Jimi Hendrix was mixed with Mexican heritage!
papi2guapo1979
http://multirace.org/firstday/century11.htm
http://www.hotshotdigital.com/WellAlwaysRemember/JimiHendrixBio.html
Also, this site mentions his Irish heritage, but doesn't mentions his
Mexican heritage. I already emailed the author of this site about that.
Pomponio Magnus, Gobernador Constitucional del Estado Libre y Soberano de Tejas de Santa Anna
Of course he was! In fact, he was from Veracruz. He used to be a
jaranero in Mandinga. Then he met some black tourists from the USA
who told him to get the afro and come over. Should have stuck to
mota, however.
papi2guapo1979
grandmother raised him in Canada! Please feel free to give me
information about him living in Veracruz! This is new to me and by the
way, which side of his family that's mixed with Mexican, his mom's side
or his dad's side? Because I read back in 1999 or 2000 in his
autobiography at Walden Blook store that his mom was mixed with black,
Cherokee, and Irish! Plus, she was a yellabone meaning a fair or olive
skinned sista' and she had long wavy or straight hair! I saw her
picture and she was very beauitful !
Victor M. Martinez
--
Victor M. Martinez
mar...@FAKE.che.utexas.edu
http://www.che.utexas.edu/~martiv
Publius2k
sounds like a healthy hybrid to me!
- and btw, it is believed that the Cherokee also lived at one
time in what is now Mexico. Then they traveled north, ran into
the Iroquois peoples, then headed south and settled in the NC/TN
area. After the Europeans began their pressure, some of the
Cherokee left that area and headed southwest, back into Mexico.
After Sequoyah created his famous 'alphabet', he traveled into
Mexico to find these and died there.
And don't forget the Irish/Mexican connection. Not only are the
Irish helping the cause of liberty and freedom today by
assisting the Zapatistas, they helped in the past as The San
Patricios.
El Batallón San Patricio (Saint Patrick Battalion)
by David Rovics
[Translated by Graciela Monteagudo]
Mi nombre es John Riley
Uds. sólo me escucharán un minuto
Yo dejé mi querido hogar en Irlanda
Era la muerte, el hambre o el exilio
Y cuando llegué a América
Fue mi deber
Entrar al Ejército y arrastrarme a través de Texas
Para sumarme a la guerra contra México
Fue allí en los pueblos y las colinas
Que me di cuenta del error que había cometido
Ser parte de un ejército conquistador
Con la moral de una hoja de bayoneta
Así que entre todos estos pobres católicos agonizantes
Niños gritando, el hedor a quemado por todos lados
Doscientos irlandeses y yo
Decidimos levantarnos para cumplir con nuestro deber
(Estribillo)
Desde la Ciudad de Dublín hasta San Diego
Vimos cómo se negaba la libertad
Así que formamos el batallón San Patricio
Y peleamos del lado de los mexicanos
Marchamos bajo la bandera de San Patricio
Embanderados con "Erin Go Bragh"
Brillantes con el harpa y el shamrock
Y "Libertad para la República Mexicana"
Justo cincuenta años después de Wolftone
A cinco mil millas de distancia
Los yankis nos llamaron una legión de extraños
Y ellos pueden decir lo que quieran
(Estribillo)
Los combatimos en Matamoros
Mientras sus voluntarios violaban a las monjas
En Monterrey y en Cerro Gordo
Combatimos como los hijos de Irlanda
Eramos los combatientes pelirrojos por la libertad
Entre estas mujeres y estos hombres de piel marrón
Lado a lado peleamos contra la tiranía
Y me atrevo a decir que lo volveríamos a hacer
(Estribillo)
Los combatimos en cinco importantes batallas
Churobusco fue la última
Aplastados por los cañones de Boston
Caímos con cada explosión del mortero
Casi todos nosotros morimos en esa colina
Al servicio del estado mexicano
Tan lejos de nuestra tierra ocupada
Fuimos héroes y víctimas del destino
(Estribillo)
http://members.aol.com/drovics/patsp.htm
English:
Saint Patrick Battalion
by David Rovics
My name is John Riley
I'll have your ear only a while
I left my dear home in Ireland
It was death, starvation or exile
And when I got to America
It was my duty to go
Enter the Army and slog across Texas
To join in the war against Mexico
It was there in the pueblos and hillsides
That I saw the mistake I had made
Part of a conquering army
With the morals of a bayonet blade
So in the midst of these poor, dying Catholics
Screaming children, the burning stench of it all
Myself and two hundred Irishmen
Decided to rise to the call
(Chorus)
From Dublin City to San Diego
We witnessed freedom denied
So we formed the Saint Patrick Battalion
