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Tizna Sakranan
Aug 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/28/99
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Just want to know what happen to those long, and hard to pronounce Laotian
names? You know, the kind of name that you can tell that it's deffinitely a
Laotian just by looking at the name a lone.
names? You know, the kind of name that you can tell that it's deffinitely a
Laotian just by looking at the name a lone.
drsouk
Aug 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/28/99
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sabaidi
lao people just have the "prenom" (last name). it is under french colonial
rule that about 49 it was asked to all laotians to have first name (nom de
famille , nam sakun) and last name, before just the member of great families
and princes have it. The last name have for princips: for the boy one or 2
syllabs (kham, bounsong,;;;), for the girl 1, 2 or 3 syllabs (keo, kaison,
darakon...), if there are too much syllabs it was said that the parents were
too haughty. The manner to create names have its regles, it is sometime the
monks that give it to parents, in the old time.
lao people just have the "prenom" (last name). it is under french colonial
rule that about 49 it was asked to all laotians to have first name (nom de
famille , nam sakun) and last name, before just the member of great families
and princes have it. The last name have for princips: for the boy one or 2
syllabs (kham, bounsong,;;;), for the girl 1, 2 or 3 syllabs (keo, kaison,
darakon...), if there are too much syllabs it was said that the parents were
too haughty. The manner to create names have its regles, it is sometime the
monks that give it to parents, in the old time.
drsouk
Aug 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/28/99
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Some years before I was at Vientiane. With a buddy we make the tour of night
clubs. He had a BMW car of which he had not paid for taxes, so it missed him
the label that must be glued on the windshield. So we avoided points of
police control (the police didn't have a car to pursue). A few nervous I
asked him:
"If the police catches us, that we do risk?". He answer me: "Nothing, in
short not big thing, they beat up us then we will pay for a fine!". The
following night, seing that it make me nervous, he brought me in another car
with a label of custom. With some friends we made all small stalls close to
the evening market to drink beer. We were seriously drunk, especially the
driver and the car zigzags. Arrived to a red light, a policeman advances and
stop the car. I thought that with all this alcohol, we will certainly finish
in jail for conduct in state of drunkenness. My buddy descends laboriously,
leaning on the car to not fall. The policeman told him: "big brother, it is
necessary to pay attention, it misses you a signaling light! that will make
you 10.000 kips of fine!". In the car everybody is taken of giggle. A friend
adjusts his dark sunglasses (it was 01 AM), be going to see the policeman
and says him: "I work to the interior department, what is the problem?". The
policeman: "It is nothing sir, I notice respectfully to the big brother that
he has a grilled bulb. You can leave, without paying for fine". When I take
the plane to return in France I told the friend with dark sunglasses: "You
has bluff them well the other day".
He answers me: "I work indeed for the department of the "inside". I am
really officer of police!!!".
clubs. He had a BMW car of which he had not paid for taxes, so it missed him
the label that must be glued on the windshield. So we avoided points of
police control (the police didn't have a car to pursue). A few nervous I
asked him:
"If the police catches us, that we do risk?". He answer me: "Nothing, in
short not big thing, they beat up us then we will pay for a fine!". The
following night, seing that it make me nervous, he brought me in another car
with a label of custom. With some friends we made all small stalls close to
the evening market to drink beer. We were seriously drunk, especially the
driver and the car zigzags. Arrived to a red light, a policeman advances and
stop the car. I thought that with all this alcohol, we will certainly finish
in jail for conduct in state of drunkenness. My buddy descends laboriously,
leaning on the car to not fall. The policeman told him: "big brother, it is
necessary to pay attention, it misses you a signaling light! that will make
you 10.000 kips of fine!". In the car everybody is taken of giggle. A friend
adjusts his dark sunglasses (it was 01 AM), be going to see the policeman
and says him: "I work to the interior department, what is the problem?". The
policeman: "It is nothing sir, I notice respectfully to the big brother that
he has a grilled bulb. You can leave, without paying for fine". When I take
the plane to return in France I told the friend with dark sunglasses: "You
has bluff them well the other day".
He answers me: "I work indeed for the department of the "inside". I am
really officer of police!!!".
BounSong
Aug 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/29/99
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Sabaidee, Dr. Souk:
I didn't know you had such a good sense of humor. Keep it coming.
BounSong
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Mekong Bob
Aug 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/29/99
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Dr Souk,
Is there a directory of common Lao names in use today?
I would find it useful in spelling Lao names.
Please advise.
Is there a directory of common Lao names in use today?
I would find it useful in spelling Lao names.
Please advise.
drsouk
Aug 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/30/99
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sabaidi Bounsong
I post it because that is why I like to return in Laos. I have much
travelling, but Laos is an only country, I said that not because I'm lao,
that people is so gentle. I like to enjoy in the "old manner": friends,
beers, ... The way also to talk others things than politic or ecoconomy. I
always say that I'm for democraty and pluripartism, but if the laotians
inside want another way, I will go to Laos just for fresh beer (and hot
women when I was young).
