Hungarian rock bands
Michael J. Csiki
>Hi Folks:
[clipped]
>If anyone has any recommendations of some other bands in Hungary (along the
>above lines), I would be much appreciative. I don't know how folks in
>Hungary feel about the above bands but I can tell you that some folks here
>in the United States (like me) really dig them! Basically, many blend
>rock, jazz, classical and traditional hungarian folk (Panta Rhei even has an
>album where they perform Bartok compositions on keyboards) done in such a
>killer-awesome way!!! Totally creative. More creative (by far) than
>anything I have heard done by American bands.
>And what's awesome is the added eastern-euro touch to the music that I
>simply love!
Well Theron all I can tell ya is what I have in my humble little tape
collection and I'm eager to ahre that with you bearing in mind the
list you gave is one I definitely will check out. And thanks for the
names you gave.
Kathago
Edda <---most anything by them, but particularly Edda Blues
Skorpio
Little Sister <--techno/house
Mate Peter is more ballads and 70s-ish
Takacs Tamas
Tatrai Banda
Presser Gabor
All different styles represented above. No Hungarian rock
collection is complete without Istvan A Kiraly.
Happy Searches,
MikeC in Chicago
Zsolt
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> Hi Folks:
>
> Strictly on the topic here. I live in the US but have been buying a lot
of
> rock/jazz and art rock from the Hungarian music scene which I found to be
> very interesting. Just as Italy, France, Spain, and Germany have
excellent
> music in the Europe, I was very surprised (pleasantly) to find some of the
> following Hungarian bands/performers in Hungary to be excellent:
>
> Julius Dobos
> Omega
> AT Ensemble
> Agoston Trio
> Szamaba
> Kolinda
> Talizman
> After Crying
> Solaris
> Rumblin' Orchestra
> Color
> Colorstar
> Attila Kollar
> Karpat Mobius
> Korai Orom
> Panta Rhei
> Kormoran
> East ("Huseg" may be the best rock album from the 1980's)
> Varga, Janos
> etc...
>
> Those are all (as you're aware of) bands that are formed in Hungary.
>
> Am ordering some Masfel and Kada (never heard their music but am sure I
will
> like them both)... Anyone know if the Carpathia Project from Hungary is
> worth checking out? How about the older 70's band Sirius? I heard
only
> 2 songs from Locomotive GT and did not care much for them but those "could
> have" been their worst 2 songs so it's hard for me to draw a conclusion on
> them.
>
> If anyone has any recommendations of some other bands in Hungary (along
the
> above lines), I would be much appreciative. I don't know how folks in
> Hungary feel about the above bands but I can tell you that some folks here
> in the United States (like me) really dig them! Basically, many blend
> rock, jazz, classical and traditional hungarian folk (Panta Rhei even has
an
> album where they perform Bartok compositions on keyboards) done in such a
> killer-awesome way!!! Totally creative. More creative (by far) than
> anything I have heard done by American bands.
> And what's awesome is the added eastern-euro touch to the music that I
> simply love!
>
> Theron
Well,here are some more:
Syrius-jazz rock (creme de la creme)
Mini -jazz rock blues(lots of flute)
Taurus-guitarplayer Radics Bela and his group
LGT-particularly the first 3 albums(the 3rd album-BUMM-features Jack Bruce
on harmonica)
but the first two albums are the real things(the second album has a
song called
Lincoln Festival Blues- an awesome guitar solo by Bartha Tamas;in my
opinion
the best stuff Central Europe can offer and certainly it is
unequalled)
Their collection of singles are also a must have too in my opinion
If You like a bit weird but original music:
Bikini-their first album has some amazing guitar solos
Nagy Fero& The Beatrice-their Hamlet is out of this world!:)))
Good luck
Zsolt
Gustav Horvath
>Hi...
>
>thanks so much for those!!! I will probobly check out Mini and Syrius
>("Devil's Masquerade" from 1972) within the month. I was curious about
>Mini as I heard them before. Since I love flutes, it's an automatic for
>me!!!
Gyerekek, meg e valakinek a Syriustol a Szettort almok c. lemez?
Vagy valami az erdeti Minitol, az elso felallasban?
Ha igen, tegyetek mar fel a Napsterra hadd terjedjen a kultura, mig
lehet.