And we fought on the Mexican side
We marched 'neath the green flag of Saint Patrick
Emblazoned with "Erin Go Bragh"
Bright with the harp and the shamrock
And "Libertad para Mexicana"
Just fifty years after Wolftone
Five thousand miles away
The Yanks called us a Legion of Strangers
And they can talk as they may
(Chorus)
We fought them in Matamoros
While their volunteers were raping the nuns
In Monterey and Cerro Gordo
We fought on as Ireland's sons
We were the red-headed fighters for freedom
Amidst these brown-skinned women and men
Side by side we fought against tyranny
And I daresay we'd do it again
(Chorus)
We fought them in five major battles
Churobusco was the last
Overwhelmed by the cannons from Boston
We fell after each mortar blast
Most of us died on that hillside
In the service of the Mexican state
So far from our occupied homeland
We were heroes and victims of fate
(Chorus)
Victor M. Martinez
>And don't forget the Irish/Mexican connection. Not only are the
>Irish helping the cause of liberty and freedom today by
>assisting the Zapatistas, they helped in the past as The San
>Patricios.
Assisting the zapatistas is by no means helping the cause of liberty and
freedom.
Publius2k
Not freedom for the oppressive dominant class to continue their
exploitation, but freedom for the Indians of Chiapas certainly.
Victor M. Martinez
>Not freedom for the oppressive dominant class to continue their
>exploitation, but freedom for the Indians of Chiapas certainly.
If you think the zapatistas represent the interests of the indians of
Chiapas, you are sadly mistaken.
Publius2k
Try explaining that to the 20,000 peasants who visited San
Cristibal on the 1st. Who represents their interests more? The
rich who took their land? The government that failed to honor
the constitution and protect their land from the rich thieves?
Pirata Azul
or
200.
Two digits wrong, uh?
Salud y curvas, Paco
Victor M. Martinez
>Cristibal on the 1st. Who represents their interests more? The
>rich who took their land? The government that failed to honor
>the constitution and protect their land from the rich thieves?
Huh? FYI the zapatistas have been loosing support in Chiapas steadily
in the past 5 years. How exactly did the government failed to honor
the constitution? Please enlighten me.
Guz
"Publius2k" <Pub*?@*?li.us> wrote in message
news:54JX9.2706$Ej7...@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com...
I think you are little missinformed, or not well informed.
Maybe you are a good faith person with some concerns about thi problem. But
think that the government errors doesn't justify a foreign manipulation of
a very authentic, right, and real demands by indians since a while ago.
Government, society, and foreigns to the area have turn all this in a very
political issue where the indians are worthless.
The indian problem is for real, the manipulation of the problem is for real
too.
Guz
> Who cares?
>
> --
=======================================
Well... me :-)
Since I was a kid I have hear this information about him, for me it's just a
little more info like any other about any other musician of sucha importance
in Rock History.
Jimmy Hendrix' legacy keeps moving through the time in an incredible manner,
just like Bethoveen or Wagner in the classical scene. Guitarist like J
Satriani, S Vai, RSV, E Johnson, J Ptrucci, A D' meola and any Rock
guitarist... all of them know the J Hendrix importance in the Rock History.
Jimmy was the MOST important influence in the Rock scene of the time!
When you hear and see his melodics, rhythmic armonies and playing... WOW...
he is still the man.
I knew about his Cherokee, black and Mexican backgrounds, but not how it
came to happen.
Publius2k
Pirata Azul wrote:
> "Publius2k" <Pub*?@*?li.us> wrote in message
> news:54JX9.2706$Ej7...@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com...
***
> > Try explaining that to the 20,000 peasants who visited San
> > Cristibal on the 1st. Who represents their interests more? The
> > rich who took their land? The government that failed to honor
> > the constitution and protect their land from the rich thieves?
>
No, not wrong. It was 20,000+.
"Originally Published in Spanish by La Jornada
Mexico City, Thursday, January 2, 2003
Front Page
______________________________________
NINTH ANNIVERSARY OF THE ZAPATISTA UPRISING
The EZLN Commanders Break Silence and Take San Cristobal
More than 20,000 Indigenous ask president Vicente Fox where is
peace?
