Flu only kills 257 in USA in 2001
Ir. Hj. Othman bin Hj. Ahmad
These data may look old but this is the only data available and most
reliable. It took time for these data to be analysed and published.
Our common sense should tell us about the real deaths due to common
flu. In my whole life, I had never heard any flu deaths but
malnutritions, yes, although I have not seen these deaths personally.
The fact that there are a lot of deaths already due to swine flu shows
how dangerous Swine flu is compared to common flu.
The total data for flu and pneumonia deaths are 60,000 but for those
confirmed with flu is only 257. It shows that there were attempts to
separate these cases. Come on, it is easy to diagnose flu, compared to
just pneumonia, and flu doesn't kill, it is the pneumonia that kills
as a result of the flu.
You can interpret the data, as those killed by pneumonia but some are
induced by flu. Not 30,000 as claimed. Maybe someone just want to give
the average figure thinking that these pneumonia deaths were not
tested for flu, but flu symptoms are obvious.
Even in the current Swine flu deaths, only those that exhibit flu
symptoms were tested. Not all pneumonia deaths are tested for flu.
Maybe it is a good idea to start now. Maybe we can determine who have
flu or not. I doubt it will be many given the mild nature of common
flu.
http://www.thinktwice.com/flu_lie.htm
Read the above which refers to this data from CDC.
http://thinktwice.com/cdc_2001.pdf
National Vital Statistics Reports NVSS CDC
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Volume 52, Number 3 September 18, 2003
Deaths: Final Data for 2001
by Elizabeth Arias, Ph.D.; Robert N. Anderson, Ph.D.; Hsiang-Ching
Kung, Ph.D.;
Sherry L. Murphy, B.S.; Kenneth D. Kochanek, M.A.; Division ofVital
Statistics
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Table 10. Number of deaths from 113 selected causes by age: United
States, 2001 National Vital Statistics Reports, Vol. 52, No. 3,
September 18, 2003 Pages 30-33
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Cause of death (Based on the Tenth Revision, All Under 1-4 5-14 15-24
25-34 35-44 45-54 55-64 65-74 75-84 85 years Not
International Classification of Diseases, 1992) ages 1 year years
years years years years years years years years and over stated
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All causes ................................................ 2,416,425
27,568 5,108 7,094 32,252 41,683 91,674 168,065 244,139 430,960
701,929 665,531 422
Influenza and pneumonia (J10-J18) ........ 62,034 299 112 92 181 339
983 1,801 2,704 6,650 18,677 30,191 5
Influenza (J10-J11) ............................ 257 7 6 12 7 10 6 15
21 21 56 96 -
Pneumonia (J12-J18) ............................ 61,777 292 106 80 174
329 977 1,786 2,683 6,629 18,621 30,095 5
Malnutrition (E40-E46) ........................... 3,454 2 - 2 9 13 39
99 146 347 1,025 1,772 -
Asthma (J45-J46) ..................................... 4,269 10 31 99
140 233 455 603 553 634 802 709 -
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Note: This is an abridged version of the complete table.
Larry
Because those Ango-Saxton countries currently experiences a severe
recession, they simply can not afford another chaotic within their society.
For example if their people know many people died for Swin Flu, then they
will not go to the work or shop. This can bring more damage to the economy
which was already brittle. So they do whateven they can to keep their
society remain calm such as lysing about these flu deaths, so theri countres
can survive this recession. They want their citizen to believe that their
societies is as normal as possible.
"Ir. Hj. Othman bin Hj. Ahmad" <oth...@lycos.com> wrote in message
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Ir. Hj. Othman bin Hj. Ahmad
> On Sat,4Jul200900:25:28-0700(PDT), "Ir. Hj. Othman bin Hj.
>
...
> Find out what J12and J18are, to see how silly you are.
Since I don't intend to be a doctor, I don't need to know. I just read
the data prepared by specialists, and compare them with previous data
for consistencies.
>
> >These data may look old but this is the only data available and most
> >reliable. It took time for these data to be analysed and published.
>
> False - the "Death: Final Figures for2006" report (NVSR Vol.57No.14) has been out for some time now. You are evidently not competent
> to find even basic statistical data, but instead pretend that you know
> all.
I don't even pretend to be a doctor. I just interpret data that is
available to me.
2001, is 2001 data. What is wrong with that data? Are you scared of
historical data?
In case your manipulations are detected?
...
> Perhaps it would be helpful if you found out what pneumonia is?
You are indeed underestimating people. So you think only you know
about Pneumonia?
...
> >Even in the current Swine flu deaths, only those that exhibit flu
> >symptoms were tested. Not all pneumonia deaths are tested for flu.
> >Maybe it is a good idea to start now. Maybe we can determine who have
> >flu or not. I doubt it will be many given the mild nature of common
> >flu.
>
> You would be unlikely to know if your own arse was on fire.
At least I have the data from other experts unlike you, who rely more
on your knowledge.
>
> --
> Cheers
> Paul Saccani
> Perth, Western Australia.
Ir. Hj. Othman bin Hj. Ahmad
> On Mon,6Jul200906:48:48-0700(PDT), "Ir. Hj. Othman bin Hj.
>
...
>
> That would be why what I say agrees with the expert view, whilst what
> you have to say belongs in the lunatic fringe!
You mean all experts who believe that Swine flu is more dangerous than
common flu are all lunatics???
WHO experts are certainly those people that you call lunatic.
>
> What a crackpot you are.
You still do not consider yourself a crackport.