Najib: 55% Malays in varsities
YAN: Malays will only make up a maximum 10% of university students in the
country if there is no quota system in the intake of students, Education
Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak said yesterday.
He said that without the quota system, Malays would perhaps make up 5% of
students or at most 10%.
"There are now more than 55% of Malays in local universities because of the
quota system," he said when launching an UPSR upgrading programme at Yan
Religious Secondary School here.
Najib said the Government placed emphasis on education and had, among
others, increased the intake of matriculation students and set up the
National Education Fund to sponsor students for higher studies.
On the role of parents in their children's education, he said that every
household should have a reading corner.
Speaking to reporters later, he said the ministry hoped that states would
request the Public Works Department to look into safety features of
religious schools.
He said they should ensure that safety features were adhered to as there
have been several fires at religious schools.
Najib, however, said the ministry was willing to give its co-operation and
help through the respective state education departments.
He was commenting on a recent fire at a religious school hostel in Tobiar,
Pendang in which three students were killed.
>Tuesday, June 30, 1998
>
>Najib: 55% Malays in varsities
>
>YAN: Malays will only make up a maximum 10% of university students in the
>country if there is no quota system in the intake of students, Education
>Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak said yesterday.
>He said that without the quota system, Malays would perhaps make up 5% of
>students or at most 10%.
>
>"There are now more than 55% of Malays in local universities because of the
>quota system," he said when launching an UPSR upgrading programme at Yan
>Religious Secondary School here.
>
>Najib said the Government placed emphasis on education and had, among
>others, increased the intake of matriculation students and set up the
>National Education Fund to sponsor students for higher studies.
>
The Education Ministry should look into the reason why after so many
years of government aids, the bumis are still unable to compete on
their own merits.
Quota system will not produce competitive graduates if those that went
in are of poor quality. To become a strong country in the future we
need people that are capable to compete with foreigners. Its about
time the ministry look into their failure and find a better way to
increase the competitiveness of the bumis.
Such as low self esteem , family factor, traditional factor, or maybe just
over reliance on NEP, thus they do not want to work hard?
I believe that bumi can be as smart as anyone. Just look at the way Dr. M
turn the tides againt him to his advantage. This is a very shrewd and
cunning play, which I had fail to even anticipate or guessed.
Regards,
LOUD
Arctura <Arct...@Hotmail.com> wrote in article
<6naig0$h1f$1...@news.tm.net.my>...
LOUD wrote in message <01bda448$50c302c0$LocalHost@default>...
>I believe that bumi can be as smart as anyone. Just look at the way Dr. M
>turn the tides againt him to his advantage. This is a very shrewd and
>cunning play, which I had fail to even anticipate or guessed.
==========================================
Ahem....cunning and shrewdness is NOT the same as intelligence. I know a lot
of qualified professionals who are NOT cunning and shrewd and a lot of
non-qualified people who are 'cunning & shrewd'.
JST
That means in an open competition, 60% of the population would
get 7.5% university places while the remaining 40% would get
92.5%.
This is even worst than pre-1969 figures, I believe.
For whatever reason the figures where given, I think YB's
hypothesis is wrong or the report is wrong.
regards,
michael ... afn2...@afn.org
" 72. We did indeed offer the Trust to the Heavens and the Earth and the
Mountains; but they refused to undertake it, being afraid thereof: but
man undertook it;- He was indeed unjust and foolish;-"
Translation of Al-Quran 33:72
"
R.Draco wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Jun 1998 19:29:56 +0800, "Arctura" <Arct...@Hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Tuesday, June 30, 1998
> >
> >Najib: 55% Malays in varsities
> >
> >YAN: Malays will only make up a maximum 10% of university students in
> the
> >country if there is no quota system in the intake of students,
> Education
> >Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak said yesterday.
> >He said that without the quota system, Malays would perhaps make up
> 5% of
> >students or at most 10%.
