day Mongolia.
the Buryate ( Bouryate people ) speak a similar dialect
as the Koreans in Korea .
Huns were dominant power along the North Bank
of the Yellow River 20000 -30000 years ago .
20000 - 30000 years ago , Huns controlled
all areas
in Altai mountains , in Xin Jiang East Turkistan ,
in
present day Inner Mongolia ,
present day Mongolia,
present day HeilongJiang river ,
present day Datong west of Beijing ,
present day Beijing ,
present day Manchuria .
when early Koreans migrated into Altai , and
through present day Mongolia ,
to HeilongJiang river ,
Koreans were faced with harassments by the Huns ,
so the Huns captured the Korean migrating groups in the above
mentioned areas ,
so Koreans had to obey the Huns or were forced into
marriages with the Huns lords
in order to survive ,
so many Koreans genes now in Korea
have Hun 's genetic DNA.
so you can sometimes see very white skin Koreans ,
this is
because of the Hun genes DNA being
manifested in some Korean people.
so Koreans carry the Hun genes of Central Asia which was a
Scythian Indo-Eurpean people of white skin .
most of the mummies discovered in Xin Jiang
were of Indo-European people , tall ,slender and
with light red or blond hairs .
early Korean in Kazahstan made their coffins out of large
long stones.
early Koreans made their stone coffins into a shape of
a capsule just like a medicine Amoxyline capsule for anti-
biotic
which
is made up of
2 horizontal U shape parts ,
but
Koreans made these horizontal U shape stone parts of 2 metres
long each .
so Korean coffins in Kazahstan were mostly 4 metres long
so to fit
the dead cops inside
the assembled .. (_______ _______) stone coffin made up
of the 2 horizontal U shape stones .
so archeologists found these round shape capsule like which
is 4 metres coffins
all the way in north Korea , Manchuria , south Siberia, and
Altai ,
and in Kazakhstan .
these are very big elongated cylindrical stone coffins in
Altai mountains , in Buryatie , in Manchuria
supported the migration theory of the Korean people ,
from Kazakhstan , in the west to east SEA
through
present day Mongolia .
so Koreans are a mixed race people since early migration
period ,
and during the Ming Dynasty ,
Chinese lords in China were buying many young Korean
Virgins
simply because
of the whiteness of the skin of these Korean female
virgins .
so many Chinese now also have Korean blood mixing , especially
in Suzhou .
Chinese in Suzhou are well-known for their white skin,
because the Rich Ming dynasty Chinese Lords all
had their luxurious reisdence homes in SuZhiou and in
Yangzhou
.
On Aug 4, 7:12 am, KLange <KLa...@msn.com> wrote:
> The following site states that the Koreans are descended from four
> different strains-Paleo-Asian, Tungusic, Chinese and Altaic:
>
> http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/1154850/2/
>
> Could anyone tell me more about that? For example, I know that the
> Paleo-Asian element was in the Korean pennesula before the Koreans
> themselves came and settled. Who were the Paleo-Asians, were they
> related to any other groups? Like Nivikhs, or Chukchis? Also, who were
> the Tungusics and Altaics? Were the Tungusics the Koreans? "Altaic" is
> a linguistic term, not a racial one so what was meant by it? Were the
> "ALtaics" Mongolic speakers like Khitans) or "Tungus" speakers (like
> Manchus, Jurchens and Evenks) or Japonic speakers?
How did you get the 30,000 year date, komin? That was before the
invent of writing and record of any history.
I got all these stastistics from Korean National Museum in
Seoul
have you been to South Korea ?
I was in Seoul in 1993 , to visit the Korean National
museum
I remember a few large cylindrical stone coffins which must
have
weighed tons each ,
in the Korean national museum in Seoul
and a big map showing the distributions of
these stone capsule coffins
from the Altai to north Manchuria and North Korea .
as for the date , I think they mentioned the stone coffins
which
were dated back to between
10000 years to 20000 years ago ,
so the Koreans must have migrated out
of Kazkhstan some 30000 years ago .
30000 years is a not an exact science ,
this is only
just a guesstimate of the early departure of Korean migrants
out of Kazakhstan,
because no body is sure about this date ,
this is
only a guessing of the date for the Koreans ( who knows what
they originally looked like )
to reach south of lake Baikal .
1000 years ? from Kazkhstan to Lake Baikal .
but I saw the migration theory of the Koreans in the Korean
National Museum in Seoul.