Gustav
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stuff via Napster, listen to what you want, buy what appeals -- sort of test
drive the music. I have always enjoyed the Hobo Blues Band. Also Napster
provides you with the opportunity of locating & downloading old music which
is "out of print".
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I forgot about Beatrice. There is also Coitus Punk.
> Good luck
> Zsolt
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> simply love!
> Theron
Hi Theron;
The following is something I wrote back in the mid-80's when I had a column
called Poetry is Poetency. I add it here for your interest or not.
Wally Keeler
==========================
Speak-Up Magazine, May/June1985
POETRY IS POETENCY
Compiled by the Creative Intelligence Agency
A Kolteszet A Lehetoseg
In the fields a young
Shock worker is standing
He's just come from a
Communist Saturday meeting
Duli-dul-balalajka!
Duli-dul-balalajka!
Statues and pictures -
You schematic bandit The worker's hero has to
Play along with it
Duli-dul-balalajka!
Duli-dul-balalajka!
Rotten stinking
Communist gang -
Why has nobody
Hanged them yet?
Duli-dul-balalajka!
Duli-dul-balalajka!
While the members of the Hungarian rock group CPG (Coitus Punk Group) belted
out the above lyrics, they tore apart a live chicken and threw the pieces at
the audience of youths. Another member of the punk rock group slashed his
face and arms with a razor blade while continuing to sing.
Such acts are not unknown in the West; rock singer, Ozzie Osborne, formerly
of Black Sabbath, had on one occasion bitten off the heads of bats, but
ceased this activity when he was required to take rabies shots. Alice Cooper
was another rock star who had outraged his audiences with animals and snakes
in his acts, but none of this lead to criminal charges.
The limits of communist tolerance in Hungary was reached after this rock
concert. Three members of the Coitus Punk Group from Szeged were given two
years in jail and a fourth member, who was a juvenile, was given an 18 month
suspended sentence. They were charged with "public incitement to disafection
on a continuous basis as members of a group."
The Hungarian criminal code indicates quite clearly that the crime of
incitement is commited when a group "seeks to arouse feelings of hatred
directed against the constitutional order of the Hungarian People's
Republic." Various slogans of the anti-nuke peace movement made up the
lyrics of SS20. The punk rock group had painted nazi swastikas in their
drumskins and belted out the angry peace song, SS20:
The Soviet bomb
Is also a bomb
I cannot stand
Total war
The police harass me
No matter what
The U.S. bomb
Is also a bomb
In the East-block
And the West-bloc
They are struggling
For power
SS20 in the East
Power is Power
In the East
And the West
There is harassment
Everywhere
The concert audience went wild with appreciation for the blatant defiance of
Coitus Punk Group, which is the progressive culmination of Hungarian punk
rock since 1977. A few years previously, the Beatrice punk group had
achieved a measure of notoriety when it took up the habit of flinging bags
og milk at concert audiences.
This development of Hungarian youth culture first arose during the mid-70's
when rock music and underground art began to interest 14-24 year olds. The
prototypes of this culture were the "csoves" - a Hungarian word meaning
someone without permanent accommodation who lives in a sewer.
The csoves, or sewer-dwellers have taken up the lyrics of 1930's Hungarian
poet, Atilla Joszef, and recited them as an anthem. "Culture drops off me
like the clothes off a happy lover."
When poet Jozsef was a student, his anarchistic poetry won him a judicial
fine, specifically for writing, "I have no father. I have no mother. I have
no god. And I have no country." This same sort of nihilistic attitude has
manifested itself in significant portions of youth culture in all countries
of the Eastern-bloc.
Zsolt
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Wally
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> http://www.guards.hu/garazs/index2.htm
>
Gustav Horvath
>(...)
>I am a spoiled/rotten/American-bred Hungarian ;-) As such, there was no
>reason for me to learn/speak the language :-)
thats ok everyone knows english
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I think it would be courteous to inform "tbk" in English what you told him
in Hungarian. Although he did not explicitly request such, it would appear
that such a request was implied. Of course, you don;t have to if that is
your wish.
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> > I think it would be courteous to inform "tbk" in English what you told
him
> > in Hungarian. Although he did not explicitly request such, it would
appear
> > that such a request was implied. Of course, you don;t have to if that is
> > your wish.
>
He devotes his rare cussing only for me -- the FASZ kurva. :-)
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> > drive the music. I have always enjoyed the Hobo Blues Band. Also Napster
> > provides you with the opportunity of locating & downloading old music
> which
> > is "out of print".