- Warn Peace Commissioner that they will impede his entry into
controlled territory
BY: Hermann Bellinghausen, Correspondent
San Cristobal de las Casas, Chiapas, January 1, 2003.
In the most numerous concentration up to now of Zapatista Army
of
National Liberation (EZLN) support bases, more than 20,000
indigenous
campesinos literally took the city of San Cristobal this
evening. Coming
from all regions of the state, some 20,000 machetes in the hands
of
tzotzils, tzeltals, chols, tojolabals and zoques rang like bells
through
Avenida Insurgentes during the more than three hours that it
took to
fill the central plaza of this city in a column that seemed
unending.
The demonstration concluded with a concentration presided over
by the
commanders of the Zapatista movement. Commanders Esther, David,
Tacho,
Fidelia, Omar, Mister and Bruce Lee directed themselves to the
multitude
with seven speeches which, if any doubt remained, completely
broke the
EZLN's almost two years of silence.
Through them, the EZLN's Indigenous Revolutionary Clandestine
Committee
repeatedly backed up subcomandante Marcos. "We say to you that
when
subcomandante Marcos says he supports the people's political
struggle,
all the Zapatista men, women and children say it," expressed
Comandante
Mister.
Commander Esther directed "a few words" to Mr. Vicente Fox: "I
just say
to you that the people are disenchanted with the your deceipt."
After mentioning the threats of eviction in the Montes Azules,
wrapped
in the same white flowered shawl which she showed to the world
from the
Congress of the Union almost two years ago, the commander asked:
"Where
is the peace? Isn't it important to you that the spirit of those
that
made you president is spoiled?"
A few days before, the indigenous were saying "They are going to
have to
widen the streets of the city of San Cristobal so that we can
fit."
Tonight we see that it was no boast: the Zapatistas overflowed
the
streets and did not fit in the plaza of the cathedral. According
to
experts, it holds 18,000 people. Today it was not sufficient.
Thousands
of natives had to stay in the adjoining streets during the whole
concentration.
The demonstration, more valiant than most, concluded around
midnight
with thousands of lighted ocote torches, illuminating the air
red with
their flames. And they again sounded the machetes, woodcutting
axes,
hoes and other work tools.
Thousands of indigenous people coming from Los Altos began to
congregate
since morning on the outskirts of this city, but the march
started at
six in the evening, when the last contingents arrived from the
Aguascalientes of La Realidad, which took 15 hours by road.
The chants, which were adding themselves all day to the banners
and
signs, were chorused nonstop this evening by the Zapatista
support
bases. "The three powers of the government are racist. Fox just
like
Zedillo. The PAN is like the PRI." Another time they chorused:
"No to
the terrorism of Bush and Bin Laden" and they proclaimed their
support
for the political struggle of the Basque people.
They emphasized greetings and admiration for the "rebels of
Argentina,"
and they proclaimed the "globalization of rebelliousness and
dignity."
They also supported the struggle of Salvador Atenco (without the
San),
asking: "don't stop struggling, because the Zapatistas want
freedom," as
well as the disobedient Italians. In Italy, thousands of them
were
joined together this evening to follow directly the Zapatista
concentration in San Cristobal.
Shouting vivas to subcomandante Marcos, the CCRI, the
autonomoous
municipios and the EZLN insurgents, the demonstrators sent a
clear
message which commanders David and Omar would make explicit
around
midnight: "We came to tell you that we are here and we continue
alive.
We have not surrendered. We are not disunited nor fighting. Why
would we
have to fight among ourselves if we still have those who fight
us."
Calling time and again to the "bad government" of Vicente Fox,
the
Zapatistas from about 40 autonomous municipios expressed strong
criticisms of the political parties, which because of their
respective
interests refused to approve the Cocopa law, "because it is not
convenient for them that there be peace in Chiapas."
In what was the harshest of the speeches, Commander Tacho called
PAN
Senator Diego Fernandez de Cevallos an "advocate of criminals,"
and
accused him of opposing peace in Chiapas "because he wants to be
president, even before 2006," in place of Vicente Fox, "and to
convert
the country into a big plantation." About PRI Senator Manuel
Bartlett,
Tacho said that he was opposed to the Cocopa law and to peace to
make
the U.S. authorities happy, which are investigating him for drug
trafficking.