I thought that the Korean people originated in the area of Mongolia/
South Siberia/Manchuria. Also, how do you know that the Koreans didn't
borrow the coffin design? Everyone borrows. Also, weren't the fair
conmplexioned mummies of Xinjiang the TOcharians?
PS, I just wanted to know more about the physical types mentioned,
especially the Paleo-Siberian and "Altaic".
The Altai is in Southern or Southwestern Siberia, not Kazakhstan.
THough it's close.
Koreans were in Kazakhstan before Koreans reached Altai
mountains .
the Tocharians went into Xin Jiang from Kazakhstan .
Tocharians were no defined ethnic group ,
Tocharians were a bunch of different people going into Xin
Jiang
you meant the Anu in north Japaan .
Anu migrated from Korea and from Khabraov into Hokaido .
but Koreans claimed these stome capsule coffins
to be their Korean ancestral coffins ,
just like SuperTech claimed Huns were the ancestrors of the
Koreans .
Turks claimed the Huns were Turkish ancestors ,.
but some Koreans do have extremely White Skin .
this shows the Central Asia Scythian genes , the Saka
according to
the Greeks .
you see Koreans with Black hair and white skin and Oriental
faces,
in contrast
to the Picts who had also white Skin with Black hair with
European faces in
Caledonia ' s Alba kingdom .
that was one of the reason Viking invaded west Scotland ,
because Blond hair Viking had wanted to fucked Black hair
women with White skin .
It is in the texture of the skin. The whiteness of Korean's skin can not be
compared to that of the white's goose bumped skins.
They can not be originated from the same the racial source.
On top of that, Kazaks are all mixed race of the Caucasians and that of the
Hun Mongols. That means that the Kazaks can not be the origin of the
Koreans.
You don't get purity out of the mixture of the two or more of the races. Its
the fundamental law of the thermodynamics.
The racial homogeneity is found in Korea not in Kazaks.
Contrary to your ignorance, the Hun race started from the North East Asia
and then spread to the West ward as the history repeatedly proved by the
Hun's advancement to Europe and the Mongols invasion of the same area twice
in the history of the mankind.
It was always, without any exception, the movement of the North Eastern
Asian race from the East toward the West not the other way around.
This only proves that Huns and Mongols were Korean originated who has been
the the permanent resident of the far North Eastern Asian continent since
the beginning of the history.
"Vishnu , om Mangalam Mangalam" <hindu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:cf3de64f-af10-4ed1...@u38g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
the Scythian Saka people moved into Kazakhstan
only around
10000 years ago , from the Steppes north
of the Caspian and Black Sea .
according to some enthnologists .
This was much later than the Korean ' s presence in Kazakhstan
so Kazakhstan 20000 -30000 years ago was not
so populated
like now in the 21st century ,
20000 -30000 years ago Kazakhstan was almost empty of people ,
unlike the present Kazakhstan which is
full of different migrating races and mixed race people .
20000 - 30000
years ago , Eastern Siberia which included north Manchuria
were under a Thick blanket of ICE Sheet , perhaps 500 metres
high .
so how could Koreans have survived in this harsh
Ice fields with extremely cold temperature ? where
vegetations and fruits could not be found , and thus
no animals
could have survived in these ICE SHEETs to cater
to the primitive ancient Koreans as games for foods
in North EAST Asia 25000 years ago ,?
the Koreans , the Mongols and the Chinese all
originated from the central Asia of Kazakhstan.
the Chinese splitted away from the Mongol mother group
near the Tian Shan area,
the Chinese moved south to south Xinjiang Turkestan along
the bottom of the
Tibetan Plateau towards to the bottom of the Kun Lung mountains
to reach Gansu ,and eventually
to reach the yellow river and Shangdong region later ,
the Mongol main Mother group went north to Altay and
to lands north of
the yellow river .
the Huns from Kazakhstan did the same thing as the Mongols ,
so
did the Korean from Kazakhstan .
the Scythians Saka people only arrived later into Kazakhstan
from the Steppes west from Kazakhstan
ater the koraens had left Kazakhstan already ..
it is generally believed that the Tocharians arrived in
Kazakhstan after the Scythians
n Aug 10, 11:21 pm, "Supertech" <ejeo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The way being white of Koreans is different from the whites of the
> Caucasians. You don't understand what you are talking about.
>
> It is in the texture of the skin. The whiteness of Korean's skin can not be
> compared to that of the white's goose bumped skins.
>
> They can not be originated from the same the racial source.