I post it because that is why I like to return in Laos. I have much
travelling, but Laos is an only country, I said that not because I'm lao,
that people is so gentle. I like to enjoy in the "old manner": friends,
beers, ... The way also to talk others things than politic or ecoconomy. I
always say that I'm for democraty and pluripartism, but if the laotians
inside want another way, I will go to Laos just for fresh beer (and hot
women when I was young).
drsouk
Sep 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/2/99
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sabaidi Mekong Bob,
the composition of names (or forenames) follows the complicated rules that a
lot of laotians lost the notion. In lao culture that come from India, sounds
have a magic power. Rules are like those of the sanskrite grammar. One can
have an idea while studying the Cambodian astrology used in the court . Each
categories, directions, times, correspond to the 33 consonants used to write
the Sanskrit or Pali. As for the human anatomy that understands 32 parts
(+1: marrow). Lao forenames are in infinite number, not like the westerner
forenames that uses those of saints of the calendar. In Laos, the forename
can be a flower, a tree, a mountain, a metal... Names of the last 2 kings of
Laos are composed as those of kings of the Nantchao: a part of the name of
the first finds again in the second: Si savang vong, Savang vathana.
the composition of names (or forenames) follows the complicated rules that a
lot of laotians lost the notion. In lao culture that come from India, sounds
have a magic power. Rules are like those of the sanskrite grammar. One can
have an idea while studying the Cambodian astrology used in the court . Each
categories, directions, times, correspond to the 33 consonants used to write
the Sanskrit or Pali. As for the human anatomy that understands 32 parts
(+1: marrow). Lao forenames are in infinite number, not like the westerner
forenames that uses those of saints of the calendar. In Laos, the forename
can be a flower, a tree, a mountain, a metal... Names of the last 2 kings of
Laos are composed as those of kings of the Nantchao: a part of the name of
the first finds again in the second: Si savang vong, Savang vathana.
drsouk
Sep 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/4/99
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sabaidi Bousong,
In this valley of tears, we laotians we have a lot of humor and we laugh a
lot. It can be there a reason of our survival. I remember in 1993 in
Cambodia during a brief stay with friends working for united nations we must
go to an archaeological site 30 kms from Phnom Penh. We cram in a taxi that
makes part of a convoy of about ten cars and bus escorted by two armed jeeps
with machine-guns. One before and one behind because of bandits. On the
road, a French friend told the driver to stop because he desires to urinate.
The Cambodian driver slows down, immediately the jeep that follows us speeds
along on us. The commander of the escort, a guy with a cap decorated of
stars and with the sunglasses (chiefs of police have all of the dark glasses
in Indochina) arrives to our height and shouts us to advance. The car to
continue, then the French told the driver: I can retain no more, I am going
to urinate here! The driver answers him: don't urinate in my mercedès! If
you can not retain yourself, lower the window and make it the by the door! I
am going to slow down a little! The French begins to relieve with a sigh
when we hear a machine-gun then the commander's voice. This idiot of
Commander saw us slowing down and arrived in speed... and receipt piss on
his face. What explains that he fired to stop the convoy. He says: Choi za
me! (I don't translate it to you) tac-tac-tac! (easy to understand). The
French gives him his watch what calms him a little. He doesn't want anymore
to machine-gun him but only to cut off the.. cause of the offense! All
travelers of the taxi give him their watches. He says that it is good for
this time. Choi za me policeman!
In this valley of tears, we laotians we have a lot of humor and we laugh a
lot. It can be there a reason of our survival. I remember in 1993 in
Cambodia during a brief stay with friends working for united nations we must
go to an archaeological site 30 kms from Phnom Penh. We cram in a taxi that
makes part of a convoy of about ten cars and bus escorted by two armed jeeps
with machine-guns. One before and one behind because of bandits. On the
road, a French friend told the driver to stop because he desires to urinate.
The Cambodian driver slows down, immediately the jeep that follows us speeds
along on us. The commander of the escort, a guy with a cap decorated of
stars and with the sunglasses (chiefs of police have all of the dark glasses
in Indochina) arrives to our height and shouts us to advance. The car to
continue, then the French told the driver: I can retain no more, I am going
to urinate here! The driver answers him: don't urinate in my mercedès! If
you can not retain yourself, lower the window and make it the by the door! I
am going to slow down a little! The French begins to relieve with a sigh
when we hear a machine-gun then the commander's voice. This idiot of
Commander saw us slowing down and arrived in speed... and receipt piss on
his face. What explains that he fired to stop the convoy. He says: Choi za
me! (I don't translate it to you) tac-tac-tac! (easy to understand). The
French gives him his watch what calms him a little. He doesn't want anymore
to machine-gun him but only to cut off the.. cause of the offense! All
travelers of the taxi give him their watches. He says that it is good for
this time. Choi za me policeman!
Hawj Lauj
Sep 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/4/99
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Dr Souk,
That's really hilarious! I've always thought that Asian communist leaders
(from the North Koreans and Chinese, to the Vietnamese and Laotians) were very
similar to dark comic characters taken from eccentric comic books. Almost
everyone of them probably never really udnerstood what the heck Marx and Engel
were babbling about, and yet all jumped on the bandwagon of communism.
The results?: you just described a microcosm of communism existing at the
personal level. But because communism is very dogmatic, such an attitude, such
a way of doing things, permeates every level in, from the lowest to the
highest, in terms of both individuals and organizations.
Sad, yes, but still very darkly hilarious!
Hawj Lauj
Sal16777
Sep 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/5/99
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Hi there all you Lao people out there! I am proud to say that I still have my
Laotian name. I am from Seattle and my name is Onnaravong. I have the
sweetest 2 year old daughter named Savannavong. I prefer Lao names over White
people's name. Because our heritage and ancestor came from Laos. Our blood is
all Lao. My daughter, husband, and I are Lao people. So it is wise to give my
kid Laotian names
Asian Pride Here------------Onnaravong.
Laotian name. I am from Seattle and my name is Onnaravong. I have the
sweetest 2 year old daughter named Savannavong. I prefer Lao names over White
people's name. Because our heritage and ancestor came from Laos. Our blood is
all Lao. My daughter, husband, and I are Lao people. So it is wise to give my
kid Laotian names
Asian Pride Here------------Onnaravong.
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