> >
This study was done 20 years ago and it also shows that IQ will improve by 3
points in for every succeeding generation, through proper nutrition and diet.
If the above study is valid, then most Malays would have reached their
'average' IQ by now, while East Asian chinese would be considered 'above
average'....
I think you can draw you own conclusion.....whatever it is.....
michael wrote:
> In article <6naig0$h1f$1...@news.tm.net.my> Arct...@Hotmail.com writes:
> >
> >Tuesday, June 30, 1998
> >
> >Najib: 55% Malays in varsities
> >
> >YAN: Malays will only make up a maximum 10% of university students in the
> >country if there is no quota system in the intake of students, Education
> >Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak said yesterday.
> >He said that without the quota system, Malays would perhaps make up 5% of
> >students or at most 10%.
>I've read some human intelligence studies on the internet 'claiming' that
>average Malay's IQ is about 96.....and the East Asian Chinese is about 107.
>
>This study was done 20 years ago and it also shows that IQ will improve by 3
>points in for every succeeding generation, through proper nutrition and diet.
>
>If the above study is valid, then most Malays would have reached their
>'average' IQ by now, while East Asian chinese would be considered 'above
>average'....
>
>I think you can draw you own conclusion.....whatever it is.....
Mainly that IQ tests conclusively demonstrate how well you fill in an
IQ test form.
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Allah says in Al-Quran;
20. Know ye (all), that the life of this world is but play and
amusement, pomp and mutual boasting and multiplying, (in rivalry)
among yourselves, riches and children. Here is a similitude: How rain
and the growth which it brings forth, delight (the hearts of)
the tillers; soon it withers; thou wilt see it grow yellow; then it
becomes dry and crumbles away. But in the Hereafter is a Penalty
severe (for the devotees of wrong). And Forgiveness from Allah and (His)
Good Pleasure (for the devotees of Allah.. And what
is the life of this world, but goods and chattels of deception?
Translation of surah al-Hadid 57:20
John wrote:
> I've read some human intelligence studies on the internet 'claiming'
> that
> average Malay's IQ is about 96.....and the East Asian Chinese is about
> 107.
>
> This study was done 20 years ago and it also shows that IQ will
> improve by 3
> points in for every succeeding generation, through proper nutrition
> and diet.
>
> If the above study is valid, then most Malays would have reached their
>
> 'average' IQ by now, while East Asian chinese would be considered
> 'above
> average'....
>
> I think you can draw you own conclusion.....whatever it is.....
>
Subir De.
In article <6naig0$h1f$1...@news.tm.net.my>,
"Arctura" <Arct...@Hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Tuesday, June 30, 1998
>
> Najib: 55% Malays in varsities
>
> YAN: Malays will only make up a maximum 10% of university students in the
> country if there is no quota system in the intake of students, Education
> Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak said yesterday.
> He said that without the quota system, Malays would perhaps make up 5% of
> students or at most 10%.
>
> "There are now more than 55% of Malays in local universities because of the
> quota system," he said when launching an UPSR upgrading programme at Yan
> Religious Secondary School here.
>
> Najib said the Government placed emphasis on education and had, among
> others, increased the intake of matriculation students and set up the
> National Education Fund to sponsor students for higher studies.
>
> On the role of parents in their children's education, he said that every
> household should have a reading corner.
>
> Speaking to reporters later, he said the ministry hoped that states would
> request the Public Works Department to look into safety features of
> religious schools.
>
> He said they should ensure that safety features were adhered to as there
> have been several fires at religious schools.
>
> Najib, however, said the ministry was willing to give its co-operation and
> help through the respective state education departments.
>
> He was commenting on a recent fire at a religious school hostel in Tobiar,
> Pendang in which three students were killed.
>
>
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Arctura wrote in message <6naig0$h1f$1...@news.tm.net.my>...