>
> On top of that, Kazaks are all mixed race of the Caucasians and that of the
> Hun Mongols. That means that the Kazaks can not be the origin of the
> Koreans.
>
> You don't get purity out of the mixture of the two or more of the races. Its
> the fundamental law of the thermodynamics.
>
> The racial homogeneity is found in Korea not in Kazaks.
>
> Contrary to your ignorance, the Hun race started from the North East Asia
> and then spread to the West ward as the history repeatedly proved by the
> Hun's advancement to Europe and the Mongols invasion of the same area twice
> in the history of the mankind.
>
> It was always, without any exception, the movement of the North Eastern
> Asian race from the East toward the West not the other way around.
>
> This only proves that Huns and Mongols were Korean originated who has been
> the the permanent resident of the far North Eastern Asian continent since
> the beginning of the history.
>
> "Vishnu , om Mangalam Mangalam" <hinduvis...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:cf3de64f-af10-4ed1...@u38g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
I read this info from a book I read in Xin Jiang 's
Urumqi .
do you see the water floods in Gansu ( Kansu ) now from
the Kun Lun mountains ?
the ancient Mongols also worshiped the Kun Lun mountains
Aug 14, 9:08 am, "his Excellency Itoh , the Japanese Advisor to
the Manchu Imperial Government" <mussahassan.has...@gmail.com>
wrote:
click below to read article on how the Huns were related
to
the people of Central Asia ,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noin-Ula-kurgans
Huns were from Central Asia ,
just like the Koreans ,
Huns migrated from Central Asia to East Siberia .
Aug 10, 11:21 pm, "Supertech" <ejeo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The way being white of Koreans is different from the whites of the
> Caucasians. You don't understand what you are talking about.
>
> It is in the texture of the skin. The whiteness of Korean's skin can not be
> compared to that of the white's goose bumped skins.
>
> They can not be originated from the same the racial source.
>
> On top of that, Kazaks are all mixed race of the Caucasians and that of the
> Hun Mongols. That means that the Kazaks can not be the origin of the
> Koreans.
>
> You don't get purity out of the mixture of the two or more of the races. Its
> the fundamental law of the thermodynamics.
>
> The racial homogeneity is found in Korea not in Kazaks.
>
> Contrary to your ignorance, the Hun race started from the North East Asia
> and then spread to the West ward as the history repeatedly proved by the
> Hun's advancement to Europe and the Mongols invasion of the same area twice
> in the history of the mankind.
>
> It was always, without any exception, the movement of the North Eastern
> Asian race from the East toward the West not the other way around.
>
> This only proves that Huns and Mongols were Korean originated who has been
> the the permanent resident of the far North Eastern Asian continent since
> the beginning of the history.
>
> "Vishnu , om Mangalam Mangalam" <hinduvis...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:cf3de64f-af10-4ed1...@u38g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
click below to see the areas of research
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afanasevo_culture
n Aug 10, 11:21 pm, "Supertech" <ejeo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The way being white of Koreans is different from the whites of the
> Caucasians. You don't understand what you are talking about.
>
> It is in the texture of the skin. The whiteness of Korean's skin can not be
> compared to that of the white's goose bumped skins.
>
> They can not be originated from the same the racial source.
>
> On top of that, Kazaks are all mixed race of the Caucasians and that of the
> Hun Mongols. That means that the Kazaks can not be the origin of the
> Koreans.
>
> You don't get purity out of the mixture of the two or more of the races. Its
> the fundamental law of the thermodynamics.
>
> The racial homogeneity is found in Korea not in Kazaks.
>
> Contrary to your ignorance, the Hun race started from the North East Asia
> and then spread to the West ward as the history repeatedly proved by the
> Hun's advancement to Europe and the Mongols invasion of the same area twice
> in the history of the mankind.
>
> It was always, without any exception, the movement of the North Eastern
> Asian race from the East toward the West not the other way around.
>
> This only proves that Huns and Mongols were Korean originated who has been
> the the permanent resident of the far North Eastern Asian continent since
> the beginning of the history.
>
> "Vishnu , om Mangalam Mangalam" <hinduvis...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:cf3de64f-af10-4ed1...@u38g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
may be the native people along the river Ussuri of
Khabarov , the
native tribe people who wear the Fish skin as clothes
n Aug 10, 4:50 pm, CPC - Communist Party of China
when you have a mixing of genes ,
white people the Huns with the Koreans,
the off spring from the race mixing have Oriental skin texture
like the Koreans
I know about this gene mixing ,
I have a friend from Washinton state whose
parents were Korean and White Irish American.