In relation to the PRD, he said that this party supported the
so-called
Bartlett-Fernandez de Cevallos-Ortega Law only in the Senate "in
exchange for the governorship of Michoacan," and pointed out
that "if
only one senator that had said no to the language," the law
would have
had to be discussed again."
Esther, directing herself to the peace commissioner, Luis H.
Alvarez,
told him: "you were able to choose between being like Camacho or
like
Rabasa, and you chose being like Rabasa," and she announced that
the
EZLN communities no longer will permit him passage through their
con-
trolled territories, because he gives out money in the
communities" to
divide them, and he says that the Zapatistas are "divided" and
"other
lies."
In its severe balancing of "how things are in the world," the
general
command of the EZLN did not fail to denounce TV Azteca's
operation
against CNI, Channel 40, recognizing that the Channel 40's
commenta-
tors were not always objective in relation to the Zapatistas,
Commander
Tacho expressed, nevertheless, the Zapatistas' backup of the
workers of
the attacked TV station. "We cannot see how the work of
reporting is
impeded and remain quiet."
Commander Fidelia directed a moving message to the "exploited,
scorned
and violated" women, and Commander Mister vindicated the
indigenous
right to know the world situation, "to have opinions and to
decide." He
accused the "racist" government for blaming them of not
understanding
the world and not having the right to speak, for example, about
the
struggle of the Basque people.
Before the "globalization of death" that the powerful impose,
Mister
proclaimed the right of everyone to "globalize freedom."
To the Zapatistas, he said, "we are not afraid to speak of the
political
struggle of the Basque people," and he expressed special backup
for the
self-determination of Venezuela and to the "rebel people of
Argentina."
The city of San Cristobal received the Zapatista takeover in
silence,
with doors and windows closed, and its residents heard, barely
showing
themselves, the ringing of the machetes and the thousands of
voices
saying that they will not surrender. As Commander Bruce Lee
said: "We
do not have to ask the government for permission to be free,"
and
defending the universal human right of defiance, he closed: "We
don't
have to ask for anyone's permission."
This evening's Zapatista demonstration is, also, the affirmation
of
belonging to the world and the most profound citizen force of
the modern
Mexican indigenous peoples. They know that they are capable of
teaching
Mexico and the world, and not only of learning.
Upon filling the San Cristobal Plaza this evening, a voice at
the
microphone was asking: "Companeros, let's see if those who are
more
forward can advance." It is a good expression as a metaphor of
what
just happened this evening, which just ended in flames and smoke
in the
plaza, and an echo of voices and work tools (or like those of
the
campesino and indigenous struggle). The civil indigenous
Zapatista is
mature fruit. The racism of the powerful ones no longer can
detain
them. "This struggle is just beginning," David said, in
tzotzil and
castellano, in the last speech of the Zapatista commanders.
And the night was inundated with torches. "Let's make a big
light so
that the people may see that we maintain the rebelliousness
(defiance),"
said David concluding.
_________________________________________
Translation by:
Chiapas Support Committee
P.O. Box 3421
Oakland, CA 94609
(510) 654-9587
email: cez...@igc.org
www.chiapas-support.org
Victor M. Martinez
>No, not wrong. It was 20,000+.
>"Originally Published in Spanish by La Jornada
>Mexico City, Thursday, January 2, 2003
Ahhh... that's your problem. La Jornada is the most biased newspaper in
Mexico. It is also known as "The Ocosingo Times" or "Mexican Pravda".
Publius2k
If you really want to know more, you don't have far to go as
there are good sources on your own college campus:
http://www.eco.utexas.edu/faculty/Cleaver/zapsincyber.html
http://www.eco.utexas.edu/faculty/Cleaver/chiapas95.html
http://www.actlab.utexas.edu/~geneve/zapwomen/
Victor M. Martinez
>If you really want to know more, you don't have far to go as
>there are good sources on your own college campus:
>
>http://www.eco.utexas.edu/faculty/Cleaver/zapsincyber.html
Ahhhh... Dr. Cleaver's diatribes.... no thanks, he's worse than La Jornada.
Publius2k
What problem?
Do you deny that there were more than 200 filling the square in
San Cristobal?
All you do is challenge the source, not the information. That
is an empty challenge as there are numerous corroborating
sources.