The ONLY guarantee in life of a human race is BIRTH and DEATH. That is
something no human being is able to avoid. Between birth and death there are
70 years of life on earth. If a particular human race devote its entire 70
years looking for some afterlife guarantee, then that race is DOOMED,
because you will be so far behind other races in everything on this planet
earth that everyone will be smarter than you, have more knowledge than you,
wealthier than you and ultimately take over and DESTROY you because you're
consider STUPID !!
HambaAllah wrote:
> > > >Tuesday, June 30, 1998
> > > >
> > > >Najib: 55% Malays in varsities
> > > >
> > > >YAN: Malays will only make up a maximum 10% of university students
> > in the
> > > >country if there is no quota system in the intake of students,
> > Education
> > > >Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak said yesterday.
> > > >He said that without the quota system, Malays would perhaps make up
> > 5% of
> > > >students or at most 10%.
Regards,
LOUD
subir...@mail.sprint.com wrote in article
<6ndduo$23v$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
In article <01bda50e$7c3f72a0$LocalHost@default>,
"LOUD" <lo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> In other word, politicized an issue and justify for the NEP, gain support
> from a specific group. AND ignore the real problem and refuse to encourage
> the BUMI. Maybe this is the only way to make the bumi depend on the great
> leader to guide them through. COme on, Malaysia do not have that much
> resources to support the NEP endlessly. Our bumi counterpart has to learn
> to compete and stop relying on the politician. Please stand on your own
> feet and help the country, not request the country to help you... I had
> seen so many capable bumi who stood on their own feet and proof that they
> are as smart. Yet there are so many who choose the easy way out....
>
> Regards,
>
> LOUD
Yes, exactly. It is a little late now for the talk of UMNO, bumiputras,
ugama, nepotisme etc.. We have gotten used to the capital inflow from the
International hot money. Now that the supply has been cut off, it is going to
be very difficult to maintain the same standard of living which we have
gotten used to.
Our good Doktor and all his Datuks and Tan Sris are now only interested in
saving their political careers. But I really do hope that there is one
bumiputra who understands the nature of the problem. This economic mess is
well beyond the confines of our usual bumiputra issues.
Subir De.
adchin wrote in message <6ndhnd$npu$1...@news.tm.net.my>...
> My God !! Najib has to stop making statements like these if he wants to
>become No2 in the forthcoming elections. He may want the statement to mean
>that the Malays cannot afford to pay for the costs, but apparently,
everyone
>in my family thinks that he means that the Malays are stupid.
<snip>
That's how I read it/understood it too....
Minority of the Malays are very smart indeed! They are expert in
manipulating others especially their own race.
As for the qouta, I think 30% should be right instead of 55%. Why deprive
the other races of so many places in the universities? How can our country
progress fast with such tactic played by the government?
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha................................
Not very nice you know.....
1. they do not need to learn / use any other languages apart from their own.
The ability to master a foreign language
is often seen as the yardstick of intelligence.
2. They get jobs and a pie of the economic pie easily without
really any hardwork because of the quota system
3. Everything in malaysia is 'malay-centred'. So the malays have everything
conveniently laid down for them..
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Captain Picard wrote in message <6nfbm3$2p5$1...@news.tm.net.my>...
Captain Picard wrote:
> malays are under-achievers in this country because of these
> factors..
>
this is because a person academic excellence
is largely based on his own hardwork and brains
not on the brains of his teachers!
I suspect the mean IQ of malays are about 80-90. Read "The Bell Curve" by
Richard J. Herrnstein & Charles Murray . It will be very unlikely for the
malays to able compete with the world just like Africa's inability to compete
despite over abundant of natural resources. The 33% of chinese residing in
Malaysia actually helped to push the national average IQ up to respectable
standard. By actually depriving the chinese from continuing post secondary
studies, they are actually wasting valuable national resources.