>
of
> the best bands in the world!!!
> They're acclaimed as Hungary's best but I'm finding out that so many
> excellent bands are cropping up from Hungary in the 1990's and 2000.
Thanks for the tip -- I will follow up. Perhaps liberation from the commies
liberated a long pent up creativity.
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> The kind of rock I am into (as is Edward A.) is more of an art-rock
fashion
> (also known as progressive) which includes the more famous bands like Pink
> Floyd, Yes and Jethro Tull.
Laurie Anderson?
> The bands that I mentioned from Hungary (in
> the original post) fall more into that category than the punk/alternative
> rock. I am finding out that Hungary is pumping out quite a bit of
art-rock
> bands in the last 10 years and I love it!!!
>
> Shows to me that Hungary is an incredibly creative country when it comes
to
> art-rock music.
Very True! Just to run it up the flagpole: one of Canada's cult-adulated
bands is The Tragically Hip -- it's been around for many years and gets the
maple syrup flowing in the veins of ex-pat Canucks.
> I used to be into punk rock and heavy metal about 5-10 years ago but my
> tastes have changed. Don't know if it's because I am getting older (at a
> ripe old age of 34) or what have you :-)
>
> Regards and thanks for your interesting post,
> Theron
>
>
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> The Hungarian music scene was pretty much dead during the 70's with the
> exception of Omega and a few of the others... But as you say, it was due
to
> being controlled by the government. But let me say that since there
seems
> to be some sort of musical revolution (in terms of art-rock) going on in
> Hungary since 1990 or something because there's a bunch of bands sprouting
> out music that sounds way better than anything I have heard from America
in
> the 1990's. No fooling! Since exploring european rock bands from
> hungary, italy, and other countries, I have completely lost my
> taste/interest in the American rock bands of the 1990's because the stuff
in
> europe is leaps and bounds more creative/moving. The stuff from America
> seems to be nothing but money-motivated and the band members in the US
bands
> (there are a few exceptions but not much) care more about how they look in
> front of the camera and how many girls they can get by shaking their
bodies
> like jello on stage rather than how creative/moving their music is. I
saw
> VH1's top-10 this week. I can "easily" say that all-10 songs are a
> thousand times weaker and less-creative than just about everything I have
> heard from Hungary and other euro-countries.
>
> So definitely check out the european art-rock scene if you're in the mood
> for something different and far more creative.
I think you may have re-newed my lapsed interest. During the 1980's I was
rather tuned in to the "dissident" rock scene in EEurope. I made a few bad
choices, selecting rock groups that played NAmerican music. I preferred rock
that was much more indiginous, that reflected or referred to their
particular culture.
Today I bought myself an audio cable to transfer my cassette collection to
my HHD. I'm using MusicMatch for format conversions. I will eventually be
posting stuff from the following:
ELECTROMANTIC
1982, Hungarian electronic music by Presser Gabor
GAMMAPOLIS
1979, Omega 9
ROZMARI
1990, Szkarosi Endre & Konnektor RT
I first met Szkarosi Endre in the small Hungarian city of Kalocsa at an arts
conference. He is an avante-garde poet, also involved in sound poetry. One
of his sound poems saved me at the border going into Ceausescu's Romania
from Hungary. The cassette consisted of grunt explorations. :-) But Rozmari
is a bit more accessable, some in English. Interestingly, Szkarosi Endre,
once the commies fell, put out Hungary's full avante garde art journal
called Hogyfutur and he was busted within the year for defaming the
Hungarian Coat of Arms by publishing it on the cover page,
XX. SZAZADI HIRADO
1984, Bikini & Szkarosi Endre
VADASZAT
1984, double cassette concept tape by Hobo Blues Band
POST REMONT
1981, by Kelner, a Polish Punk Group -- atrocious recording standard.
LABORATOR
1984, by Olympic, a Czech Heavy Metal Group, some good cuts.
BIJELO DUGME
1984, by Bijelo Dugme, Serbian rock, music to ethnically cleanse by. They
are somewhat nationalistic in their music.
Some good cuts, fusion of Serbian folk with rock.