Aug 10, 11:21 pm, "Supertech" <ejeo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The way being white of Koreans is different from the whites of the
> Caucasians. You don't understand what you are talking about.
>
> It is in the texture of the skin. The whiteness of Korean's skin can not be
> compared to that of the white's goose bumped skins.
>
> They can not be originated from the same the racial source.
>
> On top of that, Kazaks are all mixed race of the Caucasians and that of the
> Hun Mongols. That means that the Kazaks can not be the origin of the
> Koreans.
>
> You don't get purity out of the mixture of the two or more of the races. Its
> the fundamental law of the thermodynamics.
>
> The racial homogeneity is found in Korea not in Kazaks.
>
> Contrary to your ignorance, the Hun race started from the North East Asia
> and then spread to the West ward as the history repeatedly proved by the
> Hun's advancement to Europe and the Mongols invasion of the same area twice
> in the history of the mankind.
>
> It was always, without any exception, the movement of the North Eastern
> Asian race from the East toward the West not the other way around.
>
> This only proves that Huns and Mongols were Korean originated who has been
> the the permanent resident of the far North Eastern Asian continent since
> the beginning of the history.
>
> "Vishnu , om Mangalam Mangalam" <hinduvis...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:cf3de64f-af10-4ed1...@u38g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
I believe that they were Amuric speakers, related to the Nivikh/Gilyak
people of nearby Siberia.
I have heard that the Three Kingdoms of Korea were the recipients of
Scythian influence, such as Silla's royal crowns. However, the
Scythians were supposedly of Eastern Iranian descent, as opposed to
the Altaic or macro ALtaic Koreans.
> East Siberia was called as North Manchuria during
> the early part of the Qing Dynasty .
>
> thus some Korean ethnic people are still living
> in the Buryate province south of Lake Baikal ,
> and
> north of present day Mongolia.
>
> the Buryate ( Bouryate people ) speak a similar dialect
> as the Koreans in Korea .
Buryat is a Mongolic language, while Korean is considered either a
language isolate or a separate part of Altaic or macro-Altaic.
I thought that the Huns were Turkic, not Indo-European
> most of the mummies discovered in Xin Jiang
> were of Indo-European people , tall ,slender and
> with light red or blond hairs .
I have heard it said that they may have been Tocharians.
Or maybe it was a case of cross cultural borrowing.
> so Koreans are a mixed race people since early migration
> period ,
> and during the Ming Dynasty ,
Probably since the first Koreans settled the pennesula.
this is just their Turkish claim, and this might just be
a slight truth ,
because some Huns have mixed with the Turks as Huns
migrated west ,
just like the Huns have mixed with the Bulgars in their
migrations west,
and the Bulgarians in the Volga claimed to be purer Hun than
the Magyors
in Hungary , which the Turks claimed to have come from the
word OnoGur.
.
As for the people who migrated into Xin Jiang Turkishstan ,
not
all of them were Tocharians
because some of them were Tocharians while others were un-
known s ,
but Scientists decided to classify all un-known migrants into
Xi Jiang Turkkishstan as Tocharians .
and the Scythians in Kazakhstan , well , no body knew for
sure who exactly
were the Scythians in REALITY ,
the Scientist just ade up this group according to some Greek
written reference
to the people in the north Caspian SEa and north of The
Black sea to
be Scythians .
the scientist extra projected the Scythians population to
extend to East Kazakhstan.
from the skeletons and skins I saw on the dried mummies in
Urumqi museum ,
I rather think these mummies were more like Indo-
Europeans , white race of
middle east origines , Caucasus regions..
so Huns were not 100% Turkish , nor Scythians
in Kazakhstan a completely pure unmixed race belonging
to one ethnic race group ,
because these dried up mummies were also already a mixed
group of people
in the Urumqi museum .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dzungarian_Gate
there is this pass which human migrants in Ice Age could
pass through
while migrating to the East , into Mongolia and Manchuria .
the Earlieast name for Manchuria was the Toba Xien Bei
kingdom ,
the Toba chief assembled in a BiG CaVe in the Da Shing
Mountains
west Manchuria and East Inner Mongolia in 443 AD to prepare
their migrations
to South to Datong which was west of Beijing , Datong
was not even Chinese
and Beijing at that time did not exist , all this area
wasn ' t even Chinese .
Sep 15, 6:43 pm, "Kubilai Khan , Mongol emperor of all Chinese
Slaves in China which was Mongol ' s subjugated territory"