Dari post diatas bdamage mungkin nak kata yg sesuatu bangsa tu bodoh
disebabkan keturunan.Disini aku nak bagi pendapat aku;-
1)Aku ada tengok dokumentari tentang IQ ni dekat TV disini.(Jepun).Menurut
dokumentari tu pencapaian IQ seseorang tu boleh ditingkatkan dengan cara
memberi latihan yg khusus kepada seseorang tu.(terutamanya kanak-kanak).Dan
menurut kajian IQ sesuatu puak atau golongan akan meningkat apabila mereka
lebih didedahkan kepada dunia moden/budaya moden.Contohnya ,IQ orang Filipin
yg tinggal di Filipina rendah sedikit dibandingkan dengan White,tetapi
setelah berhijrah ke Amerika didapti generasi ke2,3 bangsa Filipin meningkat
setaraf dengan White.Disini cuba ditekankan yg budaya lebih mempengaruhi dpd
keturunan.
2) Secara genetiknya kaum Cina yg datang kat Malaysia(kebanyakannya datang
dari kawasan selatan China spt Kanton dll)menurut pemeriksaan DNA didapati
lebih hampir kepada golongan Austronesia berbanding Cina Han(yg tinggal
dikwsn lbh utara).Ada pendapat yg mengatakan yg mereka ini telah
diassimilasikan kedalam bangsa Cina(Han).Lagi sekali ingin ditekankan disini
yg culture lbh mempengaruhi dlm pencapaian IQ seseorang.
secara pribadi,aku percaya tinggi rendah nya IQ seseorang tu tak sedikitpun
menjamin kebahagiaan atau ketakbahgiaaan seseorang.Dan walaupun kedengaran
agak tak logik,aku percaya yg kekayaan atau kemiskinan tu tak menjamin
kebahgiaan atau ketakbahagiaan seseorang tu.Yang lebih penting ialah
bagaimana hati kita menerima sesuatu keadaan tu.sorry melencong sikit.
Apa-apa pun,dari post bdamage,jelas ketidakpuasaan hatinya terhadap bangsa
Malay.(akibat rasa didiskrimainasi mugkin).Tetapi aku rasa penyelesaian tak
mungkin dapat dicapai dengan sikap semacam ini(mencerca,menghina dll).apatah
lagi dgn bansa Melayu (yang sangat mementingkan maruah).
Aku rasa pokok utama masalah ialah sikap prasangka antara kedua-dua kaum.Dari
pengalaman aku ramai orang melayu yg mempunyai prasangka ,prejudis terhadap
bangsa Cina.So,lankah bijak yg orang Cina boleh buat ialah:-
1)Jujur dalam pergaulan dengan bangsa Melayu tak kira dalam apa jua
bidang.Insyaalah ini akan mengeraakkan hati orang melayu.
2)Tunjukkan kebanggaan anda sebagai orang Malaysia.saya percaya kebanyakan
orang Cina bangga sbgai rakyat Malaysia tetapi penting untuk menujukkannya.Ini
akanmenghilangkan prasangka yang orang Cina tak setia kpd mlaysia.
3)Jangan mencerca agama Islam dan Bahasa Kebangsaan.
tambahan
4)Kuasai BM dgn fasih(of course tak perlu tinggalkan bahasa ibunda sendiri)
Dan aku percaya kalu kaum Cina mengamalkan perkara diatas,lambat laun
majoriti orang melayu akan sedar akan kesilapan mereka dan kaum cina akan
dilayan setaraf dgn mereka.semua diatas adalah pendapat peribadi aku.
Heiwa na maresia, eien ni.
Moga keamanan berpanjangan di Malaysia.
#noraneko#
...
: I suspect the mean IQ of malays are about 80-90. Read "The Bell Curve" by
: Richard J. Herrnstein & Charles Murray . It will be very unlikely for
the
: malays to able compete with the world just like Africa's inability to
compete
: despite over abundant of natural resources. The 33% of chinese residing
in
A racist view will not help you anywhere.
: Malaysia actually helped to push the national average IQ up to
respectable
: standard. By actually depriving the chinese from continuing post
secondary
: studies, they are actually wasting valuable national resources.