JA SAM LAZLJIVA
1985, by Denis & Denis, Serbian techno rock
LACRIMAE CHRISTI
1983, Slovenian/Croatian rock
Eventually I will also upload these to alt.binaries.*
Keep in touch,
Da Svidanya
Wally Keeler
I don't want to overstay my
> welcome on this group as I hope I have not offended anyone with this email
> but you're welcome to email me offline for recommendations on other bands
to
> check out (from Europe) in this genre. That's been a hobby of mine to
> explore/collect music from euro-bands and South American rock bands and
> such.
>
> thanks,
> Theron
>
>
Zsolt
You can find it in:
alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.1970s
Regards,
Zsolt
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> Hi...
>
> thanks so much for those!!! I will probobly check out Mini and Syrius
> ("Devil's Masquerade" from 1972) within the month. I was curious about
> Mini as I heard them before. Since I love flutes, it's an automatic for
> me!!!
>
> Regards,
Zsolt
It is very important that You get some stuff
from A.E.Bizottsag.That is art rock or art
music,You can call it whatever You want,
they're a class by themselves.
Their music is unlike anything You've ever heard.
And of course it would be nice to try get
a hint of what they're singing about.
Kex goes:alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.70s
A.E.Bizottsag:alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.80s
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> I almost forgot two essential groups:Kex and the A.E.Bizottsag
Yes, yes. I forgot all about them. I don't have anything of them, and I
think they were floating in magnetizdat at the time.
Gabor Barsai
> Hi Folks:
>
> Strictly on the topic here. I live in the US but have been buying a lot
of
> rock/jazz and art rock from the Hungarian music scene which I found to be
> very interesting. Just as Italy, France, Spain, and Germany have
excellent
> music in the Europe, I was very surprised (pleasantly) to find some of the
> following Hungarian bands/performers in Hungary to be excellent:
You may also want to try Prognozis (early-mid 90s), Illyes and Koncz
Zsuzsa (these go back to the 60s). Still good stuff, though, especially
the Koncz rendition of "Szondi ket aprodja".
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Thanks for that tip also Gabor, I'll put a search agent on it.
I know you didn't intend your message for me, but thanks just the same.
zsolt
name KB first, which was an obvious reference to the C party
(kozponti bizottsag).Under pressure they had to change it though.
They changed it to AE(einstein?)
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> I'm sure they were.Someone told me that they started using the
> name KB first, which was an obvious reference to the C party
> (kozponti bizottsag).Under pressure they had to change it though.
> They changed it to AE(einstein?)
Hmm. Nice speculation. I can't surmise better. :-)
Zsolt
Regards,
Zsolt
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> Zsolt <chest...@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
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> > I have uploaded a neat tune from Mini called Gozhajo.
> > You can find it in:
> > alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.1970s
> >
> > Regards,
> > Zsolt
>
> Gosh darn.... My doggone ISP does not have that newsgroup
> alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.1970s
>
> Any chance of making it available on napster? :-)
>
>
>
Gabor Barsai
: ...
: You may also want to try Prognozis (early-mid 90s), Illyes and Koncz
: Zsuzsa (these go back to the 60s). Still good stuff, though, especially
: the Koncz rendition of "Szondi ket aprodja".
Or if you want something more out of the ordinary, try Vagtazo Halottkemek
(Galloping Coroners).
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AMinera
AMinera
before buying it try Napster. A lot of music
and latest hits by bands are uploaded.
Then if you like the music...buy the CD.
If you check the links to EMI music and the other links found there they will
send you the CD/tape you want to purchase if
its not available in the US. Good luck
Minera
Greg L. Kimnach
t> Hi Folks:
t>
t> Strictly on the topic here. I live in the US but have been buying a lot of
t> rock/jazz and art rock from the Hungarian music scene which I found to be
t> very interesting. Just as Italy, France, Spain, and Germany have excellent
t> music in the Europe, I was very surprised (pleasantly) to find some of the
t> following Hungarian bands/performers in Hungary to be excellent:
wow, i haven't listened to my hungarian albums in years! (just
recently picked up a ne turntable to start the arduous process of
archiving my vinyl to cd.)
being a product of the 70's music scene (yeah, disco sucked; but even
kiss and led z. were influendced by it), so my albums are from that
era. my favorites ere by piramis--at least that's what i think the
band as called. "gyere kozelebb" was my favorite tune.
time to tear open the boxes, find the vinyl, and buy some black lights.....
--
regards,
greg
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