"20,000 Zapatistas “Take” San Cristóbal, Break Silence
Friday, January 31, 2003 at 7:30 PM
AK Press
674A 23rd Street, Oakland
Within the last two months, the Zapatistas have issued 8
communiques,
breaking almost 2 years of silence. On January 1, 20,000
civilian
Zapatistas “took” the city of San Cristóbal de las Casas while
their
commanders issued statements to the world."
========
Mexican Zapatistas celebrate 9th anniversary with
anti-government protests
By ALEJANDRO RUIZ
The Associated Press
1/1/03 8:40 PM
SAN CRISTOBAL DE LAS CASAS, Mexico (AP) -- Supporters of
Zapatista rebels
thronged the streets of this historic colonial city Wednesday to
commemorate
the ninth anniversary of the group's uprising against a
government that they
say continues to betray them.
Carrying machetes and wearing their trademark ski masks, about
15,000
Zapatista supporters rolled into town aboard trucks and buses
for the first
joint celebration of the rebels' takeover of San Cristobal and
several other
towns on Jan. 1, 1994.
============
Thu Jan 2, 7:59 PM ET
SAN CRISTOBAL DE LAS CASAS, Mexico -- *** Mayor Enoc Hernandez
said that although 20,000 people marched through San Cristobal's
streets, the damage was minimal.
==========
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 09:39:37 -0800 (PST)
From: Chiapaslink
Subject: Chiapas Update January 2003
To: chiap...@yahoo.com
Chiapas Update January 2003
1. Ninth Anniversary of Zapatista Uprising Marked by
Biggest Mobilization So Far
***
1. Ninth Anniversary of Zapatista Uprising Marked by
Biggest Mobilization So Far
Defying their critics who charge they are divided and
disintegrating, the Zapatistas mobilised their forces
on the 1st January 2003, mustering the largest and
most militant demonstration seen in San Cristobal
since the armed uprising 9 years ago. As many as
20,000 masked militants of the EZLN descended on the
town from all corners of Chiapas armed with machetes
and lighting huge bonfires around the central plaza
and surrounding streets. There were no injuries, and
little damage to property, but the feisty rebels
demonstrated in no uncertain terms that, on the 9th
anniversary of the uprising they are still organised,
still militant and still enraged."
===========
Publius2k
It appears all you can do is attack the messenger and not refute
the message.
adios
Pomponio Magnus, Gobernador Constitucional del Estado Libre y Soberano de Tejas de Santa Anna
I was just joking about Veracruz. There are a lot of Blacks in there
and also in the state of Guerrero. (Mexico has had two mulatto
presidents, both from Guerrero: Vicente Guerrero and Juan Alvarez.) I
don't even know much about Hendrix, sorry if I misled you.
Guz
> Ahhh... that's your problem. La Jornada is the most biased newspaper in
> Mexico. It is also known as "The Ocosingo Times" or "Mexican Pravda".
>
The Ocosingo Times?
:-DDDDDD...
papi2guapo1979
Afro-mestizo(African, Native American, & Spanish ancestry), no just a
mulatto like Jose Maria Morelos! Yes, Veracruz( which there's a statue
of Yanga, the runaway slave!), Guerrero(especially in Costa ChIca!),
Oaxaca, and Chiapas has a lot of Mexicans mixed with African
heritage(especially by appearance), but that's over Mexico because there
were even slave rebellions in Northern Mexico(especially in Chihuahua)
during the Colonial days since the Spanriads brought a lot of African
slaves to that country. The Mexicans' African ancestors assimilated over
years, over years, over years by race-mixing into mestizo race mixture
in Mexico. So that's African presence and history is overlooked, today!
Que muy triste! Don't forget that there were freedmen, runaway slaves,
Kikupus and Seminoles who were from the United States went to Coahuila
in 1850 that racially mixed with Mexicans, over there! There's even a
city called El Nacimiento De Los Negros were they resided at during that
time and most(or I should I say all) Mexicans in that area are
descendants of those African-Americans(including those who were
mulattoes, black-Indians, and those who were tri-racial like myself,
lol!.) and those Native Americans who were from the Kikupu and Seminole
tribes that came from the U.S.! See, I love reading about the history of
the mutiracialism and multiculturalism in Latin America! As a
multiracial man, that's why I love Latin-American/Hispanic culture! QUE
VIVA LA RAZA MIXTA!