Will such a high IQ, why don't they just find the resources to continue
further,
instead of whining about LACK OF SUBSIDIES FOR THE PRINCE OF MALAYSIA.
> : I suspect the mean IQ of malays are about 80-90. Read "The Bell Curve" by
> : Richard J. Herrnstein & Charles Murray . It will be very unlikely for
> the
> : malays to able compete with the world just like Africa's inability to
> compete
> : despite over abundant of natural resources. The 33% of chinese residing
>: in Malaysia actually helped to push the national average IQ up to
>: respectable standard. By actually depriving the chinese from continuing post
>: secondary studies, they are actually wasting valuable national resources.
>
> A racist view will not help you anywhere.
>
Not a racist view but a reaction to the racist laws in Malaysia.
> Will such a high IQ, why don't they just find the resources to continue
> further,
> instead of whining about LACK OF SUBSIDIES FOR THE PRINCE OF MALAYSIA.
>
What resources to find for the Malaysian Chinese when every avenue in choked
by the racist agenda of the goverment? People are not looking for subsidies
like you guys. People are looking for freedom to live like a citizen of a
country of birth. Not marginalized to benefit another race. You know, sort of
like cows bred to provide milk and meat.
One has to be very intelligent to be shrewd and cunninng.. shrewd and cunning
is part of inteligent.. Anyway, it is a relative terms, shrewd can be very
smart person...
Regards,
LOUD
In article <6nbojf$p...@news2.jaring.my>,
bda...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> In article <3599083a...@news.tm.net.my>,
> riven...@usa.net (R.Draco) wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 30 Jun 1998 19:29:56 +0800, "Arctura" <Arct...@Hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Tuesday, June 30, 1998
> > >
> > >Najib: 55% Malays in varsities
> > >
> > >YAN: Malays will only make up a maximum 10% of university students in the
> > >country if there is no quota system in the intake of students, Education
> > >Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak said yesterday.
> > >He said that without the quota system, Malays would perhaps make up 5% of
> > >students or at most 10%.
> > >
> > >"There are now more than 55% of Malays in local universities because of the
> > >quota system," he said when launching an UPSR upgrading programme at Yan
> > >Religious Secondary School here.
> > >
> > >Najib said the Government placed emphasis on education and had, among
> > >others, increased the intake of matriculation students and set up the
> > >National Education Fund to sponsor students for higher studies.
> > >
> >
> > The Education Ministry should look into the reason why after so many
> > years of government aids, the bumis are still unable to compete on
> > their own merits.
> > Quota system will not produce competitive graduates if those that went
> > in are of poor quality. To become a strong country in the future we
> > need people that are capable to compete with foreigners. Its about
> > time the ministry look into their failure and find a better way to
> > increase the competitiveness of the bumis.
> >
> >
>
> I suspect the mean IQ of malays are about 80-90. Read "The Bell Curve" by
> Richard J. Herrnstein & Charles Murray . It will be very unlikely for the
> malays to able compete with the world just like Africa's inability to compete
> despite over abundant of natural resources. The 33% of chinese residing in
> Malaysia actually helped to push the national average IQ up to respectable
> standard. By actually depriving the chinese from continuing post secondary
> studies, they are actually wasting valuable national resources.
>
tjlim wrote in message <35A6D184...@ozemail.com.au>...
We learned from a certain other race :)
> As for the qouta, I think 30% should be right instead of 55%. Why deprive
> the other races of so many places in the universities? How can our country
> progress fast with such tactic played by the government?
Why deprive the poor malays of so many places in universities?
55% is just right and reflects the population mix. What kind of screwed up
country is it where 55% of the population only get 30% of the seats?
And Malaysia HAS been progressing fast. Remember the 90-97 boom?
average of 8% GDP growth,and we had quotas then?
Rambo Chin is an idiot. Irgun is hopelessly deluded.
The rest of you are impotent fools addicted to Viagra.
"To ridicule Rambo Chin is glorious"...